So I installed the full SDK of Honeycomb and created the first AVD with it. I noticed something nice and promising for all us Archos IT holders. The hardware RAM by default is set to 256mb. Now, I'm no expert, but that tells me that it CAN run with our 256mb devices.
Now if only we had more developers! LOL
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Now if only we had more developers! LOL
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Or less broken USB ports so devs don't have to RMA their devices
When the source for HC comes out there will be one dev more.
Before that we have no chance.
So next week the xoom will be there and then google normaly releases the code right after that.
So lets hope.
Honeycomb SDK is out!!! go go go!!!
The Beta sdk was there already.
But that is not enough, we need the Sourcecode, not the Binaries that are working in Emulator.
playing around with it a little on the emulator...at the 101's resolution full tablet HC that we're used to seeing...
at 800x480 (for the 70) it seems to revert to "phone mode"
I could've swore I just read on Google that they released the source today for Honeycomb
Edit* link= http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.0.html
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I could've swore I just read on Google that they released the source today for Honeycomb
Edit* link= http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.0.html
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No, that's the SDK (hence the SDK in the URL for the OS.
I made the same mistake though. I thought the SDK was needed for making ROMs...I had no idea the source is used...but hey...I learned something new here!
Yes, the SDK is used by developers to build software for the specific Version.
The Sourcecode is needed to port it to a Device.
The source is normally released a couple of weeks after the first device with the OS is launched. Since the XOOM (first device to be launched with 3.0) was released today, the source should be here in a couple of weeks... what this space.
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No, that's the SDK (hence the SDK in the URL for the OS.
I made the same mistake though. I thought the SDK was needed for making ROMs...I had no idea the source is used...but hey...I learned something new here!
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Gosh now I feel so stupid reading over the url. *facepalm* for some reason I thought the source was in there haha.... well I'm learning too.
ExploreMN why do I get the feeling we keep running into each other on the threads?
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Or less broken USB ports so devs don't have to RMA their devices
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Do you not think that the warranty would be in question, I mean I take it you have installed SDE on your device? I know the warranty states that it would void the warranty if the issue is as a result of installing the SDE. Do you think they would claim that this could have caused the failure? If they did then that would be almost an admission that updating the firmware could also cause this issue. If you do RMA your device and they don't question this then let me know so then I might bother sending mine back!
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ExploreMN why do I get the feeling we keep running into each other on the threads?
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Do you go by a different nickname?
Anyway, SDK or not, the main thing started this thread about what that the emulator default is 256mb RAM. Since the "rumor" that concerned most of us was that Honeycomb would require 512mb of RAM to work, thus eliminating the Archos Gen8 devices from running it, is less of an issue.
It stands to reason that if the emulator default is 256, then a device only needs 256 to run it...so...we can get us some honeycomb sans the weird little ADHD furry creature running around.
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Do you not think that the warranty would be in question, I mean I take it you have installed SDE on your device? I know the warranty states that it would void the warranty if the issue is as a result of installing the SDE. Do you think they would claim that this could have caused the failure?
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SDE shouldn't be related to the issue because I never used a different kernel, only some additional modules.
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If they did then that would be almost an admission that updating the firmware could also cause this issue. If you do RMA your device and they don't question this then let me know so then I might bother sending mine back!
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I'll let you know what happened when something happened.
Nevermind.
The question is... once Google releases source code for Honeycomb, do we have archos drivers source to make the port? or it's closed source?
I reply myself... guess this was what I was talking about :
http://www.archos.com/support/download/software/sources/gen8-gpl-froyo.tgz
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The question is... once Google releases source code for Honeycomb, do we have archos drivers source to make the port? or it's closed source?
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hw accelerated video decoding (cinema plugin, remember that? ) will be biggest issue. afaik everything else is open.
Related
First of all I can't code myself..
Second I don't know if I'm allowed to ask questions here
But does anyone know if it would be possible porting psgroove to android, I'm not asking if it has been done just if it is possible.
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Yeah this would be really great. I do know an iPhone version is being worked on.
I hope someone manages to do it, the phones should be more than capable of running it aslong as the software has control over the USB port. Although I think it should be possible since I've seen software to make your phone a USB host for nexus and desire.
this guy is
http://twitter.com/qberty1337
and him to
http://twitter.com/netzke
http://netzke.blogspot.com/
What does this mean and how does it work... does it mean this:
Simple drag and drop data files onto our micro sd, then usb the android to the ps3 and it'll serve the same purpose as the dongle does? AKA, no need to buy psjailbreak or any other accesories?!?!
Yep that's basically what it means
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http://netzke.blogspot.com/
hes been working on it and according to him it should be complete sept. 3rd
"Off for now I will be back in a few hours.
I have been working at this for over 30 hours straight now. I'm off to get some sleep. I will be sure to get you guys a special gift tomorrow HINT"
cant wait
i think this is fake, do not donate to be a beta tester!
he has screenshots of the app up, who knows
a-money said:
he has screenshots of the app up, who knows
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wait for the video he is promising, also wait for others to confirm. Making an app is simple, making one that actually does what it claims is completely different.
I find it strange that he is asking for donations for an ipod/iphone when he hasnt finished the android port first, seems fishy but i am hoping for the best and waiting.
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he has screenshots of the app up, who knows
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Looks like App Inventor
Coffeinchen said:
Looks like App Inventor
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does that mean its fake? we just have to wait and see
that mostly is a fake always he talk's about is an app that does everything but you have to patch the android kernel so as to make it access the low-level functions that we need.the android system is like a sandbox which wont allow an user to access the low-level stuff.But hey it's been promising KaKaRoTo came up with a n900 version of it.Hope some1 can p0rt it over to an android device
After extensive google search I have came my personal opinion (everyone has one) that this will happen in the future. The software used to make this is open source. Since android is based off of open source somebody will be able to make this happen. I personaly am not smart enough to do this. I see a lot of sites promoting this to happen with jailbroken iphones in the "near future" more but for it to happen with android phones is very proberble as well
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After extensive google search I have came my personal opinion (everyone has one) that this will happen in the future. The software used to make this is open source. Since android is based off of open source somebody will be able to make this happen. I personaly am not smart enough to do this. I see a lot of sites promoting this to happen with jailbroken iphones in the "near future" more but for it to happen with android phones is very proberble as well
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well it'll come in a day or two.just let kakaroto release his source code which he'll be doin tomorrow hopefully.then the android specific ports will soon follow in ^_^
Guys, I seriously think this netzke guy is deceiving everyone. Normally I don't like to be in this position calling someone a liar, but his blog posts are very awkward.
http://netzke.blogspot.com/
He just posted this:
I've been working pretty hard through this. I will be taking a few hours to sleep now. Your comments may not appear for several hours because of this. I'm not sure what the rest of the team is planning to do. Chances are they will also be taking a break for a few hours.
Beta for Iphone is open now. Beta release in the next week +- 3 days.
Beta for android is still open but we will be closing it soon
$15 will get you into the beta for sure. Others may or may not be selected given the large amount of applications. So your best way in is to donate.
A video will be released within the next few days. of both the iOS port and the Android port.
Those who do donate may not receive confirmation for a while. But we will try our best.
Donate button is on the top right for those who have been asking.
Thanks for understanding that people have to sleep
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I made this comment on his previous post, but he did not approve it:
Ok, I'm starting to loose my faith that you are actually doing something. Time to show some proof. In all of your posts you didn't say anything technical about your progress. What did you accomplish so far? What are your main issues right now? You've been wasting more time asking for donation than in actual development. As for your screenshots, anyone with basic Android coding skills could make an Activity with buttons triggering Toasts in less than 10 min. Where is the video you promised?
AND FOR THE REST OF YOU FOLKS:
I can't believe there so many people dumb enough to give this guy money without him actually delivering anything useful.
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What do you guys think?
Nicely put
http://github.com/kakaroto/PSFreedom
kakaroto released his source - Let it begin!
chrs2021 said:
http://github.com/kakaroto/PSFreedom
kakaroto released his source - Let it begin!
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It wont be long now
dragon1018 said:
It wont be long now
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may not even have to make an app for it..
readme has info on where to edit if you want to port it.
so you could just edit for the usb controller on HTC phones, compile to the linux app, then run it through a terminal.
would be an interesting idea anyway
I was able to get some information from Viewsonic via a direct message on twitter. Please understand, that if you ask Viewsonic about this publicly, they will more than likely deny it:
http://twitpic.com/3g77do
http://twitpic.com/3g77lc
Trist
Cool.... I'll start on the ubuntu ROM....
Um why not just make it public? Things like this make me wonder...
Really hope this is legit! Then the fun can really get started!
what does this mean? does it mean the kernel will be unlocked and we can overclock? or use the 2nd core?
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what does this mean? does it mean the kernel will be unlocked and we can overclock? or use the 2nd core?
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It means that they are going to release the Kernel Source and we can compile our own kernels.
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what does this mean? does it mean the kernel will be unlocked and we can overclock? or use the 2nd core?
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TnT and VEGAn are both using the 2nd core as far as the devs know.
Frozen001 said:
Um why not just make it public? Things like this make me wonder...
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I think so that they don't have to release it by then if something comes up.
markgolly said:
Cool.... I'll start on the ubuntu ROM....
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Hell ya I would love some Ubuntu 10.10 NBR on here... although i dunno if flash has been optimized for ubuntu and the ARM9 yet
Does this mean we could finally get a "stock" Android build, with Market and everything integrated?
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Does this mean we could finally get a "stock" Android build, with Market and everything integrated?
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Market is typically disabled on all non-phone or non-3G devices by Google. That's why we have to hack a fix to make it work. Google has stated many times that they do not want marketplace on any non-phone or non-3G capable device. That might change with Android 3.0, but for now, we're stuck hacking the fix.
Ooh please let this be true. Kernel source + Froyo AOSP would make me a VERY happy camper. For that matter kernel source + TnT Lite or VEGAn would make me just as happy!
Hehe.... Watching movies from my 4TB NAS while sitting on the loo, here I come...
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Hehe.... Watching movies from my 4TB NAS while sitting on the loo, here I come...
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man, your butt is gonna be numbbbbb.
that all depends on what kind of movies he'll be watching
thanks you made me think of two girls one cup.. wait now you're thinking about it.. haha (you're welcome)
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Market is typically disabled on all non-phone or non-3G devices by Google. That's why we have to hack a fix to make it work. Google has stated many times that they do not want marketplace on any non-phone or non-3G capable device. That might change with Android 3.0, but for now, we're stuck hacking the fix.
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Well, that remains true as of right now.
However, barnes and noble are supposedly releasing a 2.2 + market update to their nook color in january. and for $250. that is a hell of a good deal.
I have also seen people saying they have the market and then come to find out. they didnt have it legally. but i dont thing a big wig like barnes and noble would do that.
it would seem that google is easing up on its market access. realizing that we have tablets now. and we want to fully utilize them now. not whenever 3.0 comes out.
AC had an article that the Nook won't be getting market after all, but will get 2.2.
Anyway this is great news!
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Well, that remains true as of right now.
However, barnes and noble are supposedly releasing a 2.2 + market update to their nook color in january. and for $250. that is a hell of a good deal.
I have also seen people saying they have the market and then come to find out. they didnt have it legally. but i dont thing a big wig like barnes and noble would do that.
it would seem that google is easing up on its market access. realizing that we have tablets now. and we want to fully utilize them now. not whenever 3.0 comes out.
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The Nook will be getting a "market" but it will not be the Google Market. It will be like what Viewsonic provided for the G-Tab.
tristanwolf1134 said:
The Nook will be getting a "market" but it will not be the Google Market. It will be like what Viewsonic provided for the G-Tab.
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Viewsonic provided a market?? Oh yea, that's right... That didn't work on day one either
THANK GOD FOR XDA AND OPEN SOURCE!
can anybody port the 3.0 honeycomb version to our beloved Hero?
they did it to the G1/Magic, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RKEHfOwnSI&feature=player_embedded
any hope??
If there is a port to G1/Magic I guess that is possible a port to Hero..
RubenFreitas said:
If there is a port to G1/Magic I guess that is possible a port to Hero..
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there is a port, in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936874
hiato said:
there is a port, in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936874
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is this port working on hero ?
I would say try it.
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I would say try it.
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yea, let us know
it's certainly buildable for the hero - but most hardware will be broken I would imagine.
Sitting here, playing with an ugly port of the sdk, the first images,most just to remove my pin code so I can get into the system
yes elelinux!
do you think when the sources get released you would have much chance of building a full (or near full) working honeycomb rom?
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yes elelinux!
do you think when the sources get released you would have much chance of building a full (or near full) working honeycomb rom?
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I think it's possible, but it will not be easy. Especially because Honeycomb is made for tablets... and not for our phones.
If it's built from SDK I bet that almost none of the hardware is working...
mljjlm said:
If it's built from SDK I bet that almost none of the hardware is working...
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That is correct, but strangely all the backlighting of the buttons etc worked out of the box, buttons it is easy to fix if you want.
Just a little test for fun nothing else, also saw that there was support for mdpi so theoretically it could be working on Hero with some manual intervention.
Another thing to, boot up without problems
elelinux said:
That is correct, but strangely all the backlighting of the buttons etc worked out of the box, buttons it is easy to fix if you want.
Just a little test for fun nothing else, also saw that there was support for mdpi so theoretically it could be working on Hero with some manual intervention.
Another thing to, boot up without problems
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Wow, please make a rom for us to play with please. I cant believe the G1 has one and we dont.
maybe we are are asking too much on our hero....
but hey if it'll work then we shall have it
SENT FROM MY HTC HERO running GINGERBREAD by elelinux
elliotn said:
maybe we are are asking too much on our hero....
but hey if it'll work then we shall have it
SENT FROM MY HTC HERO running GINGERBREAD by elelinux
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????
the G1 is already running it!!!
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the G1 is already running it!!!
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Yes but hardly anything is working! Even the Nexus one has no audio,wifi,bluetooth,calls!
Yes, it is foolish to ask for a ROM that's meant to run on tablets to be made for phones. But I never have never said and never will say no to a new ROM...
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Yes it's going to run like ass and our screens won't do any good either.
But... as always, I'm eager to see what crazy stuff the ROM-people come up with.
but the sdk version includes some feature of switching from tablet to mobile mode by simply changing resolution... they won't have included it if it wasn't meant to be run on mobiles, and in 3.1, mobile (2.x) and tablet (3.0) development lines shall be joined (says wikipedia lol). moreover, lots of people out here said it would be impossible to run 2.2 and 2.3 on hero, and right now i'm looking at my rooted android 2.3 hero which is incredibly smooth and stable (way better than with stock os). so why shouldn't it be possible? ele just said even backlight of the buttons worked out of the box, which was not case in 2.x. i'm still believing in our developers (although i can't code well enough to support them ) and i'm sure they'll do some magic
greets, Summoner
Do you really use wikipedia for truths? Anyone can add to Wiki?!
no i don't... i just think it sounds possible... otherwise, there would be two future development lines which the consequence would be that there were VERY different features depending where more / the better devs work on lol^^
i didn't claim it was the absolute truth, otherwise i wouldn't have explicitly said it came from wiki ...
greets Summoner
I know that before team win was working on Full HDMI there was someone else that already had a beta out. If I remember correctly, it was fully functional compared to the one put out by team win. Where can I find this at?
Thanks,
Jhoffy22
jhoffy22 said:
I know that before team win was working on Full HDMI there was someone else that already had a beta out. If I remember correctly, it was fully functional compared to the one put out by team win. Where can I find this at?
Thanks,
Jhoffy22
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Violation of GPL. The developer only released a public beta to get people to buy it once of is released.
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Also, you should be able to find it in the Evo 4G roots and hacks forum at www.androidcentral.com
Oh, that kind of sucks. I was hoping to try this app out now that I just got my new HD tv. I've been hearing that the one released by team win is not fully functional.
jhoffy22 said:
Oh, that kind of sucks. I was hoping to try this app out now that I just got my new HD tv. I've been hearing that the one released by team win is not fully functional.
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The other guys app isn't fully functional neither, its still considered a beta also. The team win hdmi is free as compared to the guy orrembas(android central) has a trial. He said when his app hits the market the trial will automatically end and not work you will need to pay for it. I've used both apps and only thing the other guys has is sound(which isn't all that great cause it flickers while team wins doesn't). Good luck
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Rem3Dy said:
Violation of GPL.
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Incorrect. One of the kernels to enable the HDMI app was in violation of GPL and that was pulled by the dev in order to comply with GPL rules. The app does not violate anything and neither does the stock kernel with the HDMI drivers.
I miss the hdmi
tnettles20 said:
I miss the hdmi
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How do you miss something you've pretty much never had? lol Either way, no worries. Sooner than later, you will have options as far as HDMI mirroring goes. I find myself getting a lot more use out of my phone now with this feature. It really is awesome.
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I know that before team win was working on Full HDMI there was someone else that already had a beta out. If I remember correctly, it was fully functional compared to the one put out by team win. Where can I find this at?
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http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc...dmi-official-fullhdmi-beta-discussion-38.html
Based on the Latest post it will be hitting the market pretty soon.
Still no update on if he will release the custom drivers he wrote so they can be integrated into other kernels, although I believe that the drivers aren't needed in the new version, he is able to use the App in software mode.
Hardware mode requires drivers and overclocking which is what was in violation of GPL. Last I checked neither Team win or orrebmas has realeased source code to their Kernels.
detcup4evr said:
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc...dmi-official-fullhdmi-beta-discussion-38.html
Based on the Latest post it will be hitting the market pretty soon.
Still no update on if he will release the custom drivers he wrote so they can be integrated into other kernels, although I believe that the drivers aren't needed in the new version, he is able to use the App in software mode.
Hardware mode requires drivers and overclocking which is what was in violation of GPL. Last I checked neither Team win or orrebmas has realeased source code to their Kernels.
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The HDMI drivers from orrebmas have been public for a long while now. It would be up to the kernel cookers to compile them into the existing and/or future kernels builds.
rugedraw said:
The HDMI drivers from orrebmas have been public for a long while now. It would be up to the kernel cookers to compile them into the existing and/or future kernels builds.
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Excellent, I guess I missed that, Thanks
Hopefully only a matter of time before some new Kernels are released, using the SBC one concerns me a little.
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I've used both apps and only thing the other guys has is sound(which isn't all that great cause it flickers while team wins doesn't). Good luck
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Sound and multiple resolution support and software mirroring for non-rooted phones and displays fullscreen (no side bars) at 720p and 800x600. Shall I continue?
Went ics to my touch ? Or ivent port
edgarttr said:
Went ics to my touch ? Or ivent port
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I'm not sure what you are asking for...
Android/Google hasn't released the Source Code yet. So no developer has it. as of right now you can use a SDK port but many of the main features aren't working.
when they goin to port ics in to my touch?
the nexus s is runnig ics all ready
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the nexus s is runnig ics all ready
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I don't care what the Nexus S is running. We don't own Nexus S phones. Google has not released the source code for Android 4.0 yet. So no developer has it in their hands. EVERYTHING that is out there is a build from the SDK, so there will be flaws.
for a week or two there was a SDK port floating around here on XDA. the thread has been removed due to instability (or some other TOS)... but here is proof of my statement. http://omgdroid.com/2011/10/25/ice-cream-sandwich-4-0-1-sdk-port-mytouch-4g/
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the nexus s is runnig ics all ready
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no need to state the obvious...
who cares? be patient buddy.
Im itching to try and port ICS, but an SDK port isn't what you want to work with if it can be avoided.
Title is quite confusing, I don't know is your inquiring about when ICS went to the MT4G or something else.
If you really want to use an SDK you can A) port it yourself B)Buy a nexus C)Wait for source D)use ICS theme & launcher
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I don't care what the Nexus S is running. We don't own Nexus S phones. Google has not released the source code for Android 4.0 yet. So no developer has it in their hands. EVERYTHING that is out there is a build from the SDK, so there will be flaws.
for a week or two there was a SDK port floating around here on XDA. the thread has been removed due to instability (or some other TOS)... but here is proof of my statement. http://omgdroid.com/2011/10/25/ice-cream-sandwich-4-0-1-sdk-port-mytouch-4g/
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As far as I know, that build never made it past boot looping. I don't think the "dev" even had a MT4G, so there was no way he could get it working. He had similar posts for several devices for which he was attempting to get working ICS.
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As far as I know, that build never made it past boot looping. I don't think the "dev" even had a MT4G, so there was no way he could get it working. He had similar posts for several devices for which he was attempting to get working ICS.
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I was trying to get it to work but I need a custom kernel made for our phone and I don't have the knowledge for making that if anyone does pm.me please and ill attempt to make it
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Im itching to try and port ICS, but an SDK port isn't what you want to work with if it can be avoided.
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You should be able to get it to work, maybe with some bugs. If you never try you, won't know what might happen
From my fist to your face, enjoy!
It's being worked on by myself and a couple others. No eta or anything, but I'll start a thread in general section when we have more info on where we stand to keep everyone updated.
Sounds goods to me
From my fist to your face, enjoy!