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Stood next to a dude who also thought of getting a Xoom...

...and after discussing about the advantages and disadvantages of the Xoom, we finally left the store with the same thought of waiting for the Samsung 10.1 tablet.
What's the point of this thread????....
Patience is virtue.

I guess you don't mind the lack of an SD card slot...
Oh, wait.

Nor external ports...
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Thanks for sharing

arrtoodeetoo said:
I guess you don't mind the lack of an SD card slot...
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There is a .999999% that it may have the SD card slot. I am willing to wait until March 22 to find out.

Earthbrain said:
There is a .999999% that it may have the SD card slot. I am willing to wait until March 22 to find out.
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Lol not even 1% chance?

Earthbrain said:
...and after discussing about the advantages and disadvantages of the Xoom, we finally left the store with the same thought of waiting for the Samsung 10.1 tablet.
What's the point of this thread????....
Patience is virtue.
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Assuming there is sufficient advantage to waiting.
Waiting by itself doesn't qualify having patience. Sometimes it means you don't understand the choice. The only real "disadvantage" in buying the Xoom now is the price. What about the Samsung tablet appeals to you more? Or was this purely about the Xoom?
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Lol not even 1% chance?
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Ha, was laughing at that too.

Am I missing something. What on earth makes the tablet by Samsung any better than one by motorola unless you are a homunculus incapable of holding a 1.6lb device but can hold a 1.3?
In all seriousness though, besides aestethics and brand preference I don't see the draw. I am seriously looking googling to try and find the big deal. Moto is a proven OEM in the Android world, and the XOOM is wide open and soon to be 4G capable. I see that the 10.1 is supposed to be HSPA 21+mbps so I am assuming T-Mo's fake 4G?
It seems it has a better rear camera, higher resolution video, optional capacities, and a proximity sensor(did they forget this isn't a phone) in the THINGS THE XOOM DON'T category.
It has a single instead of dual led flash, no new data tech, no HDMI, no barometer(hmmm someone tell me wtf a barometer is for) no external memory(which I will be using to put music on my tablet when I get a deal on a 32gb microsd, or so I tell myself), no ambient light sensor(I don't like autobrightness but I see the utility) in the THINGS THE XOOM DOES category.
Options are good but I don't get the point of this pointless thread .

Earthbrain said:
There is a .999999% that it may have the SD card slot. I am willing to wait until March 22 to find out.
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It won't have an SD slot or a normal micro USB port, have fun!

setite said:
Options are good but I don't get the point of this pointless thread .
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probably hard to locate find the Galaxy Tab forum??

theahlenius said:
Assuming there is sufficient advantage to waiting.
Waiting by itself doesn't qualify having patience. Sometimes it means you don't understand the choice. The only real "disadvantage" in buying the Xoom now is the price. What about the Samsung tablet appeals to you more? Or was this purely about the Xoom?
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I did not mention in my first post that I also bought the Xoom at Motorola for 25% off and I already have the UPS tracking number and it will be delivered this coming Monday. My bank statement has shown that the charge is complete.
So the price is not really the issue here.
I will not open my Xoom on Monday when I received it but will wait for March 22 to decide.
Biggest advantages of the Samsung tablet are the following:
1. Lighter weight
2. Most likely a better screen (brighter/better contrast). You look at the screen 100% of the time when you use a tablet (unless you just listen to music) so this is very important.
Big disadvantage
1. May not be rootable

Like I mentioned, you don't seem to understand the choice if those are your only disadvantages. I get that you're waiting, I just find your attitude funny.

Earthbrain said:
There is a .999999% that it may have the SD card slot. I am willing to wait until March 22 to find out.
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Your a better man than me. Me, personally I will never buy another samsung product. What shortcomings does the Xoom have that the 10.1 won't have? From what I have read the 10.1 is inferior spec wise to the Xoom althoigh they are very close.

setite said:
Am I missing something. What on earth makes the tablet by Samsung any better than one by motorola unless you are a homunculus incapable of holding a 1.6lb device but can hold a 1.3?
In all seriousness though, besides aestethics and brand preference I don't see the draw. I am seriously looking googling to try and find the big deal. Moto is a proven OEM in the Android world, and the XOOM is wide open and soon to be 4G capable. I see that the 10.1 is supposed to be HSPA 21+mbps so I am assuming T-Mo's fake 4G?
It seems it has a better rear camera, higher resolution video, optional capacities, and a proximity sensor(did they forget this isn't a phone) in the THINGS THE XOOM DON'T category.
It has a single instead of dual led flash, no new data tech, no HDMI, no barometer(hmmm someone tell me wtf a barometer is for) no external memory(which I will be using to put music on my tablet when I get a deal on a 32gb microsd, or so I tell myself), no ambient light sensor(I don't like autobrightness but I see the utility) in the THINGS THE XOOM DOES category.
Options are good but I don't get the point of this pointless thread .
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Thats exactly what I was thinking plus you left one out. Samsung will never update it they will just have another come out in four months and make you pay for that. I will never buy samsung ever. Horrible company that forces a ****ty skin on its users and takes away uogrades making promises and never coming through, they care for nothing more than your money and i will leave you.

Samsung updated their phones in Europe
I am also waiting that March 22, but mainly for the 8.9" version.
Hope it will have better screen and more.
angermeans said:
Thats exactly what I was thinking plus you left one out. Samsung will never update it they will just have another come out in four months and make you pay for that. I will never buy samsung ever. Horrible company that forces a ****ty skin on its users and takes away uogrades making promises and never coming through, they care for nothing more than your money and i will leave you.
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[email protected] thread... First there were Apple fanboys, then phandroids now people are arguing and defending different android tablets... Motoroloids? Phansungs? When will it end?!! Who cares? And let's be honest, since when did arguing on the internet ever change someones stance on an issue? Get over it.

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barometer(hmmm someone tell me wtf a barometer is for)
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If you load Weatherbug you will see the barometer actually being used. Not very interesting right now unless you are a weather addict like me.

keitht said:
If you load Weatherbug you will see the barometer actually being used. Not very interesting right now unless you are a weather addict like me.
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What part. I couldn't figure out where it is.
angermeans said:
Thats exactly what I was thinking plus you left one out. Samsung will never update it they will just have another come out in four months and make you pay for that. I will never buy samsung ever. Horrible company that forces a ****ty skin on its users and takes away uogrades making promises and never coming through, they care for nothing more than your money and i will leave you.
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Thanks for that. I went into that post thinking about that point but I got sidetracked. It is fair to point out that Samsung has let all the initial Galaxy Tab owners twist in the wind with no word of whether they will ever see an update.

setite said:
What part. I couldn't figure out where it is.
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When you load Weatherbug you will see "My Device Stats" which shows the Barometer reading from your Xoom.
Screen attached.

which is better

hello am going to buy a tablet but not sure which 1 to get need some coments
acer iconia a500 or asus transformer thanks

The iPad.
*Iconia DUH*

in what way

1) Iconia is available
2) USB port without buying an expensive keyboard
3) better build quality
4) lots of other bullet points which others can feel free to expand upon

Newegg has the 32gb Transformer in stock. $50 more than the A500, though. If you don't care about the optional $150 keyboard, I think the A500 is better because of the better build and full sized USB port.
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I'm not sure why another thread such as this is needed. However, since you asked, I'd say go with the Acer.....keeping in mind that this is an Iconia forum. The USB port is very handy. The Asus with the dock becomes a net book. So, I'm at a meeting and a coworker hands me a flash drive to upload some files to. With the Acer I just plug it in. With the Asus ill need to get out the dock (net book) and attach to upload the files. I purchased the Iconia to replace my laptop, giving my backpack a smaller, lighter profile. Just my .02
Duke
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it depends on your demand.
acer ,it has a standard usb port .
asus, has a better screen .
if you need type lots of words ,the keyboard is necessary.

Yay for the 100th thread asking this question!
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Agreed even though I screwed mine up when I first rooted & removed stuff I shouldn't of. I've been to busy to fix it & afraid I'll really mess things up. Bottom line, I love this beast. I'm one of those nuts that research things to the point of driving myself crazy. A500 is the best hands down.

.... and if you go to the Transformer section and ask exactly the same question, don't be too surprised to get exactly the opposite answer!
There are pluses and minuses to both tablets - you pays your money and you takes your choice!
Regards,
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Here's a post on reddit where tons of people are having problems with Asus hardware and customer support:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/hpvph/asus_transformer_owners_are_you_having_any_issues/
Haven't seen anything like this about Acer users, and there have been something like 1 million Iconia a500 tablets sold.

asus support sucks
There is a Asus repair facility less the 4 miles from where I live.I had a web can issue with a Dee PC netbook. They told me online I could drop it off to be repaired. When I got over there I was standing in there office area looking thru the glass and could see repair areas. They would not accept my email told me I had to mail it to to them by Ups.I paid 14.00 to ship a product 4 miles from my home.then took them 5 weeks tobget it back to me.
Never would I ever buy another Asus product.I called and complained and was told that they would talk to the people at the repair facility.
Lame lame lame

The fact that the OP go to an Acer specific forum and posted the question takes some nerve...
@OP
if someone were to visit YOUR house and posed the question of... which is better ? your house or the one down the street ?... what do you think YOUR reaction might be ?

UnicornKaz said:
The fact that the OP go to an Acer specific forum and posted the question takes some nerve...
@OP
if someone were to visit YOUR house and posed the question of... which is better ? your house or the one down the street ?... what do you think YOUR reaction might be ?
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I would definitely say the one down the street... my house is crappy because I am lazy. Lol

lord_voldemort666 said:
I would definitely say the one down the street... my house is crappy because I am lazy. Lol
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I didn't say "answer"... I said "reaction" ...LOL

Iconia A500...
coz I tested others... didn't feel anything better in my hand than Iconia...
even my love Samsung GT 10.1.... I felt like OMG it's damn light...going to broke easyliy and what that sluuuuuugggisssshhh honeycomb on it.... really so disapointed.... so sad as well coz the price was quite good just 3000THB for the 16GB model with 3G against my 32Gb Iconia... with USB and tethering my Liquid Metal for 3G... hu

I think it comes down to preference. Screen on the Transformer is what sold me. Also the fact that it's thinner and lighter. Unfortunately, I am aware of the QC issues with it and I'm hoping I get a good one. It's available on Amazon for $399 with no tax and free shipping. There was a -$40 off offer if approved for their Amazon Visa credit card, too. Applied in less than 2 minutes and now I paid $359.00 for it.
If it turns out to have a lot of bad issues, I'll consider the a500. The weight and bulk of it kind of turn me off, however.
If there's one thing I will feel like I'm missing out on, though, it would be that oh-so-handy USB port.

Can the webmaster please delete the search-function of this forum.
It seems there is no more use for it. I must have seen at least 3 topics about iconia vs transformer already...come on people, read the Damn forum rules!
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ibila said:
Can the webmaster please delete the search-function of this forum.
It seems there is no more use for it. I must have seen at least 3 topics about iconia vs transformer already...come on people, read the Damn forum rules!
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Relax. Take a breath. Play nice. Thank you.

Should I trade my transformer for a xoom?

I know someone who wants to do this trade. I know the xoom costs more but should I do it? Waddya think?
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Trade it. Sell the xoom for $500 then buy a tf again and pocket the $100

^ Damn he's good. Do it my son.

Yes, do the trade for resale thing, but don't do it based on the tablets alone. I had a Xoom before my TF, and I can't think of a single advantage of the Xoom. The TF blows it away in just about every category.
Oh, wait: the Xoom is a little narrower. There, that's all I can think of.

wynand32 said:
I had a Xoom before my TF, and I can't think of a single advantage of the Xoom.
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Well, the Xoom has a barometer, and ... uh ... um ... that's it, I'm stumped.

dfin13 said:
Well, the Xoom has a barometer, and ... uh ... um ... that's it, I'm stumped.
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A barometer ? Oo
jateelover , yes definitely trade it, if you are sure that the device is fully functional, was never dropped, etc.

Yeah it predicts stormy weather. Great for predicting your tears when the person next to you has a tablet with a functional MicroSD slot for $400.00 when your XOOM costs $600.00.

Seriously though the thing letting the TF down is the lousy QC and rushed software/firmware (possibly hardware but nothing concrete on that front). Hopefully most of the issues will be fixed but it's totally unnaceptable to be guinea pigs whilst Asus tries to get it's house in order. I'd rather them have waited a couple of months and get it right to be honest.

I showed my friend my tf and he said he had just gotten a xoom, then I told him the specs, the features and the price and his response was "damn I guess I should have waited a little while".

Ya I might trade and use the zoom until Asus starts getting their act together with qc. The one I have now is good except for light bleed though...thanks for the input...
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deadman3000 said:
Seriously though the thing letting the TF down is the lousy QC and rushed software/firmware (possibly hardware but nothing concrete on that front). Hopefully most of the issues will be fixed but it's totally unnaceptable to be guinea pigs whilst Asus tries to get it's house in order. I'd rather them have waited a couple of months and get it right to be honest.
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In the ****ed up world we live in, Microsoft get aplauded for rushing out the badly broken Xbox, Sony got hauled over the coals for making a proper console that worked.
Now it seems the opposite should apply, and people want companies to wait again...
Hmmm..... OK then......

I don't know about this trade...yeah sure you might be able to sell it, buy a new TF and pocket some cash but is that worth the hassle?
Call me crazy but i just don't like the Xoom as much as the TF. It's not just the fact that the TF is more functional but I actually think it looks cooler as well.
I vote keep your TF - get your friend to sell his one to someone else and buy his own. Then you can be TF buddies.

Just ordered a transformer but .........

Im kinda of thinking it is a miatake now because some ppl on here bash it so much! Now coming from ipad to xoom to this is it as bad as ppl on xda make out?
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Love mine! It actually is BETTER than I thought it would be!

you have a return window...
try it out and be your own judge.
what you gonna do? wait for the package and not open it?

Tip of the day... Think for yourself.
The majority of people bashing the TF bash their cell phones, their tvs, their computers and just about every other expensive piece of hardware they invest in because it doesn't wipe their ass and make their morning coffee.

I love mine more than anything else i own, other than my Camaro of course lol. I just found an app called sixaxis controller that lets me use a ps3 controller to play games and even navigate the launcher via bluetooth!

I just got mine and am happy with it.

I "bash" mine because it does have problems, but other than those I love the device. The only real problem that mattered to me was when it decided it didn't want to charge anymore.

All devices have problems. My ipad2 had screen bleed and restricted. The transformer has some screen bleed but is awesome. Be sure to pick up a tablet keyboard like thumb keyboard or swiftkeyX. Really man typing a breeze while holding the tablet.
Asus Transformer 3.2 pwnd
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It's a great device and very capable. If you don't get the QC issues the device is great and I think you'll enjoy it.
For most of the QC issues you'll know right from the beginning. For some like dying speakers nobody can really tell when that will occur. You probably shouldn't consider creaking a defect either, keep that in mind.
The majority of the people here that bash the device probably do so due the QC, not the actual device itself. It's very capable and well designed, it's just the execution was somewhat poor and the QC suffered as a result.
So you should just try it out like another poster said. You might find it so good that you don't want to return it.

Yeh i think that is probaly best, has.there been many qc issues?
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starplaya93 said:
Tip of the day... Think for yourself.
The majority of people bashing the TF bash their cell phones, their tvs, their computers and just about every other expensive piece of hardware they invest in because it doesn't wipe their ass and make their morning coffee.
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Wow!!! You just nailed!!!!

The new generation are people like a crying whining baby with no patience. They just want everything to work instantly, perfectly and bugs fixed immediately.
Is the transformer perfect? Nope, but I can live with it and enjoy what I have instead of complaining about it everyday.
lightbleed? is there, not affecting my use whatsoever.
batter drain? fixed already. I don't have battery issue anymore. Lost about 2% overnight.
keyboard browser lag? Annoying, but I am patiently waiting for a fix. it's useable, but ya, people can't wait a second these days. They will be so angry and wanna throw the tablet against the wall or keep posting Epic fail in every asus update thread.
netflix? don't care at all. i can root it if I really want it.
flash video lag? fixed already.
Lack of apps? I beleive it will get better. There werent many apps when i had my iphone1.
Circle mouse? I actually like it more than the arrow cursor. People made it such a big deal.
Did I miss anything that people were bashing? Seriously, just try to enjoy it and have a little patience.
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For those who considering XOOM better build? Think again....
Google Lots of XOOM got creaks/cracks of the back, loose in buttons and back plastic side, loose of corners, bad view angles etc....
We see all bad things about Transformers since we are looking for it...But XOOM got all same **** guys...

Loving my transformer. An awesome platform for tinkering too. I have mine dual booting ubuntu/android via lilstevie's work.

It seems to human nature to dwell on the bad things!
I have had my Transformer & dock for about a week now and don't know what all the fuss has been about it is the best thing i have bought for a while. Just the whole thing with the tab & dock when you want it or to top up battery is a win win!

If you have a Costco membership, you can buy it online, use it for up to 90 days and return it to a local store (if you have issues)
I don't condone returning something if its not broke or just cause something better came out!
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hiya1987 said:
Im kinda of thinking it is a miatake now because some ppl on here bash it so much! Now coming from ipad to xoom to this is it as bad as ppl on xda make out?
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I bought me an Acer Iconia A500, but could never shake the want for the keyboard dock.
I bought my TF last week, and haven't look back.
Solid device.

myamex said:
Did I miss anything that people were bashing? Seriously, just try to enjoy it and have a little patience.
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As for me, I got touch screen problems (thing doesn't sense your fingers at some parts of the screen) and had to send to Asus for RMA. I was told it'll come back in 6-8 weeks... so I'm not too happy at the moment.

blastdabomb said:
As for me, I got touch screen problems (thing doesn't sense your fingers at some parts of the screen) and had to send to Asus for RMA. I was told it'll come back in 6-8 weeks... so I'm not too happy at the moment.
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Wow, two months! That is ridiculous! Shouldn't they send you a replacement and then you send the defective unit back.
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Wow, two months! That is ridiculous! Shouldn't they send you a replacement and then you send the defective unit back.
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Well, it's the RMA and they don't send the replacement. I hope for the turnaround to be less than 2 months but for now I'll have to see if I really need a tablet, and if so, look at some stores' return policies.

Many problems

Hi, I recently purchased this tablet .. but I found many flaws: yellow halo in the lower left, dust under the screen, 1 dead pixel, serial number invalid, crunch the left side .. you think I have to bring back? Many thanks to those who answer me

Sounds like you got a returned device return it.

Regarding the serial number, try registering it as a O and not a 0 (e.g. B7O, not B70.)

You got a defective product. Exchange immediately.

goodintentions said:
You got a defective product. Exchange immediately.
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Thanks to all..the serial now with O, is correct..but there are the other problems..I'm going to replace him then?

DarkMenTH said:
Thanks to all..the serial now with O, is correct..but there are the other problems..I'm going to replace him then?
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Hahaha, so your tablet is a he? You should try to look for a female version. The female TF's are just more pleasant to deal with. Less testosterone.
But yes, try to get a replacement now.

goodintentions said:
Hahaha, so your tablet is a he? You should try to look for a female version. The female TF's are just more pleasant to deal with. Less testosterone.
But yes, try to get a replacement now.
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Mine is a she, when I look at the bottom, there is a slot instead of a post =0 however, about one week a month the tab won't turn on... Women sheesh LOL.
Seriously though, return it asap, make sure you tell the retailer what is wrong so they don't put it back in to stock.
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