Should I trade my transformer for a xoom? - Eee Pad Transformer General

I know someone who wants to do this trade. I know the xoom costs more but should I do it? Waddya think?
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Trade it. Sell the xoom for $500 then buy a tf again and pocket the $100

^ Damn he's good. Do it my son.

Yes, do the trade for resale thing, but don't do it based on the tablets alone. I had a Xoom before my TF, and I can't think of a single advantage of the Xoom. The TF blows it away in just about every category.
Oh, wait: the Xoom is a little narrower. There, that's all I can think of.

wynand32 said:
I had a Xoom before my TF, and I can't think of a single advantage of the Xoom.
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Well, the Xoom has a barometer, and ... uh ... um ... that's it, I'm stumped.

dfin13 said:
Well, the Xoom has a barometer, and ... uh ... um ... that's it, I'm stumped.
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A barometer ? Oo
jateelover , yes definitely trade it, if you are sure that the device is fully functional, was never dropped, etc.

Yeah it predicts stormy weather. Great for predicting your tears when the person next to you has a tablet with a functional MicroSD slot for $400.00 when your XOOM costs $600.00.

Seriously though the thing letting the TF down is the lousy QC and rushed software/firmware (possibly hardware but nothing concrete on that front). Hopefully most of the issues will be fixed but it's totally unnaceptable to be guinea pigs whilst Asus tries to get it's house in order. I'd rather them have waited a couple of months and get it right to be honest.

I showed my friend my tf and he said he had just gotten a xoom, then I told him the specs, the features and the price and his response was "damn I guess I should have waited a little while".

Ya I might trade and use the zoom until Asus starts getting their act together with qc. The one I have now is good except for light bleed though...thanks for the input...
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deadman3000 said:
Seriously though the thing letting the TF down is the lousy QC and rushed software/firmware (possibly hardware but nothing concrete on that front). Hopefully most of the issues will be fixed but it's totally unnaceptable to be guinea pigs whilst Asus tries to get it's house in order. I'd rather them have waited a couple of months and get it right to be honest.
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In the ****ed up world we live in, Microsoft get aplauded for rushing out the badly broken Xbox, Sony got hauled over the coals for making a proper console that worked.
Now it seems the opposite should apply, and people want companies to wait again...
Hmmm..... OK then......

I don't know about this trade...yeah sure you might be able to sell it, buy a new TF and pocket some cash but is that worth the hassle?
Call me crazy but i just don't like the Xoom as much as the TF. It's not just the fact that the TF is more functional but I actually think it looks cooler as well.
I vote keep your TF - get your friend to sell his one to someone else and buy his own. Then you can be TF buddies.

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Stood next to a dude who also thought of getting a Xoom...

...and after discussing about the advantages and disadvantages of the Xoom, we finally left the store with the same thought of waiting for the Samsung 10.1 tablet.
What's the point of this thread????....
Patience is virtue.
I guess you don't mind the lack of an SD card slot...
Oh, wait.
Nor external ports...
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You made the right choice!
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Thanks for sharing
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I guess you don't mind the lack of an SD card slot...
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There is a .999999% that it may have the SD card slot. I am willing to wait until March 22 to find out.
Earthbrain said:
There is a .999999% that it may have the SD card slot. I am willing to wait until March 22 to find out.
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Lol not even 1% chance?
Earthbrain said:
...and after discussing about the advantages and disadvantages of the Xoom, we finally left the store with the same thought of waiting for the Samsung 10.1 tablet.
What's the point of this thread????....
Patience is virtue.
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Assuming there is sufficient advantage to waiting.
Waiting by itself doesn't qualify having patience. Sometimes it means you don't understand the choice. The only real "disadvantage" in buying the Xoom now is the price. What about the Samsung tablet appeals to you more? Or was this purely about the Xoom?
Trav29 said:
Lol not even 1% chance?
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Ha, was laughing at that too.
Am I missing something. What on earth makes the tablet by Samsung any better than one by motorola unless you are a homunculus incapable of holding a 1.6lb device but can hold a 1.3?
In all seriousness though, besides aestethics and brand preference I don't see the draw. I am seriously looking googling to try and find the big deal. Moto is a proven OEM in the Android world, and the XOOM is wide open and soon to be 4G capable. I see that the 10.1 is supposed to be HSPA 21+mbps so I am assuming T-Mo's fake 4G?
It seems it has a better rear camera, higher resolution video, optional capacities, and a proximity sensor(did they forget this isn't a phone) in the THINGS THE XOOM DON'T category.
It has a single instead of dual led flash, no new data tech, no HDMI, no barometer(hmmm someone tell me wtf a barometer is for) no external memory(which I will be using to put music on my tablet when I get a deal on a 32gb microsd, or so I tell myself), no ambient light sensor(I don't like autobrightness but I see the utility) in the THINGS THE XOOM DOES category.
Options are good but I don't get the point of this pointless thread .
Earthbrain said:
There is a .999999% that it may have the SD card slot. I am willing to wait until March 22 to find out.
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It won't have an SD slot or a normal micro USB port, have fun!
setite said:
Options are good but I don't get the point of this pointless thread .
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probably hard to locate find the Galaxy Tab forum??
theahlenius said:
Assuming there is sufficient advantage to waiting.
Waiting by itself doesn't qualify having patience. Sometimes it means you don't understand the choice. The only real "disadvantage" in buying the Xoom now is the price. What about the Samsung tablet appeals to you more? Or was this purely about the Xoom?
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I did not mention in my first post that I also bought the Xoom at Motorola for 25% off and I already have the UPS tracking number and it will be delivered this coming Monday. My bank statement has shown that the charge is complete.
So the price is not really the issue here.
I will not open my Xoom on Monday when I received it but will wait for March 22 to decide.
Biggest advantages of the Samsung tablet are the following:
1. Lighter weight
2. Most likely a better screen (brighter/better contrast). You look at the screen 100% of the time when you use a tablet (unless you just listen to music) so this is very important.
Big disadvantage
1. May not be rootable
Like I mentioned, you don't seem to understand the choice if those are your only disadvantages. I get that you're waiting, I just find your attitude funny.
Earthbrain said:
There is a .999999% that it may have the SD card slot. I am willing to wait until March 22 to find out.
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Your a better man than me. Me, personally I will never buy another samsung product. What shortcomings does the Xoom have that the 10.1 won't have? From what I have read the 10.1 is inferior spec wise to the Xoom althoigh they are very close.
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Am I missing something. What on earth makes the tablet by Samsung any better than one by motorola unless you are a homunculus incapable of holding a 1.6lb device but can hold a 1.3?
In all seriousness though, besides aestethics and brand preference I don't see the draw. I am seriously looking googling to try and find the big deal. Moto is a proven OEM in the Android world, and the XOOM is wide open and soon to be 4G capable. I see that the 10.1 is supposed to be HSPA 21+mbps so I am assuming T-Mo's fake 4G?
It seems it has a better rear camera, higher resolution video, optional capacities, and a proximity sensor(did they forget this isn't a phone) in the THINGS THE XOOM DON'T category.
It has a single instead of dual led flash, no new data tech, no HDMI, no barometer(hmmm someone tell me wtf a barometer is for) no external memory(which I will be using to put music on my tablet when I get a deal on a 32gb microsd, or so I tell myself), no ambient light sensor(I don't like autobrightness but I see the utility) in the THINGS THE XOOM DOES category.
Options are good but I don't get the point of this pointless thread .
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Thats exactly what I was thinking plus you left one out. Samsung will never update it they will just have another come out in four months and make you pay for that. I will never buy samsung ever. Horrible company that forces a ****ty skin on its users and takes away uogrades making promises and never coming through, they care for nothing more than your money and i will leave you.
Samsung updated their phones in Europe
I am also waiting that March 22, but mainly for the 8.9" version.
Hope it will have better screen and more.
angermeans said:
Thats exactly what I was thinking plus you left one out. Samsung will never update it they will just have another come out in four months and make you pay for that. I will never buy samsung ever. Horrible company that forces a ****ty skin on its users and takes away uogrades making promises and never coming through, they care for nothing more than your money and i will leave you.
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[email protected] thread... First there were Apple fanboys, then phandroids now people are arguing and defending different android tablets... Motoroloids? Phansungs? When will it end?!! Who cares? And let's be honest, since when did arguing on the internet ever change someones stance on an issue? Get over it.
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barometer(hmmm someone tell me wtf a barometer is for)
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If you load Weatherbug you will see the barometer actually being used. Not very interesting right now unless you are a weather addict like me.
keitht said:
If you load Weatherbug you will see the barometer actually being used. Not very interesting right now unless you are a weather addict like me.
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What part. I couldn't figure out where it is.
angermeans said:
Thats exactly what I was thinking plus you left one out. Samsung will never update it they will just have another come out in four months and make you pay for that. I will never buy samsung ever. Horrible company that forces a ****ty skin on its users and takes away uogrades making promises and never coming through, they care for nothing more than your money and i will leave you.
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Thanks for that. I went into that post thinking about that point but I got sidetracked. It is fair to point out that Samsung has let all the initial Galaxy Tab owners twist in the wind with no word of whether they will ever see an update.
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What part. I couldn't figure out where it is.
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When you load Weatherbug you will see "My Device Stats" which shows the Barometer reading from your Xoom.
Screen attached.

A week without the TF

So I took up on Asus's offer to replace my TF and dock to figure out the battery draining issue. Its been a week without the device and surprisingly I am not facing any withdrawal symptoms as I feared. I have been doing all the stuff I did, now on my Thunderbolt. Only thing I am missing is the ebooks, but not a big deal since I read them off and on anyway
okay? we all know that you can do the same thing on your tablet... on your phone and vice versa. it's just a matter of a bigger screen
well if i would have to read my ebooks/magazines on my htc desire i would just buy them in real. screen size is way to small to read any longer stuff.
tornadog said:
So I took up on Asus's offer to replace my TF and dock to figure out the battery draining issue. Its been a week without the device and surprisingly I am not facing any withdrawal symptoms as I feared. I have been doing all the stuff I did, now on my Thunderbolt. Only thing I am missing is the ebooks, but not a big deal since I read them off and on anyway
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Just by posting this you secretly admit that you are missing the tab Why else would you roam the TF forums now haha! Not that there's anything wrong with that! Just never mention it to your partner... If I told my wifey that I didn't really need the tab she'd make me sell it LOL!
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Just by posting this you secretly admit that you are missing the tab Why else would you roam the TF forums now haha! Not that there's anything wrong with that! Just never mention it to your partner... If I told my wifey that I didn't really need the tab she'd make me sell it LOL!
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You may be right
tornadog said:
So I took up on Asus's offer to replace my TF and dock to figure out the battery draining issue. Its been a week without the device and surprisingly I am not facing any withdrawal symptoms as I feared.
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Welcome to adulthood! Once you realize that they are just things then you will realize a lot more important things as well.
Digiguest said:
Welcome to adulthood! Once you realize that they are just things then you will realize a lot more important things as well.
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+1 on that! Since we had a baby my priorities shifted although my interest remained the same
And I have to say: by making this statement, Mr. OP, you put us all at risk. Do not EVER say that our toys... er, tools... can be lived without. These are vital to our very existence, and should NEVER be questioned this way.
I say you should be stoned.
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I just shipped mine off to RMA due to a bent bezel and the power/volume buttons not working properly. I posted here about it before.
The mail lady said it should get to Texas by Saturday. What is the usual turnaround time for the RMA group?

Just ordered a transformer but .........

Im kinda of thinking it is a miatake now because some ppl on here bash it so much! Now coming from ipad to xoom to this is it as bad as ppl on xda make out?
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Love mine! It actually is BETTER than I thought it would be!
you have a return window...
try it out and be your own judge.
what you gonna do? wait for the package and not open it?
Tip of the day... Think for yourself.
The majority of people bashing the TF bash their cell phones, their tvs, their computers and just about every other expensive piece of hardware they invest in because it doesn't wipe their ass and make their morning coffee.
I love mine more than anything else i own, other than my Camaro of course lol. I just found an app called sixaxis controller that lets me use a ps3 controller to play games and even navigate the launcher via bluetooth!
I just got mine and am happy with it.
I "bash" mine because it does have problems, but other than those I love the device. The only real problem that mattered to me was when it decided it didn't want to charge anymore.
All devices have problems. My ipad2 had screen bleed and restricted. The transformer has some screen bleed but is awesome. Be sure to pick up a tablet keyboard like thumb keyboard or swiftkeyX. Really man typing a breeze while holding the tablet.
Asus Transformer 3.2 pwnd
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It's a great device and very capable. If you don't get the QC issues the device is great and I think you'll enjoy it.
For most of the QC issues you'll know right from the beginning. For some like dying speakers nobody can really tell when that will occur. You probably shouldn't consider creaking a defect either, keep that in mind.
The majority of the people here that bash the device probably do so due the QC, not the actual device itself. It's very capable and well designed, it's just the execution was somewhat poor and the QC suffered as a result.
So you should just try it out like another poster said. You might find it so good that you don't want to return it.
Yeh i think that is probaly best, has.there been many qc issues?
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starplaya93 said:
Tip of the day... Think for yourself.
The majority of people bashing the TF bash their cell phones, their tvs, their computers and just about every other expensive piece of hardware they invest in because it doesn't wipe their ass and make their morning coffee.
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Wow!!! You just nailed!!!!
The new generation are people like a crying whining baby with no patience. They just want everything to work instantly, perfectly and bugs fixed immediately.
Is the transformer perfect? Nope, but I can live with it and enjoy what I have instead of complaining about it everyday.
lightbleed? is there, not affecting my use whatsoever.
batter drain? fixed already. I don't have battery issue anymore. Lost about 2% overnight.
keyboard browser lag? Annoying, but I am patiently waiting for a fix. it's useable, but ya, people can't wait a second these days. They will be so angry and wanna throw the tablet against the wall or keep posting Epic fail in every asus update thread.
netflix? don't care at all. i can root it if I really want it.
flash video lag? fixed already.
Lack of apps? I beleive it will get better. There werent many apps when i had my iphone1.
Circle mouse? I actually like it more than the arrow cursor. People made it such a big deal.
Did I miss anything that people were bashing? Seriously, just try to enjoy it and have a little patience.
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For those who considering XOOM better build? Think again....
Google Lots of XOOM got creaks/cracks of the back, loose in buttons and back plastic side, loose of corners, bad view angles etc....
We see all bad things about Transformers since we are looking for it...But XOOM got all same **** guys...
Loving my transformer. An awesome platform for tinkering too. I have mine dual booting ubuntu/android via lilstevie's work.
It seems to human nature to dwell on the bad things!
I have had my Transformer & dock for about a week now and don't know what all the fuss has been about it is the best thing i have bought for a while. Just the whole thing with the tab & dock when you want it or to top up battery is a win win!
If you have a Costco membership, you can buy it online, use it for up to 90 days and return it to a local store (if you have issues)
I don't condone returning something if its not broke or just cause something better came out!
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hiya1987 said:
Im kinda of thinking it is a miatake now because some ppl on here bash it so much! Now coming from ipad to xoom to this is it as bad as ppl on xda make out?
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I bought me an Acer Iconia A500, but could never shake the want for the keyboard dock.
I bought my TF last week, and haven't look back.
Solid device.
myamex said:
Did I miss anything that people were bashing? Seriously, just try to enjoy it and have a little patience.
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As for me, I got touch screen problems (thing doesn't sense your fingers at some parts of the screen) and had to send to Asus for RMA. I was told it'll come back in 6-8 weeks... so I'm not too happy at the moment.
blastdabomb said:
As for me, I got touch screen problems (thing doesn't sense your fingers at some parts of the screen) and had to send to Asus for RMA. I was told it'll come back in 6-8 weeks... so I'm not too happy at the moment.
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Wow, two months! That is ridiculous! Shouldn't they send you a replacement and then you send the defective unit back.
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thebigham said:
Wow, two months! That is ridiculous! Shouldn't they send you a replacement and then you send the defective unit back.
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Well, it's the RMA and they don't send the replacement. I hope for the turnaround to be less than 2 months but for now I'll have to see if I really need a tablet, and if so, look at some stores' return policies.

Rules of Selling an Transformer

Anyone knows the xda rules of me trying to sell a partially broken Transformer? I have a transformer that I dropped and the screen stopped working, then I opened it up and got it to work for a moment, now its back to not working. I know someone with more skills can get it to work and I would like to sell it to a member if possible.
Meant to say - Rules of Selling "a" Transformer
what do you want?
Make me an offer. I'm sure someone can get this to work, keep it or resell it.
Seems fair but more than I want to pay for parts
I is a cheap ass and already have an Asus, Nook Color, Notion Ink Adam and 3 Touchpads...I have a tab in every room now
Anyone can make me an offer. I don't even know where the wires are that control the screen.
One us dollar!
owlmatt said:
Anyone can make me an offer. I don't even know where the wires are that control the screen.
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Look, man, check your PM. With the condition that you described your TF, I honestly think what I offered is going to be the best you will ever get. In fact, I'm having doubts about my offer. Just saying. Why would anyone want to pay a lot of money for something that more likely than not will be as good as a door stopper?
thebadfrog said:
Seems fair but more than I want to pay for parts
I is a cheap ass and already have an Asus, Nook Color, Notion Ink Adam and 3 Touchpads...I have a tab in every room now
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you can you can carry any one of these devices across rooms, right?
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I'll buy it. Will pm when I get home.
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With the help of thebadfrog I was able to fix it myself. Thanks for the help. No longer selling it.

One more update then - LAWYER UP!! Class Action....

I am willing to pursue a class action lawsuit on behalf of all of us who were sold defective Nexus 7 (2013) tablet's and have useless touchscreens.
I am giving them one more chance with an update to repair the problem and then I'm taking it to my company's lawyer.
I have sent it in once, they told me they "re-calibrated the screen and digitizer"......no improvement.
Still having sticky keys, phantom touches, long presses.....It is absolutely a useless tablet as I can't type like I normally can.
If you would like to pursue litigation, please join me.
GOOGLE, YOU HAVE ONE MORE CHANCE!! MAKE THIS RIGHT OR WE WILL END UP IN COURT - GUARANTEED.
Its no worse then what we saw (actually far better) with the Xoom timing out touch events after 15 seconds.
Don't get me wrong... It is certainly annoying... I'm just not certain that it meets the criteria for the type of litigation you are suggesting.
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Has Google refused to remedy your problem, either with a new tablet or an update? It's not as if the entire product line is defective - far from it. As with anything that's manufactured, there will be some items that fall below standard. I doubt you have the right to sue over this. I understand you're pissed but a CAL isn't going to happen.
Let us know what your lawyer says. I'd be surprised if you found one willing to take the case.
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Let us know what your lawyer says. I'd be surprised if you found one willing to take the case.
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It's MY company's lawyer...
He doesn't have a choice....LOL.
....Are you guys really willing to be robbed from and then let them get away with??
As a business owner myself, I know how I would handle it if I wished to preserve my reputation.
We'll see, but having to resort to an older tablet to send emails is unacceptable.
I may simply demand a refund and go buy a Samsung......
If nobody else wants to get onboard....
I can't understand why you wouldn't but I'll get my money back and move on....
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I may simply demand a refund and go buy a Samsung......
If nobody else wants to get onboard....
I can't understand why you wouldn't but I'll get my money back and move on....
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Good luck with that. Unless you have multiple warranty replacements, they'd probably just laugh at you.
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If the entire product line was defective and Google refused to remedy the situation, then a CAL could be justified. Have you exhausted all avenues of approach yet? Demanded a refund? A new tablet? Those are your best options at the moment. I personally don't have a problem with my N7.
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Good luck with that. Unless you have multiple warranty replacements, they'd probably just laugh at you.
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That's exactly what they just did....
dkb218 said:
Have you exhausted all avenues of approach yet? Demanded a refund? A new tablet?
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OP, pay attention. This guy is thinking clearly. :good:
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OP, pay attention. This guy is thinking clearly. :good:
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I demanded a refund just now from Google. Less than a month old - NOPE.
I was put in contact with ASUS. They want me to send it in and I have to pay the shipping.
Ridiculous. I'm going to buy a Samsung right now and sell this POS.
As if Sammy is any better... Good luck with bloatwiz...
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kayakaddict said:
I demanded a refund just now from Google. Less than a month old - NOPE.
I was put in contact with ASUS. They want me to send it in and I have to pay the shipping.
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Google's return policy is 15 days after the date of delivery, You missed out on the chance of getting a replacement or a refund.
Your best shot now is contact ASUS again and demand they pay for the shipping for a defective item, try to demand talking to a manager might help.
Am sure if we get Andy Dufresne involved he will fix it for us for a few cold beers each on the rooftop of asus factory for the defected units
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Regarding the CAL, if you missed the return/refund window for Google you can't really get anything from CAL.
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Don't quit your day job, you're no legal scholar.
Reckoning said:
Don't quit your day job, you're no legal scholar.
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I am not, and now I stand corrected.
If you're at all serious, here's a rich source of potential participants :
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/mG4JXaT-SHs[1-25-false]
Rofl...problem is most people are too ignorant to even realize their device is defective.
Shouting about "my N7 works perfect!"....
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Rofl...problem is most people are too ignorant to even realize their device is defective.
Shouting about "my N7 works perfect!"....
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+1 Someone say his Nexus isn't working properly and that is willing to take action, then the thread suddenly floods with people with "perfect" Nexus, and saying it's not a big deal.
If you don't have any problem with your Nexus, hooray! good for you, a lot of us do have problems.
PS: I was the owner of a Note 8, 0 problems, I though, well I had the Nexus 7(2012) and it worked fine, plus is pure android. So I jumped to this Nexus for the screen and pure android... now I'm starting to regret it, just know my keyboard started with the ghost touches, is incredibly annoying...
Let me say something. This guy is right we are getting the shaft. I been building computers and a tech for 20 yrs. I have had every top of the line tablet out there. I still love my IPAD 4.
I have bought 7 Nexus 7 2013 from 3 different places and the seventh still is messed up. Now you are going to say that is normal. Bullcrap.
Out of all of the top of the line tablets I have I never had to take them back and replace them. Once would be fine but 7 and still not working is not freakin right.
I have had the Asus TF101, Asus TF300, Asus TF700, Samsung GALAXY Tab 1, Galaxy tab 8.0, Toshiba Thrive, Toshiba Excite, HP touch pad and more never had a screen problem like this. I have a I7 3700K overclocked on air at 4.7ghz evo 212 cpu fan.
You should never have to replace more than 2 times to get something right, I would have to say that their product line is 85% bad on the Nexus 7 2013.

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