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Good bye HD2, it's been hell and back.

For the last 6 weeks I've had nothing but headaches between two T-Mobile HD2's. I bought on release date, 3 days later I was better off tossing it in the freezer because all it would do is freeze. It also lagged, was buggy and a glitch fest. Apps didnt work, screen didn't work, Sense UI wouldn't load ugh, I can go on. I got another HD2, within the first 7 hours it froze on me too lol. It also had the same issues as the first.
I just want to thank everybody here in the forums for helping solve my phone issue, as I've research and tried everything but they did not help. Also thanks to HTC and T-mobile.com for putting up with my madness lol, although T-Mobile allowed me to get my OG plan back (and keep my HD2), I can now leave T-Mobile (im under no contract) to get something else (leaning towards the Evo 4G over the Nexus One).
P.S. I hope T-Mobile gets there act together and releases a patch ASAP, it sucks that such a incredible piece of hardware is having a lot of problematic issues.

that's weird,I assume you were on stock rom which is why u got the issues...custom roms eliminate those issues u have on stock rom.

i dont think it's so much the stock ROM, mine's been wonderful with the stock ROM. it's more that he was unlucky enough to be one of the first bozos who got the phone with version 2.10. for me, rom version 2.11 has been nothing but bliss, so much that after trying several custom roms i went back to my stock 2.11 because, compared to it, all custom roms suck (winmo devs aren't as good as android devs).
there's a thread with stock roms and 2.11 is usable even without hspl (i kept hspl out of personal preference and I'll try to make my own build). good luck to you anyway. i suggest you get a nexus one and flash desire rom (or heck, get a desire)

If it is freezing, the first setting I would check is
Start > Settings > Menu > All Settings > Today > Items
The setting "Today timeout", at the bottom left hand corner,
should not be selected/enabled.

why shouldnt the today timeout be selected,just out of curiosity?

jkiller122 said:
why shouldnt the today timeout be selected,just out of curiosity?
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i just unchecked it so i'll wait and see if anything improves (i have minor freezing/lag with calls and sms sometimes)...but im also curious what this fixes

I think its more of a "You don't know how to use such a powerful piece of equipment!!!" There is nothing wrong with your phone, its just easier for you to believe your own lie when you return it by posting for others to read what horse doo doo it is,...Like for example, "Transformers missing do to a Faulty sdCARD"...sorry I have full reset my phone several times just to erase everything and removed my sdCard with no Data loss issues, I agree with the other guy, I think its you and you should properly close your apps before claiming its your phone...Ever heard P.E.B.K.A.C before?...Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Chair!!! That's you!!! Grow up!! These Phones Rock, apple fan boys will do anything to make a solid product look bad.

My phone has frozen at least once every day it seems like. But I think i solved the battery issue. I bought a second battery!! Haha, I am so S M R T! At any rate, I love this phone for the big screen and fast internet. I just wish I had a way to get mp4's to watch. Or that more books on barnes and noble were free.

DaveNavy said:
I think its more of a "You don't know how to use such a powerful piece of equipment!!!" There is nothing wrong with your phone, its just easier for you to believe your own lie when you return it by posting for others to read what horse doo doo it is,...Like for example, "Transformers missing do to a Faulty sdCARD"...sorry I have full reset my phone several times just to erase everything and removed my sdCard with no Data loss issues, I agree with the other guy, I think its you and you should properly close your apps before claiming its your phone...Ever heard P.E.B.K.A.C before?...Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Chair!!! That's you!!! Grow up!! These Phones Rock, apple fan boys will do anything to make a solid product look bad.
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LOL, Less talking, more listening kid.
It's obvious you have no idea what your talking about and lacking the intelligence to do so. I have plenty of videos posted here showing how horrible my two devices are (do a search). It's HTC Sense UI that is the problem, not WM6.5. I've shown HTC reps and T-Mobile reps my phone, they've test and diagnosis it, and if it wasn't for me, there wouldn't be a update on the way. So keep talking ****, that's why your teeth are brown.
Dude is soo anal because I gave up on my HD2, lol. If you like yours that fine but don't cry me a river because I didn't like mine lmao!

Raadius said:
I've shown HTC reps and T-Mobile reps my phone, they've test and diagnosis it, and if it wasn't for me, there wouldn't be a update on the way.
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Why does "...and Windows 7 was my idea!" come to mind?

Raadius said:
I've shown HTC reps and T-Mobile reps my phone, they've test and diagnosis it, and if it wasn't for me, there wouldn't be a update on the way.
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Are you serious! You think it's because of you that an update is on it's way?! If you do, you are a severe narcissist. The fact that you think that really makes anything else you claim questionable.

Woot, 8 posts to 1,000.
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zarathustrax said:
Are you serious! You think it's because of you that an update is on it's way?! If you do, you are a severe narcissist. The fact that you think that really makes anything else you claim questionable.
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Agreed.Also i thought you were an Android fan boy, didn't you have a G1?

DaveNavy said:
I think its more of a "You don't know how to use such a powerful piece of equipment!!!" There is nothing wrong with your phone, its just easier for you to believe your own lie when you return it by posting for others to read what horse doo doo it is,...Like for example, "Transformers missing do to a Faulty sdCARD"...sorry I have full reset my phone several times just to erase everything and removed my sdCard with no Data loss issues, I agree with the other guy, I think its you and you should properly close your apps before claiming its your phone...Ever heard P.E.B.K.A.C before?...Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Chair!!! That's you!!! Grow up!! These Phones Rock, apple fan boys will do anything to make a solid product look bad.
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you sir are an idiot.... did you look at his sdcard, you were there while he was using the phone to say it that kind of ****? you ve had good luck with you r device and I congratulate you but not everybody phone has been flawless. so basicly.........STFU.

if you go for android you will know the value of your hd2

Raadius said:
LOL, Less talking, more listening kid.
It's obvious you have no idea what your talking about and lacking the intelligence to do so. I have plenty of videos posted here showing how horrible my two devices are (do a search). It's HTC Sense UI that is the problem, not WM6.5. I've shown HTC reps and T-Mobile reps my phone, they've test and diagnosis it, and if it wasn't for me, there wouldn't be a update on the way. So keep talking ****, that's why your teeth are brown.
Dude is soo anal because I gave up on my HD2, lol. If you like yours that fine but don't cry me a river because I didn't like mine lmao!
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I was with you till you said the bolded
how solipsistic can you be to assume that based on your pathetic user experience that tmobile and htc would generate an entire updated rom to suit just your needs??? Give me a break dude...
this is xdas not fan pandering to overly zealous delusional users that are so far up steve jobs craw they can see his prostate...I mean seriously what the frick???
And I admit for 80% of errors it is brought on by the user and not the device itself. The hd2 has its flaws. All phones do...but for most users they are iphone/android converts expecting the same experience without doing any research on htc and windows mobile. And to those users, yes I say they do deserve any error they get. Why? You didn't take time to learn about your device. This isn't something as simple as a flashlight where you press the on button and something magically happens. Its a pocket pc and that means a lot...

Closing this thread as it is turning into a bashing session. Lets keep it civil.

So tired of seeing

All the complaints about the EVO. I for one have no problems with it and I see all these whiners about everything wrong with theirs, take it back it it is bad. Stuff happens and it is not the end of the world.
I've read throught everyone's drama from sd card, to light leakage, screen lifting...etc.
I can say I must have got one that is perfect because not once do I have these issues.
If your phone is defective take it back......I think the majority of folks have not probs and the few that do you just got bunk units.....

No problems here

That is the problem with forums right? You only hear people talk about the bad stuff... there is no reason to post if nothing is going wrong. Do you go to a town hall meeting to say that nothing is wrong with your neighborhood?
75% of the posts are posted by the 5% of the people that have problems.
BTW... I am in the 95% that has little to no issues. Most of my issues are getting used to Android.

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All you have to do, is not read our complaints. You just stated that you read through them all yet nobody forced you to do so. Not reading something that bothers you on a forum devoted to discussing EVRYTHING having to do with a device, is even easier than just returning a phone. Some people have returned their Evos, only to get a 2nd and even a 3rd one, all having some or all of the same issues.
I purchased my phone at RadioShack on a new contract. If I return my phone right now then I'll need to start a new contract somewhere else and keeping my number is not 100% guaranteed since I've already ported it from another carrier. My number of 10 years matters more to me than any one phone. So right now I have a phone that keeps resetting along with the build issues and nobody in the LA area has any in stock to just go switch out.
No it’s not the end of the world and that why I'm not screaming this from my rooftop. I'm here on a forum devoted to this device, talking about this device. How on earth this could upset you or anyone else is beyond me.......If I switch to another device, I for one, DO want to read all the comments about that device; the good and bad.......
EDIT: Okay I could be wrong here but I’m guessing this is about all that silly Android vs. Apple kinda stuff? You know the don’t make Android look bad by talking about a bad experience. Guys! This is a forum to talk about the devices we use. We don’t know the number of bad Evos that are out here and so to say the number is 5% is just a guess based on what? For some of us it’s not a big deal, but for others, they have spent their hard earned dollars on what they hoped was a high end superphone and they have every right to come and “*****” about it having major issues as you have the right to ***** about them *****ing. Is this really the way Android using folks treat one another?!

cpnichols said:
BTW... I am in the 95% that has little to no issues. Most of my issues are getting used to Android.
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Haha! +1 on that!

I have not had any complaints but then again if people dont post their complaints how will the rest of the people know that it is an existing issue? example: I had the Hero and the button was peeling, I thought it was me, but it was a defect.
I agree that many people post the same issues over and over and maybe there should be a sticky that shows current defects etc but until then I would not want to see the complaints disappear.
Oh I do have a complaint. Take a photo at size 300kb or higher and send mms. It shrinks it to 10kb to 20kb which is nearly icon size. See if I did not state this it would never get fixed. Apparently this is a Evo only issue and Sprint has gotten several complaints but until more people call and complain about it, it will be pushed under the rug.
Huge screen, 8 megapixel camera and sends itty bitty MMS pictures.

Sorry for raining on your parade, but we paid for the phone too. If we have issues with the device, we're more than welcome to point them out. The only way problems get fixed is when they get pointed out to the companies responsible.

I thought the same thing till my evo started having all the same issues reported. If HTC could make a product without major issues the forums would not be this way. I will never buy a HTC phone again. The screen lifting issue and screen touch issues pushed me over the edge. Your evo is not perfect. All evos have the touch screen issue. Test it out. Some say they dont have the issue but they are holding the phone or have it plugged in. Unplug your phone, set it down and try this without touching the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700612
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/htc-evo-4g-and-droid-incredible-suffering-from-unresponsive-scre/

yea im getting alittle tired of the Anti-Evo trolls myself!!
Ive been using HTC since i had the htc wizard and honestly it seems that everyone is overlooking all the Positives...if your looking for a phone that supposedly is the best ...and i use that term very loosely...go get a iphone..I love the Htc evo and frankly people need to stop hating and overcritizing this seriously awesome phone..i mean **** its been out for less than 2 week lol...

The main issue its people are dumb and would rather ***** than fix their problems. Obviously there are bad units, this is to be expected. If you get one, it sucks, but take the ****ing thing back and get a new one. None in stock? Have sprint order you one.
No need to complain, fix the problem and get on with your lives.
Some people in other threads sound like the engineer from htc is out front dumping salt in their front lawn spelling out screw you. This happens in every launch including the iphone. The genius bars are packed for a reason.
If you want the iphone, great get one. Nice device. This its an android forum don't expect much sympathy nor do most of us care what device you get.

psn1819 said:
Ive been using HTC since i had the htc wizard and honestly it seems that everyone is overlooking all the Positives...if your looking for a phone that supposedly is the best ...and i use that term very loosely...go get a iphone..I love the Htc evo and frankly people need to stop hating and overcritizing this seriously awesome phone..i mean **** its been out for less than 2 week lol...
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Really? So let me get this straight: just because we notice something wrong with the device we paid hundreds of dollars for, we're 'anti-evo trolls'?. That's just moronic.
Why are some people trying so hard to come up with some reason with HTC's mistakes? It's their fault these errors exist, so it's them that need to fix it. They're just another company trying to take money from your pocket. They don't care how loyal they you are to them. In fact, it's even better because they know you'll buy their products no matter how faulty they are.
Also, hardware issues are NOT the only problems with the Evo. People are frequently pointing out software issues with the device, issues that will never be corrected by a simple exchange at the store.
Furthermore, I don't understand why everyone is suggesting an iPhone if one isn't happy with the Evo. You do know there are other Android phone manufacturers, right? Motorola comes to mind.

psn1819 said:
Ive been using HTC since i had the htc wizard and honestly it seems that everyone is overlooking all the Positives...if your looking for a phone that supposedly is the best ...and i use that term very loosely...go get a iphone..I love the Htc evo and frankly people need to stop hating and overcritizing this seriously awesome phone..i mean **** its been out for less than 2 week lol...
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I don't mean to be rude but dude! What do you and all the other happy Evo owners (people having no issues) not understand about the glass touch screen lifting up at the bottom for those of us complaining?! Press your fingers at the bottom of the screen, just below the home key. Try pinching the glas there and now just imagine if you will, that for some of us, the glass is moving up and down and now remains above the frame. Nevermind the light leaking out, I'm talking about the glass moving! And that should be okay with us and we shouldn't come to a Evo forum and talk about it? The logic!

Aridon said:
The main issue its people are dumb and would rather ***** than fix their problems. Obviously there are bad units, this is to be expected. If you get one, it sucks, but take the ****ing thing back and get a new one. None in stock? Have sprint order you one.
No need to complain, fix the problem and get on with your lives.
Some people in other threads sound like the engineer from htc is out front dumping salt in their front lawn spelling out screw you. This happens in every launch including the iphone. The genius bars are packed for a reason.
If you want the iphone, great get one. Nice device. This its an android forum don't expect much sympathy nor do most of us care what device you get.
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Ok smart guy lets see you fix the touch screen issue. I can return my evo 10 times but it wont fix the touch screen issue. Yes I can fix the screen lifting issue but should I have to?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/htc-evo-4g-and-droid-incredible-suffering-from-unresponsive-scre/

Aridon said:
The main issue its people are dumb and would rather ***** than fix their problems. Obviously they ate bad units, this is to be expected. If you get one, it sucks, but take the ****ing thing back and get a new one. None in stock? Have sprint order you one.
No need to complain, fix the problem and get on with your lives.
Some of you sound like the engineer from htc is out front dumping salt in your front lawn spelling out screw you. This happens in every launch including the iphone. The genius bars are packed for a reason.
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I couldnt agree more..its just that i feel like people are buying the evo and phones like it because its shiny and has bright gleeming colors lol..not thinking about everyday use and the fundamentals of these phones...its a phone meant to challenge us and sadly people are not preapred to deal with this lol..but thats my opinion

First of all...my EVO is working 100% correctly. Thank god.
Second i believe that the people with issues have the right to say whats going on with their phones, like stated before...they paid for something that should work right out the box. I had the same issue with an old HD2 that was a POS out the box, yet everyone else was enjoying their phone. With that being said I think what should be done is XDA should have a section in the forums labeled "Complaints & Issues" so they can all be filtered in there. Like that if we ever need to find an issue, we know where to look AND it doesn't clutter the general area with people ranting about their "light leakage" problems...

psn1819 said:
I couldnt agree more..its just that i feel like people are buying the evo and phones like it because its shiny and has bright gleeming colors lol..not thinking about everyday use and the fundamentals of these phones...its a phone meant to challenge us and sadly people are not preapred to deal with this lol..but thats my opinion
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Lol this makes no sense. Having screen lifting and touch screen issues are challenges that we should be prepared to deal with? Are you serious?

shep211 said:
I thought the same thing till my evo started having all the same issues reported. If HTC could make a product without major issues the forums would not be this way. I will never buy a HTC phone again. The screen lifting issue and screen touch issues pushed me over the edge. Your evo is not perfect. All evos have the touch screen issue. Test it out. Some say they dont have the issue but they are holding the phone or have it plugged in. Unplug your phone, set it down and try this without touching the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700612
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I don't have this issue.

psn1819 said:
I couldnt agree more..its just that i feel like people are buying the evo and phones like it because its shiny and has bright gleeming colors lol..not thinking about everyday use and the fundamentals of these phones...its a phone meant to challenge us and sadly people are not preapred to deal with this lol..but thats my opinion
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No. Just stop. We don't pay hundreds of dollars to be 'challenged' by the device. We pay for the damned device to WORK! HTC is responsible for making sure the screen doesn't fall off the frame, the touch sensor isn't laggy, and that the wifi reception doesn't suck ass. Are you fixing the problems? No, so you have no right to say the phone is meant to challenge us.
Do you think we're brain dead idiots? We aren't people to be talked down to by people who think severe hardware and software issues are no big deal. We know why we're buying the Evo, and these issues weren't part of it. As a result, we're demanding they be fixed.
By your logic, I suppose you would pay five hundred dollars for an HTC Rubix Cube only because it 'challenges you'.

I'm so tired of posts like these. "I like mine. If someone other than me doesn't like theirs then there must be something wrong with them."

When did it become OK to release a phone that isnt ready for prime time?

Evo had problems, instinct had LOTS of problems, hell my touch pro 2 NEVER ran 100% right.
Now here I am with an Epic, where the gps doesnt work unless I reboot the phone, uploading a 1.2 mb picture takes entirely too long on 3g as well as the phone studders like heck while it's SLOWLY uploading AND to top it all off - it's looking for a signal 50% or more of the time that I'm in a FULL SIGNAL area.
My question is this:
When did this become acceptable in our society? Why are people not being fired over this?????
What MOD EDIT tester didn't notice that 3g uploads are capped? And did they NEVER EVEN TRY TO USE THE GPS after a night or day of the phone being on?
Coming from the touch pro 2 and touch diamond I was SO READY for the Epic to ROCK MY WORLD.
The sad thing is IT WOULD HAVE if I didn't have to deal with these little annoying issues.
Turning airplane mode on and off everyday so my battery will last 12 hours..which still isnt that good.. Rebooting the phone before I plan to use it for ANYTHING navigation related.
What a sour taste I have in my mouth. I know apologists will say "it hasn't even been out a month" well guess what, I work in IT and if I rolled out something new and it didn't work CORRECTLY on the first day, someone is getting in trouble, if I go home before it's fixed, I get fired.
It should be the same thing with the wireless phone industry.
/rant off.

as much as i enjoy my epic i must agree with you, but its not just the phone industry, hell look at video games took ms years to finally get the rrod under control, sony had its ylod problems too....

Dear god, I am sick and tired of seeing these stupid rants everyday.
Every phone is going to have a problem with it, nothing is perfect.
Complaining about it isn't going to magically make it all better.
If your having that many problems with it, then why not return it?
Mods, please make a rant Forum.

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Dear god, I am sick and tired of seeing these stupid rants everyday.
Every phone is going to have a problem with it, nothing is perfect.
Complaining about it isn't going to magically make it all better.
If your having that many problems with it, then why not return it?
Mods, please make a rant Forum.
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That's a great question and the answer is......because I have no alternative device like this with a keyboard.
Your attitude of "every phone is going to have a problem with it" is exactly WHY this whole situation exists in the first place. People are just OK with this type of thing happening.
Also - it's not just me having problems, the whole internet is FULL of epic owners with the same ****ty issues. All I'm saying is that EVERYTIME a phone is rolled out and **** DOESNT WORK - someone should be losing his or her job BECAUSE HE OR SHE DIDNT DO THEIR JOB!!

J3ff said:
That's a great question and the answer is......because I have no alternative device like this with a keyboard.
Your attitude of "every phone is going to have a problem with it" is exactly WHY this whole situation exists in the first place. People are just OK with this type of thing happening.
Also - it's not just me having problems, the whole internet is FULL of epic owners with the same ****ty issues. All I'm saying is that EVERYTIME a phone is rolled out and **** DOESNT WORK - someone should be losing his or her job BECAUSE HE OR SHE DIDNT DO THEIR JOB!!
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People can only do so much with the limited resources they have.
I am guessing your attitude of a phone is that is has to be perfect.
There is never going to be a phone that is perfect.
Sure, there are problems with this phone, dont you think samsung already knows about this and is trying to fix this?

I'm happy with the Epic apart from the fact it pulls power from the battery while plugged in causing it to take forever to charge if you using it heavily.
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mekeke said:
People can only do so much with the limited resources they have.
I am guessing your attitude of a phone is that is has to be perfect.
There is never going to be a phone that is perfect.
Sure, there are problems with this phone, dont you think samsung already knows about this and is trying to fix this?
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According to a sprint admin on the board they had no idea about this till we started reporting it. Why would samsung release a phone with horrible battery life and a crippled GPS if they knew about it? How did sprint testing NOT REALIZE that 3g doesn't go any faster then 150k.
No a phone doesn't have to be perfect, but these issues are DETRIMENTAL to how the phone works.
What's funny is while I was at the store they had plenty of Epics and not one EVO. I'm sitting there wondering why. I guess I know why now.

While I can be a LOT more patient with stuff, and thats because I am too trusting... I have been lately getting more and more aware that some things were overlooked with this phone.
I'm still hoping though, but I got screwed with the Instinct, from.. wait for it, Samsung, because that was supposed to be the first phone to challenge the iPhone and NOTHING, i mean NOTHING ever came out for it. That phone required reboot a year after it came out for some of the dumb issues, cause it wasn't ever updated, and then it was just flat out not really supported with apps like it was supposed to.
Then I got the Pre (diff company I know) but that was the next iPhone killer, and no apps (besides independent minor developing) for 6 months, while Palm and Sprint sat on their asses deciding to not allow developers to work on the Pre for that time for no reason. Result was after a good launch, people got tired and new phones started coming in.
Now this phone has only been out less than 3 weeks and already got an update, which feels to me that it did help the battery some while using 3G, but I gotta test it out some more. I'll be patient with this one, but it's the last device I get and hang on to if it has certain issues from the get go, because you're right j3ff, I think that all the time too, that people that are cool with a product that is mediocre from the get go is the reason why the US has so many crappy things out before they should be, it's also why Europe and Asia are 3 - 5 years ahead in diff tech areas (devices or services).

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What's funny is while I was at the store they had plenty of Epics and not one EVO. I'm sitting there wondering why. I guess I know why now.
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The popularity of the evo has absolutely nothing to do with the issues that the epic has.

J3ff said:
According to a sprint admin on the board they had no idea about this till we started reporting it. Why would samsung release a phone with horrible battery life and a crippled GPS if they knew about it? How did sprint testing NOT REALIZE that 3g doesn't go any faster then 150k.
No a phone doesn't have to be perfect, but these issues are DETRIMENTAL to how the phone works.
What's funny is while I was at the store they had plenty of Epics and not one EVO. I'm sitting there wondering why. I guess I know why now.
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Dear god, why don't you call Samsung up and ask them then?
I have to admit, my phone does have some problems with it.
But I deal with them. By far this is one of the best phones I've ever had.

Every one who buys the epic right aways does beta testing for them. They know it. This is real world testing for them. Just have to deal with it. Yeah it sucks
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Yea I have to agree that the Evo being constantly sold out has nothing to do with the Epic.. What it is, is that Samsung makes the HTC Evo screens. And with them having other devices to make screens for, they only have so many to go around extra for the Evo, especially since its a slightly bigger than normal screen. This means, whenever Samsung decides to toss some screens HTCs way, they do, otherwise their own devices are a priority. And since Samsung makes the Epic AND the S-AMOLED screens there's no shortage of screens for their own device, hence a lot more Epics on hand. I am surprised that HTC didn't go for the S-Amoled screen too, I think that would have turned the tide for some owners.

mekeke said:
Dear god, why don't you call Samsung up and ask them then?
I have to admit, my phone does have some problems with it.
But I deal with them. By far this is one of the best phones I've ever had.
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Dear god, you are the problem, you deal with them and pay major amounts of MONEY and you're just OK with that.
Sure it's a good phone, but phones up to THREE OR FOUR years OLDER both upload FASTER then the epic and have a full fledged working gps.
Also - I did call samsung and sprint, just like I hope all others will, there is NO REASON to just lay down and "dont worry" about major flaws in a flagship device.

J3ff said:
Dear god, you are the problem, you deal with them and pay major amounts of MONEY and you're just OK with that.
Sure it's a good phone, but phones up to THREE OR FOUR years OLDER both upload FASTER then the epic and have a full fledged working gps.
Also - I did call samsung and sprint, just like I hope all others will, there is NO REASON to just lay down and "dont worry" about major flaws in a flagship device.
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1: I do not pay major amounts of money, I got my Epic as a replacement for my broken HTC Evo.
2:I do not recall the older phones having a GPS four years ago.
Your logic is flawed.

This topic largely turned into what I expected it to...
Yes, Americans are completely willing to deal with broken crap as long as they can tie some fanboy fervor to it. Seriously, all you people in here berating OP here because he doesn't really LIKE the fact that he pays top dollar to beta test things need to grow the hell up. There was a topic like this on the Sprint forums where one particular poster was defending the 150kbps upload cap because he claims to never need to upload anything. It doesn't matter if YOU care about the issue, all that matters is that its there and that it happens to be a couple of issues that should not make it out of beta testing.
Geez, I thought the Xbox 360 was the end of this acceptance of unacceptably broken crap.

mekeke said:
2:I do not recall the older phones having a GPS four years ago.
Your logic is flawed.
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Then you haven't been in the high end phone game for 4 years.

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Then you haven't been in the high end phone game for 4 years.
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Funny thing is, I have. I bought the original iphone, and I dont remember that having a GPS.

usfslacker said:
Yes, Americans are completely willing to deal with broken crap as long as they can tie some fanboy fervor to it. Seriously, all you people in here berating OP here because he doesn't really LIKE the fact that he pays top dollar to beta test things need to grow the hell up. There was a topic like this on the Sprint forums where one particular poster was defending the 150kbps upload cap because he claims to never need to upload anything. It doesn't matter if YOU care about the issue, all that matters is that its there and that it happens to be a couple of issues that should not make it out of beta testing.
Geez, I thought the Xbox 360 was the end of this acceptance of unacceptably broken crap.
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It really is crazy to me. Like i said at my job, if stuff doesn't work I don't go home, EVER. Doesn't matter what it is. How can a big company like Samsung let their designers and people who actually give life to the phone leave and go home if the day before they ship them to sprint everything isn't at least CLOSE to 100%

I bought a pocket PC 6700 like 5 years ago, had Naviagtion, and before that I had a phone that had Navigation I believe too. So your problem was the iPhone didn't have, not devices not having GPS

mekeke said:
Funny thing is, I have. I bought the original iphone, and I dont remember that having a GPS.
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Lol, you mean the original iPhone that failed to ship with 3G support at a time when entry level Nokia's had 3G? The iPhone hasn't been the best phone shipped that year for any of its releases. That gentleman said HIGH end.

What would you do in this Hinge-related international problem

So, basically, I am living in israel for a year so I can have a year of grade-free religious studies and not have to worry about my gpa or take tests. The only problem is that Cell phone selection is pretty crappy.
So I went onto ebay and bought a G2 that shipped to my parents place and a buddy of mine was supposed to bring it to me tomorow but I found out today that I have the hinge problem pretty bad. (my dad showed it to me via skype)
I contacted HTC and they said I am still under warranty but they may not even replace the phone if I send it it. I can get my parents to bring it to a local repair shop and get them to just fix the spring, but the only problem with that is that they may not know what they are doing with the g2 as it is a new phone.
Normally it wouldnt be an issue to just send it it to HTC but the next time a friend is coming in from the states is early january and I don't want to have to wait that long for a phone that may not even get repaired...what would you do?
p.s. I also happen to have a friend here in israel, and although he is not proffesionally trained, he has opened up many an HTC phone. can anyone who has done the spring fix themeselves tell me if it is a particularly hard operation to do on the phone? When you are done doing it does the phone show any sign of being opened to the untrained eye? Sorry about the long post

mountain out of a molehill, you are making, my friend.
get the phone and stick with it. Your dad may not realize that this is normal for the phone.
Get the phone over to the promised land now... and then if you are so unhappy with it... fix it yourself using a thread on how to repair your own hinge on this here XDA Forums!
todah!

Thanks for the reply one thing I noticed when he showed me the phone was that it was almost exactly the same problem as this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvHE5lZ1tCs in that the screen is a little wobly after the keyboard is deployed. Is that also normal?
Thanks for the quick response!

Durkbeef said:
Thanks for the reply one thing I noticed when he showed me the phone was that it was almost exactly the same problem as this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvHE5lZ1tCs in that the screen is a little wobly after the keyboard is deployed. Is that also normal?
Thanks for the quick response!
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its normal. Its basically a non issue. I think people just expected it to be rock solid like its predecessor the G1. A lot of people took it way out of context and basically caused such a ruckus over this...
anything with hinges.. is going to be a little free to move around because.. its on hinges!!!
unless the hinges are broken theres no problem with this phone. I mean.. its not for the construction worker or for people who dont have the time or energy to treat it with some respect.. its not exactly a wimp either...
You can always tighten it up a bit to give it more "snap"...
Also.. you will find that your need for the keyboard is not as great as you think... because of the capability for voice commands and the incredible swype and gingerbread keyboards on this --- its so intuitive I rarely need the keyboard anymore.

androidcues said:
its normal. Its basically a non issue. I think people just expected it to be rock solid like its predecessor the G1. A lot of people took it way out of context and basically caused such a ruckus over this...
anything with hinges.. is going to be a little free to move around because.. its on hinges!!!
unless the hinges are broken theres no problem with this phone. I mean.. its not for the construction worker or for people who dont have the time or energy to treat it with some respect.. its not exactly a wimp either...
You can always tighten it up a bit to give it more "snap"...
Also.. you will find that your need for the keyboard is not as great as you think... because of the capability for voice commands and the incredible swype and gingerbread keyboards on this --- its so intuitive I rarely need the keyboard anymore.
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+1 for the keyboard, i only use mine for long text messages or emails, otherwise i use swype/HTC IME keyboard.

I wasn't happy with mine at first but now I don't even notice it.

Agree with androidcues on the fact that people are making waaay more of a big deal about the hinge than it really is.
The things that are shown in the video linked above, or similar ones (like the phone opening while holding it upside down), would never even be noticed by most people. While I wish the hinge design would stay closed a little more "firmly", its an extremely minor criticism. I still quite like the design, and the general build quality of the phone is excellent.

I'm not as concerned about the loose hinge as I am about the fact that it wobbles after the keyboard is deployed

Durkbeef said:
I'm not as concerned about the loose hinge as I am about the fact that it wobbles after the keyboard is deployed
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This again, as stated earlier is really a non-issue if you are normal and take care of your phone. HOWEVER, if you throw your phone around, like to sit on it, or work construction where your phone goes through hell each day, this WOULD be a problem. Personally, i dont understand how some people take such poor care of their phones .

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I'm not as concerned about the loose hinge as I am about the fact that it wobbles after the keyboard is deployed
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The things the guys is doing in the Youtube video you posted, you and every other other normal person will never do in regular use. The way he is pressing the bottom edge of the screen with the keyboard deployed, or bending the top, there is no sane reason for you to ever do those things. Its just a nitpicky point discovered by somebody looking for problems where there aren't really any.
Its a self fulfilling prophecy. Like a hypochondriac surfing WebMD, the more of this stuff you read or watch, the more you are likely to find a "problem". Stop sweating it, and wait until you have it in your hands. If it really feels like its defective, then send it to HTC. You have full warranty for a year from the manufacturer, I believe.

long story short, your phone is fine, a little give in the hinge is normal.
get that beautiful piece of art to you, root it, and live it up my friend

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The things the guys is doing in the Youtube video you posted, you and every other other normal person will never do in regular use. The way he is pressing the bottom edge of the screen with the keyboard deployed, or bending the top, there is no sane reason for you to ever do those things. Its just a nitpicky point discovered by somebody looking for problems where there aren't really any.
Its a self fulfilling prophecy. Like a hypochondriac surfing WebMD, the more of this stuff you read or watch, the more you are likely to find a "problem". Stop sweating it, and wait until you have it in your hands. If it really feels like its defective, then send it to HTC. You have full warranty for a year from the manufacturer, I believe.
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very well said. a perfect summary of the illusion of the issue.

Thanks for the heads up guys, I think the current plan is to get the phone to me and if it really bothers me, I'll give it to my friend for surgery, I remember seeing somewhere you could buy some of those warranty is now void stickers to put on the phone to make it look like you never touched it... Can someone give me a link?

Htc will check your phone and determine whether you have voided the warranty. But...I'm betting you'll be voiding it anyhow. Just send it back the way you found it. Document recovery hboot info etc so you can find the files to flash when and if u need to. But you shouldn't and lmfao at a 'sticker'
vision...

Anyone else not to thrilled with their Atrix?

Maybe its just me but im not as impressed with my Atrix as i thought i would be. Before this i had a Nexus one and it seemed like it was much faster than the Atrix it just seems like its always lagging a little bit, i can really tell it when i unlock it because it will randomly stop before im done swiping my code. (if that makes since, hard to explain) I would use the Finger Print scanner but that took about 6 times to finally unlock the phone. Last but not least the flash light on the back. I use to use it all the time but now it doesn't work half the time. It will start flashing and dim untill it finally goes dead and doesnt work. It has like a yellow tint to it to. (not sure if that's normal)
Also the dock was a waist of 80$ Its not worth but maybe 10$ I cant even sync the phone up to the computer in it.

I am pretty much in love with mine... No lag, no random restarts, no troubles from the flash, zero problems. I am rooted and using GingerBlur 4.5 ATM. Maybe try modding it some.

i think we need a separate sub-forum for unhappy users. that way I dont have to read them
I think the Atrix is GREAT. I have owned it for a few months and at the same time bought and returned the HTC Inspire, SGS2 and the HTC Sensation. It beat them ALL IMHO. especially in battery life, sound quality and loudness, and general ability to run anything I install without a hitch. It is fast but not over-tuned (and lacking torque when it matters). For example, I play a lot of video and onyl the Atrix plays everything without a stutter. OK its camera isnt as good as SGS2, but its good enough. I like its screen the most of all the devices (its the birghtest, especially whites). Its the only device I feel I can rely on for an entire day without being near a battery charger.

Sanbourne said:
Maybe its just me but im not as impressed with my Atrix as i thought i would be. Before this i had a Nexus one and it seemed like it was much faster than the Atrix it just seems like its always lagging a little bit, i can really tell it when i unlock it because it will randomly stop before im done swiping my code. (if that makes since, hard to explain) I would use the Finger Print scanner but that took about 6 times to finally unlock the phone. Last but not least the flash light on the back. I use to use it all the time but now it doesn't work half the time. It will start flashing and dim untill it finally goes dead and doesnt work. It has like a yellow tint to it to. (not sure if that's normal)
Also the dock was a waist of 80$ Its not worth but maybe 10$ I cant even sync the phone up to the computer in it.
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..And the towers are too far apart and it doesn't play the song I want and one of the guys at the att store smells funny. Also Im on XDA but I'm not too sure how to search or ask questions so I guess I will rant.

As has bene documented countless times in this forum, the hardware is being suffocated by the software. That's why everyone anxiously awaits the bypassing of the bootloader, loading custom kernels and ROMs, and why many people are pressuring Motorola to set their phone free. Motorola promises late 2011, but some people have different timelines to take matters into their own hands.

No, mine is fast and has no lag.
Getting faster the more crap I put on it.

@WiredPirate
If your not going to answer my question dont reply to my thread.
Trolls these days, i swear

Sanbourne said:
@WiredPirate
If your not going to answer my question dont reply to my thread.
Trolls these days, i swear
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Exactly what goes through my mind when I see responses like that.
I'm in the same boat as you Sanbourne. Been having a lot of problems with my Atrix and I'm just about ready to get rid of it

I have used many phones, and I mean MANY. The atrix is the only phone that has finally made me say, wow. I don't see the problems your having and maybe the fact that its an assembly line phone you might need to replace it. I run 3d graphics without a hitch. Screen scrolling and unlocking is smooth as butter. Not to mention call quality, speaker, display, etc... It is by far a beast of a device. I have packed almost 40gb of info into this thing, have over 80 apps, including games, productivity and more. I am probably at any given time running 15 or more processes in the background and still, it takes it with no problem. These are phones here, and in a world where we rely less on what they do and more on how they do it and how they look we seem to forget that nothing comes close to what this phone has achieved in a power user standpoint. Keep that all in mind when you think the atrix isn't that great or impressive. Its your personal workhorse, its not a "pretty" phone or a "wow look at that phone!" its a, "nope, leave the laptop, I have everything I need right here"

I'm so tired of people *****ing about there phone. If I don't like it take it back. I love mine....fast as hell....tons of features..
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J-man67 said:
I am pretty much in love with mine... No lag, no random restarts, no troubles from the flash, zero problems. I am rooted and using GingerBlur 4.5 ATM. Maybe try modding it some.
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same here
i m just waiting for the bootloader to be unlocked + / and GB 2.3.4
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i think we need a separate sub-forum for unhappy users. that way I dont have to read them
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agreed

Sanbourne said:
@WiredPirate
If your not going to answer my question dont reply to my thread.
Trolls these days, i swear
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You didn't ask any questions, there is not one single question mark in your whole post. You only posted to complain. This is a public forum if you dont want to hear my reply then you should post in a private forum. Instead you want me to read your lame ass post and copy/paste the information here for you so you dont have to do any work finding the answers yourself? YOU are the troll.
XXtremeAzzKicker said:
I'm so tired of people *****ing about there phone. If I don't like it take it back. I love mine....fast as hell....tons of features..
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+1

skillz9669 said:
I have used many phones, and I mean MANY. The atrix is the only phone that has finally made me say, wow. I don't see the problems your having and maybe the fact that its an assembly line phone you might need to replace it. I run 3d graphics without a hitch. Screen scrolling and unlocking is smooth as butter. Not to mention call quality, speaker, display, etc... It is by far a beast of a device. I have packed almost 40gb of info into this thing, have over 80 apps, including games, productivity and more. I am probably at any given time running 15 or more processes in the background and still, it takes it with no problem. These are phones here, and in a world where we rely less on what they do and more on how they do it and how they look we seem to forget that nothing comes close to what this phone has achieved in a power user standpoint. Keep that all in mind when you think the atrix isn't that great or impressive. Its your personal workhorse, its not a "pretty" phone or a "wow look at that phone!" its a, "nope, leave the laptop, I have everything I need right here"
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Same here and with Citrix Xen Desktop and the lapdock I can run a Windows XP session and use Excel/Word and all my other office software....
I don't understand about the flashlight...although I have read that some apps can burn out the led on a phone. Maybe you should take it in under warranty.
On the keypad..there is a delay if you are in the process of rebooting your phone. Otherwise entering the code is instantaneous. Fingerprint reader may take me two times..

Ive owned a moto backflip and htc aria before getting this phone and in my opinion, it feels like a better version of the motorola backflip
Life is a banquet and death is dessert

WiredPirate said:
You didn't ask any questions, there is not one single question mark in your whole post. You only posted to complain. This is a public forum if you dont want to hear my reply then you should post in a private forum. Instead you want me to read your lame ass post and copy/paste the information here for you so you dont have to do any work finding the answers yourself? YOU are the troll.
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I'm pretty sure you're the troll. If you don't like the content of the thread (or can already tell you won't by reading the title), exercise some god damn willpower and DON'T REPLY. You're wasting everyone's time.

I came from a Vodafone UK Iphone 4 and got back to the states...I picked up the atrix after a BUNCH of research. I am really happy with it. So much I really havent even paid attention to upcoming phones.(thats how I gauge how much i really like a phone). it is kinda like being happy with your woman enough not to notice all the others out there.
The other thing to keep in mind is the version of Android isnt even supporting ALL that this phone can do. So it really is future proof for a while. Gingerblur has made things smooth as can possibly be also.
give it some time bro

OP, I disagree with you. I recently baught a nexus one for my wife, $270 brand new. Although I love its build quality, my Atrix is MUCH faster (with Go launcher EX). And yes, even the Nexus one with its 1 Ghz CPU lags after a day of use.
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dLo GSR said:
I'm pretty sure you're the troll. If you don't like the content of the thread (or can already tell you won't by reading the title), exercise some god damn willpower and DON'T REPLY. You're wasting everyone's time.
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Now you're the troll. If you don't like the content of my post, exercise some god damn willpower and DON'T REPLY. You're wasting everyone's time.

skillz9669 said:
Keep that all in mind when you think the atrix isn't that great or impressive. Its your personal workhorse, its not a "pretty" phone or a "wow look at that phone!" its a, "nope, leave the laptop, I have everything I need right here"
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Exactly what I think about the atrix.
I love it.
Great post skillz. +1

Will agree with OP... It's nice but nothing takes advantage of the dual cores it seems.
Live Wallpaper is laggy (with launcher pro or motoblur), the screen takes forever to turn on, it seems every other previous flagship device is getting updates (It's pissing me off!)...
Next time I'm definitely going with HTC, if I can't find a good HTC I'll opt for samsung, but never again for Motorola. Or AT&T for that fact.