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Guys!
I had the Transformer for about 3 days now,as much as i love it,something in my heart is telling to return it and wait for the galaxy tab 10.1
My ISSUES
1. I have light bleed and 000000000000000.1 dead pixel on my,which doesnt really border me.
2.My wife said is too wide.
Guys! what should i do?
Well, if you're smart, you know the wife is the boss.
So there ya go.
my wife tells me mine is too wide all the time!
Crimton said:
my wife tells me mine is too wide all the time!
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if you don't need the keyboard, and don't mind not having stock honeycomb and being at samsungs mercy for updates, then go for the GTab.
Do what works for you and fits your needs best. Its personal depending on what you want/need. I'm not sure how forum members can help make the decision for you.
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Hmm, if Galaxy Tab 10.1 also has Tegra 2, then I might be slightly more interested in the Transformer due to its keyboard dock, USB and HDMI. But again, my heart is already sold out for the 10.1's PLS display. So, its a still tough choice for me
What is the difference between IPS and PLS?
Because the transformer IPS look good.
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Hmm, if Galaxy Tab 10.1 also has Tegra 2, then I might be slightly more interested in the Transformer due to its keyboard dock, USB and HDMI. But again, my heart is already sold out for the 10.1's PLS display. So, its a still tough choice for me
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dmoney94 said:
Guys!
I had the Transformer for about 3 days now,as much as i love it,something in my heart is telling to return it and wait for the galaxy tab 10.1
My ISSUES
1. I have light bleed and 000000000000000.1 dead pixel on my,which doesnt really border me.
2.My wife said is too wide.
Guys! what should i do?
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1. Do you know that light bleed is more common than you think, right? even my iPad 2 (as test) have an awesome screen with light bleed. What if the Galaxy Tab also have light bleed?
2. I agree, it's very wide, even wider than Xoom. At least for me this is not a problem, is still very portable and light as iPad 1.
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What is the difference between IPS and PLS?
Because the transformer IPS look good.
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IPS looks very good.
Regarding PLS, you can find some info here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/01/samsung-touts-super-pls-display-as-the-evolution-of-ips-on-smart/
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What is the difference between IPS and PLS?
Because the transformer IPS look good.
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You might want to look at these videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdu5PVjCGo0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1IJHYr5UYk
I really like both tablets and initially I was leaning towards the GT10.1. But I flipped over to the Transformer because of how well the keyboard dock works. The keyboard, touch pad, USB ports, extra SD slot, the Transformer becomes a netbook when you need it.
Second thing that swayed me to ASUS was Samsung's reputation for being very slow with updates. The GT10.1 starts out with vanilla Honeycomb, but eventually it'll get TouchWiz'ed and I imagine this will create big delays with Android updates in the future. The Transformer has only light changes and hopefully Android updates will be more timely.
Getting those Android updates as quickly as possible are important considering how new this Android tablet OS is.
What I still like about the GT10.1 though is how light it is. I like it's look and style more as well.
The PLS display sounds nice and is in the GT10.1's favor. But I get the impression it may not be much of a difference between it an IPS. Viewing angles are suppose to be a little better.
I have 11 days to decide to keep the Transformer. But I think I will. Being $100 cheaper also helps the Transformer too.
+ nicer sexier form factor
- skinned ui (touch wiz)
- Samsung updates = fail
Edit: after looking at the Samsung tab, it looks like a keyboard dock could be very possible since it's got a dock port in the same location as the Asus. However the Asus was specifically designed with a wide bezel to allow for a decent sized keyboard.
I think to actually have a dock like the Transformer, a tablet needs the locking slots alongside the port to keep the screen in place, especially when the combo is closed. So it's not likely something any of the upcoming tablets have as an option, unless I'm missing something.
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my wife tells me mine is too wide all the time!
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That's what she said!
(Not sure if this is inappropriate for this forum or not)
dark_aura said:
IPS looks very good.
Regarding PLS, you can find some info here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/01/samsung-touts-super-pls-display-as-the-evolution-of-ips-on-smart/
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wow that girl is really cute!
if you need the keyboard then stick to the transformer. I hate samsung and their lack of updates. I own a galaxy tab and though I love it so much, I cant stand Samsung. for me, its a no brainer, i need the keyboard for typing papers, notes and things of that sort. I dont really have a laptop anymore since i gave my macbook pro to my mom so i use tablets instead. everyone is raving about the asus display so i am sure it will be fine and i dont really care about PLS right now. but....
i havent actually touched one so i dont really know how its gonna feel in my hands since it is wider than most tablets. i think its worth the tradeoff since you can dock it and have an almost full-sized keyboard.
I don't think the keyboard is a big factor for me, i don't need it.
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I don't think the keyboard is a big factor for me, i don't need it.
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If you won't be using a keyboard dock. Then I think things lean more towards the Galaxy Tab because of it's lighter weight, PLS display, thinness, and style.
And Touch Wiz UX does look like it has some nice points to it. Just pray Samsung can can do better with tablet updates than it has with phone updates.
I'd probably go with the Galaxy Tab if you are not interested in the Transformers keyboard dock. And can survive waiting another 5 or 6 weeks.
Dunno why you guys are dissing Samsung over updates. There have been at least over 6 updates for the Galaxy S, disregarding regions. They were also the first to release Gingerbread to non-Google mobile phones.
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Dunno why you guys are dissing Samsung over updates. There have been at least over 6 updates for the Galaxy S, disregarding regions. They were also the first to release Gingerbread to non-Google mobile phones.
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And bunch of people I know who had stock galaxy s phones that did the stock update landed with bricked devices. They know what they are doing, so definitely not my friends fault lol.
Just returned my Galaxy Tab 10.1v to Vodafone Ireland.. had it a total of 3 days.. received 2pm Monday by 9am this morning.. the glass was lifting from the body of the tab at the bottom Left Hand corner.. the glue wasn't holding up.. if it was that bad after 3 days there was no way I was gonna keep it..
I've asked for a full refund.. I might wait now for the 10.1 release or try the Eee Pad Transformer..
Unfortunately have couple a few of the same complaints about the screen popping out of the bezel with the 10.1 Google IO tablets as well.
I have done quite a bit of research and I get surprised that people are comparing the Transformer with the Tab 10.1. It appears to me the tab is a clear winner, but I will plead ignorance on this.
What are the reasons you would buy the transformer over the tab?
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I have done quite a bit of research and I get surprised that people are comparing the Transformer with the Tab 10.1. It appears to me the tab is a clear winner, but I will plead ignorance on this.
What are the reasons you would buy the transformer over the tab?
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what are the reason you'd buy the tab over the transformer?
pros of transformer
1. keyboard dock with extra battery, ports and trackpad
2. ports on the device(usb, hdmi, sd card)
3. cheaper
4. not made by samsung(well okay, that's just personal preference I guess)
pros of the tab
1. weighs less
to me, the transformer is the clear winner. however, I got a tab for free at i/o and, of course, it's great. if I was going to pay for it though, I'd go with the transformer.
Edit: if we're talking about the 10.1v here, it doesn't even weigh less so I don't see any reason why you'd buy it.
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Unfortunately have couple a few of the same complaints about the screen popping out of the bezel with the 10.1 Google IO tablets as well.
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same here.. it sucks. hopefully nothing too serious happens
smaskell said:
what are the reason you'd buy the tab over the transformer?
pros of transformer
1. keyboard dock with extra battery, ports and trackpad
2. ports on the device(usb, hdmi, sd card)
3. cheaper
4. not made by samsung(well okay, that's just personal preference I guess)
pros of the tab
1. weighs less
to me, the transformer is the clear winner. however, I got a tab for free at i/o and, of course, it's great. if I was going to pay for it though, I'd go with the transformer.
Edit: if we're talking about the 10.1v here, it doesn't even weigh less so I don't see any reason why you'd buy it.
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you forgot some poinz:
pros of the tab:
much better display
better built quality
thinner
winner
from what I've seen, the display on the transformer is pretty good. maybe not as good as the galaxy tab but still. and I don't know about the build quality.. my i/o tab is all cheap plastic(just like everything samsung makes) and it's already coming apart(see last post). however, it is thinner. I will give you that one. The 10.1v isn't, but the 10.1 is. I was kind of including that as part of the weight thing though. I don't see the thinness being a big advantage. it's not like I'm going to be keeping it in my pocket or anything. maybe that's just me though.
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I have done quite a bit of research and I get surprised that people are comparing the Transformer with the Tab 10.1. It appears to me the tab is a clear winner, but I will plead ignorance on this.
What are the reasons you would buy the transformer over the tab?
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I had a Transformer and returned it in anticipation for the Galaxy Tab. However here are some of the pros I see with the Transformer.
+ $100 cheaper
+ microSD slot (might have to buy an expensive 3G Galaxy Tab for micro SD)
+ mini HDMI port
+ micro USB port
+ Keyboard dock converts tablet to netbook and extends battery to 16 hours.
I'm giving up a lot just for the Galaxy Tab's lighter weight and sleeker look. I think the Transformer is just ugly. I hope the Galaxy Tab is worth it.
But I'm about to cancel my JR.com pre-order. Think I might be safer just buying it from Best Buy in case this turns out to be yet another tablet that doesn't live up to expectations and has to be returned.
Hate to say it, but I want a tablet that feels like it's quality built. The Xoom felt quality, just way too heavy. The Transformer felt and looked cheap. The Samsung GT looks quality, but... crossing my fingers. Hope these Android manufactures don't make me go out and buy an iPad 2 after all this waiting.
smaskell said:
what are the reason you'd buy the tab over the transformer?
pros of transformer
1. keyboard dock with extra battery, ports and trackpad
2. ports on the device(usb, hdmi, sd card)
3. cheaper
4. not made by samsung(well okay, that's just personal preference I guess)
pros of the tab
1. weighs less
to me, the transformer is the clear winner. however, I got a tab for free at i/o and, of course, it's great. if I was going to pay for it though, I'd go with the transformer.
Edit: if we're talking about the 10.1v here, it doesn't even weigh less so I don't see any reason why you'd buy it.
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You forgot the all important
2. Has 3G
smaskell said:
what are the reason you'd buy the tab over the transformer?
pros of transformer
1. keyboard dock with extra battery, ports and trackpad
2. ports on the device(usb, hdmi, sd card)
3. cheaper
4. not made by samsung(well okay, that's just personal preference I guess)
pros of the tab
1. weighs less
to me, the transformer is the clear winner. however, I got a tab for free at i/o and, of course, it's great. if I was going to pay for it though, I'd go with the transformer.
Edit: if we're talking about the 10.1v here, it doesn't even weigh less so I don't see any reason why you'd buy it.
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I hate sounding like one of "those" people, but if I have a laptop then why would I want a keyboard for my tablet? Anyway, that's my personal preference and I understand it's a big reason people want the transformer, but for $150 more it's just out of the question for me.
Ports? The tab, while it does not have specific HDMI/USB ports, will have HDMI & USB connectors. Unfortunately you'll have to shell out some bucks (I'd guess around $30) for an HDMI connector.
The official (non-IO model) 10.1 may have an SDCard slot, but no one knows for sure, yet.
Weighs less and you missed that it is much thinner. Form factor is huge when it comes to a device that you're holding during 90% of its usage.
I dunno -- if the tab wasnt coming out I would be getting a Transformer. I'm just not sold after seeing the transformer in action.
And as an Android enthusiast it pains me to say this, but having TouchWiz layered over Honeycomb may boost the user-experience. I played with the Xoom for a week and really thought that if a manufacturer layered a UI/UX over top of Honeycomb it would have been a MUCH better experience.
So build quality issues like all the other tablets out there now...check
Can't play hi def video like all the other android tablets out there now..check
iPad2 here I come!!! Just gotta find a good microsoft office app and it is the perfect tablet! Definitely superior to all the current tablets or there now (please don't quote hardware specs, if the hardware and software worked well together there wouldn't be all these threads out on android tablet forums)
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Edit: if we're talking about the 10.1v here, it doesn't even weigh less so I don't see any reason why you'd buy it.
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The 10.1v also has a weight of only 595g .
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The 10.1v also has a weight of only 595g .
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weighed mine on digital kitchen scales 574g.. anyway at the beginning of the thread i said was gonna go for the transformer... after watching hundreds of youtube videos on it.. I have changed my mind.. will wait and see what the 10.1 is like in terms of quality and price (3G version when it's out)
I currently own the Asus Transformer 16gb model. Is there anyone here who has opted for the Tab after using/owning the Transformer? If so what are your thoughts?
I feel the Transformer screen isn't very sensitive and feel i have to press pretty hard sometimes. Is the Tab any better?
Also I feel the Tab may have more of development community.
thanks!
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I currently own the Asus Transformer 16gb model. Is there anyone here who has opted for the Tab after using/owning the Transformer? If so what are your thoughts?
I feel the Transformer screen isn't very sensitive and feel i have to press pretty hard sometimes. Is the Tab any better?
Also I feel the Tab may have more of development community.
thanks!
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This is a question for the general area really, but we are also very nice here in the SGT10.1 threads, so I will also answer your question. Touchscreen is awesome in responsiveness in my opinion, and I like it a lot more than the transformer. Also, the devs we have here, a couple so far, have been working on other devices, like my Captivate, and they are all top notch. Lots of breakthroughs in the last 3 days and we are awaiting a brand new kernel which will make this thing fly
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This is a question for the general area really, but we are also very nice here in the SGT10.1 threads, so I will also answer your question. Touchscreen is awesome in responsiveness in my opinion, and I like it a lot more than the transformer. Also, the devs we have here, a couple so far, have been working on other devices, like my Captivate, and they are all top notch. Lots of breakthroughs in the last 3 days and we are awaiting a brand new kernel which will make this thing fly
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Yeah sorry to throw it in DEV but I figured it included questions regarding ROMs and such My bad.
I can still return the Transformer to Amazon and get the Tab but I want to make sure it's worth keeping. Have they fixed the lag issues and such with the 3.1 update?
I don't own a transformer but the tab is amazing. The screen is amazing. And the dev support is already pretty heavy after only a fee days. The update for touchwiz also looks neat. If ur happy with stock honeycomb I think there is an option but its always good to have more then one choice.
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I owned a transformer for a week and returned it. I never regret a bit since I got the Galaxy tab 10.1 on the national launch date.
Reasons:
1. Build quality (big big difference)
2. GPS reception
3. Speaker quality
4. Display quality
5. Style (big difference)
To me these 5 reasons are well worthy to throw in an extra $100 and give up micro sd slot plus the mini HDMI slot.
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I owned a transformer for a week and returned it. I never regret a bit since I got the Galaxy tab 10.1 on the national launch date.
Reasons:
1. Build quality (big big difference)
2. GPS reception
3. Speaker quality
4. Display quality
5. Style (big difference)
To me these 5 reasons are well worthy to throw in an extra $100 and give up micro sd slot plus the mini HDMI slot.
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This is my list too. I owned it for about 2 weeks and returned it as well. I am not looking back. The speakers on the transformer suck compared to the 10.1. Display's are both good, but the TF has horrible light bleed, build quality is awesome. This will be the first device I've purchased in a long time that will not need to be exchanged or returned.
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Same for me, sold my Transformer the day the Sammy came out .... my only gripe is the damned typing lag on ANY website. This seems to be a Honeycomb issue because both the ASUS and the Samsung have it. Qualitywise (build) the Sammy is far far better.
However I can also understand why the Apple folks love their iPads. I played with one today at the mall and the scroll speed flipping between screens is untouchable by any android device and the 3rd party hardware available everywhere from Walmart to Brookstone is endless. You'll never see that happen to android because there are just too many incarnations. Problem is I hate "square" screens, they are so 90's. If the iPad had the same widescreen form factor as the Android devices I might have had to make a tough decision.
hienkhieu said:
I owned a transformer for a week and returned it. I never regret a bit since I got the Galaxy tab 10.1 on the national launch date.
Reasons:
1. Build quality (big big difference)
2. GPS reception
3. Speaker quality
4. Display quality
5. Style (big difference)
To me these 5 reasons are well worthy to throw in an extra $100 and give up micro sd slot plus the mini HDMI slot.
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I like them both
I own both devices and I love the tab so much that it is hard to put it down. The transformer get little attention now and will probably get sold, but I like it as well.
The colors and brightness on the tab are much better. I keep my brightness at about 30% and it is as bright as the transformer at 70%. Blues on the transformer are a little gray compared. The IPS display is great, but the view angles on the tab are still good.
The weight, thickness and build quality. The edges are smooth and feels nice in the hand. The transformer have sharp edges and tend to hurt after a while and is also a little heavier.
Sound quality is better and overall screen response is better
3.1 is smoother on the tab. I think Asus could have put a little more effort in 3.1 before releasing it. It seem they spent more time in adding the eye candy over performance.
I do like having the HDMI and microSD ports but in relity I never really used anything but the MicroSD slot, so I can live without them. I use online storage for my music file so the extra storage is no big deal. I don't need to keep tons of movies on the device and don't plan on using it as a media server for my home. It will be used to entertain me while away from home.
There a two apps on the transformer that I wished I had on the tab - MyLibrary and (MyCloud that include SplashTop - currently does not work on the tab).
The tab is about 1/2" shorter, but I think Asus added the extra length so that it matches with the dock.
The carmers - I am not planning on using the device to take photos or make movies, so the quality is no big deal for me.
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Same for me, sold my Transformer the day the Sammy came out .... my only gripe is the damned typing lag on ANY website. This seems to be a Honeycomb issue because both the ASUS and the Samsung have it. Qualitywise (build) the Sammy is far far better.
However I can also understand why the Apple folks love their iPads. I played with one today at the mall and the scroll speed flipping between screens is untouchable by any android device and the 3rd party hardware available everywhere from Walmart to Brookstone is endless. You'll never see that happen to android because there are just too many incarnations. Problem is I hate "square" screens, they are so 90's. If the iPad had the same widescreen form factor as the Android devices I might have had to make a tough decision.
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Switching from the Samsung keyboard to the stock android keyboard fixed alot of the lag. Switching to the dolphin HD browser fixed almost the rest of the lag. An overclocked kernel should take care of the rest.
I have to agree with everyone else here. Returned my Transformer and Dock for the Galaxy Tab. The weight alone sold me. But the camera quality and the display quality sealed it. You will not regret exchanging the Asus for this one.
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GT10.1 > Transformer > iPad 2 > Xoom (We all know it).
I returned my Transformer after a little over a week of having it and ordered the Tab 10.1. I have absolutely no regrets at all. The Transformer had light leak issues on 5 places on the screen, 0 with the Tab. The rounded corners on the Tab are much nicer than the sharp squared corners on the Transformer. The tab weighs less, and is thinner which makes it feel much better in the hand. The flash on the camera is nice, and having vibrate functionality is very nice when typing and getting alerts. The overall build quality seems nicer, so I really don't think you would regret returning your Transformer and going with a Tab 10.1.
I've done some reseaerch about all these tablets and yes the build quality on the Transformer laging a bit. I have one. The reason I went with the transformer is the micro sd and keyboard. Second reason, samsung lags on updates!!!!!. I have a captivate, have been running Andromeda3 since samsung doesn't update. Anyway, my screen seems really sensitive, I barely touch the screen and it registers. Yes speakers suck but other than that the transformer is very good, battery life is amazing, dock is nice. I don't have any light leaks either. I was this forum to check out rom dev. Compared to transformer one. One more note. If you want an Ipad get one not a clone
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I've done some reseaerch about all these tablets and yes the build quality on the Transformer laging a bit. I have one. The reason I went with the transformer is the micro sd and keyboard. Second reason, samsung lags on updates!!!!!. I have a captivate, have been running Andromeda3 since samsung doesn't update. Anyway, my screen seems really sensitive, I barely touch the screen and it registers. Yes speakers suck but other than that the transformer is very good, battery life is amazing, dock is nice. I don't have any light leaks either. I was this forum to check out rom dev. Compared to transformer one. One more note. If you want an Ipad get one not a clone
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I think that this thread has been tolerated as the development is just now stepping up. However, whether you are joking or not, its comments like yours that just make people mad.
Samsung lags in there updates? This we know. That's why we are here, hovering in the dev section, waiting for these awesome guys to work their magic and unlock the full potential of these devices.
Everyone here is open to comments from helpful users trying to help better the development community and make it a great place to learn and play with our toys. Your comment, and all of its opinions, need to be in the Section market "General" as it does not pertain to the Android development on the SGT10.1 platform.
I have a 10.1v and a friend has a Transformer...
The 10.1v bezel is much slimmer than the Transformer and easily to carry.
It is way lighter too, and it is very significant.
Only plus that the Transformer's screen looks sharper and brighter... at least to me.
I went from the TF to the GT and haven't looked back since. I also sold my iPad and haven missed it since getting the GT.
Basically, what it came down to is... If you already have a laptop or a netbook, get the GT. Otherwise, stick with the TF. Period!
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I had two Transformers, each for a couple weeks at a time. Now I've had my Galaxy Tab 10.1 for almost a week.
I think the ASUS Transformer is extremely competitive against the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and it was an agonizing decision between the two. They have very different strengths and weakness.
What I love about the Transformer is it's low price, the micro SD and mini HDMI ports, and keyboard dock that turns a tablet into a netbook. But the Transformer has very poor speakers and the bezel is extra wide and has corners, the tablet is somewhat uncomfortable in portrait mode.
The Galaxy Tab 10.1 is super light, great rounded bezel, just absolutely wonderful to hold. PLS display has great colors. But no micro SD, the accessories are very expensive and suck big compared to the ASUS keyboard dock. You'll spend $150 on the Samsung keyboard dock and adapters and still get much less functionality than with the same priced ASUS keyboard dock.
I know I'll need more than 16GB of storage. With the Transformer I was able to spend $400 for the 16GB model and use the 16GB micro SD card I already owned (you can get them on Amazon for $18-25). Lack of micro SD means I had to buy the $600 Galaxy Tab 10.1.
So why did I think the Galaxy Tab 10.1 was worth spending $200 more on? I mostly consume content with my tablet, watch videos, surf the web, read ebooks and mangas. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 is a pure tablet, it's light and very comfortable and has a great colorful display.
The Transformer is awesome because it can be a netbook. But I decided as cool as that is. I'm not sure Android is really up to the task of really being a laptop or even Windows netbook replacement. I'm not sure I'd see myself actually using that keyboard all that much, as I'd probably rather just get out the laptop instead.
I'm pretty happy with my decision now. Just really hope Samsung is more punctual with it's updates. Because Android 3.x really needs some updating.
I got the 32GB version of the TF. I like ASUS products and have a few of their laptops and have used their motherboards for years. So when the TF came out I got it right away. After playing with it for a few days I noticed how cheaply built it was and the first time I tried to watch a movie in the dark I freaked out! The backlight leakage was crazy bad. I took it back and got another one and it was worse. The backing of the TF was loose and made a creaking sound. The light leakage was worse than the first and the power button failed after 5 days. I took the second one back and got a third. Went to my car and went over it before I left Frys and it had all the same problems. Walked back in and got my money back. ASUS you drooped the ball big time with the TF.
After all that, I got the Galaxy 10.1 and was blown away with the total quality of the thing. Not one issue. Its perfect.
I love this thing and have used it every day.
Good luck to whoever got the TF. Hope yours doesn't have the issues my three different ones had.
I ditched my TF, i can tell you why in one word, Comfort.
I loved my TF, but compared to the Tab it feels bulky and heavy to hold.
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I've been comparing the SGT 10.1 with the Transformer for awhile now, and I'm not exactly sure which one to get :\ The Transformer has quite a few problems, whereas I haven't heard of some for the Tab. I just want to know which TABLET is better, no keyboards attached.
Obviously since I am posting on a SGT 10.1 thread, many will say Samsung. I have also posted on the Transformer to get better details.
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I've been comparing the SGT 10.1 with the Transformer for awhile now, and I'm not exactly sure which one to get :\ The Transformer has quite a few problems, whereas I haven't heard of some for the Tab. I just want to know which TABLET is better, no keyboards attached.
Obviously since I am posting on a SGT 10.1 thread, many will say Samsung. I have also posted on the Transformer to get better details.
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For longevity and superior hardware, stick with SGT. Also the speakers and display on SGT is better than any current tablet in the market. Rest is up to you to decide which one you want to keep.
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Ive owned both and the transformer was a piece of junk in my opinion. Terrible build quality issues that went unaddressed (returned three times and still didn't have one that worked properly). The build quality is loads better on the galaxy tab, well worth the difference in price in my opinion.
I went through 5 Transformers because of light bleeding before giving up and purchasing a Galaxy Tab ($50 off...thanks Staples).
I still don't hate the Transformer. I think it would be a fantastic device if there weren't build quality issues.
I can say (as unbiased as I can) that the GT is better than the Transformer. The screen is noticeably better and the speakers are MUCH louder on my GT than any of the Transformers I had. The quality of the GT is much better and my GT has no light bleed whatsoever.
While it still annoys me that Samsung didn't put a microSD card slot on it, I think the other areas more than make up for this.
By the way, whoever at Samsung made the decision not to put a microSD slot on the GT should be fired. Such a small addition would have put the GT way out in front for best tablets IMHO. With no microSD card, its like they gave up just a few inches from the finish line.
Im with you on the sd card. But not a deal breaker for me
Sgt is so much better than the other tablets and you can always go to the store and compare them and yeah the sd card would have being a nice addittion
Light or heavy. That'a the question.
I owned the TF (well, 3 problematic ones) and currently own the GT (haven't looked back). Basically, if you're willing to put up with build quality issues (trust me, your TF WILL have something wrong with it), then you can even start comparing the two.
Bottom line is, if you already own a laptop/netbook, get the GT. The TF shines when docked, and even then, it falls short of the entry-level netbook (software issues).
I've had 2 TFs, one with power button sticking issues and other with microSD card reader issues.
Both returned and waiting for my tab to come soon.
TF was pretty dispointment as in quality control. What are the odds of getting bad ones back to back? (and the troubles I went through returning and getting new ones) I would think very hard before buying any ASUS products now and on.
I couldn't say much about the tab yet since I'm still waiting for it.
I have a transformer with no build issues. The asus is a little wider, a little thicker, and a little heavier than my SGT. But it runs the same apps just as well, and was $100 less than the SGT. Kind of like the iPad 1 to the SGT being an iPad2 in dimensions, yet the Asus has a better rear camera, microSD, and that great keyboard dock as an accessories.
I have both tablets and the only thing I like better about the transformer is the sd card. I got one of the better built transformers, with my only complaint being a small amount of light bleed in one corner, but I still do not trust the build quality of it in the long run. I returned a xoom (staples didn't have any galaxy tabs in stock at the time) to get the tab and plan to sell the transformer and rebuy another xoom before the staples $100 off deal ends. The xoom feels like it is a much higher quality piece of hardware, and I am willing to deal with the extra weight and slightly less vibrant screen for what I feel is a better built device.
So which one do you like better? Xoom or the SGT? Assuming the TF is out of the picture.
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So which one do you like better? Xoom or the SGT? Assuming the TF is out of the picture.
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Yeah same question. My brother is considering the xoom since i already have the SGT. SHould he?
I chose the GT after 3 exchanges on the Asus. The GT screen is just so much better than the xoom and I like that its thin and light Asus and xoom are pretty heavy.
I can't comment on ASUS vs SGT, but as for the Xoom vs SGT you really have to decide what you're going to be using the tablet for.
Xoom is going to give you 2x flash space for the same money, plus the device is expandable with an SD card, HDMI, and USB host plugs. And as others have mentioned, the Xoom is built like a tank compared to other tablets.
That being said, the screen on the SGT is amazing. Go to staples and compare, you'll see. The Xoom will look washed out, whereas the SGT will be bright and vibrant. The SGT is also super thin and light. If you plan on holding your tablet a lot, this is important.
I went with the SGT because I don't need the HDMI and USB ports. I also don't put much media on it because I stream everything, so the flash space and SD card are all but useless to me. And lastly, I've very careful with my devices. My phones have always gone naked and have never had a screen scratch, thus I choose light weight and thinness over stronger materials. The only selling point of the Xoom that was appealing to me over the SGT is the fact that it is the Nexus of the tablets and will see Android updates years before we do.
Bottom line? Xoom or SGT, you'll be happy either way
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A buddy of mine has had both and he said the Transformer was crap.
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I have the sgt and my broter has the xoom. I personaly like the sgt better because it is ligter, the speekers are better and the screen looks less washed out. Although with the xom you get much more space to put movies and music on.
I was considering both but after the stories I've heard about the Asus I was swayed with the SGT. The build quality issues on the Asus deterred me from getting that one wasn't going to risk having to go through 1+ devices to find the perfect one, saying that the SGT could prove to be the same, here's hoping there is nothing wrong with it when it arrives.
GTab 32GB $529.99 on eBay right now. Brand new! Just saw it under my daily deals. LOL You guys are lucky.
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If you had a choice would you buy the Asus TF300T again?
Personally, I maybe about to switch to the Galaxy Note 10.1 as my Asus TF300T has been sent in for RMA due to banding (something inherent in 4.2, and not an issue it turns out). Anyway, I think I may have the chance to say 'if you can't fix it, I don't want it to my retailer (UK)'.
The things I like about the tablet are:
Fast updates
Smooth (at least some of the time)
The dock
It's creak free (mostly)
The things I dislike:
Very very slow internal storage makes the tablet lag
Creaking from the left bezel
Constant force close messages (improved a bit in 4.2, but still occasionally happening due to I/O issues)
Slow web browsing (improved partially since 4.2)
Edit: Just received my tablet back and it's in a worse condition. I'm now exchanging it with my retailer for a Note 10.1.
i wouldn't cause of the screen quality... i would probably go for a nexus 10
At the price I got mine at...yeah I would.
At the price I got mine (close to 400 euros, last summer), I wouldn't buy it again now. It's a good tablet, has been serving me very well, but technology has moved on and expectations have increased.
If I HAD to buy a tablet now, I would go for something cheaper, a nexus 7 would be okay or something at that price. Very similar to the TF300 in capabilities and much cheaper.
(btw, I use my tablet mostly for educational purposes... to read books, browser the web, youtube etc)
I am waiting for the next generation of tablets where 400 euros will buy me much more than the TF300 currently offers.
Yes, I would buy it again if it was at the same price I originally bought the 32gb tablet for $299 and the blue dock for $49.
I'm very happy with the TF300T. It does everything I need it to. The great Devs we have in the section are an added bonus.
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For me personally, I wouldn't buy it again because mine got give me a bit of issues when the touchscreen didn't work properly only after two weeks of having it before i teared the whole thing apart and fixed it which is still a bit wonky but i can cope with it.
But the device itself works very well but like what other have said, the technology with this tablet is a bit outdated compared to other tablet but the form factor of the tablet being able to transform to a netbook is what made me buy it.
If anything I might go with the tf700 as my next tablet or a future generation of the transformer series
I upgraded to the tf300t from a tf100 and I'm really happy with it. I don't like Android on tablets in general, I use Ubuntu mostly as it brings out the full potential, and makes it more of a netbook.
Build quailty isn't great mine scratches really easy being a white model and compared to my tf101 doesn't feel as sturdy. I previously had a samsung windows 8 hybrid tablet that cost waay more than the tf300t and the built quailty was terrible and the Intel atom processor was nothing on the performance of the tegra 3 not to mention the gpu on the tegra is about 5 times faster. I beleive the tf300 is well worth the price.
Although id proberly buy the tf700 if I had another chance.
Hmmm... Is this question asking "if you were to walk into a store today, would you buy the TF300T?" or more like "If you could go back in time, would you still buy it?"
I bought mine right after it launched. My only other real choices were the TF201, the Acer A500 (I think that was the model number; might have been the A510 or something), a Samsung Tab 2, or wait several months for the TF700. If I were to go back to that point in time, I would probably still buy it as it was the best option available.
If I were shopping for a tablet today, I would pass up the TF300T and get a Nexus 10. That's a no-brainer to me. It costs the same as I paid for my TF300T with a way better screen and dev community (not that our dev community isn't great, but let's face it; the TF300T isn't a Nexus).
No I like it but I keep running into random lag issues for no real reason just flipping through the screens it some times lock up for a second. I also don't like the size of it I can't carry it around with me. Its even large for a 10. Inch tablet I got a 10 tablet case and it wouldn't fit. I wanted to get the galaxy tab 7.7 but felt that was extreamly over priced. If I were to buy a tablet now I would either get the note 8.0 or maybe Ipad mini even though I don't really like ios but size is more important to me.
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No I like it but I keep running into random lag issues for no real reason just flipping through the screens it some times lock up for a second. I also don't like the size of it I can't carry it around with me. Its even large for a 10. Inch tablet I got a 10 tablet case and it wouldn't fit. I wanted to get the galaxy tab 7.7 but felt that was extreamly over priced. If I were to buy a tablet now I would either get the note 8.0 or maybe Ipad mini even though I don't really like ios but size is more important to me.
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I got a tab 2 I'd trade ya
i wouldn't, keyboard is more novelty then useful for me and the tab is a bit too big for the task i use it for, i would just get a nexus 7...or something in that market
maybe if i didn't have a newer laptop and the tf300t was my main laptop then i would be singing a different tune...
I certainly wouldn't. A couple of days after creating this thread my tablet came back in a worse condition. I'm now about to exchange it for a Note 10.1
I wouldn't because I'm completly disappointed with a Tegra 3 CPU, with TF300 screen and battery. It's more likely that my next tablet will be iPad Mini or something really worthy on Android.
But I can't say this tablet is bad. It's okay but there are still some issues I really don't want to face again.
never ever asus again now switch samsung tab
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If I was to buy one today, I voted no. Back when I bought it for the price I got it for, yes. It was the best option for $280 when I bought it during the boxing week sale as no other comparable tablet was within a hundred bucks in my area.
I bought a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 on friday, and can with hand on heart tell that i would never buy another Asus pad again, i have had both the Tf201, and Tf300, and they are slow in everything, compared my new Samsung
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I bought a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 on friday, and can with hand on heart tell that i would never buy another Asus pad again, i have had both the Tf201, and Tf300, and they are slow in everything, compared my new Samsung
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Agreed :good:
I'm very happy with my TF300T with CM10.1. Traded it for an Ipad. It was the best trade IMO.
Maybe I never had a Samsung so I don't notice the lag. The creaking from the left bezel is the only thing that annoys me.
Maybe it's just me but ... running the Tablet with CROMI 4.2.1 (4.5) with Hunds Kernel at 1.6 ghz...
For 250 $ (refurb) ... It's running flawlessly and it's fast.
Very pleased with it.
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I wouldn't because I'm completly disappointed with a Tegra 3 CPU, with TF300 screen and battery.
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Could you describe in a little more detail why you are completely disappointed in these three areas?
Tegra 3: Not the fastest but it's a pretty decent processor. Certainly not of the slower ones out there. I think the TF300T is having some performance issues due to its sloooow internal storage (the I/O issue). Where does the Tegra 3 disappoint you?
TF300 screen: I had the chance to check out a Samsung Note 10.1. The screen looked 'better' in the sense of more color saturation and less distance between the display and the surface (not that the TF300 is bad at this). But it wasn't a huge difference. What I wish was better on the TF300, is the glass. It's not very scratch resistant. Why are you completely disappointed in the TF300 screen?
battery: I think the TF300 has a pretty standard/expected battery life. Not outstanding but not too short either. I personally charge once per day or every couple of days. Are there tablets out there with substantially better battery life? The reviews I've seen do not point to such conclusion. (Perhaps you would get an extra hour or two at best?)