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So tired of seeing

All the complaints about the EVO. I for one have no problems with it and I see all these whiners about everything wrong with theirs, take it back it it is bad. Stuff happens and it is not the end of the world.
I've read throught everyone's drama from sd card, to light leakage, screen lifting...etc.
I can say I must have got one that is perfect because not once do I have these issues.
If your phone is defective take it back......I think the majority of folks have not probs and the few that do you just got bunk units.....

No problems here

That is the problem with forums right? You only hear people talk about the bad stuff... there is no reason to post if nothing is going wrong. Do you go to a town hall meeting to say that nothing is wrong with your neighborhood?
75% of the posts are posted by the 5% of the people that have problems.
BTW... I am in the 95% that has little to no issues. Most of my issues are getting used to Android.

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All you have to do, is not read our complaints. You just stated that you read through them all yet nobody forced you to do so. Not reading something that bothers you on a forum devoted to discussing EVRYTHING having to do with a device, is even easier than just returning a phone. Some people have returned their Evos, only to get a 2nd and even a 3rd one, all having some or all of the same issues.
I purchased my phone at RadioShack on a new contract. If I return my phone right now then I'll need to start a new contract somewhere else and keeping my number is not 100% guaranteed since I've already ported it from another carrier. My number of 10 years matters more to me than any one phone. So right now I have a phone that keeps resetting along with the build issues and nobody in the LA area has any in stock to just go switch out.
No it’s not the end of the world and that why I'm not screaming this from my rooftop. I'm here on a forum devoted to this device, talking about this device. How on earth this could upset you or anyone else is beyond me.......If I switch to another device, I for one, DO want to read all the comments about that device; the good and bad.......
EDIT: Okay I could be wrong here but I’m guessing this is about all that silly Android vs. Apple kinda stuff? You know the don’t make Android look bad by talking about a bad experience. Guys! This is a forum to talk about the devices we use. We don’t know the number of bad Evos that are out here and so to say the number is 5% is just a guess based on what? For some of us it’s not a big deal, but for others, they have spent their hard earned dollars on what they hoped was a high end superphone and they have every right to come and “*****” about it having major issues as you have the right to ***** about them *****ing. Is this really the way Android using folks treat one another?!

cpnichols said:
BTW... I am in the 95% that has little to no issues. Most of my issues are getting used to Android.
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Haha! +1 on that!

I have not had any complaints but then again if people dont post their complaints how will the rest of the people know that it is an existing issue? example: I had the Hero and the button was peeling, I thought it was me, but it was a defect.
I agree that many people post the same issues over and over and maybe there should be a sticky that shows current defects etc but until then I would not want to see the complaints disappear.
Oh I do have a complaint. Take a photo at size 300kb or higher and send mms. It shrinks it to 10kb to 20kb which is nearly icon size. See if I did not state this it would never get fixed. Apparently this is a Evo only issue and Sprint has gotten several complaints but until more people call and complain about it, it will be pushed under the rug.
Huge screen, 8 megapixel camera and sends itty bitty MMS pictures.

Sorry for raining on your parade, but we paid for the phone too. If we have issues with the device, we're more than welcome to point them out. The only way problems get fixed is when they get pointed out to the companies responsible.

I thought the same thing till my evo started having all the same issues reported. If HTC could make a product without major issues the forums would not be this way. I will never buy a HTC phone again. The screen lifting issue and screen touch issues pushed me over the edge. Your evo is not perfect. All evos have the touch screen issue. Test it out. Some say they dont have the issue but they are holding the phone or have it plugged in. Unplug your phone, set it down and try this without touching the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700612
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/htc-evo-4g-and-droid-incredible-suffering-from-unresponsive-scre/

yea im getting alittle tired of the Anti-Evo trolls myself!!
Ive been using HTC since i had the htc wizard and honestly it seems that everyone is overlooking all the Positives...if your looking for a phone that supposedly is the best ...and i use that term very loosely...go get a iphone..I love the Htc evo and frankly people need to stop hating and overcritizing this seriously awesome phone..i mean **** its been out for less than 2 week lol...

The main issue its people are dumb and would rather ***** than fix their problems. Obviously there are bad units, this is to be expected. If you get one, it sucks, but take the ****ing thing back and get a new one. None in stock? Have sprint order you one.
No need to complain, fix the problem and get on with your lives.
Some people in other threads sound like the engineer from htc is out front dumping salt in their front lawn spelling out screw you. This happens in every launch including the iphone. The genius bars are packed for a reason.
If you want the iphone, great get one. Nice device. This its an android forum don't expect much sympathy nor do most of us care what device you get.

psn1819 said:
Ive been using HTC since i had the htc wizard and honestly it seems that everyone is overlooking all the Positives...if your looking for a phone that supposedly is the best ...and i use that term very loosely...go get a iphone..I love the Htc evo and frankly people need to stop hating and overcritizing this seriously awesome phone..i mean **** its been out for less than 2 week lol...
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Really? So let me get this straight: just because we notice something wrong with the device we paid hundreds of dollars for, we're 'anti-evo trolls'?. That's just moronic.
Why are some people trying so hard to come up with some reason with HTC's mistakes? It's their fault these errors exist, so it's them that need to fix it. They're just another company trying to take money from your pocket. They don't care how loyal they you are to them. In fact, it's even better because they know you'll buy their products no matter how faulty they are.
Also, hardware issues are NOT the only problems with the Evo. People are frequently pointing out software issues with the device, issues that will never be corrected by a simple exchange at the store.
Furthermore, I don't understand why everyone is suggesting an iPhone if one isn't happy with the Evo. You do know there are other Android phone manufacturers, right? Motorola comes to mind.

psn1819 said:
Ive been using HTC since i had the htc wizard and honestly it seems that everyone is overlooking all the Positives...if your looking for a phone that supposedly is the best ...and i use that term very loosely...go get a iphone..I love the Htc evo and frankly people need to stop hating and overcritizing this seriously awesome phone..i mean **** its been out for less than 2 week lol...
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I don't mean to be rude but dude! What do you and all the other happy Evo owners (people having no issues) not understand about the glass touch screen lifting up at the bottom for those of us complaining?! Press your fingers at the bottom of the screen, just below the home key. Try pinching the glas there and now just imagine if you will, that for some of us, the glass is moving up and down and now remains above the frame. Nevermind the light leaking out, I'm talking about the glass moving! And that should be okay with us and we shouldn't come to a Evo forum and talk about it? The logic!

Aridon said:
The main issue its people are dumb and would rather ***** than fix their problems. Obviously there are bad units, this is to be expected. If you get one, it sucks, but take the ****ing thing back and get a new one. None in stock? Have sprint order you one.
No need to complain, fix the problem and get on with your lives.
Some people in other threads sound like the engineer from htc is out front dumping salt in their front lawn spelling out screw you. This happens in every launch including the iphone. The genius bars are packed for a reason.
If you want the iphone, great get one. Nice device. This its an android forum don't expect much sympathy nor do most of us care what device you get.
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Ok smart guy lets see you fix the touch screen issue. I can return my evo 10 times but it wont fix the touch screen issue. Yes I can fix the screen lifting issue but should I have to?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/htc-evo-4g-and-droid-incredible-suffering-from-unresponsive-scre/

Aridon said:
The main issue its people are dumb and would rather ***** than fix their problems. Obviously they ate bad units, this is to be expected. If you get one, it sucks, but take the ****ing thing back and get a new one. None in stock? Have sprint order you one.
No need to complain, fix the problem and get on with your lives.
Some of you sound like the engineer from htc is out front dumping salt in your front lawn spelling out screw you. This happens in every launch including the iphone. The genius bars are packed for a reason.
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I couldnt agree more..its just that i feel like people are buying the evo and phones like it because its shiny and has bright gleeming colors lol..not thinking about everyday use and the fundamentals of these phones...its a phone meant to challenge us and sadly people are not preapred to deal with this lol..but thats my opinion

First of all...my EVO is working 100% correctly. Thank god.
Second i believe that the people with issues have the right to say whats going on with their phones, like stated before...they paid for something that should work right out the box. I had the same issue with an old HD2 that was a POS out the box, yet everyone else was enjoying their phone. With that being said I think what should be done is XDA should have a section in the forums labeled "Complaints & Issues" so they can all be filtered in there. Like that if we ever need to find an issue, we know where to look AND it doesn't clutter the general area with people ranting about their "light leakage" problems...

psn1819 said:
I couldnt agree more..its just that i feel like people are buying the evo and phones like it because its shiny and has bright gleeming colors lol..not thinking about everyday use and the fundamentals of these phones...its a phone meant to challenge us and sadly people are not preapred to deal with this lol..but thats my opinion
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Lol this makes no sense. Having screen lifting and touch screen issues are challenges that we should be prepared to deal with? Are you serious?

shep211 said:
I thought the same thing till my evo started having all the same issues reported. If HTC could make a product without major issues the forums would not be this way. I will never buy a HTC phone again. The screen lifting issue and screen touch issues pushed me over the edge. Your evo is not perfect. All evos have the touch screen issue. Test it out. Some say they dont have the issue but they are holding the phone or have it plugged in. Unplug your phone, set it down and try this without touching the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700612
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/htc-evo-4g-and-droid-incredible-suffering-from-unresponsive-scre/
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I don't have this issue.

psn1819 said:
I couldnt agree more..its just that i feel like people are buying the evo and phones like it because its shiny and has bright gleeming colors lol..not thinking about everyday use and the fundamentals of these phones...its a phone meant to challenge us and sadly people are not preapred to deal with this lol..but thats my opinion
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No. Just stop. We don't pay hundreds of dollars to be 'challenged' by the device. We pay for the damned device to WORK! HTC is responsible for making sure the screen doesn't fall off the frame, the touch sensor isn't laggy, and that the wifi reception doesn't suck ass. Are you fixing the problems? No, so you have no right to say the phone is meant to challenge us.
Do you think we're brain dead idiots? We aren't people to be talked down to by people who think severe hardware and software issues are no big deal. We know why we're buying the Evo, and these issues weren't part of it. As a result, we're demanding they be fixed.
By your logic, I suppose you would pay five hundred dollars for an HTC Rubix Cube only because it 'challenges you'.

I'm so tired of posts like these. "I like mine. If someone other than me doesn't like theirs then there must be something wrong with them."

When did it become OK to release a phone that isnt ready for prime time?

Evo had problems, instinct had LOTS of problems, hell my touch pro 2 NEVER ran 100% right.
Now here I am with an Epic, where the gps doesnt work unless I reboot the phone, uploading a 1.2 mb picture takes entirely too long on 3g as well as the phone studders like heck while it's SLOWLY uploading AND to top it all off - it's looking for a signal 50% or more of the time that I'm in a FULL SIGNAL area.
My question is this:
When did this become acceptable in our society? Why are people not being fired over this?????
What MOD EDIT tester didn't notice that 3g uploads are capped? And did they NEVER EVEN TRY TO USE THE GPS after a night or day of the phone being on?
Coming from the touch pro 2 and touch diamond I was SO READY for the Epic to ROCK MY WORLD.
The sad thing is IT WOULD HAVE if I didn't have to deal with these little annoying issues.
Turning airplane mode on and off everyday so my battery will last 12 hours..which still isnt that good.. Rebooting the phone before I plan to use it for ANYTHING navigation related.
What a sour taste I have in my mouth. I know apologists will say "it hasn't even been out a month" well guess what, I work in IT and if I rolled out something new and it didn't work CORRECTLY on the first day, someone is getting in trouble, if I go home before it's fixed, I get fired.
It should be the same thing with the wireless phone industry.
/rant off.

as much as i enjoy my epic i must agree with you, but its not just the phone industry, hell look at video games took ms years to finally get the rrod under control, sony had its ylod problems too....

Dear god, I am sick and tired of seeing these stupid rants everyday.
Every phone is going to have a problem with it, nothing is perfect.
Complaining about it isn't going to magically make it all better.
If your having that many problems with it, then why not return it?
Mods, please make a rant Forum.

mekeke said:
Dear god, I am sick and tired of seeing these stupid rants everyday.
Every phone is going to have a problem with it, nothing is perfect.
Complaining about it isn't going to magically make it all better.
If your having that many problems with it, then why not return it?
Mods, please make a rant Forum.
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That's a great question and the answer is......because I have no alternative device like this with a keyboard.
Your attitude of "every phone is going to have a problem with it" is exactly WHY this whole situation exists in the first place. People are just OK with this type of thing happening.
Also - it's not just me having problems, the whole internet is FULL of epic owners with the same ****ty issues. All I'm saying is that EVERYTIME a phone is rolled out and **** DOESNT WORK - someone should be losing his or her job BECAUSE HE OR SHE DIDNT DO THEIR JOB!!

J3ff said:
That's a great question and the answer is......because I have no alternative device like this with a keyboard.
Your attitude of "every phone is going to have a problem with it" is exactly WHY this whole situation exists in the first place. People are just OK with this type of thing happening.
Also - it's not just me having problems, the whole internet is FULL of epic owners with the same ****ty issues. All I'm saying is that EVERYTIME a phone is rolled out and **** DOESNT WORK - someone should be losing his or her job BECAUSE HE OR SHE DIDNT DO THEIR JOB!!
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People can only do so much with the limited resources they have.
I am guessing your attitude of a phone is that is has to be perfect.
There is never going to be a phone that is perfect.
Sure, there are problems with this phone, dont you think samsung already knows about this and is trying to fix this?

I'm happy with the Epic apart from the fact it pulls power from the battery while plugged in causing it to take forever to charge if you using it heavily.
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mekeke said:
People can only do so much with the limited resources they have.
I am guessing your attitude of a phone is that is has to be perfect.
There is never going to be a phone that is perfect.
Sure, there are problems with this phone, dont you think samsung already knows about this and is trying to fix this?
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According to a sprint admin on the board they had no idea about this till we started reporting it. Why would samsung release a phone with horrible battery life and a crippled GPS if they knew about it? How did sprint testing NOT REALIZE that 3g doesn't go any faster then 150k.
No a phone doesn't have to be perfect, but these issues are DETRIMENTAL to how the phone works.
What's funny is while I was at the store they had plenty of Epics and not one EVO. I'm sitting there wondering why. I guess I know why now.

While I can be a LOT more patient with stuff, and thats because I am too trusting... I have been lately getting more and more aware that some things were overlooked with this phone.
I'm still hoping though, but I got screwed with the Instinct, from.. wait for it, Samsung, because that was supposed to be the first phone to challenge the iPhone and NOTHING, i mean NOTHING ever came out for it. That phone required reboot a year after it came out for some of the dumb issues, cause it wasn't ever updated, and then it was just flat out not really supported with apps like it was supposed to.
Then I got the Pre (diff company I know) but that was the next iPhone killer, and no apps (besides independent minor developing) for 6 months, while Palm and Sprint sat on their asses deciding to not allow developers to work on the Pre for that time for no reason. Result was after a good launch, people got tired and new phones started coming in.
Now this phone has only been out less than 3 weeks and already got an update, which feels to me that it did help the battery some while using 3G, but I gotta test it out some more. I'll be patient with this one, but it's the last device I get and hang on to if it has certain issues from the get go, because you're right j3ff, I think that all the time too, that people that are cool with a product that is mediocre from the get go is the reason why the US has so many crappy things out before they should be, it's also why Europe and Asia are 3 - 5 years ahead in diff tech areas (devices or services).

J3ff said:
What's funny is while I was at the store they had plenty of Epics and not one EVO. I'm sitting there wondering why. I guess I know why now.
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The popularity of the evo has absolutely nothing to do with the issues that the epic has.

J3ff said:
According to a sprint admin on the board they had no idea about this till we started reporting it. Why would samsung release a phone with horrible battery life and a crippled GPS if they knew about it? How did sprint testing NOT REALIZE that 3g doesn't go any faster then 150k.
No a phone doesn't have to be perfect, but these issues are DETRIMENTAL to how the phone works.
What's funny is while I was at the store they had plenty of Epics and not one EVO. I'm sitting there wondering why. I guess I know why now.
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Dear god, why don't you call Samsung up and ask them then?
I have to admit, my phone does have some problems with it.
But I deal with them. By far this is one of the best phones I've ever had.

Every one who buys the epic right aways does beta testing for them. They know it. This is real world testing for them. Just have to deal with it. Yeah it sucks
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Yea I have to agree that the Evo being constantly sold out has nothing to do with the Epic.. What it is, is that Samsung makes the HTC Evo screens. And with them having other devices to make screens for, they only have so many to go around extra for the Evo, especially since its a slightly bigger than normal screen. This means, whenever Samsung decides to toss some screens HTCs way, they do, otherwise their own devices are a priority. And since Samsung makes the Epic AND the S-AMOLED screens there's no shortage of screens for their own device, hence a lot more Epics on hand. I am surprised that HTC didn't go for the S-Amoled screen too, I think that would have turned the tide for some owners.

mekeke said:
Dear god, why don't you call Samsung up and ask them then?
I have to admit, my phone does have some problems with it.
But I deal with them. By far this is one of the best phones I've ever had.
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Dear god, you are the problem, you deal with them and pay major amounts of MONEY and you're just OK with that.
Sure it's a good phone, but phones up to THREE OR FOUR years OLDER both upload FASTER then the epic and have a full fledged working gps.
Also - I did call samsung and sprint, just like I hope all others will, there is NO REASON to just lay down and "dont worry" about major flaws in a flagship device.

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Dear god, you are the problem, you deal with them and pay major amounts of MONEY and you're just OK with that.
Sure it's a good phone, but phones up to THREE OR FOUR years OLDER both upload FASTER then the epic and have a full fledged working gps.
Also - I did call samsung and sprint, just like I hope all others will, there is NO REASON to just lay down and "dont worry" about major flaws in a flagship device.
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1: I do not pay major amounts of money, I got my Epic as a replacement for my broken HTC Evo.
2:I do not recall the older phones having a GPS four years ago.
Your logic is flawed.

This topic largely turned into what I expected it to...
Yes, Americans are completely willing to deal with broken crap as long as they can tie some fanboy fervor to it. Seriously, all you people in here berating OP here because he doesn't really LIKE the fact that he pays top dollar to beta test things need to grow the hell up. There was a topic like this on the Sprint forums where one particular poster was defending the 150kbps upload cap because he claims to never need to upload anything. It doesn't matter if YOU care about the issue, all that matters is that its there and that it happens to be a couple of issues that should not make it out of beta testing.
Geez, I thought the Xbox 360 was the end of this acceptance of unacceptably broken crap.

mekeke said:
2:I do not recall the older phones having a GPS four years ago.
Your logic is flawed.
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Then you haven't been in the high end phone game for 4 years.

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Then you haven't been in the high end phone game for 4 years.
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Funny thing is, I have. I bought the original iphone, and I dont remember that having a GPS.

usfslacker said:
Yes, Americans are completely willing to deal with broken crap as long as they can tie some fanboy fervor to it. Seriously, all you people in here berating OP here because he doesn't really LIKE the fact that he pays top dollar to beta test things need to grow the hell up. There was a topic like this on the Sprint forums where one particular poster was defending the 150kbps upload cap because he claims to never need to upload anything. It doesn't matter if YOU care about the issue, all that matters is that its there and that it happens to be a couple of issues that should not make it out of beta testing.
Geez, I thought the Xbox 360 was the end of this acceptance of unacceptably broken crap.
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It really is crazy to me. Like i said at my job, if stuff doesn't work I don't go home, EVER. Doesn't matter what it is. How can a big company like Samsung let their designers and people who actually give life to the phone leave and go home if the day before they ship them to sprint everything isn't at least CLOSE to 100%

I bought a pocket PC 6700 like 5 years ago, had Naviagtion, and before that I had a phone that had Navigation I believe too. So your problem was the iPhone didn't have, not devices not having GPS

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Funny thing is, I have. I bought the original iphone, and I dont remember that having a GPS.
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Lol, you mean the original iPhone that failed to ship with 3G support at a time when entry level Nokia's had 3G? The iPhone hasn't been the best phone shipped that year for any of its releases. That gentleman said HIGH end.

Internal Screen Cracking

Overall I have had a great experience with this phone. It is fast, has great hardware, and even had some faith in Samsung for Froyo fixing some of the problems I was having with it. However, when I arrived at school today I pulled my phone out my pocket to check my text messages, and low and behold my screen is shattered internally. My phone does not have 1 scratch on it and has been babied like crazy. This is completely unacceptable for a ~$600 device meant to be transported in pockets and such. I don't have TEP but I will be up at Sprint raising hell until either I walk out of there with a new Epic or Evo.
Has anyone else had this issue happen or have any luck with Sprint fixing it?

Obviously while in your pocket it was not "babied". Phones don't magically break without a reason.
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styckx said:
Obviously while in your pocket it was not "babied". Phones don't magically break without a reason.
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x2..not to raise any wild hairs, but you obviously bumped it up against something. Sprint will replace your screen, but for $35. And thats only if you purchased the Epic after they changed their insurance rules. If you don't have TEP and you bought the phone before that, I don't think there is anything Sprint will do for you. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Also, I worked in wireless sales for a little while..please don't believe you are going to walk into the store and just magically get swapped out for the Evo. You will get what you have, an Epic. The Epic is an overall better phone anyway, minus the amount of dev support.
Be polite when you go into the store, thats the best way to get someone to side with you.

For what's its worth for those who aren't MOD EDIT: LANGUAGE it was an obvious hardware defect as I take extremey good care of my s***. I got it replaced on the spot free of charge.

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I've been called worse, thanks for the compliment! ;D
Welcome to the forum, btw..you probably won't be here long!

What an ironic name you sport.
Congrats on your replacement, though, I guess not everyone's a cynic like us.

I think sprint honers the 1yr manufactures warrantee regardless if you have insurance or not. Just have to fall into that category of a defect or something.

I was voicing concerns over the build quality of the screen in my phone and asking if anyone else had similar experiences to find out if I am the only one this has ever happened too or if there are any known issues before going into the store. Instead people reply with smart ass emoticons . Pardon my frustration . And btw you guys must have a lot of faith in a company that mass produces millions of phones to not even consider the fact that maybe just maybe a sub standard panel was put into a phone. I take it none of you lived through the debacle that was the moment. So since no one else seems to have had any issues with a weak internal screen I shall let the thread die off.

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I was voicing concerns over the build quality of the screen in my phone and asking if anyone else had similar experiences to find out if I am the only one this has ever happened too or if there are any known issues before going into the store. Instead people reply with smart ass emoticons . Pardon my frustration . And btw you guys must have a lot of faith in a company that mass produces millions of phones to not even consider the fact that maybe just maybe a sub standard panel was put into a phone. I take it none of you lived through the debacle that was the moment. So since no one else seems to have had any issues with a weak internal screen I shall let the thread die off.
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I had 3 Moments. Nothing was wrong with the build quality of the Moment..I never had any problem with any of the 3 I owned.

Wow.. what a toolish way to go about things. My screen broke so I'm going to go yell at a sales person till I get a new one. No wonder our economy is so effed up. But cool story bro.
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Kind of wish this had happened at my store, especially after the day I had today...
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Yes not sitting idle while being sold a substandard piece of hardware designed and manufactured outside of the united states is what's wrong with the economy. I must be a scum bag
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Also the samsung moment has documented problems with gps, 3g lock ups, faultry graphic drivers etc... I guess I didn't. Drop my phone or d anything to b reak my screen it was in my ocket it was thoroughl lookd over and could not be attributed to negligence you people amaze me

dannyniceboi....
buy american! lol

I have seen this happen with other devices before. It's not always due to negligence.

Even if its not your fault your attitude is still out of line. If you look no one else is like.. oh yeah my screen did the same thing! You really think you should scold a company and a sales rep because they replaced your phone for free?
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Who said anything about scloding. I was treated with phenomonal customer service and had no issues with sprint at all.

Goodbye Omnia 7

Hey hey XDA. Ive been lurking for a good year or two and have never really had a need to post, but I felt it might be useful to share my experiences with the Omnia7. I got it almost after launch in the UK and was...slightly unimpressed. My love for the handset grew, however the technical issues also started to swell. Firstly I experienced the unresponsive home button issue and had the handset replaced twice due to screen issues. Secondly, the frame started to crack recently and trust me, I dont do anything with my handset to cause it to crack...nor do I bash it around causing the paint to flake off!a
Anyway, the final straw was yesterdays 'black screen of death'. I was using it as normal and put it in my pocket after class. I am walking home and go to check to the time only to find that it wouldnt respond. This is followed by a random reboot followed by a series of white lines flashing across the top of the screen...followed again by a load of pink and green dots appearing and disappearing. The phone reboots again and then works...only to repeat again. Add to this an OS which has yet to be given any sort of new lease of life beyond a bit of copy and paste...well...im saddened.
Orange were kind enough to send another one today but having reviewed my options, im afraid to say im jumping ship back to Android. I was under the impression that the Omnia 7 was a well built handset with a solid OS...but that doesnt seem to be the case. That or im incredibly unlucky. :/ Phone is heading straight to Amazon Marketplace in its shiny new packaging!
Anyway, thanks for providing lurker over here with some amazing advice. Just my two cents! Adios.

Sorry to hear that it didn't work out for you.
How much are you selling it for?

ohirome1 said:
I was under the impression that the Omnia 7 was a well built handset with a solid OS...but that doesnt seem to be the case. That or im incredibly unlucky. :/
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Believe me, you ARE incredibly unlucky. Most people agree this is the best WP7 out there and it's running very smoothly.

Peew971 said:
Believe me, you ARE incredibly unlucky. Most people agree this is the best WP7 out there and it's running very smoothly.
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Yeah it sucks that ive had zero luck with it. On a brighter note, im finally investing in an HD2 purely so I can get back to tinkering...so I might end up back with WP7, albeit in a modded form!

Ive listed it for £300 GBP. Its a bit less than what most people are selling them for however I want to sell quickly in order to get another phone. Im currently using a ghetto as all hell nokia and it pains me to use it :/

ohirome1 said:
Firstly I experienced the unresponsive home button issue..
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Sorry, but see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=929460
The unresponsive issue is something people are confused about and think it's a handset problem. It's not, it's not responsive for a reason and that's when the sensor is covered! See the thread.
As for the other issues, I agree, that's crap luck by the sounds of it.
And dude, I agree with the poor effort from Microsoft regarding updates and copy and paste. I mean it's like they have ignored the competition and the things people really need on their devices. Copy and paste shouldn't be an update, it should of been there in the first place!
But with time, I believe WP7 will stand strong.

Open letter to Nexus about defective screens

I have owned an original Nexus 7 since its inception. I have recommended it to everyone and I am responsible for several people purchasing them. However, when it comes to the 2013 model I have recommended to everyone NOT to purchase one for the obvious reasons.
It is difficult to understand why a company like Nexus is so reluctant to correct a known
problem with an otherwise fantastic product. A few people here have done all the work for Nexus and gone to the trouble of diagnosing the problem (grounding) and even correcting it on there devices, yet Nexus won't even admit there is a problem. I'm sure someone from Nexus monitors this site (or anywhere on the Internet for that matter) and they are completely aware of the problem. Why does a company go out of there way to create a device that appeals to people who love to work on them but when they receive valid feedback they ignore it.
For the individuals who believe there is nothing wrong you should be aware your screen should perform flawlessly (at least as well as the original 7) whether it is plugged in or not. You are doing a real dis-service when you say "sure it misses a few touches or has a few phantom touches its still better then most other devices". This might be true. But, would you accept a great car that occasionally when you turn the steering wheel it didn't respond or it randomly turned on its own.
The bottom line is the screen interface is DEFECTIVE. I wanted so badly to purchase a new one but, after 3 units all with the defect I'm not willing to void the warranty and fix it myself especially on a device that that the manufacturer won't even admit when there is a defect.
Sent from my Original Nexus 7 (because the 3 2013 models i tried were all defective)
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Nexus does not exist as a company.. They are licensed by Google and built by Asus.
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That is exactly how I feel. I have told people on here, Google, Youtube, and other sites who asked about the issues to get there money back. I personally had 2 that had each major issues. I loved it but it's issues made me very disappointed. I showed the associates each time I returned them what was wrong and they had no idea they had problems. You could tell by them trying it themselves they truly had no idea. How many owners except it, don't realize there is issues like children using them. It is such a shame that a company can make a product that honestly needs to be recalled but it just gets swept under a rug. I will not buy another one and I will never buy an ASUS product again. I am getting the hp slate 7 extreme and will be happy with the slightly lower resolution screen but the screen actually working as it should automatically makes it superior to the N713.

I would have no issue recommending the current model to people, just because a vocal minority ate having issues does not mean the device is flawed, mine is perfect, bought the first weekend of availability, and used daily, so hard in that it's a perfect device, bit I would not actually day that
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z0phi3l said:
I would have no issue recommending the current model to people, just because a vocal minority ate having issues does not mean the device is flawed, mine is perfect, bought the first weekend of availability, and used daily, so hard in that it's a perfect device, bit I would not actually day that
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Perfect...except for that keyboard.

It's what I get for trying to post between calls at work, sue me
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z0phi3l said:
I would have no issue recommending the current model to people, just because a vocal minority ate having issues does not mean the device is flawed, mine is perfect, bought the first weekend of availability, and used daily, so hard in that it's a perfect device, bit I would not actually day that
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You say vocal minority. When in fact if you google it there are over 28 million results of screen touch issues. That is no minority. You say yours is perfect then download the screen test apps an run the tests and post videos of the results both in your hands and propped up in a case or laying flat on a couch cushion. If you get phantom touches or missed touches anywhere at anytime it is a defect. It would be exactly the same as going to buy a new car that wont go into drive once in a while. If yours has no issues then consider yourself a lottery winner!

z0phi3l said:
It's what I get for trying to post between calls at work, sue me
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:laugh:

Shrek77 said:
You say vocal minority. When in fact if you google it there are over 28 million results of screen touch issues. That is no minority. You say yours is perfect then download the screen test apps an run the tests and post videos of the results both in your hands and propped up in a case or laying flat on a couch cushion. If you get phantom touches or missed touches anywhere at anytime it is a defect. It would be exactly the same as going to buy a new car that wont go into drive once in a while. If yours has no issues then consider yourself a lottery winner!
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Do you understand how search engines work? You simply cannot infer anything from such a search, which can bring up the same individual's multiple complaints across multiple forums, forum posts with "blank" instead of "problem" (because Google thinks it's a similar enough word), the same forum thread in regular as well as printer-friendly versions, and people saying, "no problem with this device."
A Google search for "Nexus 7 2013 screen problems" yields "About 96,100,000 results" for me. So what is that, 961,000 people complaining 100 times each? It surely isn't 9.61 million complaining 10 times each. This isn't to say there aren't units with problems, but do a Google search for your least-favorite politician's name along with "pedophile" and see what happens. Again, you simply cannot infer anything from such a search.
I've run test apps on mine, before and after. Initially my unit had poor sensitivity, alleviated by the ts10 file from this popular fix. Yes, I had to take a few minutes to do things that Google should have done, but in the end it can take less effort to make a quick fix yourself instead of waiting for someone else.

Pandae said:
Do you understand how search engines work? You simply cannot infer anything from such a search, which can bring up the same individual's multiple complaints across multiple forums, forum posts with "blank" instead of "problem" (because Google thinks it's a similar enough word), the same forum thread in regular as well as printer-friendly versions, and people saying, "no problem with this device."
A Google search for "Nexus 7 2013 screen problems" yields "About 96,100,000 results" for me. So what is that, 961,000 people complaining 100 times each? It surely isn't 9.61 million complaining 10 times each. This isn't to say there aren't units with problems, but do a Google search for your least-favorite politician's name along with "pedophile" and see what happens. Again, you simply cannot infer anything from such a search.
I've run test apps on mine, before and after. Initially my unit had poor sensitivity, alleviated by the ts10 file from this popular fix. Yes, I had to take a few minutes to do things that Google should have done, but in the end it can take less effort to make a quick fix yourself instead of waiting for someone else.
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I do not have problem with normal use but when I display the test pattern I can see ghost touches or erratic touches.
I fact I think that is hardware problem, it look's like the digitiser A/D converter DC supply noisy (to low decoupling capacitors) or shielding/grounding issue.
The problem is that I was not abble to find any schematics to investigate more.
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The touch test in the play store is bogus. I bought my device the day it came out and have never had any touch problems. Only with the app, it starts jumping, and that app is the only time its showed something. Take a screenshot of any pattern, try it with the screenshot. Nothing happens.
I'm not saying that some devices don't have issues, but the numbers not as much as some claim. If you have problems, use the ts10 fix.
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Try going to the Developer Options, and enable "Show Touches." That would show you if there are phantom touches or not.

aarsyl said:
Try going to the Developer Options, and enable "Show Touches." That would show you if there are phantom touches or not.
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I do have it enabled. The apps the only thing that produces phantom touches.
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datallboy said:
I do have it enabled. The apps the only thing that produces phantom touches.
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Have you tried this one? This is the one that I use, and I know that it isn't bogus.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=drvgames.multitouchtest
The touches that are registered reflect the behavior of the tablet.

Posting here does nothing for you. XDA isnt google. XDA isn't Asus. if you have a problem contact Asus and or google.. All this /waaa in a thread on a dev site is nothing but wasted kb.

aarsyl said:
Have you tried this one? This is the one that I use, and I know that it isn't bogus.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=drvgames.multitouchtest
The touches that are registered reflect the behavior of the tablet.
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Nice app, no phantom touches.
People are being fooled with the Nexus 7 II Tester app in the play store. It has patterns which generate fake touches.
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tweaked said:
Posting here does nothing for you. XDA isnt google. XDA isn't Asus. if you have a problem contact Asus and or google.. All this /waaa in a thread on a dev site is nothing but wasted kb.
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I agree. Also OP, if you really want a manufacturer to take you seriously you should probably do a bit more research before sending them a letter, you didn't even come close to getting the company's name correct as has already been said. Either google or asus, or both, but not 'nexus'.

lionelia said:
I do not have problem with normal use but when I display the test pattern I can see ghost touches or erratic touches.
I fact I think that is hardware problem, it look's like the digitiser A/D converter DC supply noisy (to low decoupling capacitors) or shielding/grounding issue.
The problem is that I was not abble to find any schematics to investigate more.
To be continued...
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Asus or Google wouldn't release any kind of schematics for their proprietary electronics. Try the fix in the thread I linked to. It seems there are hardware variances among new N7s, for which the right software patch can compensate.

kingston73 said:
I agree. Also OP, if you really want a manufacturer to take you seriously you should probably do a bit more research before sending them a letter, you didn't even come close to getting the company's name correct as has already been said. Either google or asus, or both, but not 'nexus'.
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so true, this thread is a good laugh
I do hope OP posts his reply from the "Nexus" corporation when/if it ever happens lololol Posting with abysmal ignorance yet expecting to be taken seriously? Priceless. Or a troll. Hard to figure out which.
Posted from my flawless N7 FHD.

mdamaged said:
Perfect...except for that keyboard.
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Touché.