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Serious issues with HD2

Dataconnection!!!
Lack of auto rotation in App's
Lack of App's in general
Continually having to restart
Web Browsing just does not work
Poor response to touch!!
Just to name a few.
I wanted to love this phone. I spent a good month deciding what phone to get and this one seemed to fit the bill on paper. I have now had it for about two months and have wanted to smash it into a million pieces more times than I can remember. It has just got to the point that I'm putting it on ebay this afternoon.
I do think that the major flaw with this phone is Windows. Put Android on it and I am sure it would be amazing. For this reason a new HTC Desire is now on order.
Sorry to put this on here, but I need somewhere to vent my anger.

the only thing i hate about Leo..is lack of apps..and since the made it on wm 6.5..no devs will pay any serious attention at this platform..and android aint any better..
First I was so anti iphone..but now..I'm even thinking about switching..for some good games..most of the part..

Tadgerman said:
Dataconnection!!!
Lack of auto rotation in App's
Lack of App's in general
Continually having to restart
Web Browsing just does not work
Poor response to touch!!
Just to name a few.
I wanted to love this phone. I spent a good month deciding what phone to get and this one seemed to fit the bill on paper. I have now had it for about two months and have wanted to smash it into a million pieces more times than I can remember. It has just got to the point that I'm putting it on ebay this afternoon.
I do think that the major flaw with this phone is Windows. Put Android on it and I am sure it would be amazing. For this reason a new HTC Desire is now on order.
Sorry to put this on here, but I need somewhere to vent my anger.
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im the opposite,I love my hd2.best phone I've ever had.....

Tadgerman said:
Dataconnection!!!
Lack of auto rotation in App's
Lack of App's in general
Continually having to restart
Web Browsing just does not work
Poor response to touch!!
Just to name a few.
I wanted to love this phone. I spent a good month deciding what phone to get and this one seemed to fit the bill on paper. I have now had it for about two months and have wanted to smash it into a million pieces more times than I can remember. It has just got to the point that I'm putting it on ebay this afternoon.
I do think that the major flaw with this phone is Windows. Put Android on it and I am sure it would be amazing. For this reason a new HTC Desire is now on order.
Sorry to put this on here, but I need somewhere to vent my anger.
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blah blah blah....yawn

Tadgerman said:
Dataconnection!!!
Lack of auto rotation in App's
Lack of App's in general
Continually having to restart
Web Browsing just does not work
Poor response to touch!!
Just to name a few.
I wanted to love this phone. I spent a good month deciding what phone to get and this one seemed to fit the bill on paper. I have now had it for about two months and have wanted to smash it into a million pieces more times than I can remember. It has just got to the point that I'm putting it on ebay this afternoon.
I do think that the major flaw with this phone is Windows. Put Android on it and I am sure it would be amazing. For this reason a new HTC Desire is now on order.
Sorry to put this on here, but I need somewhere to vent my anger.
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I agree with you, planning to sell it soon.

anyway as i said the only thing is lack of apps..
compare the appstore to windows market..the second one is so empty..
HD2 is really one of the best phones ever..and its way better then ip..but..I love playing games so mush..and on ip there r some tight *** games..
And on WM 6.5 the only good game out there is zenonia..and it was ported from ip..

Tadgerman said:
Dataconnection!!!
Lack of auto rotation in App's
Lack of App's in general
Continually having to restart
Web Browsing just does not work
Poor response to touch!!
Just to name a few.
I wanted to love this phone. I spent a good month deciding what phone to get and this one seemed to fit the bill on paper. I have now had it for about two months and have wanted to smash it into a million pieces more times than I can remember. It has just got to the point that I'm putting it on ebay this afternoon.
I do think that the major flaw with this phone is Windows. Put Android on it and I am sure it would be amazing. For this reason a new HTC Desire is now on order.
Sorry to put this on here, but I need somewhere to vent my anger.
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Ditto, but i can't afford to sell.

A bad batch?
Tadgerman said:
Dataconnection!!!
Lack of auto rotation in App's
Lack of App's in general
Continually having to restart
Web Browsing just does not work
Poor response to touch!!
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I have both an HD2 and an iPhone. HD2 is my work phone and the iPhone my private/games phone.
I do not have the problems on browsing, dataconnection or poor response on my HD2.
Some apps I installed did create those problems and I had to remove them.
There are lots of apps for the HD2 (though the number is decreasing since Microsoft decided to kill windows mobile) the problem is that there is not as much quality control as Apple imposes for the iphone and they are not easily accesible in a single appstore.
And I prefer the HD2 because it has a better screen

Tadgerman said:
Dataconnection!!!
Lack of auto rotation in App's
Continually having to restart
Web Browsing just does not work
Poor response to touch!!
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All of them are bull****.
There is a perfectly good auto rotation app.
If you need to restart that often, You must have a bad leo. Mine work(ed) fine, untill I broke it.
Web browsing works PERFECTLY. Its a tonne better than the Iphone browsing ever was! And with Wifi - Its just as good as a desktop brower.
Poor touch response? Never had that. It feels just like any other captive screen to me. Probably responds better than all other ones Ive owned.
Lack of apps? Well noone can say thats a lie. I miss the appstore so much. But Ive come to realise PSX on a mobile phone is better than any game the app store ever had.
I do miss little fun apps, that were usless though.
I really think your either a apple fan boy, or have a bad leo.
Get your warrenty to change it, and try to love it again.]
Because All ive had from my phone is love, and even my friends who copied me and got one fell in love (and hell, they are from from exprets on phones so you'd think they would hate winmo)

donwhann said:
im the opposite,I love my hd2.best phone I've ever had.....
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X2... I love mine. I just customized it the way I wanted and its great...IMO...Tj

Tadgerman said:
Dataconnection!!! -explain further/show proof? I have no problem
Lack of auto rotation in App's -as posted, there are numerous rotate apps
Lack of App's in general- If you did you're research on the phone you would know this, this is accross the whole WINMO estate, so not just the HD2, if you want shiny apps, you know where to go.
Continually having to restart- Yes, agreed when i was on stock rom i had to restart a lot but XDA had a lot of dedicatec chefs cooking roms for us where these issues do not happen
Web Browsing just does not work- I think you'll find it does, and perfectly well, give more details of your bad experience please
Poor response to touch!!- again, i fail to see this issue.
Just to name a few.
I wanted to love this phone. I spent a good month deciding what phone to get and this one seemed to fit the bill on paper. I have now had it for about two months and have wanted to smash it into a million pieces more times than I can remember. It has just got to the point that I'm putting it on ebay this afternoon.
I do think that the major flaw with this phone is Windows. Put Android on it and I am sure it would be amazing. For this reason a new HTC Desire is now on order.
Sorry to put this on here, but I need somewhere to vent my anger.
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thats my 2 pence ^^ my updates in bold

I agree with the first for you said, they are major issues, i cant believe HTC didnt see these problems when they released it in the U.S...I'm looking to sell mine and get an N1..

Sell, sell, sell
I agree, a terrible phone.
I'll give you $100 for it.

SMASH LUDDITES not your machine
Luddites were actually cool, unlike you.
Why don't you really get something to complain about, like an iphone.
Tadgerman said:
Dataconnection!!!
Lack of auto rotation in App's
Lack of App's in general
Continually having to restart
Web Browsing just does not work
Poor response to touch!!
Just to name a few.
I wanted to love this phone. I spent a good month deciding what phone to get and this one seemed to fit the bill on paper. I have now had it for about two months and have wanted to smash it into a million pieces more times than I can remember. It has just got to the point that I'm putting it on ebay this afternoon.
I do think that the major flaw with this phone is Windows. Put Android on it and I am sure it would be amazing. For this reason a new HTC Desire is now on order.
Sorry to put this on here, but I need somewhere to vent my anger.
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personally i'd rather buy an iphone as another phone just for games then change my precious for it!!
hd2 is sooo tight!

Dataconnection: no problems at all. Wifi and H/G3 connections work without any problems. Fast and very stable.
Lack of auto rotation in apps: Plenty of apps with auto rotation. If not, you can force auto rotation with a tool.
Lack of apps in general: most USEFUL apps are available. I'm not a hardcore gamer, but I like the games (3D and puzzle) that are on the market. I don't need most of the useless games of the iphone. iphone has more free games, but the price of the phone is much higher so you will pay the apps anyway.
Restart: I have the phone for 3 months now, 2 restarts because of freezes and mainly because of tweaking.
Webbrowsing: best I've ever experienced on a mobile phone. The screen is perfect for this, and everything feels very smooth and works like a laptop. One of the main reasons why I bought this phone.
Poor respons to touch: I really don't understand this point. The screen is very responsive and fast.
I think you have a bad product. I'm a serious user of this phone and I never experienced one of the above mentioned problems.

Flash your phone with one of the custom roms from xda and stop complaining about the HD2 or go and buy an iPhone. There are tons of solutions here on this forum...My HD2 is stable as a rock, if I have a problem I search the forum instead of complaining and telling everybody how bad the HD2 is.

cfds said:
Flash your phone with one of the custom roms from xda and stop complaining about the HD2 or go and buy an iPhone. There are tons of solutions here on this forum...My HD2 is stable as a rock, if I have a problem I search the forum instead of complaining and telling everybody how bad the HD2 is.
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Flashing the rom, voiding the warranty should never be the answer to fix a phone, should be functional from the start..You lose..

KidTech said:
Flashing the rom, voiding the warranty should never be the answer to fix a phone, should be functional from the start..You lose..
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Hahaha, if you are scared of flashing HD2, voiding your warranty temporarily, you'd better not be here:-j.
I only agreed on 1 point, fun and small games, WVGA games for HD2 are not enough and I really miss Tunewiki and Layar. That's it. Best and most beautiful phone I've ever had

KidTech said:
Flashing the rom, voiding the warranty should never be the answer to fix a phone, should be functional from the start..You lose..
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Name a single phone that doens't have problems. Then please salt your hat, and eat it.
Voiding warrenty? Just flash to stock. Tmob havn't said a single thing about mine yet! even when I went into a shop with a clearly un-stock rom.

Finally got rid of my HD2! yay!

The Worst phone I have ever owned save yourself the trouble of buying one.
The pros - Camera, video, and video playback
The cons = Everything else
its hard to even justify it as a smart phone, maybe if I was not on a forced data plan I would think differently, if sold as a dumbphone. Just not enough apps to do anything with , and it takes about 60 tweaks to make it decent
I think the only thing saving it is the bing turn by turn released today, otherwise dont waste your time on this! Get a used android device, or the new sprint evo instead
Winmo 6.5 is dead, the market proves it.
And yes you can scour the net for apps but you wont find many that are any good, over all the phone sucks

Good for you. Good luck.

Thank you for your input on this matter.
Now, who are you?

digitallysick said:
The Worst phone I have ever owned save yourself the trouble of buying one.
The pros - Camera, video, and video playback
The cons = Everything else
its hard to even justify it as a smart phone, maybe if I was not on a forced data plan I would think differently, if sold as a dumbphone. Just not enough apps to do anything with , and it takes about 60 tweaks to make it decent
I think the only thing saving it is the bing turn by turn released today, otherwise dont waste your time on this! Get a used android device, or the new sprint evo instead
Winmo 6.5 is dead, the market proves it.
And yes you can scour the net for apps but you wont find many that are any good, over all the phone sucks
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So you had to make a post to feel self important. News flash no one cares. Go enjoy whatever phone you got. I on the other hand love the HD2 and think its an amazing phone.

I'm a long time user that has had several rooted android phones, an Iphone, Nokia phones, and much more. I feel my review might help some people in deciding

digitallysick said:
I'm a long time user that has had several rooted android phones, an Iphone, Nokia phones, and much more. I feel my review might help some people in deciding
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Well i have to agree i love the phone myself,It all depends on what your using the phone for if you wanted more than carry around one of those mini laptops.Most people that i can tell that dont know how to use something correctly normally dont like the product.compared to a droid n iphone i too have each of them and they dont hold water but thats anothe thread.good luck dude

I don't get it.
I've gone through 2 HD2s, do you guys NOT have freezing issues? or you just don't think there is anything wrong w/ having to reset the phone, deleting messages, not keeping large amounts of music files, having a slow SDHC card come with a high performance device, or anything of that sort?

we all know the problems of hd2 ,so we don't need you to remind us if you don't want to apply more tweaks go and flash custom roms ,otherwise go and buy another shi**Y android phones which has the settings menue of a phone 6 years old and leave us in peace ,
pointless thread please close it

digitallysick said:
The Worst phone I have ever owned save yourself the trouble of buying one.
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And yes you can scour the net for apps but you wont find many that are any good, over all the phone sucks
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Wow, for a senior member I guess you haven't heard of the "INTERNET"...
hoss_n2 said:
we all know the problems of hd2 ,so we don't need you to remind us if you don't want to apply more tweaks go and flash custom roms ,otherwise go and buy another shi**Y android phones which has the settings menue of a phone 6 years old and leave us in peace ,
pointless thread please close it
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+1. This thread should be closed. There are constructive criticisms but this just falls over the edge.
No point opening a thread like this oh and don't let the door hit you on your way out.

N1M1TZ said:
+1. This thread should be closed. There are constructive criticisms but this just falls over the edge.
No point opening a thread like this oh and don't let the door hit you on your way out.
I feel your review will be more one sided and be nothing more than a bashing.
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Well i hated the droid and the iphone is a greedy sorry ass company,and hd2 is an awesome phone and the only problems i have with it is because of my own doing which is my guess their problem to start,if you dont know dont touch it,

Good. Go away.
Threads like this ("No more HD2!") as well as HD2 appreciation threads should be against the rules. They're useless and a waste of space. If people want an actual review, they'll read an actual review. Sorry, but your brief spasm of trollbait material isn't a review.

darkphantom said:
I don't get it.
I've gone through 2 HD2s, do you guys NOT have freezing issues? or you just don't think there is anything wrong w/ having to reset the phone, deleting messages, not keeping large amounts of music files, having a slow SDHC card come with a high performance device, or anything of that sort?
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I don't have any freezing issues. My only issue is T-Mobiles ****ty 3G coverage inside buildings.

speoples20 said:
So you had to make a post to feel self important. News flash no one cares. Go enjoy whatever phone you got. I on the other hand love the HD2 and think its an amazing phone.
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X2 on that...Tj

I am so happy for you! Wow, it couldn't have happened to a better person! You go boy! Yeah, go far, far away!!! [By the way - saying you're a long time user then mentioning iCrap and Android really doesn't help your case. Any 2 year old can use those!]
But the way - Here's the official T-Mobile USA HD2 Update - Direct from T-Mobile!
http://dl.htc.com/ruudownload/t-mobileUS/DeviceDownloads.aspx?pid=leo

Thread Closed. Enjoy your new device

So tired of seeing

All the complaints about the EVO. I for one have no problems with it and I see all these whiners about everything wrong with theirs, take it back it it is bad. Stuff happens and it is not the end of the world.
I've read throught everyone's drama from sd card, to light leakage, screen lifting...etc.
I can say I must have got one that is perfect because not once do I have these issues.
If your phone is defective take it back......I think the majority of folks have not probs and the few that do you just got bunk units.....

No problems here

That is the problem with forums right? You only hear people talk about the bad stuff... there is no reason to post if nothing is going wrong. Do you go to a town hall meeting to say that nothing is wrong with your neighborhood?
75% of the posts are posted by the 5% of the people that have problems.
BTW... I am in the 95% that has little to no issues. Most of my issues are getting used to Android.

I agree +1 for you
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All you have to do, is not read our complaints. You just stated that you read through them all yet nobody forced you to do so. Not reading something that bothers you on a forum devoted to discussing EVRYTHING having to do with a device, is even easier than just returning a phone. Some people have returned their Evos, only to get a 2nd and even a 3rd one, all having some or all of the same issues.
I purchased my phone at RadioShack on a new contract. If I return my phone right now then I'll need to start a new contract somewhere else and keeping my number is not 100% guaranteed since I've already ported it from another carrier. My number of 10 years matters more to me than any one phone. So right now I have a phone that keeps resetting along with the build issues and nobody in the LA area has any in stock to just go switch out.
No it’s not the end of the world and that why I'm not screaming this from my rooftop. I'm here on a forum devoted to this device, talking about this device. How on earth this could upset you or anyone else is beyond me.......If I switch to another device, I for one, DO want to read all the comments about that device; the good and bad.......
EDIT: Okay I could be wrong here but I’m guessing this is about all that silly Android vs. Apple kinda stuff? You know the don’t make Android look bad by talking about a bad experience. Guys! This is a forum to talk about the devices we use. We don’t know the number of bad Evos that are out here and so to say the number is 5% is just a guess based on what? For some of us it’s not a big deal, but for others, they have spent their hard earned dollars on what they hoped was a high end superphone and they have every right to come and “*****” about it having major issues as you have the right to ***** about them *****ing. Is this really the way Android using folks treat one another?!

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BTW... I am in the 95% that has little to no issues. Most of my issues are getting used to Android.
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Haha! +1 on that!

I have not had any complaints but then again if people dont post their complaints how will the rest of the people know that it is an existing issue? example: I had the Hero and the button was peeling, I thought it was me, but it was a defect.
I agree that many people post the same issues over and over and maybe there should be a sticky that shows current defects etc but until then I would not want to see the complaints disappear.
Oh I do have a complaint. Take a photo at size 300kb or higher and send mms. It shrinks it to 10kb to 20kb which is nearly icon size. See if I did not state this it would never get fixed. Apparently this is a Evo only issue and Sprint has gotten several complaints but until more people call and complain about it, it will be pushed under the rug.
Huge screen, 8 megapixel camera and sends itty bitty MMS pictures.

Sorry for raining on your parade, but we paid for the phone too. If we have issues with the device, we're more than welcome to point them out. The only way problems get fixed is when they get pointed out to the companies responsible.

I thought the same thing till my evo started having all the same issues reported. If HTC could make a product without major issues the forums would not be this way. I will never buy a HTC phone again. The screen lifting issue and screen touch issues pushed me over the edge. Your evo is not perfect. All evos have the touch screen issue. Test it out. Some say they dont have the issue but they are holding the phone or have it plugged in. Unplug your phone, set it down and try this without touching the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700612
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/htc-evo-4g-and-droid-incredible-suffering-from-unresponsive-scre/

yea im getting alittle tired of the Anti-Evo trolls myself!!
Ive been using HTC since i had the htc wizard and honestly it seems that everyone is overlooking all the Positives...if your looking for a phone that supposedly is the best ...and i use that term very loosely...go get a iphone..I love the Htc evo and frankly people need to stop hating and overcritizing this seriously awesome phone..i mean **** its been out for less than 2 week lol...

The main issue its people are dumb and would rather ***** than fix their problems. Obviously there are bad units, this is to be expected. If you get one, it sucks, but take the ****ing thing back and get a new one. None in stock? Have sprint order you one.
No need to complain, fix the problem and get on with your lives.
Some people in other threads sound like the engineer from htc is out front dumping salt in their front lawn spelling out screw you. This happens in every launch including the iphone. The genius bars are packed for a reason.
If you want the iphone, great get one. Nice device. This its an android forum don't expect much sympathy nor do most of us care what device you get.

psn1819 said:
Ive been using HTC since i had the htc wizard and honestly it seems that everyone is overlooking all the Positives...if your looking for a phone that supposedly is the best ...and i use that term very loosely...go get a iphone..I love the Htc evo and frankly people need to stop hating and overcritizing this seriously awesome phone..i mean **** its been out for less than 2 week lol...
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Really? So let me get this straight: just because we notice something wrong with the device we paid hundreds of dollars for, we're 'anti-evo trolls'?. That's just moronic.
Why are some people trying so hard to come up with some reason with HTC's mistakes? It's their fault these errors exist, so it's them that need to fix it. They're just another company trying to take money from your pocket. They don't care how loyal they you are to them. In fact, it's even better because they know you'll buy their products no matter how faulty they are.
Also, hardware issues are NOT the only problems with the Evo. People are frequently pointing out software issues with the device, issues that will never be corrected by a simple exchange at the store.
Furthermore, I don't understand why everyone is suggesting an iPhone if one isn't happy with the Evo. You do know there are other Android phone manufacturers, right? Motorola comes to mind.

psn1819 said:
Ive been using HTC since i had the htc wizard and honestly it seems that everyone is overlooking all the Positives...if your looking for a phone that supposedly is the best ...and i use that term very loosely...go get a iphone..I love the Htc evo and frankly people need to stop hating and overcritizing this seriously awesome phone..i mean **** its been out for less than 2 week lol...
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I don't mean to be rude but dude! What do you and all the other happy Evo owners (people having no issues) not understand about the glass touch screen lifting up at the bottom for those of us complaining?! Press your fingers at the bottom of the screen, just below the home key. Try pinching the glas there and now just imagine if you will, that for some of us, the glass is moving up and down and now remains above the frame. Nevermind the light leaking out, I'm talking about the glass moving! And that should be okay with us and we shouldn't come to a Evo forum and talk about it? The logic!

Aridon said:
The main issue its people are dumb and would rather ***** than fix their problems. Obviously there are bad units, this is to be expected. If you get one, it sucks, but take the ****ing thing back and get a new one. None in stock? Have sprint order you one.
No need to complain, fix the problem and get on with your lives.
Some people in other threads sound like the engineer from htc is out front dumping salt in their front lawn spelling out screw you. This happens in every launch including the iphone. The genius bars are packed for a reason.
If you want the iphone, great get one. Nice device. This its an android forum don't expect much sympathy nor do most of us care what device you get.
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Ok smart guy lets see you fix the touch screen issue. I can return my evo 10 times but it wont fix the touch screen issue. Yes I can fix the screen lifting issue but should I have to?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/htc-evo-4g-and-droid-incredible-suffering-from-unresponsive-scre/

Aridon said:
The main issue its people are dumb and would rather ***** than fix their problems. Obviously they ate bad units, this is to be expected. If you get one, it sucks, but take the ****ing thing back and get a new one. None in stock? Have sprint order you one.
No need to complain, fix the problem and get on with your lives.
Some of you sound like the engineer from htc is out front dumping salt in your front lawn spelling out screw you. This happens in every launch including the iphone. The genius bars are packed for a reason.
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I couldnt agree more..its just that i feel like people are buying the evo and phones like it because its shiny and has bright gleeming colors lol..not thinking about everyday use and the fundamentals of these phones...its a phone meant to challenge us and sadly people are not preapred to deal with this lol..but thats my opinion

First of all...my EVO is working 100% correctly. Thank god.
Second i believe that the people with issues have the right to say whats going on with their phones, like stated before...they paid for something that should work right out the box. I had the same issue with an old HD2 that was a POS out the box, yet everyone else was enjoying their phone. With that being said I think what should be done is XDA should have a section in the forums labeled "Complaints & Issues" so they can all be filtered in there. Like that if we ever need to find an issue, we know where to look AND it doesn't clutter the general area with people ranting about their "light leakage" problems...

psn1819 said:
I couldnt agree more..its just that i feel like people are buying the evo and phones like it because its shiny and has bright gleeming colors lol..not thinking about everyday use and the fundamentals of these phones...its a phone meant to challenge us and sadly people are not preapred to deal with this lol..but thats my opinion
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Lol this makes no sense. Having screen lifting and touch screen issues are challenges that we should be prepared to deal with? Are you serious?

shep211 said:
I thought the same thing till my evo started having all the same issues reported. If HTC could make a product without major issues the forums would not be this way. I will never buy a HTC phone again. The screen lifting issue and screen touch issues pushed me over the edge. Your evo is not perfect. All evos have the touch screen issue. Test it out. Some say they dont have the issue but they are holding the phone or have it plugged in. Unplug your phone, set it down and try this without touching the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700612
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/htc-evo-4g-and-droid-incredible-suffering-from-unresponsive-scre/
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I don't have this issue.

psn1819 said:
I couldnt agree more..its just that i feel like people are buying the evo and phones like it because its shiny and has bright gleeming colors lol..not thinking about everyday use and the fundamentals of these phones...its a phone meant to challenge us and sadly people are not preapred to deal with this lol..but thats my opinion
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No. Just stop. We don't pay hundreds of dollars to be 'challenged' by the device. We pay for the damned device to WORK! HTC is responsible for making sure the screen doesn't fall off the frame, the touch sensor isn't laggy, and that the wifi reception doesn't suck ass. Are you fixing the problems? No, so you have no right to say the phone is meant to challenge us.
Do you think we're brain dead idiots? We aren't people to be talked down to by people who think severe hardware and software issues are no big deal. We know why we're buying the Evo, and these issues weren't part of it. As a result, we're demanding they be fixed.
By your logic, I suppose you would pay five hundred dollars for an HTC Rubix Cube only because it 'challenges you'.

I'm so tired of posts like these. "I like mine. If someone other than me doesn't like theirs then there must be something wrong with them."

When did it become OK to release a phone that isnt ready for prime time?

Evo had problems, instinct had LOTS of problems, hell my touch pro 2 NEVER ran 100% right.
Now here I am with an Epic, where the gps doesnt work unless I reboot the phone, uploading a 1.2 mb picture takes entirely too long on 3g as well as the phone studders like heck while it's SLOWLY uploading AND to top it all off - it's looking for a signal 50% or more of the time that I'm in a FULL SIGNAL area.
My question is this:
When did this become acceptable in our society? Why are people not being fired over this?????
What MOD EDIT tester didn't notice that 3g uploads are capped? And did they NEVER EVEN TRY TO USE THE GPS after a night or day of the phone being on?
Coming from the touch pro 2 and touch diamond I was SO READY for the Epic to ROCK MY WORLD.
The sad thing is IT WOULD HAVE if I didn't have to deal with these little annoying issues.
Turning airplane mode on and off everyday so my battery will last 12 hours..which still isnt that good.. Rebooting the phone before I plan to use it for ANYTHING navigation related.
What a sour taste I have in my mouth. I know apologists will say "it hasn't even been out a month" well guess what, I work in IT and if I rolled out something new and it didn't work CORRECTLY on the first day, someone is getting in trouble, if I go home before it's fixed, I get fired.
It should be the same thing with the wireless phone industry.
/rant off.

as much as i enjoy my epic i must agree with you, but its not just the phone industry, hell look at video games took ms years to finally get the rrod under control, sony had its ylod problems too....

Dear god, I am sick and tired of seeing these stupid rants everyday.
Every phone is going to have a problem with it, nothing is perfect.
Complaining about it isn't going to magically make it all better.
If your having that many problems with it, then why not return it?
Mods, please make a rant Forum.

mekeke said:
Dear god, I am sick and tired of seeing these stupid rants everyday.
Every phone is going to have a problem with it, nothing is perfect.
Complaining about it isn't going to magically make it all better.
If your having that many problems with it, then why not return it?
Mods, please make a rant Forum.
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That's a great question and the answer is......because I have no alternative device like this with a keyboard.
Your attitude of "every phone is going to have a problem with it" is exactly WHY this whole situation exists in the first place. People are just OK with this type of thing happening.
Also - it's not just me having problems, the whole internet is FULL of epic owners with the same ****ty issues. All I'm saying is that EVERYTIME a phone is rolled out and **** DOESNT WORK - someone should be losing his or her job BECAUSE HE OR SHE DIDNT DO THEIR JOB!!

J3ff said:
That's a great question and the answer is......because I have no alternative device like this with a keyboard.
Your attitude of "every phone is going to have a problem with it" is exactly WHY this whole situation exists in the first place. People are just OK with this type of thing happening.
Also - it's not just me having problems, the whole internet is FULL of epic owners with the same ****ty issues. All I'm saying is that EVERYTIME a phone is rolled out and **** DOESNT WORK - someone should be losing his or her job BECAUSE HE OR SHE DIDNT DO THEIR JOB!!
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People can only do so much with the limited resources they have.
I am guessing your attitude of a phone is that is has to be perfect.
There is never going to be a phone that is perfect.
Sure, there are problems with this phone, dont you think samsung already knows about this and is trying to fix this?

I'm happy with the Epic apart from the fact it pulls power from the battery while plugged in causing it to take forever to charge if you using it heavily.
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mekeke said:
People can only do so much with the limited resources they have.
I am guessing your attitude of a phone is that is has to be perfect.
There is never going to be a phone that is perfect.
Sure, there are problems with this phone, dont you think samsung already knows about this and is trying to fix this?
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According to a sprint admin on the board they had no idea about this till we started reporting it. Why would samsung release a phone with horrible battery life and a crippled GPS if they knew about it? How did sprint testing NOT REALIZE that 3g doesn't go any faster then 150k.
No a phone doesn't have to be perfect, but these issues are DETRIMENTAL to how the phone works.
What's funny is while I was at the store they had plenty of Epics and not one EVO. I'm sitting there wondering why. I guess I know why now.

While I can be a LOT more patient with stuff, and thats because I am too trusting... I have been lately getting more and more aware that some things were overlooked with this phone.
I'm still hoping though, but I got screwed with the Instinct, from.. wait for it, Samsung, because that was supposed to be the first phone to challenge the iPhone and NOTHING, i mean NOTHING ever came out for it. That phone required reboot a year after it came out for some of the dumb issues, cause it wasn't ever updated, and then it was just flat out not really supported with apps like it was supposed to.
Then I got the Pre (diff company I know) but that was the next iPhone killer, and no apps (besides independent minor developing) for 6 months, while Palm and Sprint sat on their asses deciding to not allow developers to work on the Pre for that time for no reason. Result was after a good launch, people got tired and new phones started coming in.
Now this phone has only been out less than 3 weeks and already got an update, which feels to me that it did help the battery some while using 3G, but I gotta test it out some more. I'll be patient with this one, but it's the last device I get and hang on to if it has certain issues from the get go, because you're right j3ff, I think that all the time too, that people that are cool with a product that is mediocre from the get go is the reason why the US has so many crappy things out before they should be, it's also why Europe and Asia are 3 - 5 years ahead in diff tech areas (devices or services).

J3ff said:
What's funny is while I was at the store they had plenty of Epics and not one EVO. I'm sitting there wondering why. I guess I know why now.
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The popularity of the evo has absolutely nothing to do with the issues that the epic has.

J3ff said:
According to a sprint admin on the board they had no idea about this till we started reporting it. Why would samsung release a phone with horrible battery life and a crippled GPS if they knew about it? How did sprint testing NOT REALIZE that 3g doesn't go any faster then 150k.
No a phone doesn't have to be perfect, but these issues are DETRIMENTAL to how the phone works.
What's funny is while I was at the store they had plenty of Epics and not one EVO. I'm sitting there wondering why. I guess I know why now.
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Dear god, why don't you call Samsung up and ask them then?
I have to admit, my phone does have some problems with it.
But I deal with them. By far this is one of the best phones I've ever had.

Every one who buys the epic right aways does beta testing for them. They know it. This is real world testing for them. Just have to deal with it. Yeah it sucks
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Yea I have to agree that the Evo being constantly sold out has nothing to do with the Epic.. What it is, is that Samsung makes the HTC Evo screens. And with them having other devices to make screens for, they only have so many to go around extra for the Evo, especially since its a slightly bigger than normal screen. This means, whenever Samsung decides to toss some screens HTCs way, they do, otherwise their own devices are a priority. And since Samsung makes the Epic AND the S-AMOLED screens there's no shortage of screens for their own device, hence a lot more Epics on hand. I am surprised that HTC didn't go for the S-Amoled screen too, I think that would have turned the tide for some owners.

mekeke said:
Dear god, why don't you call Samsung up and ask them then?
I have to admit, my phone does have some problems with it.
But I deal with them. By far this is one of the best phones I've ever had.
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Dear god, you are the problem, you deal with them and pay major amounts of MONEY and you're just OK with that.
Sure it's a good phone, but phones up to THREE OR FOUR years OLDER both upload FASTER then the epic and have a full fledged working gps.
Also - I did call samsung and sprint, just like I hope all others will, there is NO REASON to just lay down and "dont worry" about major flaws in a flagship device.

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Dear god, you are the problem, you deal with them and pay major amounts of MONEY and you're just OK with that.
Sure it's a good phone, but phones up to THREE OR FOUR years OLDER both upload FASTER then the epic and have a full fledged working gps.
Also - I did call samsung and sprint, just like I hope all others will, there is NO REASON to just lay down and "dont worry" about major flaws in a flagship device.
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1: I do not pay major amounts of money, I got my Epic as a replacement for my broken HTC Evo.
2:I do not recall the older phones having a GPS four years ago.
Your logic is flawed.

This topic largely turned into what I expected it to...
Yes, Americans are completely willing to deal with broken crap as long as they can tie some fanboy fervor to it. Seriously, all you people in here berating OP here because he doesn't really LIKE the fact that he pays top dollar to beta test things need to grow the hell up. There was a topic like this on the Sprint forums where one particular poster was defending the 150kbps upload cap because he claims to never need to upload anything. It doesn't matter if YOU care about the issue, all that matters is that its there and that it happens to be a couple of issues that should not make it out of beta testing.
Geez, I thought the Xbox 360 was the end of this acceptance of unacceptably broken crap.

mekeke said:
2:I do not recall the older phones having a GPS four years ago.
Your logic is flawed.
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Then you haven't been in the high end phone game for 4 years.

J3ff said:
Then you haven't been in the high end phone game for 4 years.
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Funny thing is, I have. I bought the original iphone, and I dont remember that having a GPS.

usfslacker said:
Yes, Americans are completely willing to deal with broken crap as long as they can tie some fanboy fervor to it. Seriously, all you people in here berating OP here because he doesn't really LIKE the fact that he pays top dollar to beta test things need to grow the hell up. There was a topic like this on the Sprint forums where one particular poster was defending the 150kbps upload cap because he claims to never need to upload anything. It doesn't matter if YOU care about the issue, all that matters is that its there and that it happens to be a couple of issues that should not make it out of beta testing.
Geez, I thought the Xbox 360 was the end of this acceptance of unacceptably broken crap.
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It really is crazy to me. Like i said at my job, if stuff doesn't work I don't go home, EVER. Doesn't matter what it is. How can a big company like Samsung let their designers and people who actually give life to the phone leave and go home if the day before they ship them to sprint everything isn't at least CLOSE to 100%

I bought a pocket PC 6700 like 5 years ago, had Naviagtion, and before that I had a phone that had Navigation I believe too. So your problem was the iPhone didn't have, not devices not having GPS

mekeke said:
Funny thing is, I have. I bought the original iphone, and I dont remember that having a GPS.
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Lol, you mean the original iPhone that failed to ship with 3G support at a time when entry level Nokia's had 3G? The iPhone hasn't been the best phone shipped that year for any of its releases. That gentleman said HIGH end.

Enough Already, Stop Flashing Your Phones.

I feel that everyone flashing their phones is making the phone manufactures upset. They go to all the trouble and make a nice stable, mostly usable pieces of software and you go and tear it apart and make something else.
I can imagine someone sitting at their desk now crying into their hankies saying "why, oh why don't they like my OS?
People work very hard and put their blood, sweat and tear into a project and you go and dismiss it like it's got cooties.
This is not right. Why not stay with what the cell phone gods decided we should be using? OK, fine, be that way. Never mind that different countries get different versions of the software at different times. Never mind that they work sometimes better, sometimes worse than other countries version of the OS. Never mind that some phones die when the upgraded OS gets installed onto the phone, this does not matter, it's still not right.
You bought a phone, live with the OS. I say "Stop flashing now".
Ian

Sounds like you would be happier with an iphone...
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xda members are only making the firmware better, like it should be, not like samsung, buggy and other wierd things

/s?
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go and buy an iphone

Hehe ^^^^^^
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I guess you don't see a little tongue in cheek when you see it.

I think the OP is being sarcastic/ironic

I'm not sure if you're being serious or if you're joking... If you're joking, then, you got me.
If you're serious, then that's absolutely rediculous. If I purchase a $500 piece of hardware, I'm going to damn well do whatever I'd like to it. I'm not leaving it up the the manufacturers to decide what software I use on my phone. (Especially Samsung - TouchWiz? Social Hub? Really now?)
If I void the warranty or otherwise render my phone unusable, that's ultimately my fault. But I'd rather bring it upon myself to modify ROMs to my liking rather than blindly allowing a manufacturer to dictate what software I use, what updates should be installed, etc.
tl;dr: If I buy a phone, it's my phone, no one elses.
EDIT: Guess you were joking... I shouldn't have typed out all that.

LOL someone registers and posts on XDA saying don't mod ROFLMAO
Just in case the Op is serious. XDA is founded on modding and hacking you may need to register with a different forum.

w98seeng said:
I feel that everyone flashing their phones is making the phone manufactures upset. They go to all the trouble and make a nice stable, mostly usable pieces of software and you go and tear it apart and make something else.
I can imagine someone sitting at their desk now crying into their hankies saying "why, oh why don't they like my OS?
People work very hard and put their blood, sweat and tear into a project and you go and dismiss it like it's got cooties.
This is not right. Why not stay with what the cell phone gods decided we should be using? OK, fine, be that way. Never mind that different countries get different versions of the software at different times. Never mind that they work sometimes better, sometimes worse than other countries version of the OS. Never mind that some phones die when the upgraded OS gets installed onto the phone, this does not matter, it's still not right.
You bought a phone, live with the OS. I say "Stop flashing now".
Ian
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You gotta be kidding!
In a way I agree with you that we should respect the hardworking from Samsung engineers. But the offical ROMs were really laggy and with bugs.
Laggy, no need to explain, everyone suffers from it.
Bugs, for example there are lots of reports about Social Hub not working with Froyo. Difficulty connect to Kies! These are all the OFFICAL FUNCTIONs straight from Samsung!
XDA's ROM cooks make SGS a LOT better than just stuck with offical ROM. Don't you think we should be thankful for their hardworking, sweats, .... ?
Okay, if Samsung in the beginning made something like Froyo 2.2.1, I might stick with it. But that was only a "IF".
Farewell!

Dont feed the troll guys.

Tehpriest said:
LOL someone registers and posts on XDA saying don't mod ROFLMAO
Just in case the Op is serious. XDA is founded on modding and hacking you may need to register with a different forum.
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HAHA LOL indeed!

w98seeng said:
I feel that everyone flashing their phones is making the phone manufactures upset. They go to all the trouble and make a nice stable, mostly usable pieces of software and you go and tear it apart and make something else.
I can imagine someone sitting at their desk now crying into their hankies saying "why, oh why don't they like my OS?
People work very hard and put their blood, sweat and tear into a project and you go and dismiss it like it's got cooties.
This is not right. Why not stay with what the cell phone gods decided we should be using? OK, fine, be that way. Never mind that different countries get different versions of the software at different times. Never mind that they work sometimes better, sometimes worse than other countries version of the OS. Never mind that some phones die when the upgraded OS gets installed onto the phone, this does not matter, it's still not right.
You bought a phone, live with the OS. I say "Stop flashing now".
Ian
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And what freaking planet do you live on? Every piece of equipment manufactured these days is altered by the end user in one way or another. Do you drive a box standard car? change the wallpaper on your home pc/ laptop, redecorate a brand new house or add a conservatory? all this is called progress and modification to the end users taste or preference.
Sorry mate but your just talking a pile of **** and it sounds like you should indeed have a iphone enjoy your box standard Galaxy S and remember not to add any new wallpapers or ringtones as thats not what God intended....

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I guess you don't see a little tongue in cheek when you see it.
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it's more than obvious. it looks like there are a lot of brainless flashers around here

behemot24 said:
it's more than obvious. it looks like there are a lot of brainless flashers around here
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I will agree with that LOL you can recognise them by the post title saying "(insert hardware/firmware/software) has bricked/broken/changed my phone" when all along it was what THEY did that caused it.

yes, my android is a pervert, it cannot stop flashing

w98seeng said:
I guess you don't see a little tongue in cheek when you see it.
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Maybe it's a Canadian thing

Tehpriest said:
I will agree with that LOL you can recognise them by the post title saying "(insert hardware/firmware/software) has bricked/broken/changed my phone" when all along it was what THEY did that caused it.
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A more fool-proof way of detecting the fools is picking out the endless stream of OP's looking for help with their "bricked" phone. Literally one after the other of original threads talking about the SAME thing. Posted right after the pinned topics on how to solve most of these issues.
I know that w98seeng was joking but maybe he's on to something

I just flashed to 2.2.1, through registry hack,
man its good,
Can`t speak about GPS, but there`s no lagging in my phone,
I highly recommend to anyone not to use any custom firmwares anymore or even lagfixes,
probably they serve only for useless benchmarking, adding troubles to troubles,
Maybe Samsung finally realised how to make the phone work, and maybe Nexus S experience helped a bit..