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HTC Update in 10 Days

Vonn over at Android Community Forums just posted that they got an email from HTC Customer Care saying that there will be an update in the very near future.
Full post from Vonn:
Lots of people will probably be interested in this. It was mailed to me today from HTC Customer Care and comes from HTC Head Office.
"HTC is actively working on a software update that will make your experience on your Hero device better. A partial software update is ready in 10 days and a major release will be available in mid September containing local language support.. Please check our website from time to time and update your device when the software is available"
Customer Care don't know exactly what will be contained in the update though so keep an eye on the site.
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Cool.
Lets hope the telco's have betas and are testing to allow for us branded Hero users to take advantage of this.

Normally branded phones have their own software, at least my htc diamond did. The website didn't accept my serial code, instead I had to go to the vodafone site to download the official vodafone rom.
Flashing it to a manufacturer rom (for example normal htc-rom) would screw up my warranty through vodafone (but I heard you would get warranty through htc)
So don't just flash, read before you do that

Stafflover said:
Normally branded phones have their own software, at least my htc diamond did. The website didn't accept my serial code, instead I had to go to the vodafone site to download the official vodafone rom.
Flashing it to a manufacturer rom (for example normal htc-rom) would screw up my warranty through vodafone (but I heard you would get warranty through htc)
So don't just flash, read before you do that
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That's good advice. Be warned, people!

Assuming you still had access, you could just flash it back, no?

Excellent news

Makes a change for HTC normally they wait for the guys on this forum to release updates for them. They must be keen to make sure they get the android market share.

Brilliant!

Excellent!!!

Great!
Can someone enlighten me as to how these updates (especially the "major" update in September) work? Do we completely reflash the entire rom? Will this erase our settings, personal data such as smses and downloaded apps? And will it bring the phone back to being unrooted?
Thanks

It will almost certainly wipe your phone but thanks to the fact that so much is stored on Google's servers and the SD card, I didn't find wiping my Hero was actually too bad. Certainly I was up and running again with far less hassle than my Touch Pro...

It will be interesting to see what improvements HTC can put together and what user issues they resolve with it.

Well, I certainly hope this is the case but the guy I spoke with today at HTC customer service in Sweden gave me quite the opposite impression. He told me no major fw-updates were planned, only minor fixes but no dates were set.
Hopefully, he's not up to speed

he's not, my email from HTC came this evening saying 10 days first, September second, i asked because i hope firmware update will take care of the led issue

Good just in time for the US release. Can't wait to hear what they manage to do.

Aridon said:
Good just in time for the US release. Can't wait to hear what they manage to do.
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So that's why they are doing a firmware update for the US market. Couldn't understand why they were so keen yo get an update out.

suisen said:
he's not, my email from HTC came this evening saying 10 days first, September second, i asked because i hope firmware update will take care of the led issue
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re the leds that will be interesting as my hero has been sent back to HTC for this very reason. When i spoke to customer support they said there was no record of the led issue being reported

Not having LED issues here so I hope the update addresses the UI lag with some performance enhancements.

To be honest, I'm hopeful but not optimistic. Heard all the 'new release in ten days' bollocks from HTC when I had the absolute disaster that was my Kaiser, and never got anything from them then. I hope they've changed...

The Doctor said:
It will almost certainly wipe your phone but thanks to the fact that so much is stored on Google's servers and the SD card, I didn't find wiping my Hero was actually too bad. Certainly I was up and running again with far less hassle than my Touch Pro...
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Not necessarily. If you're moving from one major build to another, e.g. T-Mobile US to T-Mobile UK ROM, or T-Mobile to Rogers ROM, then yes, you will probably need to wipe. My experience with the 'official' ROMs is that they never require a wipe and are designed to be so.

Well it's not going to be Froyo but the future looks bright!!

This has been taken from the latest post on the SE Xperia Blog.
Sony Ericsson Xperia™ X10 to get UXP upgrade in Q4 2010
Xperia™ X10 in Q4 2010 are:
- Upgrade to Android OS version 2.1
- HD video recording as per the same execution as Sony Ericsson Vivaz™
- Wireless home connectivity via DLNA
- Improvements to signature applications Timescape™ and Mediascape to make them even smarter and richer.
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http://http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/category/xperia-x10/
I must say I'm happy about the HD recording. I was hoping for more codec support though.
I'm also wondering what that means for flash support? I am aware that Froyo is going to support it natively, Do you think there will be an add-on made available for us on 2.1?

IN addition to that SE have confirmed a small performance based update in the coming weeks.
" would also like to emphasise that there will be an additional smaller software update, already in the next couple of weeks aiming to enhance the usability and performance of Xperia™ X10. In the next post, I will share more details and precise timings for when this update will be released."
http://http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/category/xperia-x10/

HD video recording...awesome! Also, the Vivaz has autofocus during video recording, which is really cool

how is the update to 2.1 going to be done? through SEUS?
i have a prototype andi can't update my phone through SEUS, will it be possible for me to upgrade to 2.1?

Astral07 said:
how is the update to 2.1 going to be done? through SEUS?
i have a prototype andi can't update my phone through SEUS, will it be possible for me to upgrade to 2.1?
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According to the SE blog the update will be done via SEUS.
"The upgrade will be made available to consumers through the update service at www.sonyericsson.com"
Taken from the blog
I'm currently on Orange UK and it wasn't possible to update my X10i until I followed the "Debranding process". Have you tried that?

according to some other members, a protorype can't be debranded so i didn't even try

Astral07 said:
according to some other members, a protorype can't be debranded so i didn't even try
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Really? So does that mean that the hardware sepc differs on your device?
I thought if it was just a matter of software you'd be able to flash the device with new files.

THis is good news. I sure hope that they TWEAK THE DAMN CAMERA LIGHT. To maybe automatically turn on when the camera is focusing. Kinda like the red/orange lights on other cameras. That would be awesome!

i never expected this phone to do anyting HD. sounds great!

skydirt said:
THis is good news. I sure hope that they TWEAK THE DAMN CAMERA LIGHT. To maybe automatically turn on when the camera is focusing. Kinda like the red/orange lights on other cameras. That would be awesome!
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Funny you should mention that as I was just checking the change log on android 2x. It does mention tweaks to the camera software (including auto flash).
So I think this will sort out our camera issues!

Baggyb said:
Funny you should mention that as I was just checking the change log on android 2x. It does mention tweaks to the camera software (including auto flash).
So I think this will sort out our camera issues!
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Wow, this makes me more happy then the other changes! thanks for the info!

Baggyb said:
Really? So does that mean that the hardware sepc differs on your device?
I thought if it was just a matter of software you'd be able to flash the device with new files.
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no, my hardware is completely the same...it's just that SEUS application doesn't recognize my phone because of the software (i'm running 007 instead of 14 or 16...) so i can't update, so how would i flash? are they using some other method for completely flashing the ROM?

Astral07 said:
no, my hardware is completely the same...it's just that SEUS application doesn't recognize my phone because of the software (i'm running 007 instead of 14 or 16...) so i can't update, so how would i flash? are they using some other method for completely flashing the ROM?
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Im not sure but root could solve your problem. We are still waiting for it.

Ya auto flash...that would be nice too. Man it is pretty bad when the list of needed improvements is soooooo big that you start forgetting about them. At any rate its still my fav phone to date (former iphone 3g user) and the updates are welcome.
I do think that SE could have done a lot better with rolling out the phone with a current OS to begin with though. Especially noting the delays to launch.
Ill take what I can get, even if I have to wait until when??? Like a half a year from now. Im depressed

HTC Desire runs android 2.1, and the camera has autoflash. So, we should get it too.

hello htc evo is all i can say, x10 is a great phone but possibly waiting 8 months for 2.1 is just plain stupid...

if things are like this, i think it will just snowball. 2.1 in Q4 while the 2.2 would have been out for a good 3-4 months already. SE will then just hear louder cries for 2.2 updates (mostly i believe, is the flash support). and then what? another 5 month wait? will a newer version come out then? why play a catch up game that you probably can't win?

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Im not sure but root could solve your problem. We are still waiting for it.
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yes, i know, i'm watching the root bounty thread very closely
but if root doesn't happen, maaaan, i'm so screwed

i9000 to get Froyo ~ No specific date as yet!

As posted on asia cnet.com web site.
The i9000 will eventually at some stage get Android 2.2 Froyo.
Read here for details.

yay that will make things even better

I don't mind waiting. 2.1 is still pretty cool, and I rather seem them test Froyo properly rather than rush out an update.

re's another outside source posting details. This time it's from GSMArena.
Read it here.

it woudl be awesome with froyo on it

according to SamsungFirmwares on Twitter:
SamsungFirmwares said:
So Samsung is testing 2.2 (No info about phones) And updates for 2.1 in more countries soon.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bmtqrpTBrY
If I understand this Manager right Samsung has already working phones with 2.2 and they will launch it soon after the phone will launch.

Actually he didn't say that. This interview was answered with the usual catalogue of noncommittal standard responses. He only said they are working on it.

hermanherz said:
If I understand this Manager right Samsung has already working phones with 2.2 and they will launch it soon after the phone will launch.
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at that event in UAE Samsung have stated that the Galaxy S will have the update in around two months

As Eldar Murtazin state,
It was in March that I shared my impressions of Galaxy S, those who do not remember, can read it here.
Quite frequently I am asked to tell about this device in detail, more over some say that there are some so-called reviews in the Internet. To my mind the problem is that for the time being there is no official software for the device. There will be a couple of different versions before it is officially released as well as the default set of programs can be changed. Those prototypes that people have today do not have final design, they are different from commercial devices (there is no curve in the lower body part in the final samples).
In Russia as in the majority of states it will be released in mid-July. Some countries will see the device one month earlier. But the update to Android 2.2 for this phone will be available only in mid-Summer. So is there a point in writing about it if something may change radically? I suggest that there are no problems in the device as such and it is possible to write about it. You can get general impression even today. In this dilemma I ask for your advice, what should I do best? It will be logical to add a part about the camera and description of some applications to the first article and call it the preliminary review. Should such material be published and announced on the main page – remains a question for me as well. Give your advice and recommendations, your opinion is important as always.
As a small bonus I want to mention that Galaxy S is important for the Android market in another way. It is known that most people consider Marketplace to be the only place where you can get applications and assume that Google will protect its right for it at all costs. In other words it will not tolerate other similar applications by other companies. It suddenly appears that Samsung can install such applications; particularly the device has Samsung application and book stores. What is more amazing is that while discussing this issue one of company’s top manager said that on the device you can use any search from any company. Google does not insist on the use of its search by default. The fact that everyone uses it today does not mean that there are any restrictions by Google. This remarkable discovery makes Android not only very open system but the system whose main advantage is the possibility to use any solutions available. This is namely what Samsung is doing. In this aspect both companies are following an understandable path, by not restricting users in choice of services. Admit that you did not know that Google is so flexible about Android? Or the reason is in antitrust legislation? I do not know but the fact remains, Google does not impose any one-sided terms on the hardware manufacturers.
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This would be amazing on 2.2 as its faster than an n1 on 2.1 so when this gets 2.2 it will be the fastest android phon !

MacaronyMax said:
This would be amazing on 2.2 as its faster than an n1 on 2.1 so when this gets 2.2 it will be the fastest android phon !
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Totally agree, games from GAmeloft like (Sandstorm) is so freaken smooth like constant 60fps
The OS seems very snappy already and 2.2 is just gonna blow my mind away when its ready for our S!!!

as froyo is just officially released today as open source samsung could and would not try to port it until now ... so depending how smooth the transition goes samsung might actually get it done in 2 or 3 month

v1rtu4l said:
as froyo is just officially released today as open source samsung could and would not try to port it until now ... so depending how smooth the transition goes samsung might actually get it done in 2 or 3 month
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lol nice to see you here v1rtu4l. samsung will probably take their sweet time to get this update out, you and i both know how they work.. hopefully well be able to add Froyo to the Galaxy S ourselves as it was rooted today.

Am tempted to pick up this phone for the screen and AV format support. Watching videos should be great, if i can go by my experience with HD2 running Coreplayer. And no conversion required.
Also have a N1 running Froyo. Question is, once you root and update the i9000 to Froyo, what happens to its divx/mkv support? Do you lose it? Can its AV player be extracted as a .apk file and reinstalled? If so, can the same app be installed on the N1?

krumbs said:
Am tempted to pick up this phone for the screen and AV format support. Watching videos should be great, if i can go by my experience with HD2 running Coreplayer. And no conversion required.
Also have a N1 running Froyo. Question is, once you root and update the i9000 to Froyo, what happens to its divx/mkv support? Do you lose it? Can its AV player be extracted as a .apk file and reinstalled? If so, can the same app be installed on the N1?
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interesting point, is the codec support built into touchwiz or a feature on the media player?.... one of my big reasons for buying this phone is root and the codec support....

"No specific date as yet" is what kills it. Is it in a month or 2, or in the end of December ? I doubt its hard for Samsung to update to 2.2, although, it does take forever for HTC to port

kolyan said:
"No specific date as yet" is what kills it. Is it in a month or 2, or in the end of December ? I doubt its hard for Samsung to update to 2.2, although, it does take forever for HTC to port
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at least you hear HTC and Moto talk about it....I havent heard much from Samsung lately....

I'm eagerly awaiting some guru Rom maker to deliver Froyo to the GS. The first one to do so will definitely be getting a donation from me.

The phone is rooted... how far are we to get froyo on this.. ...
Waiting from samsung is a pain.

Truth on the Froyo tracking hoax

Incredible how much info on the new Froyo update on this forum is plain Incorrect. Devices with original Dutch (Netherlands) product codes are not oficially upgradeable yet nor are they in Germany or any other countries on the European mainland! Anyone who claims it is either didn't remove the KIES hack properly or changed their product code accidentally in a previous flash.
As far as I know the update is as of yet oficially only available to Scandinavian customers. They do this because it is a small market with relatively few technologically challenged customers. If there are any major flaws (major meaning so big it would result in legal problems or put a serious strain on the user experience if they went ahead seeding the fw to a greater subset of customers) in the firmware they will correct it before rolling it out to other markets. Nokia (with the very flawed N97) and Sony Ericisson are both known to follow this logic as well and usually pick the Nordic countries as guinea pigs (or sometimes even more narrowed down to only Norway).
But don't take my word for it, take a look at this video from Nokia's highest product manager.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBah223no8Y&feature=player_embedded

Hi, Finland here. Stock, unrooted --> Kies kindly offered to upgrade my SGS to 2.2 a few days ago - YAY!
I am really, really pissed off right now. So far, I've come upon about 50 force close bugs. In addition to that, I have found very little (or none) new features that I really need or even notice, or any improvements/fixes.
But I TRUST all these will be fixed for you all in other countries!

thurtig said:
Hi, Finland here. Stock, unrooted --> Kies kindly offered to upgrade my SGS to 2.2 a few days ago - YAY!
I am really, really pissed off right now. So far, I've come upon about 50 force close bugs. In addition to that, I have found very little (or none) new features that I really need or even notice, or any improvements/fixes.
But I TRUST all these will be fixed for you all in other countries!
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Thank you for playing guinea pig, because of you I won't have to be angry

There is just one slight problem.
We keep reporting bugs to Samsung Finland, but their response is mostly:
"We haven't come across this before. We are really surprised."
This is even for show-stopper bugs like the "can't receive SMS messages" bug, which is highly annoying (btw, this is an Eclari 2.1 bug, haven't tested under 2.2).
So, my question is: what good is all this testing, if they don't take feedback from experienced developers/users/testers/debuggers seriously?

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There is just one slight problem.
We keep reporting bugs to Samsung Finland, but their response is mostly:
"We haven't come across this before. We are really surprised."
This is even for show-stopper bugs like the "can't receive SMS messages" bug, which is highly annoying (btw, this is an Eclari 2.1 bug, haven't tested under 2.2).
So, my question is: what good is all this testing, if they don't take feedback from experienced developers/users/testers/debuggers seriously?
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I guess the problem is that this strategy of using a contained set of customers as test case is thought out by a couple of geniuses in Samsung corporate and they fail to direct the resources necessary to pump up customer service departments in those areas to handle reports from users. Receiving bug reports from the right people in one thing, logging and handling them is quite another trait.
I therefore doubt that the goal of seeding the firmware to tech savvy Scandinavians with high speed broadband connections is really to receive bug reports from them. Bug reports are usually only picked up at an earlier stage of development. Basically, the feedback from the Scandinavians is used to either decide whether to go ahead releasing the fw to the rest of the world or to send it back to the development team for further fixing.
You are right to note that this makes the whole idea behind the strategy seem like weak. However, the goal of the test is only to assure that the new firmware does not cause any major deterioration in usability or customer experience. Remaining smaller issues can also be fixed once the firmware is rolled out to a greater population of customers.
You should look at the release in the Scandinavian countries as step 3 superseding testing first by Samsung's own engineers and second by people in e.g. this community two whom the software is intentionally "leaked". The leak being Samsung making it possible to test for them by changing one line in a text file.

Could be that their servers are simply not prepared for a simultaneous global release.
They say galaxy s sales have already passed the 5M mark...
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

pmos69 said:
Could be that their servers are simply not prepared for a simultaneous global release.
They say galaxy s sales have already passed the 5M mark...
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That would be one possibility. It happened to apple when they released the iPhone 3G simultaneously with an update for the iPhone 2G. I remember apple's servers being so overloaded that customers couldn't activate their newly purchased 3G devices. I don't think it explains though why Samsung hasn't released the fw outside of Scandinavia yet.

pmos69 said:
Could be that their servers are simply not prepared for a simultaneous global release.
They say galaxy s sales have already passed the 5M mark...
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Not a bad point at all.
I mean, they're a Fortune 500 company so you expect them to have the infrastructure to perform a worldwide release but perhaps they did encounter these issues.
Or perhaps it's typical samsung bs

thurtig said:
Hi, Finland here. Stock, unrooted --> Kies kindly offered to upgrade my SGS to 2.2 a few days ago - YAY!
I am really, really pissed off right now. So far, I've come upon about 50 force close bugs. In addition to that, I have found very little (or none) new features that I really need or even notice, or any improvements/fixes.
But I TRUST all these will be fixed for you all in other countries!
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Thanks for testing the firmware for us (Y)... cheers!

I am trying to put this point to my fellow Xda members that even if these firmwares are released thru kies, they may still be public beta or Rc. Like all the eclair jmx builds which some claim to be released to a specific location, could only prove that they are testing the software among a specific group of people.
Most probably a release will have a proper timestamp on the firmware code. I still firmly believe jpm is a Rc at best unless Samsung confirms it to be a release.
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I still firmly believe jpm is a Rc at best unless Samsung confirms it to be a release.
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Samsung has confirmed the version they are rolling out to the Nordic region now is "The Android 2.2 upgrade". (press release)
That's not to say they won't release a different version to the rest of the world, but it is not an RC.

Have any of the guys that upgraded and have problems, tried to factory reset the phone?
Froyo is somewhat different from Eclair and i think, that you should wipe at least dalvik cache, to have the stable device (that's from my experience with Hero).
I've read, that people have issues after upgrade, but everything's starting to work fine after wipe.
Personally i've updated to froyo using Kies registry hack, but after update i did factory reset, and i do not have ANY issues with the phone.

So if the rest of the world is going to get froyo through kies until the end of October, nobody is saying anything about the OTA update.
Anyone has a guesstimate on OTA update?

szczeslaw said:
Have any of the guys that upgraded and have problems, tried to factory reset the phone?
Froyo is somewhat different from Eclair and i think, that you should wipe at least dalvik cache, to have the stable device (that's from my experience with Hero).
I've read, that people have issues after upgrade, but everything's starting to work fine after wipe.
Personally i've updated to froyo using Kies registry hack, but after update i did factory reset, and i do not have ANY issues with the phone.
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same here - factory reset - phone all good.
been using Copilot for 4 days or so now ... and has not missed a trick - work is 35 plus miles - even handled bluetooth calls while using copilot - no problems so far.
problem with my mic though so need tmobile to update so i can take it back

szczeslaw said:
Have any of the guys that upgraded and have problems, tried to factory reset the phone?
Froyo is somewhat different from Eclair and i think, that you should wipe at least dalvik cache, to have the stable device (that's from my experience with Hero).
I've read, that people have issues after upgrade, but everything's starting to work fine after wipe.
Personally i've updated to froyo using Kies registry hack, but after update i did factory reset, and i do not have ANY issues with the phone.
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conuk said:
same here - factory reset - phone all good.
been using Copilot for 4 days or so now ... and has not missed a trick - work is 35 plus miles - even handled bluetooth calls while using copilot - no problems so far.
problem with my mic though so need tmobile to update so i can take it back
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I probably went overboard but coming from a variety of symbian handsets I always like to start from a clean slate when upgrading to a major firmware.
I was on Tayutama's JM8 ROM. I backed up my contacts via Kies (even though I already had a backup on Outlook). I used SMS BackUp & Restore and Call Logs BackUp & Restore to save my SMS/Call log info. I didn't back up anything through Titanium. I un-did RyanZA's OCLF.
I then flashed a stock JM8 through Odin with .512 pit re-partition checked. Booted up phone and reset to factory settings.
Then upgraded to JP6 through Kies with XEE registry hack. Then factory wiped again (Probably unnecassary, I know). Then restored contacts from Kies and SMS/Call Logs from the Back & Restore apps. Re-installed all apps manually through AppBrain again. (I read restoring from Titanium causes conflict with the new firmware).
Been running it for 3 days without reboot and no force closes and the battery life is the same as before. Loving the new froyo features. No SMS bugs, Market App present and upgraded, no camera bugs, wifi even better than JM8, GPS slightly better - good enough for the occasional car navigation. The only issues I've had are with the browser which now crashes on the Guardian website, when it never used to before. But the flash websites work like a charm.

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Been running it for 3 days without reboot and no force closes and the battery life is the same as before. Loving the new froyo features. No SMS bugs, no camera bugs, wifi even better than JM8, GPS slightly better - good enough for the occasional car navigation. The only issues I've had are with the browser which now crashes on the Guardian website, when it never used to before. But the flash websites work like a charm.
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Do you have moved apps to SD card? Settings -> Applications -> Manage Applications -> Third-party -> app -> Move to SD card?
- After boot the icons of the moved apps have gone from the Home pages and Folders.
Do you have in the Contacts all the letters on the right side selection?
- There is only two letters and a dot etc. Third of the letters have gone away. There could be contacts or not, no direct pick to contact any more.
etc.
Yes, I made factory reset before upgrade.
I'm very disappointed to the upgrade, but there is one cheerful feature for me. I have bought two Samsung phones at once: the first one and the last one.

I just can't understand why you are moving apps to sd on sgs? Man you have 2gb internal memory for your apps. What's the point?
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We got a statement from a Samsung offical. I cant post a link here because I'm a "new" member (more like old lurker), but if you go to droidnytt.no with google translate you'll see it. Basically it was taken down.

[email protected] said:
Do you have moved apps to SD card? Settings -> Applications -> Manage Applications -> Third-party -> app -> Move to SD card?
- After boot the icons of the moved apps have gone from the Home pages and Folders.
Do you have in the Contacts all the letters on the right side selection?
- There is only two letters and a dot etc. Third of the letters have gone away. There could be contacts or not, no direct pick to contact any more.
etc.
Yes, I made factory reset before upgrade.
I'm very disappointed to the upgrade, but there is one cheerful feature for me. I have bought two Samsung phones at once: the first one and the last one.
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Nope, haven't moved any apps to SD. Didn't see the point when I have 2GB storage.
Now that you mentioned the Contacts letters on the right hand side, yes, I do have some random letters (every third or fourth letter) replaced with a dot. But the sliding search still works the same way and I can access the contacts in the relevant alphabet area. Looks odd, but not a deal-breaker for me.
I am enjoying this release of froyo. It will see through until Samsung release the proper UK release which I will then no doubt be eager to adopt anyway.

Before this thread goes any further, would the OP please explain how they know this?
Because, for all we know, it may be fiction. There have been plenty of cases here where stuff has been "confirmed" by people, and the reality was, their "confirmation" was based on guessing, or rumor sites.
So I'd like to know how we know this to be true? Whilst I'd be inclined to believe that the mobile carrier simply decided that they wanted to rollout a beta, and it is true, that is an opinion. And I'd like to see others start to challenge claims made here, just to be sure we are accurate

Buying factory installed Mango DVP

Hello all, after reading through all the frustrating problems with the mango update, I had lost hope in buying this. But now Dell sells factory installed Mango devices. Will it be any differentthan the ones you guys have?.
Maybe those gkitches have been solved?. I will await for your much valuable advice.

chaihg said:
Hello all, after reading through all the frustrating problems with the mango update, I had lost hope in buying this. But now Dell sells factory installed Mango devices. Will it be any differentthan the ones you guys have?.
Maybe those gkitches have been solved?. I will await for your much valuable advice.
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the one i bought right before xmas came with 7395. it updated to mango without problem though.

Just plug in your phone and update. The hickups you are reading are from people that have installed custom roms for the most part.

MJCS said:
Just plug in your phone and update. The hickups you are reading are from people that have installed custom roms for the most part.
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weatherx said:
the one i bought right before xmas came with 7395. it updated to mango without problem though.
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Is that so? I thought the Mango update broke the compass and wifi. I thought that buying a pre-installed Mango device would most probably be tested or rectified than the earlier builds which came with Win7.
If that is not the case and if upgrading to Mango via Zune is good enough then I am buying it now. Right now.
Am I right in my assumption?

Mango didnt break the compass Dell did.

The non-functioning compass is not at the fault of Microsoft or the 7.5 update. Dell did that, for various reasons I'd rather not repeat due to profanity restrictions.
I bought mine around June of 2011, didn't come with 7.5 on it, but when the update started rolling out, I didn't feel like waiting and forced Zune to apply the update to my phone.
It went smoothly for the most part(my computer restarted a few times during the update process, but that's probably a problem related to my particular hardware.), and the phone has been running smoothly for the most part. I've only had to pull the battery twice out of the couple of months that I've had the update installed. Apparently there are compass issues, but I've never really had to use the compass in any app, most navigation apps (I use the standard Maps and GMaps Pro) seem to work just fine without it.
You'll love the phone, definitely won't be something you regret buying, in my opinion. But with the newest round of WP7.5 devices coming around, you might want to stick it out a bit more and see if you can get something a little more worth your money.

MisterPhilleh said:
The non-functioning compass is not at the fault of Microsoft or the 7.5 update. Dell did that, for various reasons I'd rather not repeat due to profanity restrictions.
I bought mine around June of 2011, didn't come with 7.5 on it, but when the update started rolling out, I didn't feel like waiting and forced Zune to apply the update to my phone.
It went smoothly for the most part(my computer restarted a few times during the update process, but that's probably a problem related to my particular hardware.), and the phone has been running smoothly for the most part. I've only had to pull the battery twice out of the couple of months that I've had the update installed. Apparently there are compass issues, but I've never really had to use the compass in any app, most navigation apps (I use the standard Maps and GMaps Pro) seem to work just fine without it.
You'll love the phone, definitely won't be something you regret buying, in my opinion. But with the newest round of WP7.5 devices coming around, you might want to stick it out a bit more and see if you can get something a little more worth your money.
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Thats a fantastic piece of advice. Even though Lumia is available for cheap in part of europe I come from, I want to relish the physical keyboard in DVP hence am contemplating. I almost went to the extent of clicking the BUY IT NOW on eBay and then figured I will talk some gurus here.
This will be my first Windows Phone and hence I will spend less money and buy a DVP. Let me see for 6months to what Nokia has in store for us. 170euros for 6months is pretty good value for money.
If anybody else has a piece of cake to share with me, please do so.

I'm also new to Windows Phone 7 and my first WP7 phone is a Dell Venue Pro. I was also reluctant in buying the DVP because I read several user reviews that the hardware is extremely buggy, but after taking time to read Endgadget reviews and other reputable (sorry I can't give you a link) authors, I bought a DVP. So far, I've been more than content with the phone, and let me tell you: the physical keyboard is amazing and the operating system is amazing (and this is coming from an Apple disciple..hehehe).
My only complaint is that the new Mango update has power problems, whenever I drain my phone's battery, it wouldn't boot - hell it wouldn't even charge. The only solution I've found is to take out the battery, turn the phone on (yes, without the battery), once you see the Dell logo put the battery back and the phone will now boot, then charge it. Or just make sure you don't drain the DVP's battery.
Also, I don't really like the Windows Phone 7 Connector for Mac. I just wish Microsoft would give us Mac users a native Zune software...oh well..hehehe...
But all in all, I would recommend the Dell Venue Pro, it's an amazing piece of technology - very sleek and definitely a head turner.

Ok then. I decided I will buy a DVP and use it for 6months and then change over to second generation devices.
It is still a tough choice considering that DVP sells for 220euros brand new while newly released Omnia W with super amoled and front facing camera costs 290euros