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USB Keyboard Support?

Picked up an A500 today after carefully reading through the documentation on Acer's support site as well as the user manual for mentions of USB keyboard support. It says implicitly that there IS support for USB keyboards (just not USB mice yet). However...I can't get a single USB keyboard to work (I've tried 3). Anyone tried this yet and gotten it working? I know the USB slot is working ok, because it reads a thumb drive just fine. Thanks!

meatlocker said:
Picked up an A500 today after carefully reading through the documentation on Acer's support site as well as the user manual for mentions of USB keyboard support. It says implicitly that there IS support for USB keyboards (just not USB mice yet). However...I can't get a single USB keyboard to work (I've tried 3). Anyone tried this yet and gotten it working? I know the USB slot is working ok, because it reads a thumb drive just fine. Thanks!
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I have had no problem with the one USB keyboard I've tried. It's a generic Apple clone from Deal Extreme.
No luck with Bluetooth keyboards though.

i could not get it to work with wireless USB keyboards but it did work with a dell USB keyboard.

it works with a logitech wireless keyboard

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I tried a Dell keyboard, and it worked. One of the things I really hoped was going to work was the GTab case/usb keyboard combo ...the A500 fits perfectly in this case, even more snuggly than the GTab. I can't understand why it doesn't work.

meatlocker said:
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I tried a Dell keyboard, and it worked. One of the things I really hoped was going to work was the GTab case/usb keyboard combo ...the A500 fits perfectly in this case, even more snuggly than the GTab. I can't understand why it doesn't work.
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I tried a cheap chinese case/usb keyboard combo and it worked but the a500 doesn't fit in...

USB keyboard
Got a case/stand for my vega for £20 of amazon which has a built in usb keyboard, tried it on the iconia works 100%
Actually I think having mouse support would be nicer, maybe in imminent 3.1 release.

KEyboard
I did not have a regular USB keyboard laying around so I tried a PS/2 using a PS/2 to USB adapter and worked perfect.

VitaZora said:
I have had no problem with the one USB keyboard I've tried. It's a generic Apple clone from Deal Extreme.
No luck with Bluetooth keyboards though.
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Just posted in the "Iconia A500 Accessories" forum... I tested the Logitech Cordless MediaBoard Pro for PS3 (bluetooth keybd) and it worked !

Something people may need to note: When I plug a keyboard in while the screen is off, or is locked, it does not work. If I first login, THEN plug in the keyboard (Logitech multimedia USB keyboard) it works great.

i tried some cheap micro keyboard+trackpad combo (about as wide as the tablet in landscape) & had issues. Only time it worked was when I was in the URL bar of the browser, "physical keyboard" showed as an input type option. Anywhere else it just sat plugged in. I may steal my dad's Mac BT keyboard since he doesn't use it. Will clash horribly though

I've got it running on a BT Keyboard/mouse device Works great... I've had issues with the headphones plug not stopping my music... (listen to Hard Rock at work and everyone hears it =(oops).. pull headphones and plug them back in... lots of really little niggles that need to be worked out... hopefully acer will find them all with the update next month!!!

threedfreek said:
I've got it running on a BT Keyboard/mouse device Works great... I've had issues with the headphones plug not stopping my music... (listen to Hard Rock at work and everyone hears it =(oops).. pull headphones and plug them back in... lots of really little niggles that need to be worked out... hopefully acer will find them all with the update next month!!!
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Ohhhh! I've always wondered about that keyboard! Does the trackpad work? How's typing with that keypad?

Touch pad works great for pc and playstation 3... etc... but for the acer it does nothing... Arrows work to get from item to item typing works great... I believe an update will/can allow mouse...
FYI... this device comes with it's own bt usb adapter that is really weak however, when connected to a bluetooth device has decent distance.

threedfreek said:
Touch pad works great for pc and playstation 3... etc... but for the acer it does nothing... Arrows work to get from item to item typing works great... I believe an update will/can allow mouse...
FYI... this device comes with it's own bt usb adapter that is really weak however, when connected to a bluetooth device has decent distance.
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How's the hardware? Solid? Connectivity in and out? And how easy/difficult was it to pair? I've read that a lot of these no-name devices don't come with specific instructions on pairing.

rorytmeadows said:
How's the hardware? Solid? Connectivity in and out? And how easy/difficult was it to pair? I've read that a lot of these no-name devices don't come with specific instructions on pairing.
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Pairing was as simple (on my samsung epic) as searching for devices.
1. push the bluetooth button till the light blinks
2. Search for devices
3. type in a passcode on phone/device
4. type that passcode on the keyboard
I think this is how it was done... worked really well first time to my epic... easily connected on my a500 too. I love the keyboad it works with my entertainment pc that has sagetv on it so controlling the 47" from the couch is awesome.
edit: Hardware is really solid and the bt usb device slides into the keyboard... really convenient

I managed to pair with my Apple wireless KB but no love for typing.

ramy717 said:
i could not get it to work with wireless USB keyboards but it did work with a dell USB keyboard.
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ditto here.

peyotll said:
I tried a cheap chinese case/usb keyboard combo and it worked but the a500 doesn't fit in...
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Which one?
EVO Mobile

My cherry keyboard doesn't seem to run. Sad
DMESG says the following:
<6>[ 660.363583] usb 1-1: new low speed USB device using tegra-ehci and address 6
<6>[ 660.410104] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=046a, idProduct=0023
<6>[ 660.410487] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0
<6>[ 688.559913] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 6

[Q] Audio via USB?

Since the Nook Simple Touch does not have an audio jack, it's a deal breaker for me.
However, might there be some way to route audio via usb -> 1/8th TRS? If so, I would definitely jump on the device and buy it as soon as I get some money to spend on new toys.

Bluetooth maybe?
Well since the Nook Color hardware is so close to the N2E, since they have working bluetooth, I bet it won't be too long until we see the N2E with it as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897934&highlight=bluetooth
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032834&highlight=bluetooth

Bluetooth is great, but it has quality issues. Is there any way to get audio straight out of USB?

would this soulve the ****ty audio hardware issues? my car offers USB bt and aux would USB do the trick?
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cephasara said:
Well since the Nook Color hardware is so close to the N2E, since they have working bluetooth, I bet it won't be too long until we see the N2E with it as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897934&highlight=bluetooth
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032834&highlight=bluetooth
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I suppose giving our nook bluetooth would be without sense - why ebook reader would have it?
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domi.nos said:
I suppose giving our nook bluetooth would be without sense - why ebook reader would have it?
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Well I believe the SoC includes Bluetooth hardware. Since it's there why not have that ability on the Nook as well. Enabling Bluetooth could solve general lack of audio issues for some people.

I thought I saw it somewhere that it's concluded Nook STR does NOT have function BT?

This week at Walmart I saw a USB / Bluetooth adapter. I believe you would need a micro-USB adapter to connect it to the Nook. But as I was looking at it, I was thinking of this thread and wondering if you could make the physical connections work, would the nook end up with Bluetooth capability.
Any thoughts on if this would work or not ?

not bleutooth ...
the thread seems to be going into bleutooth mode...
Was wondering if connectiing a headphone with a microusb adapter would help get the audio?
like say this micro usb to headphones adapter
www[dot]amazon[dot]com/Samsung-Headset-Adapter-Strive-Flight/dp/B003W057FS/ref=pd_cp_cps_1
same as catzilla this would really help me decide on the nook touch

People seem to get it working with the nook colour, so it may be for the touch as well.
First step is to get USB host mode
check this thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1105497

Saombra,
But this only works on CM7. Still waiting for something that may run on regular nook android. And it is quite scary that you may fry your usb on th enook in case you forget to switch it back to client mode before connecting to your computer.

apeine said:
Saombra,
But this only works on CM7. Still waiting for something that may run on regular nook android. And it is quite scary that you may fry your usb on th enook in case you forget to switch it back to client mode before connecting to your computer.
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Someone with a little patience could probably take the required code from the latest CM 2.6.29 kernel sources and apply it to the Nook kernel sources.
Also I seem to recall that the "usb power issue" was solved some time ago?
USB host mode is nice and all that, but are there actually any libs in Android that can push audio trough USB?
I remember dreaming of being able to connect my X10 to an external DAC, but that was before I invested in a couple of squeezeboxes

Well, I hope we can find someone with time and knowledge to do so.
And regarding the usb host, that is the information I found from saombra's post.
I don't know regarding library, but I know that in this post those guys learned how to get audio from a dock using a samsung smartphone usb port. So there is a way. Maybe the only way.

bluetooth completely borked. fix it google!

I've been trying to get a BT mouse to work on my nexus 4.
i've now tried 2 different models, without success.
both are recognized, both pair and then both completely fail to work.
to add insult to injury, i tried one of those mice on a friend's samsung google nexus today -- also running jellybean -- and it worked perfectly.
could anybody running a BT mouse successfully SINCE THE LAST UPDATE (4.2.1) let me know what make/model they have?
EDIT: maybe they heard me ...
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articl...jelly-bean-update-bluetooth-fix-exclusive.htm

i understand your frustration, but just one question.. why are you using a bluetooth mouse on a phone? tablet, understandable but phone?!

khanh1289 said:
i understand your frustration, but just one question.. why are you using a bluetooth mouse on a phone? tablet, understandable but phone?!
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take a nexus 4 + slimport adaptor + BT mouse + BT keyboard,
add an lcd TV with hdmi input (now common in hotels etc.),
and you have:
- a portable PC
- a decent home media centre (with armchair remote input)
- possibly a productivity tool for editing text/ photos etc. for which a touchscreen is too inprecise an input device.
understand now?

Instead of doing all that why wouldn't you just go wireless display and then use the phone as the remote at the sametime? Wouldn't that make more sense?
And AFAIK, bluetooth input devices weren't supported?

sorry, i typically use a laptop for those things. It would make a lot more sense btw. You can also use your phone as a bluetooth mouse/keyboard if you have a laptop that connects to a tv.

shotta35 said:
Instead of doing all that why wouldn't you just go wireless display and then use the phone as the remote at the sametime? Wouldn't that make more sense?
And AFAIK, bluetooth input devices weren't supported?
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???
a/ i haven't a clue what "go wireless display" means.
b/ "use the phone as a remote" ... for what exactly? and how does that help me?
c/ where has google stated that "bluetooth input devices weren't supported"? that's nonsense.
re-read my previous post and try to get your head around what i am trying to achieve.

theabsurdman said:
???
a/ i haven't a clue what "go wireless display" means.
b/ "use the phone as a remote" ... for what exactly? and how does that help me?
c/ where has google stated that "bluetooth input devices weren't supported"? that's nonsense.
re-read my previous post and try to get your head around what i am trying to achieve.
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Wow, you are quite "the absurd man". If you're trying to find help in a forum, it's best if you be a bit nicer. We're both trying to give you better alternatives to what you're trying to accomplish. To answer your questions...
A/wireless display technology is built in with the n4 and jelly bean and it's not yet widely available to most tv's yet but achievable with adapters.
B/so you don't have to carry around a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. It helps you with 2 less things you carry (unless you're using a combo).
C/this one I can't back him cause I thought it is supported. Maybe it is broken, but I don't use it so I wouldn't know
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khanh1289 said:
sorry, i typically use a laptop for those things. It would make a lot more sense btw. You can also use your phone as a bluetooth mouse/keyboard if you have a laptop that connects to a tv.
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... perhaps more sense to you, not me.
i don't want to carry a laptop around when i already have a computer in my pocket.
and i'm not happy with touch input devices as they are too slow and lack the precision needed for heavy editing.
these are my (not i.m.o. unreasonable) requirements of the nexus 4.

khanh1289 said:
Wow, you are quite "the absurd man". If you're trying to find help in a forum, it's best if you be a bit nicer. We're both trying to give you better alternatives to what you're trying to accomplish. To answer your questions...
A/wireless display technology is built in with the n4 and jelly bean and it's not yet widely available to most tv's yet but achievable with adapters.
B/so you don't have to carry around a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. It helps you with 2 less things you carry (unless you're using a combo).
C/this one I can't back him cause I thought it is supported. Maybe it is broken, but I don't use it so I wouldn't know
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getting the display to the TV is no problem -- i already have a slimport adaptor! why would i want to max out my wifi for that? it's bananas!
and i've already said that i don't want to use touch input as it's too slow and inprecise for my purposes.
my portable (igo stowaway) keyboard and notebook BT mouse are tiny (and inexpensive).
sorry to seem abrasive but you are not getting what i'm trying to achieve here.

khanh1289 said:
why are you using a bluetooth mouse on a phone? tablet, understandable but phone?!
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i've heard other people making the tablet/ phone distinction before and i'm not sure it's a valid one. the nexus 4 surely IS a tablet, albeit with a smaller physical (not resolution) screen. what else distinguishes a tablet? i use my N4 in exactly the same way i used my asus transformer and playbook.

theabsurdman said:
i've heard other people making the tablet/ phone distinction before and i'm not sure it's a valid one. the nexus 4 surely IS a tablet, albeit with a smaller physical (not resolution) screen. what else distinguishes a tablet? i use my N4 in exactly the same way i used my asus transformer and playbook.
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In your first post you didn't clarify that you were going to hook it up to a tv, so I assume that you were planning to connect a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard to your n4 and try to work from it's bit-smaller-than 5" display, which is highly unproductive.
N4 is technically a phone, not a tablet, by definition and specifications. I shouldn't have to explain the differences between a phone and a tablet (I'm sure there's a thread with detailed explanations)... just because it's running the same os doesn't mean it has the same hardware classification.
I understand that you want your N4 to replace your computer and the technology is very close, but not quite there yet... For simple tasks, it's good, but for anything editing, a laptop computer is highly more productive than a phone. Imagine you're doing something and you constantly receive phone calls and text messages.
Anyways, I will test this later when I get home and see if it's really broken. I know my Bluetooth moga game controller works just fine so I don't know why your mouse wouldn't.
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khanh1289 said:
Anyways, I will test this later when I get home and see if it's really broken. I know my Bluetooth moga game controller works just fine so I don't know why your mouse wouldn't.
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i'd appreciate that, thanks.
my BT keyboard works fine, but no mouse that i've tried.

Bluetooth is pretty much borked in all versions of Jellybean for all devices. Some things work and some things don't its pretty hit or miss. Version 4.2.1 added some drivers for game controllers but not much else so that's probably why those work and things like mice don't. There is supposed to be another fix coming in the next version but all that's known to be in there for sure is a fix for A2DP streaming.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/11/27/changelog-whats-new-in-android-4-2-1-jop40d/
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...ease-will-fix-bluetooth-a2dp-audio-streaming/

kzoodroid said:
Bluetooth is pretty much borked in all versions of Jellybean for all devices. Some things work and some things don't its pretty hit or miss. Version 4.2.1 added some drivers for game controllers but not much else so that's probably why those work and things like mice don't. There is supposed to be another fix coming in the next version but all that's known to be in there for sure is a fix for A2DP streaming.
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however, the (jellybean) samsung google nexus has no problem running a BT mouse, as i saw today.
i'd like to raise awareness of this problem with the N4 and get some more response from users, which has so far been sparse, probably because (as other posters in this thread have indicated) few see the need for a mouse.
for instance, somebody reported on another thread that they had been able to make a microsoft 5000 notebook mouse work. can anybody corroborate that?
i'm reluctant to shell out for yet another mouse considering that i'm currently holding 2 non-functioning ones.

not sure how much good it's going to do but i've opened an issue (#43918 Nexus 4 -- bluetooth mouse not working.) with the android development project:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=43918&thanks=43918&ts=1359688071#makechanges
"bluetooth mouse not working on nexus 4 (jellybean 4.2.1)
i've tried 2 different models of bluetooth mouse. both are detected and pair, and are recognized in settings as input divices, but i get no on-screen cursor nor any mouse/ button input registed by the device. nothing.
the same mice work properly on a samsung google nexus."

i've had one response to my issue at google already.
could anybody else who is having this problem please add to that thread also?
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=43918&thanks=43918&ts=1359688071#makechanges
meanwhile i'm awaiting delivery of a microsoft notebook 5000 BT mouse which has been reported to work by another poster. i'll report back on that when it arrives

UPDATE:
at last i've found a mouse that works!
the microsoft bluetooth notebook 5000

Will Different USB keyboard hosts work with each other

Not sure if this is the right topic, but there doesn't seem to be any other place I could put this.
So my brother lost his keyboard USB connector (it's wireless). If I were to go out and buy another one USB connector for the exact same keyboard, would it work? Sounds stupid, I know, but it's worth a try.
Thanks
-Kevin

Straight out of the box, no. In my experience wireless keyboards are paired with their transceivers and have no obvious sync button to pair them to another, there may be a way to do it in software or something which brings me onto:
But where are you going to get another tranceiver from? That would require buying another keyboard in which case just use the new one. Or don't lose USB plugs in the first place, mine stayed plugged into the PC at all times or when in transport was gaffa taped to the keyboard.
Bluetooth keyboards of course don't have this issue. Next keyboard I buy I am intending to be Bluetooth hopefully.

nicetaco said:
Not sure if this is the right topic, but there doesn't seem to be any other place I could put this.
So my brother lost his keyboard USB connector (it's wireless). If I were to go out and buy another one USB connector for the exact same keyboard, would it work? Sounds stupid, I know, but it's worth a try.
Thanks
-Kevin
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I would say that yes, it should work, provided it was the exact same keyboard.

stevedebi said:
I would say that yes, it should work, provided it was the exact same keyboard.
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I have seen 3 of the same model USB wireless keyboard working in one room without interfering. They hadnt been played with either, they were straight out of the box so somehow a keyboard is paired with its included tranceiver.
Thats not to say it can't be paired to another but mine has no obvious way of doing so.

SixSixSevenSeven said:
I have seen 3 of the same model USB wireless keyboard working in one room without interfering. They hadnt been played with either, they were straight out of the box so somehow a keyboard is paired with its included tranceiver.
Thats not to say it can't be paired to another but mine has no obvious way of doing so.
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I suspect the BT dongles connect to a certain keyboard BT MAC address. The same thing is true of any BT device; they have to be paired.

No matter what you will always have the issue that you can't buy the adaptor on its own anyway.

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No matter what you will always have the issue that you can't buy the adaptor on its own anyway.
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That's why I like the hp dongles that can pair with up to five devices...
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That's why I like Bluetooth devices where I don't have to pay for a dongle, can't lose it (it's built into my laptops, tablet, phone, and for that matter car), and don't have to give up a USB port to use a wireless peripheral...

If it is a Logitech device you may be able to pair it to a unifying receiver.
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can't connect ps3 controller over blue toot

haha I like calling it blu toot!
anyone had success using six axis ps3 controller app with nook hd+?
I was looking forward to finally having jelly bean on this tablet since
ICS has a tendency to change blue tooth addresses every time it's rebooted.
I ran the free compatibility checker from the play store, it said the nook would work.
So I used the pc pairing tool to change my ps3 controller to the address of the nook.
It won't connect.
I even got a usb gender changer to connect it directly to the nook and pair it, it won't do it.
Anyone have success pairing ps3 controller with nook hd+?

pdx1138 said:
I even got a usb gender changer to connect it directly to the nook and pair it, it won't do it.
Anyone have success pairing ps3 controller with nook hd+?
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USB connection with the controller most definitely works, I tried it myself (you can also see it working in my original usbhost video).
I did not look into BT support as it sounds to be somewhat more involved than just pairing (usb connection very easy on the other hand, just plug the controller in and it jsut works (don't forget to turn it on by pressing the "start" button (triangle shaped)).

Where's the video?

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Where's the video?
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Referenced from the original usbhost support announcement

aha! but you used a usb hub in the middle! didn't know I needed that.
The thing is though, the ps3 controller SHOULD definitely be able to connect
over blue-tooth, but it isn't with CM 10.1 for some reason...
I can't be the only one that would rather connect it wirelessly.
It works on nearly every tablet ever made as long as root is enabled.
if you don't mind, maybe you could download the free six axis compatibility checker
so you can see what I mean.

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aha! but you used a usb hub in the middle! didn't know I needed that.
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You would know if you'd check your dmesg to see that the ps3 controller claims it needs too much power to operate (Which it does not).
Also it's addressed in all other usb threads that devices that claim they need more than 100mA need to be hidden behind USB hub (unpowered is usually fine too).
The thing is though, the ps3 controller SHOULD definitely be able to connect
over blue-tooth, but it isn't with CM 10.1 for some reason...
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With BT overhaul in Android 4.2 a lot of things broke on fundamental level, I know wiimotes are totally broken, it well might be that ps3 controllers are in the same boat and you'll need to wait until Google gets around to actually release unbroken implementation in 4.3
if you don't mind, maybe you could download the free six axis compatibility checker
so you can see what I mean.
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I guess I might try it one day. But my cursory reading indicates thre's some nonfree tool needed at one point in the process.
The six axis compat checker seems to only check that you have rooted device, and that's all it does.

That makes sense...didn't know it was broken implementation.
thanks very much for your words.

I can verify Sixaxis does work with CM 10.1 because I am running CM on my At&t Galaxy S2. I do not understand why with Verygreen's CM version it does not work. I mean since he is building from CM source.

very interesting...I wonder if it has to do with tablet aspects of cm 10.1
thanks for posting that Ederok.
I did get the controller working, by hooking it up to a non powered hub via usb cable, but would be so much better to use wireless blue tooth.

pdx1138 said:
very interesting...I wonder if it has to do with tablet aspects of cm 10.1
thanks for posting that Ederok.
I did get the controller working, by hooking it up to a non powered hub via usb cable, but would be so much better to use wireless blue tooth.
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Your welcome. I really hope the issue gets resolved in future releases. [crosses fingers]

ederok said:
Your welcome. I really hope the issue gets resolved in future releases. [crosses fingers]
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If it's not fixed soon I might be getting the new N7 when it releases and give my nook to someone else. A big reason that I bought this thing in the first place was so I could have a bigger screen for playing games wirelessly and knew that it was supported by CM but apparently not without its quirks