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can we get the source code for the HTC widgets and make them work for the normal android UI without rosie??
No. I'm pretty sure that the source code for anything is not included in the final product.
johnnie93 said:
can we get the source code for the HTC widgets and make them work for the normal android UI without rosie??
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No the HTC framework (which they are dependant on) is closed source.
HTC hasn't released source code for anything so far, so I highly doubt we will see source for Hero. They are perfectly within their rights to do this too, except for the stuff they've done to the Linux kernel (cough Rogers Dream cough).
is their a way to make the source code available for the users? as in i buy the phone then do something to give you guys the source codes?
johnnie93 said:
is their a way to make the source code available for the users? as in i buy the phone then do something to give you guys the source codes?
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You won't have the source code, only the compiled binaries on the device. Of course we'd appreciate a dump of those too
johnnie93 said:
is their a way to make the source code available for the users? as in i buy the phone then do something to give you guys the source codes?
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No. It's like asking for McDonalds for their secret sauce recipe. They won't do that because then they'd loose business.
ivanmmj said:
No. It's like asking for McDonalds for their secret sauce recipe. They won't do that because then they'd loose business.
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secret sauce is thousand island on the big mac
johnnie93 said:
is their a way to make the source code available for the users? as in i buy the phone then do something to give you guys the source codes?
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no, thats not really how source code works. once compiled, its compiled, and no longer source.
oh ok then im going to buy the hero if their is no way to get the wedgets running on the G1 with out slowness of rosie on the G1 thanks.
anddep said:
secret sauce is thousand island on the big mac
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hehe, Almost. Rumors DO say that it's a version of Thousand Islands, though.
johnnie93 said:
oh ok then im going to buy the hero if their is no way to get the wedgets running on the G1 with out slowness of rosie on the G1 thanks.
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My Hero G1 is NOT slow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxLZOhUA3R0
Just figured I'd chime in. A review of the Hero (mobilecrunch I think) said that even the widgets on the real Hero hardware ran slow. I have a feeling it's just poor optimization on HTC's part but I could be wrong.
Breakthecycle2 said:
My Hero G1 is NOT slow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxLZOhUA3R0
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What swap size and swappiness are you running in that video?
Also, fast food sucks! >:-0
AdrianK said:
What swap size and swappiness are you running in that video?
Also, fast food sucks! >:-0
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64 swap size. The swapper is auto, I haven't touched it.
Breakthecycle2 said:
64 swap size. The swapper is auto, I haven't touched it.
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alright thanks. I'm thinking I might try a 48 when my new card arrives.
Maybe we already went over this but I can't remember. Why can't we port over the .29 kernel from the GSM roms?
chuckhriczko said:
Maybe we already went over this but I can't remember. Why can't we port over the .29 kernel from the GSM roms?
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The entire code base has an inherently british accent and it gets annoying after about 60 seconds.
VoXHTC said:
The entire code base has an inherently british accent and it gets annoying after about 60 seconds.
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Well that says it all
From what I have been able to tell, its just toooooo different. We can get several things working, but not all things.
VoXHTC said:
The entire code base has an inherently british accent and it gets annoying after about 60 seconds.
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wow.... I'm still laughing as I write this.... Be careful though, we don't want to start the Revolutionary war II.
I'm not scared. They have the kernel we need, they get all the fancy "shmancy" phones before we do. They won't share it and I'm pretty sure I know why so if they can't take a little poke then I suppose they should "bugger off!"
VoXHTC said:
I'm not scared. They have the kernel we need, they get all the fancy "shmancy" phones before we do. They won't share it and I'm pretty sure I know why so if they can't take a little poke then I suppose they should "bugger off!"
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They do have the kernel? I thought so but wasnt sure.
uhh... i'm a bit confused about the whole kernel thing regarding the hero.
i know that htc released the source code for the kernel... but i'm assuming that was the 2.6.27 right?
so i know that android 2.1 uses .29 to work, so how did the GSM hero people get that kernel and why don't we have a working .29 kernel for our phones?
please clarify?
justinisyoung said:
uhh... i'm a bit confused about the whole kernel thing regarding the hero.
i know that htc released the source code for the kernel... but i'm assuming that was the 2.6.27 right?
so i know that android 2.1 uses .29 to work, so how did the GSM hero people get that kernel and why don't we have a working .29 kernel for our phones?
please clarify?
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I believe its because they had the original leak of the 2.1 sense with the .29 kernel built in
YEAH! and they're just jealous that we have Obama and Starbucks so they're not sharing.
VoXHTC said:
YEAH! and they're just jealous that we have Obama and Starbucks so they're not sharing.
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well, it was not us that chose a network where your phone is tied to your contract... lmao'd when i heard that there are no simcards on cdma networks... come on guys, you can't be serious?
VoXHTC said:
YEAH! and they're just jealous that we have Obama and Starbucks so they're not sharing.
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Seriously? They can have Obama if they want him. I'll trade Obama for a Nexus One. Anyone? Anyone?
chuckhriczko said:
Seriously? They can have Obama if they want him. I'll trade Obama for a Nexus One. Anyone? Anyone?
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+1
I would like to try to put together a custom kernel for my Hero. But I am having trouble locating the .29 source. I synced up with http://android.git.kernel.org/kernel/common but that is the .27 branch. And most of the other stuff looks to be .27 as well. Is the only place to get the .29 source from the GSM hero? Thanks for any help.
gcardy said:
I would like to try to put together a custom kernel for my Hero. But I am having trouble locating the .29 source. I synced up with http://android.git.kernel.org/kernel/common but that is the .27 branch. And most of the other stuff looks to be .27 as well. Is the only place to get the .29 source from the GSM hero? Thanks for any help.
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I believe that is the only place to get the source. HTC hasn't released the cdma source yet. Is that our issue? Isn't it possible to use the gsm source?
found something helpful out
so when i run 'make menuconfig' front eh root directory of the HTC released .27 Hero source, under system type "Qualcomm MSM" is the system type. So when browsing through the link that I posted to the kernel git repo I found that there is a MSM branch, and it looks like it have some references to .29 and later kernel verions. Ill explore further and let you guys know.
I see some gingerbread in our future google just dropped the source code on their repository... (edit) Actually they are dropping it now, as I type probably won't be done for a lil while..
swyped from my HD2 Android
Check these out...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865161
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877777
That first one is 10 days old already!
johncmolyneux said:
Check these out...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865161
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877777
That first one is 10 days old already!
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Those are SDK builds and pretty worthless, we needed the source code for a decent build. So yeah, this is exciting news!
StephanV said:
Those are SDK builds and pretty worthless, we needed the source code for a decent build. So yeah, this is exciting news!
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Okay. I don't think they're "pretty worthless" at all, and I wasn't poo-pooing you. I was just pointing out that we already have some gingerbread - didn't know if you knew or not.
StephanV said:
Those are SDK builds and pretty worthless, we needed the source code for a decent build. So yeah, this is exciting news!
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my build NOT from SDK
m-deejay said:
my build NOT from SDK
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My bad, I only checked the first link and assumed the second one was SDK too, as there are two floating around. Yours looks awesome, no disrespect at all of course!
@john: I'm not TS btw, no hard feelings. SDK builds have always been unuseable, that's just in their nature. Sure, they may be fun to play around with for a couple of hours, but as a build they're worthless, imo.
So I installed the full SDK of Honeycomb and created the first AVD with it. I noticed something nice and promising for all us Archos IT holders. The hardware RAM by default is set to 256mb. Now, I'm no expert, but that tells me that it CAN run with our 256mb devices.
Now if only we had more developers! LOL
ExploreMN said:
Now if only we had more developers! LOL
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Or less broken USB ports so devs don't have to RMA their devices
When the source for HC comes out there will be one dev more.
Before that we have no chance.
So next week the xoom will be there and then google normaly releases the code right after that.
So lets hope.
Honeycomb SDK is out!!! go go go!!!
The Beta sdk was there already.
But that is not enough, we need the Sourcecode, not the Binaries that are working in Emulator.
playing around with it a little on the emulator...at the 101's resolution full tablet HC that we're used to seeing...
at 800x480 (for the 70) it seems to revert to "phone mode"
I could've swore I just read on Google that they released the source today for Honeycomb
Edit* link= http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.0.html
Zoidpilot said:
I could've swore I just read on Google that they released the source today for Honeycomb
Edit* link= http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.0.html
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No, that's the SDK (hence the SDK in the URL for the OS.
I made the same mistake though. I thought the SDK was needed for making ROMs...I had no idea the source is used...but hey...I learned something new here!
Yes, the SDK is used by developers to build software for the specific Version.
The Sourcecode is needed to port it to a Device.
The source is normally released a couple of weeks after the first device with the OS is launched. Since the XOOM (first device to be launched with 3.0) was released today, the source should be here in a couple of weeks... what this space.
ExploreMN said:
No, that's the SDK (hence the SDK in the URL for the OS.
I made the same mistake though. I thought the SDK was needed for making ROMs...I had no idea the source is used...but hey...I learned something new here!
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Gosh now I feel so stupid reading over the url. *facepalm* for some reason I thought the source was in there haha.... well I'm learning too.
ExploreMN why do I get the feeling we keep running into each other on the threads?
chulri said:
Or less broken USB ports so devs don't have to RMA their devices
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Do you not think that the warranty would be in question, I mean I take it you have installed SDE on your device? I know the warranty states that it would void the warranty if the issue is as a result of installing the SDE. Do you think they would claim that this could have caused the failure? If they did then that would be almost an admission that updating the firmware could also cause this issue. If you do RMA your device and they don't question this then let me know so then I might bother sending mine back!
Zoidpilot said:
ExploreMN why do I get the feeling we keep running into each other on the threads?
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Do you go by a different nickname?
Anyway, SDK or not, the main thing started this thread about what that the emulator default is 256mb RAM. Since the "rumor" that concerned most of us was that Honeycomb would require 512mb of RAM to work, thus eliminating the Archos Gen8 devices from running it, is less of an issue.
It stands to reason that if the emulator default is 256, then a device only needs 256 to run it...so...we can get us some honeycomb sans the weird little ADHD furry creature running around.
musogeek said:
Do you not think that the warranty would be in question, I mean I take it you have installed SDE on your device? I know the warranty states that it would void the warranty if the issue is as a result of installing the SDE. Do you think they would claim that this could have caused the failure?
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SDE shouldn't be related to the issue because I never used a different kernel, only some additional modules.
musogeek said:
If they did then that would be almost an admission that updating the firmware could also cause this issue. If you do RMA your device and they don't question this then let me know so then I might bother sending mine back!
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I'll let you know what happened when something happened.
Nevermind.
The question is... once Google releases source code for Honeycomb, do we have archos drivers source to make the port? or it's closed source?
I reply myself... guess this was what I was talking about :
http://www.archos.com/support/download/software/sources/gen8-gpl-froyo.tgz
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The question is... once Google releases source code for Honeycomb, do we have archos drivers source to make the port? or it's closed source?
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hw accelerated video decoding (cinema plugin, remember that? ) will be biggest issue. afaik everything else is open.
Hey there,
Few exciting tweets entered my twitter stream before!
https://twitter.com/#!/aliasxerog/status/97163058815827968
or
https://twitter.com/#!/T0DblD/status/97162860899205120
Not long now I hope!
Enjoy!
- DarkRyoushii
DarkRyoushii said:
Hey there,
Few exciting tweets entered my twitter stream before!
https://twitter.com/#!/aliasxerog/status/97163058815827968
or
https://twitter.com/#!/T0DblD/status/97162860899205120
Not long now I hope!
Enjoy!
- DarkRyoushii
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You know if you don't wanna wait you can always get it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178469&highlight=cyanogenmod&page=2
Sweet
This is awesome
Can't wait for final version .
Good Job, and keep it up.
BravoMotorola said:
You know if you don't wanna wait you can always get it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178469&highlight=cyanogenmod&page=2
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And how would one go by doing this, using the provided thread?
eagerly waiting for the final release...
bsutton said:
And how would one go by doing this, using the provided thread?
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you get to the github and compile like a boss.
darkamikaze said:
you get to the github and compile like a boss.
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So...linux is needed?;/
darkamikaze said:
you get to the github and compile like a boss.
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I lol'd when I saw this.
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So... No cell signal at all and no battery monitoring? Alpha1 it certainly would be! Cool if this is for real. At least the screen resolutions match...
xfinrodx said:
So... No cell signal at all and no battery monitoring? Alpha1 it certainly would be! Cool if this is for real. At least the screen resolutions match...
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plenty real. for those wondering how to build the source.
download cm7.1 from git
download our source code and place it on the correct folders
run the extract files found in device folder
then type
. build/envsetup.sh
and finally for the bacon
brunch olympus -j4
enjoy!
samcripp said:
plenty real. for those wondering how to build the source.
download cm7.1 from git
download our source code and place it on the correct folders
run the extract files found in device folder
then type
. build/envsetup.sh
and finally for the bacon
brunch olympus -j4
enjoy!
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thank you samcripp and the other dev members from the Atrix cyanogen team!
Huge thanks to you guys. Can't wait to see an official build!
Dystopiq said:
Huge thanks to you guys. Can't wait to see an official build!
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Lol, judging by the looks of that screen shot, it seems a tad far off than I would have guessed. But it's running, so that's great at least.
The fact that they got it to boot with no official kernel source is awesome.
henrys01 said:
The fact that they got it to boot with no official kernel source is awesome.
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They have officail kernel source
Sent via the power of a unicorn's horn.
Anthonok said:
They have officail kernel source
Sent via the power of a unicorn's horn.
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They had it running before they had the official kernel source
Argh, I think faux123 deserves a little spotlight here as well.
His twitter! = http://twitter.com/#!/faux123
He also posted a screenshot less than an hour ago:
http://twitpic.com/5y32ux
Enjoy!
Thanks faux123, keep on working. :
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Lol, judging by the looks of that screen shot, it seems a tad far off than I would have guessed. But it's running, so that's great at least.
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If it boots, it's already a massive progress Now that they have official kernel source, things should move forward faster I reckon.
Jonestown said:
Argh, I think faux123 deserves a little spotlight here as well.
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Everyone from the team deserves a huge round for applause -
https://github.com/Atrix-Dev-Team
xploited said:
If it boots, it's already a massive progress Now that they have official kernel source, things should move forward faster I reckon.
Everyone from the team deserves a huge round for applause -
https://github.com/Atrix-Dev-Team
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Agreed, I need to reinstall a copy of Ubuntu on my second HD.
can't ****ing wait to have all those fancy cm7 settings back =D