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Is it possible? Id love to play with it lol
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Someone delete this lol I change my mind
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That's not going too happen. Windows is copywrited it'd be like stealing a copy of windows 7 and installing it on your pc. Illegal
As long it is a Windows 7 phone it has to be Windows OS. As for android which is opensource...
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its really hard to do.... but
why change your mind? just becuase someone said it was illegal?
Actually, its in the process of being done on the EVO, Its not final if it will work or start, but it was able to boot. Maybe at the End of the Summer, it may be available for the Evo, and it might get ported to the epic, but the chances are highly unlikely.
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Actually, its in the process of being done on the EVO, Its not final if it will work or start, but it was able to boot. Maybe at the End of the Summer, it may be available for the Evo, and it might get ported to the epic, but the chances are highly unlikely.
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One of my favorite features of the HTC phones was the ability to dual-boot android or WinMO. The Touch Pro was awesome with this. Unfortunately HTC doesn't want to make a decent phone with a keyboard anymore, and nobody else likes WinMO.
Launcher 7 is about as close as we'll come... I'm happy enough with it
Wp7 sucks.. enough said...
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Wp7 sucks.. enough said...
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+1 why would even conjure this idea when you own android and can do way more with it. Wait til android comes to desktops. OOOOOOHHHHH SH****T
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Netflix woould be one reason.
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Well we all know android is better. I just want to play with it out of the sake of curiousity... I owned a tilt back in the day and I HATED Winmo. But now that the os has been completely revised and its actually good and hasn't fallen flat on its face id like to try it out. Just out of curiousity lol
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It won't happen. Ever.
Incompatible hardware, closed source OS, and a dozen other reasons.
I currently read on engadget that HTC removes the hardware requirements for sense 3.0 so how can I get sense 3.0 on my EVO 4g running 2.3.3
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Well, that hasn't happened yet. The only way to get a newer version of sense is to flash a custom rom with it. Mikg 2.5 has a mix of 2.1 and 3.0. Its a good rom. Look in the dev section
We're comin from a pure power source.
Is that a gingerbread Rom
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MikG is gingerbread. I'm pretty sure all the 2.1 + 3.0 and 3.0 ROMs are gingerbread.
Just curious, what hardware requirements issues are you running into with a stock 2.3.3 EVO?
None exactly I was just going by what engadget was quoting. I really do want a rooted gingerbread Rom.
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None exactly I was just going by what engadget was quoting. I really do want a rooted gingerbread Rom.
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I highly recommend kinged-shooter-e3d. It is a clean sense 3 ROM. Very fast and very close to stock.
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Now here's on question I need answered I don't have Windows I have a mac. So how do o root without Windows.
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Now here's on question I need answered I don't have Windows I have a mac. So how do o root without Windows.
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Depends... what HBoot are you running? If 2.15 or 2.16, you are going to have to possibly do a virtual machine because Revolutionary only works on Windows and Linux.
I have no clue...wait 2.15 I remember from having to manually get my phone to gingerbread in the ffirst place
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If you acceppted the ota, then you updated your hboot
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Yes the ota made it 2.16.0002 to ne exact...I'm usually the more intelligence individual when it cones to technology I feel so dumb right now omg
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I tried it and it failed for me. It was so slow I had to go back to stock. I tried setcpu and v6 and all kinds of memory saving apps and nothing worked.. what did you do to get it running clean and smooth as you said? I love sense 3.0 but can't deal with an almost unusable phone.
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I highly recommend kinged-shooter-e3d. It is a clean sense 3 ROM. Very fast and very close to stock.
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I was running it for a week. Its not that fast. Its somewhat laggy and a memory hog! But I am assuming the lag is due to the memory usage. If that is fixed its totally worth the rom! They have done a good job integrating it. Now just need to fix the amount of space it takes to be running!
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Yes the ota made it 2.16.0002 to ne exact...I'm usually the more intelligence individual when it cones to technology I feel so dumb right now omg
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Take a look at http://revolutionary.io/ It works on Windows and linux. If your running mac, you may be able to run the linux version. Check the forums. Or find someone to run it for you on a windows machine. This will unlock your boot loader. You will then be able to root your phone with the zip off there site.
Synergy Kingdom is a very good Sense 3.0 ROM. I've been using it for about two weeks and haven't had any issues with it at all. The battery life is decent, but I just got a 3500mah battery that, so far, has helped quite a bit. Overclocked to 1152MHz using InteractiveX on Lithid's Freedom kernel. Very nice.
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Yeah I keep hearing of roms. So a Rom is th UI not the OS?
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Ok Imma try the Linux version
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Now here's on question I need answered I don't have Windows I have a mac. So how do o root without Windows.
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Find a friend. There are enough windows PC's around that it shouldn't be hard.
If not, I suggest booting a live linux CD (or live USB linux distro) and rooting from there. Booting off a Live Linux boot cd is easy enough. Insert the cd in your macbook and hold alt during the bootup process.
Also, boot camp might be a good option as well. Its generally useful to have a Windows installation around.
dude, flash Shooter and done! you have 3.0 sense!!
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Yeah I keep hearing of roms. So a Rom is th UI not the OS?
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Kinda a ROM is the OS with the UI packaged in it, each dev has tweaked the ROM for optimal performance and included extra features. Like synergy has sense 2.1 with 3.0 features. Still android 2.3.3 but with a different visual approach.
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This should really start being looked into by the devs. It would be AMAZING to have it on the Epic4G. Easier said than done. But we got some great devs and I think they can pull it off!!. Please devs. We need this!
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What do you mean by dual boot?
http://epiccm.blogspot.com/2012/01/boot-el30-stock-from-sdcard.html
The temporary EL30 boot from sdcard is a method of "dual boot" which has been useful for people to update PRL and calibrate sensors. This old version is problematic in that 3G and 4G data is broken. We know how to fix it, but it would take a few hours of work and there hasn't been demand for it.
Any type of dual boot would boot from the sdcard. The slow sdcard. Not a great user experience.
LOL...I got a quad boot on my phone. If I boot right into CWM I have nandroids of 4 ROMs to choose from to restore. Takes less than 10 minutes to restore one and then there is no issue of running from a slow sd card since we don't have enough internal memory to make real dual boot work.
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What do you mean by dual boot?
http://epiccm.blogspot.com/2012/01/boot-el30-stock-from-sdcard.html
The temporary EL30 boot from sdcard is a method of "dual boot" which has been useful for people to update PRL and calibrate sensors. This old version is problematic in that 3G and 4G data is broken. We know how to fix it, but it would take a few hours of work and there hasn't been demand for it.
Any type of dual boot would boot from the sdcard. The slow sdcard. Not a great user experience.
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NOT DUALBOOTING
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LOL...I got a quad boot on my phone. If I boot right into CWM I have nandroids of 4 ROMs to choose from to restore. Takes less than 10 minutes to restore one and then there is no issue of running from a slow sd card since we don't have enough internal memory to make real dual boot work.
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Haha no Dual booting is when you turn on your phone and have the chance to boot into either windows or android. like windows has.
Real dualbooting
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NOT DUALBOOTING
Haha no Dual booting is when you turn on your phone and have the chance to boot into either windows or android. like windows has.
Real dualbooting
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I know what real dual booting is....LOL. But not practical with our phones limited memory. With MTD and very limited apps it is probably possible but not practical leaving no room for any third padty apps.
Was just injecting a little humor..sheesh. ..tough crowd..l
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I know what real dual booting is....LOL. But not practical with our phones limited memory. With MTD and very limited apps it is probably possible but not practical leaving no room for any third padty apps.
Was just injecting a little humor..sheesh. ..tough crowd..l
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not trying to be tough lol just saying is all. but if an old windows mobile phone can why cant ours, the htc touch pro 2 did and has less everything than ours.
I got it xP. I think he is just a bit to serious ha
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I got it xP. I think he is just a bit to serious ha
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Ha...been awhile since I was accused of that...lol.
Is it possible that other phone's ROMs are much smaller than ours? It can be done but would be a tight squeeze on MTD but next to impossible on BML.
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Nook color has this. Although I never compared the specs. One boots off SD card, thither off internal memory. Speed off SD is same as internal. But I don't think the epic could handle this as a full time option. Just my opinion. My NC dual boots cm7 and cm9.
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Nook color has this. Although I never compared the specs. One boots off SD card, thither off internal memory. Speed off SD is same as internal. But I don't think the epic could handle this as a full time option. Just my opinion. My NC dual boots cm7 and cm9.
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I've benchmarked our internals and they come out to about 218 mb/s read our sdcards are average about 15 mb/s read
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Android = 200mb
Nand = 500mb
Data+cache = ~300ish mb
If you dual boot you will have no space for apps
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Android = 200mb
Nand = 500mb
Data+cache = ~300ish mb
If you dual boot you will have no space for apps
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Where'd all that space come from? I thought we only had like 300 megs in both RAM and ROM?
Also my friends tp2 and hd2 dual booted very easily into android (infact I think the hd2 is the most developed for android phone after the g1 and nexus 1, and its not even native lololol) and ran extremely smooth (on the hd2...on the tp2 it was like a hero with a keyboard lol. Random sluggishness.)
But nah if the hd2 can handle it I know damn well our phones can handle it. The problem is, everything we can dual boot is closed source so that's why windows phones can dual boot android but not vice-versa (I mean, you could do it yourself but just can't distribute it).
Meego seems like a great choice for a dual boot though since its open source and amazing...
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Where'd all that space come from? I thought we only had like 300 megs in both RAM and ROM?
Also my friends tp2 and hd2 dual booted very easily into android (infact I think the hd2 is the most developed for android phone after the g1 and nexus 1, and its not even native lololol) and ran extremely smooth (on the hd2...on the tp2 it was like a hero with a keyboard lol. Random sluggishness.)
But nah if the hd2 can handle it I know damn well our phones can handle it. The problem is, everything we can dual boot is closed source so that's why windows phones can dual boot android but not vice-versa (I mean, you could do it yourself but just can't distribute it).
Meego seems like a great choice for a dual boot though since its open source and amazing...
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This is still not possible. The HD2 had a lot more ROM.
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This is still not possible. The HD2 had a lot more ROM.
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Whats funny is the HTC HD2 still runs ICS or can dual boot etc... and its 3 years old
I have had my head spun by this topic myself -- I've been doing a lot of searches and reading just about every result but I can't seem to find good general info on the subject. I've seen some loosely compiled info on dual booting CM9/CM7, and I've seen some info on the EL30 from sdcard mentioned before, but I had hoped to boot CM9/CleanGB as CleanGB is what I'm running stable and comfortable with now. I'd just like to be able to have stable and comfortable as a fallback for playing with ICS. I know running off the sd is supposed to be quite slow, I don't really know what to expect as to HOW slow, but the way I figured slow was an acceptable compromise for a stable fallback.
My bottom line has been that a lot of kernels seem to support this, yet it feels like there's very little info on doing it, and that just confuses me a skosh. Is CM9/CleanGB even possible due to kernel requirements?
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I used to do this on my HTC TouchPro2. It was nice having android on it. The only problem was battery died too quick. But it was a pretty easy thing to do.
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I used to do this on my HTC TouchPro2. It was nice having android on it. The only problem was battery died too quick. But it was a pretty easy thing to do.
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Obviously the Touch Pro was designed to run windows mobile only and more business like Blackberrry
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Obviously the Touch Pro was designed to run windows mobile only and more business like Blackberrry
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Ya I know. Coming from a T-mobile MyTouch3G Slide I hated the TP2 lol.
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Obviously the Touch Pro was designed to run windows mobile only and more business like Blackberrry
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What does pointing out the obvious have to do with what he said
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No Froyo support? Dealbreaker
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This is gonna be one bad mother.............shut ya mouth........can't wait...
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This is definitely a new and great developement for roms,it will cut down on the questions and let us know whats going on during your install process.
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No Froyo support? Dealbreaker
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I know and the odd thing is that it DOES work with Eclair
Well you will have to get an older es explore but heck maybe I will even do a froyo just for fun. A little cm6 love..... lets just see. If anyone got eclair or cupcake we could go way retro
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I know y'all think I'm crazy but I have run eclair on my phone for several weeks already in 2013.
I'm not an expert but I am learning about a lot of Evo history. So I can confidently say, eclair yes, donut no. And who is talking about cupcake? If anyone can get that running on an Evo let me know. I'll give it a go..
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If I can get links to pre froyo I will make cool release for them
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I know y'all think I'm crazy but I have run eclair on my phone for several weeks already in 2013.
I'm not an expert but I am learning about a lot of Evo history. So I can confidently say, eclair yes, donut no. And who is talking about cupcake? If anyone can get that running on an Evo let me know. I'll give it a go..
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That's just awesome!
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Well you will have to get an older es explore but heck maybe I will even do a froyo just for fun. A little cm6 love..... lets just see. If anyone got eclair or cupcake we could go way retro
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Challenge accepted! Lol Cupcake on the Evo. Wonder how that would run being that the Evo specs are well above what's needed. I'm assuming, if someone is actually able to get it to boot cupcake, that it would run about as well as running Windows 95 on one of today's typical PC specs.
In regards to the toolbox and apps. Would the flash 11.x work on GB as well? I thought flash stopped at 10.x for GB and 11.x was for 4.x.x (ICS and up).
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Challenge accepted! Lol Cupcake on the Evo. Wonder how that would run being that the Evo specs are well above what's needed. I'm assuming, if someone is actually able to get it to boot cupcake, that it would run about as well as running Windows 95 on one of today's typical PC specs.
In regards to the toolbox and apps. Would the flash 11.x work on GB as well? I thought flash stopped at 10.x for GB and 11.x was for 4.x.x (ICS and up).
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Ha I still have a copy of win 95 running, I have a 1983 IBM laptop. Which was the first portabal laptop made that I use it on...
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Ha I still have a copy of win 95 I have a 1983 IBM laptop. Which was the first portabal laptop made...
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Damn Lol. 30 year old laptop. Its older than me!! Lol. I would just look at it and be like OK how do you use this darn thing. What is a command prompt?
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Damn Lol. 30 year old laptop. Its older than me!! Lol. I would just look at it and be like OK how do you use this darn thing. What is a command prompt?
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Its easy to use people still use it for programming..
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Its easy to use people still use it for programming..
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Lol dont worry, I updated my pc from windows xp to windows 7 just last year haha
Surprisingly it runs games very well even though it only has 2 GB ram and medium-low quality specs
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Challenge accepted! Lol Cupcake on the Evo. Wonder how that would run being that the Evo specs are well above what's needed. I'm assuming, if someone is actually able to get it to boot cupcake, that it would run about as well as running Windows 95 on one of today's typical PC specs.
In regards to the toolbox and apps. Would the flash 11.x work on GB as well? I thought flash stopped at 10.x for GB and 11.x was for 4.x.x (ICS and up).
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I think it does run on GB. When I flash a rom I flash this group of app along with it. It shows up in my apps when I boot up but I am not sure of the last time I used any flash on my phone. I usually use my pc for the Internet.
Op has some more info. I will be working on it more over the next few days. This will have apps, tweaks, and tricks. The apps are one part of the toolbox that will start showing up in our roms. They will also be included in a flashable zip for those who are not using our roms. The second part of the toolbox will be exclusive to our roms. It consists of modifications to the installer script that will put a copy of your recovery log into a folder on your sdcard. It will also do a md5sum of the rom you are installing and put that in the folder also.
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This is due for release soon, you can have Sense and GPe on the same device and change roms at the push of a button, and both roms share the same single pool of data, what a great idea, cant wait for this to be released
http://www.modaco.com/page/news/_/android/coming-soon-modacoswitch-for-the-htc-one-video-demo-r1184
This looks absolutely glorious. I can't wait to try it.
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This looks absolutely glorious. I can't wait to try it.
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Yeah i agree, best of both worlds, the fact the your data is available on both roms regardless of which rom you download it on is amazing, cant wait
I was concerned about the space it would take up but apparently he's aiming for less than 500mb which would be immense. I wonder if this can be developed and used for other devices to switch between sense and stock android.
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I wonder if it's going to require a different rom, or will it only use the modaco toolkit
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Yeah can't wait to try this out
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This is really neat I just wonder if you can load up your own roms or if they have to be ones included, and if MODs will work. I have a feeling regardless this will be my daily driver.
This looks amazing - I always dreamed of this with my One XL.
I haven't bothered to root/ROM my One yet, but this just might push me over the edge.
so would having 2 roms eat into the free ram on the rom your running, or just onto sd storage space? If its the latter, I wouldnt mind at all. running these roms now, whether be sense or GE, i usually only have 500mb of free ram at times, and sometimes less than that..
regardless, I am excited to at least try it out. I guess I would fall into that category of being indecisive on which rom I would like to run and would be nice to switch on the fly. hopefully it can be compatible with Viper
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so would having 2 roms eat into the free ram on the rom your running, or just onto sd storage space? If its the latter, I wouldnt mind at all. running these roms now, whether be sense or GE, i usually only have 500mb of free ram at times, and sometimes less than that..
regardless, I am excited to at least try it out. I guess I would fall into that category of being indecisive on which rom I would like to run and would be nice to switch on the fly. hopefully it can be compatible with Viper
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Currently it only takes up a bit of extra storage not ram because, in order to switch, it requires a reboot.
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so would having 2 roms eat into the free ram on the rom your running, or just onto sd storage space? If its the latter, I wouldnt mind at all. running these roms now, whether be sense or GE, i usually only have 500mb of free ram at times, and sometimes less than that..
regardless, I am excited to at least try it out. I guess I would fall into that category of being indecisive on which rom I would like to run and would be nice to switch on the fly. hopefully it can be compatible with Viper
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As the guy said above, its only 1 rom running at once so it wont eat into your ram, tho PaulOBrien did say he is going to look at trying to use Sense features over on the GPe rom which could be interesting
If it could get ir working on Google edition I would use this and probably never use sense.
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If it could get ir working on Google edition I would use this and probably never use sense.
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Would be nice, but i think HTC said they will drop a smaller update to fix that issue regardless
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Would be nice, but i think HTC said they will drop a smaller update to fix that issue regardless
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Hopefully they include an AOSP themed version of their current app so we don't have to search for others ones in the Play store.
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Both versions could be completely stock and I would still be all over this like a far kid on a cupcake
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Beta Registration!
So a beta registration forum has been posted!
http://www.modaco.com/page/news/_/android/modacoswitch-for-the-htc-one-beta-signup-r1191
already submitted mine :laugh:
Public Beta
Hey everyone looks like they have released a Public Beta
http://www.modaco.com/topic/363797-modacoswitch-beta-8-support-topic/
I also have the downloads for the MoDaCo.SWITCH
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Will switch be compatible with Viper? Or just a stock rom?
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Will switch be compatible with Viper? Or just a stock rom?
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I haven't had the opportunity to play with it yet, I will install this in a couple hours and let you know if someone hasn't already. If you can choose any combination of Sense and AOSP roms that would be amazing.