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next official rom update for the HD2 Europe version?

Any news about that?

the next one should be with windows mobile 6.5.x
for more support of the capacitive screen

anxifer said:
the next one should be with windows mobile 6.5.x
for more support of the capacitive screen
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Because can it be that HTC have given up on updating the HD2 already?

Euroman28 said:
Because can it be that HTC have given up on updating the HD2 already?
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I don't think, that HTC has given up on the HD2, yet.
This tweet might be of interest.
to everyone asking about HD2 & Windows Phone 7 Series; nothing announced yet but there may be info coming next month
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http://twitter.com/windowsphone/status/9181323569
...either there will be a statement about HD2 being "transformed" into a WP7S-device with an update, or HTC might tell us that they have prepared WM 6.5.x for the HD2
Nobody knows yet....but I don't think HTC has "left us"

The last update has been 2-3 weeks ago... what do you expect seriously? I also don't think that the next update will contain WM6.5.x-crap. If the HD2 is meant to get an WM7-update then I'm almost sure that HD2 won't get this version. But all we can do is speculating...

de Wolfe said:
The last update has been 2-3 weeks ago... what do you expect seriously? I also don't think that the next update will contain WM6.5.x-crap. If the HD2 is meant to get an WM7-update then I'm almost sure that HD2 won't get this version. But all we can do is speculating...
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What I seriously think is that there is a chance, that we will get a WM 6.5.3 update.
Yes, it's been 3 weeks since the last ROM, and so? The ROM before that was released in the beginning of December, so about 7 weeks.
...and when is MIX'10? In about a month....so why does this sound so wrong? Especially if the US models get the 6.5.3 ROM, then it wouldn't be so hard to make a version for the unbranded HD2
But yes, we don't know what might og might not happen

if they want to update hd2 to 6.5.3 they would have updated it in the 1.66 roms i think the next update will not be 6.5.3

they really should make an update because there are still so many unsolved issues that really annoy us users (sms lag, ...). Maybe they are already working on it and it will be released when there is a stable version of the newest windows build.

What about win6.5.3 combine with the new version of sense ?

Arent we due WM6.6 soon?

Starfury said:
Arent we due WM6.6 soon?
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We will properly get a 2.00 Rom with Windows Mobile 6.5.3 and some updates included. Maybe a new Youtube Client? Which would allow you to access your youtube account like you can Iphone?
But in my opinion getting an official WM7 HD2 upgrade is a likely as me being invited home by some random woman on this or any friday(Which is very unlikely!)
/Fred

Euroman28 said:
We will properly get a 2.00 Rom with Windows Mobile 6.5.3 and some updates included. Maybe a new Youtube Client? Which would allow you to access your youtube account like you can Iphone?
But in my opinion getting an official WM7 HD2 upgrade is a likely as me being invited home by some random woman on this or any friday(Which is very unlikely!)
/Fred
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If we believe HTC on twitter:
'for Diamond 2 firmware is not planned. Of the existing communicators on the market, only the HD2 firmware to get WM7'
think you better keep your friday nights free towards the end of the year when the OS is eventually released!!!

i think that 6.5.3 update can be a concrete possibility....i don't want to believe that Htc could leave us without this update....

Mango update

After today's press conference it looks like there are many cool new features coming with the Mango update. I guess we'll have to wait some time to see it fully functional at our HD2
I can't wait!

I really can't wait either! God, I love my WP7 cell now! Can't stand using Android with all the bugs! MANGOOOO!

Moved your non developmental thread over to the general section.
Peace,
Josh

great stuff!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/24/microsoft-announces-windows-phone-mango-update-early-and-in/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/24/windows-phone-mango-and-bing-vision-hands-on/

antaed said:
great stuff!
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Thanks for the link! I was looking for it.
Any estimation of when this Mango will be avail in our beloved HD2?

n_m619 said:
Thanks for the link! I was looking for it.
Any estimation of when this Mango will be avail in our beloved HD2?
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We must wait for DFT Sir

Vegas?
We should have a bet going. Over or under.
Over = Mango on our HD2 on or sometime after Windows official release.
Under = Mango on our HD2 before Windows official release.
What do you guys think? Can we get a line at one of the casinos lulz!?!?!
My bet: Under, as I hope so because I don't know if I can wait more than three more months!

pharmeceutikle said:
We should have a bet going. Over or under.
Over = Mango on our HD2 on or sometime after Windows official release.
Under = Mango on our HD2 before Windows official release.
What do you guys think? Can we get a line at one of the casinos lulz!?!?!
My bet: Under, as I hope so because I don't know if I can wait more than three more months!
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i would bet for "under" too, but if i had to pick a month it would probably be september.
i find it's very improbable for us to have it waaaay before the official release.
... just a gut feeling
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then again, i might be wrong
http://www.everythingwm.com/microso...developers-before-official-launch/2011/05/25/

That's great! If MS releases Mango to devs as soon as 4 weeks time, then hopefully someone or DFT can port it to our HD2 shortly after. But the thing is, i've heard rumors that DFT has Mango already on our phone. I haven't heard anything that is definite though.

So from what I gather, when MS releases Mango it will not include HD2 but we have to wait until someone port a rom for HD2?
I own a HD7 right now and unhappy with the phone because of no visible SD slot (unless I risk voiding warranty and mod it), no custom ringtone , no flash support, no bluetooth sync with my PC for file transfer... all of which Ballmer promises will be fixed in Mango. Oh and also no Android rom for HD7.
All of those reason make me wanna downgrade to a HD2 that has a SD slot and Android rom but my concern is it will take too long for HD2 to get Mango port.
Also, how stable is the Android rom for HD2? Particularly with Market apps. I once owned a Chinese clone of Diamond II dual boot with WM6.5 and Android 2.2, but Android on that phone can't use most Market apps.
What should I do? Keep my HD7 and have faith in M$ and Balmer to fix the issues or downgrade to HD2 now?

Project999 said:
So from what I gather, when MS releases Mango it will not include HD2 but we have to wait until someone port a rom for HD2?
I own a HD7 right now and unhappy with the phone because of no visible SD slot (unless I risk voiding warranty and mod it), no custom ringtone , no flash support, no bluetooth sync with my PC for file transfer... all of which Ballmer promises will be fixed in Mango. Oh and also no Android rom for HD7.
All of those reason make me wanna downgrade to a HD2 that has a SD slot and Android rom but my concern is it will take too long for HD2 to get Mango port.
Also, how stable is the Android rom for HD2? Particularly with Market apps. I once owned a Chinese clone of Diamond II dual boot with WM6.5 and Android 2.2, but Android on that phone can't use most Market apps.
What should I do? Keep my HD7 and have faith in M$ and Balmer to fix the issues or downgrade to HD2 now?
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I think u should stick with the HD7! WP7 Mango update will be sweeeeet! I've personally tried everything from WM6.5, Android and WP7 on the HD2, and I think Android is the worst OS of them. It's slow and ugly looking.. I will stick with WP7 for now couse it has all the main features I need and it looks cool and it's FAST!

Project999 said:
So from what I gather, when MS releases Mango it will not include HD2 but we have to wait until someone port a rom for HD2?
I own a HD7 right now and unhappy with the phone because of no visible SD slot (unless I risk voiding warranty and mod it), no custom ringtone , no flash support, no bluetooth sync with my PC for file transfer... all of which Ballmer promises will be fixed in Mango. Oh and also no Android rom for HD7.
All of those reason make me wanna downgrade to a HD2 that has a SD slot and Android rom but my concern is it will take too long for HD2 to get Mango port.
Also, how stable is the Android rom for HD2? Particularly with Market apps. I once owned a Chinese clone of Diamond II dual boot with WM6.5 and Android 2.2, but Android on that phone can't use most Market apps.
What should I do? Keep my HD7 and have faith in M$ and Balmer to fix the issues or downgrade to HD2 now?
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I've never owned an HD7, but I played around with it a few times. To be frank, there wasn't much to play with! WP7 fun is potential and not actual. I'd take actual over potential any day of the week. So, we'll need something in the meantime while WP7 can go from potential fun to actual fun. The solution for that would be Android. It's a no risk if on SD. Don't like a particular rom just erase it and get another one. Best yet, lets get 2-3 builds at the same time! What's great about that is your WP7 is waiting patiently for you with a simple reboot. Can your HD7 do that? No? Get an HD2 my friend! You may even venture onto Linux if you care to.

Very well put. Just a few questions:
1. HD2 WP7 rom is not offical MS release right? So when MS release Mango, HD2 will have to wait until someone cooks the rom?
2. Is there a likelihood or some project in progress to create English Android rom for HD7? Is it even possible to do this without a SD slot? I saw some youtube video of Chinese version of Android rom for HD7 but it's hard to tell whether it's a HD7 clone phone or a real one.
If it wasn't for Ballmer's promise of 500 new features and all the hype floating around, I'd have got rid of this HD7 long ago.

Project999 said:
Very well put. Just a few questions:
1. HD2 WP7 rom is not offical MS release right? So when MS release Mango, HD2 will have to wait until someone cooks the rom?
2. Is there a likelihood or some project in progress to create English Android rom for HD7? Is it even possible to do this without a SD slot? I saw some youtube video of Chinese version of Android rom for HD7 but it's hard to tell whether it's a HD7 clone phone or a real one.
If it wasn't for Ballmer's promise of 500 new features and all the hype floating around, I'd have got rid of this HD7 long ago.
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1. Correct, as WP7 for HD2 is not official, there might be some waiting time. NoDo was pretty fast, though.
2. Maybe there is a project, but afaik, nothing available yet.

Check it out!!!
Check this link out!! Finally the whole scoop on MANGO!!! Thought I should share with everyone else whose's waiting for this update. CAN"T WAIT FOR MANGO!!!!!
http://mobilitydigest.com/the-embargo-is-lifted-mango-is-revealed-and-its-glorious/

Omnia 7 will get Mango update

The Samsung Omnia 7, the first Windows Phone of Samsung mobile will get a update to Mango.
This version will bring some new things to your device!
SamFirmware asked Maarten Sonneveld about the Omnia 7.
SamFirmware: @WindowsPhoneNL Hi will the Omnia 7 get Mango update?
WindowsPhoneNL: @SamFirmware Yes!
The update will come allround the autumn for the Omnia 7.
http://twitter.com/#!/WindowsPhoneNL
Today we also show a new CODE: GT-I8710.
This could be a new Windows Phone.
Hopefully Samsung will bring more Windows Phone devices.
Samsung is with only 1 phone one of the biggest players on the WP market thanks to the great hardware and absolute nice design.
Source : http://www.samfirmware.com/apps/blog/show/7293396-omnia-7-will-get-mango-update-

It was said from day 1 that all devices will get all updates.... eventualy...

Was that ever the question?

Great news.. Hopefully every Phone with wp7 OS will get subsequent updates newer Fruit Updates.

yes it will get Mango update
mine is now running mango beta 2.
try it out guys

mikeluan said:
mine is now running mango beta 2.
try it out guys
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Where did you get it from? Some torrent site?

mine also has been updated to Mango Beta2. you can check Windows Phone 7 General forum for detail

Dell venue pro with 7661.WP_5_Trail

I just installed the beta 2 for the developers what is published today on my dell venue pro and I wanted to share my first impressions with the community. I will update this thread with my findings (positive or negative).
First some history:
I bought the phone in the US beginning of January. I live in Europe, Spain and I have my phone developer unlocked. So now you know where my phone came its maybe comparable for some of you here in the forums.
After update my phone have the following software specs:
DVP 8Gb model upgraded to 16gb
OS: 7661.WP7_6_Trial (mojobld).20110607-1657
Firmware: 2250.1500.7004.105
Hardware rev. 112.576.2.0
Radio software: 2.2.5.15
Radio hardware: 8250
Bootloader: 7.27.1.0
After update:
I noticed that the phone contained all my data, installed programs telephone numbers ect. what I didn't expect after doing any flash.
Positive points:
- Reaction speed is much better then NODO
- Stable OS (BETA 2 is mostly stable)
- The new functionality of course.
Negative point
- I noticed that background programs like eg. 4th and mayor are closing down out of them self. I'm not sure if multi-tasking is fully implemented.
- Some times I have a white glim's if I start an app in the overlay
Still need to try
- I have the feeling the software for the phone is indeed better but need some more testing.
- Somehow get a benchmark program to see if the performance is really better.
- I think the battery is also better but i'm not sure yet.
Maybe people who have access to the beta can also share their experience. I can confirm the BETA will not brick our phones
Here you can download the beta. There is a manual to install without dev unlocked device!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1149265

Ah..You beat me to it... I too just installed it and its awesome first impressions. Its super buttery smooth and fast. I installed my update on the FW beta testing unit.
So the FW is 212 and rest all the same for mango.
Takeaway: DVP will get the Mango update and it works.
I will report back with more info.

notebookgrail said:
Ah..You beat me to it... I too just installed it and its awesome first impressions. Its super buttery smooth and fast. I installed my update on the FW beta testing unit.
So the FW is 212 and rest all the same for mango.
Takeaway: DVP will get the Mango update and it works.
I will report back with more info.
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both of you beat me jerks! j/k
update ran smooth on both the firmware updated and non updated devices. The experience is fantastic. There is no question of that. Mango is a demon
I need to test on the old f/w but users let me say this. New update + mango == you may think you are in mobile heaven
It's really funny that the devices are using 2 year old tech for all intents and purposes and it is outperforming android by leaps and bounds!
I should do a benchmark

can we update to Mango beta first, then only upgrade the firmware when it comes out? or is it better to wait until the firmware update is applied before installing Mango beta?

synergeia said:
can we update to Mango beta first, then only upgrade the firmware when it comes out? or is it better to wait until the firmware update is applied before installing Mango beta?
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If you don't have a spare device, i would recommend waiting it out for the FW to come and then update to Mango beta. All sources info lead to FW only update and no OS level update - still i would be cautious..becos you don't want the Mango experience to be ruined by the wifi crash.

Firmware and BetaMango?
Ok guys my phone is a junk right now mostly lockups and phone issues. Any help with finding downloading and installing the FW along with Mango? I would be very thankful.......

Didn't I tell ya. Mango rocks on the Dell.
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alodar1 said:
Didn't I tell ya. Mango rocks on the Dell.
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totally rocking on the dvp! easily now the best windows phone

domineus said:
totally rocking on the dvp! easily now the best windows phone
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all for the want of a tiny little fix....thanks for the drama Dell

alodar1 said:
all for the want of a tiny little fix....thanks for the drama Dell
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And shot themselves for this long and got their image tarnished (if not already).

notebookgrail said:
And shot themselves for this long and got their image tarnished (if not already).
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For sure. People are looking for 32GB WP7 phones but the Dell is not mentioned despite being the first OEM to ship legit 32GB devices. They would have been second only to Samsung IMO for best WP7 device. Should have got on top of the issues we reported faster letting positive word of mouth spread and capitalised on the form factor but I have to say, they seemed strangely uninterested in actually making an impact (even with the Venue android version). And the resulting bad rep is now really affecting their perception. Sad.

Without question...
What remains to be see is if they can do something to regain a lot of what they lost. I think if they make the concessions right they can convince a lot of customers to talk highly of Dell and that would go a long way.
If they just drop the firmware and continue as if nothing happened then the last memory they will have in many people's minds is the failed DVP start and that can sag their reputation for a LONG time. Ford comes to mind in that regard...

Back to Topic - One good thing with DVP and Mango compared to other devices:
Since DVP never had much homebrew action due to it not exposing API's as other vendors, it became a good thing with Mango. The reason is now Homebrew apps are either killed or don't work with Mango beta. I feel sad for HTC folks I am sure they will resurrect.

But the approved homebrew solution from chevronlabs should remedy that, right? BTW what is the best thing about Mango in everyday use?

efjay said:
But the approved homebrew solution from chevronlabs should remedy that, right? BTW what is the best thing about Mango in everyday use?
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I hope Chevron comes to rescue.
Linked Inbox, Chat (Messaging), improved Contacts Live tile (with who commented on FB status) and better people hub (groups - i dont want to Swift tons of Vendor garbage in FB.) - so far.

notebookgrail said:
I hope Chevron comes to rescue.
Linked Inbox, Chat (Messaging), improved Contacts Live tile (with who commented on FB status) and better people hub (groups - i dont want to Swift tons of Vendor garbage in FB.) - so far.
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Can you view videos in facebook feeds, and is youtube support better?

Guys, I get no more blurry pictures from my DVP, and that's without the updated firmware... Loving juicy mango.

omaropa said:
Guys, I get no more blurry pictures from my DVP, and that's without the updated firmware... Loving juicy mango.
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autofix

efjay said:
Can you view videos in facebook feeds, and is youtube support better?
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Its the same as before. Still you need to click watch video.

One thing i am noticing with Mango is if one uses the full Mango experience, the battery will be drained in 1/2 day. I used my phone the same way as i would+Mango and it drained in 8 hrs. Pre-Mango, i used to get 15 hrs.

Mango Build 7720 RTM; Any Takers?

I have been waiting long time for the official Mango Build 7720 RTM. It is now here ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1215501 )
Could the experts please take it up from there and make this available for our beloved HD2. Please please.....
CAUTION: ****PLEASE DO NOT TRY TO UPDATE YOUR HD2 WP7 ROM USING THESE FILES UNLESS YOU ARE AN EXPERT AND YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING OTHERWISE YOU WILL DESTROY YOUR SD CARD****

I second this..

defiantly, someone please have a go, cant wait for mango!

Oh .... just please. I would pay. Let's GO!

Cmon !!!

Add my vote for this as well, please! I'm still stuck at 7592 and would welcome anything beyond that release.

+1

+5000
Would love someone who has the knowledge to give it a go.

if it trough zune .... then it is no go ... need the .nb or .nbh files

Obviously people are already trying to crack this open, but I think our best hope is with DFT who probably already has it on an HD2 (in some form of stability) but is just waiting until MS's official release to make it available to the public.

No worries...I'm sure they've seen it are are keeping quiet lol...I'm sure someone will drop it on here soon!!!

there is hope

PlayStation said:
I have been waiting long time for the official Mango Build 7720 RTM. It is now here ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1215501 )
Could the experts please take it up from there and make this available for our beloved HD2. Please please.....
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Man your thanksmeter is 69 you will do better to know that it is not easy for the chiefs.
Everything will be fine gun them more time there still hard working on this project

Everyone wants it so bad, but I hope if we get it, the SIM error will be history. Cause right now thats our main issue with Mango.
So keep up the good work Devs

+1 yess, please!

One thing people aren't considering is that MS gave us 7396 7596 to use. They may not allow us using a ripe build like 7720. In other words, MS isn't raising hell about us using 7396 & 7596. But they might object if someone produce a custom build of 7720.
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What do you mean they gave us 7396 and 7596 to use, they cooked it for us? lol
Why would they care, the more people using WP7 the better for them.

@MartyLK
Enlighten me as well. What do you mean they gave us ... ?

They are allowing us. Those two beta builds aren't perfect and they figure they can sate the desire for a custom WP7 build with them. But this is all my speculation and not known fact. That's why I eluded to it the words, "They may not allow".
There has been a lot of behind-the-scenes-discussions with modders and MS probably figures it's impossible to stop illegal WP7 builds without getting the law involved. I'm sure MS doesn't want to go there so they allow a crippled build to serve the purpose of sating the modder's needs.
I bet if modders start messing with a ripe Mango, MS will come alive.

na, as pointed out, its in MSs intrest that we do get on board with it, the problem isnt them, its the OEMS and networks, if they think they are getting screwed they may come down, or force MS to come down on us, remember, all us HD2 users are not buying a new device which is costing them money
no, the single biggest worry for us should be people who freeload whatever they like from the market place, this will piss MS off and may force them to screw us over, they are a lot more likely to listen to the OEMs and networks if we screw over the marketplace.
Keep MS happy and buy your apps, lets let sleeping dogs lie!!