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Experiences with Evo/Sprint?

I've been getting fed up with T-Mobile lately, the coverage at my house is limited, if not non-existent.
I was wondering if anyone would care to share their experiences with Sprint's network (4g speeds/coverage, reliability, etc). Also, experiences with the Evo itself (battery life, durabilty, accessory quality/quantity, etc)
I'm currently using a Nexus One, if that makes a difference.
Thanks!

Seems like your biggest issue is your coverage at your house. Best advice I can give you is go get an EVO, go home, check to see if you have good signal and 4G.

U can download map viewer from the market check the Sprint 4g coverage
And as for battery life it was not until I rooted that I felt I was getting the most out of it my battery life dramatically changed
And I've had nothing but a good experience I came from a moment so honestly tht was not the best Android experience so this phone have to say im really surprised by this device and what it can do if u have played around with one it really is not the same as owning it and since Sprint has the 3o day money back guarantee u should defin try itout and see if its for u
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jesziicuh said:
U can download map viewer from the market check the Sprint 4g coverage
And as for battery life it was not until I rooted that I felt I was getting the most out of it my battery life dramatically changed
And I've had nothing but a good experience I came from a moment so honestly tht was not the best Android experience so this phone have to say im really surprised by this device and what it can do if u have played around with one it really is not the same as owning it and since Sprint has the 3o day money back guarantee u should defin try itout and see if its for u
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Punctuation is so overrated these days.
You will love an Evo, Sprint is a great company and the customer service has come a long way.
Try it for 30 days free, if not satisfied then return it, (yes you can root it and still return it)

wdfowty said:
I've been getting fed up with T-Mobile lately, the coverage at my house is limited, if not non-existent.
I was wondering if anyone would care to share their experiences with Sprint's network (4g speeds/coverage, reliability, etc). Also, experiences with the Evo itself (battery life, durabilty, accessory quality/quantity, etc)
I'm currently using a Nexus One, if that makes a difference.
Thanks!
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Sprint actually has pretty good coverage in the San Francisco area. It's really hard to build new towers there nowadays so younger networks (T-Mobile) or older networks that are now overloaded (AT&T) have a really tough time working well there.
I suggest you take advantage of Sprint's 30-day unconditional return policy and test drive the EVO 4G for a few weeks. If you don't like it, or it doesn't work well for you, you can return the device and pay nothing (no restock fee or prorated usage fee, or anything).

Reiterating what others have said, signal in your home/area is going to vary, and your best bet is to try it out.
Sometimes while you are in the 30 day window, if you try to cancel due to lack of signal in your home the store will offer the signal booster thingy (I can't remember the name) and wave the monthly fee. It connects to your router and essentially gives you a tower in your home over the internet.
As for the EVO, I've had a Hero and a T-Mobile G1, and I love the EVO. It does everything I want, and then some. Rooting is key though, and I think the best battery life comes from the custom roms on these forums.
Give it a go for 30 days without canceling your T-Mobile phone. At the worst, you'll pay for a month of service on both lines. Once you test it out though and determine Sprint is the way to go, you can transfer your number from T-Mobile.
Oh, and 4G sucks the battery from your phone, so it's really rather useless in my opinion, unless you're tethering and plugged in, otherwise it's as good as a cable connection.

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U can download map viewer from the market check the Sprint 4g coverage...
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This map is crap. The map indicates that I have excellent coverage at home and work and is not so. Do what tgruendler said. Get the phone, take it home and test it and see what you think.

When I first got my Evo a lot of people I knew were saying "it's a nice phone and all, but you had to go to SPRINT?"
Now the Evo also marks my maiden voyage with Sprint, so I don't know the history that may have gotten them this bad rep ... but I have to say I've been nothing but pleased. I bought my phone a mere 2 weeks before my road trip across 4 states in 3 weeks (started in Georgia and ended up in Washington DC). During the ENTIRE road trip I had signal. Now I didn't call people, but I did use google maps and Nav and I maintained data the entire time (some minor blackouts in Mentone Alabama looking for an old friend's wedding ... but if you saw where I was you'd completely understand too ... and GMaps still got me there fine).
So while during this trip I saw 4G go up and down ... I will say their data was consistent. I uploaded photos to facebook nightly, took pictures all day, and even occasionally handed the phone to the kids to stream you tube videos (OK I had to plug in for that ... phone can't handle 4-6 hours straight youtube).
My only complaint with this phone while on 2.1 an touring ... was that 4G would destroy my phone (only when connected ... 4G seemed to idle fine in areas with no coverage). By destroy i mean that doing the same heavy uploading of images would kill the phone in about 4 hours.
Now back in the home land of LA ... vacation is over and I'm making more calls than you tube videos. In this case it's more of a Sprint vs ATT conversation (my old provider) and I have to say: Sprints coverage blows away ATT in all areas here. I consult .... meaning i travel all corners of the southland. While Sprint may have bad signal reception occasionally ... it _never_ disconnects. In contrast my ATT signal was always clear .... when it bothered to connect and would disconnect _constantly_ even when driving down major highways. So I like the Sprint service much better.
My Phone has "evolved" with me which is huge. 4G is now here where I live ... but I've also learned to root and tweak my EVO ... and I leave 4G on all day now and can make it from wake up to home with the wife and kids on one charge without having to plug in (I do tend to car charge every so often if i know I'm going to be on a long conference call or can't resist flashing a new ROM during my lunch break ... but that's not suprising). Between 2.2 improvements and wonderful after market ROMs and tweaks, the EVO isn't nearly as bad of a battery vacuum as it was when I first got it so it's to the point that I just leave all the features enabled (except wifi ... i don't see a point when 4g is faster than _any_ free wifi spot that is always over congested).
The ONLY thing I really don't like about Sprint is that i don't get voice and data at the same time. 4G fixes that (another reason i leave it on all the time)... but it's coverage is honestly spotty ... unlike Sprint 3G this one really is location sensitive.
The phone itself ... is awesome. I just can't complain as it still feels cutting edge after 6 months of having it (or is it 7 now ... i forget).
Summary: the battery used to be BAD with 4g turned on. 2.2 improvements and a good community changed all of that... and the phone is flexible and powerful enough that I don't care what's been released sense. I would love a longer battery life (who wouldn't), but considering I basically have a PC in my Pocket I'm OK with that trade off.
EDIT: one other negative I should note: I noticed with the stock HTC ROM having 4G turned on would occasionally make the whole phone stutter and lag, even when doing trivial things like scrolling between home screens. It would actually made the phone feel slower with 4g turned on if i wasn't directly doing a data intesive task. Custom ROMs _completely_ solved that problem. For the record i currently use Myn's Warm 2.2 RLS4 on the HTC17 kernel with the battery tweak, and all sense ripped out I could get away with (rosie pulled out compeltely, gingerbread keyboard, etc), and those stutters are a thing of the past.

Fantastic phone! Great network. Sprint is working hard to improve the quality of their customer service and doing a good job. They have already rolled out WiMax, so if you are in a coverage area you should be getting some pretty snappy speeds there. I also like the fact that Sprint isn't afraid to look at other technologies. I read an article the other day indicating that Sprint will probably begin developing an LTE network to work alongside the WiMax. All things considered, I would definitely recommend the Evo and Sprint

Pierceye said:
Fantastic phone! Great network. Sprint is working hard to improve the quality of their customer service and doing a good job. They have already rolled out WiMax, so if you are in a coverage area you should be getting some pretty snappy speeds there. I also like the fact that Sprint isn't afraid to look at other technologies. I read an article the other day indicating that Sprint will probably begin developing an LTE network to work alongside the WiMax. All things considered, I would definitely recommend the Evo and Sprint
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Yeah - I couldnt have said it better my self...
Been with Sprint now for 9 years and have no complaints, they are like brandy - only getting better with age...
EVO is by far the best phone out there and Sprint is (IMO) by far the best carrier out there...

wdfowty said:
I've been getting fed up with T-Mobile lately, the coverage at my house is limited, if not non-existent.
I was wondering if anyone would care to share their experiences with Sprint's network (4g speeds/coverage, reliability, etc). Also, experiences with the Evo itself (battery life, durabilty, accessory quality/quantity, etc)
I'm currently using a Nexus One, if that makes a difference.
Thanks!
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hey i had tmobile< i had the blackberry 9700 and an unlocked iphone i loved the phones but the coverage was horrible inside buildings, i went to best buy and got an evo on a temp number and carried both my phones around and sprint was gret in buildings or where ever i went u should go get the evo and test like i did

jesziicuh said:
U can download map viewer from the market check the Sprint 4g coverage
And as for battery life it was not until I rooted that I felt I was getting the most out of it my battery life dramatically changed
And I've had nothing but a good experience I came from a moment so honestly tht was not the best Android experience so this phone have to say im really surprised by this device and what it can do if u have played around with one it really is not the same as owning it and since Sprint has the 3o day money back guarantee u should defin try itout and see if its for u
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Oh wow. -.-
Not one period in all of the rambling and misspellings/retarded text speak. Please act like you have an education. kthnx.

thetakara said:
Oh wow. -.-
Not one period in all of the rambling and misspellings/retarded text speak. Please act like you have an education. kthnx.
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So, you came in here SOLELY to flame that kid? Hahaha
@everyone else: Thanks! All great info. Once I get the cash together I'll test it out for sure.

thetakara said:
Oh wow. -.-
Not one period in all of the rambling and misspellings/retarded text speak. Please act like you have an education. kthnx.
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Hey no reason to be grumpy
I type quick used to jus doing tht way
And I honestly think ignite have nothing nice to say Dnt say it
But hey I guess it take one to kno one
Have a nice night kthnks
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wdfowty said:
So, you came in here SOLELY to flame that kid? Hahaha
@everyone else: Thanks! All great info. Once I get the cash together I'll test it out for sure.
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Yea a lot of grumpy people on here but also a lot of nice people who can actually offer help instead of nasty remarks blah but way r u gonna do any way good luck and happy holidays
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Not having a signal at home isn't an issue if you're with Sprint. When my wife and I moved into our new house back in May, we found out a little too late that our house was in a dead zone and there was absolutely no signal inside on any carrier. We had to step outside to make a call or send a text. After a couple months, I called Sprint and told them what was up. Without question, they offered me a free Airave. No equipment cost, no monthly charges. All they asked was that I send it back to them if I ever leave Sprint in the future. We both get full signal in every room of the house now.

iamthebigcheeze said:
Not having a signal at home isn't an issue if you're with Sprint. When my wife and I moved into our new house back in May, we found out a little too late that our house was in a dead zone and there was absolutely no signal inside on any carrier. We had to step outside to make a call or send a text. After a couple months, I called Sprint and told them what was up. Without question, they offered me a free Airave. No equipment cost, no monthly charges. All they asked was that I send it back to them if I ever leave Sprint in the future. We both get full signal in every room of the house now.
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O wow really I'm kinda in a similar situation jus moved to a new area like 3 months ago and I get zero reception unless I'm near a window and hanging out of it lol guess ill have to call sprint
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jesziicuh said:
O wow really I'm kinda in a similar situation jus moved to a new area like 3 months ago and I get zero reception unless I'm near a window and hanging out of it lol guess ill have to call sprint
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Yeah, I was pretty surprised. I didn't have to beg, argue, or demand anything. As soon as I told them what was up, the dude just asked if it would be okay if they sent me one for free. Uh... yeah, that's okay with me! lol

I'm in an area far from 4G coverage (Southern Illinois) but after 10 years with Sprint I've been nothing but pleased. I've gotten free upgrades, free features, and all sorts of perks from some very helpful customer service people. On top of that I've never had a billing issue (unlike nearly everyone else I know on a certain other network). The only issue I have is I don't particularly care for their website, but that's just me.
As for the EVO, I upgrade from the Hero two weeks ago and I LOVE it. I definitely don't regret getting it.

Oh, another thing I like about Sprint: When I call customer service, 9 times out of 10 I'm connected to somebody in CONUS and not someone with English as a 3rd language. lol

sprint and coverage?

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So I looked at sprints coverage map again, and noticed that same as before for me, they show I should have full bar 4G coverage on my 1 acre property. I don't get any 4G at all until I go down the street a couple hundred feet.
I called them tonight, finally pissed off about it, and the first guy told me tough sh!t, that coverage maps were a total guestimate and didn't matter. Finally ending up talking to this girl who actually helped me out. She told me I would need to go by a sprint repair shop, thankfully one is 2 mins down the road from where I work, and have them check it out, and if they say it is fine, or replace my phone, and I still cannot connect, they will see what can be done next.
Background.
At first they went to tell me about the 30 days and so forth. I pointed out how I broke a $300 ETF to move to sprint, and then paid another 200 for my phone, and another 120 for my bill, all within the first 30 days of start of service with sprint. I also pointed out that the moment I did that, I lost my unlimited data plan with AT&T.
So I have unrooted my phone, and I am sad cause my phone feels so lame running stock sense 2.2 when I had a awesome 2.3.2 CM7 and will be like that until I go by the sprint store tomorrow evening. So I am hoping they somehow make good on their end when I get back home, and still get no 4G coverage, just like the other 4 evos that have been at my house my friends have get no coverage.
anyone else have issues like this? I was really just ranting cause I want to either have 4G or a carrier that I actually get 4G with at my house, when they say I will.
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You ever look at clears maps? They're a lot more detailed.
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david279 said:
You ever look at clears maps? They're a lot more detailed.
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they were different about a month ago, checked last night and they match to a T for where I live.

you're not going to get sympathy...err...just leave sprint and get a thunderbolt. 4G with sprint sucks anyways. I get faster 3G most of the time.

aweskelo said:
you're not going to get sympathy...err...just leave sprint and get a thunderbolt. 4G with sprint sucks anyways. I get faster 3G most of the time.
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i am on the phone with sprint right now trying to terminate my contract without an ETF since I was lied to about coverage. They are sending me to "account services" right now to talk about it. I have been lied to and run in circles so many times trying to fix this issue. It is making me so mad.
doesn't help I haven't slept in like 30 hours lol.

nosympathy said:
i am on the phone with sprint right now trying to terminate my contract without an ETF since I was lied to about coverage. They are sending me to "account services" right now to talk about it. I have been lied to and run in circles so many times trying to fix this issue. It is making me so mad.
doesn't help I haven't slept in like 30 hours lol.
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Good luck. Let me know how it goes. I'm trying to figure out why coverage sucks so much at my house, despite both Clear and Sprint's 4g coverage maps claiming I should have good coverage.
Cheers

mylasthope said:
Good luck. Let me know how it goes. I'm trying to figure out why coverage sucks so much at my house, despite both Clear and Sprint's 4g coverage maps claiming I should have good coverage.
Cheers
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well I ended up going way up sprint somehow. And eventually I talked to some manager who started cursing me out and calling me names and lying to my face. He said the only reason I have connection problems at my house was because I don't turn my phone off for extended periods of time during the day. lol... Needless to say I had his manager listen to that call and next thing I know I have no ETF, a sprint EVO 4G to sell, and an HTC thunderbolt that is so fast it isn't funny.

Congrats-what's the speed tests showing so far on average?
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feels like im being swindled

so i guess i shouldve come here and read more about the ns4g before i even got one. the reason why? the reception of course. and when i call sprint wanting to return it it sounds like they will say anything to get you to keep it.
the store i ordered it from (they were out of stock but had one sent to my house 2 days later) wouldnt take it back because "the manager sold it to me and only he can do the returns/exchanges for the items he sells"
so then i called sprint and they wanted to give me an airave. why would i want that? i didnt need it with my evo why should i need it now? because the ns4g has issues thats why.
so then i did some searching around and found out theres 3 "open tickets" in illinois. so of course after they ask my zip code they find it in there as one of the affected.
is the issue on this phone so bad and they sold so many that everyone wants to return them?
i got the feeling sprint doesnt want it back because they know it might not get sold again or something.
i dont know im just disappointed in both the phone and the way i was being handled. i really dont want to pay verizon prices and tmobile isnt that much cheaper in fact is now more then what im paying for my plan

I felt the same way with a fascinate from Verizon. Fortunately I returned it. I think that if you look around here longer, you might find some answers to your problems. I found that Samsung didn't meet my expectations, but hope you can mod it to your satisfaction....
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JeramyEggs said:
I felt the same way with a fascinate from Verizon. Fortunately I returned it. I think that if you look around here longer, you might find some answers to your problems. I found that Samsung didn't meet my expectations, but hope you can mod it to your satisfaction....
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Not sure what is up with the Samsung hate. The Fascinate isn't Samsung's fault. That is completely Verizon's fault. Other SGS do not have the problems the Fascinate has.
I do not own an SNS4G (I've got a T-mobile 3G). I love my phone and feel it has a higher build quality than "better" HTC and Motorola phones (note that heavy and/or metal backs do not equal quality).

I don't know what the issue is with the Nexus S 4g but my Nexus S is amazing, battery life I great and I listen to music a lot, the keyboard is amazing and to top it all off you get Netflix! I would imagine the quality on Netflix over 4g would be amazing! Why people hate on Samsung is beyond me, at least they aren't HTC making overpriced Evos. Still give the Nexus S 4G a try, whatever issues you have with it ask on here and maybe there are solutions that you might not even know about. Trust me, no device on the market can beat the Nexus S, simply because of Stock Android. It really makes the device fly, even after not turning it off in weeks it runs smooth as silk.
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every issue im having is the same that others are having. **** reception

Smokexz said:
I don't know what the issue is with the Nexus S 4g but my Nexus S is amazing, battery life I great and I listen to music a lot, the keyboard is amazing and to top it all off you get Netflix! I would imagine the quality on Netflix over 4g would be amazing! Why people hate on Samsung is beyond me, at least they aren't HTC making overpriced Evos. Still give the Nexus S 4G a try, whatever issues you have with it ask on here and maybe there are solutions that you might not even know about. Trust me, no device on the market can beat the Nexus S, simply because of Stock Android. It really makes the device fly, even after not turning it off in weeks it runs smooth as silk.
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I think you misread, he already has a Nexus S 4g and is having signal issues like others.

hellcatt said:
every issue im having is the same that others are having. **** reception
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I had the NS4G for a few weeks - the reception is awful. I am outside of Chicago and in "best" coverage areas for 3G and 4G and would get 1 bar at best most of the time. Downtown coverage was good, but the signal strength compared to other Sprint devices was just poor.
If you picked up the device new or on a contract you have 14 days to return it - they cannot deny you that return in that window. If you purchased outright you have 30. Don't let them hassle you - go into the store and tell them you are returning the device. On your receipt (or received with your purchase) you should have a document explaining the exact return policy and timeline.

krohnjw said:
I had the NS4G for a few weeks - the reception is awful. I am outside of Chicago and in "best" coverage areas for 3G and 4G and would get 1 bar at best most of the time. Downtown coverage was good, but the signal strength compared to other Sprint devices was just poor.
If you picked up the device new or on a contract you have 14 days to return it - they cannot deny you that return in that window. If you purchased outright you have 30. Don't let them hassle you - go into the store and tell them you are returning the device. On your receipt (or received with your purchase) you should have a document explaining the exact return policy and timeline.
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it was an "upgrade" so i do have 30 days. supposedly theres a tower outage thats affecting crest hill, fairfield, plainfeild, romeoville(where i am) and lockport plus a few more. the peoblem is that issue started on the 12th and is still ongoing.
i really want to keep this phone but if not and the tower issue isnt fixed by the 28th day im gonna jump ship. ill just have to figure out that unroot trick, it makes no sense to me. someone needs to make everything 1-click for idiots
how good is tmobiles service? do you ever go south like wilmington area or grundy county?

That excuse about the manager being the only one who can return it sounds like b.s....
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of course it is. and the guy knows im rooted too so i have to figure out how to un root it
oh and since i woke up ive been roaming......in my house. maybe i need to do some tethering today.

hellcatt said:
it was an "upgrade" so i do have 30 days. supposedly theres a tower outage thats affecting crest hill, fairfield, plainfeild, romeoville(where i am) and lockport plus a few more. the peoblem is that issue started on the 12th and is still ongoing.
i really want to keep this phone but if not and the tower issue isnt fixed by the 28th day im gonna jump ship. ill just have to figure out that unroot trick, it makes no sense to me. someone needs to make everything 1-click for idiots
how good is tmobiles service? do you ever go south like wilmington area or grundy county?
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Service with T-Mobile is actually pretty good. In and around chicago you are set. In the Joliet, Plainfield, Crest Hill area service is great - data speeds are usually 2-5mpbs on speed tests. I almost always have full coverage. I don't have any issues with dropped calls or texts. Time is spent between the Chicago Area, Rolling Meadows/Schaumburg and Joliet/Plainfield/Naperville.
I travel through Wilmington to visit family and always have service (Even in fairly rural areas in Irquois county). Somewhere between 55 and 57 you'll drop to edge, but service remains good.
hellcatt said:
of course it is. and the guy knows im rooted too so i have to figure out how to un root it
oh and since i woke up ive been roaming......in my house. maybe i need to do some tethering today.
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Unrooting is easy.
Grab this set of images and extract. If you have the SDK tools dir in your PATH then you can just cd to the extracted directory. If not then drop the files into the tools dir with fastboot.
http://wonderly.com/bb/CRESPO4G/OEM/GRJ22IMAGES.zip
Then:
Wipe your SD card.
Boot into bootloader manually or via ADB
From the command prompt:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash userdata userdata.img
fastboot erase cache
fastboot oem lock
You may get an error overwriting userdata - if you do you can just fastboot erase userdata
That's it.

what you wrote
krohnjw said:
Service with T-Mobile is actually pretty good. In and around chicago you are set. In the Joliet, Plainfield, Crest Hill area service is great - data speeds are usually 2-5mpbs on speed tests. I almost always have full coverage. I don't have any issues with dropped calls or texts. Time is spent between the Chicago Area, Rolling Meadows/Schaumburg and Joliet/Plainfield/Naperville.
I travel through Wilmington to visit family and always have service (Even in fairly rural areas in Irquois county). Somewhere between 55 and 57 you'll drop to edge, but service remains good.
Unrooting is easy.
Grab this set of images and extract. If you have the SDK tools dir in your PATH then you can just cd to the extracted directory. If not then drop the files into the tools dir with fastboot.
http://wonderly.com/bb/CRESPO4G/OEM/GRJ22IMAGES.zip
Then:
Wipe your SD card.
Boot into bootloader manually or via ADB
From the command prompt:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash userdata userdata.img
fastboot erase cache
fastboot oem lock
You may get an error overwriting userdata - if you do you can just fastboot erase userdata
That's it.
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what i read.........
unrooting is easy.
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lol. i guess i just have to try and figure some of this stuff out. i have sdk, dont know what it does or how to use it. dont know if i have adb and probably wouldnt know what to do with it if i did. i have qpst and again dont know what it does or how to use it.
but thanks for the tmoblie info, i have a lil summer place in braidwood and i know the sprint signal is better there then in romeoville tho theres no 4g and thats where i do most tethering.

I have a sprint ns4g. Wherever I go I get the same signal quality as all my coworkers with evos and heros. I'm not sure but there has to be some differences in built versions.
My time without signal is usually 5% or less. I don't get it. I wish I had someone in the same spot as I am so we can compare two nexus phones side by side.
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I returned mine and got the evo 3d no signal issues what so ever. Also, the Evo 3d is just as smooth even with sense.

I went from a evo to the ns4g and love it. My signal is great, no dropped calls yet and my home office is in my basement, used to drop at least one call a week on the evo. battery life is incredible compared to my evo. I have not problem at all going a full day of normal usage on a full charge. i was lucky to get 5 hours on my evo. I did think about exchanging it for the evo 3d but decided not too, the size of the ns4g is perfect, the evo felt to big and heavy for me. everything i read about the 3d is that the battery sucks worse than the evo. battery is the most important thing to me in a phone. I would rather have the updates right away and forget the sense, i hate that crap.
btw, when i did my yearly upgrade i did try the htc arrive at 1st because i wanted to check out the windows phone, and sprint did give me a hard time at 1st on the exchange. with a little *****ing they took it back and waved the 35.00 restocking fee. you just have to be firm with them. I always deal with telephone sales, never the store, its much easier to get someone with authority. 2 years ago they even exchanged one for me after the 30 day period. I got the palm pre and hated it. it wasn't an official exchange, they sold me a bb curve for 199.00 and had me send the pre back on the sprint buyback and got 150 through that. not too bad since i was past the 30 day period. Just ask for the escalation department.

well im pretty sure that my home signal issues are due to a still open ticket which was opened on the 12th in my general area.
yesterday 30 miles south of me in the small town boonies my signal was 3 and 4 bars @ -76db and -65dbm with blazing old school 3g. i dont use speedtest or anything but it was fast as hell, yet no 4g down there.
and l was also 15 miles west of home in a more densly populated area and signal was just as good there.

I live in nampa Idaho and we have excellent sprint coverage here and I still have signal issues. On the evo I almost always had full bars. My nexus rarely has more than one bar.
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well im pretty sure that my home signal issues are due to a still open ticket which was opened on the 12th in my general area.
yesterday 30 miles south of me in the small town boonies my signal was 3 and 4 bars @ -76db and -65dbm with blazing old school 3g. i dont use speedtest or anything but it was fast as hell, yet no 4g down there.
and l was also 15 miles west of home in a more densly populated area and signal was just as good there.
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Crippled 4G Internet Speeds

I rooted my phone months ago and I think ever since I did, my 4G internet speeds have been very low - like .30 mbps download and .10 mbps upload according to the Speednet test.
I've tried every radio in the radio thread and even went back to the stock ROM ( rooted ) and it remained the same. Does anyone have any suggestions ?
Everything else works 100%.

Sound like you got throttled-tmo has a 5 gig cap per month before you get throttled-Check your data usage for the month. Think if you switch to 2g its a little faster, otherwise you have to wait till your next billing cycle starts

While it may sound like I'm throttled, that isn't what's goin' on cause I've talked to T-Mobile and I'm well below my 2 GB limit. I appreciate your reply anyway.

I haven't been here in a while since I got the Samsung galaxy s2.. I have to agree with you.. You are not throttled. I have been experiencing the same problem even with both phones.. I changed sim cards like three times already. So what I did was called t-mobile they filed a report to the tech engineers to check the towers and their systems will take about 72hrs. So ill be calling back tomorrow (1/16/2012)to find out if they fixed the towers like I was told..the towers might be affecting my speed.. So call them and explain to them and see if they can do the same for you...
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That's funny cause I actually went through that with T-Mobile as well. Eventually they told me it's a problem with my phone. **** this.
Do you live in New Jersey ?

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That's funny cause I actually went through that with T-Mobile as well. Eventually they told me it's a problem with my phone. **** this.
Do you live in New Jersey ?
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No, close, am in nyc, close to Manhattan/Brooklyn...Just tell them a customer/friend has also called and complained about this same situation. i took off work on friday, after dr. appointment, i went to t mobile retail store and we did a test, troubleshooting etc, and nothing...so if they tell you it's your phone what do they expect you to do, exchange your phone, it's ridiculous.. i have both mt4g and samsung galaxy s2, both experiencing the same problems, i told them, actually had a small argument with them, but i'm just waiting for tomorrow and hear what BullSh*t they going to tell me...just make sure if you end up going to tmobile retail store to unroot your phone.. if they ask you to go to a tmobile store..
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Ill be the first to hit your thanks

Yea, I've been through all that. Let me know what they say

Spoke to them and they still working on it. So we might get a text or check with them later...
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Well they called me today telling me the engineers are still working on it...
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Can you try someone else's SIM in your phone and vice-versa? That narrows it down to the phone or the account.
Last time I went to the States when the prepaid $1.49 day pass still existed, I was being throttled from the moment I entered the country despite not even having a chance to accrue 30 MB of usage. On the second day I bought a new pass and was still throttled. I went to a T-Mobile store and they had nothing to suggest other than that they could try to reset the data (?) on my account. I wanted to try the store's SIMs in my phone or vice versa but they told me all the sample phones had their battery covers glued on so customers couldn't walk away with the SIMs due to a high-theft area.
Anyway, on that second day I used a lot despite the throttling, and in the evening I got a text that I just hit 30 MB and would be throttled. Finally on the third day, when I bought a new pass I had full speed.

No.. T-mobile has acknowledged that they have the problem.. My girlfriend also have the same problem..I will wait till its fixed..I've changed my simply card 3x already..lol
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I called 'em today and just pressed the issue further. I can only think it's their network or towers around here cause when I speed test it now, it could download at 6 Mbps or 0.25 Mbps, so I'm taking that as a sign of them working on it.
I got 'em to take $80 off my bill a couple weeks ago because this is bull****. IT's a been a long time, but I never noticed cause I usually use WiFi and I just downloaded the speedtest.net app like a month ago.
I told them I don't care if they fix it tomorrow, I'm still gonna move on and do business with a different company as soon as I can. Every time I see that silly long armed ***** on their commercial boasting about their 4G speeds, I wanna close my account.

Verizon Note 3 Signal - Is it that bad? POLL

So i have the chance to pick up a N3 today, but I have heard there are issues with signal on the device. How bad is it? I talked to my buddy with one the other day and he was cutting in and out. Is this a major issue with them overall? Thanks

My signal is superb. Best phone signal ive ever had are this Note 3 and the S4 before it
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I see it this way...many ppl report issues with WiFi in particular but it's an issue with router and/or the channel that's being used. Matching the channel via the app Wifi Analyzer can assist with quickly fixing said issue
However, I voted yes to your poll because 4G signal works, but not consistently when on the train where AT&T would be a better network(at least with my Note 2) over the course of a 30 mile commute. This is in the Philadelphia area where I live, might be regional
Bottom line, I'm switching from Verizon to AT&T asap because it's cheaper, more reliable across town, and faster speedtest.net results in Phila area

Experience that applies
I'm in Ohio too (Go Bucks!) and I purchased 2 Galaxy Note 3s at the same time. Mine is phenomenal! The best cell reception of any phone I've ever seen. I truly can't go on enough about how this phone is the best I've seen out of about 15 phones.
My wife's phone is the opposite. She has had issues from day one. I just took her phone back to the Samsung reps at Best Buy Monday and they 'reflashed' the factory ROM from a laptop while I waited. The Rep, who spent most of the time I was there asking me questions about the N3, didn't seem like he knew that much about the phone. He said he's seen a handful of N3's come back and reflashing the factory rom seems to fix it. He did say that they were all the Verizon version. I don't trust too much of what he said, as I said, he clearly knew less about the phone and phones in general than I did.
Now having said all that. His flash did not fix the problem. We've been in multiple places where my wife's phone cannot make or receive calls while mine standing next to her has no issues. I truly believed it to be a software issue because it will show the same signal strength as mine. Or darn near the same. The last time I checked, mine was -93dBm while hers was -95dBm. Mine would call out, hers would not.
The Samsung Rep told me to bring it back in and they're going to swap it out as a defective product. Maybe it's because hers is the white model and mine is the black? Just kidding of course... but I am going to ask for her to get the rose gold model instead of the white, just because she's girlie and will like it.
Having said all this... I would not hesitate to recommend this phone to anyone and everyone. I do so on a regular basis. I believe this to be an unusual situation, not the norm. I think you should get it and if you notice any troubles, take it back and make them work it out. The phone is THAT good that it's worth the risk of possible hassle to get it right.

Jackseric said:
I'm in Ohio too (Go Bucks!) and I purchased 2 Galaxy Note 3s at the same time. Mine is phenomenal! The best cell reception of any phone I've ever seen. I truly can't go on enough about how this phone is the best I've seen out of about 15 phones.
My wife's phone is the opposite. She has had issues from day one. I just took her phone back to the Samsung reps at Best Buy Monday and they 'reflashed' the factory ROM from a laptop while I waited. The Rep, who spent most of the time I was there asking me questions about the N3, didn't seem like he knew that much about the phone. He said he's seen a handful of N3's come back and reflashing the factory rom seems to fix it. He did say that they were all the Verizon version. I don't trust too much of what he said, as I said, he clearly knew less about the phone and phones in general than I did.
Now having said all that. His flash did not fix the problem. We've been in multiple places where my wife's phone cannot make or receive calls while mine standing next to her has no issues. I truly believed it to be a software issue because it will show the same signal strength as mine. Or darn near the same. The last time I checked, mine was -93dBm while hers was -95dBm. Mine would call out, hers would not.
The Samsung Rep told me to bring it back in and they're going to swap it out as a defective product. Maybe it's because hers is the white model and mine is the black? Just kidding of course... but I am going to ask for her to get the rose gold model instead of the white, just because she's girlie and will like it.
Having said all this... I would not hesitate to recommend this phone to anyone and everyone. I do so on a regular basis. I believe this to be an unusual situation, not the norm. I think you should get it and if you notice any troubles, take it back and make them work it out. The phone is THAT good that it's worth the risk of possible hassle to get it right.
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Thanks for the detailed response. My only issue here is Im trading my LG G2 for the N3 (craigslist), so it wont be just as easy as walking into the store and swapping it out. Which is what has me worried. G2 is an awesome phone, just ready to have a new toy until the S5 drops.

jmill75 said:
Thanks for the detailed response. My only issue here is Im trading my LG G2 for the N3 (craigslist), so it wont be just as easy as walking into the store and swapping it out. Which is what has me worried. G2 is an awesome phone, just ready to have a new toy until the S5 drops.
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Just get the insurance and you should be fine. Good luck!

jmill75 said:
Thanks for the detailed response. My only issue here is Im trading my LG G2 for the N3 (craigslist), so it wont be just as easy as walking into the store and swapping it out. Which is what has me worried. G2 is an awesome phone, just ready to have a new toy until the S5 drops.
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I would encourage you to do the trade right in the Verizon store, even if Big Red won't get a dime. Here's why:
- both parties can get the IMEIs checked by Verizon to make sure that they are clean
- both parties can transfer the other phone immediately to their own account.
There have been a couple incidents reported here where folks bought phones off of craigslist, and - failing to register the phone to their account - later found their phones reported stolen. (Meaning, they suddenly had a worthless deactivated phone) That can only happen out of your control if you don't have it registered to your account.
Not only that, but if your counterparty refuses to meet you in a Verizon store, you will know that something is not square.
Good luck

Coming fomr a Verizon Galaxy Nexus in a good 4G coverage area, band 4, I have zero issues. In fact my speeds over 4G increased significantly compared to my Galaxy Nexus, and WiFi is as fast as ever.
Like any phone Your Mileage Will Vary, but I'd recommend this phone to anyone, even if I didn't like them, it's that good.

Signal is nearly always strong and phone is always fast!
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Big Cam said:
Coming fomr a Verizon Galaxy Nexus in a good 4G coverage area, band 4, I have zero issues. In fact my speeds over 4G increased significantly compared to my Galaxy Nexus, and WiFi is as fast as ever.
Like any phone Your Mileage Will Vary, but I'd recommend this phone to anyone, even if I didn't like them, it's that good.
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Yes but that phone was a big turd
Worst phone for reception/battery EVER.

jmill75 said:
Yes but that phone was a big turd
Worst phone for reception/battery EVER.
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I have never heard that. I loved the phone, Pure Android is the way to go for Rooting and Romming, but the battery life was SOOOO bad. I just assumed that was the way it was.
The Note 3 is leaps and bounds over the Galaxy Nexus. I'm happy you told me that, now I don't feel like I was wrong for *****ing about it. :laugh:

jmill75 said:
Yes but that phone was a big turd
Worst phone for reception/battery EVER.
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I came to the N3 from that phone too. I LOVED that phone for the ease of rooting/flashing... but you're right. Both battery and reception was terrible.

My phone, data and WIFI are all good with this phone. I had a Droid Maxx before this and the WIFI was terrible on that. Other than the locked bootloader this phone is the best on my opinion. I had a Nokia 822, Nokia 928, Razr M, S3 and a Razr Maxx all within the last year and the N3 kills them all. I don't want to turn this into a comparison thread but that's my experience and opinion.

Worst phone reception I have ever had on a phone. I barely get signal anywhere. Have a few dropped calls everyday. Never expected this from Samsung. I got the phone on release day and at first I thought it was me, but even after the updates, I absolutely hate the reception. I'm usually always around the -110 to -120 mark.
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vikramjatt11 said:
Worst phone reception I have ever had on a phone. I barely get signal anywhere. Have a few dropped calls everyday. Never expected this from Samsung. I got the phone on release day and at first I thought it was me, but even after the updates, I absolutely hate the reception. I'm usually always around the -110 to -120 mark.
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Have you tried getting it replaced? I'm guessing you're probably beyond the warranty period, but if you have insurance you can probably get it swapped out. Sounds like that is not the norm...

The 30GB of data I pulled last month was problematic.
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