WiMax 4g out LightSquared LTE in... - Epic 4G General

I just saw this;
http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-announces-q2-earnings-new-lte-data-deal-lightsquared
So if they are going to start rolling out LTE in 2012, will there have to be new phones made for that network? I assume that our Epics will not be able to connect to that.

Neckberg said:
I just saw this;
http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-announces-q2-earnings-new-lte-data-deal-lightsquared
So if they are going to start rolling out LTE in 2012, will there have to be new phones made for that network? I assume that our Epics will not be able to connect to that.
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This was discussed before and our phones can support LTE via a software upgrade, supposedly.

what nobody is talking about is that sprint hemmoraged money and customers this quarter too.

algorhythm said:
This was discussed before and our phones can support LTE via a software upgrade, supposedly.
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Well that's good to hear.

Neckberg said:
Well that's good to hear.
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But our.phones are EOL in october
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algorhythm said:
This was discussed before and our phones can support LTE via a software upgrade, supposedly.
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I hate to beat a dead horse but, the only LTE that our phones could support is 2500mhz (clearwire) lte. Even this, however, is unlikely.
Lightsquared will be using 1400 to 1600mhz for their network.
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Hence the EOL
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Does anyone know what phones they have now that will work?

Within has like 3 chips in there. I don't know if anyone else noticed that in the schematic.

Neckberg said:
Does anyone know what phones they have now that will work?
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The only smartphone that will work with network vision 800mhz cdma is the evo 3D.
None of the phones Sprint currently is selling are fcc approved to work on 1400-1600mhz lte.
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Why didn't they just use their own 800 mhz for LTE instead of 1400 or 1600? I guess it's still better than 2500. Or are they going to use 800 and 1400 and 1600? I'm eligible for upgrade in March 2013. Do you think LTE will be out by then?

xboxfanj said:
Why didn't they just use their own 800 mhz for LTE instead of 1400 or 1600? I guess it's still better than 2500. Or are they going to use 800 and 1400 and 1600? I'm eligible for upgrade in March 2013. Do you think LTE will be out by then?
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according to the article, it will start by 2012 and should be full go by 2014. I am sure by then they will have phones that support it.

By then verizon will have lte over the entire US
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Lawsuit
First of all aren't we all paying the additional $10 a month just to have a phone capable of 4G service?
If this phone doesn't receive the new 4G service as advertised whenI bought the device, I expect a new free phone that does otherwise I will not hesitate to start a suit. This is bull****.

Ummm..not to burst any bubbles, but the 15 year deal with lightsquared isn't a plan to roll out consumer LTE on Sprints network (yet). Those details are to be announced in the fall.
This current deal is actually a money maker for sprint. Sprint will be taking over the deployment of an LTE network that lightsquared will be wholeselling (presumably to multiple carriers), and in return lightsquared will be paying sprint for that service. So as it stands right now, it's simply a source of income for Sprint (almost like being a contracter). However, Sprint will also be receiving purchasing "credits" to possibly buy some of that network. Just keep in mind that the network will still be owned by lightsquared. So don't jump to any conclusions just yet.
All the details were outlined in our employee meeting.
Also, our phones radio is rated as being capable of utililizing the 800mhz band, FWIW. And EOL only means end of production, not neccessarily support.
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spartasr said:
First of all aren't we all paying the additional $10 a month just to have a phone capable of 4G service?
If this phone doesn't receive the new 4G service as advertised whenI bought the device, I expect a new free phone that does otherwise I will not hesitate to start a suit. This is bull****.
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that extra $10 is on all smartphones, 4g or not. It's for the amount of data a smartphone uses over a standard phone. It's sprint's answer to throttling. It's got nothing to do with 4g
also, I wouldn't worry about any phone coming out in the next year working on LTE. They may, may not, but right now sprint is still very much wi-max. Also, Lightsquared already has multiple satellites in place, so once they do flip the switch, the 4g network will already have more coverage than wi-max

They arent just gonna shut wimax off. By the time it gets phased out im sure that all of us will have new devices.
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austin420 said:
what nobody is talking about is that sprint hemmoraged money and customers this quarter too.
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Will Sprint survive?

Wizard Knight said:
that extra $10 is on all smartphones, 4g or not. It's for the amount of data a smartphone uses over a standard phone. It's sprint's answer to throttling. It's got nothing to do with 4g
also, I wouldn't worry about any phone coming out in the next year working on LTE. They may, may not, but right now sprint is still very much wi-max. Also, Lightsquared already has multiple satellites in place, so once they do flip the switch, the 4g network will already have more coverage than wi-max
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Correct, but I believe Sprint is in position to deploy the lte network faster than we think.
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Jayavarman said:
Will Sprint survive?
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Yep. Hesse is shrewd.

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Sprint May Get The iPhone 4?? :0

This article suggests that its a definite possibility. How do u guys think this will affect Android and our beloved Evo's????
http://mobile.pcmag.com/device2/art.../www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2375576,00.asp
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jm5503 said:
This article suggests that its a definite possibility. How do u guys think this will affect Android and our beloved Evo's????
http://mobile.pcmag.com/device2/art.../www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2375576,00.asp
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Hoping the paper boy comes by to give me some good newsssss.....
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jm5503 said:
This article suggests that its a definite possibility. How do u guys think this will affect Android and our beloved Evo's????
http://mobile.pcmag.com/device2/art.../www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2375576,00.asp
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Dan Hesse would probably get on his knees for the iPhone. $69.99 for the iPhone 4 on the Everything Data plan would take Sprint to new heights.
I just don't want it crippling the network. I can see using my upgrade for it if nothing makes me want to leave the evo. Can you imagine the craigslist price on launch?
Wonder if they would put it out as the first 3G only phone with a premium data charge?
Ill get the iphone i used to have it when i was on att
uniquenameevo said:
I just don't want it crippling the network. I can see using my upgrade for it if nothing makes me want to leave the evo. Can you imagine the craigslist price on launch?
Wonder if they would put it out as the first 3G only phone with a premium data charge?
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You mean apple is a horrible company that won't add wimax support?!!!!
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uniquenameevo said:
I just don't want it crippling the network. I can see using my upgrade for it if nothing makes me want to leave the evo. Can you imagine the craigslist price on launch?
Wonder if they would put it out as the first 3G only phone with a premium data charge?
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You bring up a good point. I can't see how they could justify a $10 fee on a 3G phone. Lets pretend that the iPhone is a sure thing if they want it, I could see them either being greedy as hell and attaching the fee anyway, or not carrying it until there's a 4G version. If it's the latter, you probably wont see a iPhone on Sprint until they (if they every)change to LTE or Apple includes a WiMax version (which is unlikely).
We can hack the cdma iphone to work on our sprint network, correct?
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We can hack the cdma iphone to work on our sprint network, correct?
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Nope, otherwise you'd have seen Droids on Sprint.
Ironically you can have Sprint phones on Verizon. Unfair I know but "dems da brakes."
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We can hack the cdma iphone to work on our sprint network, correct?
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Hmmm. You might be able to swap the ESN of a Sprint smartphone and get away with it. Of course it'd be illegal to do that.
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You mean apple is a horrible company that won't add wimax support?!!!!
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Apple would announce the iPhone 5 with "AppleSPEED" and would be "revolutionary" meanwhile WiMax/4G will have been out for 3 years...
edgemaster191 said:
Apple would announce the iPhone 5 with "AppleSPEED" and would be "revolutionary" meanwhile WiMax/4G will have been out for 3 years...
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With Verizon and AT&T both scheduled to have LTE networks by Summer time, I wouldn't be surprised to see the iPhone 5 be LTE ready. That's 1 year after the EVO w/ WiMax.
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With Verizon and AT&T both scheduled to have LTE networks by Summer time, I wouldn't be surprised to see the iPhone 5 be LTE ready. That's 1 year after the EVO w/ WiMax.
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lol not doubting there will be an LTE iPhone, just saying they will make some huge announcement about how it's the greatest thing ever and brand it in someway that will make it look like they developed LTE/4G from the ground up, meanwhile they're the last one to the 4G party
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Nope, otherwise you'd have seen Droids on Sprint.
Ironically you can have Sprint phones on Verizon. Unfair I know but "dems da brakes."
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Forgive me, I come from the GSM side of cellular, but why wouldn't this be possible? I can take an AT&T iPhone (800/1900MHz) and run it on T-Mobile (1900MHz). It should be possible to flop any Verizon (800/1900MHz) to Sprint(1900/2100MHz). Again, I am fairly new to the CDMA side of mobile so it is quite possible I am missing something obvious.
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Forgive me, I come from the GSM side of cellular, but why wouldn't this be possible? I can take an AT&T iPhone (800/1900MHz) and run it on T-Mobile (1900MHz). It should be possible to flop any Verizon (800/1900MHz) to Sprint(1900/2100MHz). Again, I am fairly new to the CDMA side of mobile so it is quite possible I am missing something obvious.
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CDMA doesn't have SIM cards (well at least not here). You have to activate your phone via the carrier and ESN number of the phone. Sprint will only activate ESNs that are in their system (just Sprint phones).
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Forgive me, I come from the GSM side of cellular, but why wouldn't this be possible? I can take an AT&T iPhone (800/1900MHz) and run it on T-Mobile (1900MHz). It should be possible to flop any Verizon (800/1900MHz) to Sprint(1900/2100MHz). Again, I am fairly new to the CDMA side of mobile so it is quite possible I am missing something obvious.
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It's easy with gsm phones cuz of sim cards (except the iPhone). We have phone specific esn numbers attached to Sprint's network.
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With Verizon and AT&T both scheduled to have LTE networks by Summer time, I wouldn't be surprised to see the iPhone 5 be LTE ready. That's 1 year after the EVO w/ WiMax.
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The first CDMA version will be 3G only. Four months later, millions of Verizon customers will upgrade at full price to get LTE.
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The first CDMA version will be 3G only. Four months later, millions of Verizon customers will upgrade at full price to get LTE.
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That's the iPhone product cycle in general. There were probably a ton of people who bought AT&T iPhone 4's today despite the looming unveiling of the iPhone 5.
Funny how my thread got epically trashed by noobs and trolls, yet this thread that is discussing the same thing seems clean. inb4 trolls log on and start acting like retards.
As far as ESN cloning goes, from what I know, its only illegal if you use it avoid your payments and do deceptive things with it, but if you are actually paying for your service, then i don't think you can get in trouble for it.
The only reason ESN was even made illegal was to stop people siphoning money from the companies and such, but since you own both the device and the service plan, i dont think they can do anything to you. And im pretty sure if the cdma iphone were to be dropped, it would be unlocked within matter of hours, and then modified for sprint and all the other cdma services within a matter of days.
What i want to know, is if someone can actually hardmod the phone to enable sprint wimax, or verizon lte on it? (most likely not since iOS is closed source, but still possible)
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As far as ESN cloning goes, from what I know, its only illegal if you use it avoid your payments and do deceptive things with it, but if you are actually paying for your service, then i don't think you can get in trouble for it.
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Changing the ESN is a very gray area. BUT changing the operating frequency of a transmitter is a whole other ball of wax(which you would going between Sprint, and Verizon or AT&T, and T-Mobile. Once you change the operating frequency that the transmitter was certified for it loses it's FCC Type Acceptance. It is no longer in the eyes of the FCC a legal phone. Now doing it to equipment on bands outside the cellphone allocations the FCC really doesn't monitor, or enforce unless someone complains. Fart around on aircraft, cellphone, and govt/military you will be paid a very personal visit by an FCC agent (and in this day and age the local swat team, and reps from various three lettered agencies).
FYI the only FCC licensed radio operator that can modify transmitters (or build for their personal use) for operation (within spec) on their allocated frequencies are Radio Amateurs. Once that radio has been modded it can no longer be used outside the Radio Amateur Bands.

Sprint switcing from Wimax

Well as many of you read on Engadget about Sprint switching from WiMax to LTE. Well naturally being curious, while I was stopping by my parents house on the way home I asked my dad who worked in telecom for most of my life doing contract work for Sprint. He now has since moved out telecom to some other department, but he still keeps up with his telecom friends who do contracting work for Sprint. Anyways back to the point I asked if these rumors were true. He said Yes they are switching from WiMax, but not to what and that Samsung is providing the equipment. If i find out anymore information I will let you know.
i dont really know anything about the 4g radio in my evo, but would it still work on LTE?
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i dont really know anything about the 4g radio in my evo, but would it still work on LTE?
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Everything would still work on the phone but the 4G LTE.
There aren't phasing out WiMax yet from what it sounds like, but since the Evo 4G wasn't designed with LTE in mind then no the LTE won't work on the Evo.
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There aren't phasing out WiMax yet from what it sounds like, but since the Evo 4G wasn't designed with LTE in mind then no the LTE won't work on the Evo.
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but does this mean that they are going to stop expanding the 4g network, and focus only on getting LTE up in more places? this is kind of a kick in the balls for people who just bought 4g capable devices with sprint.
They'll probably continue to expand and run Wimax on 2.5 Ghz and run LTE in parallel on 850 Mhz.
The way I understand, you would be able to swap out cards in the towers to swap out from wimax to lte... At least on new towers. Is that true?
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The way I understand, you would be able to swap out cards in the towers to swap out from wimax to lte... At least on new towers. Is that true?
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Yes, but you can't swap out the hardware in your phone from wimax to LTE.
So sprint gonna issue new lte Evos to us? Lol I mean if this happens then I guess we all have grounds for leaving sprint without etf for them not holding up to their end of the contract....wimax. not saying I'd leave but I enjoy 4g.....on my Evo!
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So sprint gonna issue new lte Evos to us? Lol I mean if this happens then I guess we all have grounds for leaving sprint without etf for them not holding up to their end of the contract....wimax. not saying I'd leave but I enjoy 4g.....on my Evo!
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By the time this is completed, the Evo will be obsolete.
mbaseball3 said:
So sprint gonna issue new lte Evos to us? Lol I mean if this happens then I guess we all have grounds for leaving sprint without etf for them not holding up to their end of the contract....wimax. not saying I'd leave but I enjoy 4g.....on my Evo!
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No lol.. i am sure if you have 4g service you would still get it.
No offense but you have like 5 posts Including 2 in this thread, and you've been a member here just as long as I have pretty much...I'll believe it when I see it, and as ruge said, the evo will be the compare to as the nextel chirp phones back in the day and the razor, obsolete, trust me, no evo will have lte
the Evo 2A will have lte, I promise
Edit: I am changing this because I read this post wrong. You are right they are about to use Samsung products on the new towers but its not to change wimax, it is to make the towers more efficient and smaller. From what I was told they will use new technology which will allow them to add all services on one tower and be able to free up frequency to build out. It would not be imho to drop wimax because they will be the only ones to utilize it giving them an advantage in developing. Back on topic he is correct they are making upgrades and using new hardware within the towers but I think its imho to have voice/data simultaneous on a cdma network (a first) and they will do it with wimax 2 starting 2012...(that is just my opinion)
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Credit-Suisse-SprintLightsquared-Deal-to-be-Announced-Soon-113587
They seem pretty adamant on sprint moving to lte
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gamer4208 said:
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Credit-Suisse-SprintLightsquared-Deal-to-be-Announced-Soon-113587
They seem pretty adamant on sprint moving to lte
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yes it will be BOTH, in years from now, which will be = 2 the razr in todays age
craigbailey1986 said:
This is complete bs as I know 2 top engineers working for sprint and neither have heard such news.... now I usually don't feed into this he say/she say because it won't change a thing but please don't spread speculations amongst the forum without having concrete facts. Sprint also stated recently they were keeping there 800 spectrum and making upgrades to it for business who utilize the "ptt" phones and not using it for lte. All it takes is a little reading....
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I believe I know the article you are referring to as it was in another thread on here and discussed the new PTT service they will use once IDEN is turned off and it will include more speeds and the likes for data.
The way I took the article was that the new PTT phones will take advantage of the new network upgrade they are performing i think its called Sprints Network vision. The multimode base-stations will be the key to it all.
In the end the change allows them to use all the networks more interchangably from what I understand.
I would not expect them to keep the 800MHz band for CDMA PTT. they stated that CDMA PTT phones will be out late this year and if thats the case and they were planning on having them run on the IDEN 800MHz band wouldn't IDEN need to be shut off first? I take it as the CDMA PTT phones will run on the regular network and use data form the 800MHz once they deploy LTE on that. they can't put WiMax on the 800MHz b/c WiMax isn't provisioned in that spectrum at this point.
As I stated in my edited reply it would not make sense to use technology the others are using because it would not make good marketing. Also wimax 2 will be out second quarter or half this year, can't recall, and around the exact same time frame for those new phones. Also the new hardware being supplied to sprint and their new plan is at the core of what wimax 2 is. Which is stated to give better download speed and efficiency thru multi data channels. The company supplying the hardware, Samsung, also The first company to test wimax 2 and said it got 130mbs download, but that's with no one else testing it. But you get the picture.... I hope
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My main issue with sprint is signal penetration. Once I get in a building or etc my signal just goes to ****. My coworkers have t-mobile and Verizon and they get full bars sitting next to me laughing at my 1 bar. It has been this way for years.
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My main issue with sprint is signal penetration. Once I get in a building or etc my signal just goes to ****. My coworkers have t-mobile and Verizon and they get full bars sitting next to me laughing at my 1 bar. It has been this way for years.
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Sorry to hear that... I also don't get good signal in certain places but hey each carrier has bad spots, when I am in the studio some artist who have iPhone or att don't have any service while myself and engineer have full bars, though he has Verizon
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[Q] IPhone to sprint?

I was at a sprint store this weekend and one of the reps. there told that sprint might get the iPhone at thebend of the year. Can anyone confirm this?
There is no official confirmation but it is a rumor that Apple is going to release an iPhone 4S at the end of August that will also be on Sprint and T-Mobile. We will see.
I personally don't think Sprint's network could handle it.
That's the rumor. It's not confirmed by any stretch of the imagination, but from Apple's standpoint, it makes a lot of sense. Apple is getting beat in the US by Android, and wants some of those Android sales. Plus, it looks like the next iPhone will have both radios (gsm/cdma), so it can release one phone for all networks. Now, whether you could unlock the phone to go from Sprint to AT&T, or Verizon will remain to be seen...assuming the rumors of a Sprint and T-Mobile iPhone are true...
God, I hope not. Sprint's 3G data is slow enough as it is, I can only imagine how an iPhone would perform on it. So unless they're planning on ramping up their 4G game or signing some major roaming agreements nationwide, might as well stick w/ an open-source Android!
Besides an android is so much more better than an iPhone. Why would you want that garbage?
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Pffft. A Sprint rep also told me we'd have 4G in Des Moines this year
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Not to change the thread, but I read on an official source that sprint is taking their 4G from wimax to LTE. Which is better and faster 4G data.
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A sprint rep told me the other day that obama was doing an awesome job.......
Ha
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Not to change the thread, but I read on an official source that sprint is taking their 4G from wimax to LTE. Which is better and faster 4G data.
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I think this is based on their recent announcement of a partnership with Lightsquared, but I don't think it means WiMax goes away completely, it just gives them greater 4G coverage. They're keeping their options open, that is for sure.
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I guess only time will tell.
ummmm why are we talking about crappy iphones in the shift section???????????
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ummmm why are we talking about crappy iphones in the shift section???????????
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3g isn't slow on sprint, I get a full meg of speed on 3g, and 8megs on 4g here in Minneapolis.
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3g isn't slow on sprint, I get a full meg of speed on 3g, and 8megs on 4g here in Minneapolis.
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well good for flipping you lol the rest of us are lucky to get 100kbp grrrr sprint needs to step up
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3g isn't slow on sprint, I get a full meg of speed on 3g, and 8megs on 4g here in Minneapolis.
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I get an average of 500k down and 350k up, 2 hours south of Minneapolis.
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well good for flipping you lol the rest of us are lucky to get 100kbp grrrr sprint needs to step up
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In Des Moines, IA I average about 700kbps on 3G. No 4G tho.
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Lightsquared LTE

http://www.talkandroid.com/49332-sp...idForums+(Android+News,+Rumours,+and+Updates)
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I bet part of this was to stay competitive in the future iPhone market. I know there's only slight hints for an iPhone on Sprint, but I can feel it coming.The iPhone 5 will probably "only" be HSPA+ ready, but next year I'm sure it will be LTE ready. I very much doubt that Apple would build a WiMax version of the iPhone for only Sprint, and with Sprint's future looking bleak, they need every competitive advantage they can get.
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I bet part of this was to stay competitive in the future iPhone market. I know there's only slight hints for an iPhone on Sprint, but I can feel it coming.The iPhone 5 will probably "only" be HSPA+ ready, but next year I'm sure it will be LTE ready. I very much doubt that Apple would build a WiMax version of the iPhone for only Sprint, and with Sprint's future looking bleak, they need every competitive advantage they can get.
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That could definitely be a reason. Steve Jobs wouldn't approve a WiMax iPhone.
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Well they need to something and i doubt its because of the iphone... Sure sprint has wimax but it Really can't compete with verizon LTE and the sprint 3g network is really slow compared to every other carrier... I am really curious to hear what they have planned... I want to be a sprint customer but i won't jump ship untill i can get consistently fast speeds like i have on tmobile
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Well they need to something and i doubt its because of the iphone... Sure sprint has wimax but it Really can't compete with verizon LTE and the sprint 3g network is really slow compared to every other carrier... I am really curious to hear what they have planned... I want to be a sprint customer but i won't jump ship untill i can get consistently fast speeds like i have on tmobile
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Their 3G was top notch for a while and LTE and WiMax would both be ****ty on the 2500 spectrum WiMax is on right now. LTE from light squares is going on 1600
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But think about this. They are not going to be sinking any more money into Wimax now to expand it. And they are starting from scratch for LTE. By the time they even have enough LTE as they do Wimax (which still is not a lot) everyone else is going to be done building their LTE network. So basically Sprint is not going to have a good 4G network now for at least 4-5 years. So everyone get used to your slow data speeds. We are gonna have em for a while. Yay, way to go Sprint.
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But think about this. They are not going to be sinking any more money into Wimax now to expand it. And they are starting from scratch for LTE. By the time they even have enough LTE as they do Wimax (which still is not a lot) everyone else is going to be done building their LTE network. So basically Sprint is not going to have a good 4G network now for at least 4-5 years. So everyone get used to your slow data speeds. We are gonna have em for a while. Yay, way to go Sprint.
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Your basing all this on the mistaken notion that Sprint is going to start building an LTE network from scratch starting right now.
Lightsquared has been working on this for a while and should launch next year.
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But think about this. They are not going to be sinking any more money into Wimax now to expand it. And they are starting from scratch for LTE. By the time they even have enough LTE as they do Wimax (which still is not a lot) everyone else is going to be done building their LTE network. So basically Sprint is not going to have a good 4G network now for at least 4-5 years. So everyone get used to your slow data speeds. We are gonna have em for a while. Yay, way to go Sprint.
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They're not stopping their wimax network if that's what you think
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they have a contarct to use clears wimax until 2012, they said ages ago, to switch from wimax to lte takes 1 module added onto the tower, so a year tops to convert wimax locations to lte locations
Award Tour said:
I bet part of this was to stay competitive in the future iPhone market. I know there's only slight hints for an iPhone on Sprint, but I can feel it coming.The iPhone 5 will probably "only" be HSPA+ ready, but next year I'm sure it will be LTE ready. I very much doubt that Apple would build a WiMax version of the iPhone for only Sprint, and with Sprint's future looking bleak, they need every competitive advantage they can get.
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Apple Exec's and Sprint Exec's do not like each other at all. Apple thinks Sprint is a 2nd rate wireless company going down the tubes. Sprint would not be willing to pay their royalty clauses that Apple wants. You like Iphone 4 or 5 you need to go to Verizon or At&T. Samsung & HTC phones have gotten so much better. It is real competition now to Apple. Until the relationship is repaired you will never see an Iphone on Sprint.
shabbypenguin said:
they have a contarct to use clears wimax until 2012, they said ages ago, to switch from wimax to lte takes 1 module added onto the tower, so a year tops to convert wimax locations to lte locations
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sounds good but now i wonder if people are going to hold off on current phones and future phones waiting for LTE Models i doubt it but it could hurt a bit
Award Tour said:
I bet part of this was to stay competitive in the future iPhone market. I know there's only slight hints for an iPhone on Sprint, but I can feel it coming.The iPhone 5 will probably "only" be HSPA+ ready, but next year I'm sure it will be LTE ready. I very much doubt that Apple would build a WiMax version of the iPhone for only Sprint, and with Sprint's future looking bleak, they need every competitive advantage they can get.
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Wish I could have profits in the billions and a loss of less than a billion and have my outlook bleak
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cdw9800 said:
sounds good but now i wonder if people are going to hold off on current phones and future phones waiting for LTE Models i doubt it but it could hurt a bit
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I plan on switching to an LTE phone as soon as its available on Sprint. I live and work in the dallas area and their wimax coverage sucks here.
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I was told Sprint is merging with Verizon on LTE

Sprint will reveal in October the news that they will be sharing the LTE signal and towers with Verizon. According to something I read and a employee dude in the Sprint store told me. Anyone has any info on this?
engelsione said:
Sprint will reveal in October the news that they will be sharing the LTE signal and towers with Verizon. According to something I read and a employee dude in the Sprint store told me. Anyone has any info on this?
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Verizon owns their network.
They might have a deal (much like the cdma deal) where they will be able to roam across networks...but its highly unlikely that Verizon would truly "share" their network with Sprint in the way you're thinking. (As in how Clear has with wimax)
Announcement link here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1241021
Im wondering if wimax radios will become useful for nothing.
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I See this happening for only one reason.
It would be way cheaper.
The companies could use a data swapping model.
The two companies would swap equal amounts of data for no charge. and charge who ever uses more.
This method would allow the companies to expand their network and advertise they have more coverage.
\It will not be free but it will need to have some sort of method for finding out who uses what data who is going to be charged. This would allow cheaper costs and to have a huge footprint rather fast. It will also give time for the companies to save $$$ and build out their networks and switch solely to their LTE towers.
Again these companies will never do this. BUT. LTE hopping while using some sort of data swapping...Ehh
May or may not happen.
ok...but how about all the wimax phones sprint has and none lte....
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Im wondering if wimax radios will become useful for nothing.
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kostov22 said:
ok...but how about all the wimax phones sprint has and none lte....
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Folks, keep in mind that networks take a long time to be built.
But yes, Wimax is looking to become the next 'BetaMax'.
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Im wondering if wimax radios will become useful for nothing.
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Its already useless where I live. I'm not to worried about LTE and switching phones since as mentioned it takes a while. Still waiting to get my hands on that new Galaxy model.
mattykinsx said:
Folks, keep in mind that networks take a long time to be built.
But yes, Wimax is looking to become the next 'BetaMax'.
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Lol I remember watching our betamax when I was young.
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Betamax has better audio quality than VHS.
indagroove said:
Betamax has better audio quality than VHS.
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From what I understand the video quality was better too.
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Not sure what that has to do with this topic?
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From what I understand the video quality was better too.
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Not sure what that has to do with this topic?
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Just like Wimax better then LTE but being dropped like beta is probably the reference he's makin
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I was told..... radioactive waste had high nutritional value.
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I was told..... radioactive waste had high nutritional value.
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Awesome
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Indirect said:
Im wondering if wimax radios will become useful for nothing.
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Evo, Evo Shift, Epic 4g, Evo 3d, Random Samsung phone, and the Epic Touch coming are all WiMax, so I doubt it'll become useless.
Its not like they're just gonna immediately shut down the Wimax network anyway.
If they do, by the time they do, no one will have a Wimax capable phone.
"Sprint on Thursday announced that it has inked a deal with LightSquared will see 4G LTE services built out on its massive nationwide network. LightSquared will pay Sprint $9 billion over 15 years for the right to build out its LTE network using Sprint infrastructure, and Sprint will also get a total of $4.5 billion in credits toward LTE and satellite service. Equally important to the nation’s No. 3 carrier, the deal will allow it to save about $13 billion in network build-out costs and cover 260 million Americans with its 4G LTE service by 2015."
http://www.bgr.com/2011/07/28/sprint-announces-deal-to-adopt-4g-lte/
mxl180 said:
"Sprint on Thursday announced that it has inked a deal with LightSquared will see 4G LTE services built out on its massive nationwide network. LightSquared will pay Sprint $9 billion over 15 years for the right to build out its LTE network using Sprint infrastructure, and Sprint will also get a total of $4.5 billion in credits toward LTE and satellite service. Equally important to the nation’s No. 3 carrier, the deal will allow it to save about $13 billion in network build-out costs and cover 260 million Americans with its 4G LTE service by 2015."
http://www.bgr.com/2011/07/28/sprint-announces-deal-to-adopt-4g-lte/
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Yeah, that's old news.
Were talking about this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1241021
mattykinsx said:
Yeah, that's old news.
Were talking about this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1241021
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Sprint will be using LTE but named differently to not "confuse" the consumer Jan 1st 2012
I call BULLSHxT!
Wimax isn't going away... It was designed as a back haul system... Wimax can carry alot more data than LTE because of the spectrum it uses but can't penetrate building worth a crap. Wimax makes an excellent tower to tower communications system that LTE could only dream of so the goal should be use both systems for there designed purpose.
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i talked to sprint the other day and they are already doing it, however they are actually in the proccess of building there own 4g network with the lte technology to be completed by 2018.

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