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Should I trade my transformer for a xoom?

I know someone who wants to do this trade. I know the xoom costs more but should I do it? Waddya think?
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Trade it. Sell the xoom for $500 then buy a tf again and pocket the $100

^ Damn he's good. Do it my son.

Yes, do the trade for resale thing, but don't do it based on the tablets alone. I had a Xoom before my TF, and I can't think of a single advantage of the Xoom. The TF blows it away in just about every category.
Oh, wait: the Xoom is a little narrower. There, that's all I can think of.

wynand32 said:
I had a Xoom before my TF, and I can't think of a single advantage of the Xoom.
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Well, the Xoom has a barometer, and ... uh ... um ... that's it, I'm stumped.

dfin13 said:
Well, the Xoom has a barometer, and ... uh ... um ... that's it, I'm stumped.
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A barometer ? Oo
jateelover , yes definitely trade it, if you are sure that the device is fully functional, was never dropped, etc.

Yeah it predicts stormy weather. Great for predicting your tears when the person next to you has a tablet with a functional MicroSD slot for $400.00 when your XOOM costs $600.00.

Seriously though the thing letting the TF down is the lousy QC and rushed software/firmware (possibly hardware but nothing concrete on that front). Hopefully most of the issues will be fixed but it's totally unnaceptable to be guinea pigs whilst Asus tries to get it's house in order. I'd rather them have waited a couple of months and get it right to be honest.

I showed my friend my tf and he said he had just gotten a xoom, then I told him the specs, the features and the price and his response was "damn I guess I should have waited a little while".

Ya I might trade and use the zoom until Asus starts getting their act together with qc. The one I have now is good except for light bleed though...thanks for the input...
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deadman3000 said:
Seriously though the thing letting the TF down is the lousy QC and rushed software/firmware (possibly hardware but nothing concrete on that front). Hopefully most of the issues will be fixed but it's totally unnaceptable to be guinea pigs whilst Asus tries to get it's house in order. I'd rather them have waited a couple of months and get it right to be honest.
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In the ****ed up world we live in, Microsoft get aplauded for rushing out the badly broken Xbox, Sony got hauled over the coals for making a proper console that worked.
Now it seems the opposite should apply, and people want companies to wait again...
Hmmm..... OK then......

I don't know about this trade...yeah sure you might be able to sell it, buy a new TF and pocket some cash but is that worth the hassle?
Call me crazy but i just don't like the Xoom as much as the TF. It's not just the fact that the TF is more functional but I actually think it looks cooler as well.
I vote keep your TF - get your friend to sell his one to someone else and buy his own. Then you can be TF buddies.

A week without the TF

So I took up on Asus's offer to replace my TF and dock to figure out the battery draining issue. Its been a week without the device and surprisingly I am not facing any withdrawal symptoms as I feared. I have been doing all the stuff I did, now on my Thunderbolt. Only thing I am missing is the ebooks, but not a big deal since I read them off and on anyway

okay? we all know that you can do the same thing on your tablet... on your phone and vice versa. it's just a matter of a bigger screen

well if i would have to read my ebooks/magazines on my htc desire i would just buy them in real. screen size is way to small to read any longer stuff.

tornadog said:
So I took up on Asus's offer to replace my TF and dock to figure out the battery draining issue. Its been a week without the device and surprisingly I am not facing any withdrawal symptoms as I feared. I have been doing all the stuff I did, now on my Thunderbolt. Only thing I am missing is the ebooks, but not a big deal since I read them off and on anyway
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Just by posting this you secretly admit that you are missing the tab Why else would you roam the TF forums now haha! Not that there's anything wrong with that! Just never mention it to your partner... If I told my wifey that I didn't really need the tab she'd make me sell it LOL!

funnycreature said:
Just by posting this you secretly admit that you are missing the tab Why else would you roam the TF forums now haha! Not that there's anything wrong with that! Just never mention it to your partner... If I told my wifey that I didn't really need the tab she'd make me sell it LOL!
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You may be right

tornadog said:
So I took up on Asus's offer to replace my TF and dock to figure out the battery draining issue. Its been a week without the device and surprisingly I am not facing any withdrawal symptoms as I feared.
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Welcome to adulthood! Once you realize that they are just things then you will realize a lot more important things as well.

Digiguest said:
Welcome to adulthood! Once you realize that they are just things then you will realize a lot more important things as well.
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+1 on that! Since we had a baby my priorities shifted although my interest remained the same

And I have to say: by making this statement, Mr. OP, you put us all at risk. Do not EVER say that our toys... er, tools... can be lived without. These are vital to our very existence, and should NEVER be questioned this way.
I say you should be stoned.
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I just shipped mine off to RMA due to a bent bezel and the power/volume buttons not working properly. I posted here about it before.
The mail lady said it should get to Texas by Saturday. What is the usual turnaround time for the RMA group?

B70, tested 3, still creaks and dust under glass

Exchanged 3 today, got B70's, all had the same issues like dust and creaks.

i thought you went through 5 of them, from other tread you made, about the exact same subject, 10 minutes ago.
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finalhit said:
i thought you went through 5 of them, from other tread you made, about the exact same subject, 10 minutes ago.
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Yup 5.
The other 2 were B06, what was the question?

Get an Ipad.

B60 here. No light bleed or creaking.

reuuin88 said:
Get an Ipad.
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+1
and please leave here

Yes thirded!!!!
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msticninja said:
B60 here. No light bleed or creaking.
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+1
B50 Bought in may from US,exelent exsampler

I have a B70. No light bleed, creaks or dust under the screen.

Got mine yesterday and have no issues with it. No dust, no cracking, not seen screen bleeding. B70 seems to be fine.
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magicpork said:
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and please leave here
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Who the hell are you? He is here reporting information that is useful to others and you tell him the leave?
Many people, including myself happen to be a bit more of a perfectionist than you. I like my things that are brand new, to look brand new. I know, call me crazy. Just because you are happy with your imperfections, doesn't mean other people are.
When I spend several hundred dollars on something, there shouldn't be anything wrong with it leaving the factory. Period. If you are OK with it, great, but not everyone is.
I see posts like these on XDA all the time lately and it is just ridiculous. Why can't this place just be about helping people and making our devices the best they can be?
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I just got my B70 unit now. No issues till now (A little light bleed only).
My B50 had bad light bleed, bad on/off, volume buttons and creaks. Let's hope most of us get lucky with the B70 revision
Now i gotta check if i have an Elite Tegra. Lol...
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dills2214 said:
Who the hell are you? He is here reporting information that is useful to others and you tell him the leave?
Many people, including myself happen to be a bit more of a perfectionist than you. I like my things that are brand new, to look brand new. I know, call me crazy. Just because you are happy with your imperfections, doesn't mean other people are.
When I spend several hundred dollars on something, there shouldn't be anything wrong with it leaving the factory. Period. If you are OK with it, great, but not everyone is.
I see posts like these on XDA all the time lately and it is just ridiculous. Why can't this place just be about helping people and making our devices the best they can be?
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Because whining about imperfections that generally no one gets or cares about is annoying, especially when he already made a thread on the subject and decided to make a new thread just to QQ anyways.
For you perfectionists pricks: it's plastic, it's gonna creak, deal with it.
Dust and **** is fun stuff and all but we already know about all these issues since they have been posted about into oblivion already. If your smarmy self-righteous self wants to walk in here and say the exact same thing as every god damn other person before you, stating the obvious over and over again, then maybe it is you that has bigger issues than dust under the screen that you should be worrying about.

dills2214 said:
Who the hell are you? He is here reporting information that is useful to others and you tell him the leave?
Many people, including myself happen to be a bit more of a perfectionist than you. I like my things that are brand new, to look brand new. I know, call me crazy. Just because you are happy with your imperfections, doesn't mean other people are.
When I spend several hundred dollars on something, there shouldn't be anything wrong with it leaving the factory. Period. If you are OK with it, great, but not everyone is.
I see posts like these on XDA all the time lately and it is just ridiculous. Why can't this place just be about helping people and making our devices the best they can be?
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Look, we all want things to be perfect. But let's be realistic here. This is not the most expensive tablet on the market. There's going to be some flaws here. Some people can't see them but I bet there's an issue with every single one, even if the screen is off by a millimeter.
Instead of exchanging the tablets 4-5 different times, the smarter thing to do would be to get something else, maybe a G-tab or gasp, an iPad 2 (with fewer quality control issues). All you're doing is putting yourself through frustration, and really, no one can help you with that one besides yourself.

I cant believe there is ANOTHER one of these threads open. If you think the transformer sucks so bad go buy an ipad I love my transformer

B50
I've a B50 16GB model only and a little bit of light-bleed and a little bit of cracking...I decided it is not enough to have them exchanged.
A tablet that is for 95% good is quite good

dills2214 said:
When I spend several hundred dollars on something, there shouldn't be anything wrong with it leaving the factory. Period. If you are OK with it, great, but not everyone is.
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Sure. You don't have to accept anything you don't like. The problem is you keep going back to the same product and assuming it will magically get better is unrealistic. One or two exchanges? Sure. But FIFTH? and made a thread about whining about it? Please turn on your TV and watch some news to see some real problems out there.

I've had my B1 for a couple of months, with absolutely no problems, but I'm puzzled about what the "B50" and "B70" references in this thread mean, related to the TF. I can't recall ever seeing them before.
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vicw said:
I've had my B1 for a couple of months, with absolutely no problems, but I'm puzzled about what the "B50" and "B70" references in this thread mean, related to the TF. I can't recall ever seeing them before.
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They're referring to the first three digits of the serial number, not the model number

I hope op can find a gf. Some people are just ridiculous.
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I HATE my Transformer now!!!!

Every morning I wake up and the battery is dead or almost dead on the dock and tab; random reboot lock every day or twice a day; it needs to be charged EVERY night even though dock and tab are both at 100%; its realy sad cuz I thoguht this thing was the awesomest ever now I have no faith in it and I hate it. It seriously makes me want to jump ship if this what our "awesome updates" are going to be like. A month of misery and non working $700 devices is BULL****.

The device isnt even a year old, have you contacted asus for warranty support?

Rma It I had issues with mine called Tech support got an rma and 10 days later i had it in hand repaired and working like a new one.....Asus Support was great for me.
good luck

I'll give you 250 for it
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There's obviously a reason your tfs playing up...... have you contacted Asus?
Any device can have a problem regardless
of cost, its just unfortunate its yours.
what u thinking of changing to? a Samsung with oil slicks, iPad with weak bezel?........problems that have been rectified, so why can't your tfs?
the grass isn't always greener but you do have consumer rights - use them.

revjwb32 said:
Rma It I had issues with mine called Tech support got an rma and 10 days later i had it in hand repaired and working like a new one.....Asus Support was great for me.
good luck
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My rma unit came back in worse shape than before I sent it in. And it cost me $20 to ship the first time.
I guess it's just the luck of the draw.
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wackadroid said:
Every morning I wake up and the battery is dead or almost dead on the dock and tab; random reboot lock every day or twice a day; it needs to be charged EVERY night even though dock and tab are both at 100%; its realy sad cuz I thoguht this thing was the awesomest ever now I have no faith in it and I hate it. It seriously makes me want to jump ship if this what our "awesome updates" are going to be like. A month of misery and non working $700 devices is BULL****.
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Have you even bothered to take a look at the battery meter to see which apps or functions are eating your battery? That's what its there for afterall. It could be as simple as a rogue app running in the background sucking up resources.

What does your serial number on your dock start with? Do you have the "mobile dock" conserving feature enabled in the settings and does it actually work?
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hahahahaha 700$? did your tablet come with magic potions? I paid 500 for tablet AND dock combo....in august last year

wackadroid said:
Every morning I wake up and the battery is dead or almost dead on the dock and tab; random reboot lock every day or twice a day; it needs to be charged EVERY night even though dock and tab are both at 100%; its realy sad cuz I thoguht this thing was the awesomest ever now I have no faith in it and I hate it. It seriously makes me want to jump ship if this what our "awesome updates" are going to be like. A month of misery and non working $700 devices is BULL****.
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Two things, turning the power off will stop the battery drain. Otherwise, make sure all non-essential apps are stopped because they all consume battery power to run. It's like leaving your car overnight with lights and radio on.

I keep my tab and dock separate as much as possible. The battery drain is extreme when they are connected.

wackadroid said:
Every morning I wake up and the battery is dead or almost dead on the dock and tab; random reboot lock every day or twice a day; it needs to be charged EVERY night even though dock and tab are both at 100%; its realy sad cuz I thoguht this thing was the awesomest ever now I have no faith in it and I hate it. It seriously makes me want to jump ship if this what our "awesome updates" are going to be like. A month of misery and non working $700 devices is BULL****.
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Did you install the ICS update? Cause that's a known issue, see the Random Reboot Investigation thread. If you can, try to go back to HC.
BTW was the ICS update a forced update (I'm not on stock)? If it was then I can understand the frustration of the original poster. It's one of the reasons I didn't install ICS yet (I'm still on Krakd which I'm pretty happy with).

mediumsteak said:
hahahahaha 700$? did your tablet come with magic potions? I paid 500 for tablet AND dock combo....in august last year
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Certain part of the world have to pay a little more to play.

Sorry to hear about ur problems with the Transformer. I love mine so far. I've had it since Christmas, rooted it, installed Revolver then Krakd. Worked like a charm with excellent battery life. Then ICS came out, so I flashed that. It's better than ever now.
No lie... I took mine off the charger (No Dock) on Monday... It's almost the end of my work day and I still had 60% battery. I only plugged it back in because I wanted to get back to full battery in order to work on it this evening.
So... flashing ICS.. Battery life is great...

This was all actually due to the ICS update. This was the update that was sent from Asus, it was not a forced update. I did a factory reset on it as well once the ICS update was on it. I know that Asus is sending out a fix for the issue but its just SO annoying!! Plus, I dont feel like spending the time to revert to HC then update again. Oh well...

wackadroid said:
This was all actually due to the ICS update. This was the update that was sent from Asus, it was not a forced update. I did a factory reset on it as well once the ICS update was on it. I know that Asus is sending out a fix for the issue but its just SO annoying!! Plus, I dont feel like spending the time to revert to HC then update again. Oh well...
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Spending time? It takes minutes to revert to a nandriod and load the correct Kernel.......Unless you don't have those. Opps.

wackadroid said:
This was all actually due to the ICS update. This was the update that was sent from Asus, it was not a forced update. I did a factory reset on it as well once the ICS update was on it. I know that Asus is sending out a fix for the issue but its just SO annoying!! Plus, I dont feel like spending the time to revert to HC then update again. Oh well...
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Although i share your frustration, but u are not the only one experiencing these issues. The tablet is just fine, it is the buggy ICS update that asus is currently woking to fix it. Your OP was borderline trolling I agree with the above post, u can always restore a nandroid backup of a HC rom and kernel unless u didn't CYA. So take a chill pill and wait like the rest of us for the bug fix update.

Although I can understand the OP's frustration, seems pretty dumb to just hate a product so easily. Obviously there's something wrong with with the dock or the tablet. Or you could have a rogue app that is sucking down battery.
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Might be some of the apps that you installed that is draining the battery. Try to remove them one by one and see if you have the drain. If its still there buy an iPad.
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I think that for you will be better:
1 - Call assistance warranty or not
2 - sell your TF and buy another product (apple?)
3 - go on vacation instead to poison your soul writing here flamming threads because here there is not solution to your problem, they seams to be hardware related.
Stay calm...
Good luck

Google taking a beating over Nexus 7 problems...

On Google groups people are upset, and rightfully so.
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!category-topic/nexus/nexus-7/Tetp20r-REo
The Nexus 7 touchscreen problem has been ignored by google, Asus, the tech press......
Google has had a free pass long enough.
I'm glad I was able to return mine.
I hope you guys are paying attention to how they are handling this defect.....IGNORE IT.
I would advise to never buy from a company who ignores or runs from problems.

Mine works fine and most of the complaints are exaggerated as usual
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z0phi3l said:
Mine works fine and most of the complaints are exaggerated as usual
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Sure they are......:good:

z0phi3l said:
Mine works fine and most of the complaints are exaggerated as usual
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Mine does have this annoying touch problems, and it's really annoying. Yours fine? Good, please don't disrespect others complaint if yours "fine".
This is the kind of thing I don't understand, someone does a thread of the issue/news on it and suddenly comes people with their "fine" product and post how "fine" theirs are or/and that they don't care.
If your Nexus is "fine", then no need to read about it, enjoy it, but there are a lot of us who got a bad unit, I can't return it because it started after the 15 days of return warranty, so I'm stuck with it.

z0phi3l said:
Mine works fine and most of the complaints are exaggerated as usual
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I don't have breast cancer so most of the complaints are exaggerated as usual.
See the flaw in your logic?

NekroWolfen said:
Mine does have this annoying touch problems, and it's really annoying. Yours fine? Good, please don't disrespect others complaint if yours "fine".
This is the kind of thing I don't understand, someone does a thread of the issue/news on it and suddenly comes people with their "fine" product and post how "fine" theirs are or/and that they don't care.
If your Nexus is "fine", then no need to read about it, enjoy it, but there are a lot of us who got a bad unit, I can't return it because it started after the 15 days of return warranty, so I'm stuck with it.
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Yup, and the 15 day return period is a joke as well.
All defects should be covered by a free replacement warranty equal to the product warranty.....NOT REPAIR...and the customer should not pay a dime for shipping.
At least one year......after the way Google has handled this they should extend the free replacement warranty to 3 years. (Yeah right)

I'm not buying an Asus device again that's for sure, at least not until the product is well tested...

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I'm not buying an Asus device again that's for sure, at least not until the product is well tested...
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Same here.....Google could have kept me by taking care of the problem.
I'm done with them too. They gave me the run around so bad I'm still dizzy.....

NekroWolfen said:
Mine does have this annoying touch problems, and it's really annoying. Yours fine? Good, please don't disrespect others complaint if yours "fine".
This is the kind of thing I don't understand, someone does a thread of the issue/news on it and suddenly comes people with their "fine" product and post how "fine" theirs are or/and that they don't care.
If your Nexus is "fine", then no need to read about it, enjoy it, but there are a lot of us who got a bad unit, I can't return it because it started after the 15 days of return warranty, so I'm stuck with it.
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Please don't disrespect us who have perfectly working products by only calling out those who have issues.
Mine works fine.

I'm not sure if 7 people in that thread is really Google taking a beating. Also, it really isn't Google's problem. It is Asus'. How many tablets were sold vs how many have the issue. I got mine on launch day and no issue. I've had to send a few different items back to Asus in the past and had to pay shipping every time, but then again, $7 for shipping vs having to buy a new item is ok in my eyes. What a gimme gimme gimme world we live in.

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Please don't disrespect us who have perfectly working products by only calling out those who have issues.
Mine works fine.
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Next time, read well before quoting something directed to another user. I was specifically quoting him for saying that most of the complaints were exagerated, were a touch problem on a touch screen device is definitely not exagerated, besides how could you know if your device is working "fine". My quote wasn't directed at you, not interested in continuing this.

johnomaz said:
I'm not sure if 7 people in that thread is really Google taking a beating. Also, it really isn't Google's problem. It is Asus'. How many tablets were sold vs how many have the issue. I got mine on launch day and no issue. I've had to send a few different items back to Asus in the past and had to pay shipping every time, but then again, $7 for shipping vs having to buy a new item is ok in my eyes. What a gimme gimme gimme world we live in.
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ROFL!!
"A gimme gimme world!!" - You are a corporations dream come true!!!
I paid for a defective product and in my business, I take care of my customers who receive defects.
You are SO wrong.
Such a "gimme gimme world" that I just spent money on a new tablet that actually WORKS!!! Nobody gave it to me!! IMAGINE THAT. I spent my hard earned dollars and received a functioning product - WOW!! What a novel concept.
No need to be a prick.....and you were one.

I currently have a mild problem with the touch, it's not as bad as some but its still annoying. Has anyone who has rooted and installed a custom rom experience the touch problem go away?

JJbdoggg said:
I don't have breast cancer so most of the complaints are exaggerated as usual.
See the flaw in your logic?
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You use the word "so" where he uses "and". Two very different words and uses. I'm sorry if someone close has developed some form of cancer but don't bring it to an Android forum...:good:
Edit: Google isn't taking near the beating as you nay sayers lol

Mine's been working fine with no issues *knocks on wood*. I got it at launch. I don't expect any device to launch without issues but maybe it's just me. I'm not seeing this as a common widespread issue.

Mandelbrot.Benoit said:
You use the word "so" where he uses "and". Two very different words and uses. I'm sorry if someone close has developed some form of cancer but don't bring it to an Android forum...:good:
Edit: Google isn't taking near the beating as you nay sayers lol
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Okay replace and with so, my point still stands.
I also don't see how my analogy would be offensive to someone who knows someone with breast cancer so don't turn it into that, you also don't make the rules so I'll bring it up if I want to.

ilikeguitars said:
I currently have a mild problem with the touch, it's not as bad as some but its still annoying. Has anyone who has rooted and installed a custom rom experience the touch problem go away?
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Yup.
My touchscreen was mildly effected also. Mostly the missing touch problem when not holding the device (ie: sitting on a table or such).
Rooted using the forum tutorials, installed sfhub's ts10 update and the touchscreen works fine now. No skips, no missing or ghost touches.
For the record, I've only been using android for about 2 weeks now so it's not that hard to learn how to apply the fix that worked on mine.
Now, should an end user have to do you this to their device? Nope, it should come this way. For mine it was such an easy fix, it would seem they have no excuse for not designing the software properly in the first place.
I quite like the rest of the devices features (ie: nice screen, battery life, speed, just right size for book reading and fitting in my coat pocket, etc) and it's quickly becoming a favorite device of mine.
As to those saying thiers works fine, I think they are valid comments. Not all the devices are effected and as is normal with human behavior, those that feel "screwed" are often the ones who are the loudest. Not that they're not justified in being upset with getting a "broken" product, they are.
But it is equally valuable to hear from those that get products that work.
How else are we going to know if there are more bad than good if we don't also hear from "the good"?

JJbdoggg said:
Okay replace and with so, my point still stands.
I also don't see how my analogy would be offensive to someone who knows someone with breast cancer so don't turn it into that, you also don't make the rules so I'll bring it up if I want to.
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You're absolutely right: I don't make the rules and you can bring it up if you want to. I was simply suggesting that life and death disease analogies can always offend Someone and might be a little overboard on an Android forum.
You would need to replace so with and. He was making two separate points and connecting with the word and, while you are expressing cause-effect with so (should be used in conclusion). Though due to ambiguity I could be completely wrong. You brought up logic. I just thought it would be easier for two rational human beings to get to the same spot.
And my G2 screen is wonkier than my Nexus 7. Turning it off and back on seems to solve it though.

Guys, let's not argue about whether what's important to one is also important to you. Everyone has their own opinion. It looks like enough people are upset about the issues, and that is a fact.
I am one of those people. After devs here on XDA put together near perfect AOSP roms for my ThunderBolt, I expected stuff coming out of Google directly to be rock solid. N7 is my first Nexus device, and I am quite disappointed with regular random reboots that I still have, as well as intermittent touch screen issues. For example, I can't play Subway Surfers since N7 keeps ignoring some portion of screen touches (leading me to crash lol).
My HTC DNA, however, is rock solid on the stock rom. Why can't a Nexus device be the same? People typically complain of manufacturers adding stuff to android that makes it worse. Well, I am not so ready to say that now. As far as I am concerned, HTC is doing a better job with their devices than Google.
PS, TB was buggy when it came out, but all the bugs were subsequently fixed, even on Verizon!
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cowisland said:
Guys, let's not argue about whether what's important to one is also important to you. Everyone has their own opinion. It looks like enough people are upset about the issues, and that is a fact.
I am one of those people. After devs here on XDA put together near perfect AOSP roms for my ThunderBolt, I expected stuff coming out of Google directly to be rock solid. N7 is my first Nexus device, and I am quite disappointed with regular random reboots that I still have, as well as intermittent touch screen issues. For example, I can't play Subway Surfers since N7 keeps ignoring some portion of screen touches (leading me to crash lol).
My HTC DNA, however, is rock solid on the stock rom. Why can't a Nexus device be the same? People typically complain of manufacturers adding stuff to android that makes it worse. Well, I am not so ready to say that now. As far as I am concerned, HTC is doing a better job with their devices than Google.
PS, TB was buggy when it came out, but all the bugs were subsequently fixed, even on Verizon!
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Couldn't say it better, let's keep it a happy forum, and just to reflect what you just said, the same thing goes for me with Dead Trigger 2, I can't play it because of this, it's simply NOT fair, after I paid for this device.