[Q] Tf101 or galaxy tab 10.1(the dilemma) - Eee Pad Transformer General

Guys!
I had the Transformer for about 3 days now,as much as i love it,something in my heart is telling to return it and wait for the galaxy tab 10.1
My ISSUES
1. I have light bleed and 000000000000000.1 dead pixel on my,which doesnt really border me.
2.My wife said is too wide.
Guys! what should i do?

Well, if you're smart, you know the wife is the boss.
So there ya go.

my wife tells me mine is too wide all the time!

Crimton said:
my wife tells me mine is too wide all the time!
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Me Toohttp://media.xda-developers.com/images/icons/icon11.gif

if you don't need the keyboard, and don't mind not having stock honeycomb and being at samsungs mercy for updates, then go for the GTab.

Do what works for you and fits your needs best. Its personal depending on what you want/need. I'm not sure how forum members can help make the decision for you.
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Hmm, if Galaxy Tab 10.1 also has Tegra 2, then I might be slightly more interested in the Transformer due to its keyboard dock, USB and HDMI. But again, my heart is already sold out for the 10.1's PLS display. So, its a still tough choice for me

What is the difference between IPS and PLS?
Because the transformer IPS look good.
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Hmm, if Galaxy Tab 10.1 also has Tegra 2, then I might be slightly more interested in the Transformer due to its keyboard dock, USB and HDMI. But again, my heart is already sold out for the 10.1's PLS display. So, its a still tough choice for me
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dmoney94 said:
Guys!
I had the Transformer for about 3 days now,as much as i love it,something in my heart is telling to return it and wait for the galaxy tab 10.1
My ISSUES
1. I have light bleed and 000000000000000.1 dead pixel on my,which doesnt really border me.
2.My wife said is too wide.
Guys! what should i do?
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1. Do you know that light bleed is more common than you think, right? even my iPad 2 (as test) have an awesome screen with light bleed. What if the Galaxy Tab also have light bleed?
2. I agree, it's very wide, even wider than Xoom. At least for me this is not a problem, is still very portable and light as iPad 1.

dmoney94 said:
What is the difference between IPS and PLS?
Because the transformer IPS look good.
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IPS looks very good.
Regarding PLS, you can find some info here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/01/samsung-touts-super-pls-display-as-the-evolution-of-ips-on-smart/

dmoney94 said:
What is the difference between IPS and PLS?
Because the transformer IPS look good.
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You might want to look at these videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdu5PVjCGo0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1IJHYr5UYk

I really like both tablets and initially I was leaning towards the GT10.1. But I flipped over to the Transformer because of how well the keyboard dock works. The keyboard, touch pad, USB ports, extra SD slot, the Transformer becomes a netbook when you need it.
Second thing that swayed me to ASUS was Samsung's reputation for being very slow with updates. The GT10.1 starts out with vanilla Honeycomb, but eventually it'll get TouchWiz'ed and I imagine this will create big delays with Android updates in the future. The Transformer has only light changes and hopefully Android updates will be more timely.
Getting those Android updates as quickly as possible are important considering how new this Android tablet OS is.
What I still like about the GT10.1 though is how light it is. I like it's look and style more as well.
The PLS display sounds nice and is in the GT10.1's favor. But I get the impression it may not be much of a difference between it an IPS. Viewing angles are suppose to be a little better.
I have 11 days to decide to keep the Transformer. But I think I will. Being $100 cheaper also helps the Transformer too.

+ nicer sexier form factor
- skinned ui (touch wiz)
- Samsung updates = fail
Edit: after looking at the Samsung tab, it looks like a keyboard dock could be very possible since it's got a dock port in the same location as the Asus. However the Asus was specifically designed with a wide bezel to allow for a decent sized keyboard.

I think to actually have a dock like the Transformer, a tablet needs the locking slots alongside the port to keep the screen in place, especially when the combo is closed. So it's not likely something any of the upcoming tablets have as an option, unless I'm missing something.

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my wife tells me mine is too wide all the time!
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That's what she said!
(Not sure if this is inappropriate for this forum or not)

dark_aura said:
IPS looks very good.
Regarding PLS, you can find some info here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/01/samsung-touts-super-pls-display-as-the-evolution-of-ips-on-smart/
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wow that girl is really cute!
if you need the keyboard then stick to the transformer. I hate samsung and their lack of updates. I own a galaxy tab and though I love it so much, I cant stand Samsung. for me, its a no brainer, i need the keyboard for typing papers, notes and things of that sort. I dont really have a laptop anymore since i gave my macbook pro to my mom so i use tablets instead. everyone is raving about the asus display so i am sure it will be fine and i dont really care about PLS right now. but....
i havent actually touched one so i dont really know how its gonna feel in my hands since it is wider than most tablets. i think its worth the tradeoff since you can dock it and have an almost full-sized keyboard.

I don't think the keyboard is a big factor for me, i don't need it.

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I don't think the keyboard is a big factor for me, i don't need it.
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If you won't be using a keyboard dock. Then I think things lean more towards the Galaxy Tab because of it's lighter weight, PLS display, thinness, and style.
And Touch Wiz UX does look like it has some nice points to it. Just pray Samsung can can do better with tablet updates than it has with phone updates.
I'd probably go with the Galaxy Tab if you are not interested in the Transformers keyboard dock. And can survive waiting another 5 or 6 weeks.

Dunno why you guys are dissing Samsung over updates. There have been at least over 6 updates for the Galaxy S, disregarding regions. They were also the first to release Gingerbread to non-Google mobile phones.

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Dunno why you guys are dissing Samsung over updates. There have been at least over 6 updates for the Galaxy S, disregarding regions. They were also the first to release Gingerbread to non-Google mobile phones.
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And bunch of people I know who had stock galaxy s phones that did the stock update landed with bricked devices. They know what they are doing, so definitely not my friends fault lol.

Related

Returned My 10.1v

Just returned my Galaxy Tab 10.1v to Vodafone Ireland.. had it a total of 3 days.. received 2pm Monday by 9am this morning.. the glass was lifting from the body of the tab at the bottom Left Hand corner.. the glue wasn't holding up.. if it was that bad after 3 days there was no way I was gonna keep it..
I've asked for a full refund.. I might wait now for the 10.1 release or try the Eee Pad Transformer..
Unfortunately have couple a few of the same complaints about the screen popping out of the bezel with the 10.1 Google IO tablets as well.
I have done quite a bit of research and I get surprised that people are comparing the Transformer with the Tab 10.1. It appears to me the tab is a clear winner, but I will plead ignorance on this.
What are the reasons you would buy the transformer over the tab?
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I have done quite a bit of research and I get surprised that people are comparing the Transformer with the Tab 10.1. It appears to me the tab is a clear winner, but I will plead ignorance on this.
What are the reasons you would buy the transformer over the tab?
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what are the reason you'd buy the tab over the transformer?
pros of transformer
1. keyboard dock with extra battery, ports and trackpad
2. ports on the device(usb, hdmi, sd card)
3. cheaper
4. not made by samsung(well okay, that's just personal preference I guess)
pros of the tab
1. weighs less
to me, the transformer is the clear winner. however, I got a tab for free at i/o and, of course, it's great. if I was going to pay for it though, I'd go with the transformer.
Edit: if we're talking about the 10.1v here, it doesn't even weigh less so I don't see any reason why you'd buy it.
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Unfortunately have couple a few of the same complaints about the screen popping out of the bezel with the 10.1 Google IO tablets as well.
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same here.. it sucks. hopefully nothing too serious happens
smaskell said:
what are the reason you'd buy the tab over the transformer?
pros of transformer
1. keyboard dock with extra battery, ports and trackpad
2. ports on the device(usb, hdmi, sd card)
3. cheaper
4. not made by samsung(well okay, that's just personal preference I guess)
pros of the tab
1. weighs less
to me, the transformer is the clear winner. however, I got a tab for free at i/o and, of course, it's great. if I was going to pay for it though, I'd go with the transformer.
Edit: if we're talking about the 10.1v here, it doesn't even weigh less so I don't see any reason why you'd buy it.
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you forgot some poinz:
pros of the tab:
much better display
better built quality
thinner
winner
from what I've seen, the display on the transformer is pretty good. maybe not as good as the galaxy tab but still. and I don't know about the build quality.. my i/o tab is all cheap plastic(just like everything samsung makes) and it's already coming apart(see last post). however, it is thinner. I will give you that one. The 10.1v isn't, but the 10.1 is. I was kind of including that as part of the weight thing though. I don't see the thinness being a big advantage. it's not like I'm going to be keeping it in my pocket or anything. maybe that's just me though.
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I have done quite a bit of research and I get surprised that people are comparing the Transformer with the Tab 10.1. It appears to me the tab is a clear winner, but I will plead ignorance on this.
What are the reasons you would buy the transformer over the tab?
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I had a Transformer and returned it in anticipation for the Galaxy Tab. However here are some of the pros I see with the Transformer.
+ $100 cheaper
+ microSD slot (might have to buy an expensive 3G Galaxy Tab for micro SD)
+ mini HDMI port
+ micro USB port
+ Keyboard dock converts tablet to netbook and extends battery to 16 hours.
I'm giving up a lot just for the Galaxy Tab's lighter weight and sleeker look. I think the Transformer is just ugly. I hope the Galaxy Tab is worth it.
But I'm about to cancel my JR.com pre-order. Think I might be safer just buying it from Best Buy in case this turns out to be yet another tablet that doesn't live up to expectations and has to be returned.
Hate to say it, but I want a tablet that feels like it's quality built. The Xoom felt quality, just way too heavy. The Transformer felt and looked cheap. The Samsung GT looks quality, but... crossing my fingers. Hope these Android manufactures don't make me go out and buy an iPad 2 after all this waiting.
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what are the reason you'd buy the tab over the transformer?
pros of transformer
1. keyboard dock with extra battery, ports and trackpad
2. ports on the device(usb, hdmi, sd card)
3. cheaper
4. not made by samsung(well okay, that's just personal preference I guess)
pros of the tab
1. weighs less
to me, the transformer is the clear winner. however, I got a tab for free at i/o and, of course, it's great. if I was going to pay for it though, I'd go with the transformer.
Edit: if we're talking about the 10.1v here, it doesn't even weigh less so I don't see any reason why you'd buy it.
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You forgot the all important
2. Has 3G
smaskell said:
what are the reason you'd buy the tab over the transformer?
pros of transformer
1. keyboard dock with extra battery, ports and trackpad
2. ports on the device(usb, hdmi, sd card)
3. cheaper
4. not made by samsung(well okay, that's just personal preference I guess)
pros of the tab
1. weighs less
to me, the transformer is the clear winner. however, I got a tab for free at i/o and, of course, it's great. if I was going to pay for it though, I'd go with the transformer.
Edit: if we're talking about the 10.1v here, it doesn't even weigh less so I don't see any reason why you'd buy it.
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I hate sounding like one of "those" people, but if I have a laptop then why would I want a keyboard for my tablet? Anyway, that's my personal preference and I understand it's a big reason people want the transformer, but for $150 more it's just out of the question for me.
Ports? The tab, while it does not have specific HDMI/USB ports, will have HDMI & USB connectors. Unfortunately you'll have to shell out some bucks (I'd guess around $30) for an HDMI connector.
The official (non-IO model) 10.1 may have an SDCard slot, but no one knows for sure, yet.
Weighs less and you missed that it is much thinner. Form factor is huge when it comes to a device that you're holding during 90% of its usage.
I dunno -- if the tab wasnt coming out I would be getting a Transformer. I'm just not sold after seeing the transformer in action.
And as an Android enthusiast it pains me to say this, but having TouchWiz layered over Honeycomb may boost the user-experience. I played with the Xoom for a week and really thought that if a manufacturer layered a UI/UX over top of Honeycomb it would have been a MUCH better experience.
So build quality issues like all the other tablets out there now...check
Can't play hi def video like all the other android tablets out there now..check
iPad2 here I come!!! Just gotta find a good microsoft office app and it is the perfect tablet! Definitely superior to all the current tablets or there now (please don't quote hardware specs, if the hardware and software worked well together there wouldn't be all these threads out on android tablet forums)
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Edit: if we're talking about the 10.1v here, it doesn't even weigh less so I don't see any reason why you'd buy it.
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The 10.1v also has a weight of only 595g .
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The 10.1v also has a weight of only 595g .
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weighed mine on digital kitchen scales 574g.. anyway at the beginning of the thread i said was gonna go for the transformer... after watching hundreds of youtube videos on it.. I have changed my mind.. will wait and see what the 10.1 is like in terms of quality and price (3G version when it's out)

[Review] Asus EEEPad Transformer VS Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1

I have seen a few questions on this forum asking if they should get the TF or wait for something like the new Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1. Well, I made a video comparing the two tablets. Hopefully this will help people make a better informed decision. Check it out and let me know what you think. For those undecided, which are you going to get?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2F9yxpQZ40
http://asustransform.com/2011/06/09/video-asus-eeepad-transformer-vs-samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-fight/
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Good job!
I thought we couldn't over clock the transformer yet on 3.1 though, because the source wasn't available?
I think the image quality is much better on GT.
Again fantastic comparison. This is the comment I left on Youtube:
Thank you so much for this comparison, really help but still dont know which. Just going to wait to play with both in store before making up my mind. Would love the build and form of Galaxy with the abilities of the Transformer. Ahhhhh perfect world. Thanks again.
In the end, it's still HoneyComb - what you get is a different hardward, style design superior to Ipad2, thinner, sleeker, lighter than any tablet in the market now...but the same price Ipad2
Anyway, I almost pulled the trigger and but...wondering what I'm doing here, first Gtablet, sold it for losing $100 (to use for 2 months), now TF,,,I'm very pleased with TF and with GalaxyTab 10.1,,,what will I get? probably little different CPU, graphic, and weight, form design...TF serves me well for what I need to do while in my couch or on my bed!
I passed!
good luck everyone!
As a tablet there's not much between them,its the dock and the extra functionality you get with that ,which makes the TF stand out from any other android tablet,long form writting, extra storage,extra battery and use of usb devices are great but being able to charge my mobile from the dock wins it hands down for me
DESIRE HD using leedroid. ASUS TRANSFORMER using prime
If you want the #2 iPad on the market the Galaxy is your best bet. If you want the best Android tablet on the market then the Tranformer is it. Why? Android is about an alternative to iOS for those who want more functionality from their tablets. Looks like Samsung shot right at the iPad2 on specs, and aimed just slightly higher but not too far. Slightly thinner. Slightly larger battery. 3mp camera? Sounds like a spec picked just so in 6 months they can come out with a new model carrying a 5mp camera, then 6 months later an 8mp camera.
what is up with ASUS screen? it is supposed to be IPS superior to any other? I think they did something similar with color profiles on AMOLED screens to Tab too. as reviewer mentions, colors look more saturated. do you think ASUS would step up the competition, and change it in future updates to match color profiles of Samsung?
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what is up with ASUS screen? it is supposed to be IPS superior to any other? I think they did something similar with color profiles on AMOLED screens to Tab too. as reviewer mentions, colors look more saturated. do you think ASUS would step up the competition, and change it in future updates to match color profiles of Samsung?
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Who is to say that Samsung's saturated colors are "better?" Ideal would be an end-user control like the one you get on your TeeVee set, but generally, you want your display to represent some kind of baseline reality. Samsung picks a more vivid one. I guess it's up to the consumer to choose.
glg
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what is up with ASUS screen? it is supposed to be IPS superior to any other? I think they did something similar with color profiles on AMOLED screens to Tab too. as reviewer mentions, colors look more saturated. do you think ASUS would step up the competition, and change it in future updates to match color profiles of Samsung?
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I hope not the Samsung is oversaturated. It is unnatural. Try displaying a persons picture on the screen
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king_dani said:
what is up with ASUS screen? it is supposed to be IPS superior to any other? I think they did something similar with color profiles on AMOLED screens to Tab too. as reviewer mentions, colors look more saturated. do you think ASUS would step up the competition, and change it in future updates to match color profiles of Samsung?
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Well, apparently the 10.1 Galaxy Tab is using new SuperPLS screens which is a step above the IPS panels.
Although, until three days ago this was completely unknown to me as well. Nobody seems to be excited by this screen, Samsung isn't even making a big deal out of it. I don't get it, the SuperAMOLED screens on the Galaxy S phones of last year were such a big part of the phone's marketing, but nobody mentions the Tab's screen.
But I agree with others, if SuperPLS is as saturated as Sammie's SuperAMOLED panels then I'm not sure I'd want one. The Galaxy S phones look amazing when your first pick them up but I actually dislike the overly saturated colours, it seems unnatural and hurts my eyes almost.
sometimes the over saturation is a good thing. but i guess it just depends on the consumer as someone stated. i remember that on the nexus a dev was able to build an app that adjusted the colors of the screen. maybe if there was something like that for the TF then we could tweak it a little. overall im pleased with the screen, you only see a difference when you put it right next to the galaxy tab. but on its own, it looks great.
Thanks for the compare, although I think to be relevant to most here, the Samsung needs to be updated to 3.1, as that's on the retail product. An updated compare would be helpful.
Also on many people's mind is the Tegra 2's lackluster performance on high profile 720p MKVs. Samsung has traditionally had strong multimedia support, as to wit its 5" PMPs as well as the 7" GalTab. I'm curious if Samsung has added native support for MKV for the native player, or is it still limited to only MP4 support. Again, a compare with a retail 3.1 version would be appreciated.
Meh the screen isn't that big of a deal. The only thing the Tab has going for itself is its size. But I need a MicroSD so I went with the TF.
Nice comparison
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what is up with ASUS screen? it is supposed to be IPS superior to any other? I think they did something similar with color profiles on AMOLED screens to Tab too. as reviewer mentions, colors look more saturated. do you think ASUS would step up the competition, and change it in future updates to match color profiles of Samsung?
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I hope Asus never gives us the Vivid mode on the 10.1. I prefer the colors on the TF. Its like the TVs at Best Buys where all are in Vivid mode aka cartoon mode.....Nasty
I think the screen on the Transformer looks pretty washed out. At least next to the 10.1. I will be returning my TF for it. The TF is an awesome tablet but I like the idea of a lighter and thinner tablet. Will I miss the SD card slot? Actually, no. I took my 16GB out of the TF a couple days ago for some reason and have yet to need it. The remote desktop client has been more than helpful for when I want to watch a movie or netflix.
A few other reasons for me choosing the 10.1 are the fact that I can purchase an adapter today to use for microSD, HDMI, and USB. The USB adapter is most important as I already have a beautiful Acer Timeline 13.3 laptop. With the TF, I couldn't get a USB port without turning it into a laptop. One other reason off the top of my head is the fact that I will be able to USB charge it from my computer while I use it. This was a big let down for me when using the TF.
It may sound like I'm bashing the TF pretty hard right now, but I really do like it and for the price, it still can't be beat.
The thing about the GT is it's just another Android tablet, minus sd card slot, minus USB ports, minus full keyboard functionality.
The only plus it had is added saturation, but that's like adding saturation to a good photo just because you want to change it, not because it needs it.
All this and minus $100/£100 in you wallet.
I don't know why people would even consider one over a Transformer
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The thing about the GT is it's just another Android tablet, minus sd card slot, minus USB ports, minus full keyboard functionality.
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Is that really a fair comparison?
The Transformer doesn't have a full SD slot or keyboard unless you pay an additional $150 for the dock, which will transform your Transformer into a thicker, heavier and decidedly un-tablet like device.
People need to dial down their fanboy tendencies up in here, seriously.
it's fair comparison and that's why the name is Transformer, but ppl are given choice not to unleash the 'beast'
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Go for the Eeepad or wait for the Galaxy Tab 10.1?

Im conidering a tablet but torn between the ASUS eeePad Transformer and the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1.
Without doubt the Samsung has the wow factor, but they're making such a hash of releasing it by all accounts. Hardware specs don't appear to be fully finalised, it appears the thing version won't have a memory card slot, the camera only 3MP and it's still not released and there's no release date for the UK.
The ASUS meanwhile according to the videos I've seen have excellent sound which should be good for media playback.
Im worried about the lack of 3G but remember I could use my Galaxy S as a WiFi hotspot for those times I need to use this on the go.
The ASUS is released, has 3.1, some decent features and a great price.
Is there any reason I should wait for the Samsung and not get the ASUS? Is there any other tablet that comes close for the price? I was looking at the Xoom, and the Flywer and everything in between, but they all seemed to be much more expensive.
What do you guys think?
Does the Eeepad also support DivX playback?
Thanks
Simon
For divx it's ok but for HD videos all the tegra 2 tablets can't handle them very well.
Just want to be sure you won't expect much about it. That said, the transformer has a nice ips screen but with some bleeds (related to ips technology) and a microsd slot. The galaxy tab have no microsd slot.
The sound on the asus is not very good, I can't speak about the galaxy tab on this front.
Performance wise all tegra 2 tablets are more or less the same what you should look at are expansion ports, form factor and screen. So ask yourself what you want.
Hope that helps.
bottom line is if you want android but with an ipad formfactor in the sense of no built in expandibility but thin and light then go samsung.
If oyu want something that is less expensive, had HDMi and microsd built in, is cheaper, and has optional keyboard dock turning it into a longer battery life android netbook with usb ports and full sd card slot, then Go Asus. Asus however will be a bit heavier and thicker and from my experience the build quality will suffer a bit compared to the samsung.
I just read the Anandtech Review on the Galaxy Tab 10.1.The 10.1 wins with its thin form factor, weight and IPAD like contours, while the TF beats out the 10.1 on all benchmarks and battery life and the convenience of the dock.
I'm in the same situation as the OP with regards to the Samsung and the Asus (I've recently returned a TF), I'm now waiting for Samsung to release definitive specs and price here in the UK. I've just returned from my local PC World, they've no news on the GT 10.1 at all. Whilst I was there I had a look at the range of tablets on display and I have to say the Transformer looked better than I remember.
Yep, form factor definatley goes to Samsung, along with build quality.
As for Asus, its still a great looking tablet, and comfortable to hold in my opinion. Has the HDMI, memory card slot, ability to be docked, and is $100 less. Its sort of a no brainer for me, but depends what you want to do with it.
For some of the reasons mentioned by aibo I would wait for a tegra-3 tablet. This is especially true if you are interested in any type of HD media. The more I play with my TF the more I realize the tegra-2 is just underpowered trying to play any kind of HD content with HD sound. Don't get me wrong I love my TF and knowing what I know now if I really wanted to wait I would also wait for a tegra-3 Asus.
See the should I wait for the tegra-3 thread fo even more reasons to wait.
All the more reason to get the Asus. Get base model which is 399. Then next year give it to family or sell it for 200 and get a kalel tegra 3
This way you get to enjoy a tablet for a year and the 100 you save plus selling your used Asus will get you most of the way to the latest and greatest.
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sjdean said:
Without doubt the Samsung has the wow factor,
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How can the GT have a WOW factor? it's just the same as the Xoom, the Acer Iconia, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc unless of course you mean WOW in Greek: Wimadia, Objectori, Wimbararia (The same as all the rest)
In the Galaxy Tab forum you ask
sjdean said:
Galaxy Tab: Is it Worth It?
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Of course it's not; it has a lot less features than the Transformer, it's a no brainer
checkbox111 said:
How can the GT have a WOW factor?
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It is thinner and lighter than the iPad2. That's it.
4dthinker said:
It is thinner and lighter than the iPad2. That's it.
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And +$100 more. Is it really worth it? The TF101 is pretty light as it is already.
With +$100 more you can get yourself a TF101 32GB AND A MicroSD slot whereas $499.99 Galaxy Tab 10.1 you'll get 16GB without a MicroSD.
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It is thinner and lighter than the iPad2. That's it.
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I bet you think size 0 women a sexy
Also, according to Anandtech, 10.1 doesn't have as much glare on the screen as the Transformer. I won't go into color saturation as that's preference of the user.
Too much speculating and assumptions in these threads. I doubt many here have actually had both in hand.
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Also, according to Anandtech, 10.1 doesn't have as much glare on the screen as the Transformer. I won't go into color saturation as that's preference of the user.
Too much speculating and assumptions in these threads. I doubt many here have actually had both in hand.
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supercurio does, https://twitter.com/#!/supercurio he has been comparing the two devices
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supercurio does, https://twitter.com/#!/supercurio he has been comparing the two devices
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I meant more along in this specific thread. Perhaps OP should also post this in the Galaxy Tab 10.1 forums as well as there are some users that have jumped ship from the Transformer to the 10.1 to get others opinions instead of Transformer users that haven't tried the 10.1 yet.
Looks like supercurio is liking the 10.1 according to his tweets.
4dthinker said:
It is thinner and lighter than the iPad2. That's it.
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no expandable memory is a deal breaker!!! i can easily fill up 16gb and i don't want to pay the 32 gb price!!!
I've owned both and trust me...the weight difference is a major advantage for the Tab...MAJOR!
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no expandable memory is a deal breaker!!! i can easily fill up 16gb and i don't want to pay the 32 gb price!!!
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Not entirely true. It's just not built in. Sure you'll have to buy the adapter for it, but it is indeed expandable.
no hdmi is a deal breaker also.
Does samsung tab support dlna?
I am considering to go for transformer.
price was the big thing for me. $100 is a good chunk of money for something of similar specs.

[Q] Galaxy Tab 10.1 vs Asus Transformer

I currently own the Asus Transformer 16gb model. Is there anyone here who has opted for the Tab after using/owning the Transformer? If so what are your thoughts?
I feel the Transformer screen isn't very sensitive and feel i have to press pretty hard sometimes. Is the Tab any better?
Also I feel the Tab may have more of development community.
thanks!
briandap said:
I currently own the Asus Transformer 16gb model. Is there anyone here who has opted for the Tab after using/owning the Transformer? If so what are your thoughts?
I feel the Transformer screen isn't very sensitive and feel i have to press pretty hard sometimes. Is the Tab any better?
Also I feel the Tab may have more of development community.
thanks!
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This is a question for the general area really, but we are also very nice here in the SGT10.1 threads, so I will also answer your question. Touchscreen is awesome in responsiveness in my opinion, and I like it a lot more than the transformer. Also, the devs we have here, a couple so far, have been working on other devices, like my Captivate, and they are all top notch. Lots of breakthroughs in the last 3 days and we are awaiting a brand new kernel which will make this thing fly
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This is a question for the general area really, but we are also very nice here in the SGT10.1 threads, so I will also answer your question. Touchscreen is awesome in responsiveness in my opinion, and I like it a lot more than the transformer. Also, the devs we have here, a couple so far, have been working on other devices, like my Captivate, and they are all top notch. Lots of breakthroughs in the last 3 days and we are awaiting a brand new kernel which will make this thing fly
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Yeah sorry to throw it in DEV but I figured it included questions regarding ROMs and such My bad.
I can still return the Transformer to Amazon and get the Tab but I want to make sure it's worth keeping. Have they fixed the lag issues and such with the 3.1 update?
I don't own a transformer but the tab is amazing. The screen is amazing. And the dev support is already pretty heavy after only a fee days. The update for touchwiz also looks neat. If ur happy with stock honeycomb I think there is an option but its always good to have more then one choice.
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I owned a transformer for a week and returned it. I never regret a bit since I got the Galaxy tab 10.1 on the national launch date.
Reasons:
1. Build quality (big big difference)
2. GPS reception
3. Speaker quality
4. Display quality
5. Style (big difference)
To me these 5 reasons are well worthy to throw in an extra $100 and give up micro sd slot plus the mini HDMI slot.
hienkhieu said:
I owned a transformer for a week and returned it. I never regret a bit since I got the Galaxy tab 10.1 on the national launch date.
Reasons:
1. Build quality (big big difference)
2. GPS reception
3. Speaker quality
4. Display quality
5. Style (big difference)
To me these 5 reasons are well worthy to throw in an extra $100 and give up micro sd slot plus the mini HDMI slot.
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This is my list too. I owned it for about 2 weeks and returned it as well. I am not looking back. The speakers on the transformer suck compared to the 10.1. Display's are both good, but the TF has horrible light bleed, build quality is awesome. This will be the first device I've purchased in a long time that will not need to be exchanged or returned.
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Same for me, sold my Transformer the day the Sammy came out .... my only gripe is the damned typing lag on ANY website. This seems to be a Honeycomb issue because both the ASUS and the Samsung have it. Qualitywise (build) the Sammy is far far better.
However I can also understand why the Apple folks love their iPads. I played with one today at the mall and the scroll speed flipping between screens is untouchable by any android device and the 3rd party hardware available everywhere from Walmart to Brookstone is endless. You'll never see that happen to android because there are just too many incarnations. Problem is I hate "square" screens, they are so 90's. If the iPad had the same widescreen form factor as the Android devices I might have had to make a tough decision.
hienkhieu said:
I owned a transformer for a week and returned it. I never regret a bit since I got the Galaxy tab 10.1 on the national launch date.
Reasons:
1. Build quality (big big difference)
2. GPS reception
3. Speaker quality
4. Display quality
5. Style (big difference)
To me these 5 reasons are well worthy to throw in an extra $100 and give up micro sd slot plus the mini HDMI slot.
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I like them both
I own both devices and I love the tab so much that it is hard to put it down. The transformer get little attention now and will probably get sold, but I like it as well.
The colors and brightness on the tab are much better. I keep my brightness at about 30% and it is as bright as the transformer at 70%. Blues on the transformer are a little gray compared. The IPS display is great, but the view angles on the tab are still good.
The weight, thickness and build quality. The edges are smooth and feels nice in the hand. The transformer have sharp edges and tend to hurt after a while and is also a little heavier.
Sound quality is better and overall screen response is better
3.1 is smoother on the tab. I think Asus could have put a little more effort in 3.1 before releasing it. It seem they spent more time in adding the eye candy over performance.
I do like having the HDMI and microSD ports but in relity I never really used anything but the MicroSD slot, so I can live without them. I use online storage for my music file so the extra storage is no big deal. I don't need to keep tons of movies on the device and don't plan on using it as a media server for my home. It will be used to entertain me while away from home.
There a two apps on the transformer that I wished I had on the tab - MyLibrary and (MyCloud that include SplashTop - currently does not work on the tab).
The tab is about 1/2" shorter, but I think Asus added the extra length so that it matches with the dock.
The carmers - I am not planning on using the device to take photos or make movies, so the quality is no big deal for me.
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Same for me, sold my Transformer the day the Sammy came out .... my only gripe is the damned typing lag on ANY website. This seems to be a Honeycomb issue because both the ASUS and the Samsung have it. Qualitywise (build) the Sammy is far far better.
However I can also understand why the Apple folks love their iPads. I played with one today at the mall and the scroll speed flipping between screens is untouchable by any android device and the 3rd party hardware available everywhere from Walmart to Brookstone is endless. You'll never see that happen to android because there are just too many incarnations. Problem is I hate "square" screens, they are so 90's. If the iPad had the same widescreen form factor as the Android devices I might have had to make a tough decision.
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Switching from the Samsung keyboard to the stock android keyboard fixed alot of the lag. Switching to the dolphin HD browser fixed almost the rest of the lag. An overclocked kernel should take care of the rest.
I have to agree with everyone else here. Returned my Transformer and Dock for the Galaxy Tab. The weight alone sold me. But the camera quality and the display quality sealed it. You will not regret exchanging the Asus for this one.
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GT10.1 > Transformer > iPad 2 > Xoom (We all know it).
I returned my Transformer after a little over a week of having it and ordered the Tab 10.1. I have absolutely no regrets at all. The Transformer had light leak issues on 5 places on the screen, 0 with the Tab. The rounded corners on the Tab are much nicer than the sharp squared corners on the Transformer. The tab weighs less, and is thinner which makes it feel much better in the hand. The flash on the camera is nice, and having vibrate functionality is very nice when typing and getting alerts. The overall build quality seems nicer, so I really don't think you would regret returning your Transformer and going with a Tab 10.1.
I've done some reseaerch about all these tablets and yes the build quality on the Transformer laging a bit. I have one. The reason I went with the transformer is the micro sd and keyboard. Second reason, samsung lags on updates!!!!!. I have a captivate, have been running Andromeda3 since samsung doesn't update. Anyway, my screen seems really sensitive, I barely touch the screen and it registers. Yes speakers suck but other than that the transformer is very good, battery life is amazing, dock is nice. I don't have any light leaks either. I was this forum to check out rom dev. Compared to transformer one. One more note. If you want an Ipad get one not a clone
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DaWongOne said:
I've done some reseaerch about all these tablets and yes the build quality on the Transformer laging a bit. I have one. The reason I went with the transformer is the micro sd and keyboard. Second reason, samsung lags on updates!!!!!. I have a captivate, have been running Andromeda3 since samsung doesn't update. Anyway, my screen seems really sensitive, I barely touch the screen and it registers. Yes speakers suck but other than that the transformer is very good, battery life is amazing, dock is nice. I don't have any light leaks either. I was this forum to check out rom dev. Compared to transformer one. One more note. If you want an Ipad get one not a clone
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I think that this thread has been tolerated as the development is just now stepping up. However, whether you are joking or not, its comments like yours that just make people mad.
Samsung lags in there updates? This we know. That's why we are here, hovering in the dev section, waiting for these awesome guys to work their magic and unlock the full potential of these devices.
Everyone here is open to comments from helpful users trying to help better the development community and make it a great place to learn and play with our toys. Your comment, and all of its opinions, need to be in the Section market "General" as it does not pertain to the Android development on the SGT10.1 platform.
I have a 10.1v and a friend has a Transformer...
The 10.1v bezel is much slimmer than the Transformer and easily to carry.
It is way lighter too, and it is very significant.
Only plus that the Transformer's screen looks sharper and brighter... at least to me.
I went from the TF to the GT and haven't looked back since. I also sold my iPad and haven missed it since getting the GT.
Basically, what it came down to is... If you already have a laptop or a netbook, get the GT. Otherwise, stick with the TF. Period!
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I had two Transformers, each for a couple weeks at a time. Now I've had my Galaxy Tab 10.1 for almost a week.
I think the ASUS Transformer is extremely competitive against the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and it was an agonizing decision between the two. They have very different strengths and weakness.
What I love about the Transformer is it's low price, the micro SD and mini HDMI ports, and keyboard dock that turns a tablet into a netbook. But the Transformer has very poor speakers and the bezel is extra wide and has corners, the tablet is somewhat uncomfortable in portrait mode.
The Galaxy Tab 10.1 is super light, great rounded bezel, just absolutely wonderful to hold. PLS display has great colors. But no micro SD, the accessories are very expensive and suck big compared to the ASUS keyboard dock. You'll spend $150 on the Samsung keyboard dock and adapters and still get much less functionality than with the same priced ASUS keyboard dock.
I know I'll need more than 16GB of storage. With the Transformer I was able to spend $400 for the 16GB model and use the 16GB micro SD card I already owned (you can get them on Amazon for $18-25). Lack of micro SD means I had to buy the $600 Galaxy Tab 10.1.
So why did I think the Galaxy Tab 10.1 was worth spending $200 more on? I mostly consume content with my tablet, watch videos, surf the web, read ebooks and mangas. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 is a pure tablet, it's light and very comfortable and has a great colorful display.
The Transformer is awesome because it can be a netbook. But I decided as cool as that is. I'm not sure Android is really up to the task of really being a laptop or even Windows netbook replacement. I'm not sure I'd see myself actually using that keyboard all that much, as I'd probably rather just get out the laptop instead.
I'm pretty happy with my decision now. Just really hope Samsung is more punctual with it's updates. Because Android 3.x really needs some updating.
I got the 32GB version of the TF. I like ASUS products and have a few of their laptops and have used their motherboards for years. So when the TF came out I got it right away. After playing with it for a few days I noticed how cheaply built it was and the first time I tried to watch a movie in the dark I freaked out! The backlight leakage was crazy bad. I took it back and got another one and it was worse. The backing of the TF was loose and made a creaking sound. The light leakage was worse than the first and the power button failed after 5 days. I took the second one back and got a third. Went to my car and went over it before I left Frys and it had all the same problems. Walked back in and got my money back. ASUS you drooped the ball big time with the TF.
After all that, I got the Galaxy 10.1 and was blown away with the total quality of the thing. Not one issue. Its perfect.
I love this thing and have used it every day.
Good luck to whoever got the TF. Hope yours doesn't have the issues my three different ones had.
I ditched my TF, i can tell you why in one word, Comfort.
I loved my TF, but compared to the Tab it feels bulky and heavy to hold.
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transformer or not??

I have a galaxy 10.1 right now but im not very happy wit it its laggy and the plastic back makes my hands sweat for some reason so my friend got a transformer and i fell in love with the tablet im thinking about returning the galaxy for the transformer what do you guys think? anything i should look out for or should i just keep the tab??
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If your only gripe is the plastic backing, you can just get a case for your Galaxy Tab. The defining feature of the Transformer is its keyboard dock, as otherwise it is functionally the same as every other Honeycomb tablet, just with a cheaper housing. If you don't plan on using the keyboard dock, there isn't much of a reason to switch.
Of course, with the Galaxy tab, you can name your tablet "Andromeda" or "SR830" or something like that.. With the Transformer, you can name your tablet "Optimus Prime" or something.
we should turn "Transformer vs" threads into a drinking game..
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If you don't plan on using the keyboard dock, there isn't much of a reason to switch.
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Well, I can think of three additional reasons - onboard MicroSD and HDMI ports, and, in addition, Asus seem quite a bit better than Samsung in getting updates out too.
Of course, if none of these matter to you, and/or you don't plan on using the keyboard dock, then I concur there's little reason to switch as the current generation of Honeycomb tablets are all based on the same Nvidia Ventana platform, and thus mostly similar at their cores.
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Dave
After splashing out £400 on a Asus Transformer, that doubles as a netbook and a tablet, I don't think I could ever splash out £400 on a tablet-only device (or £300 on a tablet-only device for that matter).
The Asus wins hands down. HDMI output, loads of ports and card slots, the dock (obviously), and the prompt updates by Asus are all reasons why the Transformer is a million miles ahead of the Tab.
Well, I don't have the samsung 10, but I own the galaxy 7 and the asus tf101.
IMHO, the galaxy is much better than the asus, but I think I can't compare a cyanamod rom with the stock rom of the asus.
But I was thinking that the asus was much better than this.
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xtkxhom3r said:
I have a galaxy 10.1 right now but im not very happy wit it its laggy and the plastic back makes my hands sweat for some reason so my friend got a transformer and i fell in love with the tablet im thinking about returning the galaxy for the transformer what do you guys think? anything i should look out for or should i just keep the tab??
any input would be greatly appreciated! and thank button pressed
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Someone posted on the Tab 10.1 forum asking if they'd swap a Tab for a TF, might help you out if you're looking for a swap.
Another consideration is the screen. My understanding is that the GT 10.1 screen is a tiny bit better than the TF screen in terms of brightness and such, but the colors are (like all Samsung devices) a bit over-saturated. If you want more natural colors and a screen that's still outstanding, then the TF is a good choice.
thanks guys ill look for that thread in the tab forum but i got to play with the transformer again last night and surfing the web is more smooth than the tab i dont understand why since they have the same hardware but im leaning more towards the tf... and all the ports is definitely a plus
My samsung fascinate got stuck on android 1.6 , twilight zonish. No more samsung for me.
so i got the transformer this morning... man this thing is great the screen isnt as bright but i feel the colors are a lot more realistic and the feel of the tablet just feels better to me... i got a revision b60 so hopefully i have no problems with it in the long run... now its time to root!

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