I've been getting fed up with T-Mobile lately, the coverage at my house is limited, if not non-existent.
I was wondering if anyone would care to share their experiences with Sprint's network (4g speeds/coverage, reliability, etc). Also, experiences with the Evo itself (battery life, durabilty, accessory quality/quantity, etc)
I'm currently using a Nexus One, if that makes a difference.
Thanks!
Seems like your biggest issue is your coverage at your house. Best advice I can give you is go get an EVO, go home, check to see if you have good signal and 4G.
U can download map viewer from the market check the Sprint 4g coverage
And as for battery life it was not until I rooted that I felt I was getting the most out of it my battery life dramatically changed
And I've had nothing but a good experience I came from a moment so honestly tht was not the best Android experience so this phone have to say im really surprised by this device and what it can do if u have played around with one it really is not the same as owning it and since Sprint has the 3o day money back guarantee u should defin try itout and see if its for u
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U can download map viewer from the market check the Sprint 4g coverage
And as for battery life it was not until I rooted that I felt I was getting the most out of it my battery life dramatically changed
And I've had nothing but a good experience I came from a moment so honestly tht was not the best Android experience so this phone have to say im really surprised by this device and what it can do if u have played around with one it really is not the same as owning it and since Sprint has the 3o day money back guarantee u should defin try itout and see if its for u
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Punctuation is so overrated these days.
You will love an Evo, Sprint is a great company and the customer service has come a long way.
Try it for 30 days free, if not satisfied then return it, (yes you can root it and still return it)
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I've been getting fed up with T-Mobile lately, the coverage at my house is limited, if not non-existent.
I was wondering if anyone would care to share their experiences with Sprint's network (4g speeds/coverage, reliability, etc). Also, experiences with the Evo itself (battery life, durabilty, accessory quality/quantity, etc)
I'm currently using a Nexus One, if that makes a difference.
Thanks!
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Sprint actually has pretty good coverage in the San Francisco area. It's really hard to build new towers there nowadays so younger networks (T-Mobile) or older networks that are now overloaded (AT&T) have a really tough time working well there.
I suggest you take advantage of Sprint's 30-day unconditional return policy and test drive the EVO 4G for a few weeks. If you don't like it, or it doesn't work well for you, you can return the device and pay nothing (no restock fee or prorated usage fee, or anything).
Reiterating what others have said, signal in your home/area is going to vary, and your best bet is to try it out.
Sometimes while you are in the 30 day window, if you try to cancel due to lack of signal in your home the store will offer the signal booster thingy (I can't remember the name) and wave the monthly fee. It connects to your router and essentially gives you a tower in your home over the internet.
As for the EVO, I've had a Hero and a T-Mobile G1, and I love the EVO. It does everything I want, and then some. Rooting is key though, and I think the best battery life comes from the custom roms on these forums.
Give it a go for 30 days without canceling your T-Mobile phone. At the worst, you'll pay for a month of service on both lines. Once you test it out though and determine Sprint is the way to go, you can transfer your number from T-Mobile.
Oh, and 4G sucks the battery from your phone, so it's really rather useless in my opinion, unless you're tethering and plugged in, otherwise it's as good as a cable connection.
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U can download map viewer from the market check the Sprint 4g coverage...
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This map is crap. The map indicates that I have excellent coverage at home and work and is not so. Do what tgruendler said. Get the phone, take it home and test it and see what you think.
When I first got my Evo a lot of people I knew were saying "it's a nice phone and all, but you had to go to SPRINT?"
Now the Evo also marks my maiden voyage with Sprint, so I don't know the history that may have gotten them this bad rep ... but I have to say I've been nothing but pleased. I bought my phone a mere 2 weeks before my road trip across 4 states in 3 weeks (started in Georgia and ended up in Washington DC). During the ENTIRE road trip I had signal. Now I didn't call people, but I did use google maps and Nav and I maintained data the entire time (some minor blackouts in Mentone Alabama looking for an old friend's wedding ... but if you saw where I was you'd completely understand too ... and GMaps still got me there fine).
So while during this trip I saw 4G go up and down ... I will say their data was consistent. I uploaded photos to facebook nightly, took pictures all day, and even occasionally handed the phone to the kids to stream you tube videos (OK I had to plug in for that ... phone can't handle 4-6 hours straight youtube).
My only complaint with this phone while on 2.1 an touring ... was that 4G would destroy my phone (only when connected ... 4G seemed to idle fine in areas with no coverage). By destroy i mean that doing the same heavy uploading of images would kill the phone in about 4 hours.
Now back in the home land of LA ... vacation is over and I'm making more calls than you tube videos. In this case it's more of a Sprint vs ATT conversation (my old provider) and I have to say: Sprints coverage blows away ATT in all areas here. I consult .... meaning i travel all corners of the southland. While Sprint may have bad signal reception occasionally ... it _never_ disconnects. In contrast my ATT signal was always clear .... when it bothered to connect and would disconnect _constantly_ even when driving down major highways. So I like the Sprint service much better.
My Phone has "evolved" with me which is huge. 4G is now here where I live ... but I've also learned to root and tweak my EVO ... and I leave 4G on all day now and can make it from wake up to home with the wife and kids on one charge without having to plug in (I do tend to car charge every so often if i know I'm going to be on a long conference call or can't resist flashing a new ROM during my lunch break ... but that's not suprising). Between 2.2 improvements and wonderful after market ROMs and tweaks, the EVO isn't nearly as bad of a battery vacuum as it was when I first got it so it's to the point that I just leave all the features enabled (except wifi ... i don't see a point when 4g is faster than _any_ free wifi spot that is always over congested).
The ONLY thing I really don't like about Sprint is that i don't get voice and data at the same time. 4G fixes that (another reason i leave it on all the time)... but it's coverage is honestly spotty ... unlike Sprint 3G this one really is location sensitive.
The phone itself ... is awesome. I just can't complain as it still feels cutting edge after 6 months of having it (or is it 7 now ... i forget).
Summary: the battery used to be BAD with 4g turned on. 2.2 improvements and a good community changed all of that... and the phone is flexible and powerful enough that I don't care what's been released sense. I would love a longer battery life (who wouldn't), but considering I basically have a PC in my Pocket I'm OK with that trade off.
EDIT: one other negative I should note: I noticed with the stock HTC ROM having 4G turned on would occasionally make the whole phone stutter and lag, even when doing trivial things like scrolling between home screens. It would actually made the phone feel slower with 4g turned on if i wasn't directly doing a data intesive task. Custom ROMs _completely_ solved that problem. For the record i currently use Myn's Warm 2.2 RLS4 on the HTC17 kernel with the battery tweak, and all sense ripped out I could get away with (rosie pulled out compeltely, gingerbread keyboard, etc), and those stutters are a thing of the past.
Fantastic phone! Great network. Sprint is working hard to improve the quality of their customer service and doing a good job. They have already rolled out WiMax, so if you are in a coverage area you should be getting some pretty snappy speeds there. I also like the fact that Sprint isn't afraid to look at other technologies. I read an article the other day indicating that Sprint will probably begin developing an LTE network to work alongside the WiMax. All things considered, I would definitely recommend the Evo and Sprint
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Fantastic phone! Great network. Sprint is working hard to improve the quality of their customer service and doing a good job. They have already rolled out WiMax, so if you are in a coverage area you should be getting some pretty snappy speeds there. I also like the fact that Sprint isn't afraid to look at other technologies. I read an article the other day indicating that Sprint will probably begin developing an LTE network to work alongside the WiMax. All things considered, I would definitely recommend the Evo and Sprint
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Yeah - I couldnt have said it better my self...
Been with Sprint now for 9 years and have no complaints, they are like brandy - only getting better with age...
EVO is by far the best phone out there and Sprint is (IMO) by far the best carrier out there...
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I've been getting fed up with T-Mobile lately, the coverage at my house is limited, if not non-existent.
I was wondering if anyone would care to share their experiences with Sprint's network (4g speeds/coverage, reliability, etc). Also, experiences with the Evo itself (battery life, durabilty, accessory quality/quantity, etc)
I'm currently using a Nexus One, if that makes a difference.
Thanks!
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hey i had tmobile< i had the blackberry 9700 and an unlocked iphone i loved the phones but the coverage was horrible inside buildings, i went to best buy and got an evo on a temp number and carried both my phones around and sprint was gret in buildings or where ever i went u should go get the evo and test like i did
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U can download map viewer from the market check the Sprint 4g coverage
And as for battery life it was not until I rooted that I felt I was getting the most out of it my battery life dramatically changed
And I've had nothing but a good experience I came from a moment so honestly tht was not the best Android experience so this phone have to say im really surprised by this device and what it can do if u have played around with one it really is not the same as owning it and since Sprint has the 3o day money back guarantee u should defin try itout and see if its for u
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Oh wow. -.-
Not one period in all of the rambling and misspellings/retarded text speak. Please act like you have an education. kthnx.
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Oh wow. -.-
Not one period in all of the rambling and misspellings/retarded text speak. Please act like you have an education. kthnx.
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So, you came in here SOLELY to flame that kid? Hahaha
@everyone else: Thanks! All great info. Once I get the cash together I'll test it out for sure.
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Oh wow. -.-
Not one period in all of the rambling and misspellings/retarded text speak. Please act like you have an education. kthnx.
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Hey no reason to be grumpy
I type quick used to jus doing tht way
And I honestly think ignite have nothing nice to say Dnt say it
But hey I guess it take one to kno one
Have a nice night kthnks
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So, you came in here SOLELY to flame that kid? Hahaha
@everyone else: Thanks! All great info. Once I get the cash together I'll test it out for sure.
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Yea a lot of grumpy people on here but also a lot of nice people who can actually offer help instead of nasty remarks blah but way r u gonna do any way good luck and happy holidays
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Not having a signal at home isn't an issue if you're with Sprint. When my wife and I moved into our new house back in May, we found out a little too late that our house was in a dead zone and there was absolutely no signal inside on any carrier. We had to step outside to make a call or send a text. After a couple months, I called Sprint and told them what was up. Without question, they offered me a free Airave. No equipment cost, no monthly charges. All they asked was that I send it back to them if I ever leave Sprint in the future. We both get full signal in every room of the house now.
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Not having a signal at home isn't an issue if you're with Sprint. When my wife and I moved into our new house back in May, we found out a little too late that our house was in a dead zone and there was absolutely no signal inside on any carrier. We had to step outside to make a call or send a text. After a couple months, I called Sprint and told them what was up. Without question, they offered me a free Airave. No equipment cost, no monthly charges. All they asked was that I send it back to them if I ever leave Sprint in the future. We both get full signal in every room of the house now.
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O wow really I'm kinda in a similar situation jus moved to a new area like 3 months ago and I get zero reception unless I'm near a window and hanging out of it lol guess ill have to call sprint
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O wow really I'm kinda in a similar situation jus moved to a new area like 3 months ago and I get zero reception unless I'm near a window and hanging out of it lol guess ill have to call sprint
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Yeah, I was pretty surprised. I didn't have to beg, argue, or demand anything. As soon as I told them what was up, the dude just asked if it would be okay if they sent me one for free. Uh... yeah, that's okay with me! lol
I'm in an area far from 4G coverage (Southern Illinois) but after 10 years with Sprint I've been nothing but pleased. I've gotten free upgrades, free features, and all sorts of perks from some very helpful customer service people. On top of that I've never had a billing issue (unlike nearly everyone else I know on a certain other network). The only issue I have is I don't particularly care for their website, but that's just me.
As for the EVO, I upgrade from the Hero two weeks ago and I LOVE it. I definitely don't regret getting it.
Oh, another thing I like about Sprint: When I call customer service, 9 times out of 10 I'm connected to somebody in CONUS and not someone with English as a 3rd language. lol
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gotta say.. its nice..
My buddy FINALLY got an Android phone. The G2. He decided on that over the Sprint Evo Shift 4g.
The phone is built quality. I like the way '4g' utilizes the 3g radio, and not a separate radio to toggle. Automatically switches to the faster network.
4g tests, both had full bars. The Sprint 4g was consistently faster by alot, 6.5mps vs 2.5mps although on 2 occasions the Tmo 4g reached 6.5mps as well. Latency was consistently much lower on Tmo.
The keyboard, it took the epic for me to take interest in keyboards again (after horror of PPC6700/PPC6800-mogul) Quite a different feel in the buttons. They are big, although the overall footprint is smaller than the Epic's. And they are mushy feeling. I feel a harder button reacts faster for quick button mashing style texting.
At least for me. But is something I could get used to. The hinge I do no see to be a problem at all either.
The phone itself is a little weighty. But that goes hand in hand with the strong industrial feel. The use of metal vs plastic feels of quality build. Makes you feel like it will break you, before you break it.
Screen size 3.7in Super-TFT, as coming from the mammoth Evo's 4.3in screen foundation, down to the pretty 4.0in found in the Epic; I didn't miss it. Those of you spoiled by the Samoled, one thing you wouldn't get over are the black levels. Not nearly as breathtaking..
800Mhz was pretty quick in stock form. Didnt notice a difference between the Evo or Epic's powerplant while stabbing at the screen and instantly having a reaction.
Charging time. Typical HTC, utilizing fast charge system. Noticeable much faster charging system than what is implemented in the Samsung Epic. Placement of the charging port is a bit cumbersome for one-handed use, [protrudes from left of device] as one may find it difficult to manage in the left hand. But when using the slider, the port is located at the bottom now and is free from obstructing your commands.
Compass, sensors, GPS, and magnetic shielding. As expected, the HTC had no problems locking on being inside the home. I have to make mention that the Samsung also had no problem locking on under the same conditions.
The compass in both were accurate, [using the Compass app free in market] but the compass was much more reactive to every movement. Though I suspect the 6 axis accelerometer in the Epic to be reason.
While still using compass, holding the phones side by side resulted in the Epic's compass to completely change course. The Epic is terribly vulnerable to interference, as the G2's compass stayed rock solid. I am willing to bet that this is the result of lack of magnetic shielding.
So there you have it, my impressions of the G2. I find it hard to believe that I will purchase a Samsung mobile device anytime soon. As to me, HTC is still the best manufacture currently of phones out today. Not talking about whats on paper, but under real world use.
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gotta say.. its nice..
My buddy FINALLY got an Android phone. The G2. He decided on that over the Sprint Evo Shift 4g.
The phone is built quality. I like the way '4g' utilizes the 3g radio, and not a separate radio to toggle. Automatically switches to the faster network.
So there you have it, my impressions of the G2. I find it hard to believe that I will purchase a Samsung mobile device anytime soon. As to me, HTC is still the best manufacture currently of phones out today. Not talking about whats on paper, but under real world use.
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Nice review, I've been trying to get my brother off the IPHONE 3g and onto Android. The G2 might do it.
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Nice review, I've been trying to get my brother off the IPHONE 3g and onto Android. The G2 might do it.
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Thank you for that, just wanted to express my experience with the device. But it turned into a review the more I went on lol.
Yes I know its hard to wing off the Iphone users lol.
I admit I am anti-Iphone but its because of facts and opinion, not fanboyisms.
But my bud always had the candy bar phones from cricket, sprint, tmo, and he always could not understand why I am on my phone so much. This was even back when I had the mogul, diamond, hero etc.
its been growing on him after I have shown him things on the Evo and Epic. He admitted its cool, but he would never use all that. He just needs a phone to make calls and text he stated. The Epic really did a number on him because he know how I wireless tether, how pretty the screen is etc and wanted a phone to do all that now lol.
He first decided to get the android device from Cricket, the Ascend, and was curious if it could do at least half of what mine did. Well the very spotty coverage shot that out lol. The reason he is not on Sprint with the Shift, is because he didnt wanna spend the extra money of of pocket (rebate)
But even at that, he is paying off the phone monthy like 20$ <- you can beat Tmo with payment plans for phones. Wished Sprint did this.
My bud is super happy, never puts the phone down lol. I am glad to be such an influence.
Nice review man... I like to see our phones compared with others even though it seems to loose this one with the build quality and such... good job.
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Maybe you should review the phone again and post it on youtube. My brother also has a ifail damn I mean iphone 3something. He can't stand the fact that android beats its in every way. Between the evo and epic kinda hard to say which phone truly owns the iphone
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definetly the epic apple sucks... and im not a fanboy I've had 3 ipod touches and in order to stand them I have to jailbreak with android you can do a lot more without rooting.
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Thanks for the kind words
I've never uploaded a video of me talking lol but I will practice while I give it thought
blackdragon79 said:
Maybe you should review the phone again and post it on youtube. My brother also has a ifail damn I mean iphone 3something. He can't stand the fact that android beats its in every way. Between the evo and epic kinda hard to say which phone truly owns the iphone
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I'd honestly say that the Epic owns pretty much every other phone...
... except for the build quality, support, and just the manufacturer in general. I must say that I love my phone. But, the GPS not working, the keyboard missing keys, and the crappy support just KILLS it.
I owned Htc MTS3gs and 2 samsumgs(Epic and Behold 2),i gotta say that from that expirience Samsung has better hardware and phones feel more solid,but MTS3Gs was so snappy and lag free for a 600mhz phone it was amazing even with Sense.
2G is only 3.7 screen and no Amoled so its no go for me.Until htc starts making Amoled screens im not fckin with them-i refuse to use regular lcd phone even if it has dual cpu and nvidia.
I got tired of my Epic missing keystrokes and Sprint's flaky 4G service so I switched to the G2.. Much happier. Here in Atlanta, HSPA+ is a steady 6mbps indoors and out, and like you said the latency is much lower.
If you want to jump ship to TMobile, this phone is being offered free with contract (I think) so it's definitely a good deal.
After dealing with the Moment and then the Epic's problems, I've gotta say that HTC is simply the better choice.
Thanks for that. I posted this morning, on my FB this: Debating ending my 8yr relationship with Sprint, and starting up TMO? I ended up with 58 replies in that thread. Yes I know I will miss the pretty screen, the hummingbird etc. but the G2 felt fast too. plus it can be OC beyond hell, takes advantage of JIT, Dev support etc.. its looking mighty fine lol
I gotta friend thats gonna hook me up with a good deal when i switch. gonna pickup the mytouch 4g for the baby mamma, and g2 for myself. BUT I will be back on the Sammy Vibrant 4G when that releases as it will utilized the UPGRADED HSPA+ 21mbps (and later on 41mbps)
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I got tired of my Epic missing keystrokes and Sprint's flaky 4G service so I switched to the G2.. Much happier. Here in Atlanta, HSPA+ is a steady 6mbps indoors and out, and like you said the latency is much lower.
If you want to jump ship to TMobile, this phone is being offered free with contract (I think) so it's definitely a good deal.
After dealing with the Moment and then the Epic's problems, I've gotta say that HTC is simply the better choice.
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Nice review, it is a nice phone. Just some input from a former Nexus One T-Mobile user. I absolutely loved my Nexus One but just could not put up with T mobiles spotty coverage hear in South Florida. It was almost unbearable. I truly believe carrier coverages vary from region to region but here in South Florida T Mobiles coverage was super spotty. Sprint coverage down here is definitely much better but I would love to see how the new T Mobile 4g coverage performs because Sprints 4g coverage is horrible! My phone is constantly going from 3g to 4g down here. Very annoying!
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Nice review.
I actually bought the G2 the day it released(it's early release) and I loved it...Honestly the only unappealing thing I can think of is the screen quality compared to the Epic. Nothing beats the epics screen. But the G2 Blows the EVO away IMHO.
Unfortunately I seem to live in a t-mobile black hole and couldn't stand not being able to use the phone at home so I turned it in and got the Epic.
I do miss that phone...
thanks for the input! where I live at home I get badass coverage for 4g with Sprint.
now very true, the coverage is verrrrry spotty.. it works here and there in a 0.2 mile difference in distance.. even look up the coverage map and that even shows it.. I will have 14 days to decide TMO works for my needs, where I live and around. (also hate that 4g drops on the epic under load)
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Nice review, it is a nice phone. Just some input from a former Nexus One T-Mobile user. I absolutely loved my Nexus One but just could not put up with T mobiles spotty coverage hear in South Florida. It was almost unbearable. I truly believe carrier coverages vary from region to region but here in South Florida T Mobiles coverage was super spotty. Sprint coverage down here is definitely much better but I would love to see how the new T Mobile 4g coverage performs because Sprints 4g coverage is horrible! My phone is constantly going from 3g to 4g down here. Very annoying!
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thank you sir,
yeah it will suck adjusting to the screen. also the camcorder quality I will cry over. I had the Evo release day. if you say it trumps the Evo then thats good..
drakkahn said:
Nice review.
I actually bought the G2 the day it released(it's early release) and I loved it...Honestly the only unappealing thing I can think of is the screen quality compared to the Epic. Nothing beats the epics screen. But the G2 Blows the EVO away IMHO.
Unfortunately I seem to live in a t-mobile black hole and couldn't stand not being able to use the phone at home so I turned it in and got the Epic.
I do miss that phone...
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The only thing I hate about T-Mobile is the fact they don't offer unlimited data... they offer up to 5gbs.... so weak
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So I looked at sprints coverage map again, and noticed that same as before for me, they show I should have full bar 4G coverage on my 1 acre property. I don't get any 4G at all until I go down the street a couple hundred feet.
I called them tonight, finally pissed off about it, and the first guy told me tough sh!t, that coverage maps were a total guestimate and didn't matter. Finally ending up talking to this girl who actually helped me out. She told me I would need to go by a sprint repair shop, thankfully one is 2 mins down the road from where I work, and have them check it out, and if they say it is fine, or replace my phone, and I still cannot connect, they will see what can be done next.
Background.
At first they went to tell me about the 30 days and so forth. I pointed out how I broke a $300 ETF to move to sprint, and then paid another 200 for my phone, and another 120 for my bill, all within the first 30 days of start of service with sprint. I also pointed out that the moment I did that, I lost my unlimited data plan with AT&T.
So I have unrooted my phone, and I am sad cause my phone feels so lame running stock sense 2.2 when I had a awesome 2.3.2 CM7 and will be like that until I go by the sprint store tomorrow evening. So I am hoping they somehow make good on their end when I get back home, and still get no 4G coverage, just like the other 4 evos that have been at my house my friends have get no coverage.
anyone else have issues like this? I was really just ranting cause I want to either have 4G or a carrier that I actually get 4G with at my house, when they say I will.
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You ever look at clears maps? They're a lot more detailed.
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You ever look at clears maps? They're a lot more detailed.
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they were different about a month ago, checked last night and they match to a T for where I live.
you're not going to get sympathy...err...just leave sprint and get a thunderbolt. 4G with sprint sucks anyways. I get faster 3G most of the time.
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you're not going to get sympathy...err...just leave sprint and get a thunderbolt. 4G with sprint sucks anyways. I get faster 3G most of the time.
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i am on the phone with sprint right now trying to terminate my contract without an ETF since I was lied to about coverage. They are sending me to "account services" right now to talk about it. I have been lied to and run in circles so many times trying to fix this issue. It is making me so mad.
doesn't help I haven't slept in like 30 hours lol.
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i am on the phone with sprint right now trying to terminate my contract without an ETF since I was lied to about coverage. They are sending me to "account services" right now to talk about it. I have been lied to and run in circles so many times trying to fix this issue. It is making me so mad.
doesn't help I haven't slept in like 30 hours lol.
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Good luck. Let me know how it goes. I'm trying to figure out why coverage sucks so much at my house, despite both Clear and Sprint's 4g coverage maps claiming I should have good coverage.
Cheers
mylasthope said:
Good luck. Let me know how it goes. I'm trying to figure out why coverage sucks so much at my house, despite both Clear and Sprint's 4g coverage maps claiming I should have good coverage.
Cheers
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well I ended up going way up sprint somehow. And eventually I talked to some manager who started cursing me out and calling me names and lying to my face. He said the only reason I have connection problems at my house was because I don't turn my phone off for extended periods of time during the day. lol... Needless to say I had his manager listen to that call and next thing I know I have no ETF, a sprint EVO 4G to sell, and an HTC thunderbolt that is so fast it isn't funny.
Congrats-what's the speed tests showing so far on average?
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so i guess i shouldve come here and read more about the ns4g before i even got one. the reason why? the reception of course. and when i call sprint wanting to return it it sounds like they will say anything to get you to keep it.
the store i ordered it from (they were out of stock but had one sent to my house 2 days later) wouldnt take it back because "the manager sold it to me and only he can do the returns/exchanges for the items he sells"
so then i called sprint and they wanted to give me an airave. why would i want that? i didnt need it with my evo why should i need it now? because the ns4g has issues thats why.
so then i did some searching around and found out theres 3 "open tickets" in illinois. so of course after they ask my zip code they find it in there as one of the affected.
is the issue on this phone so bad and they sold so many that everyone wants to return them?
i got the feeling sprint doesnt want it back because they know it might not get sold again or something.
i dont know im just disappointed in both the phone and the way i was being handled. i really dont want to pay verizon prices and tmobile isnt that much cheaper in fact is now more then what im paying for my plan
I felt the same way with a fascinate from Verizon. Fortunately I returned it. I think that if you look around here longer, you might find some answers to your problems. I found that Samsung didn't meet my expectations, but hope you can mod it to your satisfaction....
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I felt the same way with a fascinate from Verizon. Fortunately I returned it. I think that if you look around here longer, you might find some answers to your problems. I found that Samsung didn't meet my expectations, but hope you can mod it to your satisfaction....
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Not sure what is up with the Samsung hate. The Fascinate isn't Samsung's fault. That is completely Verizon's fault. Other SGS do not have the problems the Fascinate has.
I do not own an SNS4G (I've got a T-mobile 3G). I love my phone and feel it has a higher build quality than "better" HTC and Motorola phones (note that heavy and/or metal backs do not equal quality).
I don't know what the issue is with the Nexus S 4g but my Nexus S is amazing, battery life I great and I listen to music a lot, the keyboard is amazing and to top it all off you get Netflix! I would imagine the quality on Netflix over 4g would be amazing! Why people hate on Samsung is beyond me, at least they aren't HTC making overpriced Evos. Still give the Nexus S 4G a try, whatever issues you have with it ask on here and maybe there are solutions that you might not even know about. Trust me, no device on the market can beat the Nexus S, simply because of Stock Android. It really makes the device fly, even after not turning it off in weeks it runs smooth as silk.
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every issue im having is the same that others are having. **** reception
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I don't know what the issue is with the Nexus S 4g but my Nexus S is amazing, battery life I great and I listen to music a lot, the keyboard is amazing and to top it all off you get Netflix! I would imagine the quality on Netflix over 4g would be amazing! Why people hate on Samsung is beyond me, at least they aren't HTC making overpriced Evos. Still give the Nexus S 4G a try, whatever issues you have with it ask on here and maybe there are solutions that you might not even know about. Trust me, no device on the market can beat the Nexus S, simply because of Stock Android. It really makes the device fly, even after not turning it off in weeks it runs smooth as silk.
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I think you misread, he already has a Nexus S 4g and is having signal issues like others.
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every issue im having is the same that others are having. **** reception
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I had the NS4G for a few weeks - the reception is awful. I am outside of Chicago and in "best" coverage areas for 3G and 4G and would get 1 bar at best most of the time. Downtown coverage was good, but the signal strength compared to other Sprint devices was just poor.
If you picked up the device new or on a contract you have 14 days to return it - they cannot deny you that return in that window. If you purchased outright you have 30. Don't let them hassle you - go into the store and tell them you are returning the device. On your receipt (or received with your purchase) you should have a document explaining the exact return policy and timeline.
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I had the NS4G for a few weeks - the reception is awful. I am outside of Chicago and in "best" coverage areas for 3G and 4G and would get 1 bar at best most of the time. Downtown coverage was good, but the signal strength compared to other Sprint devices was just poor.
If you picked up the device new or on a contract you have 14 days to return it - they cannot deny you that return in that window. If you purchased outright you have 30. Don't let them hassle you - go into the store and tell them you are returning the device. On your receipt (or received with your purchase) you should have a document explaining the exact return policy and timeline.
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it was an "upgrade" so i do have 30 days. supposedly theres a tower outage thats affecting crest hill, fairfield, plainfeild, romeoville(where i am) and lockport plus a few more. the peoblem is that issue started on the 12th and is still ongoing.
i really want to keep this phone but if not and the tower issue isnt fixed by the 28th day im gonna jump ship. ill just have to figure out that unroot trick, it makes no sense to me. someone needs to make everything 1-click for idiots
how good is tmobiles service? do you ever go south like wilmington area or grundy county?
That excuse about the manager being the only one who can return it sounds like b.s....
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of course it is. and the guy knows im rooted too so i have to figure out how to un root it
oh and since i woke up ive been roaming......in my house. maybe i need to do some tethering today.
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it was an "upgrade" so i do have 30 days. supposedly theres a tower outage thats affecting crest hill, fairfield, plainfeild, romeoville(where i am) and lockport plus a few more. the peoblem is that issue started on the 12th and is still ongoing.
i really want to keep this phone but if not and the tower issue isnt fixed by the 28th day im gonna jump ship. ill just have to figure out that unroot trick, it makes no sense to me. someone needs to make everything 1-click for idiots
how good is tmobiles service? do you ever go south like wilmington area or grundy county?
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Service with T-Mobile is actually pretty good. In and around chicago you are set. In the Joliet, Plainfield, Crest Hill area service is great - data speeds are usually 2-5mpbs on speed tests. I almost always have full coverage. I don't have any issues with dropped calls or texts. Time is spent between the Chicago Area, Rolling Meadows/Schaumburg and Joliet/Plainfield/Naperville.
I travel through Wilmington to visit family and always have service (Even in fairly rural areas in Irquois county). Somewhere between 55 and 57 you'll drop to edge, but service remains good.
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of course it is. and the guy knows im rooted too so i have to figure out how to un root it
oh and since i woke up ive been roaming......in my house. maybe i need to do some tethering today.
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Unrooting is easy.
Grab this set of images and extract. If you have the SDK tools dir in your PATH then you can just cd to the extracted directory. If not then drop the files into the tools dir with fastboot.
http://wonderly.com/bb/CRESPO4G/OEM/GRJ22IMAGES.zip
Then:
Wipe your SD card.
Boot into bootloader manually or via ADB
From the command prompt:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash userdata userdata.img
fastboot erase cache
fastboot oem lock
You may get an error overwriting userdata - if you do you can just fastboot erase userdata
That's it.
what you wrote
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Service with T-Mobile is actually pretty good. In and around chicago you are set. In the Joliet, Plainfield, Crest Hill area service is great - data speeds are usually 2-5mpbs on speed tests. I almost always have full coverage. I don't have any issues with dropped calls or texts. Time is spent between the Chicago Area, Rolling Meadows/Schaumburg and Joliet/Plainfield/Naperville.
I travel through Wilmington to visit family and always have service (Even in fairly rural areas in Irquois county). Somewhere between 55 and 57 you'll drop to edge, but service remains good.
Unrooting is easy.
Grab this set of images and extract. If you have the SDK tools dir in your PATH then you can just cd to the extracted directory. If not then drop the files into the tools dir with fastboot.
http://wonderly.com/bb/CRESPO4G/OEM/GRJ22IMAGES.zip
Then:
Wipe your SD card.
Boot into bootloader manually or via ADB
From the command prompt:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash userdata userdata.img
fastboot erase cache
fastboot oem lock
You may get an error overwriting userdata - if you do you can just fastboot erase userdata
That's it.
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what i read.........
unrooting is easy.
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lol. i guess i just have to try and figure some of this stuff out. i have sdk, dont know what it does or how to use it. dont know if i have adb and probably wouldnt know what to do with it if i did. i have qpst and again dont know what it does or how to use it.
but thanks for the tmoblie info, i have a lil summer place in braidwood and i know the sprint signal is better there then in romeoville tho theres no 4g and thats where i do most tethering.
I have a sprint ns4g. Wherever I go I get the same signal quality as all my coworkers with evos and heros. I'm not sure but there has to be some differences in built versions.
My time without signal is usually 5% or less. I don't get it. I wish I had someone in the same spot as I am so we can compare two nexus phones side by side.
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I returned mine and got the evo 3d no signal issues what so ever. Also, the Evo 3d is just as smooth even with sense.
I went from a evo to the ns4g and love it. My signal is great, no dropped calls yet and my home office is in my basement, used to drop at least one call a week on the evo. battery life is incredible compared to my evo. I have not problem at all going a full day of normal usage on a full charge. i was lucky to get 5 hours on my evo. I did think about exchanging it for the evo 3d but decided not too, the size of the ns4g is perfect, the evo felt to big and heavy for me. everything i read about the 3d is that the battery sucks worse than the evo. battery is the most important thing to me in a phone. I would rather have the updates right away and forget the sense, i hate that crap.
btw, when i did my yearly upgrade i did try the htc arrive at 1st because i wanted to check out the windows phone, and sprint did give me a hard time at 1st on the exchange. with a little *****ing they took it back and waved the 35.00 restocking fee. you just have to be firm with them. I always deal with telephone sales, never the store, its much easier to get someone with authority. 2 years ago they even exchanged one for me after the 30 day period. I got the palm pre and hated it. it wasn't an official exchange, they sold me a bb curve for 199.00 and had me send the pre back on the sprint buyback and got 150 through that. not too bad since i was past the 30 day period. Just ask for the escalation department.
well im pretty sure that my home signal issues are due to a still open ticket which was opened on the 12th in my general area.
yesterday 30 miles south of me in the small town boonies my signal was 3 and 4 bars @ -76db and -65dbm with blazing old school 3g. i dont use speedtest or anything but it was fast as hell, yet no 4g down there.
and l was also 15 miles west of home in a more densly populated area and signal was just as good there.
I live in nampa Idaho and we have excellent sprint coverage here and I still have signal issues. On the evo I almost always had full bars. My nexus rarely has more than one bar.
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well im pretty sure that my home signal issues are due to a still open ticket which was opened on the 12th in my general area.
yesterday 30 miles south of me in the small town boonies my signal was 3 and 4 bars @ -76db and -65dbm with blazing old school 3g. i dont use speedtest or anything but it was fast as hell, yet no 4g down there.
and l was also 15 miles west of home in a more densly populated area and signal was just as good there.
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I've been having INSANELY bad service lately and I get mixed responses from people I know around here with sprint. I've experienced it on the EF02 modem, DK28, EC05, and am currently on EB13. This crap has been going on for about a week now. Anyone else experience this?
I'm running syndicate 1.2 right now.
Wait a few more days. They might be upgrading the local speed.
any way to know for sure? wouldnt they send out a notice letting customers know?
Whats your location?
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Greenville, NC
Two possibilities. One, the network is having severe issue. Two, your radios gone bad (which yes, it does happen). Either way, go to a sprint store that has service and repair. (a coporate one). They'll do a PoST test on your phone to check your radio. If it's bad, you'll get a replacement. If it's not, they'll check the towers in your area and possibly submit a network ticket. If that's the case then it's a waiting game.
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I've been having INSANELY bad service lately and I get mixed responses from people I know around here with sprint. I've experienced it on the EF02 modem, DK28, EC05, and am currently on EB13. This crap has been going on for about a week now. Anyone else experience this?
I'm running syndicate 1.2 right now.
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I've been having terrible service here in Lansing, MI too. I still get failed text messages a few times a day. My signal has been actin funky, 4 bars to 1X to 3 bars to no bars standing in the same spot. Data speeds seem to be slower too. I manually updated my PRL and tried EC05, EF02, and EG22 modems and nothing...
I wonder if sprint will do a radio test on my rooted device... don't wanna odin to stock for nothin..
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I've been having terrible service here in Lansing, MI too. I still get failed text messages a few times a day. My signal has been actin funky, 4 bars to 1X to 3 bars to no bars standing in the same spot. Data speeds seem to be slower too. I manually updated my PRL and tried EC05, EF02, and EG22 modems and nothing...
I wonder if sprint will do a radio test on my rooted device... don't wanna odin to stock for nothin..
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I'm going to drop this tidbit of info here, and nowhere else.
Sprint doesn't care that your device is rooted. It does not void your TEP. If an associate tells you otherwise, they're wrong.
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You are lucky, I've been able to send about 5 text messages today, and I'm a heavy texter. I've been trying for about an hour to send this last one. I have been getting sms fails like this on and off for almost a week. Calling is pretty hit or miss too sometimes.
I usually have about 2-4 bars, occasionally I get the 1X symbol.
edit: meant to quote wishkah
also, thanks reassuring me on that squshy, I heard that somewhere before but wasn't sure.
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I have been having erratic issues with text in MA i chalked up to network issues. I am a very heavy user of text lol I out text my 25 year old son LOL! Been with Sprint 4 months now and I average just shy of 1500 a month thank god for unlimited txt and now that football is here it is going to get a lot worst LOL
ive been through 5 epics the last month. literally. 3 from assurion and 2 from sprint. sprint finally gave me an airave which only helped inside my house. everyone else around me with any htc phone has no issues. there is something seriously wrong with the samsung hardware. the nexus s also has the same issues.
piss poor quality on samsungs part is to blame. the evo gets 9mb down on 4g im lucky to connect. 3g is a joke. and making a phone call outside my house requires me to walk down the street.
i live 10 minutes from sprints headquarters...
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ive been through 5 epics the last month. literally. 3 from assurion and 2 from sprint. sprint finally gave me an airave which only helped inside my help. everyone else around me with any htc phone has no issues. there is something seriously wrong with the samsung hardware. the nexus s also has the same issues.
piss poor quality on samsungs part is to blame. the evo gets 9mb down on 4g im lucky to connect. 3g is a joke. and making a phone call outside my house requires me to walk down the street.
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Quality comes in many forms my friend. For instance, we're not the ones with a manufacturer recognized charging port soldering durability issue. Or hardware revisions to get the display ribbon cable to last.
"but it's made with plastic! And mine's made with aluminum!"
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there are a few designs flaws with the charging port.
still, the epic should be classified as a rpos.
i still have the sero plan but verizon is looking really nice for twice the money.
sprint sucks simple as that.
i live 10 minutes from headquaters
so do i have any chance unlocking this pos and getting better productivity?
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there are a few designs flaws with the charging port.
still, the epic should be classified as a rpos.
i still have the sero plan but verizon is looking really nice for twice the money.
sprint sucks simple as that.
i live 10 minutes from headquaters
so do i have any chance unlocking this pos and getting better productivity?
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why would you keep getting the same phone if you have that big of a problem with it, the evo is cheaper now you know...
Also, i don't know if it matters, but when i flash a new modem, it usually fails the first time and passes the second time. I can also make and receive calls with more reliability than sms. seems like i just can't send a text with any reliability whatsoever.
so I log in to check my bill at sprint.com, wanted to browse as i am looking for another phone to play with.. LOl
it's been a year, got my deposit back! wahoot!
seeing a little credit in there is nice, I have to say form all the stories i have heard about sprint being on these boards for almost a year, I have had a pleasurable experience with them, the financing department is first class, had some billing issues with them and they were as pleasant as can be. I do feel their service can be better in their stores, as My trusty evo's charging port let go back in november, and i had some rough spots tryin to get sprint to help me, so i went to htc and they resolved my issue no problems, so in a nutshell i am a happy customer!
now, do i want a design4g, epic4g touch, or photon4g? LOL
Totally agree with you. I have had a very pleasant experience with Sprint as well. Had a couple small billing issues that were fixed very quickly and drop less calls now than with Verizon. I used Verizon for 9 years but the cost was getting out of control. So far over the last 20 months, I have saved $2256 by switching. Total win
Sprint is great for the price. Just wait til network vision rolls out and coverage increases.
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hah +1 for sprint gotta admit cept i just moved and i have ZERO coverage
note its northern wisconsin so i shouldnt expect to much i wish my evo had a unlocked sim slot i'd just grab a voice plan from att (closest tower is across the bay and its att of course)
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now, do i want a design4g, epic4g touch, or photon4g? LOL
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I have been itching for the epic touch 4g....
Grats! I remember when I got my deposit back...was stoked to have 2 free months of service basically. As far as upgrading your phone I would hold off on that. I just recently purchased the EVO 4G because I really wasn't too impressed with the newer phones. Granted they are better than the EVO but just slightly which to me isn't worth either the upgrade credit or the extra cash. Wait for some more ICS phones and then upgrade....i'm betting Samsung and HTC will come out with something great.
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hah +1 for sprint gotta admit cept i just moved and i have ZERO coverage
note its northern wisconsin so i shouldnt expect to much i wish my evo had a unlocked sim slot i'd just grab a voice plan from att (closest tower is across the bay and its att of course)
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Which part of northern Wisconsin? I use to live in a small town(Miladore) twenty minutes north of Stevens Point.
@brad check out the epic touch 4G thats what I'm looking at haha. My one year with Sprint is coming up April 15th. I know I'm not elgible for an upgrade but I figure ill treat myself anyway haha.
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right outside of bayfield wisconson hmmm hour east of superior beaaaautiful up here and no computer repair business so here i am
I agree, I have had a pleasurable experience with them, their service is excellent.
Brad, I would wait until MWC. I am having the same debate, I am going to wait for my 2 years to officially upgrade but if I get the chance to try a different handset I will. My wife needs a replacement EVO but I am kind of hoping they wont have one and we will have to get something else... we will see. But HTC is going to be launching something BIG this year!
I'm waiting it out too. Galaxy Nexus, sure it has LTE but it is last year's technology. I have very high hopes for MWC and shall be revealed there.
Out of Design, Photon, or Epic Touch?
Design has basically no development community. Smaller screen, and single core just doesn't cut it for me.
Photon has Motoblur and it is a worldphone, if you're into that kind of thing. It has a small but quality development community, jokersax has put out some good stuff for them. Unlocking the bootloader borks 4G. You can relock to fix 4G, and you can't relock with custom kernels.
Epic Touch used to have Loss of Signal, which was an absolute pain. It is pretty much gone now. Took a while to get AOSP on it, but they have accomplished. They have the strongest development community out of the three. I think it is BML but I'm not sure. If it is, hopefully they will be able to convert it to MTD sometime in the near future.
OR wait
i can never wait for my upgrade i have about 4 months til my contract is up ... sadly i maybe switching to the evil empire (at&t) :/
thanks guys! think im gonna wait, love my evo to death, and i just got a kindle fire so i got a new device to hold me over haha!
you guys are the best
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My wife needs a replacement EVO but I am kind of hoping they wont have one and we will have to get something else.
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Hahaha I know that feeling all too well. I dropped my LG Optimus S a few months back and the screen just stopped working and I remember hoping I wouldn't be able to fix it so that I would be forced to get a new phone
I was a year and 6 months with sprint when they cancel my contact, for data usage when I was on unlimited data plan. Don't be, glad be sad haa ha
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i can never wait for my upgrade i have about 4 months til my contract is up ... sadly i maybe switching to the evil empire (at&t) :/
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Have you considered calling them and letting them know that you have no service at your house. I was having the same problem as I live in a small town in southern california and they sent me a free airave. Granted its not the best solution in the world but it will provide you with coverage in your home as long as you have high speed internet.
I've had a few minor ups and down with Sprint as far as billing went, but next to nil issues with repairs or phone service. I wish it was my first year again. I've been with Sprint for close to a decade now.
As far as a new phone goes, I'm with one of the previous posters. There's yet to been a phone released that has made me want to make the switch. Especially due to many of the awesome ROMS that been developed for our phones in the past year or so. In some cases, it's literally like having a new phone every few months. lol
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In some cases, it's literally like having a new phone every few months. lol
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I've been preaching that for almost two years now!
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Have you considered calling them and letting them know that you have no service at your house. I was having the same problem as I live in a small town in southern california and they sent me a free airave. Granted its not the best solution in the world but it will provide you with coverage in your home as long as you have high speed internet.
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yes i have considered that but atm with google voice intergration i can still text fine over wifi so im content on waiting a little til i have more concrete plans and my internets its through phone company (it was through my cable in my previous town so i just hooked up a land line and/or use skype) thanks for the suggestion.
and my ex got the airave since it was tied to her plan damnit
I've been with Sprint since '99... And I've definitely had my ups and downs. Overall I'm very happy with my plan, unlimited, my Airave at no charge to boost signal at the house and my E4G that has a very mature development community... But I'm really hoping to see some quad core hotness released in the next few months...
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