Hi, I have a problem with the G2.
I have in my possession 2 of them, and they appear to be freaking out, the trackball is malfunctioning on both phone, at least that's my 1st impression.
I'd like to know if one of you faces the same issue and/or if there ways to get it fixed.
so to give you an example, when I use the phone it will push randomly all directions (up, down, right, left) and make it a pain in the ass to use the phone.
or when writing commands in the terminal emulator, the phone will randomly write: ^[[A^[[C^[[ ... etc etc and on and on.
do you guys think this is a hardware issue? cause it started 2 days ago, and I bought these 2 phones at the same time basically when the phone was released. (so I guess they are part of the 1st shipments and maybe faulty???)
let me know.
Since they're optical, there was probably some sort of lighting that was interfering with it. Happens to me from time to time...
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Happened randomly to me too when I got this flawled phone and had to exchanged it(luckily was within first two weeks of tmobile phone trial). Now I'm dealing with flimsy structure, this craptastic Z slide feels like two magnets with same polarities facing each other it just won't shut anymore! I'm gonna send it in to htc and ebay this p.o.s.
No offense to htc and htc fan boys but I have learned my lesson, its sad tho because this is my first ever smart phone. I was previously on a samsung highlight with no internet or even email because I was a broke a$$ collage student freezing my fingers off with roommates in the winter saving money on utilities. Not even a month after I renew my contract the nexus s comes out which I wouldn't mind right now if only tmobile mandated their manufacters announce their phones so I can plan my purchase like i had been when I almost got a nexus one.
Carriers don't seam to care whose phone you have--but if it sucks you're options most certainly include leaving the carrier altogether to try something new...at least the iphone band wagon includes most if not all your friends or friends to-be whome you might like to game with. Businesses these days...
Now I'm ready to swing back the other way in the spectrum and go for iphone when it goes out on verizon. Who cares tho right? We're only the exclusive bunch that are stuck with g2 in a g2 only section of xda where no one will hear our plight? Wrong--we're a young generation with money in our hands. I'm 24 years old, i plan to get married now that i'm working and done with school, you better believe my future wife and children will own iphones or whatever else isn't a consumer's nightmare
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Daffydukc said:
I don't care whose phone you have--if it sucks you're options include leaving the carrier altogether to try something new...at least the iphone band wagon includes most if not all your friends or friends to-be whome you might like to game with.
Now I'm ready to swing back the other way in the spectrum and go for iphone when it goes out on verizon. Who cares tho right? We're only the exclusive bunch that are stuck with g2 right? Wrong--I'm 24 years old and getting married next year so you better believe my wife and children will own iphones or whatever else isn't a consumer's nightmare
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You're a fool if you think the iPhone has no flaws ir defective units. My wife's 3GS gets no GPS reception (turns out this is a fairly common issue), a friend had the radio crap out (was dropping all calls and data connections) and had to exchange, and another friend is having major battery issues (and of course the battery is not meant to be accessed on the iPhone). That's about a 30% failure rate in iPhone owners amongst my close friends.
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gentlemen please behave! LOL
yes I'm very disappointed by this, and I'm thinking about offloading the device when I get this fixed. the motorola milestone milestone never let me down, dunno why I didnt get the second version over this one (I think it might because of the release date)
anyway, if more of you guys have any explanation to this situation please feel free to comment ^_^
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You're a fool if you think the iPhone has no flaws. My wife's 3GS gets no GPS reception (turns out this is a fairly common issue), a friend had the radio crap out (was dropping all calls and data connections) and had to exchange, and another friend is having major battery issues (and of course the battery is not meant to be accessed on the iPhone). That's about a 30% failure rate in iPhone owners amongst my close friends.
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And you're a fool for including coverage of at&t along with battery problems with mine and dude who started thread's hardware issues.
I'm sorry you had a hard time with your iphone, I myself think at&t fail hard so I really don't know where you thought I was saying iphone is the best, but get with the program you're comparing iphone 3gs with my supposed iphone4 contender the g2... maybe if you said something about the iphone4 I would care.
As I stated before at least iphone has a huge customer base to be among other things, scared of. on the other hand we get pissed on by android os phone manufacturers in the horse races playing catchup with apple to try and get consumers using droid phones. So I get duped into buying this g2 and nobody gives a damn. Btw this phone went down in price very quickly which goes to say it sucks.
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And you're a fool for including coverage of at&t along with battery problems with mine and dude who started thread's hardware issues.
I'm sorry you had a hard time with your iphone
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You misread, I don't own, and will never own an iPhone.
My friends iPhone radio issue has nothing to do with ATT coverage, which you are again completely misreading (and ATT is actually excellent in my market). Her iPhone worked fine for almost a year, then either the radio software or hardware failed. The issue was completely repeatable at the ATT store. The ATT rep then put her SIM in a different iPhone, and it worked fine. So it was obviously a issue with the phone, not the network.
If you think the iPhone 4 is so much more awesome than the 3GS, you must have slept though Apple's antenna design fail. You should also research the instances of cracks in the supposedly unbreakable (or at least very difficult to break) Gorilla Glass. And the iPhone 4 also has proximity sensor issues.
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Who forced anyone to buy X product? Don't forget that you have a choice. These things are like food. A delicacy to one, is the most unappetizing thing to another. Aren't you glad you can choose which one to buy?
....a little research into what you are buying goes a LONG way
^^Nice first post^^
OP, have you called TMo customer service and asked about the problems your having? I've had nothing but excellent service from them with one small exception that was resolved very quickly. If your still in the buyers remorse (14 day) period they will send out new in the box units or allow you to exchange the phones for something different. If not, they still have a one year warranty, so you can get them replaced....
Hope you get things settled soon....
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^^Nice first post^^
OP, have you called TMo customer service and asked about the problems your having? I've had nothing but excellent service from them with one small exception that was resolved very quickly. If your still in the buyers remorse (14 day) period they will send out new in the box units or allow you to exchange the phones for something different. If not, they still have a one year warranty, so you can get them replaced....
Hope you get things settled soon....
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yeah I think when I get back home next week I will try that, the thing is I don't know how long it might take for them to repair the phones
if they do repair them I will try the milestone II instead.
Raioneru said:
yeah I think when I get back home next week I will try that, the thing is I don't know how long it might take for them to repair the phones
if they do repair them I will try the milestone II instead.
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If your out of the remorse period, they will send out replacement units, bare bones so to speak (no battery, SD card, back cover or charger)... In my case they sent them out priority and I had the replacement in three days. You don't return the defective units until the replacement arrives, so no down time.
Raioneru said:
yeah I think when I get back home next week I will try that, the thing is I don't know how long it might take for them to repair the phones
if they do repair them I will try the milestone II instead.
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T-Mobile will send you replacements before you send the defective units back. Basically they send you replacements, then you send the old ones back in the same box(es) they delivered them in.
Hope you get your issue resolved....
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If your out of the remorse period, they will send out replacement units, bare bones so to speak (no battery, SD card, back cover or charger)... In my case they sent them out priority and I had the replacement in three days. You don't return the defective units until the replacement arrives, so no down time.
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oh! so should I go to a local store and do that, or should I do it online?
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oh! so should I go to a local store and do that, or should I do it online?
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Dial 611 from your phone and ask for technical support. They'll walk you through it from there.
More importantly, how did you get a g2 with a track ball?
Sent from my CyanogenMod powered G2.
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And you're a fool for including coverage of at&t along with battery problems with mine and dude who started thread's hardware issues.
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Since the battery is built into the phone and cannot be removed, I'd say that counts as a "hardware issue".
Which isn't really the point here.
The point is that faulty devices will always exist, and the more complex the device, the higher the number of faults.
Yes, the iPhone wouldn't have had the issues that you had.
Because the iPhone doesn't have a slide-out keyboard.
Or an optical trackpad.
See?
Follow that line of thinking through, and you're back in featurephone land.
Fact is, smartphones are complex. Manufacturing faults are inevitable. You just got unlucky. Twice. How unlucky? Well, so unlucky that I've never heard of a single other case of this "inverse-polarity-like sliding mechanism".
Doesn't make it a bad phone tho.
Related
http://www.androidcentral.com/incredibles-screen-causing-consternation-some-how-about-you
If you wanna skip to the good stuff, see this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQRgT3gtmsI
It's comparing an Eris, Droid, and 3 incredibles.
It seems that whenever the incredible isn't grounded or being held it becomes unresponsive.
Heres an example in a car dock..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXB1MjYM5Ks
How many of you are getting this problem? It's actually a pretty big deal even though it wont stop me from getting the phone when its back in stores..
I'll just throw a case on it.
Also, doesn't it make sense that this is the reason why it suddenly became impossible to get an incredible?
The reason we've gotten is AMOLED shortages but they're probably fixing this in the background.
I really hope so, because the first thing IM gonna do when i get this phone is test this **** out LOL
I've never ever had any issues with screen response. I tried to duplicate the issue in that video on my own with no success.
What halt in production!?
at our office we tried the exact test with 8 incredibles and every single one of them worked fine.
I think that happened to me a few times. I figured I was taxing the hell outta the processor with my fast clicks.
Mine has done it from Day 1. Just can't seem to get worked up about it.
Happens to me when its in the car dock, takes a few tries to get a response.
Interesting stuff. Tested mine on a variety of surfaces right now and it worked fine. I bought mine on launch day FYI.
@lexluthor
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...t&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=5269
As you can see it says "due to high demand" they wont ship til 6/28!
Also I went in yesterday and they also said it would be around 3 weeks.
I've called about 5 stores and get the same thing from everybody.
HTC is simply NOT shipping these phones atm.
Shortly after they were made aware of this design flaw.
The Inc is by far the most responsive phone that I've ever used, much more so than either the Droid or the Eris. I have also compared it to the N1 and whatever the issue was with that, they definitely fixed it.
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@lexluthor
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...t&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=5269
As you can see it says "due to high demand" they wont ship til 6/28!
Also I went in yesterday and they also said it would be around 3 weeks.
I've called about 5 stores and get the same thing from everybody.
HTC is simply NOT shipping these phones atm.
Shortly after they were made aware of this design flaw.
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Not at all true.
http://androidforums.com/htc-incredible/75303-date-you-ordered-received-phone-vs-will-ship-date.html
Phones are indeed shipping out.
So, again, what halt in distribution?
Sure, they are having trouble getting the parts to put together the phone and they are way behind, but I don't think there's any evidence at all that they have halted distribution to fix a major problem.
Lex, those forum posters purchased in the month of may.
The same month that this problem was discovered in a good portion of phones.
HTC was notified of this issue in mid to late may.
Since then (according to your own link) nobody was getting phones without a delay of at least a few weeks.
Those who had already purchased phones, still got them, but with a delay.
Those who hadn't had to wait longer (some time in june).
I am pretty certain that they slowed production to make sure that phones which were shipped didn't face such issues.
If it was merely a shortage of AMOLED displays, then answer me this.
How come the evo 4g, nexus one, desire etc are shipping out like mad with no news of shortages?
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The Inc is by far the most responsive phone that I've ever used, much more so than either the Droid or the Eris. I have also compared it to the N1 and whatever the issue was with that, they definitely fixed it.
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Mine is only unresponsive in a car dock mounted on window, with no ground...
Only had it like a week, is this something people have sent phones back because of?
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Lex, those forum posters purchased in the month of may.
The same month that this problem was discovered in a good portion of phones.
HTC was notified of this issue in mid to late may.
Since then (according to your own link) nobody was getting phones without a delay of at least a few weeks.
Those who had already purchased phones, still got them, but with a delay.
Those who hadn't had to wait longer (some time in june).
I am pretty certain that they slowed production to make sure that phones which were shipped didn't face such issues.
If it was merely a shortage of AMOLED displays, then answer me this.
How come the evo 4g, nexus one, desire etc are shipping out like mad with no news of shortages?
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Well the Evo 4G doesn't use an AMOLED display, so it is unaffected. As for the N1 and Desire, my best guess would be that no one is buying the N1 and since the Desire has been out for a while compared to the Incredible, demand is down.
Both my friend and I got our Incredibles on launch day (he got one at store, I got mine in mail from pre-order). We both have this grounding issue. For example, sitting on the couch with the phone next to me, the phone screen is so unresponsive I can't get past the slide unlock screen to open the phone unless I pick it up. Friend has the exact same problem on his couch.
The phone is still amazing and I don't let this ruin my experience, but the issue isn't a myth.
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Both my friend and I got our Incredibles on launch day (he got one at store, I got mine in mail from pre-order). We both have this grounding issue. For example, sitting on the couch with the phone next to me, the phone screen is so unresponsive I can't get past the slide unlock screen to open the phone unless I pick it up. Friend has the exact same problem on his couch.
The phone is still amazing and I don't let this ruin my experience, but the issue isn't a myth.
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Exactly, im just wondering if it was bad batch, hence maybe we should swap them out :S
You could call HTC, let us know if they're able to fix this..
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Lex, those forum posters purchased in the month of may.
The same month that this problem was discovered in a good portion of phones.
HTC was notified of this issue in mid to late may.
Since then (according to your own link) nobody was getting phones without a delay of at least a few weeks.
Those who had already purchased phones, still got them, but with a delay.
Those who hadn't had to wait longer (some time in june).
I am pretty certain that they slowed production to make sure that phones which were shipped didn't face such issues.
If it was merely a shortage of AMOLED displays, then answer me this.
How come the evo 4g, nexus one, desire etc are shipping out like mad with no news of shortages?
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Phones are SHIPPING, that's a fact. There's no "halt in distribution". Supply is obviously lacking, but your theory about it having to do with the screen is just a theory with no real backing behind it at all.
Call HTC, do whatever, try to get confirmation, but until you do, it's really just a guess on your part if they are doing anything at all about this possible issue.
*update*
I just got off the phone with Verizon Rep about the unresponsive screen problem. who didn't know anything about this situation, I made him transfer me to a Verizon Tech after a lot of negotiating.
The Verizon Rep decided to stay on the line with me, and we both spoke to the Verizon Tech about the issue.
After a long explanation on my part, they say its not in there Reported faults so I made Sarah the tech I was talking to go to this forum, and lots of other forums, and search Google for to find information out about this issue.
She found lots of people mentioning they had reported it to Verizon, but it wasn't in the reported faults section.
Therefore she said she noted it in that section, and also forwarded it to HTC as an urgent notice.
She then went on to tell me, that when she dug deeper into their system that she found a couple of cases of where this had happened, and they couldn't find a fix for it so a new phone was shipped.
So it ends up, I have a new phone on its way by Fed-Ex overnight shipping, so it should be here within 2 days. I have not had to pay the $35 restocking fee, and hopefully the new phone won't have the same issue.
Ill update as soon as I get the new phone.
Thanks
This problem does not happen to me as much as some of you. Maybe once a week at the most. Although, to change the subject a bit.. I do get the HTC logo when exiting apps or Killing apps sometimes and it hangs up on the loading screen for about 15-20 seconds. Once again, I figure Im taxing the CPU a little. I still love this phone and hope HTC can take down Apple Corp. (aka Cyberdyne) some day
Hey Guys,
what do you think about starting a petition against Samsung and TMO?
I for one paid $650 for this device thinking i could pull it out , install software and roll not even the need to root.
then, I ran into all the common issues. Lag,Gps,all kinds of things.
I was thinking we should start one. To get them scared and moving. Maybe if there is a lawyer on here? Maybe there is some legal aspect we can all sue on.
It' not right for them to release a device that doesnt perform as they say it does. and make promises on release dates. When they cant even fix 2.1.
First Off..How Did You Pay $650 For The Phone When The Phone Costs $500
Second, You Have No Lawsuit
Erickomen27 said:
First Off..How Did You Pay $650 For The Phone When The Phone Costs $500
Second, You Have No Lawsuit
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From radio shack. The price was $650.
Since i did not have a TMO account TMO would not sell me the phone. and i had to go to radio shack and that was their price. Day 1 of sale.
I even tried to dispute this with american express. showing them the price of it from TMO / Radioshack. They said I signed it knowing the price.
I had no choice.
Honestly..That F*cking Sucks
You Didn't Have A Friend That Could.. Oh Wait You Used Credit Card Right?
Never Mind.
But Back On Topic, Theres No Lawsuit Simply Because Everything Works, Yeah Theres A Little Lag, Yeah The GPS Isn't The Greatest, But The GPS Still Works :\
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Honestly..That F*cking Sucks
You Didn't Have A Friend That Could.. Oh Wait You Used Credit Card Right?
Never Mind.
But Back On Topic, Theres No Lawsuit Simply Because Everything Works, Yeah Theres A Little Lag, Yeah The GPS Isn't The Greatest, But The GPS Still Works :\
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Yes. it does suck. and i tried to even pay cash. and ask an employee to buy it for me and or ask a customer to buy for me. But, they refused.
So, i was FORCED to go to radio shack. Honestly, who knows. maybe i can go to TMO and complain. maybe get a full refund and buy it again at 400 or so used.
*SHRUG*
Im just angered that it doesnt work right for the money. $650 is not cheap. Now, I called about the G2 and they want $600 and i hear the G2 has bugs as well.
Bunch of BS.
You have GPS that works? I'm not sure my GPS has ever gotten a lock on. And I'm not flashing anything as I have a hardware locked phone.
I've never heard of a petition working for anything ever
I actually think there is a case to be had considering the facts. No matter what anyone tells me the GPS did not work AT ALL when I bought the phone stock. Only after rooting and installing JI2 GPS files and playing around with the settings did I get a working GPS. Now after JI5 I finally have it at the point where it works like it should. Of course now TECHNICALLY my warranty is void even though I have to knowhow to put it back to stock but you get the picture. Not sure it would win in court but it would certainly make it to court and would scare them into trying to release an update.
Ok seriously though... why not just root and fix this yourself? Even if you do sue them it wont be released any earlier.
I dont want to hijack your thread, but dude we will all be happy one day when Samsung and T-Mobile roll out Froyo (yeah we dont know when, but IT WILL HAPPEN). I just watched this video on what Samsung did for Captivate with Froyo and I am really impressed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9YnSVvfHpQ
Right, because a couple of people on the internet makes a petition they will RUSH to release it. T-Mobile and Samsung have better lawyers than you. The only thing you'll do is waste their time.
What are you going to sue them for? Your phone turns on, you have GPS, it runs, an NOTHING is broken. GPS is software. They already said they're going to release an update soon. Be patient.
Go to JI2, better batter, and better GPS. Lagfix. Solved.
And just for the love of god, please be patient.
/rant
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Right, because a couple of people on the internet makes a petition they will RUSH to release it. T-Mobile and Samsung have better lawyers than you. The only thing you'll do is waste their time.
What are you going to sue them for? Your phone turns on, you have GPS, it runs, an NOTHING is broken. GPS is software. They already said they're going to release an update soon. Be patient.
Go to JI2, better batter, and better GPS. Lagfix. Solved.
And just for the love of god, please be patient.
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Well technically threre could be a class action law suit. Not saying he would win anything but its possible. Remember the iphone 4 and reception issues. I agree that it is stupid right now BUT im pretty sure he could do something.
I think if there is a lawyer among us here. we could do a class action. as the last person said. Look at iphone 4 with the receoption issue.
We have the same issue on our phones. Death grip. So tech, we have two issues, never mind the lag.
And, the person who said. Rom/Lagfix/kernel. Thats un-acceptable for $650 USD. It should "JUST" work.
And if you read before you droped $650 on a phone, that there was issues. If you knew about said issues in your 15 day return period, then you could've have said $650 dollars back.
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And if you read before you droped $650 on a phone, that there was issues. If you knew about said issues in your 15 day return period, then you could've have said $650 dollars back.
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Very true. But i was hoping as most companies back their products the fixes would be out. And what do they do? Release a G2 with more issues?
Seriously, Now i see why they said TMO will go out of biz within the next two years.
They are morons.
Well, you could do the legal thing. Five, perhaps ten years later you might get your $650 back. But friends don't let friends do Radio Shack. That place died a slow cancerous death some 20 to 30 years ago.
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Well, you could do the legal thing. Five, perhaps ten years later you might get your $650 back. But friends don't let friends do Radio Shack. That place died a slow cancerous death some 20 to 30 years ago.
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It would have to be a class action suit as was said before. Its not worth it for one person.
And, I was forced to go to Radio shack. Which is why i think i can get a refund. ill just complain about all the issues and being forced to go to a store and pay more.
Also, the petition does not have to be about money. It can be about updates being pushed. No reason ATT should be on 2.2 and we are not! same phone. Same software. Same everything.
*shrug* I've lost my patience.
If anyone is interested I have a bricked one. For sale. PM me.
I have no problems at all with my g2. I suppose you can't please all the people.
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I think if there is a lawyer among us here. we could do a class action. as the last person said. Look at iphone 4 with the receoption issue.
We have the same issue on our phones. Death grip. So tech, we have two issues, never mind the lag.
And, the person who said. Rom/Lagfix/kernel. Thats un-acceptable for $650 USD. It should "JUST" work.
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Vibrant death grip is far more exaggerated and even in the youtube video the phone worked fine even with the death grip issue unlike the iPhone 4. And how is the G2s loose hinge T-Mobile's fault? So the iPhone 4s death grip issue is At&ts fault? Maybe YOU are the moron!
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Vibrant death grip is far more exaggerated and even in the youtube video the phone worked fine even with the death grip issue unlike the iPhone 4. And how is the G2s loose hinge T-Mobile's fault? So the iPhone 4s death grip issue is At&ts fault? Maybe YOU are the moron!
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I dont think the deathgrip issue is exaggerated at all. I dont hold my phone like that but if I did, I would be dropping calls like crazy. I can be on the phone with full bars and as soon as I grip the bottom (even with a case) the call drops. I also live in a metropolitan area so it shouldn't be lack of signal. Like I said, not a huge deal for me since I rarely ever hold the phone in a deathgrip way BUT I can definately see a difference when I was testing it.
Basically you wont get anything for trying to bring a lawsuit based on buyers remorse. Let's be honest. That's what you have. Not that I blame you. But your claims or virtually claimless in court. As far as trying to get Tmo or Samsung to act. Doubt it. You'll just waste your time and theirs.
I feel your frustration. I have a virtually dead Vibrant here b/c its hardware key locked. Im having to wait for a replacment and thats very inconveint for the cost of this phone. But you would have to prove negligence on their part and I don't see that happen. Intentional negligence against a corporate business is damn near impossible with "real" proof. Let alone what seems like gripes about a phone that you think should work a certain way.
If you brought a Z06 Corvette for $75,000, you cant be made b/c it doesnt go 205 but just 198 mph. Just the reality of it.
I suggest you do whatever you can to work with Radio Shack, Tmobile, or Samsung to get your issue resolved instead of trying to fight them.
So I have seen from several people around the thread that they were able to get a Nexus S 4g as a replacement for their OG EVo. I was wondering what would be some specific reasons to receive this replacement or what I would need to say to tech support.
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I'm wondering this as well.
i just bought one for $220 on Craigslist. now i have the evo and the nexus. best of both worlds!
You must meet these four criteria
1 be on a replacement..at least once
2 convince them that you can not leave the house for a period of time...i said I was sick and couldn't leave the house
3 the phone had problems that are mostly specific to gingerbread...ex force closes and random reboots
4 say you've talked to a manager and they said a nexus s could be a replacement
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You must meet these four criteria
1 be on a replacement..at least once
2 convince them that you can not leave the house for a period of time...i said I was sick and couldn't leave the house
3 the phone had problems that are mostly specific to gingerbread...ex force closes and random reboots
4 say you've talked to a manager and they said a nexus s could be a replacement
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Not true. I simply went to a.service center because of problems with a charging port. They checked it out and verfied it was bad. When they went to order a replacement the nexus s came up as an option so I took it. Take this forewarning, signal on the nexus is horrible, even with the 2.3.5 update.
tapa tapa tapa
Just called Sprint today and got them to send me a Ns4G. All I did was explain to them how terribly unhappy I was with my EVO since the GB update. I might have exaggerated a few issues but they hooked me with the nexus and a nib at that! The "adavanced" tech support guy told me they have gotten tons of complaints about the EVO since the update. He also mention that another update was going to offered for the nexus starting on the 5th, said it was supposed to resolve the radio and battery issues......anyone hear of that? Anyway, since I have had bad reception since the GB update for my evo, I guess I might still have to deal with that......oh well, at least I'll have root again!
ahhhhhh.......going todash.........
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Just called Sprint today and got them to send me a Ns4G. All I did was explain to them how terribly unhappy I was with my EVO since the GB update. I might have exaggerated a few issues but they hooked me with the nexus and a nib at that! The "adavanced" tech support guy told me they have gotten tons of complaints about the EVO since the update. He also mention that another update was going to offered for the nexus starting on the 5th, said it was supposed to resolve the radio and battery issues......anyone hear of that? Anyway, since I have had bad reception since the GB update for my evo, I guess I might still have to deal with that......oh well, at least I'll have root again!
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Will you tell me who you called, and if you asked for some specific department, or what you said to receive the Nexus instead of going to the store or getting a replacement evo? When I call they send me to the tech guys and they say that I need to bring it in to a store or they will do a hard reset. So i guess im wondering how you convinced the tech guy to send a Nexus?
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Will you tell me who you called, and if you asked for some specific department, or what you said to receive the Nexus instead of going to the store or getting a replacement evo? When I call they send me to the tech guys and they say that I need to bring it in to a store or they will do a hard reset. So i guess im wondering how you convinced the tech guy to send a Nexus?
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Why are you trying to scam a new phone? Total douche move IMO.
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Why are you trying to scam a new phone? Total douche move IMO.
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Because it's a total douche move of Sprint and HTC to lock the gingerbread bootloader. The Evo is the phone that made sprint relevant, and now for whatever reason a year into its lifespan it becomes LESS moddable instead of more? I approve of the action of trying to dump the evo based on this alone. They have to learn that these devices are ours to mess with, not theirs to lock down.
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Because it's a total douche move of HTC to lock the gingerbread bootloader. The Evo is the phone that made sprint relevant, and now for whatever reason a year into its lifespan it becomes LESS moddable instead of more? I approve of the action of trying to dump the evo based on this alone. They have to learn that these devices are ours to mess with, not theirs to lock down.
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Now that I corrected your post, since Sprint isn't the one that wanted the bootloader locked, I have a solution to this thread:
Buy one.
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Now that I corrected your post, since Sprint isn't the one that wanted the bootloader locked, I have a solution to this thread:
Buy one.
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I agree with you in that usually the answer is don't be a freeloader and just buy the stuff you want. But consider this analogy: I buy a used car, and it worked fine, then I modified it by giving it good tires, suspension, engine upgrades, and made it completely my own. I don't expect the car to be under warranty at all because I've now made it my own, but I do have insurance. My car is crashed into, insurance replaces my car. But now, for some god damn reason when I get the car back, every bolt has a lock on it that I can't get the keys for. I BOUGHT this car originally, but now I can't modify it the way I like, when originally I very specifically went out and bought this kind of car because I CAN modify it? You can't sell someone something, then change what that something is.
A lot of us bought evos because we can modify them. And **** happens, phones get lost and dropped and whatever, that's why we have insurance. But the new evos that they get replaced with do not have the functionality that we want them to have. And they're being replaced with ****ty rebuilt evos, the worst of all worlds. So I see no problem with wanting something comparable, IF you're paying for the insurance and they're replacing the insured device with something that has less functionality. So I do very much agree, that scamming Sprint to get a free new phone is very shady and scummy. But if the product being replaced is less functional than the original, I see no problem with a "side-grade," a comparable device that costs them no more money to replace than the original device, being that they sell for the same amount. Ya feel me?
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Will you tell me who you called, and if you asked for some specific department, or what you said to receive the Nexus instead of going to the store or getting a replacement evo? When I call they send me to the tech guys and they say that I need to bring it in to a store or they will do a hard reset. So i guess im wondering how you convinced the tech guy to send a Nexus?
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Seriously I spent 3 hours on the phone and got nowhere.
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I agree with you in that usually the answer is don't be a freeloader and just buy the stuff you want. But consider this analogy: I buy a used car, and it worked fine, then I modified it by giving it good tires, suspension, engine upgrades, and made it completely my own. I don't expect the car to be under warranty at all because I've now made it my own, but I do have insurance. My car is crashed into, insurance replaces my car. But now, for some god damn reason when I get the car back, every bolt has a lock on it that I can't get the keys for. I BOUGHT this car originally, but now I can't modify it the way I like, when originally I very specifically went out and bought this kind of car because I CAN modify it? You can't sell someone something, then change what that something is.
A lot of us bought evos because we can modify them. And **** happens, phones get lost and dropped and whatever, that's why we have insurance. But the new evos that they get replaced with do not have the functionality that we want them to have. And they're being replaced with ****ty rebuilt evos, the worst of all worlds. So I see no problem with wanting something comparable, IF you're paying for the insurance and they're replacing the insured device with something that has less functionality. So I do very much agree, that scamming Sprint to get a free new phone is very shady and scummy. But if the product being replaced is less functional than the original, I see no problem with a "side-grade," a comparable device that costs them no more money to replace than the original device, being that they sell for the same amount. Ya feel me?
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Listen, I'm not saying I'm not upset with HTC about it.
I can't get my phone repaired [usb failure] because I want to maintain root.
However, just because HTC did something like this doesn't justify scamming Sprint.
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Because it's a total douche move of Sprint and HTC to lock the gingerbread bootloader. The Evo is the phone that made sprint relevant, and now for whatever reason a year into its lifespan it becomes LESS moddable instead of more? I approve of the action of trying to dump the evo based on this alone. They have to learn that these devices are ours to mess with, not theirs to lock down.
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You cannot possibly be an adult. Grow the **** up kids, no one promised you that the Evo would have an unlocked bootloader. The phone is yours to mess with once you buy it and HTC and Sprint won't stop you. But it's Sprint's supply chain, they can buy it from HTC whichever way they want to, locked down or not & you agreed to allow them to send updates to your phone when you signed that contract. It's your choice to buy it as is or to take the OTA update. Live with it or buy a new phone.
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Because it's a total douche move of Sprint and HTC to lock the gingerbread bootloader. The Evo is the phone that made sprint relevant, and now for whatever reason a year into its lifespan it becomes LESS moddable instead of more? I approve of the action of trying to dump the evo based on this alone. They have to learn that these devices are ours to mess with, not theirs to lock down.
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The bootloader has always been locked. HTC just patched the exploit
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He also mention that another update was going to offered for the nexus starting on the 5th, said it was supposed to resolve the radio and battery issues......anyone hear of that? Anyway, since I have had bad reception since the GB update for my evo, I guess I might still have to deal with that......oh well, at least I'll have root again!
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This isn't a bad reception thing. The radios in the Nexus are generally bad, ridiculously bad: WiFi, 3G, voice, all of them are terrible. Its a sweet phone but the signal issues are quite sad and makes it rather frustrating to use the phone. The July 25th update was supposed to address these issues as well and from my experience it is no better. Signal quality is a known issue for the Nexus and it is the poor quality antennas and radios that Samsung uses that makes me question their devices as a whole. I'm just happy I also have my E3D so that I can actuall get a signal when using my phone.
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Listen, I'm not saying I'm not upset with HTC about it.
I can't get my phone repaired [usb failure] because I want to maintain root.
However, just because HTC did something like this doesn't justify scamming Sprint.
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I'm not talking about scamming sprint at all, I'm talking about a comparable replacement. I very much love Sprint and their customer service has been excellent; I misspoke when I blamed them and didn't think about the fact that they are not to blame, HTC is.
That being said, the NS4G goes for a very similar price. Also, I'm talking about legitimate cases of loss or theft in which it's not my fault that the phone, set up the way I like it, is gone. Then the phone is replaced with, at best, a non-unlockable version, and at worst, a ****ty rebuilt replacement with screen issues or crappy USB ports, etc. Why should I, the customer who is paying for the insurance, be supplied with a lesser phone? It would be Asurion replacing my phone, not Sprint, but because they are so disconnected it makes things difficult. I would simply want the phone I lost to be replaced because I'm paying for insurance. They should provide me with what I'm paying to insure, not some weird new less functional device. Again, Asurion, not Sprint. Sprint has only been good to me thusfar.
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You cannot possibly be an adult. Grow the **** up kids, no one promised you that the Evo would have an unlocked bootloader. The phone is yours to mess with once you buy it and HTC and Sprint won't stop you. But it's Sprint's supply chain, they can buy it from HTC whichever way they want to, locked down or not & you agreed to allow them to send updates to your phone when you signed that contract. It's your choice to buy it as is or to take the OTA update. Live with it or buy a new phone.
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I know this is the way it is, but just because something is some way doesn't mean I should have to live with it or not try to change things. I won't bore you with tales of history in which we have changed the norm to suit society better, nor am I under the delusion that being stuck in a lame contract is as heavy as the idea of slavery or bigotry. But I don't make a habit of sitting idly by and getting screwed over by large companies just because they told me I had to. I'm sure at least those of us who are over 25 on here work very hard for their money (I do), and I don't like being jerked around based on the whim of a corporation. I very much understand what you are saying, and I'm not under the impression that Sprint and the hacker community are pals and that they're backing out on a promise. I'm just saying, I don't see the issue with swapping to an extremely comparable phone IF your phone is already lost/stolen/destroyed, you're on insurance, and you simply prefer to have the other option. Same as if I felt like going to the Samsung Epic. Very similar phones, they're already replacing it, why does it have to be the same phone, especially when the same phone simply isn't the same anymore?
EDIT: Also fellas, I'm not intentionally being challenging with either of you or being argumentative for the sake of trolling or whatever, I'm legitimately just enjoying a robust debate on a lazy Tuesday evening. Thank you for the discussion guys
I choose not to commit insurance fraud myself. Let's remember that OS developers have an obligation to patch exploits. We are not guaranteed a rooted device unless you buy a dev phone.
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I'm not talking about scamming sprint at all, I'm talking about a comparable replacement. I very much love Sprint and their customer service has been excellent; I misspoke when I blamed them and didn't think about the fact that they are not to blame, HTC is.
That being said, the NS4G goes for a very similar price. Also, I'm talking about legitimate cases of loss or theft in which it's not my fault that the phone, set up the way I like it, is gone. Then the phone is replaced with, at best, a non-unlockable version, and at worst, a ****ty rebuilt replacement with screen issues or crappy USB ports, etc. Why should I, the customer who is paying for the insurance, be supplied with a lesser phone? It would be Asurion replacing my phone, not Sprint, but because they are so disconnected it makes things difficult. I would simply want the phone I lost to be replaced because I'm paying for insurance. They should provide me with what I'm paying to insure, not some weird new less functional device. Again, Asurion, not Sprint. Sprint has only been good to me thusfar.
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Asurion only handles the replacements when a deductible is paid, otherwise it's Sprint.
Also, all carriers use Asurion for their replacement insurance.
It's not Sprint's fault that HTC patched a hole in their bootloader security, therefore it's not fair for them to lose out on money.
If Sprint gives you a different model just because of a software update that does nothing but, essentially, increase the security of the phone....well...they lose out and that's just not a viable reason for them to lose out.
Root will be achieved, it sucks I know but, relax.
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The bootloader has always been locked. HTC just patched the exploit
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Well this is the unfortunate grey area, and an oversight on my part... apologies, didn't mean to simplify too much. However, I did buy the phone because of the exploit, this is why I didn't go with a different phone. My side of this is a hard one to defend; surely patching the exploit was considered a security issue. But they had to have known what they were doing, which I can never prove, so my case would never hold up in a court of law, and I know this. It just irritates me and I fear the day that I lose my phone or it gets stolen because I'll be stuck with a crappy, half-assed gingerbread updated Evo, which seems wrong to me.
And more importantly, how did you get them to switch you without using an upgrade? I'm not trying to con a phone out of Sprint or anything, I just don't feel I'm getting what I paid for with my Shift, the flex cable keeps breaking and then I'm stuck with a non-working phone for a week while they order a refurb which I still have to drive to the store and pick up. The manager of my local store told me today that there was absolutely no way for him or any other store to switch me to another device. I called sprint and talked to everyone and there was no way for me to get into another device without making an insurance claim and paying 100 dollar deductible or moving my upgrade up for 105 dollars which would mean another long 2 year wait not to mention still having to purchase a new phone. Asurion offered me an LG Optimus (for 100 dollars?!) and I about lost my temper but kept my cool. So would I would like to know is how did you get Sprint to switch you out for a NS4G. (Retentions?)
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Frustrating process with Sprint ended in them telling me there is no way for me to switch to another phone without paying money, losing my upgrade, or both. Want to know how some people have switched to the NS4G.
5 minutes and I switched back to shift.
I was told the only way a customer gets a different phone, is when they have had their original model replaced a minimum of 4 times... That's what the Sprint store in Fond du Lac, WI and Sheboygan, WI told me...
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Seems like I hear a different thing every sprint employee I talk to. The manager at my local store claimed that 4 days ago an internal memo forbid all store employees from switching customers into any other devices no matter what. When i called in they at least tried (claimed she couldn't get approval to switch me) but ended up offering me a bunch of BS all which involved me spending money and losing my upgrade in November. I guess I'll go get another shift and wait for the flex cable to fail again. *sigh*
Does depend on which Store you go to, and who you speak to. I have great luck with the corporate stores. They always take care of my issue, no mater what it is. But I've gone to regular Sprint dealers, and they just try and run me in circles. I was told by a corporate store that after 3x's they would exchange "most" devices. If the issue, or issues were not customer related.
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5 minutes and I switched back to shift.
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Had the Nexus S for a full two days. No way I would trade my Shift for one. Also had the EVO3D almost two days. Same story, the Shift flat out smokes them both IMO .
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Had the Nexus S for a full two days.No way I would trade my Shift for one. Also had the EVO3D almost two days. Same story, the Shift flat out smokes them both IMO .
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Well, I think the only reason to want a nexus s would be for those people that are so adjusted to amoled screens, that anything else actually hurts their eyes. I personally love the shift's Super-LCD display, and am fine with the brightness/battery life ratio. In my opinion, its why I won't get a OG Evo of the 3D, cause pentile is bad (3d) and regular LCD doesn't have as bright of colors (OG Evo)
I am in the same boat. My second shift in a month is on backorder again and they told me they couldn't switch. The first lady i talked to tryed to switch me to the nexus, but wasn't approved. I finally talked to guy that seemed in the know and what pretty nice. he told me they won't switch out phones anymore because too many people were abusing the system and getting different phones all the time. Also, he said the rule about getting a different phone after four has changed since sprint carries the iphone. he said there is too much money wrapped up in the iphones to allow that rule anymore, and they have been told they can't do it. So, you are just stuck with what you have. They ordered my replacement monday and it is still on backorder.
Yep I now have a shift on back order as well, just dandy!
I must of gotten lucky with my shift because I've never once had any of these issues most people talk about on these forums...like many others have said, there is not too many phones that are like or just as good as the shift. When it comes time for me to upgrade I might just tell sprint there is no phones I want to upgrade to until they make another htc slider phone.
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I must of gotten lucky with my shift because I've never once had any of these issues most people talk about on these forums...like many others have said, there is not too many phones that are like or just as good as the shift. When it comes time for me to upgrade I might just tell sprint there is no phones I want to upgrade to until they make another htc slider phone.
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100% with you on that. Never have any of my phones have given me any problems although i am on my second shift but thats cause my first one decided to go swimming in a lake after i did my very first flash to CM7 lol
The most common problem with the shift is the flex cable... If you think about it, it should be expected, with users constantly opening and closing the keyboard... I love my shift... I wont be upgrading soon because sprint doesnt have any phones I'm interested in... I just wish they had a better design for the flex cable, at least so it lasts 2 years...
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I love the shift too. my flex cable has broken twice in two months. my problem is i just don't like going this long without a phone.
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The most common problem with the shift is the flex cable... If you think about it, it should be expected, with users constantly opening and closing the keyboard... I love my shift... I wont be upgrading soon because sprint doesnt have any phones I'm interested in... I just wish they had a better design for the flex cable, at least so it lasts 2 years...
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Most definately agree with that . But I think they do it for planned obsolescence. Otherwise most people would just keep the phone for a longer time. Which is definately not what they want. But the cable is easy enough to fix.
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Most definately agree with that . But I think they do it for planned obsolescence. Otherwise most people would just keep the phone for a longer time. Which is definately not what they want. But the cable is easy enough to fix.
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Oh believe me I plan on keeping this bad boy as long as possible! There's a flaw to your planned obsolescence theory, the stuff breaks way before they plan and ends up costing them way too much money in the end. I think it's more of a engineering design fail if anything, but so far so good here, no hardware failures...
Same here no issues, knock on wood. But a lot of times when you go in the "Tech" ( who knows less about the phone than we do ) tries to tell you that it's something you did wrong. Had a Tech try to tell a friend of mine with a Virgin, untouched, unrooted, two month old Shift. That the reason his screen went out was because he was trying to root the phone. I looked him dead in the Eyes, and said your full of it. Then handed him my phone running SS v9, and asked him if it was rooted. He looks at it for a second then says I'd have to test it first . But yes your correct, an engineering glitch can cost them money in the long run.
the only issue i have with my shift is that the hinges are a little bit lose, but i guess that comes from usage
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The most common problem with the shift is the flex cable... If you think about it, it should be expected, with users constantly opening and closing the keyboard... I love my shift... I wont be upgrading soon because sprint doesnt have any phones I'm interested in... I just wish they had a better design for the flex cable, at least so it lasts 2 years...
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Agreed 10000%. But the repair guy I was talking to also said the quality of the Shift and HTC as a company has gone down. He has been repairing way more HTC than Samsung devices as of late. If Samsung makes a new slider, I'm on it.
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Agreed 10000%. But the repair guy I was talking to also said the quality of the Shift and HTC as a company has gone down. He has been repairing way more HTC than Samsung devices as of late. If Samsung makes a new slider, I'm on it.
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You would wait forever for official updates though :/ only reason why i won't/can't switch to them
Couldn't do another Samsung . The last one almost got thrown out the window, literaly. I'm stuck on HTC .
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Couldn't do another Samsung . The last one almost got thrown out the window, literaly. I'm stuck on HTC .
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Bad news for Samsung keeps on coming
AT&T will allow any of its customers with replacement Samsung Galaxy Note 7 devices to swap them out for a different smartphone, the company tells The Verge. The move follows Sprint's decision to let its customers return replacement Note 7s for a device from a different manufacturer on the heels of a replacement Note 7 catching fire on a plane earlier this week. The US Consumer Product Safety Commission has opened an investigation into the fire.
At this rate it's likely that Verizon and T-Mobile won't be too far behind in offering to swap out replacement Note 7 devices. With the uncertainty around the safety of the Note 7, offering a full exchange is the easiest way to ease the worries of consumers until the CPSC completes its investigation. If you're an AT&T or Sprint customer, you can take your replacement Note 7 back to the carriers' respective retail stores and exchange the devices for another smartphone of your choosing.
http://www.theverge.com/circuitbrea...tt-samsung-galaxy-note-7-replacement-exchange
Interesting. Not sure what i would do. So far i am enjoying my replacement note 7. If it comes to it i guess i will have to make a decision but i need more info before making that move. Its a shame, Samsung makes good stuff, its unfortunate they are having these issues. We shall see
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If the pixel lured me more I would be all over this but it's just meh. Only reason would be for the software and to be honest. touchwiz isn't as bad as I remember it...this is coming from a nexus guy.
I just called AT&T and none of the Reps seem to know anything about this so called return hmmm.
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I just called AT&T and none of the Reps seem to know anything about this so called return hmmm.
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Yeah I also called. The rep put me on hold to do some research on it and read it . It's something all reps doesn't know about yet. You have to the end of the month to do so. I have the option to switch it out to another device or just return it for a free refund. He made sure that was stated on my account for me to not have problems.
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I just called AT&T and none of the Reps seem to know anything about this so called return hmmm.
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Yep, it's probably craziness in the near future for us, all over again. All four carriers are allowing an exchange now, Ihttps://www.google.com/amp/www.theverge.com/platform/amp/circuitbreaker/2016/10/7/13202250/att-samsung-galaxy-note-7-replacement-exchange
I don't see a future with note 7 in hand. I do love the phone., hope it's not recalled again but its not looking good.
At leaset in the next few weeks we will have a few more phone choices...... unlike last month. I am thinking of.jumping to the V20 if a 2nd recall happens
This really sucks because I've fallen in love with my Note 7. There's not even any other phone on AT&T that I would get with the exception of the S7 edge. I'm really hoping this guy turns out to be a scam artist.
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This really sucks because I've fallen in love with my Note 7. There's not even any other phone on AT&T that I would get with the exception of the S7 edge. I'm really hoping this guy turns out to be a scam artist.
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Carriers must know something we don't... I think if there was any chance of this being fake they wouldn't have reacted this way so quickly. I think they know something we don't.
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Carriers must know something we don't... I think if there was any chance of this being fake they wouldn't have reacted this way so quickly. I think they know something we don't.
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I know. I might jump ship. The carrier's have to know something. Since when does AT&T reach out to Android Central to tell them they are also on board with the device turn in.
I feel there is little choice but to change. It's only a matter of time before the next report of a burning replacement and good luck selling this second hand in the future . I will try the v20. I wish I had kept my Note5 and not lost $350 on selling it.
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Carriers must know something we don't... I think if there was any chance of this being fake they wouldn't have reacted this way so quickly. I think they know something we don't.
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I've been thinking the same thing all day. A CSPC official said in an article that if the phone was a replacement one that there will more than likely be another recall.
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and here i am completely unable to even buy a note 7. AT&T keeps telling me no since i opted for the refund instead of a loaner phone. I fumed so much over that.
Not even sure which phone to go with. The Note 7 was the only phone that checked all the boxes. I sold my S7 Edge to get it, and I am not going to go buy another one.
-big screen
-water resistance
-expandable storage
-fast charging
-no on screen buttons
Not necessarily guys, relax. They may be doing this just to cover their own ass. I would like to believe that if anything real serious was known an announcement would be made my Samsung.
We shall see i the days to come. Samsung reacted quickly the 1st time, lets see what happens
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I just hope the v20 has a good screen.
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Not necessarily guys, relax. They may be doing this just to cover their own ass. I would like to believe that if anything real serious was known an announcement would be made my Samsung.
We shall see i the days to come. Samsung reacted quickly the 1st time, lets see what happens
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I just feel this phone will be at the bottom.of the pile like a non flagship budget. For cases, accessories, updates ect... . Not many people are on board with the note 7, if there is no recall not many will be on board with all the bad press. So why would anyone put any effort or invest money/more products into the note 7. Speaking. Of, we will surely not see a functional.curved glass SP. In my line of work tempered sp is a must. One reason why I may go v20, same.screen real estate as the note 7 but not curved so SP will actually stay on.
The note 7 and bogo deal was the only reason I upgraded and added a phone to my plan. Samsung had no other device I want so now I may get screwed out of the bogo and have to pay more each month than I had originally planned and I can't take back my note 5 now, which I gave to our functioning disabled son
Its absolutely tragic that this is happening. I really wanted this device to be my go to for the next couple of years. Its my first phone since the Note 4 was released and its a beast! I guess in the race to create a flagship like this Samsung has finally cut too many corners. It seems to me that the inherent design of the battery and the chassis just aren't optimal. They should have spent a bit more time on the battery enclosure and possibly reduced the battery capacity slightly to compensate for the tight tolerances. Im not even really sure that would have done anything to help. But anyhow, I think the rest of the community will probably feel the pain. I have already started looking at other devices, leaning (for the first time in 8 years) towards another iPhone. Or I can go to the Pixel xl. Everything other than the Note 7 released this year has been such a let down though.
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Its absolutely tragic that this is happening. I really wanted this device to be my go to for the next couple of years. Its my first phone since the Note 4 was released and its a beast! I guess in the race to create a flagship like this Samsung has finally cut too many corners. It seems to me that the inherent design of the battery and the chassis just aren't optimal. They should have spent a bit more time on the battery enclosure and possibly reduced the battery capacity slightly to compensate for the tight tolerances. Im not even really sure that would have done anything to help. But anyhow, I think the rest of the community will probably feel the pain. I have already started looking at other devices, leaning (for the first time in 8 years) towards another iPhone. Or I can go to the Pixel xl. Everything other than the Note 7 released this year has been such a let down though.
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I'm in the exact position bro. Wow off topic but I just took my phone in the shower with me and obviously it got soaked and now the loud speaker sounds all distorted...
Chadly said:
I'm in the exact position bro. Wow off topic but I just took my phone in the shower with me and obviously it got soaked and now the loud speaker sounds all distorted...
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For sure! Yikes, I believe that steam and heat actually causes the rubber seals to loosen a bit. Its one of the only ways that you can actually get water damage on these devices other than taking them too deep in the water. Sorry bud, Im sure you can still give it back though when/if you decide too. lol
So it's not normal for the loudspeaker to sound like crap after? It seems like it's back to normal now.
Chadly said:
So it's not normal for the loudspeaker to sound like crap after? It seems like it's back to normal now.
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Yes it is normal until it dries out.