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Good bye HD2, it's been hell and back.

For the last 6 weeks I've had nothing but headaches between two T-Mobile HD2's. I bought on release date, 3 days later I was better off tossing it in the freezer because all it would do is freeze. It also lagged, was buggy and a glitch fest. Apps didnt work, screen didn't work, Sense UI wouldn't load ugh, I can go on. I got another HD2, within the first 7 hours it froze on me too lol. It also had the same issues as the first.
I just want to thank everybody here in the forums for helping solve my phone issue, as I've research and tried everything but they did not help. Also thanks to HTC and T-mobile.com for putting up with my madness lol, although T-Mobile allowed me to get my OG plan back (and keep my HD2), I can now leave T-Mobile (im under no contract) to get something else (leaning towards the Evo 4G over the Nexus One).
P.S. I hope T-Mobile gets there act together and releases a patch ASAP, it sucks that such a incredible piece of hardware is having a lot of problematic issues.

that's weird,I assume you were on stock rom which is why u got the issues...custom roms eliminate those issues u have on stock rom.

i dont think it's so much the stock ROM, mine's been wonderful with the stock ROM. it's more that he was unlucky enough to be one of the first bozos who got the phone with version 2.10. for me, rom version 2.11 has been nothing but bliss, so much that after trying several custom roms i went back to my stock 2.11 because, compared to it, all custom roms suck (winmo devs aren't as good as android devs).
there's a thread with stock roms and 2.11 is usable even without hspl (i kept hspl out of personal preference and I'll try to make my own build). good luck to you anyway. i suggest you get a nexus one and flash desire rom (or heck, get a desire)

If it is freezing, the first setting I would check is
Start > Settings > Menu > All Settings > Today > Items
The setting "Today timeout", at the bottom left hand corner,
should not be selected/enabled.

why shouldnt the today timeout be selected,just out of curiosity?

jkiller122 said:
why shouldnt the today timeout be selected,just out of curiosity?
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i just unchecked it so i'll wait and see if anything improves (i have minor freezing/lag with calls and sms sometimes)...but im also curious what this fixes

I think its more of a "You don't know how to use such a powerful piece of equipment!!!" There is nothing wrong with your phone, its just easier for you to believe your own lie when you return it by posting for others to read what horse doo doo it is,...Like for example, "Transformers missing do to a Faulty sdCARD"...sorry I have full reset my phone several times just to erase everything and removed my sdCard with no Data loss issues, I agree with the other guy, I think its you and you should properly close your apps before claiming its your phone...Ever heard P.E.B.K.A.C before?...Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Chair!!! That's you!!! Grow up!! These Phones Rock, apple fan boys will do anything to make a solid product look bad.

My phone has frozen at least once every day it seems like. But I think i solved the battery issue. I bought a second battery!! Haha, I am so S M R T! At any rate, I love this phone for the big screen and fast internet. I just wish I had a way to get mp4's to watch. Or that more books on barnes and noble were free.

DaveNavy said:
I think its more of a "You don't know how to use such a powerful piece of equipment!!!" There is nothing wrong with your phone, its just easier for you to believe your own lie when you return it by posting for others to read what horse doo doo it is,...Like for example, "Transformers missing do to a Faulty sdCARD"...sorry I have full reset my phone several times just to erase everything and removed my sdCard with no Data loss issues, I agree with the other guy, I think its you and you should properly close your apps before claiming its your phone...Ever heard P.E.B.K.A.C before?...Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Chair!!! That's you!!! Grow up!! These Phones Rock, apple fan boys will do anything to make a solid product look bad.
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LOL, Less talking, more listening kid.
It's obvious you have no idea what your talking about and lacking the intelligence to do so. I have plenty of videos posted here showing how horrible my two devices are (do a search). It's HTC Sense UI that is the problem, not WM6.5. I've shown HTC reps and T-Mobile reps my phone, they've test and diagnosis it, and if it wasn't for me, there wouldn't be a update on the way. So keep talking ****, that's why your teeth are brown.
Dude is soo anal because I gave up on my HD2, lol. If you like yours that fine but don't cry me a river because I didn't like mine lmao!

Raadius said:
I've shown HTC reps and T-Mobile reps my phone, they've test and diagnosis it, and if it wasn't for me, there wouldn't be a update on the way.
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Why does "...and Windows 7 was my idea!" come to mind?

Raadius said:
I've shown HTC reps and T-Mobile reps my phone, they've test and diagnosis it, and if it wasn't for me, there wouldn't be a update on the way.
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Are you serious! You think it's because of you that an update is on it's way?! If you do, you are a severe narcissist. The fact that you think that really makes anything else you claim questionable.

Woot, 8 posts to 1,000.
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zarathustrax said:
Are you serious! You think it's because of you that an update is on it's way?! If you do, you are a severe narcissist. The fact that you think that really makes anything else you claim questionable.
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Agreed.Also i thought you were an Android fan boy, didn't you have a G1?

DaveNavy said:
I think its more of a "You don't know how to use such a powerful piece of equipment!!!" There is nothing wrong with your phone, its just easier for you to believe your own lie when you return it by posting for others to read what horse doo doo it is,...Like for example, "Transformers missing do to a Faulty sdCARD"...sorry I have full reset my phone several times just to erase everything and removed my sdCard with no Data loss issues, I agree with the other guy, I think its you and you should properly close your apps before claiming its your phone...Ever heard P.E.B.K.A.C before?...Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Chair!!! That's you!!! Grow up!! These Phones Rock, apple fan boys will do anything to make a solid product look bad.
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you sir are an idiot.... did you look at his sdcard, you were there while he was using the phone to say it that kind of ****? you ve had good luck with you r device and I congratulate you but not everybody phone has been flawless. so basicly.........STFU.

if you go for android you will know the value of your hd2

Raadius said:
LOL, Less talking, more listening kid.
It's obvious you have no idea what your talking about and lacking the intelligence to do so. I have plenty of videos posted here showing how horrible my two devices are (do a search). It's HTC Sense UI that is the problem, not WM6.5. I've shown HTC reps and T-Mobile reps my phone, they've test and diagnosis it, and if it wasn't for me, there wouldn't be a update on the way. So keep talking ****, that's why your teeth are brown.
Dude is soo anal because I gave up on my HD2, lol. If you like yours that fine but don't cry me a river because I didn't like mine lmao!
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I was with you till you said the bolded
how solipsistic can you be to assume that based on your pathetic user experience that tmobile and htc would generate an entire updated rom to suit just your needs??? Give me a break dude...
this is xdas not fan pandering to overly zealous delusional users that are so far up steve jobs craw they can see his prostate...I mean seriously what the frick???
And I admit for 80% of errors it is brought on by the user and not the device itself. The hd2 has its flaws. All phones do...but for most users they are iphone/android converts expecting the same experience without doing any research on htc and windows mobile. And to those users, yes I say they do deserve any error they get. Why? You didn't take time to learn about your device. This isn't something as simple as a flashlight where you press the on button and something magically happens. Its a pocket pc and that means a lot...

Closing this thread as it is turning into a bashing session. Lets keep it civil.

How much light leak is unacceptable?

I got a bit. Would be happier, obviously, if there weren't any. How much light leakage would you say warrants a return?

make sure the lights are on and give it to someone and if they don't point it out, then it is ok.

Omg, dont do it. Is it killing your experience with the phone? Are you getting payed to discredit this phone? Come with something better to complain about. This is something I'll think some lil girl will worry about. Some s hit you barely even notice unless you look for it. D amn. I had to try to look for a leak to see it. F uckin sad. F ucked up my day.

edub186 said:
Omg, dont do it. Is it killing your experience with the phone? Are you getting payed to discredit this phone? Come with something better to complain about. This is something I'll think some lil girl will worry about. Some s hit you barely even notice unless you look for it. D amn. I had to try to look for a leak to see it. F uckin sad. F ucked up my day.
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I went through the same line of thoughts. But alas, we paid handsomely for this device and I don't think it's unreasonable to expect they be free of manufacturing defects. Yet, I understand that some may be unavoidable. Ergo my question: how much light leak is too much?

nihilion_Zero said:
I went through the same line of thoughts. But alas, we paid handsomely for this device and I don't think it's unreasonable to expect they be free of manufacturing defects. Yet, I understand that some may be unavoidable. Ergo my question: how much light leak is too much?
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you handled his tone with aplomb, i must admit
i remember when i got my nexus, people went crazy about this that and the other.
no device is going to be perfect. ever. and, wait until 2 months from now when another phone comes out, and see how many threads get posted up about how people are whizzed that their phone is already "out of date", even though it isn't
it just happens with technophiles.
if you see another phone like yours (and you probably will sometime), just do a comparison. or, go down to the store, and do a comparison. if yours is substantially worse, then you deserve a replacement. if its the same, or not as bad, then either deal with it, or get a different model of phone

edub186 said:
Omg, dont do it. Is it killing your experience with the phone? Are you getting payed to discredit this phone? Come with something better to complain about. This is something I'll think some lil girl will worry about. Some s hit you barely even notice unless you look for it. D amn. I had to try to look for a leak to see it. F uckin sad. F ucked up my day.
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I totally agree !!!

Just my .02 - If it bothers you, then it's unacceptable. Take it in and have it replaced.

timothydonohue said:
you handled his tone with aplomb, i must admit
i remember when i got my nexus, people went crazy about this that and the other.
no device is going to be perfect. ever. and, wait until 2 months from now when another phone comes out, and see how many threads get posted up about how people are whizzed that their phone is already "out of date", even though it isn't
it just happens with technophiles.
if you see another phone like yours (and you probably will sometime), just do a comparison. or, go down to the store, and do a comparison. if yours is substantially worse, then you deserve a replacement. if its the same, or not as bad, then either deal with it, or get a different model of phone
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Thank you for your thoughtful response. This guidance is reasonable and I will it. BTW, how do you like your Evo over the Nexus? I was still teetering as of yesterday.

I have my EVO. What leaked light are you talkin' about, Willis?

You can hardly even see it in the night. you would have to look for it. if no one never mention this none of us would probly even know. thats how lil it is.
But as the other user say "No phone is perfect"
I will bet you anything. you can be rich as hell and buy a million doller phone. you will always see a post saying "OMG my phone dpad get stuck, is this phone going to ship with a major defect?"
But i think it sometimes get annoying. and carry to far out when people start crying about lil things as in "OMG Its dust under my screen how can i get it out!" or "MY PHONE JUST REBOOTED! BY ITS SELF! WHY!!"
People never do the basic stuff to fix a problem. like maybe try a reboot, or take out the battery, or wipe your phone clean. You people just come to forums looking for answers that you can solved on your own

I got lucky then. Can't see any light leaking.

chazglenn3 said:
I got lucky then. Can't see any light leaking.
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its there but very very minimum unless you're super picky. I'm surfing in the dark right now and still hardly see it unless im looking for it.

YoungAceAtlanta said:
and carry to far out when people start crying about lil things as in "OMG Its dust under my screen how can i get it out!" or "MY PHONE JUST REBOOTED! BY ITS SELF! WHY!!"
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OK so look, I love the Hero. But the Dust under the screen issue was VERY major for me. I'm not talking a few dust particles. I'm talking about people instantly noticing and asking what happened to the top of the screen. Luckily I live next to a really good sprint store and the tech was a nice guy and did a good job of cleaning it out on 2 separate occasions.
BTW, I can't find any issues with the EVO yet, and hopefully the dust issue is only for the Hero. (The reason its a big deal with me is because I clean my screen constantly and that's how the dust keeps getting in...

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I went through the same line of thoughts. But alas, we paid handsomely for this device and I don't think it's unreasonable to expect they be free of manufacturing defects. Yet, I understand that some may be unavoidable. Ergo my question: how much light leak is too much?
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damn, you handled his tone very proffesionally. I would say if it is enough to distract you or make your usage of the EVO less enjoyable (IE. flooding onto the screen) than it is to much

I see a little bit but I bought a case and it hides the little I saw. No biggie.

YoungAceAtlanta said:
You can hardly even see it in the night. you would have to look for it. if no one never mention this none of us would probly even know. thats how lil it is.
But as the other user say "No phone is perfect"
I will bet you anything. you can be rich as hell and buy a million doller phone. you will always see a post saying "OMG my phone dpad get stuck, is this phone going to ship with a major defect?"
But i think it sometimes get annoying. and carry to far out when people start crying about lil things as in "OMG Its dust under my screen how can i get it out!" or "MY PHONE JUST REBOOTED! BY ITS SELF! WHY!!"
People never do the basic stuff to fix a problem. like maybe try a reboot, or take out the battery, or wipe your phone clean. You people just come to forums looking for answers that you can solved on your own
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All this rage from a senior emmber and not once did you answer the question the OP had or even had a rational thought towards the matter, was he complaining? no he was askign a question in which you should have either replied with a resonable response or kept your e-rage to yourself.

just not being able to turn the lights off on the buttons was nearly a deal killer for me on my droid. luckily someone came out with ledshack.
i prefer having no lights at all and just memorize the button placements. it's extremely annoying when you're reading an ebook with night mode one and having a bright light shining in your face.
so for me any light leak would be a deal breaker. so until ledshack gets updated for the evo i'll put off buying it for now.

Antebios said:
I have my EVO. What leaked light are you talkin' about, Willis?
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too soon...
If you didn't know, this wouldn't make sense sooo:
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/05/28/gary-coleman-dead-at-42/

I think I found a defect, it turns off when I leave it alone! omgz!!

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too soon...
If you didn't know, this wouldn't make sense sooo:
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/05/28/gary-coleman-dead-at-42/
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He wasn't referring to Coleman's unfortunate death, I'm pretty sure he used that phrase just to question the issue he brought up.

When did it become OK to release a phone that isnt ready for prime time?

Evo had problems, instinct had LOTS of problems, hell my touch pro 2 NEVER ran 100% right.
Now here I am with an Epic, where the gps doesnt work unless I reboot the phone, uploading a 1.2 mb picture takes entirely too long on 3g as well as the phone studders like heck while it's SLOWLY uploading AND to top it all off - it's looking for a signal 50% or more of the time that I'm in a FULL SIGNAL area.
My question is this:
When did this become acceptable in our society? Why are people not being fired over this?????
What MOD EDIT tester didn't notice that 3g uploads are capped? And did they NEVER EVEN TRY TO USE THE GPS after a night or day of the phone being on?
Coming from the touch pro 2 and touch diamond I was SO READY for the Epic to ROCK MY WORLD.
The sad thing is IT WOULD HAVE if I didn't have to deal with these little annoying issues.
Turning airplane mode on and off everyday so my battery will last 12 hours..which still isnt that good.. Rebooting the phone before I plan to use it for ANYTHING navigation related.
What a sour taste I have in my mouth. I know apologists will say "it hasn't even been out a month" well guess what, I work in IT and if I rolled out something new and it didn't work CORRECTLY on the first day, someone is getting in trouble, if I go home before it's fixed, I get fired.
It should be the same thing with the wireless phone industry.
/rant off.

as much as i enjoy my epic i must agree with you, but its not just the phone industry, hell look at video games took ms years to finally get the rrod under control, sony had its ylod problems too....

Dear god, I am sick and tired of seeing these stupid rants everyday.
Every phone is going to have a problem with it, nothing is perfect.
Complaining about it isn't going to magically make it all better.
If your having that many problems with it, then why not return it?
Mods, please make a rant Forum.

mekeke said:
Dear god, I am sick and tired of seeing these stupid rants everyday.
Every phone is going to have a problem with it, nothing is perfect.
Complaining about it isn't going to magically make it all better.
If your having that many problems with it, then why not return it?
Mods, please make a rant Forum.
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That's a great question and the answer is......because I have no alternative device like this with a keyboard.
Your attitude of "every phone is going to have a problem with it" is exactly WHY this whole situation exists in the first place. People are just OK with this type of thing happening.
Also - it's not just me having problems, the whole internet is FULL of epic owners with the same ****ty issues. All I'm saying is that EVERYTIME a phone is rolled out and **** DOESNT WORK - someone should be losing his or her job BECAUSE HE OR SHE DIDNT DO THEIR JOB!!

J3ff said:
That's a great question and the answer is......because I have no alternative device like this with a keyboard.
Your attitude of "every phone is going to have a problem with it" is exactly WHY this whole situation exists in the first place. People are just OK with this type of thing happening.
Also - it's not just me having problems, the whole internet is FULL of epic owners with the same ****ty issues. All I'm saying is that EVERYTIME a phone is rolled out and **** DOESNT WORK - someone should be losing his or her job BECAUSE HE OR SHE DIDNT DO THEIR JOB!!
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People can only do so much with the limited resources they have.
I am guessing your attitude of a phone is that is has to be perfect.
There is never going to be a phone that is perfect.
Sure, there are problems with this phone, dont you think samsung already knows about this and is trying to fix this?

I'm happy with the Epic apart from the fact it pulls power from the battery while plugged in causing it to take forever to charge if you using it heavily.
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mekeke said:
People can only do so much with the limited resources they have.
I am guessing your attitude of a phone is that is has to be perfect.
There is never going to be a phone that is perfect.
Sure, there are problems with this phone, dont you think samsung already knows about this and is trying to fix this?
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According to a sprint admin on the board they had no idea about this till we started reporting it. Why would samsung release a phone with horrible battery life and a crippled GPS if they knew about it? How did sprint testing NOT REALIZE that 3g doesn't go any faster then 150k.
No a phone doesn't have to be perfect, but these issues are DETRIMENTAL to how the phone works.
What's funny is while I was at the store they had plenty of Epics and not one EVO. I'm sitting there wondering why. I guess I know why now.

While I can be a LOT more patient with stuff, and thats because I am too trusting... I have been lately getting more and more aware that some things were overlooked with this phone.
I'm still hoping though, but I got screwed with the Instinct, from.. wait for it, Samsung, because that was supposed to be the first phone to challenge the iPhone and NOTHING, i mean NOTHING ever came out for it. That phone required reboot a year after it came out for some of the dumb issues, cause it wasn't ever updated, and then it was just flat out not really supported with apps like it was supposed to.
Then I got the Pre (diff company I know) but that was the next iPhone killer, and no apps (besides independent minor developing) for 6 months, while Palm and Sprint sat on their asses deciding to not allow developers to work on the Pre for that time for no reason. Result was after a good launch, people got tired and new phones started coming in.
Now this phone has only been out less than 3 weeks and already got an update, which feels to me that it did help the battery some while using 3G, but I gotta test it out some more. I'll be patient with this one, but it's the last device I get and hang on to if it has certain issues from the get go, because you're right j3ff, I think that all the time too, that people that are cool with a product that is mediocre from the get go is the reason why the US has so many crappy things out before they should be, it's also why Europe and Asia are 3 - 5 years ahead in diff tech areas (devices or services).

J3ff said:
What's funny is while I was at the store they had plenty of Epics and not one EVO. I'm sitting there wondering why. I guess I know why now.
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The popularity of the evo has absolutely nothing to do with the issues that the epic has.

J3ff said:
According to a sprint admin on the board they had no idea about this till we started reporting it. Why would samsung release a phone with horrible battery life and a crippled GPS if they knew about it? How did sprint testing NOT REALIZE that 3g doesn't go any faster then 150k.
No a phone doesn't have to be perfect, but these issues are DETRIMENTAL to how the phone works.
What's funny is while I was at the store they had plenty of Epics and not one EVO. I'm sitting there wondering why. I guess I know why now.
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Dear god, why don't you call Samsung up and ask them then?
I have to admit, my phone does have some problems with it.
But I deal with them. By far this is one of the best phones I've ever had.

Every one who buys the epic right aways does beta testing for them. They know it. This is real world testing for them. Just have to deal with it. Yeah it sucks
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Yea I have to agree that the Evo being constantly sold out has nothing to do with the Epic.. What it is, is that Samsung makes the HTC Evo screens. And with them having other devices to make screens for, they only have so many to go around extra for the Evo, especially since its a slightly bigger than normal screen. This means, whenever Samsung decides to toss some screens HTCs way, they do, otherwise their own devices are a priority. And since Samsung makes the Epic AND the S-AMOLED screens there's no shortage of screens for their own device, hence a lot more Epics on hand. I am surprised that HTC didn't go for the S-Amoled screen too, I think that would have turned the tide for some owners.

mekeke said:
Dear god, why don't you call Samsung up and ask them then?
I have to admit, my phone does have some problems with it.
But I deal with them. By far this is one of the best phones I've ever had.
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Dear god, you are the problem, you deal with them and pay major amounts of MONEY and you're just OK with that.
Sure it's a good phone, but phones up to THREE OR FOUR years OLDER both upload FASTER then the epic and have a full fledged working gps.
Also - I did call samsung and sprint, just like I hope all others will, there is NO REASON to just lay down and "dont worry" about major flaws in a flagship device.

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Dear god, you are the problem, you deal with them and pay major amounts of MONEY and you're just OK with that.
Sure it's a good phone, but phones up to THREE OR FOUR years OLDER both upload FASTER then the epic and have a full fledged working gps.
Also - I did call samsung and sprint, just like I hope all others will, there is NO REASON to just lay down and "dont worry" about major flaws in a flagship device.
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1: I do not pay major amounts of money, I got my Epic as a replacement for my broken HTC Evo.
2:I do not recall the older phones having a GPS four years ago.
Your logic is flawed.

This topic largely turned into what I expected it to...
Yes, Americans are completely willing to deal with broken crap as long as they can tie some fanboy fervor to it. Seriously, all you people in here berating OP here because he doesn't really LIKE the fact that he pays top dollar to beta test things need to grow the hell up. There was a topic like this on the Sprint forums where one particular poster was defending the 150kbps upload cap because he claims to never need to upload anything. It doesn't matter if YOU care about the issue, all that matters is that its there and that it happens to be a couple of issues that should not make it out of beta testing.
Geez, I thought the Xbox 360 was the end of this acceptance of unacceptably broken crap.

mekeke said:
2:I do not recall the older phones having a GPS four years ago.
Your logic is flawed.
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Then you haven't been in the high end phone game for 4 years.

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Then you haven't been in the high end phone game for 4 years.
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Funny thing is, I have. I bought the original iphone, and I dont remember that having a GPS.

usfslacker said:
Yes, Americans are completely willing to deal with broken crap as long as they can tie some fanboy fervor to it. Seriously, all you people in here berating OP here because he doesn't really LIKE the fact that he pays top dollar to beta test things need to grow the hell up. There was a topic like this on the Sprint forums where one particular poster was defending the 150kbps upload cap because he claims to never need to upload anything. It doesn't matter if YOU care about the issue, all that matters is that its there and that it happens to be a couple of issues that should not make it out of beta testing.
Geez, I thought the Xbox 360 was the end of this acceptance of unacceptably broken crap.
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It really is crazy to me. Like i said at my job, if stuff doesn't work I don't go home, EVER. Doesn't matter what it is. How can a big company like Samsung let their designers and people who actually give life to the phone leave and go home if the day before they ship them to sprint everything isn't at least CLOSE to 100%

I bought a pocket PC 6700 like 5 years ago, had Naviagtion, and before that I had a phone that had Navigation I believe too. So your problem was the iPhone didn't have, not devices not having GPS

mekeke said:
Funny thing is, I have. I bought the original iphone, and I dont remember that having a GPS.
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Lol, you mean the original iPhone that failed to ship with 3G support at a time when entry level Nokia's had 3G? The iPhone hasn't been the best phone shipped that year for any of its releases. That gentleman said HIGH end.

Internal Screen Cracking

Overall I have had a great experience with this phone. It is fast, has great hardware, and even had some faith in Samsung for Froyo fixing some of the problems I was having with it. However, when I arrived at school today I pulled my phone out my pocket to check my text messages, and low and behold my screen is shattered internally. My phone does not have 1 scratch on it and has been babied like crazy. This is completely unacceptable for a ~$600 device meant to be transported in pockets and such. I don't have TEP but I will be up at Sprint raising hell until either I walk out of there with a new Epic or Evo.
Has anyone else had this issue happen or have any luck with Sprint fixing it?

Obviously while in your pocket it was not "babied". Phones don't magically break without a reason.
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styckx said:
Obviously while in your pocket it was not "babied". Phones don't magically break without a reason.
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x2..not to raise any wild hairs, but you obviously bumped it up against something. Sprint will replace your screen, but for $35. And thats only if you purchased the Epic after they changed their insurance rules. If you don't have TEP and you bought the phone before that, I don't think there is anything Sprint will do for you. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Also, I worked in wireless sales for a little while..please don't believe you are going to walk into the store and just magically get swapped out for the Evo. You will get what you have, an Epic. The Epic is an overall better phone anyway, minus the amount of dev support.
Be polite when you go into the store, thats the best way to get someone to side with you.

For what's its worth for those who aren't MOD EDIT: LANGUAGE it was an obvious hardware defect as I take extremey good care of my s***. I got it replaced on the spot free of charge.

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I've been called worse, thanks for the compliment! ;D
Welcome to the forum, btw..you probably won't be here long!

What an ironic name you sport.
Congrats on your replacement, though, I guess not everyone's a cynic like us.

I think sprint honers the 1yr manufactures warrantee regardless if you have insurance or not. Just have to fall into that category of a defect or something.

I was voicing concerns over the build quality of the screen in my phone and asking if anyone else had similar experiences to find out if I am the only one this has ever happened too or if there are any known issues before going into the store. Instead people reply with smart ass emoticons . Pardon my frustration . And btw you guys must have a lot of faith in a company that mass produces millions of phones to not even consider the fact that maybe just maybe a sub standard panel was put into a phone. I take it none of you lived through the debacle that was the moment. So since no one else seems to have had any issues with a weak internal screen I shall let the thread die off.

dannyniceboy said:
I was voicing concerns over the build quality of the screen in my phone and asking if anyone else had similar experiences to find out if I am the only one this has ever happened too or if there are any known issues before going into the store. Instead people reply with smart ass emoticons . Pardon my frustration . And btw you guys must have a lot of faith in a company that mass produces millions of phones to not even consider the fact that maybe just maybe a sub standard panel was put into a phone. I take it none of you lived through the debacle that was the moment. So since no one else seems to have had any issues with a weak internal screen I shall let the thread die off.
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I had 3 Moments. Nothing was wrong with the build quality of the Moment..I never had any problem with any of the 3 I owned.

Wow.. what a toolish way to go about things. My screen broke so I'm going to go yell at a sales person till I get a new one. No wonder our economy is so effed up. But cool story bro.
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Kind of wish this had happened at my store, especially after the day I had today...
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Yes not sitting idle while being sold a substandard piece of hardware designed and manufactured outside of the united states is what's wrong with the economy. I must be a scum bag
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Also the samsung moment has documented problems with gps, 3g lock ups, faultry graphic drivers etc... I guess I didn't. Drop my phone or d anything to b reak my screen it was in my ocket it was thoroughl lookd over and could not be attributed to negligence you people amaze me

dannyniceboi....
buy american! lol

I have seen this happen with other devices before. It's not always due to negligence.

Even if its not your fault your attitude is still out of line. If you look no one else is like.. oh yeah my screen did the same thing! You really think you should scold a company and a sales rep because they replaced your phone for free?
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Who said anything about scloding. I was treated with phenomonal customer service and had no issues with sprint at all.

Google taking a beating over Nexus 7 problems...

On Google groups people are upset, and rightfully so.
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!category-topic/nexus/nexus-7/Tetp20r-REo
The Nexus 7 touchscreen problem has been ignored by google, Asus, the tech press......
Google has had a free pass long enough.
I'm glad I was able to return mine.
I hope you guys are paying attention to how they are handling this defect.....IGNORE IT.
I would advise to never buy from a company who ignores or runs from problems.

Mine works fine and most of the complaints are exaggerated as usual
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z0phi3l said:
Mine works fine and most of the complaints are exaggerated as usual
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Sure they are......:good:

z0phi3l said:
Mine works fine and most of the complaints are exaggerated as usual
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Mine does have this annoying touch problems, and it's really annoying. Yours fine? Good, please don't disrespect others complaint if yours "fine".
This is the kind of thing I don't understand, someone does a thread of the issue/news on it and suddenly comes people with their "fine" product and post how "fine" theirs are or/and that they don't care.
If your Nexus is "fine", then no need to read about it, enjoy it, but there are a lot of us who got a bad unit, I can't return it because it started after the 15 days of return warranty, so I'm stuck with it.

z0phi3l said:
Mine works fine and most of the complaints are exaggerated as usual
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I don't have breast cancer so most of the complaints are exaggerated as usual.
See the flaw in your logic?

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Mine does have this annoying touch problems, and it's really annoying. Yours fine? Good, please don't disrespect others complaint if yours "fine".
This is the kind of thing I don't understand, someone does a thread of the issue/news on it and suddenly comes people with their "fine" product and post how "fine" theirs are or/and that they don't care.
If your Nexus is "fine", then no need to read about it, enjoy it, but there are a lot of us who got a bad unit, I can't return it because it started after the 15 days of return warranty, so I'm stuck with it.
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Yup, and the 15 day return period is a joke as well.
All defects should be covered by a free replacement warranty equal to the product warranty.....NOT REPAIR...and the customer should not pay a dime for shipping.
At least one year......after the way Google has handled this they should extend the free replacement warranty to 3 years. (Yeah right)

I'm not buying an Asus device again that's for sure, at least not until the product is well tested...

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I'm not buying an Asus device again that's for sure, at least not until the product is well tested...
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Same here.....Google could have kept me by taking care of the problem.
I'm done with them too. They gave me the run around so bad I'm still dizzy.....

NekroWolfen said:
Mine does have this annoying touch problems, and it's really annoying. Yours fine? Good, please don't disrespect others complaint if yours "fine".
This is the kind of thing I don't understand, someone does a thread of the issue/news on it and suddenly comes people with their "fine" product and post how "fine" theirs are or/and that they don't care.
If your Nexus is "fine", then no need to read about it, enjoy it, but there are a lot of us who got a bad unit, I can't return it because it started after the 15 days of return warranty, so I'm stuck with it.
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Please don't disrespect us who have perfectly working products by only calling out those who have issues.
Mine works fine.

I'm not sure if 7 people in that thread is really Google taking a beating. Also, it really isn't Google's problem. It is Asus'. How many tablets were sold vs how many have the issue. I got mine on launch day and no issue. I've had to send a few different items back to Asus in the past and had to pay shipping every time, but then again, $7 for shipping vs having to buy a new item is ok in my eyes. What a gimme gimme gimme world we live in.

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Please don't disrespect us who have perfectly working products by only calling out those who have issues.
Mine works fine.
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Next time, read well before quoting something directed to another user. I was specifically quoting him for saying that most of the complaints were exagerated, were a touch problem on a touch screen device is definitely not exagerated, besides how could you know if your device is working "fine". My quote wasn't directed at you, not interested in continuing this.

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I'm not sure if 7 people in that thread is really Google taking a beating. Also, it really isn't Google's problem. It is Asus'. How many tablets were sold vs how many have the issue. I got mine on launch day and no issue. I've had to send a few different items back to Asus in the past and had to pay shipping every time, but then again, $7 for shipping vs having to buy a new item is ok in my eyes. What a gimme gimme gimme world we live in.
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ROFL!!
"A gimme gimme world!!" - You are a corporations dream come true!!!
I paid for a defective product and in my business, I take care of my customers who receive defects.
You are SO wrong.
Such a "gimme gimme world" that I just spent money on a new tablet that actually WORKS!!! Nobody gave it to me!! IMAGINE THAT. I spent my hard earned dollars and received a functioning product - WOW!! What a novel concept.
No need to be a prick.....and you were one.

I currently have a mild problem with the touch, it's not as bad as some but its still annoying. Has anyone who has rooted and installed a custom rom experience the touch problem go away?

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I don't have breast cancer so most of the complaints are exaggerated as usual.
See the flaw in your logic?
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You use the word "so" where he uses "and". Two very different words and uses. I'm sorry if someone close has developed some form of cancer but don't bring it to an Android forum...:good:
Edit: Google isn't taking near the beating as you nay sayers lol

Mine's been working fine with no issues *knocks on wood*. I got it at launch. I don't expect any device to launch without issues but maybe it's just me. I'm not seeing this as a common widespread issue.

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You use the word "so" where he uses "and". Two very different words and uses. I'm sorry if someone close has developed some form of cancer but don't bring it to an Android forum...:good:
Edit: Google isn't taking near the beating as you nay sayers lol
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Okay replace and with so, my point still stands.
I also don't see how my analogy would be offensive to someone who knows someone with breast cancer so don't turn it into that, you also don't make the rules so I'll bring it up if I want to.

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I currently have a mild problem with the touch, it's not as bad as some but its still annoying. Has anyone who has rooted and installed a custom rom experience the touch problem go away?
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Yup.
My touchscreen was mildly effected also. Mostly the missing touch problem when not holding the device (ie: sitting on a table or such).
Rooted using the forum tutorials, installed sfhub's ts10 update and the touchscreen works fine now. No skips, no missing or ghost touches.
For the record, I've only been using android for about 2 weeks now so it's not that hard to learn how to apply the fix that worked on mine.
Now, should an end user have to do you this to their device? Nope, it should come this way. For mine it was such an easy fix, it would seem they have no excuse for not designing the software properly in the first place.
I quite like the rest of the devices features (ie: nice screen, battery life, speed, just right size for book reading and fitting in my coat pocket, etc) and it's quickly becoming a favorite device of mine.
As to those saying thiers works fine, I think they are valid comments. Not all the devices are effected and as is normal with human behavior, those that feel "screwed" are often the ones who are the loudest. Not that they're not justified in being upset with getting a "broken" product, they are.
But it is equally valuable to hear from those that get products that work.
How else are we going to know if there are more bad than good if we don't also hear from "the good"?

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Okay replace and with so, my point still stands.
I also don't see how my analogy would be offensive to someone who knows someone with breast cancer so don't turn it into that, you also don't make the rules so I'll bring it up if I want to.
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You're absolutely right: I don't make the rules and you can bring it up if you want to. I was simply suggesting that life and death disease analogies can always offend Someone and might be a little overboard on an Android forum.
You would need to replace so with and. He was making two separate points and connecting with the word and, while you are expressing cause-effect with so (should be used in conclusion). Though due to ambiguity I could be completely wrong. You brought up logic. I just thought it would be easier for two rational human beings to get to the same spot.
And my G2 screen is wonkier than my Nexus 7. Turning it off and back on seems to solve it though.

Guys, let's not argue about whether what's important to one is also important to you. Everyone has their own opinion. It looks like enough people are upset about the issues, and that is a fact.
I am one of those people. After devs here on XDA put together near perfect AOSP roms for my ThunderBolt, I expected stuff coming out of Google directly to be rock solid. N7 is my first Nexus device, and I am quite disappointed with regular random reboots that I still have, as well as intermittent touch screen issues. For example, I can't play Subway Surfers since N7 keeps ignoring some portion of screen touches (leading me to crash lol).
My HTC DNA, however, is rock solid on the stock rom. Why can't a Nexus device be the same? People typically complain of manufacturers adding stuff to android that makes it worse. Well, I am not so ready to say that now. As far as I am concerned, HTC is doing a better job with their devices than Google.
PS, TB was buggy when it came out, but all the bugs were subsequently fixed, even on Verizon!
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Guys, let's not argue about whether what's important to one is also important to you. Everyone has their own opinion. It looks like enough people are upset about the issues, and that is a fact.
I am one of those people. After devs here on XDA put together near perfect AOSP roms for my ThunderBolt, I expected stuff coming out of Google directly to be rock solid. N7 is my first Nexus device, and I am quite disappointed with regular random reboots that I still have, as well as intermittent touch screen issues. For example, I can't play Subway Surfers since N7 keeps ignoring some portion of screen touches (leading me to crash lol).
My HTC DNA, however, is rock solid on the stock rom. Why can't a Nexus device be the same? People typically complain of manufacturers adding stuff to android that makes it worse. Well, I am not so ready to say that now. As far as I am concerned, HTC is doing a better job with their devices than Google.
PS, TB was buggy when it came out, but all the bugs were subsequently fixed, even on Verizon!
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Couldn't say it better, let's keep it a happy forum, and just to reflect what you just said, the same thing goes for me with Dead Trigger 2, I can't play it because of this, it's simply NOT fair, after I paid for this device.