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I've looked at everything out there (in the US)... Diamond, Touch Pro, upcoming Omnia (at Verizon), even thought about Xperia... Nothing comes close to HD, in my mind. But buying it without network discounts and giving up 3G is crazy too.
I am completely bummed out about it. HTC, damn you! Why hasn't someone else stepped up to make phone like this that works in the US. High-res screen, high-res camera, thin, with screen of at least 3.5"? Ya know, so you can actually thumb-type without the hardware keyboard? Even if you have fingers that are bigger than a 7-year-old's? Like a normal person...
All this can make someone go old-school BlackBerry... and they don't have a cure for that...
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can't tell you how many times i've done the same, lol.
meanvulcan said:
I've looked at everything out there (in the US)... Diamond, Touch Pro, upcoming Omnia (at Verizon), even thought about Xperia... Nothing comes close to HD, in my mind. But buying it without network discounts and giving up 3G is crazy too.
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for you, giving up network discounts and 3G is crazy. for me, those 2 criteria are low on my list. i view it more as a tradeoff/investment to get what i want (not what i need, lol). i used 1 subsidized device in that past 4 years; everything else was/is unsubsidized. my experience suggests that unlocked/unsubsidized devices sale faster and at higher prices. anyway, i resale my phones via ebay and use the proceeds to fund some or all of the cost of my next device. i must admit that i've been fortunate enough to also fund my tech habit via dividends from sporting "investments". we all have our addictions, vices, etc. unfortunately, the phone addiction can be an expensive one.
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I am completely bummed out about it. HTC, damn you! Why hasn't someone else stepped up to make phone like this that works in the US. High-res screen, high-res camera, thin, with screen of at least 3.5"?
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i agree with you 100%! my suspicions are that contractual agreements between htc and at&t and at&t and "the fruit company" have something to do with the HD not coming to the US. at&t is the only GSM carrier with an extended 3G footprint and bringing the HD to at&t would directly compete against the fruity phone. the fruit company wouldn't like that, lol. now that still doesn't explain why the HD is missing the us 3G bands...this could be due to technical reasons.
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Ya know, so you can actually thumb-type without the hardware keyboard? Even if you have fingers that are bigger than a 7-year-old's? Like a normal person....
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with the improved sensitivity of the HD, one-handed or two-handed thumb typing is better than i expected. there's always room for improvement, but it works very well for me.
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All this can make someone go old-school BlackBerry... and they don't have a cure for that...
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tried the crackberry drug once and had major withdrawal issues, lol. for me, it's not a viable substitute.
Feeding the addiction, eh? I'd actually live without 3G -- I keep my Kaiser on Edge most of the time anyway, if only it was cheaper. I am just surprised this is the only phone either than the fruity company's youPhone that has a touchscreen >= 3.5" (HTC Universal excluded). Bastardos... the lot of'em.
Answer me this...
I couldn't hold out anymore and I ordered one from the Uk. Now everyday I'm thinking of sekking it for a AT&T Fuze to get 3G back, but this is what I don't get. I had a Polaris, which as far as I know never was released on a carrier here; yet it still ran US 3G. WHY DON"T THEY DO THAT WITH THIS THING!!?
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I couldn't hold out anymore and I ordered one from the Uk. Now everyday I'm thinking of sekking it for a AT&T Fuze to get 3G back, but this is what I don't get. I had a Polaris, which as far as I know never was released on a carrier here; yet it still ran US 3G. WHY DON"T THEY DO THAT WITH THIS THING!!?
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so, if you're selling to get 3G, you must be using 3G extensively everyday? true? if yes, and i was in your shoes, i would have passed on the HD. regarding the 3G bands, well, marketing decisions by someone led them to exclude the 3G bands on the HD. the market has changed (for whatever reaason) since the Polaris was relased. the first evidence of that was the release of the Diamond without 3G. we're just small pawns in the game...
3G remorse
Yes, I lived in Orlando and now NY where both had great 3G almost all times. I am constantly checking the internet on pricing items and looking at emails. I hate to admit this too, but the Iphone 3G was pretty functional for me. I just hate Mac everything so i got rid of it. I just love the screen on the HD though! I think I'm buying a Polaris tomorrow.
Man, if i could get this phone, i could care less about 3G lol. I am with sprint, but am willing to ORDER THIS PHONE FROM ACROSS THE POND, have it shipped over here and getting an At&t plan or something and using the sim card in this phone.....just to have this phone. Knowing me......i will probably buy this phone, a good friend of mine ordered it and had it shipped to him the other day. I am going to visit him for the holidays and will finally FINALLY get some hands on with this bad A** phone.
HD fever
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Man, if i could get this phone, i could care less about 3G lol. I am with sprint, but am willing to ORDER THIS PHONE FROM ACROSS THE POND, have it shipped over here and getting an At&t plan or something and using the sim card in this phone.....just to have this phone. Knowing me......i will probably buy this phone, a good friend of mine ordered it and had it shipped to him the other day. I am going to visit him for the holidays and will finally FINALLY get some hands on with this bad A** phone.
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I went through the exact thoughts after getting my omnia. I lacked the willpower to hold off for the HD. After having having the omnia two weeks I broke the piggy(again) to get the HD.
I'm with US t-mo, limiting my 3G options to the G1, which does does not impress. I'm satisfied with 2G and WiFi.
Ultimately, I'm extremely happy with the beautiful screen and build quality.
By the way, anyone want to buy a slightly used omnia....CHEAP!
ME TOO lol. Im with sprint right now and would give anything to get my hands on this phone. So you have t-mobile? I thought this phone could only run on At&T? Am i missing something, i live in right behind a t-mobile store, what did you do to get your plan onto the HD and get it running? PM ME IF NEED BE
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I went through the exact thoughts after getting my omnia. I lacked the willpower to hold off for the HD. After having having the omnia two weeks I broke the piggy(again) to get the HD.
I'm with US t-mo, limiting my 3G options to the G1, which does does not impress. I'm satisfied with 2G and WiFi.
Ultimately, I'm extremely happy with the beautiful screen and build quality.
By the way, anyone want to buy a slightly used omnia....CHEAP!
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ME TOO lol. Im with sprint right now and would give anything to get my hands on this phone. So you have t-mobile? I thought this phone could only run on At&T? Am i missing something, i live in right behind a t-mobile store, what did you do to get your plan onto the HD and get it running? PM ME IF NEED BE
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It's a GSM phone, so if it's not locked it will work on any GSM network -- that's AT&T and T-mo in the US.
Ok, so lets say that you can get this phone unlocked here in the U.S. And sign up with T-mobile with one of their plans, could you just switch out the sim card from the phone you get into this phone? Im really interested in getting this phone and am willing to open up a contract with either T-MOBILE or At&t. Im not a big talker but am a big texter. I was looking into the basic myfaves plan but was wondering if you could use the pay-as-you-go plans with this phone also. Any one have any suggestions?
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Ok, so lets say that you can get this phone unlocked here in the U.S. And sign up with T-mobile with one of their plans, could you just switch out the sim card from the phone you get into this phone? Im really interested in getting this phone and am willing to open up a contract with either T-MOBILE or At&t. Im not a big talker but am a big texter. I was looking into the basic myfaves plan but was wondering if you could use the pay-as-you-go plans with this phone also. Any one have any suggestions?
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it's already unlocked if you purchase from someone like Clove, Expansys. and yes, all you have to do is pop in your SIM card and you're good to go. i got mine from Clove Technologies and it's working great on at&t. it will even configure your internet settings...
you read my mind cortez I was going to order it from them too. im thinking about opening a plan with t-mobile since they have cheaper plans an I think I can narrow down to 5 people to put on my faves. any suggestions man ever since I got my hands on this phone the other day which it was my friends...all I can do is think about how to get it to work in the u.s.
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you read my mind cortez I was going to order it from them too. im thinking about opening a plan with t-mobile since they have cheaper plans ..all I can do is think about how to get it to work in the u.s.
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I've been using unlocked ppc's with tmob for about 2years...hard to beat the price plans, Edge works great, and Gms works anywhere in the world!
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In your opinion, which one do you think will come to the HD2 and if you had to choose, which one would you get?
first will come people who should have gotten an iPhone asking when a dumbed down os will be available. giventhe choice, i stay with the ROM that came with the phone, that'swhy i got it in the first place
What I wish would come first is the time when people looking for Android on an HD2 realize that they should just suck it up and get an EVO. But, that's probably not going to happen any time soon.
Seriously, though, I think the WP7 port will come before Android.
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With the extraordinary chefs of XDA my bet would be on WM7 getting to the HD2 first.
My 2 sense....
fhaines
Well seeing as a basically fully working WP7 was already ported and working on the HD2 I would say that one first.
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first will come people who should have gotten an iPhone asking when a dumbed down os will be available. giventhe choice, i stay with the ROM that came with the phone, that'swhy i got it in the first place
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Who pissed in this guy coffee lol
vplaza96 said:
What I wish would come first is the time when people looking for Android on an HD2 realize that they should just suck it up and get an EVO. But, that's probably not going to happen any time soon.
Seriously, though, I think the WP7 port will come before Android.
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Sprint? Like really, over T-mobile? LMAO! I still with the HD2.
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Sprint? Like really, over T-mobile? LMAO! I still with the HD2.
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Like really. Like, I switched to T-Mo from AT&T to get the HD2. <turn off 'like'>
Despite the much sparser network coverage, I sucked it up and made the switch because T-Mo had the phone I wanted. Don't be married to a carrier since they don't give a rat's you-know-what about you as a customer.
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Who pissed in this guy coffee lol
Sprint? Like really, over T-mobile? LMAO! I still with the HD2.
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Sprint's probably got better coverage than T-Mobile. I'm starting to regret switching over to T-Mobile from AT&T for the HD2. I should have spent the $800 to get the australian HD2 and stayed on AT&T. Now I've got a 2 year contract with T-Mobile.
Back on topic... I think WP7 will probably have a port first. I'd like to play around with both WP7 and Android on my phone, but I'll keep WM6.5 as my main OS. That's what I bought the phone for. It'll be awhile, if ever, until there's a stable port of either of them, anyways.
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Sprint's probably got better coverage than T-Mobile. I'm starting to regret switching over to T-Mobile from AT&T for the HD2. I should have spent the $800 to get the australian HD2 and stayed on AT&T. Now I've got a 2 year contract with T-Mobile.
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Sorry to hear that. Wondering why you didn't go with getting the HD2 from T-Mo without a contract. In the long run, it's cheaper and you aren't locked in. You didn't have to pay for the phone in full up front, either.
I did this, bought the phone for $449 and their Even More Plus with Text + Web. No 2 year contract and over the two years, I save almost $240 over getting the subsidized phone and a more expensive contract. If I had the need to switch to someone else, I'll sell the phone and move on.
Are you people serious? You should NEVER switch to a cell phone company for a freaking phone. Look at all the stupid idiotic iphone customers who switched to at&t to get one. How many of them hate at&t because of it. I will be honest, I have sold for S,V,A and now T, and quite honestly it really irritates me to see people treat the industry as a product industry. IT IS A SERVICE INDUSTRY PEOPLE! The products are just a secondary thought, or at least they should be. At&t really ruined it with that craptasatic iphone. I'm not saying it is a horrible phone, but it is not, nor is any phone worth switching to a company that you don't get service with or who has horrible customer service. I would like to see android ported over from the new Sprint phone that is being released so I can duel boot and get the best of both worlds, but F#[email protected] Sprint. I wouldn't have that companies service again if they paid me to.
I'm guessing WP7 will be the 1st port. I'd love to have Android b4 WP7 hits. But, its just wishful thinking I guess.
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Are you people serious? You should NEVER switch to a cell phone company for a freaking phone. Look at all the stupid idiotic iphone customers who switched to at&t to get one. How many of them hate at&t because of it. I will be honest, I have sold for S,V,A and now T, and quite honestly it really irritates me to see people treat the industry as a product industry. IT IS A SERVICE INDUSTRY PEOPLE! The products are just a secondary thought, or at least they should be. At&t really ruined it with that craptasatic iphone. I'm not saying it is a horrible phone, but it is not, nor is any phone worth switching to a company that you don't get service with or who has horrible customer service. I would like to see android ported over from the new Sprint phone that is being released so I can duel boot and get the best of both worlds, but F#[email protected] Sprint. I wouldn't have that companies service again if they paid me to.
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Sure, it's a service industry. But one that happens to have products that use the service. Until all of them make the same devices available across the board, the reality is some will have devices that others don't. And Sprint may be horrible to you, but there are plenty of users who would swear by it and say the same about T-Mo, AT&T, etc.
BTW, it's just a phone.
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Sorry to hear that. Wondering why you didn't go with getting the HD2 from T-Mo without a contract.
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kemp509 said:
Are you people serious? You should NEVER switch to a cell phone company for a freaking phone. Look at all the stupid idiotic iphone customers who switched to at&t to get one. How many of them hate at&t because of it. I will be honest, I have sold for S,V,A and now T, and quite honestly it really irritates me to see people treat the industry as a product industry. IT IS A SERVICE INDUSTRY PEOPLE! The products are just a secondary thought, or at least they should be. At&t really ruined it with that craptasatic iphone. I'm not saying it is a horrible phone, but it is not, nor is any phone worth switching to a company that you don't get service with or who has horrible customer service. I would like to see android ported over from the new Sprint phone that is being released so I can duel boot and get the best of both worlds, but F#[email protected] Sprint. I wouldn't have that companies service again if they paid me to.
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Nah, it's a product industry. If it were a service industry, everyone would be 4G and rising by now.
Yeah, it should be service-oriented, but everyone knows that these companies make money off their handsets, not their all-in-one plans.
Look at AT&T. They seriously offer a new product now (for only $99!) that connects to your home internet service and "boosts" the cellular signal.
Read that last one again. Yeah, they are offering you a new product because they know their signals suck indoors. And that product uses bandwith on your own internet connection. And they are charging you for it. So, AT&T knows they suck and instead of building their infrastructure, they are actually selling their "solution" to the very people who are already paying exhorbiant prices for crappy service.
Back on topic: WP7 will get ported first, but it won't be a full port. Android is coming, but it has a guaranteed 1 year wait and another 6 months for the bugs to be worked out.
Personally, I can't wait for Android. I ran it on my Kaiser, then my TouchPro2. It wasn't a full-time OS for me, but the app store was too juicy to pass up
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Like really. Like, I switched to T-Mo from AT&T to get the HD2. <turn off 'like'>
Despite the much sparser network coverage, I sucked it up and made the switch because T-Mo had the phone I wanted. Don't be married to a carrier since they don't give a rat's you-know-what about you as a customer.
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Sprint is terrible in my area compare to T-mobile, ontop of that, I've been with T-mobile for 7 years, I'm not gonna switch to a carrier for a phone. I have a jailbroken iPhone... on T-mobile .
I'm just waiting for the day when I can triple boot WM6.5, WP7, and Android. Maybe Quad boot an iPhone OS
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I'm just waiting for the day when I can triple boot WM6.5, WP7, and Android. Maybe Quad boot an iPhone OS
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We can only dream.
Just buy what you want in the first place, problem solved.
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Just buy what you want in the first place, problem solved.
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We would still be trying to improve it.
Well, I did it. I got the HTC Incredible on Thursday. I cannot lie, thing this is fast. I will miss my hardware keyboard, but other than that i must say it is amazing.
What did it for me was I was finally able to get a sense build of android 2.1 working on the TP2. I was sold after that, looked at the incredible, specs, and gave it a shot, so far i am VERY HAPPY. The camera on this thing is amazing... Sorry if this was a rant, im not trying to put down the TP2 in anyway as the TP2 was an awesome phone for me for about 6 months lol.
Here is a link to my video on youtube showing it off a little bit - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP-ZPF3sY8w
The screen doesn't play well with my webcam...
I made the same move, and I couldn't be happier. I'm even getting used to the on-screen keyboard.
If you still have your TP2, go ahead and take it's battery and drop that in the Incredible. The TP2 has the same output but a slightly higher capacity.
I would but I think the person who buys my phone off of eBay will wonder whats up with the bright red battery lol. I must say though, i've gotten great battery life so far with this phone.
I suppose you're right - I'm keeping my TP2 around as a back just in case, particularly after seeing current prices for used models on eBay (too low to bother).
average price of a sold unlocked tp2 is about $280... not bad, especially when i got it for $199...
Yep, made the switch too. Can't decide on the ebay route. My only issues so far are battery life, easily fixable, plan on a high cap battery, and no sim card. Good bye Global
I made the switch from a Imagio and never looking back!
I'm getting differing feedback on the Incredible. Is this truly a global phone? In other words, can I use it while traveling to Europe and Asia? Not that I am planning to but I want to be able to. I assume this phone is only available for Verizon.
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I'm getting differing feedback on the Incredible. Is this truly a global phone? In other words, can I use it while traveling to Europe and Asia? Not that I am planning to but I want to be able to. I assume this phone is only available for Verizon.
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Not a true global phone. It does not support GSM bands, no sim card. Im not 100% sure where it will work overseas though. Yes right now only Verizon has this phone I believe.
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Made the move from ATT Tilt 2, jumping carriers because I just had to have this phone. I'm slightly put off by the battery life, signal issues (which seems to be present in your youtube video too), and the lack of simultaneous voice and data.
Other than those things.. I love it.
What about voice dial compared to the TP2?
On my TP1, once activated, voice dial would tell me what it thought I said and then give me a chance to try again, all with me not pushing any more buttons. AFAIK, the incredible doesn't do that, and that makes me a sad panda
yeah it seems to be an issue, but i still get good reception, even if it is showing nothing.
Im making the switch from my Imagio to the Incredible
Can't wait till it comes in!
Should get here Wednesday or Thursday!
Backup for travel
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I suppose you're right - I'm keeping my TP2 around as a back just in case, particularly after seeing current prices for used models on eBay (too low to bother).
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You can also keep it for when you travel outside of the US for GSM capability (make sure it's unlocked before you leave).
This seems to be the exact thread I am looking for
I played with an Incredible at the store but the way they had the lock device on the phone part of the keyboard was not usable. It also did not have any vibration feedback when you press a key.
I currently have a Touch Pro that is used email both personal and work via Exchange as well as Text messaging for work outages. This leads me to use the hardware keyboard alot, and I have grown to love the dedicated number area on the TP.
For the users who have gone from a hardware keyboard to the Incredible, how was the transition? Is it manageable for longer emails? How is the Exchange support or is it worth looking at Touchdown to manage that? Would it be better just to go for the Moto Droid with it's hardware keyboard for longer communications?
Where did you get the nexus one live wallpaper?
Tryout xdandroid on your TP2 first
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How is the Exchange support or is it worth looking at Touchdown to manage that?
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calash, I was following the xdandroid development closely so it was a good test to adjust to the switchover of android before making the jump. Also it's a safe way to test it out (boots android off SD card). Exchange and Gmail sync worked well (using "As email arrives") pulling in all my contacts and OS integration was nice between contacts/emails/google maps/etc.
Check out the project: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627997
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Where did you get the nexus one live wallpaper?
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it's in the market. search "nexusmod"
Saying that GSM is the only coverage you'll get outside of the USA is not really true. There are CDMA providers in most regions. The real trick is what kind of coverage that will be. There are differing frequencies as well as data connections.
I have had CDMA coverage in all the areas I have traveled to. I don't worry about data, because I turn off all data features on my phone when outside the USA. Don't need any nasty surprises on the charges front.
Here's info for CDMA availability world wide:
http://www.cdg.org/worldwide/index.asp
I love my hd2, I just got it. But, I'm using it on ATT and currently am seeking to unlocking it. I'm thinking about switching to Nexus one because of it's ATT 3G and wont need to be unlocked. I have been without phone use for about 3 weeks. I want an easier to open battery door, but that's about it. I really don't want to have to mail my HD2 back and wait for a refund, then buy a N1 and have to wait.... I just really need help, should I switch or not? I barely ever make calls on my phones, I usually text and don't have Data but was planning on adding it on when I got the HD2. Will Edge Data speeds be really bad? I'm just so confused right now, I was hoping I could trade my HD2 for a N1 to make it quick and easy so if I didn't like it I could switch back but NOBODY with a N1 wants a HD2. It's stressing me out because I need a phone to use ASAP, but don't want to make the wrong decision and be stuck with a phone I hate for possibly years since I'm not signing another contract with ATT, but don't plan on switching to another carrier.
the N1 has ATT 3G bands
EDIT: wow, I guess it does. How the hell did I miss that they released an AT&T/Rogers version of the N1??
The difference in EDGE vs 3G is quite substantial. Nowadays I would consider EDGE data connectivity speeds almost useless. So for you, I would recommend a native 3G device over an unlocked device that only connects via EDGE. ( Not that I am recommending the N1 over the Hd2 )
I understand the inconvenience you state about having to return your phone online and to be without a phone in the meantime. Have you considered selling your HD2 locally via Craigslist? Then use the $$ towards the Nexus!
Or better yet, since you're out-of-contract you should just keep the HD2, since you love it so much anyways, and switch to a no Contract Tmo plan with Data and save some $$ !
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I love my hd2, I just got it. But, I'm using it on ATT and currently am seeking to unlocking it. I'm thinking about switching to Nexus one because of it's ATT 3G and wont need to be unlocked. I have been without phone use for about 3 weeks. I want an easier to open battery door, but that's about it. I really don't want to have to mail my HD2 back and wait for a refund, then buy a N1 and have to wait.... I just really need help, should I switch or not? I barely ever make calls on my phones, I usually text and don't have Data but was planning on adding it on when I got the HD2. Will Edge Data speeds be really bad? I'm just so confused right now, I was hoping I could trade my HD2 for a N1 to make it quick and easy so if I didn't like it I could switch back but NOBODY with a N1 wants a HD2. It's stressing me out because I need a phone to use ASAP, but don't want to make the wrong decision and be stuck with a phone I hate for possibly years since I'm not signing another contract with ATT, but don't plan on switching to another carrier.
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So you have me a bit confused. Do you have a T-mobile HTC HD2? & why would keeping this bind you into a contract with AT&T?
If you are using AT&T and worried about data speeds I'd say to get a phone that works with AT&T 3G, You do know that AT&T will be releasing iPhone 4 this month? ( I know I am probably going to get bashed for this) This phone will be the biggest bang for your buck if your looking into touch screen, 3G speeds, & smartphones. I'd say return your HD2 wait for your refund and buy a simple phone til the iPhone 4 comes out.
But that is just me. I am just fine with my HD2 but I am on T-mobile so I get 3G speeds already.
Edit: okay I just reread your post so please disregaurd my above statement, I thought you were signing another contract with AT&T
But regaurding your N1 if you are big on data speeds and the N1 can both support both 3G networks for AT&T & T-Mobile then i'd almost say its worth it and do what I said above and get a cheap phone off of like craigslist to hold you down til then.
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So you have me a bit confused. Do you have a T-mobile HTC HD2? & why would keeping this bind you into a contract with AT&T?
If you are using AT&T and worried about data speeds I'd say to get a phone that works with AT&T 3G, You do know that AT&T will be releasing iPhone 4 this month? ( I know I am probably going to get bashed for this) This phone will be the biggest bang for your buck if your looking into touch screen, 3G speeds, & smartphones. I'd say return your HD2 wait for your refund and buy a simple phone til the iPhone 4 comes out.
But that is just me. I am just fine with my HD2 but I am on T-mobile so I get 3G speeds already.
Edit: okay I just reread your post so please disregaurd my above statement, I thought you were signing another contract with AT&T
But regaurding your N1 if you are big on data speeds and the N1 can both support both 3G networks for AT&T & T-Mobile then i'd almost say its worth it and do what I said above and get a cheap phone off of like craigslist to hold you down til then.
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AT&T's data sucks... Everyone that I know using an Iphone says the data, interenet, etc is slow as hell. Also At&t just announced they are doing away with their unlimited data plan... How nice of them...
If your not getting 3g speeds HD2 its pretty useless.
Yea, I heard about att's new "courtesy" for data. I'd like to switch to T-Mobile but my contract doesn't end till sometime around April of 2011. Craigslist isn't an option because I'd need to get the same ammount I paid for it and I'm not sure if I can take it back anymore. I'm never using eBay again either.... TOO MANY FEES, I'd end up losing $50 if I got $400 for it. Nobody on here is looking for an HD2 either.... I love the phone but if Edge is as bad as i'm hearing I don't think I can go through with this.
Do yourself a favor and throw that hunk of crap in the garbage and get the new iphone on the 24th, i have had 4 HD2's and all were huge piles of ****, you cant even text message on the thing unless you type one letter per 20seconds LOL i actually threw my last one at the wall and smashed it cause it is just a **** phone with good parts that HTC obviously couldnt sput together to make it run smooth, Even the scrolling is choppy as ****, anyways sorry im so angry but these phones are ****!!!! Im even gonna switch to ATT if i have to from tmobile on the 24th to get the iphone 4 if i have to, but hopefully verizon will have it as well. GL buddy
Thanks... Their was an offical statement made by Apple that their would be no CDMA iPhone anytime soon.
who knows with apple, they might throw out a bone, it would be sick if they offered it through Tmobile.
yeah i'm trying to sell my HD2 too.
might have to resort to ebay...
*sigh*
I've heard you can get very fast edge speeds with at&t... around 700-800kbps. Theres a thread about it somewhere in the original Leo General section.... thats as fast as I'm getting with T-Mobile 3G. I'd prefer the HD2 over a N1. I would definitely not go with the iphone. But thats just me. I prefer WinMo. I'm not a fan of locked down OS's like apples. I like the versatility and functionality of winmo. My HD2 has been one of the most stable phones I've owned.... and what other phone can you play any playstation game at full speed?
ATT has the best 3G for a GSM carrier, I live in South Florida so I suppose if your correct about fast EDGE speeds than I may take a second look about that. I just need to unlock it first...
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who knows with apple, they might throw out a bone, it would be sick if they offered it through Tmobile.
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Haven't you heard? It's called 'Jailbreaking and Unlocking.'
yup i know but they might be able to stop that with the new Iphone but who knows, if there is a jailbreak and unlock i will just cancel ATT after i get it and switch back to Tmobile and keep the Iphone. I have a way of not having to pay the cancel fee so its all good.
PurpleLlamaLover said:
ATT has the best 3G for a GSM carrier, I live in South Florida so I suppose if your correct about fast EDGE speeds than I may take a second look about that. I just need to unlock it first...
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It all depends on the coverage of your wireless carrier.
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Data_Rates_for_GSM_Evolution
I meant in my area, ATT is fastest.
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Do yourself a favor and throw that hunk of crap in the garbage and get the new iphone on the 24th, i have had 4 HD2's and all were huge piles of ****, you cant even text message on the thing unless you type one letter per 20seconds LOL i actually threw my last one at the wall and smashed it cause it is just a **** phone with good parts that HTC obviously couldnt sput together to make it run smooth, Even the scrolling is choppy as ****, anyways sorry im so angry but these phones are ****!!!! Im even gonna switch to ATT if i have to from tmobile on the 24th to get the iphone 4 if i have to, but hopefully verizon will have it as well. GL buddy
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Im with you on this starkall. Im not going to get an iPhone but really cannot stand this damn HD2 anymore. Coming from a G1 which has flawless SMS and MMS and going to this where you have to repeat stupid steps just to type a message is killing me...I love the display, like winmo, but just cant live with this sms and cracking phone calls.
According to recent posts in the LEO non-tmo section HTC doesnt feel like its their problem. So probably no fix for it unless its replaced completely or Win 7 is ported soon.
I have an HTC incredible for my work phone and everytime i pick that back up for emailing, sms or just straight web browsing im more disappointed with the HD2..Im not one of those " F^#K WinMo, android rules" people. I actually haven't used the winmo os since back on my TMO dash. I really like it and see huge potential with some of these devs...But basic sms..come on meow.
yeah Ima pick up a nexus one not an iPhone.
I'm using an HD2 on AT&T right now. EDGE isn't bad on it; it's definitely manageable for most websites. Only downside is that YouTube is pretty much a no go.
Im thinking of getting the drod x on july 19th. My contract with tmobile expires on july fourth so ill probably sell the nexus for it. What do you guys think? Is it a major upgrade? It has 4.3 inch screen and seems better than the evo.
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Im thinking of getting the drod x on july 19th. My contract with tmobile expires on july fourth so ill probably sell the nexus for it. What do you guys think? Is it a major upgrade? It has 4.3 inch screen and seems better than the evo.
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I say go for it. Don't see why not.. your contract expires.. seems pretty perfect.
Phone looks great but think that CDMA is outdated. No data and voice at the same time. Useless phone if you travel to Europe....
no voice+data= no sale
having people who call getting dumped to voicemail because I'm using data is not cool
besides I'm personally not ready to go back to a carrier device
Old MuckenMire said:
no voice+data= no sale
having people who call getting dumped to voicemail because I'm using data is not cool
besides I'm personally not ready to go back to a carrier device
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If your browsing the web and someone calls, they get forwarded to voicemail?!
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If your browsing the web and someone calls, they get forwarded to voicemail?!
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Ofcourse not. He just meant that you can't check movie times or what not while you're on a call. I guess in theory it's nice to do both but to be fair I never have found myself in a situation where I am so bored with someones phone conversation that I just start surfing the web mid-call. Ok....maybe once.
The real CDMA deal breaker for me is traveling abroad.
I also hate Moto since they locked the bootloader of the Milestone.
I would wait and see how the rooting/custom rom effort comes along.
The droid has great community, just make sure Moto doesn't follow up on their bad habbits!
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Ofcourse not. He just meant that you can't check movie times or what not while you're on a call. I guess in theory it's nice to do both but to be fair I never have found myself in a situation where I am so bored with someones phone conversation that I just start surfing the web mid-call. Ok....maybe once.
The real CDMA deal breaker for me is traveling abroad.
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What about tethering?I believe this might be what he was referring to...
A HSDPA version of the Droid X would be nice, like the Milestone, but ONLY if they leave the boot loader unlockable this time. CDMA is effectively dead in Canada now with only legacy contracts still using the old networks.
It seems like Motorola uses good components in their phones and their build quality is very good, but I don't care for their tacked on UI and would only get the phone if I knew it was possible to load something like CyanogenMod on it. The Nexus One has spoiled me.
I'm constantly intrigued by the design of the Droid and now the Droid X and Droid 2, but I just can't stomach a contract and the outrageous Verizon plans. I'll stick with my Nexus and cheap T-mo data for now.
If your browsing the web and someone calls, they get forwarded to voicemail?!
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Ofcourse not. He just meant that you can't check movie times or what not while you're on a call. I guess in theory it's nice to do both but to be fair I never have found myself in a situation where I am so bored with someones phone conversation that I just start surfing the web mid-call. Ok....maybe once.
The real CDMA deal breaker for me is traveling abroad.
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I do it. All the time. At least once a day.
And also I'm with ya on the whole cdma bull****. Its such an outdated technology. And I hate Verizon. And I hate carrier devices. I hate carrier branding.
That's why I love the nexus one and att
That's why ill buy the nexus two. And I know I mentioned that I'm gonna buy iPhone 4 but I've been thinking. Apple can go screw its self. nexus pwns it.
More interesting question is anybody thinking about getting the Galaxy S?
Technically, GSM 3G is a flavor of CDMA...just allows for simultaneous voice and data because of the way it's configured. However, GSM networks can still be configured to only allow voice or data at once, they just happen to have been set up originally to allow them both. The ironic part of it is just that nobody knew when they set up the network that it would be this way and it would end up being such a huge deal - lucky break for AT&T.
If root is easy it will surely boost sales (I hope manufacturers understand this).
Very good specs, but lets wait for an actual device in-depth review
the droid X can plan .AVI FILES!!!!!! also comes with a multitouch keyboard
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/exclusive-motorola-droid-x-preview/
Meh, I'll pass.
I think it's rather fugly.
Nexus
It's time for Nexus 2!
Sorry, you can keep the tablet phones...
Little too big for my daily use. And we need more detailed specs & benchmarks for validation.
i think these devices are way too big. Ive played with the Evo and this is bigger?! I thought the Evo was big and clunky. Maybe something just a lil bit bigger than my N1 would be my limit. I think Android has this thing where they think bigger is better. I dont wanna hold that thing in my pocket? These things are ganna be tablets size soon
So, I am getting bored with my iphone 4... and feel like tinkering again. I loved my nexus one and these forums.... now I am thinking about getting a desire hd (my biggest concern is, it will NOT run on 3g on my network - rogers).
I am hoping and assuming I can get by with wifi and 2g.... if that phone is that good and fun.....
Will 2.3 get on this device... as soon as these guys get their hands on it?
How is the battery life? Is it easy to change the battery (buy spares etc)
Any input would be appreciated. thx
**updating this a bit: So, I thought this would at least work on 3g with telus new network..... if that is not the case, I might just sell the phone.... even though I ordered the otterbox and higher capacity battery! My question is, am I better off leaving and selling the phone as is mint and untouched (sim free phone). Or would the value be better rooted? thx again
I live in the states and I don't even notice it missing 3G. I'm mostly on wi-fi, and when I'm not, 2G is enough to not care it's not 3G. The phone is worth it for me. I wouldn't trade it for any other phone right now, not even MyTouch 4G which I could have, but the DHD is to awesome. I have it now just over a week, and the battery lasts a solid day and a half, and it keeps getting better each charge. I could probably get two days if I needed to. FroYo 2.2 is all I need, so I'm not concerned when it will get GB, but I assume soon after it's release, seeing how this is a flagship phone. I say get it, and you won't regret it.
Oh, and as far as changing the battery, it's not that hard once you get the hang of how the cover comes off and on. Same with the sim/antenna cover, and if you do happen to break them, HTC already has them on their site, so you can buy more if you need to. Once you remove the battery cover the battery actually just falls out. It's held in by the cover, so once you remove it, be careful not to drop the battery out without having your hand there to catch it.
thx, yea... I kind of just want to try the beast, lol.... just to be stupid, what is dhd? I have not researched the phone yet... I just see one in canada on ebay... ends in 9 hours, thinking about bidding on it..... I just like trying new phones, if you have any more input, it is much appreciated
thx
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thx, yea... I kind of just want to try the beast, lol.... just to be stupid, what is dhd? I have not researched the phone yet... I just see one in canada on ebay... ends in 9 hours, thinking about bidding on it..... I just like trying new phones, if you have any more input, it is much appreciated
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DHD = Desire HD, I will be mad if you get the DHD before me. (just kidding haha)
Don't worry too much about 2.3, there will probably be a way on here (xda) for you to flash to it when it comes out anyway.
Won the auction, I should have it by wed at the latest
He claimed there was a 3g fix out there somewhere, but that makes no sense... if it does not use the band....
but he has a utube video out there, using the htc telus hero on rogers w/3g.... the hero and the desire use the same bands right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWEAfJ_DxZc
up for this youtube video, if these phones use the same band/freq.... does that mean I can make it work on rogers via 3g?
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up for this youtube video, if these phones use the same band/freq.... does that mean I can make it work on rogers via 3g?
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Nope you can't, that's the Hero he got from Telus which have the North American band ...it's nothing special. However, the Desire HD have the Global frequency, 900, 2100.
Rogers, bell, telus are using 850, 1900
that sucks, 2g blows..... I mean, really... if I am going to focus on wifi, I won't even need a data plan.... unless they release a new desire hd for telus
but I do love my rogers retention plan
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So, I thought this would at least work on 3g with telus new network..... if that is not the case, I might just sell the phone.... even though I ordered the otterbox and higher capacity battery! My question is, am I better off leaving and selling the phone as is mint and untouched (sim free phone). Or would the value be better rooted? thx again
I wonder if 3g matter that much though ... but to answer your question, I would say leave it untouched.
well, I do use a fair amount of data via 3g... approx 300 mb a month.... 2g is almost unusable in comparison.... I will get it and play with it and see how I like it.... but without 3g, makes me sad, lol
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Desire HD Coming
OMG. I just ordered my DHD today so hopefully i should get it in about a week's time. No more uTube watching for me when you've got the real thing to play with.
got mine today and put the otterbox on it! I highly recommend the case....
however, I could not get my rogers "2g" to work.... I hope it is just me being new to android, I know 2g is garbage.... but atleast it would still work for email etc.... I was told it would work on this phone?
Any ideas
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You need to set the right APN settings. You can call rogers technical support for that. Tell them you have an Android phone, they should be able to walkthrough the steps with you. Or you can google it too.
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You need to set the right APN settings. You can call rogers technical support for that. Tell them you have an Android phone, they should be able to walkthrough the steps with you. Or you can google it too.
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figured as much, will call them tomorrow. thx
Phone is pretty sweet overall..... but a few odd things I noticed so far, the camera is "off".... if I point at a bright yellow piece of paper, it appears white....
the colors seem washed in comparison to the ip4, the dual led flashlight is not as bright as the ip4s single (not a fanboy - just stating the obvious)...... I been playing with it for atleast 4 hours, battery life seems pretty good overall, all things considered.