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[Q] Xoom or Samsung 10.1

I bought the Xoom Sunday without contract, and I am debating on returning it and wait for the Samsung's 10.1 tab. I really like my xoom, I haven't had any big issues with my xoom but I don't like how there is like nothing for honeycomb yet. I read about people having problems with hd videos because of the processor. The Samsung is suppose to have a better screen and a better rear camera.
I would like other peoples opinions on "should I return my xoom?"

Outside of the screen and camera those are really the only two differences. Aesthetics also i guess.

Samsung has shown they turn their back on recent devices, for me I love the xoom

After hearing from multiple sources that the GTab 10.1 feels like a cheap plastic iPad I don't even care about it anymore. I also heard the "aluminum" rim around it was painted plastic. Of course, this is all personal preference... but I don't like the negativity surrounding this thing's build quality.
If the screen is that much better, then maybe I will reconsider.

some major problem with the samsung is NO USB, NO HDMI, NO MicroSD card
These are huge issues.
The xoom hardware is capable of supporting usb host with the right adapter and software.
Samsung is going all proprietary
Finally, the xoom's screen isnt BAD its just not as bright/has as much contrast as the ipad - but you get a higher resolution as a trade-off. (and again the screen isnt THAT much different)

Flaunt77 said:
some major problem with the samsung is NO USB, NO HDMI, NO MicroSD card
These are huge issues.
The xoom hardware is capable of supporting usb host with the right adapter and software.
Samsung is going all proprietary
Finally, the xoom's screen isnt BAD its just not as bright/has as much contrast as the ipad - but you get a higher resolution as a trade-off. (and again the screen isnt THAT much different)
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I guess that just changed my mind. I had no idea that it was missing all that stuff.
Thanks.

Thought the Xoom had better viewing angles than the Galaxy 10.1? Xoom also isnt plastic, another plus for it. Does the Galaxy 10.1 come with an unlockable bootloader?

Ugh... What Honeycomb tablet will be crowned king? =/
I think for the next few months the Xoom just wins~

for me it's definitely xoom, though admittedly I would want a lighter tablet.

What about the LG tablet?
That one is a real contender too.
It is smaller and lighter.

Earthbrain said:
What about the LG tablet?
That one is a real contender too.
It is smaller and lighter.
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Afraid they're going to charge a premium for the 3D ability of it (3D screen and extra camera means more $$). I think the 8.9" formfactor might be nice but I don't see it being any more stelar than GT10.1 or Xoom, and it might cost just as much or more.
Samsung stated that after the iPad 2 came out with its specs and price, they needed to "re-evaluate" their pricing and components on the Galaxy Tab 10.1. This means we might see a cheap version of it, which makes it more appealing to me. Some of the shortcomings I can live with (no HDMI is fine with me), but some things like no MicroSD is just a deal breaker unless i can buy a 64GB GT10.1 for the same price as a 32GB Xoom. I don't care about the plastic back, if it makes it lighter and is relatively sturdy, I'm okay with that.

Just in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1003417
Apparently, Samsung redesigned the 10.1" to be thinner, lighter than iPad2 and added a microSD card too!
Awesome!
Unfortunately, the YouTube video has been pulled out.
Can't wait, 16:00 time (GMT)!

Bye xoom, hello galaxy tab 10. 1.
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calin75 said:
Bye xoom, hello galaxy tab 10. 1.
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Yes. I think I'm going with the Galaxy Tab 10.1 too. Only disappointment with it is, the 3 MP rear camera, a price to pay for the thinness. But, on the positive side, it has Divx/Xvid support too, so hopefully should not have video playback issues, as on Xoom.

gogol said:
Just in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1003417
Apparently, Samsung redesigned the 10.1" to be thinner, lighter than iPad2 and added a microSD card too!
Awesome!
Unfortunately, the YouTube video has been pulled out.
Can't wait, 16:00 time (GMT)!
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Too bad it has one bad thing. TOUCHWIZ

I guess if you're willing to wait till June to get the exact same specs (besides the screen.. and the missing hdmi and microusb ports.) then go for it.

kgeissler said:
Too bad it has one bad thing. TOUCHWIZ
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Yea but we have XDA. I guess it won't be long, before someone figures out a way or a ROM to pull it out

I know this falls in the endless wait for the next version circle but if nVidia can indeed deliver tablets with Quad Core Kal-El by August, I would feel bad waiting up to June (potentially July/August for Canadians).
I believe I will be picking a Wifi XOOM at launch in Canada (April 8).
XOOM Pros:
- The highest quality finish so far.
- HDMI out port
- Micro USB port
- Unskinned
- Relockable bootloader
- Currently the closest to a Dev device and most likely to receive the most AOSP love
- Available now (next week Wifi)
XOOM Cons:
- Heavy
- Screen is slightly sub par according to most
- Power button placement (not a big deal but still...)
- No 16 or 64 gig models (altough the 64Gb is kinda irrelevant when SD card is available)
- No USB charging (minor again as it would take long to charge, potentially fixed with custom ROM)
To me the Pros offset the Cons. I see two choice with Android tablets: Be an early adopter and get the XOOM, wait around Christmas for quad core/better speced/better priced/polished and stable 3.X.
Competition is just starting to heat up, once HTC, Sony, RIM, HP, MS release their product, most of which should be somewhere this summer except for maybe MS, we will start to see what the tablet market actually looks like.

I was talking to my wife about tablets when the iPad2 was just announced. I told her about the weight and size and her reply was "Why does everything always have to be thinner and lighter!??!" There you go. I'm happy with the Xoom and once I have this awesome PivotPad I won't have any problems with holding it anymore! Maybe in the future there will also be a solution to the video decoding issues...

The main reason I wanted to go for Samsung was the fact it was going to be a Google experience device and now they pull this Touchwiz crap.

[Q] Tf101 or galaxy tab 10.1(the dilemma)

Guys!
I had the Transformer for about 3 days now,as much as i love it,something in my heart is telling to return it and wait for the galaxy tab 10.1
My ISSUES
1. I have light bleed and 000000000000000.1 dead pixel on my,which doesnt really border me.
2.My wife said is too wide.
Guys! what should i do?

Well, if you're smart, you know the wife is the boss.
So there ya go.

my wife tells me mine is too wide all the time!

Crimton said:
my wife tells me mine is too wide all the time!
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Me Toohttp://media.xda-developers.com/images/icons/icon11.gif

if you don't need the keyboard, and don't mind not having stock honeycomb and being at samsungs mercy for updates, then go for the GTab.

Do what works for you and fits your needs best. Its personal depending on what you want/need. I'm not sure how forum members can help make the decision for you.
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Hmm, if Galaxy Tab 10.1 also has Tegra 2, then I might be slightly more interested in the Transformer due to its keyboard dock, USB and HDMI. But again, my heart is already sold out for the 10.1's PLS display. So, its a still tough choice for me

What is the difference between IPS and PLS?
Because the transformer IPS look good.
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Hmm, if Galaxy Tab 10.1 also has Tegra 2, then I might be slightly more interested in the Transformer due to its keyboard dock, USB and HDMI. But again, my heart is already sold out for the 10.1's PLS display. So, its a still tough choice for me
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dmoney94 said:
Guys!
I had the Transformer for about 3 days now,as much as i love it,something in my heart is telling to return it and wait for the galaxy tab 10.1
My ISSUES
1. I have light bleed and 000000000000000.1 dead pixel on my,which doesnt really border me.
2.My wife said is too wide.
Guys! what should i do?
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1. Do you know that light bleed is more common than you think, right? even my iPad 2 (as test) have an awesome screen with light bleed. What if the Galaxy Tab also have light bleed?
2. I agree, it's very wide, even wider than Xoom. At least for me this is not a problem, is still very portable and light as iPad 1.

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What is the difference between IPS and PLS?
Because the transformer IPS look good.
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IPS looks very good.
Regarding PLS, you can find some info here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/01/samsung-touts-super-pls-display-as-the-evolution-of-ips-on-smart/

dmoney94 said:
What is the difference between IPS and PLS?
Because the transformer IPS look good.
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You might want to look at these videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdu5PVjCGo0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1IJHYr5UYk

I really like both tablets and initially I was leaning towards the GT10.1. But I flipped over to the Transformer because of how well the keyboard dock works. The keyboard, touch pad, USB ports, extra SD slot, the Transformer becomes a netbook when you need it.
Second thing that swayed me to ASUS was Samsung's reputation for being very slow with updates. The GT10.1 starts out with vanilla Honeycomb, but eventually it'll get TouchWiz'ed and I imagine this will create big delays with Android updates in the future. The Transformer has only light changes and hopefully Android updates will be more timely.
Getting those Android updates as quickly as possible are important considering how new this Android tablet OS is.
What I still like about the GT10.1 though is how light it is. I like it's look and style more as well.
The PLS display sounds nice and is in the GT10.1's favor. But I get the impression it may not be much of a difference between it an IPS. Viewing angles are suppose to be a little better.
I have 11 days to decide to keep the Transformer. But I think I will. Being $100 cheaper also helps the Transformer too.

+ nicer sexier form factor
- skinned ui (touch wiz)
- Samsung updates = fail
Edit: after looking at the Samsung tab, it looks like a keyboard dock could be very possible since it's got a dock port in the same location as the Asus. However the Asus was specifically designed with a wide bezel to allow for a decent sized keyboard.

I think to actually have a dock like the Transformer, a tablet needs the locking slots alongside the port to keep the screen in place, especially when the combo is closed. So it's not likely something any of the upcoming tablets have as an option, unless I'm missing something.

Crimton said:
my wife tells me mine is too wide all the time!
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That's what she said!
(Not sure if this is inappropriate for this forum or not)

dark_aura said:
IPS looks very good.
Regarding PLS, you can find some info here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/01/samsung-touts-super-pls-display-as-the-evolution-of-ips-on-smart/
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^
wow that girl is really cute!
if you need the keyboard then stick to the transformer. I hate samsung and their lack of updates. I own a galaxy tab and though I love it so much, I cant stand Samsung. for me, its a no brainer, i need the keyboard for typing papers, notes and things of that sort. I dont really have a laptop anymore since i gave my macbook pro to my mom so i use tablets instead. everyone is raving about the asus display so i am sure it will be fine and i dont really care about PLS right now. but....
i havent actually touched one so i dont really know how its gonna feel in my hands since it is wider than most tablets. i think its worth the tradeoff since you can dock it and have an almost full-sized keyboard.

I don't think the keyboard is a big factor for me, i don't need it.

dmoney94 said:
I don't think the keyboard is a big factor for me, i don't need it.
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If you won't be using a keyboard dock. Then I think things lean more towards the Galaxy Tab because of it's lighter weight, PLS display, thinness, and style.
And Touch Wiz UX does look like it has some nice points to it. Just pray Samsung can can do better with tablet updates than it has with phone updates.
I'd probably go with the Galaxy Tab if you are not interested in the Transformers keyboard dock. And can survive waiting another 5 or 6 weeks.

Dunno why you guys are dissing Samsung over updates. There have been at least over 6 updates for the Galaxy S, disregarding regions. They were also the first to release Gingerbread to non-Google mobile phones.

Billus said:
Dunno why you guys are dissing Samsung over updates. There have been at least over 6 updates for the Galaxy S, disregarding regions. They were also the first to release Gingerbread to non-Google mobile phones.
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And bunch of people I know who had stock galaxy s phones that did the stock update landed with bricked devices. They know what they are doing, so definitely not my friends fault lol.

Go for the Eeepad or wait for the Galaxy Tab 10.1?

Im conidering a tablet but torn between the ASUS eeePad Transformer and the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1.
Without doubt the Samsung has the wow factor, but they're making such a hash of releasing it by all accounts. Hardware specs don't appear to be fully finalised, it appears the thing version won't have a memory card slot, the camera only 3MP and it's still not released and there's no release date for the UK.
The ASUS meanwhile according to the videos I've seen have excellent sound which should be good for media playback.
Im worried about the lack of 3G but remember I could use my Galaxy S as a WiFi hotspot for those times I need to use this on the go.
The ASUS is released, has 3.1, some decent features and a great price.
Is there any reason I should wait for the Samsung and not get the ASUS? Is there any other tablet that comes close for the price? I was looking at the Xoom, and the Flywer and everything in between, but they all seemed to be much more expensive.
What do you guys think?
Does the Eeepad also support DivX playback?
Thanks
Simon

For divx it's ok but for HD videos all the tegra 2 tablets can't handle them very well.
Just want to be sure you won't expect much about it. That said, the transformer has a nice ips screen but with some bleeds (related to ips technology) and a microsd slot. The galaxy tab have no microsd slot.
The sound on the asus is not very good, I can't speak about the galaxy tab on this front.
Performance wise all tegra 2 tablets are more or less the same what you should look at are expansion ports, form factor and screen. So ask yourself what you want.
Hope that helps.

bottom line is if you want android but with an ipad formfactor in the sense of no built in expandibility but thin and light then go samsung.
If oyu want something that is less expensive, had HDMi and microsd built in, is cheaper, and has optional keyboard dock turning it into a longer battery life android netbook with usb ports and full sd card slot, then Go Asus. Asus however will be a bit heavier and thicker and from my experience the build quality will suffer a bit compared to the samsung.

I just read the Anandtech Review on the Galaxy Tab 10.1.The 10.1 wins with its thin form factor, weight and IPAD like contours, while the TF beats out the 10.1 on all benchmarks and battery life and the convenience of the dock.

I'm in the same situation as the OP with regards to the Samsung and the Asus (I've recently returned a TF), I'm now waiting for Samsung to release definitive specs and price here in the UK. I've just returned from my local PC World, they've no news on the GT 10.1 at all. Whilst I was there I had a look at the range of tablets on display and I have to say the Transformer looked better than I remember.

Yep, form factor definatley goes to Samsung, along with build quality.
As for Asus, its still a great looking tablet, and comfortable to hold in my opinion. Has the HDMI, memory card slot, ability to be docked, and is $100 less. Its sort of a no brainer for me, but depends what you want to do with it.

For some of the reasons mentioned by aibo I would wait for a tegra-3 tablet. This is especially true if you are interested in any type of HD media. The more I play with my TF the more I realize the tegra-2 is just underpowered trying to play any kind of HD content with HD sound. Don't get me wrong I love my TF and knowing what I know now if I really wanted to wait I would also wait for a tegra-3 Asus.
See the should I wait for the tegra-3 thread fo even more reasons to wait.

All the more reason to get the Asus. Get base model which is 399. Then next year give it to family or sell it for 200 and get a kalel tegra 3
This way you get to enjoy a tablet for a year and the 100 you save plus selling your used Asus will get you most of the way to the latest and greatest.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

sjdean said:
Without doubt the Samsung has the wow factor,
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How can the GT have a WOW factor? it's just the same as the Xoom, the Acer Iconia, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc unless of course you mean WOW in Greek: Wimadia, Objectori, Wimbararia (The same as all the rest)
In the Galaxy Tab forum you ask
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Galaxy Tab: Is it Worth It?
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Of course it's not; it has a lot less features than the Transformer, it's a no brainer

checkbox111 said:
How can the GT have a WOW factor?
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It is thinner and lighter than the iPad2. That's it.

4dthinker said:
It is thinner and lighter than the iPad2. That's it.
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And +$100 more. Is it really worth it? The TF101 is pretty light as it is already.
With +$100 more you can get yourself a TF101 32GB AND A MicroSD slot whereas $499.99 Galaxy Tab 10.1 you'll get 16GB without a MicroSD.

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It is thinner and lighter than the iPad2. That's it.
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I bet you think size 0 women a sexy

Also, according to Anandtech, 10.1 doesn't have as much glare on the screen as the Transformer. I won't go into color saturation as that's preference of the user.
Too much speculating and assumptions in these threads. I doubt many here have actually had both in hand.

songmeesay said:
Also, according to Anandtech, 10.1 doesn't have as much glare on the screen as the Transformer. I won't go into color saturation as that's preference of the user.
Too much speculating and assumptions in these threads. I doubt many here have actually had both in hand.
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supercurio does, https://twitter.com/#!/supercurio he has been comparing the two devices

zephiK said:
supercurio does, https://twitter.com/#!/supercurio he has been comparing the two devices
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I meant more along in this specific thread. Perhaps OP should also post this in the Galaxy Tab 10.1 forums as well as there are some users that have jumped ship from the Transformer to the 10.1 to get others opinions instead of Transformer users that haven't tried the 10.1 yet.
Looks like supercurio is liking the 10.1 according to his tweets.

4dthinker said:
It is thinner and lighter than the iPad2. That's it.
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no expandable memory is a deal breaker!!! i can easily fill up 16gb and i don't want to pay the 32 gb price!!!

I've owned both and trust me...the weight difference is a major advantage for the Tab...MAJOR!

james robinson said:
no expandable memory is a deal breaker!!! i can easily fill up 16gb and i don't want to pay the 32 gb price!!!
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Not entirely true. It's just not built in. Sure you'll have to buy the adapter for it, but it is indeed expandable.

no hdmi is a deal breaker also.
Does samsung tab support dlna?
I am considering to go for transformer.

price was the big thing for me. $100 is a good chunk of money for something of similar specs.

[Q] Galaxy Tab 10.1 vs Asus Transformer

I currently own the Asus Transformer 16gb model. Is there anyone here who has opted for the Tab after using/owning the Transformer? If so what are your thoughts?
I feel the Transformer screen isn't very sensitive and feel i have to press pretty hard sometimes. Is the Tab any better?
Also I feel the Tab may have more of development community.
thanks!

briandap said:
I currently own the Asus Transformer 16gb model. Is there anyone here who has opted for the Tab after using/owning the Transformer? If so what are your thoughts?
I feel the Transformer screen isn't very sensitive and feel i have to press pretty hard sometimes. Is the Tab any better?
Also I feel the Tab may have more of development community.
thanks!
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This is a question for the general area really, but we are also very nice here in the SGT10.1 threads, so I will also answer your question. Touchscreen is awesome in responsiveness in my opinion, and I like it a lot more than the transformer. Also, the devs we have here, a couple so far, have been working on other devices, like my Captivate, and they are all top notch. Lots of breakthroughs in the last 3 days and we are awaiting a brand new kernel which will make this thing fly

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This is a question for the general area really, but we are also very nice here in the SGT10.1 threads, so I will also answer your question. Touchscreen is awesome in responsiveness in my opinion, and I like it a lot more than the transformer. Also, the devs we have here, a couple so far, have been working on other devices, like my Captivate, and they are all top notch. Lots of breakthroughs in the last 3 days and we are awaiting a brand new kernel which will make this thing fly
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Yeah sorry to throw it in DEV but I figured it included questions regarding ROMs and such My bad.
I can still return the Transformer to Amazon and get the Tab but I want to make sure it's worth keeping. Have they fixed the lag issues and such with the 3.1 update?

I don't own a transformer but the tab is amazing. The screen is amazing. And the dev support is already pretty heavy after only a fee days. The update for touchwiz also looks neat. If ur happy with stock honeycomb I think there is an option but its always good to have more then one choice.
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I owned a transformer for a week and returned it. I never regret a bit since I got the Galaxy tab 10.1 on the national launch date.
Reasons:
1. Build quality (big big difference)
2. GPS reception
3. Speaker quality
4. Display quality
5. Style (big difference)
To me these 5 reasons are well worthy to throw in an extra $100 and give up micro sd slot plus the mini HDMI slot.

hienkhieu said:
I owned a transformer for a week and returned it. I never regret a bit since I got the Galaxy tab 10.1 on the national launch date.
Reasons:
1. Build quality (big big difference)
2. GPS reception
3. Speaker quality
4. Display quality
5. Style (big difference)
To me these 5 reasons are well worthy to throw in an extra $100 and give up micro sd slot plus the mini HDMI slot.
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This is my list too. I owned it for about 2 weeks and returned it as well. I am not looking back. The speakers on the transformer suck compared to the 10.1. Display's are both good, but the TF has horrible light bleed, build quality is awesome. This will be the first device I've purchased in a long time that will not need to be exchanged or returned.

+1
Same for me, sold my Transformer the day the Sammy came out .... my only gripe is the damned typing lag on ANY website. This seems to be a Honeycomb issue because both the ASUS and the Samsung have it. Qualitywise (build) the Sammy is far far better.
However I can also understand why the Apple folks love their iPads. I played with one today at the mall and the scroll speed flipping between screens is untouchable by any android device and the 3rd party hardware available everywhere from Walmart to Brookstone is endless. You'll never see that happen to android because there are just too many incarnations. Problem is I hate "square" screens, they are so 90's. If the iPad had the same widescreen form factor as the Android devices I might have had to make a tough decision.
hienkhieu said:
I owned a transformer for a week and returned it. I never regret a bit since I got the Galaxy tab 10.1 on the national launch date.
Reasons:
1. Build quality (big big difference)
2. GPS reception
3. Speaker quality
4. Display quality
5. Style (big difference)
To me these 5 reasons are well worthy to throw in an extra $100 and give up micro sd slot plus the mini HDMI slot.
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I like them both
I own both devices and I love the tab so much that it is hard to put it down. The transformer get little attention now and will probably get sold, but I like it as well.
The colors and brightness on the tab are much better. I keep my brightness at about 30% and it is as bright as the transformer at 70%. Blues on the transformer are a little gray compared. The IPS display is great, but the view angles on the tab are still good.
The weight, thickness and build quality. The edges are smooth and feels nice in the hand. The transformer have sharp edges and tend to hurt after a while and is also a little heavier.
Sound quality is better and overall screen response is better
3.1 is smoother on the tab. I think Asus could have put a little more effort in 3.1 before releasing it. It seem they spent more time in adding the eye candy over performance.
I do like having the HDMI and microSD ports but in relity I never really used anything but the MicroSD slot, so I can live without them. I use online storage for my music file so the extra storage is no big deal. I don't need to keep tons of movies on the device and don't plan on using it as a media server for my home. It will be used to entertain me while away from home.
There a two apps on the transformer that I wished I had on the tab - MyLibrary and (MyCloud that include SplashTop - currently does not work on the tab).
The tab is about 1/2" shorter, but I think Asus added the extra length so that it matches with the dock.
The carmers - I am not planning on using the device to take photos or make movies, so the quality is no big deal for me.

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Same for me, sold my Transformer the day the Sammy came out .... my only gripe is the damned typing lag on ANY website. This seems to be a Honeycomb issue because both the ASUS and the Samsung have it. Qualitywise (build) the Sammy is far far better.
However I can also understand why the Apple folks love their iPads. I played with one today at the mall and the scroll speed flipping between screens is untouchable by any android device and the 3rd party hardware available everywhere from Walmart to Brookstone is endless. You'll never see that happen to android because there are just too many incarnations. Problem is I hate "square" screens, they are so 90's. If the iPad had the same widescreen form factor as the Android devices I might have had to make a tough decision.
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Switching from the Samsung keyboard to the stock android keyboard fixed alot of the lag. Switching to the dolphin HD browser fixed almost the rest of the lag. An overclocked kernel should take care of the rest.

I have to agree with everyone else here. Returned my Transformer and Dock for the Galaxy Tab. The weight alone sold me. But the camera quality and the display quality sealed it. You will not regret exchanging the Asus for this one.
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GT10.1 > Transformer > iPad 2 > Xoom (We all know it).

I returned my Transformer after a little over a week of having it and ordered the Tab 10.1. I have absolutely no regrets at all. The Transformer had light leak issues on 5 places on the screen, 0 with the Tab. The rounded corners on the Tab are much nicer than the sharp squared corners on the Transformer. The tab weighs less, and is thinner which makes it feel much better in the hand. The flash on the camera is nice, and having vibrate functionality is very nice when typing and getting alerts. The overall build quality seems nicer, so I really don't think you would regret returning your Transformer and going with a Tab 10.1.

I've done some reseaerch about all these tablets and yes the build quality on the Transformer laging a bit. I have one. The reason I went with the transformer is the micro sd and keyboard. Second reason, samsung lags on updates!!!!!. I have a captivate, have been running Andromeda3 since samsung doesn't update. Anyway, my screen seems really sensitive, I barely touch the screen and it registers. Yes speakers suck but other than that the transformer is very good, battery life is amazing, dock is nice. I don't have any light leaks either. I was this forum to check out rom dev. Compared to transformer one. One more note. If you want an Ipad get one not a clone
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DaWongOne said:
I've done some reseaerch about all these tablets and yes the build quality on the Transformer laging a bit. I have one. The reason I went with the transformer is the micro sd and keyboard. Second reason, samsung lags on updates!!!!!. I have a captivate, have been running Andromeda3 since samsung doesn't update. Anyway, my screen seems really sensitive, I barely touch the screen and it registers. Yes speakers suck but other than that the transformer is very good, battery life is amazing, dock is nice. I don't have any light leaks either. I was this forum to check out rom dev. Compared to transformer one. One more note. If you want an Ipad get one not a clone
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I think that this thread has been tolerated as the development is just now stepping up. However, whether you are joking or not, its comments like yours that just make people mad.
Samsung lags in there updates? This we know. That's why we are here, hovering in the dev section, waiting for these awesome guys to work their magic and unlock the full potential of these devices.
Everyone here is open to comments from helpful users trying to help better the development community and make it a great place to learn and play with our toys. Your comment, and all of its opinions, need to be in the Section market "General" as it does not pertain to the Android development on the SGT10.1 platform.

I have a 10.1v and a friend has a Transformer...
The 10.1v bezel is much slimmer than the Transformer and easily to carry.
It is way lighter too, and it is very significant.
Only plus that the Transformer's screen looks sharper and brighter... at least to me.

I went from the TF to the GT and haven't looked back since. I also sold my iPad and haven missed it since getting the GT.
Basically, what it came down to is... If you already have a laptop or a netbook, get the GT. Otherwise, stick with the TF. Period!
Sent from my beloved HTC EVO 4G.

I had two Transformers, each for a couple weeks at a time. Now I've had my Galaxy Tab 10.1 for almost a week.
I think the ASUS Transformer is extremely competitive against the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and it was an agonizing decision between the two. They have very different strengths and weakness.
What I love about the Transformer is it's low price, the micro SD and mini HDMI ports, and keyboard dock that turns a tablet into a netbook. But the Transformer has very poor speakers and the bezel is extra wide and has corners, the tablet is somewhat uncomfortable in portrait mode.
The Galaxy Tab 10.1 is super light, great rounded bezel, just absolutely wonderful to hold. PLS display has great colors. But no micro SD, the accessories are very expensive and suck big compared to the ASUS keyboard dock. You'll spend $150 on the Samsung keyboard dock and adapters and still get much less functionality than with the same priced ASUS keyboard dock.
I know I'll need more than 16GB of storage. With the Transformer I was able to spend $400 for the 16GB model and use the 16GB micro SD card I already owned (you can get them on Amazon for $18-25). Lack of micro SD means I had to buy the $600 Galaxy Tab 10.1.
So why did I think the Galaxy Tab 10.1 was worth spending $200 more on? I mostly consume content with my tablet, watch videos, surf the web, read ebooks and mangas. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 is a pure tablet, it's light and very comfortable and has a great colorful display.
The Transformer is awesome because it can be a netbook. But I decided as cool as that is. I'm not sure Android is really up to the task of really being a laptop or even Windows netbook replacement. I'm not sure I'd see myself actually using that keyboard all that much, as I'd probably rather just get out the laptop instead.
I'm pretty happy with my decision now. Just really hope Samsung is more punctual with it's updates. Because Android 3.x really needs some updating.

I got the 32GB version of the TF. I like ASUS products and have a few of their laptops and have used their motherboards for years. So when the TF came out I got it right away. After playing with it for a few days I noticed how cheaply built it was and the first time I tried to watch a movie in the dark I freaked out! The backlight leakage was crazy bad. I took it back and got another one and it was worse. The backing of the TF was loose and made a creaking sound. The light leakage was worse than the first and the power button failed after 5 days. I took the second one back and got a third. Went to my car and went over it before I left Frys and it had all the same problems. Walked back in and got my money back. ASUS you drooped the ball big time with the TF.
After all that, I got the Galaxy 10.1 and was blown away with the total quality of the thing. Not one issue. Its perfect.
I love this thing and have used it every day.
Good luck to whoever got the TF. Hope yours doesn't have the issues my three different ones had.

I ditched my TF, i can tell you why in one word, Comfort.
I loved my TF, but compared to the Tab it feels bulky and heavy to hold.
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Upcoming Galaxy Note 10.1 vs. other contenders

Hi guys,
I really like what I read about the upcoming Galaxy Note 10.1. My personal preferences in the tablet: do care about thickness, weight, IPS screen, screen size, battery life, build quality, future Android updates, storage expansion (somewhat); don't really care about: things like pen input; 1280x800 vs. 1920x1200 resolution, ability to make phone calls from.
So, I've noticed that there are a couple of contenders out there (or very soon to be released):
1 - IdeaTab S2110; currently out; similar specs 10" screen; same size, weight and thickness; similar battery performance(?); no MicroSD card; v4.0.x; only $399
2 - MediaPad 10 FHD; out in August supposedly; 1920x1200 10" screen; same size, weight and thickness; v4.0.x; under $500 is what I've read
Both offer an optional keyboard which not only extends the battery life but also adds some extra ports, and MicroSD one for IdeaTab.
So, *with* the above criteria, why would someone pick the upcoming Note 10.1 over those and perhaps similar contenders? Or may be I can phrase it differently: why would *you* pick Note 10.1 over all other choices?
Thanks in advance for your feedback!

Easy that one. It's by Samsung. As much as people like to ***** about their support its still better than a lot of the smaller players in the tablet game. They have now built a ton of android devices and are getting pretty dang good at it.
I had a transformer prime and sold it to buy the lower spec galaxy tab 2. Why? If you root the prime you loose the ability to ever go back to stock Rom and ota updates. At least Samsung give you the freedom to hack your device and return it to stock at will. I'm pretty sure the flash counter will only be used to deny warranty if you do something silly like overclock until your cpu fries in which case it's clearly user error not a faulty device.
From here on in Samsung's getting my loyalty until other manufacturers stop being jerks to the modding community.
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dr.m0x said:
I had a transformer prime and sold it to buy the lower spec galaxy tab 2. Why? If you root the prime you loose the ability to ever go back to stock Rom and ota updates. At least Samsung give you the freedom to hack your device and return it to stock at will. I'm pretty sure the flash counter will only be used to deny warranty if you do something silly like overclock until your cpu fries in which case it's clearly user error not a faulty device.
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Thanks. Yeah, I don't appreciate shenanigans like that either. "Upgradeability" is high on my last as well, which I didn't mention. That's why I didn't actually include Toshiba Excite there, which supposedly comes with a locked bootloader. I hear Lenovo is so-so about providing timely/any updates either. So, that one may be out as well. Don't know much about Huawei tbhwy.

Note 10.1 specs looks really good, especially given the performance of the similarly equipped SGS3 although the screen is going to be it's downfall... I don't mind 1280x800, but the Tab2's 1280x800 is not nearly as crisp as the Transformer Prime's 1280x800 IPS display.
Unfortunately, I do not see a better Android contender at the moment... the transformer infinity seems to be another Asus beta product and suffers with poor i/o performance.
Looking forward to the Samsung announcements today. Hope it is at US retailers right away.

MNDaveC said:
Note 10.1 specs looks really good, especially given the performance of the similarly equipped SGS3 although the screen is going to be it's downfall... I don't mind 1280x800, but the Tab2's 1280x800 is not nearly as crisp as the Transformer Prime's 1280x800 IPS display.
Unfortunately, I do not see a better Android contender at the moment... the transformer infinity seems to be another Asus beta product and suffers with poor i/o performance.
Looking forward to the Samsung announcements today. Hope it is at US retailers right away.
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Thanks.
Mod(s) should probably move this thread to Note forum.

Why would they move it? Hmm.
I'd like a ten inch tablet after having a few sevens. Never had a ten. I think I'd like it more.

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Why would they move it? Hmm.
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There is a Galaxy Note dedicated forum now and when I posted it originally there wasn't any.