IF the htc hero releases... - G1 General

can we get the source code for the HTC widgets and make them work for the normal android UI without rosie??

No. I'm pretty sure that the source code for anything is not included in the final product.

johnnie93 said:
can we get the source code for the HTC widgets and make them work for the normal android UI without rosie??
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No the HTC framework (which they are dependant on) is closed source.

HTC hasn't released source code for anything so far, so I highly doubt we will see source for Hero. They are perfectly within their rights to do this too, except for the stuff they've done to the Linux kernel (cough Rogers Dream cough).

is their a way to make the source code available for the users? as in i buy the phone then do something to give you guys the source codes?

johnnie93 said:
is their a way to make the source code available for the users? as in i buy the phone then do something to give you guys the source codes?
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You won't have the source code, only the compiled binaries on the device. Of course we'd appreciate a dump of those too

johnnie93 said:
is their a way to make the source code available for the users? as in i buy the phone then do something to give you guys the source codes?
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No. It's like asking for McDonalds for their secret sauce recipe. They won't do that because then they'd loose business.

ivanmmj said:
No. It's like asking for McDonalds for their secret sauce recipe. They won't do that because then they'd loose business.
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secret sauce is thousand island on the big mac

johnnie93 said:
is their a way to make the source code available for the users? as in i buy the phone then do something to give you guys the source codes?
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no, thats not really how source code works. once compiled, its compiled, and no longer source.

oh ok then im going to buy the hero if their is no way to get the wedgets running on the G1 with out slowness of rosie on the G1 thanks.

anddep said:
secret sauce is thousand island on the big mac
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hehe, Almost. Rumors DO say that it's a version of Thousand Islands, though.

johnnie93 said:
oh ok then im going to buy the hero if their is no way to get the wedgets running on the G1 with out slowness of rosie on the G1 thanks.
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My Hero G1 is NOT slow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxLZOhUA3R0

Just figured I'd chime in. A review of the Hero (mobilecrunch I think) said that even the widgets on the real Hero hardware ran slow. I have a feeling it's just poor optimization on HTC's part but I could be wrong.

Breakthecycle2 said:
My Hero G1 is NOT slow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxLZOhUA3R0
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What swap size and swappiness are you running in that video?
Also, fast food sucks! >:-0

AdrianK said:
What swap size and swappiness are you running in that video?
Also, fast food sucks! >:-0
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64 swap size. The swapper is auto, I haven't touched it.

Breakthecycle2 said:
64 swap size. The swapper is auto, I haven't touched it.
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alright thanks. I'm thinking I might try a 48 when my new card arrives.

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Why can't we port the .29 GSM Hero kernel working?

Maybe we already went over this but I can't remember. Why can't we port over the .29 kernel from the GSM roms?
chuckhriczko said:
Maybe we already went over this but I can't remember. Why can't we port over the .29 kernel from the GSM roms?
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The entire code base has an inherently british accent and it gets annoying after about 60 seconds.
VoXHTC said:
The entire code base has an inherently british accent and it gets annoying after about 60 seconds.
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Well that says it all
From what I have been able to tell, its just toooooo different. We can get several things working, but not all things.
VoXHTC said:
The entire code base has an inherently british accent and it gets annoying after about 60 seconds.
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wow.... I'm still laughing as I write this.... Be careful though, we don't want to start the Revolutionary war II.
I'm not scared. They have the kernel we need, they get all the fancy "shmancy" phones before we do. They won't share it and I'm pretty sure I know why so if they can't take a little poke then I suppose they should "bugger off!"
VoXHTC said:
I'm not scared. They have the kernel we need, they get all the fancy "shmancy" phones before we do. They won't share it and I'm pretty sure I know why so if they can't take a little poke then I suppose they should "bugger off!"
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They do have the kernel? I thought so but wasnt sure.
uhh... i'm a bit confused about the whole kernel thing regarding the hero.
i know that htc released the source code for the kernel... but i'm assuming that was the 2.6.27 right?
so i know that android 2.1 uses .29 to work, so how did the GSM hero people get that kernel and why don't we have a working .29 kernel for our phones?
please clarify?
justinisyoung said:
uhh... i'm a bit confused about the whole kernel thing regarding the hero.
i know that htc released the source code for the kernel... but i'm assuming that was the 2.6.27 right?
so i know that android 2.1 uses .29 to work, so how did the GSM hero people get that kernel and why don't we have a working .29 kernel for our phones?
please clarify?
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I believe its because they had the original leak of the 2.1 sense with the .29 kernel built in
YEAH! and they're just jealous that we have Obama and Starbucks so they're not sharing.
VoXHTC said:
YEAH! and they're just jealous that we have Obama and Starbucks so they're not sharing.
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well, it was not us that chose a network where your phone is tied to your contract... lmao'd when i heard that there are no simcards on cdma networks... come on guys, you can't be serious?
VoXHTC said:
YEAH! and they're just jealous that we have Obama and Starbucks so they're not sharing.
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Seriously? They can have Obama if they want him. I'll trade Obama for a Nexus One. Anyone? Anyone?
chuckhriczko said:
Seriously? They can have Obama if they want him. I'll trade Obama for a Nexus One. Anyone? Anyone?
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+1
I would like to try to put together a custom kernel for my Hero. But I am having trouble locating the .29 source. I synced up with http://android.git.kernel.org/kernel/common but that is the .27 branch. And most of the other stuff looks to be .27 as well. Is the only place to get the .29 source from the GSM hero? Thanks for any help.
gcardy said:
I would like to try to put together a custom kernel for my Hero. But I am having trouble locating the .29 source. I synced up with http://android.git.kernel.org/kernel/common but that is the .27 branch. And most of the other stuff looks to be .27 as well. Is the only place to get the .29 source from the GSM hero? Thanks for any help.
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I believe that is the only place to get the source. HTC hasn't released the cdma source yet. Is that our issue? Isn't it possible to use the gsm source?
found something helpful out
so when i run 'make menuconfig' front eh root directory of the HTC released .27 Hero source, under system type "Qualcomm MSM" is the system type. So when browsing through the link that I posted to the kernel git repo I found that there is a MSM branch, and it looks like it have some references to .29 and later kernel verions. Ill explore further and let you guys know.

moved on

imagine has been put off until the official sprint n1 is released.
thanks to those of you who have supported
screw the ones who haven't : -)
(reaction ui) playing off htc you dont need to get a phone but a phone that gets you
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Lol. I love how that will always be the first post on this thread. Good idea, I love it. Its definatly topping Mesmer. Are you interested?
Any takers?
where
are the devs at?!
yea if you think about it everyone deep downs wants a UI that reacts when they use it plain and simple...btw im in
i can code apps (3 in market) and widgets
Using Google Wave to collaborate on this project would work rather well.
sleejay said:
i can code apps (3 in market) and widgets
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Can you make widget as advanced as the Sense UI's? Also, as imaginative and as nice looking?
aauussttiinn88 said:
yea if you think about it everyone deep downs wants a UI that reacts when they use it plain and simple...btw im in
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What ar3e your areas os expertise?
I was just thinking about this earlier. It would also be awesome if someone was ever able to completely create a new OS. Haha,
rjj1976 said:
Using Google Wave to collaborate on this project would work rather well.
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Thanks for the suggestion...researching wave now, only skimmed, but it seems like this might be the next step, once we get the team together.
Any suggestions as far as the UI?
minorsecond said:
I was just thinking about this earlier. It would also be awesome if someone was ever able to completely create a new OS. Haha,
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Thanks. Want to get in on it?
My skills are rather limited but if there is anything that I can do I'll do it.
minorsecond said:
My skills are rather limited but if there is anything that I can do I'll do it.
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What are your skills limited to
How can we get some attention on this thread?
sinistermeshes said:
How can we get some attention on this thread?
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Put the [ROM] tag in front of the title, lol.
I'm limited in that I have no coding skill other than visual basic.
minorsecond said:
Put the [ROM] tag in front of the title, lol.
I'm limited in that I have no coding skill other than visual basic.
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Define visual basic?
Would the rom tag be cheating?
sinistermeshes said:
Define visual basic?
Would the rom tag be cheating?
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Yeah I wouldn't put the ROM tag on there, I was just kidding about that.
Visual Basic
It might help to offer a quick description of what related skills you are bringing to the table. Not being rude just a suggestion. It might also help avoid the 60 or so post in this thread asking that very question.
minorsecond said:
Yeah I wouldn't put the ROM tag on there, I was just kidding about that.
Visual Basic
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Interesting. How do you think you can use VB to better this UI? Widgets...the overall layout of the home screens? Specifics kind sir
And just for the record, being VB fluent is hardly limited

[Q] Gingerbread for Wildfire?

Ive read something about a new android, called Gingerbread 3.0.
Whats new in this, and will you awzm guys get it "ported" for the Wildfire?
Its 2.3 if i'm correct
2.3 and I'll be working on that **** as soon as it's available
HCDR.Jacob said:
2.3 and I'll be working on that **** as soon as it's available
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You re the best Jacob!!!
Whats the date??
demolition23 said:
You re the best Jacob!!!
Whats the date??
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Ask google
Sent from CM6 on my HTC Wildfire
HCDR.Jacob said:
2.3 and I'll be working on that **** as soon as it's available
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you mean wildfire can use 2.3 ?
If my wildfire can,
linkshao said:
you mean wildfire can use 2.3 ?
If my wildfire can,
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Not saying it can, just saying I'll try to get it going.
If it's possible, ill do it.
Sent from CM6 on my HTC Wildfire
you will be the king of wildfire community if you will do this=))
woname said:
you will be the king of wildfire community if you will do this=))
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Thought I already was ;D
I can't do it without source code so it'll probably be a month or so after Google's official announcement
The phone itself should have no problem running it in theory, however, the whole experience might (probably will) suck due to the lesser hardware in the Wildfire.
That is unless Google tweaked & performance tuned it and all its new features so that it does not require anything more powerful that the 2.2 does.
Sent from my browser, using the Reply button in the forums, lol.
Jacob you're awesome!
Iv'e heard that things like scrolling and stuff will be smoother, will it be on the Wildfire?
He said he'll try port it to the wildfire
I haven't rooted my wildfire yet, but maybe Gingerbread will change that
p0inte said:
The phone itself should have no problem running it in theory, however, the whole experience might (probably will) suck due to the lesser hardware in the Wildfire.
That is unless Google tweaked & performance tuned it and all its new features so that it does not require anything more powerful that the 2.2 does.
Sent from my browser, using the Reply button in the forums, lol.
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Funniest comment on XDA. BTW ur awesome Jacob. I hope Google doesn't specify u need hardware out the wazoo and stuff. I think Google wouldn't be so evil and let Gingerbread run smoothly on low-end hardware.
a1exander said:
Jacob you're awesome!
Iv'e heard that things like scrolling and stuff will be smoother, will it be on the Wildfire?
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no one knows until the source is released, me or jacob or someone else ported it and tried it out.. and yes I will try to beat jacob to be the first to port it for wildfire
adeadrat said:
no one knows until the source is released, me or jacob or someone else ported it and tried it out.. and yes I will try to beat jacob to be the first to port it for wildfire
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Or... OR maybe you guys can co-operate? xD
oh brilliant hoping my wildfire gets it
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Most official Wildfires still haven't got 2.2 yet so most like custom mods will be our only source for 2.3. I haven't seen much that is interesting in 2.3. As far as I can see it is going to bring updates that make android more tablet friendly.
a1exander said:
Or... OR maybe you guys can co-operate? xD
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More fun to be in a race.
adeadrat said:
no one knows until the source is released, me or jacob or someone else ported it and tried it out.. and yes I will try to beat jacob to be the first to port it for wildfire
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Heh, you're on ;D
To make it fair, you're starting from scratch, not using my stuff again ;D
Wonderful !!! ^^
Jackob WON! Congrats! Keep on the good work=)

[REQUEST] PNGs Finished! MIUI ROM for MDPI.

Devs,
Not sure if anyone has had the chance to take a look at this, but they've finished converting the PNGs from MIUI to MDPI. I know there's been a lot of hype over this ROM and I'm sure it would be a big hit with Eris users if someone decided to take a crack at it!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858935
This excites me so much.
I've been watching this Rom and everyone at the hero forums have done some amazing work. We have some incredible devs here who should give it a go
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looks sweet i would really like to see this hit the eris!!!!
keep it alive!
Nikolai2.1 said:
I've been watching this Rom and everyone at the hero forums have done some amazing work. We have some incredible devs here who should give it a go
Sent from my Froyo Tazz using XDA App
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Maybe you can ask tazz to take on another rom? lmao
From what I see, there isn't any source for it yet. Without that, porting is nearly impossible. It was designed for ARM7 cpu... so we'd need the source.
workshed said:
Maybe you can ask tazz to take on another rom? lmao
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i have bro ,, all it does it bootloop ,, something wrong with the images
This would be godly...
elitenls said:
This would be godly...
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its ok but my only question is ,, if u want ur phone to look iphoney ,, why not just buy a iphone? lol
My thoughts exactly.
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that would make a good t-shirt... iPHONY
tazzpatriot said:
its ok but my only question is ,, if u want ur phone to look iphoney ,, why not just buy a iphone? lol
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More like I have a droid so I have the option of theming(?) rather than being locked into one style for 2 years .
Smoothcrm7 said:
More like I have a droid so I have the option of theming(?) rather than being locked into one style for 2 years .
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^ That, or AT&T sucks, and I'd rather stick with Verizon so I stick with Android ... because, what else is there really. I'm one of the few [thousand or so] that would jump if I could *laugh* Until then, I try to get the most out of what I've got.
tazzpatriot said:
its ok but my only question is ,, if u want ur phone to look iphoney ,, why not just buy a iphone? lol
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I'm with you on that, but I do see some merit to a new UI keeping our Eris' fresh. Could be fun if somebody decides to pick it up.
dalladubb said:
I'm with you on that, but I do see some merit to a new UI keeping our Eris' fresh. Could be fun if somebody decides to pick it up.
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yea but its not new ui its just apks ,, we dont have the soirce for the real thing
tazzpatriot said:
yea but its not new ui its just apks ,, we dont have the soirce for the real thing
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Oh, disregard what I said about it then. On a phone as limited as the Eris the only way to make it truly fast is to do it from source.
Has anybody asked the devs to release the source? That is, if anybody wants to pick it up.
dalladubb said:
Oh, disregard what I said about it then. On a phone as limited as the Eris the only way to make it truly fast is to do it from source.
Has anybody asked the devs to release the source? That is, if anybody wants to pick it up.
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yes they were asked and as of now they were told no
Wow, way to act in the spirit of Android.
Somebody should grab a copy of the ROM and reverse engineer it just to mess with them.
dalladubb said:
Wow, way to act in the spirit of Android.
Somebody should grab a copy of the ROM and reverse engineer it just to mess with them.
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While I am all for open source and sharing this is more of an android overlay just like Sense and motoblur which we don't have the source for either.

[Q] Honeycomb on Hero?

can anybody port the 3.0 honeycomb version to our beloved Hero?
they did it to the G1/Magic, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RKEHfOwnSI&feature=player_embedded
any hope??
If there is a port to G1/Magic I guess that is possible a port to Hero..
RubenFreitas said:
If there is a port to G1/Magic I guess that is possible a port to Hero..
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there is a port, in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936874
hiato said:
there is a port, in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936874
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is this port working on hero ?
I would say try it.
rdejager said:
I would say try it.
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yea, let us know
it's certainly buildable for the hero - but most hardware will be broken I would imagine.
Sitting here, playing with an ugly port of the sdk, the first images,most just to remove my pin code so I can get into the system
yes elelinux!
do you think when the sources get released you would have much chance of building a full (or near full) working honeycomb rom?
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yes elelinux!
do you think when the sources get released you would have much chance of building a full (or near full) working honeycomb rom?
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I think it's possible, but it will not be easy. Especially because Honeycomb is made for tablets... and not for our phones.
If it's built from SDK I bet that almost none of the hardware is working...
mljjlm said:
If it's built from SDK I bet that almost none of the hardware is working...
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That is correct, but strangely all the backlighting of the buttons etc worked out of the box, buttons it is easy to fix if you want.
Just a little test for fun nothing else, also saw that there was support for mdpi so theoretically it could be working on Hero with some manual intervention.
Another thing to, boot up without problems
elelinux said:
That is correct, but strangely all the backlighting of the buttons etc worked out of the box, buttons it is easy to fix if you want.
Just a little test for fun nothing else, also saw that there was support for mdpi so theoretically it could be working on Hero with some manual intervention.
Another thing to, boot up without problems
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Wow, please make a rom for us to play with please. I cant believe the G1 has one and we dont.
maybe we are are asking too much on our hero....
but hey if it'll work then we shall have it
SENT FROM MY HTC HERO running GINGERBREAD by elelinux
elliotn said:
maybe we are are asking too much on our hero....
but hey if it'll work then we shall have it
SENT FROM MY HTC HERO running GINGERBREAD by elelinux
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????
the G1 is already running it!!!
hiato said:
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the G1 is already running it!!!
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Yes but hardly anything is working! Even the Nexus one has no audio,wifi,bluetooth,calls!
Yes, it is foolish to ask for a ROM that's meant to run on tablets to be made for phones. But I never have never said and never will say no to a new ROM...
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Yes it's going to run like ass and our screens won't do any good either.
But... as always, I'm eager to see what crazy stuff the ROM-people come up with.
but the sdk version includes some feature of switching from tablet to mobile mode by simply changing resolution... they won't have included it if it wasn't meant to be run on mobiles, and in 3.1, mobile (2.x) and tablet (3.0) development lines shall be joined (says wikipedia lol). moreover, lots of people out here said it would be impossible to run 2.2 and 2.3 on hero, and right now i'm looking at my rooted android 2.3 hero which is incredibly smooth and stable (way better than with stock os). so why shouldn't it be possible? ele just said even backlight of the buttons worked out of the box, which was not case in 2.x. i'm still believing in our developers (although i can't code well enough to support them ) and i'm sure they'll do some magic
greets, Summoner
Do you really use wikipedia for truths? Anyone can add to Wiki?!
no i don't... i just think it sounds possible... otherwise, there would be two future development lines which the consequence would be that there were VERY different features depending where more / the better devs work on lol^^
i didn't claim it was the absolute truth, otherwise i wouldn't have explicitly said it came from wiki ...
greets Summoner

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