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[Q] Xoom or Samsung 10.1

I bought the Xoom Sunday without contract, and I am debating on returning it and wait for the Samsung's 10.1 tab. I really like my xoom, I haven't had any big issues with my xoom but I don't like how there is like nothing for honeycomb yet. I read about people having problems with hd videos because of the processor. The Samsung is suppose to have a better screen and a better rear camera.
I would like other peoples opinions on "should I return my xoom?"

Outside of the screen and camera those are really the only two differences. Aesthetics also i guess.

Samsung has shown they turn their back on recent devices, for me I love the xoom

After hearing from multiple sources that the GTab 10.1 feels like a cheap plastic iPad I don't even care about it anymore. I also heard the "aluminum" rim around it was painted plastic. Of course, this is all personal preference... but I don't like the negativity surrounding this thing's build quality.
If the screen is that much better, then maybe I will reconsider.

some major problem with the samsung is NO USB, NO HDMI, NO MicroSD card
These are huge issues.
The xoom hardware is capable of supporting usb host with the right adapter and software.
Samsung is going all proprietary
Finally, the xoom's screen isnt BAD its just not as bright/has as much contrast as the ipad - but you get a higher resolution as a trade-off. (and again the screen isnt THAT much different)

Flaunt77 said:
some major problem with the samsung is NO USB, NO HDMI, NO MicroSD card
These are huge issues.
The xoom hardware is capable of supporting usb host with the right adapter and software.
Samsung is going all proprietary
Finally, the xoom's screen isnt BAD its just not as bright/has as much contrast as the ipad - but you get a higher resolution as a trade-off. (and again the screen isnt THAT much different)
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I guess that just changed my mind. I had no idea that it was missing all that stuff.
Thanks.

Thought the Xoom had better viewing angles than the Galaxy 10.1? Xoom also isnt plastic, another plus for it. Does the Galaxy 10.1 come with an unlockable bootloader?

Ugh... What Honeycomb tablet will be crowned king? =/
I think for the next few months the Xoom just wins~

for me it's definitely xoom, though admittedly I would want a lighter tablet.

What about the LG tablet?
That one is a real contender too.
It is smaller and lighter.

Earthbrain said:
What about the LG tablet?
That one is a real contender too.
It is smaller and lighter.
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Afraid they're going to charge a premium for the 3D ability of it (3D screen and extra camera means more $$). I think the 8.9" formfactor might be nice but I don't see it being any more stelar than GT10.1 or Xoom, and it might cost just as much or more.
Samsung stated that after the iPad 2 came out with its specs and price, they needed to "re-evaluate" their pricing and components on the Galaxy Tab 10.1. This means we might see a cheap version of it, which makes it more appealing to me. Some of the shortcomings I can live with (no HDMI is fine with me), but some things like no MicroSD is just a deal breaker unless i can buy a 64GB GT10.1 for the same price as a 32GB Xoom. I don't care about the plastic back, if it makes it lighter and is relatively sturdy, I'm okay with that.

Just in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1003417
Apparently, Samsung redesigned the 10.1" to be thinner, lighter than iPad2 and added a microSD card too!
Awesome!
Unfortunately, the YouTube video has been pulled out.
Can't wait, 16:00 time (GMT)!

Bye xoom, hello galaxy tab 10. 1.
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calin75 said:
Bye xoom, hello galaxy tab 10. 1.
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Yes. I think I'm going with the Galaxy Tab 10.1 too. Only disappointment with it is, the 3 MP rear camera, a price to pay for the thinness. But, on the positive side, it has Divx/Xvid support too, so hopefully should not have video playback issues, as on Xoom.

gogol said:
Just in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1003417
Apparently, Samsung redesigned the 10.1" to be thinner, lighter than iPad2 and added a microSD card too!
Awesome!
Unfortunately, the YouTube video has been pulled out.
Can't wait, 16:00 time (GMT)!
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Too bad it has one bad thing. TOUCHWIZ

I guess if you're willing to wait till June to get the exact same specs (besides the screen.. and the missing hdmi and microusb ports.) then go for it.

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Too bad it has one bad thing. TOUCHWIZ
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Yea but we have XDA. I guess it won't be long, before someone figures out a way or a ROM to pull it out

I know this falls in the endless wait for the next version circle but if nVidia can indeed deliver tablets with Quad Core Kal-El by August, I would feel bad waiting up to June (potentially July/August for Canadians).
I believe I will be picking a Wifi XOOM at launch in Canada (April 8).
XOOM Pros:
- The highest quality finish so far.
- HDMI out port
- Micro USB port
- Unskinned
- Relockable bootloader
- Currently the closest to a Dev device and most likely to receive the most AOSP love
- Available now (next week Wifi)
XOOM Cons:
- Heavy
- Screen is slightly sub par according to most
- Power button placement (not a big deal but still...)
- No 16 or 64 gig models (altough the 64Gb is kinda irrelevant when SD card is available)
- No USB charging (minor again as it would take long to charge, potentially fixed with custom ROM)
To me the Pros offset the Cons. I see two choice with Android tablets: Be an early adopter and get the XOOM, wait around Christmas for quad core/better speced/better priced/polished and stable 3.X.
Competition is just starting to heat up, once HTC, Sony, RIM, HP, MS release their product, most of which should be somewhere this summer except for maybe MS, we will start to see what the tablet market actually looks like.

I was talking to my wife about tablets when the iPad2 was just announced. I told her about the weight and size and her reply was "Why does everything always have to be thinner and lighter!??!" There you go. I'm happy with the Xoom and once I have this awesome PivotPad I won't have any problems with holding it anymore! Maybe in the future there will also be a solution to the video decoding issues...

The main reason I wanted to go for Samsung was the fact it was going to be a Google experience device and now they pull this Touchwiz crap.

Go for the Eeepad or wait for the Galaxy Tab 10.1?

Im conidering a tablet but torn between the ASUS eeePad Transformer and the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1.
Without doubt the Samsung has the wow factor, but they're making such a hash of releasing it by all accounts. Hardware specs don't appear to be fully finalised, it appears the thing version won't have a memory card slot, the camera only 3MP and it's still not released and there's no release date for the UK.
The ASUS meanwhile according to the videos I've seen have excellent sound which should be good for media playback.
Im worried about the lack of 3G but remember I could use my Galaxy S as a WiFi hotspot for those times I need to use this on the go.
The ASUS is released, has 3.1, some decent features and a great price.
Is there any reason I should wait for the Samsung and not get the ASUS? Is there any other tablet that comes close for the price? I was looking at the Xoom, and the Flywer and everything in between, but they all seemed to be much more expensive.
What do you guys think?
Does the Eeepad also support DivX playback?
Thanks
Simon

For divx it's ok but for HD videos all the tegra 2 tablets can't handle them very well.
Just want to be sure you won't expect much about it. That said, the transformer has a nice ips screen but with some bleeds (related to ips technology) and a microsd slot. The galaxy tab have no microsd slot.
The sound on the asus is not very good, I can't speak about the galaxy tab on this front.
Performance wise all tegra 2 tablets are more or less the same what you should look at are expansion ports, form factor and screen. So ask yourself what you want.
Hope that helps.

bottom line is if you want android but with an ipad formfactor in the sense of no built in expandibility but thin and light then go samsung.
If oyu want something that is less expensive, had HDMi and microsd built in, is cheaper, and has optional keyboard dock turning it into a longer battery life android netbook with usb ports and full sd card slot, then Go Asus. Asus however will be a bit heavier and thicker and from my experience the build quality will suffer a bit compared to the samsung.

I just read the Anandtech Review on the Galaxy Tab 10.1.The 10.1 wins with its thin form factor, weight and IPAD like contours, while the TF beats out the 10.1 on all benchmarks and battery life and the convenience of the dock.

I'm in the same situation as the OP with regards to the Samsung and the Asus (I've recently returned a TF), I'm now waiting for Samsung to release definitive specs and price here in the UK. I've just returned from my local PC World, they've no news on the GT 10.1 at all. Whilst I was there I had a look at the range of tablets on display and I have to say the Transformer looked better than I remember.

Yep, form factor definatley goes to Samsung, along with build quality.
As for Asus, its still a great looking tablet, and comfortable to hold in my opinion. Has the HDMI, memory card slot, ability to be docked, and is $100 less. Its sort of a no brainer for me, but depends what you want to do with it.

For some of the reasons mentioned by aibo I would wait for a tegra-3 tablet. This is especially true if you are interested in any type of HD media. The more I play with my TF the more I realize the tegra-2 is just underpowered trying to play any kind of HD content with HD sound. Don't get me wrong I love my TF and knowing what I know now if I really wanted to wait I would also wait for a tegra-3 Asus.
See the should I wait for the tegra-3 thread fo even more reasons to wait.

All the more reason to get the Asus. Get base model which is 399. Then next year give it to family or sell it for 200 and get a kalel tegra 3
This way you get to enjoy a tablet for a year and the 100 you save plus selling your used Asus will get you most of the way to the latest and greatest.
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sjdean said:
Without doubt the Samsung has the wow factor,
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How can the GT have a WOW factor? it's just the same as the Xoom, the Acer Iconia, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc unless of course you mean WOW in Greek: Wimadia, Objectori, Wimbararia (The same as all the rest)
In the Galaxy Tab forum you ask
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Galaxy Tab: Is it Worth It?
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Of course it's not; it has a lot less features than the Transformer, it's a no brainer

checkbox111 said:
How can the GT have a WOW factor?
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It is thinner and lighter than the iPad2. That's it.

4dthinker said:
It is thinner and lighter than the iPad2. That's it.
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And +$100 more. Is it really worth it? The TF101 is pretty light as it is already.
With +$100 more you can get yourself a TF101 32GB AND A MicroSD slot whereas $499.99 Galaxy Tab 10.1 you'll get 16GB without a MicroSD.

4dthinker said:
It is thinner and lighter than the iPad2. That's it.
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I bet you think size 0 women a sexy

Also, according to Anandtech, 10.1 doesn't have as much glare on the screen as the Transformer. I won't go into color saturation as that's preference of the user.
Too much speculating and assumptions in these threads. I doubt many here have actually had both in hand.

songmeesay said:
Also, according to Anandtech, 10.1 doesn't have as much glare on the screen as the Transformer. I won't go into color saturation as that's preference of the user.
Too much speculating and assumptions in these threads. I doubt many here have actually had both in hand.
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supercurio does, https://twitter.com/#!/supercurio he has been comparing the two devices

zephiK said:
supercurio does, https://twitter.com/#!/supercurio he has been comparing the two devices
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I meant more along in this specific thread. Perhaps OP should also post this in the Galaxy Tab 10.1 forums as well as there are some users that have jumped ship from the Transformer to the 10.1 to get others opinions instead of Transformer users that haven't tried the 10.1 yet.
Looks like supercurio is liking the 10.1 according to his tweets.

4dthinker said:
It is thinner and lighter than the iPad2. That's it.
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no expandable memory is a deal breaker!!! i can easily fill up 16gb and i don't want to pay the 32 gb price!!!

I've owned both and trust me...the weight difference is a major advantage for the Tab...MAJOR!

james robinson said:
no expandable memory is a deal breaker!!! i can easily fill up 16gb and i don't want to pay the 32 gb price!!!
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Not entirely true. It's just not built in. Sure you'll have to buy the adapter for it, but it is indeed expandable.

no hdmi is a deal breaker also.
Does samsung tab support dlna?
I am considering to go for transformer.

price was the big thing for me. $100 is a good chunk of money for something of similar specs.

[Q] Galaxy Tab 10.1 vs Asus Transformer

I currently own the Asus Transformer 16gb model. Is there anyone here who has opted for the Tab after using/owning the Transformer? If so what are your thoughts?
I feel the Transformer screen isn't very sensitive and feel i have to press pretty hard sometimes. Is the Tab any better?
Also I feel the Tab may have more of development community.
thanks!

briandap said:
I currently own the Asus Transformer 16gb model. Is there anyone here who has opted for the Tab after using/owning the Transformer? If so what are your thoughts?
I feel the Transformer screen isn't very sensitive and feel i have to press pretty hard sometimes. Is the Tab any better?
Also I feel the Tab may have more of development community.
thanks!
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This is a question for the general area really, but we are also very nice here in the SGT10.1 threads, so I will also answer your question. Touchscreen is awesome in responsiveness in my opinion, and I like it a lot more than the transformer. Also, the devs we have here, a couple so far, have been working on other devices, like my Captivate, and they are all top notch. Lots of breakthroughs in the last 3 days and we are awaiting a brand new kernel which will make this thing fly

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This is a question for the general area really, but we are also very nice here in the SGT10.1 threads, so I will also answer your question. Touchscreen is awesome in responsiveness in my opinion, and I like it a lot more than the transformer. Also, the devs we have here, a couple so far, have been working on other devices, like my Captivate, and they are all top notch. Lots of breakthroughs in the last 3 days and we are awaiting a brand new kernel which will make this thing fly
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Yeah sorry to throw it in DEV but I figured it included questions regarding ROMs and such My bad.
I can still return the Transformer to Amazon and get the Tab but I want to make sure it's worth keeping. Have they fixed the lag issues and such with the 3.1 update?

I don't own a transformer but the tab is amazing. The screen is amazing. And the dev support is already pretty heavy after only a fee days. The update for touchwiz also looks neat. If ur happy with stock honeycomb I think there is an option but its always good to have more then one choice.
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I owned a transformer for a week and returned it. I never regret a bit since I got the Galaxy tab 10.1 on the national launch date.
Reasons:
1. Build quality (big big difference)
2. GPS reception
3. Speaker quality
4. Display quality
5. Style (big difference)
To me these 5 reasons are well worthy to throw in an extra $100 and give up micro sd slot plus the mini HDMI slot.

hienkhieu said:
I owned a transformer for a week and returned it. I never regret a bit since I got the Galaxy tab 10.1 on the national launch date.
Reasons:
1. Build quality (big big difference)
2. GPS reception
3. Speaker quality
4. Display quality
5. Style (big difference)
To me these 5 reasons are well worthy to throw in an extra $100 and give up micro sd slot plus the mini HDMI slot.
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This is my list too. I owned it for about 2 weeks and returned it as well. I am not looking back. The speakers on the transformer suck compared to the 10.1. Display's are both good, but the TF has horrible light bleed, build quality is awesome. This will be the first device I've purchased in a long time that will not need to be exchanged or returned.

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Same for me, sold my Transformer the day the Sammy came out .... my only gripe is the damned typing lag on ANY website. This seems to be a Honeycomb issue because both the ASUS and the Samsung have it. Qualitywise (build) the Sammy is far far better.
However I can also understand why the Apple folks love their iPads. I played with one today at the mall and the scroll speed flipping between screens is untouchable by any android device and the 3rd party hardware available everywhere from Walmart to Brookstone is endless. You'll never see that happen to android because there are just too many incarnations. Problem is I hate "square" screens, they are so 90's. If the iPad had the same widescreen form factor as the Android devices I might have had to make a tough decision.
hienkhieu said:
I owned a transformer for a week and returned it. I never regret a bit since I got the Galaxy tab 10.1 on the national launch date.
Reasons:
1. Build quality (big big difference)
2. GPS reception
3. Speaker quality
4. Display quality
5. Style (big difference)
To me these 5 reasons are well worthy to throw in an extra $100 and give up micro sd slot plus the mini HDMI slot.
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I like them both
I own both devices and I love the tab so much that it is hard to put it down. The transformer get little attention now and will probably get sold, but I like it as well.
The colors and brightness on the tab are much better. I keep my brightness at about 30% and it is as bright as the transformer at 70%. Blues on the transformer are a little gray compared. The IPS display is great, but the view angles on the tab are still good.
The weight, thickness and build quality. The edges are smooth and feels nice in the hand. The transformer have sharp edges and tend to hurt after a while and is also a little heavier.
Sound quality is better and overall screen response is better
3.1 is smoother on the tab. I think Asus could have put a little more effort in 3.1 before releasing it. It seem they spent more time in adding the eye candy over performance.
I do like having the HDMI and microSD ports but in relity I never really used anything but the MicroSD slot, so I can live without them. I use online storage for my music file so the extra storage is no big deal. I don't need to keep tons of movies on the device and don't plan on using it as a media server for my home. It will be used to entertain me while away from home.
There a two apps on the transformer that I wished I had on the tab - MyLibrary and (MyCloud that include SplashTop - currently does not work on the tab).
The tab is about 1/2" shorter, but I think Asus added the extra length so that it matches with the dock.
The carmers - I am not planning on using the device to take photos or make movies, so the quality is no big deal for me.

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Same for me, sold my Transformer the day the Sammy came out .... my only gripe is the damned typing lag on ANY website. This seems to be a Honeycomb issue because both the ASUS and the Samsung have it. Qualitywise (build) the Sammy is far far better.
However I can also understand why the Apple folks love their iPads. I played with one today at the mall and the scroll speed flipping between screens is untouchable by any android device and the 3rd party hardware available everywhere from Walmart to Brookstone is endless. You'll never see that happen to android because there are just too many incarnations. Problem is I hate "square" screens, they are so 90's. If the iPad had the same widescreen form factor as the Android devices I might have had to make a tough decision.
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Switching from the Samsung keyboard to the stock android keyboard fixed alot of the lag. Switching to the dolphin HD browser fixed almost the rest of the lag. An overclocked kernel should take care of the rest.

I have to agree with everyone else here. Returned my Transformer and Dock for the Galaxy Tab. The weight alone sold me. But the camera quality and the display quality sealed it. You will not regret exchanging the Asus for this one.
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GT10.1 > Transformer > iPad 2 > Xoom (We all know it).

I returned my Transformer after a little over a week of having it and ordered the Tab 10.1. I have absolutely no regrets at all. The Transformer had light leak issues on 5 places on the screen, 0 with the Tab. The rounded corners on the Tab are much nicer than the sharp squared corners on the Transformer. The tab weighs less, and is thinner which makes it feel much better in the hand. The flash on the camera is nice, and having vibrate functionality is very nice when typing and getting alerts. The overall build quality seems nicer, so I really don't think you would regret returning your Transformer and going with a Tab 10.1.

I've done some reseaerch about all these tablets and yes the build quality on the Transformer laging a bit. I have one. The reason I went with the transformer is the micro sd and keyboard. Second reason, samsung lags on updates!!!!!. I have a captivate, have been running Andromeda3 since samsung doesn't update. Anyway, my screen seems really sensitive, I barely touch the screen and it registers. Yes speakers suck but other than that the transformer is very good, battery life is amazing, dock is nice. I don't have any light leaks either. I was this forum to check out rom dev. Compared to transformer one. One more note. If you want an Ipad get one not a clone
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I've done some reseaerch about all these tablets and yes the build quality on the Transformer laging a bit. I have one. The reason I went with the transformer is the micro sd and keyboard. Second reason, samsung lags on updates!!!!!. I have a captivate, have been running Andromeda3 since samsung doesn't update. Anyway, my screen seems really sensitive, I barely touch the screen and it registers. Yes speakers suck but other than that the transformer is very good, battery life is amazing, dock is nice. I don't have any light leaks either. I was this forum to check out rom dev. Compared to transformer one. One more note. If you want an Ipad get one not a clone
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I think that this thread has been tolerated as the development is just now stepping up. However, whether you are joking or not, its comments like yours that just make people mad.
Samsung lags in there updates? This we know. That's why we are here, hovering in the dev section, waiting for these awesome guys to work their magic and unlock the full potential of these devices.
Everyone here is open to comments from helpful users trying to help better the development community and make it a great place to learn and play with our toys. Your comment, and all of its opinions, need to be in the Section market "General" as it does not pertain to the Android development on the SGT10.1 platform.

I have a 10.1v and a friend has a Transformer...
The 10.1v bezel is much slimmer than the Transformer and easily to carry.
It is way lighter too, and it is very significant.
Only plus that the Transformer's screen looks sharper and brighter... at least to me.

I went from the TF to the GT and haven't looked back since. I also sold my iPad and haven missed it since getting the GT.
Basically, what it came down to is... If you already have a laptop or a netbook, get the GT. Otherwise, stick with the TF. Period!
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I had two Transformers, each for a couple weeks at a time. Now I've had my Galaxy Tab 10.1 for almost a week.
I think the ASUS Transformer is extremely competitive against the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and it was an agonizing decision between the two. They have very different strengths and weakness.
What I love about the Transformer is it's low price, the micro SD and mini HDMI ports, and keyboard dock that turns a tablet into a netbook. But the Transformer has very poor speakers and the bezel is extra wide and has corners, the tablet is somewhat uncomfortable in portrait mode.
The Galaxy Tab 10.1 is super light, great rounded bezel, just absolutely wonderful to hold. PLS display has great colors. But no micro SD, the accessories are very expensive and suck big compared to the ASUS keyboard dock. You'll spend $150 on the Samsung keyboard dock and adapters and still get much less functionality than with the same priced ASUS keyboard dock.
I know I'll need more than 16GB of storage. With the Transformer I was able to spend $400 for the 16GB model and use the 16GB micro SD card I already owned (you can get them on Amazon for $18-25). Lack of micro SD means I had to buy the $600 Galaxy Tab 10.1.
So why did I think the Galaxy Tab 10.1 was worth spending $200 more on? I mostly consume content with my tablet, watch videos, surf the web, read ebooks and mangas. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 is a pure tablet, it's light and very comfortable and has a great colorful display.
The Transformer is awesome because it can be a netbook. But I decided as cool as that is. I'm not sure Android is really up to the task of really being a laptop or even Windows netbook replacement. I'm not sure I'd see myself actually using that keyboard all that much, as I'd probably rather just get out the laptop instead.
I'm pretty happy with my decision now. Just really hope Samsung is more punctual with it's updates. Because Android 3.x really needs some updating.

I got the 32GB version of the TF. I like ASUS products and have a few of their laptops and have used their motherboards for years. So when the TF came out I got it right away. After playing with it for a few days I noticed how cheaply built it was and the first time I tried to watch a movie in the dark I freaked out! The backlight leakage was crazy bad. I took it back and got another one and it was worse. The backing of the TF was loose and made a creaking sound. The light leakage was worse than the first and the power button failed after 5 days. I took the second one back and got a third. Went to my car and went over it before I left Frys and it had all the same problems. Walked back in and got my money back. ASUS you drooped the ball big time with the TF.
After all that, I got the Galaxy 10.1 and was blown away with the total quality of the thing. Not one issue. Its perfect.
I love this thing and have used it every day.
Good luck to whoever got the TF. Hope yours doesn't have the issues my three different ones had.

I ditched my TF, i can tell you why in one word, Comfort.
I loved my TF, but compared to the Tab it feels bulky and heavy to hold.
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Samsung or Asus?

I've been comparing the SGT 10.1 with the Transformer for awhile now, and I'm not exactly sure which one to get :\ The Transformer has quite a few problems, whereas I haven't heard of some for the Tab. I just want to know which TABLET is better, no keyboards attached.
Obviously since I am posting on a SGT 10.1 thread, many will say Samsung. I have also posted on the Transformer to get better details.

Jardicel said:
I've been comparing the SGT 10.1 with the Transformer for awhile now, and I'm not exactly sure which one to get :\ The Transformer has quite a few problems, whereas I haven't heard of some for the Tab. I just want to know which TABLET is better, no keyboards attached.
Obviously since I am posting on a SGT 10.1 thread, many will say Samsung. I have also posted on the Transformer to get better details.
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For longevity and superior hardware, stick with SGT. Also the speakers and display on SGT is better than any current tablet in the market. Rest is up to you to decide which one you want to keep.
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Ive owned both and the transformer was a piece of junk in my opinion. Terrible build quality issues that went unaddressed (returned three times and still didn't have one that worked properly). The build quality is loads better on the galaxy tab, well worth the difference in price in my opinion.

I went through 5 Transformers because of light bleeding before giving up and purchasing a Galaxy Tab ($50 off...thanks Staples).
I still don't hate the Transformer. I think it would be a fantastic device if there weren't build quality issues.
I can say (as unbiased as I can) that the GT is better than the Transformer. The screen is noticeably better and the speakers are MUCH louder on my GT than any of the Transformers I had. The quality of the GT is much better and my GT has no light bleed whatsoever.
While it still annoys me that Samsung didn't put a microSD card slot on it, I think the other areas more than make up for this.
By the way, whoever at Samsung made the decision not to put a microSD slot on the GT should be fired. Such a small addition would have put the GT way out in front for best tablets IMHO. With no microSD card, its like they gave up just a few inches from the finish line.

Im with you on the sd card. But not a deal breaker for me

Sgt is so much better than the other tablets and you can always go to the store and compare them and yeah the sd card would have being a nice addittion

Light or heavy. That'a the question.

I owned the TF (well, 3 problematic ones) and currently own the GT (haven't looked back). Basically, if you're willing to put up with build quality issues (trust me, your TF WILL have something wrong with it), then you can even start comparing the two.
Bottom line is, if you already own a laptop/netbook, get the GT. The TF shines when docked, and even then, it falls short of the entry-level netbook (software issues).

I've had 2 TFs, one with power button sticking issues and other with microSD card reader issues.
Both returned and waiting for my tab to come soon.
TF was pretty dispointment as in quality control. What are the odds of getting bad ones back to back? (and the troubles I went through returning and getting new ones) I would think very hard before buying any ASUS products now and on.
I couldn't say much about the tab yet since I'm still waiting for it.

I have a transformer with no build issues. The asus is a little wider, a little thicker, and a little heavier than my SGT. But it runs the same apps just as well, and was $100 less than the SGT. Kind of like the iPad 1 to the SGT being an iPad2 in dimensions, yet the Asus has a better rear camera, microSD, and that great keyboard dock as an accessories.

I have both tablets and the only thing I like better about the transformer is the sd card. I got one of the better built transformers, with my only complaint being a small amount of light bleed in one corner, but I still do not trust the build quality of it in the long run. I returned a xoom (staples didn't have any galaxy tabs in stock at the time) to get the tab and plan to sell the transformer and rebuy another xoom before the staples $100 off deal ends. The xoom feels like it is a much higher quality piece of hardware, and I am willing to deal with the extra weight and slightly less vibrant screen for what I feel is a better built device.

So which one do you like better? Xoom or the SGT? Assuming the TF is out of the picture.
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So which one do you like better? Xoom or the SGT? Assuming the TF is out of the picture.
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Yeah same question. My brother is considering the xoom since i already have the SGT. SHould he?

I chose the GT after 3 exchanges on the Asus. The GT screen is just so much better than the xoom and I like that its thin and light Asus and xoom are pretty heavy.

I can't comment on ASUS vs SGT, but as for the Xoom vs SGT you really have to decide what you're going to be using the tablet for.
Xoom is going to give you 2x flash space for the same money, plus the device is expandable with an SD card, HDMI, and USB host plugs. And as others have mentioned, the Xoom is built like a tank compared to other tablets.
That being said, the screen on the SGT is amazing. Go to staples and compare, you'll see. The Xoom will look washed out, whereas the SGT will be bright and vibrant. The SGT is also super thin and light. If you plan on holding your tablet a lot, this is important.
I went with the SGT because I don't need the HDMI and USB ports. I also don't put much media on it because I stream everything, so the flash space and SD card are all but useless to me. And lastly, I've very careful with my devices. My phones have always gone naked and have never had a screen scratch, thus I choose light weight and thinness over stronger materials. The only selling point of the Xoom that was appealing to me over the SGT is the fact that it is the Nexus of the tablets and will see Android updates years before we do.
Bottom line? Xoom or SGT, you'll be happy either way

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A buddy of mine has had both and he said the Transformer was crap.
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I have the sgt and my broter has the xoom. I personaly like the sgt better because it is ligter, the speekers are better and the screen looks less washed out. Although with the xom you get much more space to put movies and music on.

I was considering both but after the stories I've heard about the Asus I was swayed with the SGT. The build quality issues on the Asus deterred me from getting that one wasn't going to risk having to go through 1+ devices to find the perfect one, saying that the SGT could prove to be the same, here's hoping there is nothing wrong with it when it arrives.

GTab 32GB $529.99 on eBay right now. Brand new! Just saw it under my daily deals. LOL You guys are lucky.
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Galaxy Tab 10.1 or 8.9?

Hi guys, I was wondering which screen size is optimal for the GT - the 10.1 or 8.9?
I intend to use my tablet for content creation (docs etc) as much as content consumption. So would the extra 1.2 screen real estate make much of a difference?
Which one do you personally prefer and what are the reasons (easier to hold, more portable etc)? Thanks

dpakrr said:
Hi guys, I was wondering which screen size is optimal for the GT - the 10.1 or 8.9?
I intend to use my tablet for content creation (docs etc) as much as content consumption. So would the extra 1.2 screen real estate make much of a difference?
Which one do you personally prefer and what are the reasons (easier to hold, more portable etc)? Thanks
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The portability isnt much different since neither can fit in your pocket.
I like the bigger screen, its a more optimal tablet size in my opinion. (It's been said by others to be the "perfect size for a tablet")
The dev work for the 10.1 is MUCH greater (ROMs, Apps, Support).

I haven't had a play around with a 8.9 but 10.1 will be much cheaper. And I read tons of uni research fairly easily on my 10.1
But then the 8.9 might have voice/dialer features. I much prefer 10.1 screen to the sony tablets smaller screen.

After seeing the 8.9 at Best Buy, I purchased the 10.1.
1.2" might seem negligible but IMO you'd enjoy more on the bigger screen (aside from the theoretically better screen quality of the 8.9).

lol i had two tabs open, one with the 10.1 16gb wifi model and one with the 8.9 3g 16gb model. you guys convinced me to go for the 10.1 (plus the fact that its 200 bucks cheaper here lol). bought it, cant wait to receive it now. thanks!

dpakrr said:
lol i had two tabs open, one with the 10.1 16gb wifi model and one with the 8.9 3g 16gb model. you guys convinced me to go for the 10.1 (plus the fact that its 200 bucks cheaper here lol). bought it, cant wait to receive it now. thanks!
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Sure thing bro.

Bluemotion said:
I haven't had a play around with a 8.9 but 10.1 will be much cheaper. And I read tons of uni research fairly easily on my 10.1
But then the 8.9 might have voice/dialer features. I much prefer 10.1 screen to the sony tablets smaller screen.
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The 8.9 is actually cheaper, but not by much. As for the dialer, that remains to be seen. Video and articles from May said it was going to have a dialer but people that just bought them say it's either not present or inactive. Other than screen size and location of the speakers, the internals are the same between the two. I played with a 8.9 and own a 10.1. I liked the feel of the 8.9 but I like the bigger screen on the 10.1 as I use it a lot for video, surfing, and reading. I've been waiting for a 10.1 3G from the UK for over a month. They're receiving stock on Monday and it'll ship out the same day. All the 32GB & 64GB 3G's have been pushed back for over a month in the UK and units are just now being received from Samsung. They'll have the latest firmware. It'll be intersting to see if any updates were made that impact the dialer (or anything else for that matter).

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The 8.9 is actually cheaper, but not by much. As for the dialer, that remains to be seen. Video and articles from May said it was going to have a dialer but people that just bought them say it's either not present or inactive. Other than screen size and location of the speakers, the internals are the same between the two. I played with a 8.9 and own a 10.1. I liked the feel of the 8.9 but I like the bigger screen on the 10.1 as I use it a lot for video, surfing, and reading. I've been waiting for a 10.1 3G from the UK for over a month. They're receiving stock on Monday and it'll ship out the same day. All the 32GB & 64GB 3G's have been pushed back for over a month in the UK and units are just now being received from Samsung. They'll have the latest firmware. It'll be intersting to see if any updates were made that impact the dialer (or anything else for that matter).
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Oh I thought it would sellat a higher price. I think I read somewhere there was going to be a ridiculous markup especially for the UK (me). Regarding dialer update, I tend not to hold my breathe for manufacturer updates. But i would not mind being pleasantly surprised.

I've had my 8.9 since Wednesday and I must say I am enjoying it better than I thought I would. Had the 10.1 Toshiba Thrive and returned it after a few days. Browser seemed alot slower on it and had a tendency to "hiccup" when scrolling. The textured back of the Thrive I feel in love with due to its easy grip, however after holding the device for an extended period because if its size began to feel very heavy and brick like. My Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9 feels great, not to mention its easier for me to type than on a 10.1 screen. The additional 1.2 of real estate may not seem alot however for me anyhow it makes all the difference when typing.
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I actually replaced my 10.1 for 8.9, i like the 8.9 size, easier to hold in bed and on sofa and i think easier to type on with two thumps.... Portability was the main reason....

Same here, I like the feel of the 8.9, can hold with one hand and not tire. I also own the Acer 10.1 and compared to size, 8.9 is great.
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hello!!
I just bought the 8.9 and I am delighted to 10.1 and me too much (the taste and color) I do not regret my choice at all

i just got rid of the 10.1 to replace it with 8.9 but i'm going to wait for the 7.7 instead

I just got an 8.9 Friday. I held it at Best Buy and fell in love. I didn't need it at all since it became my 6th tablet (I have a problem, I know.); but I was so floored by holding it, I could not resist. I think how special this form factor is somewhat lost on people who don't own 10 inch tablets. I was completely dismissive of this product from looking at pictures and seeing it was not much smaller than the 10.1, but then I held it. The first thing that came to mind was Jobs' comment that the reduction in weight and thickness made the iPad 2 a categorically different experience from the original. I have an original iPad and have held many iPad 2's and never felt that way about them. I feel that way about the 8.9 in comparison to the other tablets I have.
My recommendation to anyone thinking about this product is to go hold one for at least 15-30 minutes. Change orientation a few times. Type on the keyboard in portrait orientation. If you plan on using your tablet on a surface with a keyboard case or dock, then get the 10.1. If you plan on holding the tablet on the couch or in bed, get the 8.9. It disappoints me that so many bloggers/journalists are treating tablets like flat screen TVs in price/size discussions but don't go into the nuanced discussion that even exists when choosing a TV size (room size, viewing distance, wall mount vs stand).
We'll see what the 7.7 brings to the discussion, but right now 8.9 is my favorite for holding. I use my original 7 as my phone so I don't really consider it part of the tablet discussion and the Galaxy Note seems better suited for phone duty. I don't think 7 is a compelling consumption or creation size unless you have the need to always have the device on your person.

Thumbs Up For A Great Review...
RuzaRoos said:
I just got an 8.9 Friday. I held it at Best Buy and fell in love. I didn't need it at all since it became my 6th tablet (I have a problem, I know.); but I was so floored by holding it, I could not resist. I think how special this form factor is somewhat lost on people who don't own 10 inch tablets. I was completely dismissive of this product from looking at pictures and seeing it was not much smaller than the 10.1, but then I held it. The first thing that came to mind was Jobs' comment that the reduction in weight and thickness made the iPad 2 a categorically different experience from the original. I have an original iPad and have held many iPad 2's and never felt that way about them. I feel that way about the 8.9 in comparison to the other tablets I have.
My recommendation to anyone thinking about this product is to go hold one for at least 15-30 minutes. Change orientation a few times. Type on the keyboard in portrait orientation. If you plan on using your tablet on a surface with a keyboard case or dock, then get the 10.1. If you plan on holding the tablet on the couch or in bed, get the 8.9. It disappoints me that so many bloggers/journalists are treating tablets like flat screen TVs in price/size discussions but don't go into the nuanced discussion that even exists when choosing a TV size (room size, viewing distance, wall mount vs stand).
We'll see what the 7.7 brings to the discussion, but right now 8.9 is my favorite for holding. I use my original 7 as my phone so I don't really consider it part of the tablet discussion and the Galaxy Note seems better suited for phone duty. I don't think 7 is a compelling consumption or creation size unless you have the need to always have the device on your person.
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I feel the exact same way. Thanks for the great review of this device. I fell in love with mine the moment I held it. It just feels right in the hands. With my Toshiba Thrive 10.1 (which I promptly returned to Best Buy), it got tiresome after a little while of holding it. The 8.9 is an awesome tablet as-is, but I know as soon as we get a dedicated forum and some of the most awesomeness and dedicated devs to take their time and crank out some of the hottest ROMS this Tab will become even better.
And you hit it dead on with the similarities to flat screens I myself have noticed how some have compared tablets to TVs. There's just no comparison because I sure as heck aint gonna hold my 42" flat screen in my hand and compare it to a tab...LOL.

I purchased the 10.1 too, but I sometimes feel it was heavy.

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The portability isnt much different since neither can fit in your pocket.
I like the bigger screen, its a more optimal tablet size in my opinion. (It's been said by others to be the "perfect size for a tablet")
The dev work for the 10.1 is MUCH greater (ROMs, Apps, Support).
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Have you not seen my custom pockets that can fit anything up to 32" ?
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Since I like to get more for my money (about $64 an inch) I chose the 10.1.
All jokes aside, I want the biggest screen I can get. It doesn't make any sense that smartphones are making screens bigger yet we want our tablet screens to get smaller. The 7.7 Tab just sounds ridiculous when compared to getting the GTab 10.1.
MODS - sorry for double posting, thought I was on the same post.
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Having had time using both, I ultimately went for the 8.9 3G. I can confirm for sure that does NOT have a GSM dialer (present inside root, but not active to the user). That said, it's not that big of an issue for me. Pairing up GroveIP with my Google voice works just fine for the odd tablet based phone call. Besides that, the 8.9 teamed up with my trusty SGS2 makes for a pretty fearsome combo on-the-go.
As for th 8.9 itself, it just feels better to hold in my opinion. It has a much more solid construction and premium feel. Browsing the web in portrait is such a joy, especially when thumb-typing is made just that little bit easier. Speaking of which, this whole post was typed up on my 8.9
The rubberized back of the 8.9 is awesome btw.
I will admitted that I was very tempted to wait for the 7.7 and/or the Note, but for now, I'm very happy with my 8.9/SGS2 duo.

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The rubberized back of the 8.9 is awesome btw.
I will admitted that I was very tempted to wait for the 7.7 and/or the Note, but for now, I'm very happy with my 8.9/SGS2 duo.
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My galaxy tab 10.1 from Egypt has black rubbrized back also . and you are right it is much more better than the shiny cheap white back
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