Hi, I can't see any way to plug an external condensor mic into my new nexus 4, pretty bummed if that is the case.
I would like to use my phone as a portable recorder that can record sounds in at least cd quality and use some sort of mic I will have to buy.
Much like everyone is doing with their iphones and garageband, maybe the nexus isn't able to do it, there is no hardware problem, my 1st ibook with a 512 mb memory could do this without a single issue, I imagine this device can do it but maybe it isn't made with any thought of getting external audio into it ?
Makes me thing I need an iphone after all.
blendobass said:
Hi, I can't see any way to plug an external condensor mic into my new nexus 4, pretty bummed if that is the case.
I would like to use my phone as a portable recorder that can record sounds in at least cd quality and use some sort of mic I will have to buy.
Much like everyone is doing with their iphones and garageband, maybe the nexus isn't able to do it, there is no hardware problem, my 1st ibook with a 512 mb memory could do this without a single issue, I imagine this device can do it but maybe it isn't made with any thought of getting external audio into it ?
Makes me thing I need an iphone after all.
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USB OTG (On the go) is not supported in this phone by stock. None of the developers have been able to figure it out as of now but it may be possible. Another limitation is the voltage the USB hardware is able to provide which we do not know for sure yet. If it is lower than usb spec (and hence USB OTG is not supported stock) then you won't be able to power your mic with the phone.
TL;DR No this phone won't accept your usb microphone, maybe in the future with further research by devs.
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USB OTG (On the go) is not supported in this phone by stock. None of the developers have been able to figure it out as of now but it may be possible. Another limitation is the voltage the USB hardware is able to provide which we do not know for sure yet. If it is lower than usb spec (and hence USB OTG is not supported stock) then you won't be able to power your mic with the phone.
TL;DR No this phone won't accept your usb microphone, maybe in the future with further research by devs.
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That really sucks, lol.. and it did say this phone has "OTG" usb on the google page for the specs for the phone, no ?
Now i see why i need an iphone, i can't even find a note taking program i can manually sync between mac and android (like I did with my blackberry for 10 years) without using cloud storage and stuff, I don't want my stuff on a cloud.
Yes the original marketing material referred to the device having USB OTG. It was removed sometime near release and the rumor we have is that the device can't provide the full 5V required by USB specifications.
As far as no cloud solutions, I'm not really sure what your apprehensions are. Apple is going to sync your notes the same way Google/Evernote would. The days of using a cable to sync your device have passed.
he's trolling...he knows this phone doesnt have OTG
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I wonder if the USB on the Nexus One allows me to connect an external hard drive. I'm only talking about data transmission with externally powered USB-devices. The N1 doesn't need to power USB-devices for me to be satisfied.
And if not: could the deficiency possibly be mended software-wise, or is it a limitation of the hardware itself?
Thanks beforehand!
no it cannot be the host. Read this on a google forum, someone posted the link as an answer to a similar question yesterday.
Thank you for your answer, britoso!
But oh, what a pitty!!!
Can't it possibly be fixed by booting with another software driver or something?
What's the point of removing this ability? It seems completely ridiculous. It gains nothing at all to "un-specify" USB host capability:
"Now, I have my files on this USB memory stick and here's the Nexus One. Oh, what's the use. Google didn't care at all about this kind of scenaria..."
Well, let's see what can be done with bulky wireless adapters and stuff like that then, to mend this unnecessary fail of the N1... I probably need to use a PC running Windows and a cable internet in order to have any use at all of the N1. Was this the purpose of this deliberate design "feature"?!?
this feature was not removed, but simply never implemented into the Android OS (afaik). if USB was host that means anything connected to it would have to draw power from the Nexus One's battery. Im sure HTC does not want this, because some things connected to USB can put incredible stress on a battery.
I thought the inability was due to a USB design that will allow charging, but doesn't allow hosting.
(at least that what I gathered about the n900 and why it couldn't act as a host.)
edit: nevermind nokia opted to skip on the go support to get the product out faster.
I don't know if there's a hardware limitation in place, but even if there isn't, the software does not support it.
There's an app for the n900 to add host support in the maemo repository. Don't know if it works though. I've always thought host support was due to the software.
Go here:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=738
Sign in with your google ID. Vote for the feature by clicking the star.
(While you are there, click on "Back to list" and browse for other issues/features you care about and "star" them too...)
Its been accomplished on the Droid... Host mode works, but as there are no drivers, anything that runs over usb will turn on / charge but not connect.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/droid-gets-a-usb-hack-allowing-it-to-control-printers-and-camera/
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Its been accomplished on the Droid... Host mode works, but as there are no drivers, anything that runs over usb will turn on / charge but not connect.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/droid-gets-a-usb-hack-allowing-it-to-control-printers-and-camera/
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Thanks for posting this as I saw this on another site and came here to raise awareness. I've heard that someone got a USB keyboard working over USB host. Could someone try this out on their N1?
Does anyone know of a kernel allowing users to "hot plug" a USB DAC to get audio out?
Poitee and Trinity seems to support at least USB audio after a reboot, but so far I have had no luck identifying something that will simply allow me to place my Nexus 7 in my dock (with OTG USB DAC connected) and have the audio automatically routed through the external USB DAC.
Therefore, does anyone know of a rom/kernel allowing this (since my Samsung Galaxy S3 can do this)?
No one out there who knows? :crying:
I'll second this. I am installing my Nexus 7 semi-permanent in my Car, and i'd like to take it out and use internal sound without rebooting it every single time.
// Per.
Yeah, I was keen on making a car install too, but this is for a dock I am building.
I can tell you it involves B&O design and pure awesomeness, guess I cannot post images or give links until I reach 10 posts though.
Hotplug USB audio is indeed possible on the Nexus 7, it seems that a few of us all have similar plans for our Nexus's
Give this a try -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2029728
If you have any issues try and reply in that thread so we keep them all in the same place.
Ok, so I've been trawling the threads for hours and the time has come to make my first post on this..
Here's what I really want to do, and whether or not, as I understand, I can do it:
Nexus 7 in dash, 3G model - fine, been done loads of times
250GB USB HDD, connected via USB OTG, containing my music library - possibly, depends on my hard drive? Will it work if I can provide a secondary source of power to the HDD (my caddy allows this)
Charge the N7 at the same time - again possibly, with CM10 and kernel mod? Also new to Android so shooting in the dark a bit here.
OPTIONAL/BACKUP IDEAS:
Wi-Fi drive of some sort - If it works then maybe, seems like an extreme option though for a car install.
Google Music and stream my entire collection (I have 15GB monthly data sim that I can use in the N7) - will work but not ideal for me. I have a lot of lossless music which I won't be able to take advantage of this way. Which brings me on to...
USB DAC through OTG cable - possible I know, but to do this on top of the other stuff is gonna be difficult and unreliable? Can live with just the headphone jack output for the time being, unless:
Utilise the pogo pins for a line out and charging - would be a nice solution in the car but again, possible?
It would be fantastic if someone could tie this all together simply for me somehow, or if anyone has any far better ideas for what I'm trying to do :good:
Also feel free to ridicule my noob-ness
Cheers
Does anyone know how I would be able to play music in my car through usb? I am currently using tune link which uses Bluetooth and 3.5 jack. The issue I have, is that I have to change the song using my phone rather than the control buttons on my steering wheel. Sounds dumb, but I hate having to pick up my phone and navigate to screen to change the song.
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Try using an OTG, it enables the phone to be used as a typical computer usb port.
I will try that.
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Yeah that didn't work.
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Have 100% the same problem. Did anybody find the solution? My old Xperia Acr connected like a common flash card and worked fine. Now I have to use AUX and this is not so comfortable =/
Why do you use a cable AND Bluetooth ? Does you car have AD2P ? If it has you should be able to play music through your phones BT and have the steerring controls . I have a Kenwood head unit DNX 9140 and when i pair my phone to it, i can play music and still keep steering controls over BT
The music out via USB was removed on the s5...was present on the s4.
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The music out via USB was removed on the s5...was present on the s4.
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Not true. There is a lot of misinformation promulgated on the subject. Music out on USB works fine on my S5 just as it did on the S4, S3, S2 and S1..
But that isn't to say that Samsung, Google or (especially) the automotive audio equipment cartel make much effort towards standardized interoperability. It's frankly a mess, a hodge podge of half ass implementations and proprietary protocols that usually don't play nicely together. It can be made to work with carefully chosen components or creative approaches. But randomly connecting components from two different vendors typically fails.
While Samsung and Google could be characterized as only having made a minimal effort to provide standardized USB support.. that is still leagues ahead of what most automotive audio vendors have done. Not to mention that it's routine to find inaccurate details, if not outright lies of what automotive component X will supposedly interconnect with. I sometimes wonder if their marketing departments even bother to collate real facts on the subject before they write their copy.
It's not too hard to find decent DACs and headphone amps that will accept USB audio out from the S5, but I frankly gave up trying to figure out what would or wouldn't work on the automotive end. I ended up going with a brute force approach and installed a SBC (miniature PC) in my car. Having a full PC as a middleman, means that there is a vast array of powerful software (and hardware) that can slice, dice and format the control stream to whatever is needed by the auto head unit. But it's hardly a simple or off the shelf solution.
The OP can probably find a working solution if he searches hard enough. The S5 has USB audio out, although making it work with some car decks requires a combination of root, custom kernels (proper USB host support) and audio apps. An app like USB Audio Player, in conjunction with a kernel that has proper USB host support will satisfy many auto decks.
Hopefully Android L will give us better USB support. But it also depends on how sane your automotive equipment vendor was when they designed your car deck too.
Further reading for any stray audiophiles around here:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3XYy1FuzDUeZDNBSVpjQU9Nd2s/edit?pli=1
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/173-2...-audio-any-android-4-0-smartphone-tablet.html
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3XYy1FuzDUea3U3aTJ1RkpQdW8/edit
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The problem is that since 4.1.2,USB Mass Storage was removed.
Most, if not all, radios, media players, etc don't support the MTP protocol. They require a mass storage device, and do not support a media device.
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MTP is a newer and much more capable protocol. The problem in your example is that radio, etc vendors are stuck in the past and not adopting newer standards.
MSC (mass storage) has many serious drawbacks that are overcome by the newer transactional protocol. MTP was standardized six years ago, which is just short of forever in consumer electronics. So one has to wonder why the radio vendors continue to drag their heels and can't get with the program.
It's like blaming Android for having moved to flash memory.. and refusing to go along. Expecting everyone to continue using cassette tapes instead. Yes that would be one way to maintain compatibity. But it doesn't make a lot of objective sense.
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ShadowLea said:
The problem is that since 4.1.2,USB Mass Storage was removed.
Most, if not all, radios, media players, etc don't support the MTP protocol. They require a mass storage device, and do not support a media device.
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Yes, and for activation Mass Storage root is required ...
Guys, but what about using USB analog audio input? I remember I did something like that with Galaxy S II - from 5 mini USB pins one was used to sense what phone is connecting to - for ex if it is a car dock, desk dock or... should it enable analog audio output on USB data pins.
Unfortunately I no longer have dock I made back then, anyone knows if that might work with S5?
EDIT: check this out!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321491
EDIT2: Oh it seems I completely missed the point, you want to use it as mass storage to connect to car USB port.
Had Iphone 6 USB on my 2011 Buick Regal USB Audio worked flawless, my wife's phone LG G4 works great.
Got tired of apple & decided to go with Samsung Note 4 now I cant get it to work, tried multiple cables, update to Lollipop 5.0 & 5.1 & none of these worked.
Called Buick they said I should use AUX cable instead, obviously I did not like that response.
DoI need to root? or is this a lost cause.
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Had Iphone 6 USB on my 2011 Buick Regal USB Audio worked flawless, my wife's phone LG G4 works great.
Got tired of apple & decided to go with Samsung Note 4 now I cant get it to work, tried multiple cables, update to Lollipop 5.0 & 5.1 & none of these worked.
Called Buick they said I should use AUX cable instead, obviously I did not like that response.
DoI need to root? or is this a lost cause.
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I would post a link to a website with pictures and information about what you are talking about as I have no idea what that is.
Once I understand what exactly it is I might be able help.
Just guessing but are you talking about some kind of headphone cable that uses USB to connect instead of jack?
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I would post a link to a website with pictures and information about what you are talking about as I have no idea what that is.
Once I understand what exactly it is I might be able help.
Just guessing but are you talking about some kind of headphone cable that uses USB to connect instead of jack?
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edmunds (dot) com/buick/regal/2011/long-term-road-test/2011-buick-regal-cxl-turbo-pop-out-usb-port.html
Link attached is the USB port in car, you plug in any IOS device or LG apparently & it picks up the audio being played.
The Bluetooth feature doesn't support audio, was relying on the USB port to play music in car over Google Play.
Before getting android I tried a Samsung S4 Active & it would appear it registered it but would immediately disconnect on both sides.
I figured it was hardware side as my wifes LG G4 worked perfect decided to switch my iPhone for a Note 4 & when I plug it in the USB nothing happens.
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edmunds (dot) com/buick/regal/2011/long-term-road-test/2011-buick-regal-cxl-turbo-pop-out-usb-port.html
Link attached is the USB port in car, you plug in any IOS device or LG apparently & it picks up the audio being played.
The Bluetooth feature doesn't support audio, was relying on the USB port to play music in car over Google Play.
Before getting android I tried a Samsung S4 Active & it would appear it registered it but would immediately disconnect on both sides.
I figured it was hardware side as my wifes LG G4 worked perfect decided to switch my iPhone for a Note 4 & when I plug it in the USB nothing happens.
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OK link is useless as I cannot click it.
Have you checked if the company you got the USB from makes any kind of app or driver to use on some android phones?
I can assure you Bluetooth audio works very well as I use it often with my Bluetooth speakers. I also used it to stream music to my Sony car stereo via Bluetooth.
I have never used the USB to stream music but I know that there is an app that does some thing to make phone simulate a USB stick so if you where to connect the phone via USB to a stereo deck it would play the music on the deck from the phone.
Sadly I cannot remember what it was called.
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OK link is useless as I cannot click it.
Have you checked if the company you got the USB from makes any kind of app or driver to use on some android phones?
I can assure you Bluetooth audio works very well as I use it often with my Bluetooth speakers. I also used it to stream music to my Sony car stereo via Bluetooth.
I have never used the USB to stream music but I know that there is an app that does some thing to make phone simulate a USB stick so if you where to connect the phone via USB to a stereo deck it would play the music on the deck from the phone.
Sadly I cannot remember what it was called.
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copy link & replace (Dot) with a . , 2011 Buick does not support Bluetooth audio.
I've heard of this app but it required root, I'd be willing to root the phone but the amount of Firmware & versions seems like asking for trouble.
T-mobile Note 4
Silverobot said:
copy link & replace (Dot) with a . , 2011 Buick does not support Bluetooth audio.
I've heard of this app but it required root, I'd be willing to root the phone but the amount of Firmware & versions seems like asking for trouble.
T-mobile Note 4
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Well I can't copy as I use tapatalk.
www.google.com
Easy to make a clickeble link.
OK so that buick thing is not the USB cable so I assume it's some kind of speaker system.
Regarding the root. Custom roms are much better then bloated stock roms in my opinion so it's well worth it and specially now that Note 5 ports are out.
Plus even if you wish to keep stock rom just rooting it will give you full ownership over your phone but nonrooted users can't really say the own there phones as both Samsung and phone company have more control over your phone then you ?
Anyways I strongly suggest you at least root the phone. No need to change firmware if you don't want to but the rooting process alone will give you unlimited freedom with the phone beyond the possibility of icrap can offer with jailbreak.
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Silverobot said:
copy link & replace (Dot) with a . , 2011 Buick does not support Bluetooth audio.
I've heard of this app but it required root, I'd be willing to root the phone but the amount of Firmware & versions seems like asking for trouble.
T-mobile Note 4
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Do you stream through USB or using MTP & treat your Phone as a USB Storage?
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I found this thread & I hope it will help you.
USB Flash Drive use in Audio System
There's a possibility that your Note 4 microSD card was formatted using exFAT & the "old" Buick USB system can't recognize it.
Try to use FAT32 (with its inferiority towards exFAT).
Another solution is using AUX (Draining Note 4 battery)
Last resort is using USB flash drive
NOTE:
Some system can only recognize limited size of USB storage.
Some are limited only to 4 GB, some can only read 32GB & won't read anything with larger capacity.
d4rkkn16ht said:
Do you stream through USB or using MTP & treat your Phone as a USB Storage?
EDIT:
I found this thread & I hope it will help you.
There's a possibility that your Note 4 microSD card was formatted using exFAT & the "old" Buick USB system can't recognize it.
Try to use FAT32 (with its inferiority towards exFAT).
Another solution is using AUX (Draining Note 4 battery)
Last resort is using USB flash drive
NOTE:
Some system can only recognize limited size of USB storage.
Some are limited only to 4 GB, some can only read 32GB & won't read anything with larger capacity.
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Stream over USB going to see what I can think of, was going to get LG phone but was told not to did not expect Samsung to have these issues but def going to root now. Thank you
Silverobot said:
Stream over USB going to see what I can think of, was going to get LG phone but was told not to did not expect Samsung to have these issues but def going to root now. Thank you
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Sorry for asking this, but do you know what streaming means? (no offense )
If you are streaming the music, it means you are playing the music from your Mobile Phone & direct the sound out of it through either USB, Bluetooth or AUX.
So Streaming will drain your Phone battery.
Usually, car USB system doesn't do this.
Car USB system usually access any device connected through USB as a USB Mass Storage Device & then play the content using its own built in Audio System.
Have you checked the link I gave you?
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Sorry for asking this, but do you know what streaming means? (no offense )
If you are streaming the music, it means you are playing the music from your Mobile Phone & direct the sound out of it through either USB, Bluetooth or AUX.
So Streaming will drain your Phone battery.
Usually, car USB system doesn't do this.
Car USB system usually access any device connected through USB as a USB Mass Storage Device & then play the content using its own built in Audio System.
Have you checked the link I gave you?
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My car USB does have this feature can play audio of a youtube vid, google play radio, pandora, ect over USB on selected devices it seems.
As stated above it works fine with an LG & IOS phones but has yet to work on Samsung.
Thought there could be a quick fix out there, but that doesnt seem to be the case.
More likely going to swap my phone out for an LG if I can find someone willing.
Worst case scenario I have a iphone 4 which I will use via hotspot in the car.
Silverobot said:
My car USB does have this feature can play audio of a youtube vid, google play radio, pandora, ect over USB on selected devices it seems.
As stated above it works fine with an LG & IOS phones but has yet to work on Samsung.
Thought there could be a quick fix out there, but that doesnt seem to be the case.
More likely going to swap my phone out for an LG if I can find someone willing.
Worst case scenario I have a iphone 4 which I will use via hotspot in the car.
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Do you mean that you play your media on your Car System?
If you do, then check your microSD.
May be your LG use FAT32 for its microSD & Note 4 use exFAT for its microSD.
Some 2011 car systems can't recognize exFAT filesystem.
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Do you mean that you play your media on your Car System?
If you do, then check your microSD.
May be your LG use FAT32 for its microSD & Note 4 use exFAT for its microSD.
Some 2011 car systems can't recognize exFAT filesystem.
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Thanks for suggestion but it did not work, for the meantime using an Iphone 4 via hotspot for my normal commute I just use FM radio.
Was thinking maybe I can have hotspot automatically turn on when I'm in my car but that might be too much to ask for with current technology.
You win some, you lose some this one I lost no one interested in changing Note 4 for LG G4 in my area.