Verizon Note 3 Signal - Is it that bad? POLL - Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So i have the chance to pick up a N3 today, but I have heard there are issues with signal on the device. How bad is it? I talked to my buddy with one the other day and he was cutting in and out. Is this a major issue with them overall? Thanks

My signal is superb. Best phone signal ive ever had are this Note 3 and the S4 before it
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I see it this way...many ppl report issues with WiFi in particular but it's an issue with router and/or the channel that's being used. Matching the channel via the app Wifi Analyzer can assist with quickly fixing said issue
However, I voted yes to your poll because 4G signal works, but not consistently when on the train where AT&T would be a better network(at least with my Note 2) over the course of a 30 mile commute. This is in the Philadelphia area where I live, might be regional
Bottom line, I'm switching from Verizon to AT&T asap because it's cheaper, more reliable across town, and faster speedtest.net results in Phila area

Experience that applies
I'm in Ohio too (Go Bucks!) and I purchased 2 Galaxy Note 3s at the same time. Mine is phenomenal! The best cell reception of any phone I've ever seen. I truly can't go on enough about how this phone is the best I've seen out of about 15 phones.
My wife's phone is the opposite. She has had issues from day one. I just took her phone back to the Samsung reps at Best Buy Monday and they 'reflashed' the factory ROM from a laptop while I waited. The Rep, who spent most of the time I was there asking me questions about the N3, didn't seem like he knew that much about the phone. He said he's seen a handful of N3's come back and reflashing the factory rom seems to fix it. He did say that they were all the Verizon version. I don't trust too much of what he said, as I said, he clearly knew less about the phone and phones in general than I did.
Now having said all that. His flash did not fix the problem. We've been in multiple places where my wife's phone cannot make or receive calls while mine standing next to her has no issues. I truly believed it to be a software issue because it will show the same signal strength as mine. Or darn near the same. The last time I checked, mine was -93dBm while hers was -95dBm. Mine would call out, hers would not.
The Samsung Rep told me to bring it back in and they're going to swap it out as a defective product. Maybe it's because hers is the white model and mine is the black? Just kidding of course... but I am going to ask for her to get the rose gold model instead of the white, just because she's girlie and will like it.
Having said all this... I would not hesitate to recommend this phone to anyone and everyone. I do so on a regular basis. I believe this to be an unusual situation, not the norm. I think you should get it and if you notice any troubles, take it back and make them work it out. The phone is THAT good that it's worth the risk of possible hassle to get it right.

Jackseric said:
I'm in Ohio too (Go Bucks!) and I purchased 2 Galaxy Note 3s at the same time. Mine is phenomenal! The best cell reception of any phone I've ever seen. I truly can't go on enough about how this phone is the best I've seen out of about 15 phones.
My wife's phone is the opposite. She has had issues from day one. I just took her phone back to the Samsung reps at Best Buy Monday and they 'reflashed' the factory ROM from a laptop while I waited. The Rep, who spent most of the time I was there asking me questions about the N3, didn't seem like he knew that much about the phone. He said he's seen a handful of N3's come back and reflashing the factory rom seems to fix it. He did say that they were all the Verizon version. I don't trust too much of what he said, as I said, he clearly knew less about the phone and phones in general than I did.
Now having said all that. His flash did not fix the problem. We've been in multiple places where my wife's phone cannot make or receive calls while mine standing next to her has no issues. I truly believed it to be a software issue because it will show the same signal strength as mine. Or darn near the same. The last time I checked, mine was -93dBm while hers was -95dBm. Mine would call out, hers would not.
The Samsung Rep told me to bring it back in and they're going to swap it out as a defective product. Maybe it's because hers is the white model and mine is the black? Just kidding of course... but I am going to ask for her to get the rose gold model instead of the white, just because she's girlie and will like it.
Having said all this... I would not hesitate to recommend this phone to anyone and everyone. I do so on a regular basis. I believe this to be an unusual situation, not the norm. I think you should get it and if you notice any troubles, take it back and make them work it out. The phone is THAT good that it's worth the risk of possible hassle to get it right.
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Thanks for the detailed response. My only issue here is Im trading my LG G2 for the N3 (craigslist), so it wont be just as easy as walking into the store and swapping it out. Which is what has me worried. G2 is an awesome phone, just ready to have a new toy until the S5 drops.

jmill75 said:
Thanks for the detailed response. My only issue here is Im trading my LG G2 for the N3 (craigslist), so it wont be just as easy as walking into the store and swapping it out. Which is what has me worried. G2 is an awesome phone, just ready to have a new toy until the S5 drops.
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Just get the insurance and you should be fine. Good luck!

jmill75 said:
Thanks for the detailed response. My only issue here is Im trading my LG G2 for the N3 (craigslist), so it wont be just as easy as walking into the store and swapping it out. Which is what has me worried. G2 is an awesome phone, just ready to have a new toy until the S5 drops.
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I would encourage you to do the trade right in the Verizon store, even if Big Red won't get a dime. Here's why:
- both parties can get the IMEIs checked by Verizon to make sure that they are clean
- both parties can transfer the other phone immediately to their own account.
There have been a couple incidents reported here where folks bought phones off of craigslist, and - failing to register the phone to their account - later found their phones reported stolen. (Meaning, they suddenly had a worthless deactivated phone) That can only happen out of your control if you don't have it registered to your account.
Not only that, but if your counterparty refuses to meet you in a Verizon store, you will know that something is not square.
Good luck

Coming fomr a Verizon Galaxy Nexus in a good 4G coverage area, band 4, I have zero issues. In fact my speeds over 4G increased significantly compared to my Galaxy Nexus, and WiFi is as fast as ever.
Like any phone Your Mileage Will Vary, but I'd recommend this phone to anyone, even if I didn't like them, it's that good.

Signal is nearly always strong and phone is always fast!
Sent from my Galaxy Note III; Previous owner/hacker of Galaxy S III, Galaxy Nexus, Droid X, HTC HD2, HTC Touch Pro 2, HTC Tilt, HTC 8525, O2 XDA II, O2 XDA.

Big Cam said:
Coming fomr a Verizon Galaxy Nexus in a good 4G coverage area, band 4, I have zero issues. In fact my speeds over 4G increased significantly compared to my Galaxy Nexus, and WiFi is as fast as ever.
Like any phone Your Mileage Will Vary, but I'd recommend this phone to anyone, even if I didn't like them, it's that good.
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Yes but that phone was a big turd
Worst phone for reception/battery EVER.

jmill75 said:
Yes but that phone was a big turd
Worst phone for reception/battery EVER.
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I have never heard that. I loved the phone, Pure Android is the way to go for Rooting and Romming, but the battery life was SOOOO bad. I just assumed that was the way it was.
The Note 3 is leaps and bounds over the Galaxy Nexus. I'm happy you told me that, now I don't feel like I was wrong for *****ing about it. :laugh:

jmill75 said:
Yes but that phone was a big turd
Worst phone for reception/battery EVER.
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I came to the N3 from that phone too. I LOVED that phone for the ease of rooting/flashing... but you're right. Both battery and reception was terrible.

My phone, data and WIFI are all good with this phone. I had a Droid Maxx before this and the WIFI was terrible on that. Other than the locked bootloader this phone is the best on my opinion. I had a Nokia 822, Nokia 928, Razr M, S3 and a Razr Maxx all within the last year and the N3 kills them all. I don't want to turn this into a comparison thread but that's my experience and opinion.

Worst phone reception I have ever had on a phone. I barely get signal anywhere. Have a few dropped calls everyday. Never expected this from Samsung. I got the phone on release day and at first I thought it was me, but even after the updates, I absolutely hate the reception. I'm usually always around the -110 to -120 mark.
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vikramjatt11 said:
Worst phone reception I have ever had on a phone. I barely get signal anywhere. Have a few dropped calls everyday. Never expected this from Samsung. I got the phone on release day and at first I thought it was me, but even after the updates, I absolutely hate the reception. I'm usually always around the -110 to -120 mark.
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Have you tried getting it replaced? I'm guessing you're probably beyond the warranty period, but if you have insurance you can probably get it swapped out. Sounds like that is not the norm...

The 30GB of data I pulled last month was problematic.
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Experiences with Evo/Sprint?

I've been getting fed up with T-Mobile lately, the coverage at my house is limited, if not non-existent.
I was wondering if anyone would care to share their experiences with Sprint's network (4g speeds/coverage, reliability, etc). Also, experiences with the Evo itself (battery life, durabilty, accessory quality/quantity, etc)
I'm currently using a Nexus One, if that makes a difference.
Thanks!
Seems like your biggest issue is your coverage at your house. Best advice I can give you is go get an EVO, go home, check to see if you have good signal and 4G.
U can download map viewer from the market check the Sprint 4g coverage
And as for battery life it was not until I rooted that I felt I was getting the most out of it my battery life dramatically changed
And I've had nothing but a good experience I came from a moment so honestly tht was not the best Android experience so this phone have to say im really surprised by this device and what it can do if u have played around with one it really is not the same as owning it and since Sprint has the 3o day money back guarantee u should defin try itout and see if its for u
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U can download map viewer from the market check the Sprint 4g coverage
And as for battery life it was not until I rooted that I felt I was getting the most out of it my battery life dramatically changed
And I've had nothing but a good experience I came from a moment so honestly tht was not the best Android experience so this phone have to say im really surprised by this device and what it can do if u have played around with one it really is not the same as owning it and since Sprint has the 3o day money back guarantee u should defin try itout and see if its for u
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Punctuation is so overrated these days.
You will love an Evo, Sprint is a great company and the customer service has come a long way.
Try it for 30 days free, if not satisfied then return it, (yes you can root it and still return it)
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I've been getting fed up with T-Mobile lately, the coverage at my house is limited, if not non-existent.
I was wondering if anyone would care to share their experiences with Sprint's network (4g speeds/coverage, reliability, etc). Also, experiences with the Evo itself (battery life, durabilty, accessory quality/quantity, etc)
I'm currently using a Nexus One, if that makes a difference.
Thanks!
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Sprint actually has pretty good coverage in the San Francisco area. It's really hard to build new towers there nowadays so younger networks (T-Mobile) or older networks that are now overloaded (AT&T) have a really tough time working well there.
I suggest you take advantage of Sprint's 30-day unconditional return policy and test drive the EVO 4G for a few weeks. If you don't like it, or it doesn't work well for you, you can return the device and pay nothing (no restock fee or prorated usage fee, or anything).
Reiterating what others have said, signal in your home/area is going to vary, and your best bet is to try it out.
Sometimes while you are in the 30 day window, if you try to cancel due to lack of signal in your home the store will offer the signal booster thingy (I can't remember the name) and wave the monthly fee. It connects to your router and essentially gives you a tower in your home over the internet.
As for the EVO, I've had a Hero and a T-Mobile G1, and I love the EVO. It does everything I want, and then some. Rooting is key though, and I think the best battery life comes from the custom roms on these forums.
Give it a go for 30 days without canceling your T-Mobile phone. At the worst, you'll pay for a month of service on both lines. Once you test it out though and determine Sprint is the way to go, you can transfer your number from T-Mobile.
Oh, and 4G sucks the battery from your phone, so it's really rather useless in my opinion, unless you're tethering and plugged in, otherwise it's as good as a cable connection.
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U can download map viewer from the market check the Sprint 4g coverage...
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This map is crap. The map indicates that I have excellent coverage at home and work and is not so. Do what tgruendler said. Get the phone, take it home and test it and see what you think.
When I first got my Evo a lot of people I knew were saying "it's a nice phone and all, but you had to go to SPRINT?"
Now the Evo also marks my maiden voyage with Sprint, so I don't know the history that may have gotten them this bad rep ... but I have to say I've been nothing but pleased. I bought my phone a mere 2 weeks before my road trip across 4 states in 3 weeks (started in Georgia and ended up in Washington DC). During the ENTIRE road trip I had signal. Now I didn't call people, but I did use google maps and Nav and I maintained data the entire time (some minor blackouts in Mentone Alabama looking for an old friend's wedding ... but if you saw where I was you'd completely understand too ... and GMaps still got me there fine).
So while during this trip I saw 4G go up and down ... I will say their data was consistent. I uploaded photos to facebook nightly, took pictures all day, and even occasionally handed the phone to the kids to stream you tube videos (OK I had to plug in for that ... phone can't handle 4-6 hours straight youtube).
My only complaint with this phone while on 2.1 an touring ... was that 4G would destroy my phone (only when connected ... 4G seemed to idle fine in areas with no coverage). By destroy i mean that doing the same heavy uploading of images would kill the phone in about 4 hours.
Now back in the home land of LA ... vacation is over and I'm making more calls than you tube videos. In this case it's more of a Sprint vs ATT conversation (my old provider) and I have to say: Sprints coverage blows away ATT in all areas here. I consult .... meaning i travel all corners of the southland. While Sprint may have bad signal reception occasionally ... it _never_ disconnects. In contrast my ATT signal was always clear .... when it bothered to connect and would disconnect _constantly_ even when driving down major highways. So I like the Sprint service much better.
My Phone has "evolved" with me which is huge. 4G is now here where I live ... but I've also learned to root and tweak my EVO ... and I leave 4G on all day now and can make it from wake up to home with the wife and kids on one charge without having to plug in (I do tend to car charge every so often if i know I'm going to be on a long conference call or can't resist flashing a new ROM during my lunch break ... but that's not suprising). Between 2.2 improvements and wonderful after market ROMs and tweaks, the EVO isn't nearly as bad of a battery vacuum as it was when I first got it so it's to the point that I just leave all the features enabled (except wifi ... i don't see a point when 4g is faster than _any_ free wifi spot that is always over congested).
The ONLY thing I really don't like about Sprint is that i don't get voice and data at the same time. 4G fixes that (another reason i leave it on all the time)... but it's coverage is honestly spotty ... unlike Sprint 3G this one really is location sensitive.
The phone itself ... is awesome. I just can't complain as it still feels cutting edge after 6 months of having it (or is it 7 now ... i forget).
Summary: the battery used to be BAD with 4g turned on. 2.2 improvements and a good community changed all of that... and the phone is flexible and powerful enough that I don't care what's been released sense. I would love a longer battery life (who wouldn't), but considering I basically have a PC in my Pocket I'm OK with that trade off.
EDIT: one other negative I should note: I noticed with the stock HTC ROM having 4G turned on would occasionally make the whole phone stutter and lag, even when doing trivial things like scrolling between home screens. It would actually made the phone feel slower with 4g turned on if i wasn't directly doing a data intesive task. Custom ROMs _completely_ solved that problem. For the record i currently use Myn's Warm 2.2 RLS4 on the HTC17 kernel with the battery tweak, and all sense ripped out I could get away with (rosie pulled out compeltely, gingerbread keyboard, etc), and those stutters are a thing of the past.
Fantastic phone! Great network. Sprint is working hard to improve the quality of their customer service and doing a good job. They have already rolled out WiMax, so if you are in a coverage area you should be getting some pretty snappy speeds there. I also like the fact that Sprint isn't afraid to look at other technologies. I read an article the other day indicating that Sprint will probably begin developing an LTE network to work alongside the WiMax. All things considered, I would definitely recommend the Evo and Sprint
Pierceye said:
Fantastic phone! Great network. Sprint is working hard to improve the quality of their customer service and doing a good job. They have already rolled out WiMax, so if you are in a coverage area you should be getting some pretty snappy speeds there. I also like the fact that Sprint isn't afraid to look at other technologies. I read an article the other day indicating that Sprint will probably begin developing an LTE network to work alongside the WiMax. All things considered, I would definitely recommend the Evo and Sprint
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Yeah - I couldnt have said it better my self...
Been with Sprint now for 9 years and have no complaints, they are like brandy - only getting better with age...
EVO is by far the best phone out there and Sprint is (IMO) by far the best carrier out there...
wdfowty said:
I've been getting fed up with T-Mobile lately, the coverage at my house is limited, if not non-existent.
I was wondering if anyone would care to share their experiences with Sprint's network (4g speeds/coverage, reliability, etc). Also, experiences with the Evo itself (battery life, durabilty, accessory quality/quantity, etc)
I'm currently using a Nexus One, if that makes a difference.
Thanks!
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hey i had tmobile< i had the blackberry 9700 and an unlocked iphone i loved the phones but the coverage was horrible inside buildings, i went to best buy and got an evo on a temp number and carried both my phones around and sprint was gret in buildings or where ever i went u should go get the evo and test like i did
jesziicuh said:
U can download map viewer from the market check the Sprint 4g coverage
And as for battery life it was not until I rooted that I felt I was getting the most out of it my battery life dramatically changed
And I've had nothing but a good experience I came from a moment so honestly tht was not the best Android experience so this phone have to say im really surprised by this device and what it can do if u have played around with one it really is not the same as owning it and since Sprint has the 3o day money back guarantee u should defin try itout and see if its for u
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Oh wow. -.-
Not one period in all of the rambling and misspellings/retarded text speak. Please act like you have an education. kthnx.
thetakara said:
Oh wow. -.-
Not one period in all of the rambling and misspellings/retarded text speak. Please act like you have an education. kthnx.
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So, you came in here SOLELY to flame that kid? Hahaha
@everyone else: Thanks! All great info. Once I get the cash together I'll test it out for sure.
thetakara said:
Oh wow. -.-
Not one period in all of the rambling and misspellings/retarded text speak. Please act like you have an education. kthnx.
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Hey no reason to be grumpy
I type quick used to jus doing tht way
And I honestly think ignite have nothing nice to say Dnt say it
But hey I guess it take one to kno one
Have a nice night kthnks
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wdfowty said:
So, you came in here SOLELY to flame that kid? Hahaha
@everyone else: Thanks! All great info. Once I get the cash together I'll test it out for sure.
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Yea a lot of grumpy people on here but also a lot of nice people who can actually offer help instead of nasty remarks blah but way r u gonna do any way good luck and happy holidays
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Not having a signal at home isn't an issue if you're with Sprint. When my wife and I moved into our new house back in May, we found out a little too late that our house was in a dead zone and there was absolutely no signal inside on any carrier. We had to step outside to make a call or send a text. After a couple months, I called Sprint and told them what was up. Without question, they offered me a free Airave. No equipment cost, no monthly charges. All they asked was that I send it back to them if I ever leave Sprint in the future. We both get full signal in every room of the house now.
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Not having a signal at home isn't an issue if you're with Sprint. When my wife and I moved into our new house back in May, we found out a little too late that our house was in a dead zone and there was absolutely no signal inside on any carrier. We had to step outside to make a call or send a text. After a couple months, I called Sprint and told them what was up. Without question, they offered me a free Airave. No equipment cost, no monthly charges. All they asked was that I send it back to them if I ever leave Sprint in the future. We both get full signal in every room of the house now.
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O wow really I'm kinda in a similar situation jus moved to a new area like 3 months ago and I get zero reception unless I'm near a window and hanging out of it lol guess ill have to call sprint
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jesziicuh said:
O wow really I'm kinda in a similar situation jus moved to a new area like 3 months ago and I get zero reception unless I'm near a window and hanging out of it lol guess ill have to call sprint
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Yeah, I was pretty surprised. I didn't have to beg, argue, or demand anything. As soon as I told them what was up, the dude just asked if it would be okay if they sent me one for free. Uh... yeah, that's okay with me! lol
I'm in an area far from 4G coverage (Southern Illinois) but after 10 years with Sprint I've been nothing but pleased. I've gotten free upgrades, free features, and all sorts of perks from some very helpful customer service people. On top of that I've never had a billing issue (unlike nearly everyone else I know on a certain other network). The only issue I have is I don't particularly care for their website, but that's just me.
As for the EVO, I upgrade from the Hero two weeks ago and I LOVE it. I definitely don't regret getting it.
Oh, another thing I like about Sprint: When I call customer service, 9 times out of 10 I'm connected to somebody in CONUS and not someone with English as a 3rd language. lol

G2 trackball (??) unstability

Hi, I have a problem with the G2.
I have in my possession 2 of them, and they appear to be freaking out, the trackball is malfunctioning on both phone, at least that's my 1st impression.
I'd like to know if one of you faces the same issue and/or if there ways to get it fixed.
so to give you an example, when I use the phone it will push randomly all directions (up, down, right, left) and make it a pain in the ass to use the phone.
or when writing commands in the terminal emulator, the phone will randomly write: ^[[A^[[C^[[ ... etc etc and on and on.
do you guys think this is a hardware issue? cause it started 2 days ago, and I bought these 2 phones at the same time basically when the phone was released. (so I guess they are part of the 1st shipments and maybe faulty???)
let me know.
Since they're optical, there was probably some sort of lighting that was interfering with it. Happens to me from time to time...
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Happened randomly to me too when I got this flawled phone and had to exchanged it(luckily was within first two weeks of tmobile phone trial). Now I'm dealing with flimsy structure, this craptastic Z slide feels like two magnets with same polarities facing each other it just won't shut anymore! I'm gonna send it in to htc and ebay this p.o.s.
No offense to htc and htc fan boys but I have learned my lesson, its sad tho because this is my first ever smart phone. I was previously on a samsung highlight with no internet or even email because I was a broke a$$ collage student freezing my fingers off with roommates in the winter saving money on utilities. Not even a month after I renew my contract the nexus s comes out which I wouldn't mind right now if only tmobile mandated their manufacters announce their phones so I can plan my purchase like i had been when I almost got a nexus one.
Carriers don't seam to care whose phone you have--but if it sucks you're options most certainly include leaving the carrier altogether to try something new...at least the iphone band wagon includes most if not all your friends or friends to-be whome you might like to game with. Businesses these days...
Now I'm ready to swing back the other way in the spectrum and go for iphone when it goes out on verizon. Who cares tho right? We're only the exclusive bunch that are stuck with g2 in a g2 only section of xda where no one will hear our plight? Wrong--we're a young generation with money in our hands. I'm 24 years old, i plan to get married now that i'm working and done with school, you better believe my future wife and children will own iphones or whatever else isn't a consumer's nightmare
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I don't care whose phone you have--if it sucks you're options include leaving the carrier altogether to try something new...at least the iphone band wagon includes most if not all your friends or friends to-be whome you might like to game with.
Now I'm ready to swing back the other way in the spectrum and go for iphone when it goes out on verizon. Who cares tho right? We're only the exclusive bunch that are stuck with g2 right? Wrong--I'm 24 years old and getting married next year so you better believe my wife and children will own iphones or whatever else isn't a consumer's nightmare
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You're a fool if you think the iPhone has no flaws ir defective units. My wife's 3GS gets no GPS reception (turns out this is a fairly common issue), a friend had the radio crap out (was dropping all calls and data connections) and had to exchange, and another friend is having major battery issues (and of course the battery is not meant to be accessed on the iPhone). That's about a 30% failure rate in iPhone owners amongst my close friends.
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gentlemen please behave! LOL
yes I'm very disappointed by this, and I'm thinking about offloading the device when I get this fixed. the motorola milestone milestone never let me down, dunno why I didnt get the second version over this one (I think it might because of the release date)
anyway, if more of you guys have any explanation to this situation please feel free to comment ^_^
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You're a fool if you think the iPhone has no flaws. My wife's 3GS gets no GPS reception (turns out this is a fairly common issue), a friend had the radio crap out (was dropping all calls and data connections) and had to exchange, and another friend is having major battery issues (and of course the battery is not meant to be accessed on the iPhone). That's about a 30% failure rate in iPhone owners amongst my close friends.
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And you're a fool for including coverage of at&t along with battery problems with mine and dude who started thread's hardware issues.
I'm sorry you had a hard time with your iphone, I myself think at&t fail hard so I really don't know where you thought I was saying iphone is the best, but get with the program you're comparing iphone 3gs with my supposed iphone4 contender the g2... maybe if you said something about the iphone4 I would care.
As I stated before at least iphone has a huge customer base to be among other things, scared of. on the other hand we get pissed on by android os phone manufacturers in the horse races playing catchup with apple to try and get consumers using droid phones. So I get duped into buying this g2 and nobody gives a damn. Btw this phone went down in price very quickly which goes to say it sucks.
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And you're a fool for including coverage of at&t along with battery problems with mine and dude who started thread's hardware issues.
I'm sorry you had a hard time with your iphone
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You misread, I don't own, and will never own an iPhone.
My friends iPhone radio issue has nothing to do with ATT coverage, which you are again completely misreading (and ATT is actually excellent in my market). Her iPhone worked fine for almost a year, then either the radio software or hardware failed. The issue was completely repeatable at the ATT store. The ATT rep then put her SIM in a different iPhone, and it worked fine. So it was obviously a issue with the phone, not the network.
If you think the iPhone 4 is so much more awesome than the 3GS, you must have slept though Apple's antenna design fail. You should also research the instances of cracks in the supposedly unbreakable (or at least very difficult to break) Gorilla Glass. And the iPhone 4 also has proximity sensor issues.
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Who forced anyone to buy X product? Don't forget that you have a choice. These things are like food. A delicacy to one, is the most unappetizing thing to another. Aren't you glad you can choose which one to buy?
....a little research into what you are buying goes a LONG way
^^Nice first post^^
OP, have you called TMo customer service and asked about the problems your having? I've had nothing but excellent service from them with one small exception that was resolved very quickly. If your still in the buyers remorse (14 day) period they will send out new in the box units or allow you to exchange the phones for something different. If not, they still have a one year warranty, so you can get them replaced....
Hope you get things settled soon....
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^^Nice first post^^
OP, have you called TMo customer service and asked about the problems your having? I've had nothing but excellent service from them with one small exception that was resolved very quickly. If your still in the buyers remorse (14 day) period they will send out new in the box units or allow you to exchange the phones for something different. If not, they still have a one year warranty, so you can get them replaced....
Hope you get things settled soon....
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yeah I think when I get back home next week I will try that, the thing is I don't know how long it might take for them to repair the phones
if they do repair them I will try the milestone II instead.
Raioneru said:
yeah I think when I get back home next week I will try that, the thing is I don't know how long it might take for them to repair the phones
if they do repair them I will try the milestone II instead.
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If your out of the remorse period, they will send out replacement units, bare bones so to speak (no battery, SD card, back cover or charger)... In my case they sent them out priority and I had the replacement in three days. You don't return the defective units until the replacement arrives, so no down time.
Raioneru said:
yeah I think when I get back home next week I will try that, the thing is I don't know how long it might take for them to repair the phones
if they do repair them I will try the milestone II instead.
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T-Mobile will send you replacements before you send the defective units back. Basically they send you replacements, then you send the old ones back in the same box(es) they delivered them in.
Hope you get your issue resolved....
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If your out of the remorse period, they will send out replacement units, bare bones so to speak (no battery, SD card, back cover or charger)... In my case they sent them out priority and I had the replacement in three days. You don't return the defective units until the replacement arrives, so no down time.
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oh! so should I go to a local store and do that, or should I do it online?
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oh! so should I go to a local store and do that, or should I do it online?
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Dial 611 from your phone and ask for technical support. They'll walk you through it from there.
More importantly, how did you get a g2 with a track ball?
Sent from my CyanogenMod powered G2.
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And you're a fool for including coverage of at&t along with battery problems with mine and dude who started thread's hardware issues.
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Since the battery is built into the phone and cannot be removed, I'd say that counts as a "hardware issue".
Which isn't really the point here.
The point is that faulty devices will always exist, and the more complex the device, the higher the number of faults.
Yes, the iPhone wouldn't have had the issues that you had.
Because the iPhone doesn't have a slide-out keyboard.
Or an optical trackpad.
See?
Follow that line of thinking through, and you're back in featurephone land.
Fact is, smartphones are complex. Manufacturing faults are inevitable. You just got unlucky. Twice. How unlucky? Well, so unlucky that I've never heard of a single other case of this "inverse-polarity-like sliding mechanism".
Doesn't make it a bad phone tho.

Trade my Note for Galaxy Nexus or HTC OneX

Hey folks, First off, I LOVE my note. It's the only reason I stuck it out this long but to make a long story short it almost left my daughter stranded in a very unfamiliar place yesterday. I am currently on T-mobile and as you know we don't get much love as far as service with the Note. So I put up with the signal bar with a nice pretty little x in it many times because I flat out love my phone even though my wife would have 4 bars of 4g. Well this incident made me realize that while having an awesome phone that barely works as a phone or just about anything else without wifi that having service and signal is more important. So here is what I'm looking for:
Trade: My unlocked galaxy note (Currently running Asylum ICS V09) with black speck case and has liquid armor for display protection.
Want: Galaxy Nexus or and HTC One X ( maybe S for T-mobile as well )
Also willing to sell for $400 flat ( Nothing less will be considered )
So before I go to the craigslist or feebay I wanted to give my trusted XDA people a first shot at it So PM me if interested!
Hopefully I will be seeing you guys in the Note 2 forums one day as I will be dying to get my big momma back
seeing that many people complain about this, let me get it straight,:
can you not use an international unlocked phone in the states? why is everyone complaining about weak signal? it should either work on that frequency or not work at all ,right? so why work with low coverage?
either ways this sucks and is totally unacceptable
MR.change said:
seeing that many people complain about this, let me get it straight,:
can you not use an international unlocked phone in the states? why is everyone complaining about weak signal? it should either work on that frequency or not work at all ,right? so why work with low coverage?
either ways this sucks and is totally unacceptable
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Its not that it doesn't work. It's that it doesn't receive the 1700mHz band which T-mobile uses for it's 4g service. It will work fine on other gsm providers in US but unfortunately not on T-mobile until they convert to the 1900mHz band. So I pretty much get Edge wherever I'm at. One of our guys Bedwa has been working hard on getting it to work but there is no guarantees.
that should effect the speed not signal bars? I mean EDGE vs 4G is all about speeds
but you mention being with no coverage at all sometimes ? maybe their 4G coverage is better than 2G? is that it?
also I would suggest you change providers and not the phone ,cause you'll miss it
MR.change said:
that should effect the speed not signal bars? I mean EDGE vs 4G is all about speeds
but you mention being with no coverage at all sometimes ? maybe their 4G coverage is better than 2G? is that it?
also I would suggest you change providers and not the phone ,cause you'll miss it
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I used to work for AT&T so I refuse to go back to them lol. I know I will miss this beast, and I don't know the ins and outs of signal strength, I just know my wife has great service and laughs at me when I can barely send a text. If I wasn't invested into 3 lines of 2 year contracts with T-mobile however I would be gone in a heartbeat but I don't have the funds to quit right this minute. So I will reluctantly wait for the Note 2 and be back as soon as it releases
well then, good luck to you sir in buying your next phone
Both are good choices. If you like a pure experience go for the Nexus, if you like Sense go for the HTC One X.
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Atomix86 said:
Both are good choices. If you like a pure experience go for the Nexus, if you like Sense go for the HTC One X.
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Yeah, I did quite a bit of research before I decided what I would "step down" to before I posted. I actually like both devices very much. They both have their own advantages and disadvantages that I can easily work with. So like I said, if anyone knows someone who has either device but wants to get their hand on a note. Im up for the transaction
If I were you I would avoid the One X. The reason I got my note was because of HTC's ineptitude.
I PM'ed you.
OP, maybe the phone is faulty? What is your location? If you have any older Android phones, put your sim card in it, and force the Android phone to stick to EDGE/2G connections only to test the signal. If your older Android phone gets a single just fine, something is wrong with your Note.
I'm in the same predicament as you in terms of being on T-Mobile. Thankfully, I'm always within the area of WIFI. In terms of GPS, I just use the lab feature in googlemaps to precache map areas....and it works!
P.S. Open a thread in the marketplace. And be wary of anyone "PM-ing" you. Take the whole sale to the marketplace before doing anything just to be safe. And pay attention to any offers you get, and the person who is making the offer and their joining date. Good luck.
I just got hold of a Note after getting the One X. I wasn't entirely happy with the One so it will be going on ebay. The One has a great screen, and the f2.0 camera lens made taking low light photos easy. The downsides of the phone however are numerous in my opinion.
Design - the layout makes it hard to wake the phone one handed, as the power button is tiny and the capacitive home button doesn't wake it. The front camera is recessed, which makes it a grime magnet. The rear camera protrudes, making it a scratch magnet
Camera - excellent lens and camera app, average at best sensor (I actually think the Note takes better photos), poor quality HD video
Sound - forget all the Beats audio marketing hype, the One X has the worst sound quality out of any phone I've ever owned. The amount of hiss/crackles coming from the DAC make it sound like a long wave radio. I use my phone a lot for music, so this really put me off the One X.
Battery - in standard form the battery was terrible. The only way I could get a full day from it was to install a custom rom, reduce the auto brightness levels (which are blindingly high by default), turn off all push notifications and disable 2 of the 4 cpu cores. It also took 4 hours to charge!
Performance - very quick, but probably too quick for what the hardware can take. The phone gets incredibly hot when gaming to the point where the screen is almost too hot to touch. If you try and game while it's charging, you'll be greeted with a message telling you the phone is too hot and whatever you're playing will be terminated.
All these things made me try the Note. While it's not as snappy as the X and doesn't have a screen that's as nice as the X, it still performs well, still has a decent screen, better designed, has much better audio and has a phenomenal battery.
I think I'll be sticking with it
I use my note on tmobile I always have service sometimes I notice 1 bar but mostly have 3
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OP, maybe the phone is faulty? What is your location? If you have any older Android phones, put your sim card in it, and force the Android phone to stick to EDGE/2G connections only to test the signal. If your older Android phone gets a single just fine, something is wrong with your Note.
I'm in the same predicament as you in terms of being on T-Mobile. Thankfully, I'm always within the area of WIFI. In terms of GPS, I just use the lab feature in googlemaps to precache map areas....and it works!
P.S. Open a thread in the marketplace. And be wary of anyone "PM-ing" you. Take the whole sale to the marketplace before doing anything just to be safe. And pay attention to any offers you get, and the person who is making the offer and their joining date. Good luck.
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Yeah I checked into all that. When I am at my buddies house I get perfect 4g service. I just can't stand the edge stuff. However I did not realize you could pre cache map data. That's awesome!! So thanks for heads up
The problem sounds like T-Mobile. Why not use your phone on Straight Talk, which is basically AT&T. I get excellent service on my Note. I highly recommend any AT&T compatible phone on Straight Talk. My wifes iPhone 4S works great on it as well. $45 a month unlimited everything, 4G speeds, not like T-Mobile's very slow speeds.
thanks to Poisonwolf for the comment on marketplace. I didn't even know about it lol. So anyway I am no longer updating in this thread but here is the link to the marketplace thread if anyone is interested:
FS Galaxy Note GT-N7000
I'll trade you my nexus and a 16gb HP TouchPad.

Prospective Buyer Questions

Hey guys I had a few questions hoping you can help me with.
Right Now i have a Galaxy Nexus with VZ and im sitting on an upgrade, looking to purchase the VZW Note 3 as the successor to my G-Nex.
1) Does anyone know of any deals happening on them currently? So far the best price ive found on upgrade was $249.99 (Amazon) - If there are going to be some Black Friday deals going on where I can get it cheaper (maybe 199.95?) Then Ill wait the extra few weeks, but if people think its pretty set in stone right now, then ill just go ahead and order it
2) Is the VZW Note 3 a Global Phone? Im planning a trip to Europe this summer and curious if my phone will work there.. I probably need to get an international SIM card or something from VZW for it to work right?
3) How is the Signal Quality? My G-Nexus Signal SUCKS, my GFs HTC Phone blows mine out of the water when it comes to signal strength and overall general reception, just curious if the Note 3 has better Radios then previous Samsung Phones.,. I thought the general consensus is the Samsung Phones have the worst reception, Moto Phones have the best, and HTC falls in the middle between the two
4) I consider myself a power user ---> moderate / heavy usage. I know all the reviews say Battery life is great but whats the real world expectation with these? Will i get a full day of use out of it or will I be charging it at 8 aclock at night? I know the battery on my G-Nex was so bad that I always kept half the stuff turned off, brightness to a minimum and even put a plain black background on my phone to conserve energy and still dont get a full day out of it
5) What do you NOT like about the phone? That you may not of known coming into it
Thanks Guys! Oh and BTW have they officially said the N3 will be getting 4.4 or any timeframes for that release??
Joe92T said:
Hey guys I had a few questions hoping you can help me with.
Right Now i have a Galaxy Nexus with VZ and im sitting on an upgrade, looking to purchase the VZW Note 3 as the successor to my G-Nex.
1) Does anyone know of any deals happening on them currently? So far the best price ive found on upgrade was $249.99 (Amazon) - If there are going to be some Black Friday deals going on where I can get it cheaper (maybe 199.95?) Then Ill wait the extra few weeks, but if people think its pretty set in stone right now, then ill just go ahead and order it
2) Is the VZW Note 3 a Global Phone? Im planning a trip to Europe this summer and curious if my phone will work there.. I probably need to get an international SIM card or something from VZW for it to work right?
3) How is the Signal Quality? My G-Nexus Signal SUCKS, my GFs HTC Phone blows mine out of the water when it comes to signal strength and overall general reception, just curious if the Note 3 has better Radios then previous Samsung Phones.,. I thought the general consensus is the Samsung Phones have the worst reception, Moto Phones have the best, and HTC falls in the middle between the two
4) I consider myself a power user ---> moderate / heavy usage. I know all the reviews say Battery life is great but whats the real world expectation with these? Will i get a full day of use out of it or will I be charging it at 8 aclock at night? I know the battery on my G-Nex was so bad that I always kept half the stuff turned off, brightness to a minimum and even put a plain black background on my phone to conserve energy and still dont get a full day out of it
5) What do you NOT like about the phone? That you may not of known coming into it
Thanks Guys! Oh and BTW have they officially said the N3 will be getting 4.4 or any timeframes for that release??
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Well first off wrong section....
But now going into what you asked:
1. I have heard rummors that Best Buy and Radio Shack will be having specials for black friday...not sure of the price but it might be a good idea to research it.
2. Yes the Note3 is a global phone...and can used since it works with a sim card...btw i believe that all Verizon LTE phones are unlocked.
3. The Signal quality i think atleast on my device very good...then again i live in a big city...Miami.
4. The Note3 has a 3200 milli amp battery, which is considerable bigger then the GNex. That said im a heavy user always on the phone doing something i get about 15hrs, so yes the battery should last for you.
5. Most of the annoying things on the phone have been fixed by our Great Developers.
As for the Note3 getting the 4.4 KitKat update that would be a yes but as of now there is no set date....on a side note it would be really funny to see that Verizons Flag Ship Samsung device not getting 4.4. And if that is the case dont worry we usually get those too..
Welcome to the Best Place for Android Dev...!!!!!
I had a Galaxy Nexus and the biggest complaint was battery life. I had 3 batteries I carried daily.
This phone has worlds better battery life but the mod community is growing it is nowhere near the GNex.
Yeah im running 4.4 on my G-Nex right now, I love the features but its buggy and even on older roms like 4.3.1 and all that the battery life is horrendous - If i take it off the charget at 8 AM i have it plugged in at 6 that night or its dead and thats not even using it like crazy
Also the only deals I see (including Radio Shack) are for new line activations, nothing for regular line upgrades
I made the mistake of getting an 16gig iPhone 5S on launch day but just traded a guy on Craigslist for a like new Note 3 with spigen neo case. Verizon even allowed me to add total insurance coverage which shocked me being that its a Craigslist phone.
But the best deal in my opinion was the 30% verizon coupon that was active for a few days after release. Some people got the phone for $100 when they selected in store pickup. I'm sitting there ready to throw the 5S against the wall because I was so upset.
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Joe92T said:
Hey guys I had a few questions hoping you can help me with.
Right Now i have a Galaxy Nexus with VZ and im sitting on an upgrade, looking to purchase the VZW Note 3 as the successor to my G-Nex.
1) Does anyone know of any deals happening on them currently? So far the best price ive found on upgrade was $249.99 (Amazon) - If there are going to be some Black Friday deals going on where I can get it cheaper (maybe 199.95?) Then Ill wait the extra few weeks, but if people think its pretty set in stone right now, then ill just go ahead and order it
2) Is the VZW Note 3 a Global Phone? Im planning a trip to Europe this summer and curious if my phone will work there.. I probably need to get an international SIM card or something from VZW for it to work right?
3) How is the Signal Quality? My G-Nexus Signal SUCKS, my GFs HTC Phone blows mine out of the water when it comes to signal strength and overall general reception, just curious if the Note 3 has better Radios then previous Samsung Phones.,. I thought the general consensus is the Samsung Phones have the worst reception, Moto Phones have the best, and HTC falls in the middle between the two
4) I consider myself a power user ---> moderate / heavy usage. I know all the reviews say Battery life is great but whats the real world expectation with these? Will i get a full day of use out of it or will I be charging it at 8 aclock at night? I know the battery on my G-Nex was so bad that I always kept half the stuff turned off, brightness to a minimum and even put a plain black background on my phone to conserve energy and still dont get a full day out of it
5) What do you NOT like about the phone? That you may not of known coming into it
Thanks Guys! Oh and BTW have they officially said the N3 will be getting 4.4 or any timeframes for that release??
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I upgraded from a galaxy Nexus so hopefully I can help you out.
1 radio shack is supposed to have some good black Friday deals plus they will give you money for devices.
2. The note 3 is a global phone. I have an att note 2 and my sim will work with data included just by adjusting the proper apn settings.
3. The note 3 must have the same antennas as the Nexus because it's just as bad as my Nexus. I'm a bus driver so I travel a lot. I have a Motorola bionic which sees 4g often but the note 3 will be in 3g it's very frustrating. And in big cities Verizon is horrible because they have more users being the largest wireless provider and all.
4. This phones battery is amazing. The standby time is even better it won't budge.
5. I just hate the fact that the antennas suck. They really do.
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Best thing to do is go ahead and purchase one and play around with it for 14 days. Battery life will vary, every person uses their phone differently. Also signal will vary depending upon your location. Some people say signal/speed is better, some say worse. Black Friday is around the corner and you can probably get the price matched if the price does go down. Now, go ahead and grab one and enjoy all this Note 3 goodness!
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3. The note 3 must have the same antennas as the Nexus because it's just as bad as my Nexus. I'm a bus driver so I travel a lot. I have a Motorola bionic which sees 4g often but the note 3 will be in 3g it's very frustrating. And in big cities Verizon is horrible because they have more users being the largest wireless provider and all.
5. I just hate the fact that the antennas suck. They really do.
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Whaaaaat? I upgraded from a Galaxy Nexus too, and it was never able to hold an LTE signal throughout my house.It would intermittently connect to LTE if I was next to a window on one side of my house, but that was it. Other places in my house it would drop to 3G signal that it could barely hold on to.
My new Note 3 holds an LTE signal throughout my house and still has great call quality while I hold the phone inside my clothes dryer (yes that's the worst signal spot in my house and I like to test phones by calling my landline while the phone is in the dryer.)
I think you must have a bad one because the radio in the Note 3 is miles ahead of anything else I've ever used.
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Whaaaaat? I upgraded from a Galaxy Nexus too, and it was never able to hold an LTE signal throughout my house.It would intermittently connect to LTE if I was next to a window on one side of my house, but that was it. Other places in my house it would drop to 3G signal that it could barely hold on to.
My new Note 3 holds an LTE signal throughout my house and still has great call quality while I hold the phone inside my clothes dryer (yes that's the worst signal spot in my house and I like to test phones by calling my landline while the phone is in the dryer.)
I think you must have a bad one because the radio in the Note 3 is miles ahead of anything else I've ever used.
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As I stated I travel a lot. Do I think it's a better phone than the Nexus absolutely. But it doesn't hold a candle to the bionic's signal and that's a 2 to 3 year old phone. I constantly see the bionic holding a strong signal and the note 3 is on 3g. My Nexus was the same way.
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Bsmith0731 said:
As I stated I travel a lot. Do I think it's a better phone than the Nexus absolutely. But it doesn't hold a candle to the bionic's signal and that's a 2 to 3 year old phone. I constantly see the bionic holding a strong signal and the note 3 is on 3g. My Nexus was the same way.
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Hmm I guess I should try a bionic then just for kicks, lol.
But yeah it is true that moto is known for great radios so I can't really argue.
jack584 said:
Hmm I guess I should try a bionic then just for kicks, lol.
But yeah it is true that moto is known for great radios so I can't really argue.
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Just don't think I'll be going Samsung again. Antennas should be the most important thing id think.
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Bsmith0731 said:
Just don't think I'll be going Samsung again. Antennas should be the most important thing id think.
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I don't know why people are complaining about antennas. Coming from the Gnex, the antennas on this baby are above and beyond. Bsmith you likely have a defective radio in your N3, or simply a subpar radio. Logically it would have to be that because everyone that owns a N3 isn't complaining about reception (myself included).
To the OP - getting this phone is a no brainer, coming from ANY phone. I've never in my life experienced battery life/screen on time like this (I've gotten 8+ hours screen on time on a single charge). It also flies in every way, and you just can't go wrong with 3GB of RAM and the multitude of multitasking options at your fingertips. Multitasking is very important to me, and there's no other phone that can do it like this. For years I've felt the devices and software I've had just didn't get it quite right. Finally they have. Multi-window and pen window are ingenious, and they work without a single hiccup or stutter. This thing is a monster.
And if I went into every useful setting and tweak on the STOCK rom (out of the box), I could go on for hours. Add to all that the s-pen with all its features (I'm an artist so I'm in love with it), and the N3 is the champion among champions.
I will literally never get another brand/model. When the N4 comes out, I'll be the first in line. I've never been this impressed with a mobile device.

[Q] Pros and cons of Sprint S4

Hello,
I have been using an S2 for years, and while receiving/sending text messages my phone locked up Steady blue light, hold power button on and a momentary led off period and then a steady blue light. The short story apparently I have a bricked phone.
I really like the S2, and I was all ready to upgrade to the S4 and then I started reading reviews and became a bit worried about the S4 and the screen being ""more fragile" than previous models among various other issues including poor wifi and battery etc.etc. I would appreciate some user input on the S4, good and/or bad, and if it looks grim I may just pick up a used S2 and stick with that.
Thanks!
Tom
Best phone I've had (so far) and I've owened about three dozen over the past 30 years of all makes, manufactures, operating systems and carriers. I've dropped my s4 a dozen times and have had no issues (and I only used a screen protector and soft 'caseology' case. Though I did just acuire an Otterbox waterproof jobber; but it's useless without BT because people can't hear ME)
I really love my S4 from sprint. I have been using it for about three months now. No complaints at all thus far. I use an otterbox case. The raised rubber ridges do a very good job of keeping the screen protected.
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I upgraded from a S2 and it's been a night and day difference for me.
Faster, better looking, much better screen in terms of clarity, detail, and legibility under sunlight, better battery life, more case choices & other accessories, better sound, reliable & fast-locking GPS, and more custom ROM options. It has also been very stable and easy to keep up its stability & performance.
Although I was very fond of my S2 b/c it was my first smartphone, I gladly left it behind.
I also daily a Nexus 5 with a monthly T-Mobile SIM plan and I like my S4 more. Before that, I owned a Note 3 for a couple weeks but returned it b/c it was too big for my pockets, especially my work dress pants.
That S2 is going to feel like an old Texas Instruments calculator once you fire up the S4.
I agree with All of the Above and since I upgraded w/o knowledge of Knox I've not rooted this yet. The phone has a lot of customizing already which makes it a lot easier to handle not being rooted.
MY Only issue is Sprint getting ready to add Spark LTE which means I would need a TRI Band phone and this is Not! I feel ripped off by Sprint to be pushing the S4 so strong knowing they would be adding a service this phone can not use.
My Sprint tech said current TRI band is LG2 but I want a phone with a sd card and removable battery. Not sure because didn't want to get my hopes up but the S5 maybe TRI? I figure why tick myself off more by looking at phones I can't get until this 2 yr contract expires.
All that to say check the Spark LTE service for your area and if it is going to happen get yourself a TRI band phone.
Disclaimer: 2 of my Sprint contacts disagree about Spark because once says reality is OKC is not a major market for Spark yet and by the time we get it I'll be up gradable? The other says we will have the service. So for me it is a 50/50 issue.
checkout: www.phonearena.com Great Side by Side Comparison Ability
This is really a great phone!
jtsv said:
I agree with All of the Above and since I upgraded w/o knowledge of Knox I've not rooted this yet. The phone has a lot of customizing already which makes it a lot easier to handle not being rooted.
MY Only issue is Sprint getting ready to add Spark LTE which means I would need a TRI Band phone and this is Not! I feel ripped off by Sprint to be pushing the S4 so strong knowing they would be adding a service this phone can not use.
My Sprint tech said current TRI band is LG2 but I want a phone with a sd card and removable battery. Not sure because didn't want to get my hopes up but the S5 maybe TRI? I figure why tick myself off more by looking at phones I can't get until this 2 yr contract expires.
All that to say check the Spark LTE service for your area and if it is going to happen get yourself a TRI band phone.
Disclaimer: 2 of my Sprint contacts disagree about Spark because once says reality is OKC is not a major market for Spark yet and by the time we get it I'll be up gradable? The other says we will have the service. So for me it is a 50/50 issue.
checkout: www.phonearena.com Great Side by Side Comparison Ability
This is really a great phone!
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Have you read this article yet? http://www.geek.com/android/sprints-tri-band-lte-phones-offering-crippled-service-for-the-forseeable-future-1577462/
Many people I know have gotten tri-band devices are are experiencing these same issues currently.
tkepk181 said:
Have you read this article yet? http://www.geek.com/android/sprints...ed-service-for-the-forseeable-future-1577462/
Many people I know have gotten tri-band devices are are experiencing these same issues currently.
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Really even after 4 months from the publication of that article? I've seen triband phones in LA and they work fine.
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Have you read this article yet? http://www.geek.com/android/sprints-tri-band-lte-phones-offering-crippled-service-for-the-forseeable-future-1577462/
Many people I know have gotten tri-band devices are are experiencing these same issues currently.
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NO hadn't seen it Thanks that makes things a whole lot better. I'm with you I couldn't pass up on a Pre Black Friday Sale at Sam's .96 cent S4.
Just quite carrying my rooted 4.4.2 S3 (cracked screen) wifi only use because I needed to just stop w/root and use my new phone. Been running great but had junked up memory w/too much stuff so clean factory reset yesterday been a lot better so far. My son's iP5 was having issues because of google voice and sprint integration so I've left it off this phone for me for now until I figure out if i need it or not.
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daniel4653 said:
Really even after 4 months from the publication of that article? I've seen triband phones in LA and they work fine.
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Guess it is on an actual phone by phone basis depending on the coverage area. Where I live in OKC, older area of the city everything is poor. Sprint has towers close by but my service is very spotty, cable has more issues. U-verse just dropped in the area however they said it wouldn't because they didn't want to have all the issues with the older neighborhoods and historical preservation.
I can have 4G on my phone while my wife with the same phone sitting next to me has 3G. Sprint tech's here say all issue are because we are not a major market.
daniel4653 said:
Really even after 4 months from the publication of that article? I've seen triband phones in LA and they work fine.
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That's all well and good but the internet is littered with Sprint tri-band phone owners talking about the issues that are brought up in that article. I was merely pointing out something to consider when thinking about upgrading to a tri-band phone on the Sprint network that's all.
Thank you all for your input, I appreciate it greatly! I currently have the S4 and can say that it does indeed survive a fall (not more than 10 feet outside the Sprint door). I have it rooted and am enjoying the speed (both LTE and CPU) gains I have made with the upgrade. :good:
One thing I never gave a single thought about was the dedicated button, depending on how you hold your phone, it can be a pita to actuate! I may go against the status quo, but I really like the soft keys of the S2 and the more centered back button of the S2. Time will tell, and those are some trivial things, but some very often used items.
For those interested I used Saferoot, and ran it twice in order to get busy box installed. I must have toggled a security setting "Verify Apps" as it blocked the install on the first attempt. Phone came with 4.3 MK5 installed and I honestly couldn't tell you how the battery is as I have had my hands on it non-stop. I much prefer the older Samsung charge/USB cords, the new ones are extremely stiff. I forseee more charge port problems
The home button isn't hard to reach if you've got real man hands. Haha I'm just kidding. But the stiff charger will loosen up the more you use it. I'm able to roll it up and throw it into my front picket with no problem.
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lol, my man hands have failed me, remember - I dropped my phone already haha! Also, I briefly read about the info concerning tri-band phones and had no idea that the S4 had the T variant. I wondered what the spark video was when I booted up my phone and thought they were going to tease me for 2 years until I am eligible for another upgrade :laugh:
I officially have the SPH-L720T :good:
/me makes mental note for rom selection
I recommend it! I just upgraded today from my Red HTC One and damn it's blazing fast!!! I'm running the latest S4 with the Spark LTE bands on it and it makes the phone stand out at how quick it loads videos, pages, anything! Get it.
Cudeh said:
I recommend it! I just upgraded today from my Red HTC One and damn it's blazing fast!!! I'm running the latest S4 with the Spark LTE bands on it and it makes the phone stand out at how quick it loads videos, pages, anything! Get it.
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Fortunate to get the tri band that is a soft spot for me because of Sprint pushing the S4's so much only to release tri band and Spark. I could of held off a while to get it verses jumping early for the S4.

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