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Has it been designed to use the USB port for input?

Hey since I am not a dev, I do not know if the USB port could accept incoming connections. Since linux is here now on it, I would think there may be a way to tap into the USB port and rig up some sorta USB input device to use on the G1. Imagine a controller. =D Just wondering if its been reported if the G1 could have the ability or if hardware wise its totally blocked off. Thanks. =)

well the wired headset has a microphone on it for calls, so at the very least you could plug in a USB microphone
i'm no hardware dev though, so i could be wrong!

Mysticales said:
Hey since I am not a dev, I do not know if the USB port could accept incoming connections. Since linux is here now on it, I would think there may be a way to tap into the USB port and rig up some sorta USB input device to use on the G1. Imagine a controller. =D Just wondering if its been reported if the G1 could have the ability or if hardware wise its totally blocked off. Thanks. =)
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Search the forum for "usb host" and "usb otg". Short answer is G1 cannot act as a usb host even though the cpu supports it. Reason is it is not wired to supply power to a usb slave device.

jashsu said:
Search the forum for "usb host" and "usb otg". Short answer is G1 cannot act as a usb host even though the cpu supports it. Reason is it is not wired to supply power to a usb slave device.
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Well.. if its just power, there are those USB hubs that you have to plug in AC power, I would think that would solve that issue there.

jashsu said:
Search the forum for "usb host" and "usb otg". Short answer is G1 cannot act as a usb host even though the cpu supports it. Reason is it is not wired to supply power to a usb slave device.
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well, theoretically, could a non-phantom powered microphone work then? if you got a decent small mic, you'd be able to record live music and such on the phone with pretty good quality. might be impractical but it would be interesting to see if it could work!

Isn't the microphone plugged to a non-usb pin on the HTC connector, like the headphones ?
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Yes, it is.. See diagram here : http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config

Not sure how the headphones are plugged in, but I would assume if someone has a miniusb device, Im sure debian would detect it in the reports. I cant rem the command I used in ubuntu to get info but would be interesting to see if something can be done.

It dawned on me... Anetshare turns the G1 into a Wifi peer to peer. So along with Bluetooth abilities. Which Who said that the Bluetooth couldnt be used to accept BT Keyboard/Mice or so? Same with Wifi, Using Wifi to maybe have a app on your PC use ITS controller, sending the data via Wifi (So the G1 is a server) and translating those into usable input commands? I mean I know I use that Joy2Key program in WinXP to map my joystick to keyboard/mice commands. Im sure something could work on the G1. Thoughts?

you mean like this?

ubernicholi said:
you mean like this?
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Well id say thats a start. Seems like nothing new has been up with it tho? Cause even if a BT Keyboard worked.. That would be a step in the right direction, hell could even play games a lil easier too.

[Q] Attach an External Keyboard to NOOKcolor

Has anybody made this work already?
I want to use NOOKcolor as a writing device as well as a reading device. Among other things, that means attaching a keyboard.
The NOOKcolor doesn't have an internal Bluetooth radio, so it looks like the mini-usb port is the last resort. I see two options (correct me if I'm wrong here):
Attach a Bluetooth adapter to the mini-usb port via adapter, get the bluetooth keyboard drivers to work
Attach a regular usb keyboard to the mini-usb port via adapter, get the regular keyboard drivers to work.
Pokey9000 says it looks like NOOKcolor has hardware components that support USB On-The-Go protocol (enabling a slave device like NOOKcolor to act a host device for a peripheral like a keyboard):
pokey9000 said:
In my digging through datasheets, it seems both the CPU and the PMIC chips used in the Nook Color support USB OTG, but it depends on how B&N wired them up. Time will tell if it actually works.
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Has anybody had any luck verifying NOOKcolor's hardware setup supports USB On-The-Go mode? Any success getting a keyboard hooked up and working?

I'm still holding out for the Ti OMAP 3621 chipset to have the BT enabled in the future, though I'll be using it for a BT GPS dongle and wireless headset. Devs will be working on it soon, after a tear down is done on a development unit.

I don't have URL posting status yet, but here is a text list of what I've been able to find:
GigaOm-dot-com posted a good compilation article on attaching a keyboard to your Android phone, including links to hacking your own dongle. Search:
"How To Add a USB Keyboard to an Android Phone"
langtoninfo-dot-com has a usb to mini-usb dongle. I haven't verified it'll work. Search:
"OTG Cable Adapter Mini USB A-plug - USB A-Socket".

I would like to somehow connect a gamepad to the nookcolor.

cyanogenmod 6 (cm6) ?
Newbie question: I've seen a post elsewhere hoping that "cm6" will make bluetooth devices possible.
norkoastal said:
I think lots of folks are waiting for CM6 which might unlock the NC bluetooth stack offering mouse, wiimote, and keyboard goodness with it.
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Are we talking cyanogen-mod 6, which launched Dec 6?
What help does this provide Nook Color?
TG

TabulaGaga said:
Newbie question: I've seen a post elsewhere hoping that "cm6" will make bluetooth devices possible.
Are we talking cyanogen-mod 6, which launched Dec 6?
What help does this provide Nook Color?
TG
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Cyanogen develops highly-praised custom ROMs on a variety of android devices. There's a donation thread, hoping to convince their team to develop for the NookColor. There's hope that someone can unlock bluetooth capabilities on the NookColor, and when people need something like that done, they often think of a cyanogen ROM as being the answer.

right now in cm 7 bluetooth is working, can i pair a bluetooth keyboard to nook?
isn't usually keyboard is wifi not blue tooth or the keyboard has its own blue tooth dongle, how to attach the dongle to nook, or will it work without the dongle?
anyone can advice?

innosia said:
right now in cm 7 bluetooth is working, can i pair a bluetooth keyboard to nook?
isn't usually keyboard is wifi not blue tooth or the keyboard has its own blue tooth dongle, how to attach the dongle to nook, or will it work without the dongle?
anyone can advice?
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I saw someone tried to use APPLE bluetooth keyboard and it works.......

some devices do pair and work with bugs and limited range (1ft?)

innosia said:
right now in cm 7 bluetooth is working, can i pair a bluetooth keyboard to nook?
isn't usually keyboard is wifi not blue tooth or the keyboard has its own blue tooth dongle, how to attach the dongle to nook, or will it work without the dongle?
anyone can advice?
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W?
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How do you end up replying to this six-month-old thread when there are DOZENS of threads on this topic, including a sticky? Please go browse the first page of the appropriate forum and you will find no fewer than three current threads on this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=863

Taosaur said:
W?
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How do you end up replying to this six-month-old thread when there are DOZENS of threads on this topic, including a sticky? Please go browse the first page of the appropriate forum and you will find no fewer than three current threads on this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=863
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Gee, I guess same way you do You crack me up. I'll bet you're one of those people who press "reply to all" to tell everyone not to press "reply to all"

anonimus.guy said:
Gee, I guess same way you do You crack me up. I'll bet you're one of those people who press "reply to all" to tell everyone not to press "reply to all"
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You have got to be kidding me....
Sent from my NookColor using Tapatalk

The irony...

The irony is, I'm in kind of a guilty place right now, so the necro-sequitur did make me feel a little bad about being dickish on the internet. Even attacking with pure stupid, sometimes you roll a 20.

USB Mic and Bluetooth Mic

Hey guys, new to the Rooting community, but I would first off like to thank each and every person that has put time into these projects. The possibilities that have been unlocked on different devices has been enormous and its all thanks to the dev community.
I do however have a question, I recently took my NC and installed Ginger Bread and then Ice Cream Sandwich onto it with no troubles. However upon reading everything that has to do with Bluetooth Audio Input and USB Hosting, theres something that doesn't quite add up.
I can successfully connect to my Bluetooth headset with both the built in Bluetooth and a Rocket Fish dongle that I used through USB Hosting. However I get no audio input, I know that this is a known problem and it has to do with a possible lack of audio codecs and some other ideas that I have seen thrown around.
What doesn't add up though, is that when I connect my Logitech USB Microphone using USB Hosting it works perfect and gets picked up by every app. So my question is, what is the difference between the USB built in drivers and the Bluetooth driver that was unlocked?
From my understanding the Audio input file, driver or whatever it may be sits as a separate file. So with that in mind wouldn't that mean that the file exists, because the USB Microphone is using, so why exactly doesnt the Bluetooth connection pick up the Bluetooth ear piece as a microphone and refer it to the same audio input file?
Once again this is basically me spit balling and asking some questions. I was looking through the source code for the Nook Tablet (Trying to find its internal mic driver) and noticed that there was an audio C file and was wondering if that is what is being used by the USB devices to recognize Audio Input.
Anyways, any response would be great, one of the last tweaks that I would love to help get worked out as I planned on making myself a lovely Voice Control app to run on my Nook Color, and a Huge USB headset is rather illogical.

vadlak said:
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the source code for the Nook Tablet (Trying to find its internal mic driver) and noticed that there was an audio C file and was wondering if that is what is being used by the USB devices to recognize Audio Input.
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Since you're apparently asking a question about a Nook Tablet, not a Nook Color, you should probably redirect it to that forum.

Audio on Linux and therefore Android is a huge can of worms that even most developers can't figure out. Bluetooth is yet another very difficult library and has its own way of dealing with audio in and out. A2DP media audio out protocol has no audio in capability. As far as I know, no one has ever sorted out or enabled hands-free protocol for the NC, which is what it would take to do a headset with mic.

using external mic and an app like garageband (as on iphone)

Hi, I can't see any way to plug an external condensor mic into my new nexus 4, pretty bummed if that is the case.
I would like to use my phone as a portable recorder that can record sounds in at least cd quality and use some sort of mic I will have to buy.
Much like everyone is doing with their iphones and garageband, maybe the nexus isn't able to do it, there is no hardware problem, my 1st ibook with a 512 mb memory could do this without a single issue, I imagine this device can do it but maybe it isn't made with any thought of getting external audio into it ?
Makes me thing I need an iphone after all.

blendobass said:
Hi, I can't see any way to plug an external condensor mic into my new nexus 4, pretty bummed if that is the case.
I would like to use my phone as a portable recorder that can record sounds in at least cd quality and use some sort of mic I will have to buy.
Much like everyone is doing with their iphones and garageband, maybe the nexus isn't able to do it, there is no hardware problem, my 1st ibook with a 512 mb memory could do this without a single issue, I imagine this device can do it but maybe it isn't made with any thought of getting external audio into it ?
Makes me thing I need an iphone after all.
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USB OTG (On the go) is not supported in this phone by stock. None of the developers have been able to figure it out as of now but it may be possible. Another limitation is the voltage the USB hardware is able to provide which we do not know for sure yet. If it is lower than usb spec (and hence USB OTG is not supported stock) then you won't be able to power your mic with the phone.
TL;DR No this phone won't accept your usb microphone, maybe in the future with further research by devs.

smacksa said:
USB OTG (On the go) is not supported in this phone by stock. None of the developers have been able to figure it out as of now but it may be possible. Another limitation is the voltage the USB hardware is able to provide which we do not know for sure yet. If it is lower than usb spec (and hence USB OTG is not supported stock) then you won't be able to power your mic with the phone.
TL;DR No this phone won't accept your usb microphone, maybe in the future with further research by devs.
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That really sucks, lol.. and it did say this phone has "OTG" usb on the google page for the specs for the phone, no ?
Now i see why i need an iphone, i can't even find a note taking program i can manually sync between mac and android (like I did with my blackberry for 10 years) without using cloud storage and stuff, I don't want my stuff on a cloud.

Yes the original marketing material referred to the device having USB OTG. It was removed sometime near release and the rumor we have is that the device can't provide the full 5V required by USB specifications.
As far as no cloud solutions, I'm not really sure what your apprehensions are. Apple is going to sync your notes the same way Google/Evernote would. The days of using a cable to sync your device have passed.

he's trolling...he knows this phone doesnt have OTG

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can't connect ps3 controller over blue toot

haha I like calling it blu toot!
anyone had success using six axis ps3 controller app with nook hd+?
I was looking forward to finally having jelly bean on this tablet since
ICS has a tendency to change blue tooth addresses every time it's rebooted.
I ran the free compatibility checker from the play store, it said the nook would work.
So I used the pc pairing tool to change my ps3 controller to the address of the nook.
It won't connect.
I even got a usb gender changer to connect it directly to the nook and pair it, it won't do it.
Anyone have success pairing ps3 controller with nook hd+?

pdx1138 said:
I even got a usb gender changer to connect it directly to the nook and pair it, it won't do it.
Anyone have success pairing ps3 controller with nook hd+?
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USB connection with the controller most definitely works, I tried it myself (you can also see it working in my original usbhost video).
I did not look into BT support as it sounds to be somewhat more involved than just pairing (usb connection very easy on the other hand, just plug the controller in and it jsut works (don't forget to turn it on by pressing the "start" button (triangle shaped)).

Where's the video?

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Where's the video?
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Referenced from the original usbhost support announcement

aha! but you used a usb hub in the middle! didn't know I needed that.
The thing is though, the ps3 controller SHOULD definitely be able to connect
over blue-tooth, but it isn't with CM 10.1 for some reason...
I can't be the only one that would rather connect it wirelessly.
It works on nearly every tablet ever made as long as root is enabled.
if you don't mind, maybe you could download the free six axis compatibility checker
so you can see what I mean.

pdx1138 said:
aha! but you used a usb hub in the middle! didn't know I needed that.
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You would know if you'd check your dmesg to see that the ps3 controller claims it needs too much power to operate (Which it does not).
Also it's addressed in all other usb threads that devices that claim they need more than 100mA need to be hidden behind USB hub (unpowered is usually fine too).
The thing is though, the ps3 controller SHOULD definitely be able to connect
over blue-tooth, but it isn't with CM 10.1 for some reason...
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With BT overhaul in Android 4.2 a lot of things broke on fundamental level, I know wiimotes are totally broken, it well might be that ps3 controllers are in the same boat and you'll need to wait until Google gets around to actually release unbroken implementation in 4.3
if you don't mind, maybe you could download the free six axis compatibility checker
so you can see what I mean.
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I guess I might try it one day. But my cursory reading indicates thre's some nonfree tool needed at one point in the process.
The six axis compat checker seems to only check that you have rooted device, and that's all it does.

That makes sense...didn't know it was broken implementation.
thanks very much for your words.

I can verify Sixaxis does work with CM 10.1 because I am running CM on my At&t Galaxy S2. I do not understand why with Verygreen's CM version it does not work. I mean since he is building from CM source.

very interesting...I wonder if it has to do with tablet aspects of cm 10.1
thanks for posting that Ederok.
I did get the controller working, by hooking it up to a non powered hub via usb cable, but would be so much better to use wireless blue tooth.

pdx1138 said:
very interesting...I wonder if it has to do with tablet aspects of cm 10.1
thanks for posting that Ederok.
I did get the controller working, by hooking it up to a non powered hub via usb cable, but would be so much better to use wireless blue tooth.
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Your welcome. I really hope the issue gets resolved in future releases. [crosses fingers]

ederok said:
Your welcome. I really hope the issue gets resolved in future releases. [crosses fingers]
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If it's not fixed soon I might be getting the new N7 when it releases and give my nook to someone else. A big reason that I bought this thing in the first place was so I could have a bigger screen for playing games wirelessly and knew that it was supported by CM but apparently not without its quirks