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Nexus One display actually not 480x800 resolution?

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The comments hit the nail on the head from the Arstechnica article. It's not that it isn't 480x800 exactly but it's the way the color pixels are arranged. Effectively you still have 480x800 addressible pixels, but it's the underlying hardware that gets you that. Without actually having one in my hand to compare to the wife's 3GS I can't honestly say if the display is better or worse for the purposes of a phone.
What the article does round-about say is that it's geared for images not exactly text--basically how an AMOLED TV would be arranged. Thankfully I don't think we'll have the same issues like in the old days of text looking like complete crap on a TV (for those that remember plugging in a C64/Apple II into a TV.)
Point is, it doesn't matter how they do it, as long as in the end--to the apps and images seen on it--that it's using 480x800. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Its just a new technology, As long as 800x480 images show up as vibrantly and sharp as they do on the N1 I'm ok with it.
The possibility of driver tweaks to perfect it is icing on the cake.

I have OMNIA II and this Nexus One, both is AMOLED with 480x800 resolution.
I can confirmed is OMNIA II screen is definately better than Nexus One in term of clarity in details.
Just simply compared and you will notice image display in OMNIA II is much more sharpen and clear than Nexus One.
But not deny I believe Nexus One still is 480x800 just slightly low quality compared with AMOLED by Samsung.
But in overall, you still will definately satisfied on it with your Nexus One.
About the color banding issue, I believe Nexus One also same as OMNIA II running maybe 65k color or whatsoever, it is not 16M as you seen same color banding issue in both devices but it is ok as you can simply just reduce the banding in some image by changing the color dept from 16bit to 8bit (you can simply do this with PC IrfanView software). This will give you must better result, althought it is not perfect, always remember they is no perfect thing in this world.

the screen is 480x800
you can see that in the boot loader the size of the font ...........
in the apps and pic
this is just another .......... info

As long as my 960x800 wallpapers still work and look great, it doesn't really matter to me. The text has always been readable for me.

Wasn't everyone super satisfied with N1's display before this article was posted? or suddenly the display quality depreciated now???

Now on gizmodo.

Just comparing my Nexus with the Hero (soon to be on ebay).
And looking at the letter L for example (white on black in htc clock), the hero is indead 'clearer' when looking at the straight edges. It applies on other text with black on white as well.
This is not to confused with screen res. though. Since websites that would be 'fuzzy' and hard to read without zooming in on the Hero are perfectly readable on the Nexus.
Not quite sure if I understand the logic of that...
But the Nexus does have more information on the screen and so we pages are more readable while zoomed out.
Something to do wuth the way contasting edges merge ?
Zuber

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The main picture in the article itself is hugely misguiding... he is comparing a icon created by nexus one screen with the one that was created by an emulator on large screen. if you zoom in you camera to pixel level, on your LCD, you will not see such pure white, grey or black squares.. they will be just like N1... bands of 3 colors, RGB. The only difference is the sequence of these 3 colors in LCD and N1.
Blue LEDs have less life than others and thus, pentile pattern in N1 is designed to reduce the dead pixel scenarios. All AMOLEDs use some pattern that is different from traditional LCD pattern. Therefore, fonts will always look bad on AMOLED until different font rendering techniques are developed. How bad? Well if you have been using Win XP on LCD and never had any problems with it... you will never know the difference. It wasn't until Vista that MS enabled by default the cleartype fonts which had special algorithms for LCDs.
We already have another thread on this matter. It might be better to merge them.

Another point of note.
It's not really noticable (perhaps just slightly) when looking from a normal operating distance, say 30cm from your eyes (no I didn't measure it).
Though you might bring the screen closer for some types of activity.
Zuber

Yes I can notice the lack of completely-straight lines (aka "fuzziness" or "bleeding") if I look closely at certain text like "l" or images with hard lines. It's not that big of a deal to me though because you really have to inspect the screen to see it, and issues that this is part of the risk when buying a phone with a newer screen technology.
I do think it's a little unfair though that the Nexus gets targeted so much when other phones that will sell more (like the Desire) are using the same screen.

arkavat said:
The main picture in the article itself is hugely misguiding... he is comparing a icon created by nexus one screen with the one that was created by an emulator on large screen. if you zoom in you camera to pixel level, on your LCD, you will not see such pure white, grey or black squares.. they will be just like N1... bands of 3 colors, RGB. The only difference is the sequence of these 3 colors in LCD and N1.
Blue LEDs have less life than others and thus, pentile pattern in N1 is designed to reduce the dead pixel scenarios. All AMOLEDs use some pattern that is different from traditional LCD pattern. Therefore, fonts will always look bad on AMOLED until different font rendering techniques are developed. How bad? Well if you have been using Win XP on LCD and never had any problems with it... you will never know the difference. It wasn't until Vista that MS enabled by default the cleartype fonts which had special algorithms for LCDs.
We already have another thread on this matter. It might be better to merge them.
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absolutely agree with you... over time when the text rendering and graphic rendering improves, you'll see that this "so-called issue" will disappear... just like cleartype & LCDs... this will be a problem on "EVERY" AMOLED display at this time... it's just the way this hardware has been designed... and the software is not exactly up-to-date when it comes to rendering... and yeah ppl, don't compare this to standard displays like the Hero or iPhone... text & graphic rendering for these type of screens may look sharper because software has caught up with the hardware... I doubt anyone would ever notice this if this article wasn't posted...

faraz1992 said:
Wasn't everyone super satisfied with N1's display before this article was posted? or suddenly the display quality depreciated now???
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Nope! I have known about the Pentile matrix OLED displays since late '06. I'm very happy that the N1 uses this superior technology.

Superior? I haven't heard much indicating it to be superior, except maybe in longevity. Or is there something else I'm missing?

Vash63 said:
Superior? I haven't heard much indicating it to be superior, except maybe in longevity. Or is there something else I'm missing?
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A lot has been written about the Pentile matrix display technology for the past several years. Samsung loved it so much that they bought the company that pioneered it a few years back.

About our displays.

Im pretty annoyed of all the people nit-picking about our displays, and how its grainy, etc. (The whole pen-tile thing). I was searching up on it and it is actually an advantage! it gives us better battery life, images are sharper than normal, and are brighter than normal while not using more battery, so you dont have to dim it to save battery (which i hated with normal displays).
anyone who is going to complain about it read this.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/05/2...x2-and-its-qhd-display-pentile-at-its-finest/

Why does this display looks so grainy.Does anyone know?
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asesino said:
Why does this display looks so grainy.Does anyone know?
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lol
10 char.

who has been complaining?? My display looks bad ass!!!

I have no display complaints either, only the auto brightness, can't ever make it's mind up.

msd24200 said:
I have no display complaints either, only the auto brightness, can't ever make it's mind up.
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haha i know right! that has nothing to do with the display though, that is the accelerometer. and i love the display on this thing, i can actually see it in the daylight!! that has been a HUGE issue for me with HTC phones (almost every phone i have owned has been HTC). i can see it perfect walking down the street with the sun bright as sh!t. also the views on it, i can see everything still good when tilting the phone.

OP you haven't owned an iphone4 or SGS have you? Our display may be good for battery life but viewing angles, color reproduction and quality is garbage.
Not to mention the horrible gradients.
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I have owned the Captivate, Inspire, and Atrix. I passed my Captivate on to the wife, and now when I pick it up, I think the display looks horrible, and think the Atrix is crisper, and brighter than the others.

The captivate had a much better display in my opinion.
I love my atrix though and the display is not "garbage" either.
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The widgets looks so small on the Atrix qHD 960x540 screen.
Is there a way or app to switch the display to 800x480??
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Did you even read the article you posted?
You get a higher resolution and better battery life and better whites, compared to LCD displays, at the cost of blurrier text, grainier images, and poor yellow and green reproduction.
And it may give better battery life compared to normal LCDs that don't use pentile since it has fewer sub-pixels to drive, but it doesn't give the same battery savings that are possible from OLED displays as those completely shut off any black pixels for both battery saving and for true blacks. OLEDs also have better whites compared to LCDs due to the nature of the technology.

Question: do our displays use less power to display white or black?

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Question: do our displays use less power to display white or black?
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Yes on white, since only 1 sub-pixel needs to be used vs 3, and no on black.

Dude, whites on amoled are blue. It is true that amoled is not lit up when displaying blacks. However, it is the only advantage. In my experience every other color, especially whites can drain the hell out of amoleds. Oh and amoleds are prone to a permanent burn in.
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Atrix display is boss

Why such a debate? A screen is a screen, it shows images, and does what its gotta do.
If you don't like it, then you shouldn't have brought it in the first place.

tehrules said:
Why such a debate? A screen is a screen, it shows images, and does what its gotta do.
If you don't like it, then you shouldn't have brought it in the first place.
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Because TFT screens are as "pretty" as Amoleds, but they don't kill the battery like Amoleds either...

edgeicator said:
Did you even read the article you posted?
You get a higher resolution and better battery life and better whites, compared to LCD displays, at the cost of blurrier text, grainier images, and poor yellow and green reproduction.
And it may give better battery life compared to normal LCDs that don't use pentile since it has fewer sub-pixels to drive, but it doesn't give the same battery savings that are possible from OLED displays as those completely shut off any black pixels for both battery saving and for true blacks. OLEDs also have better whites compared to LCDs due to the nature of the technology.
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I don't even need to read the article to know how these screens act. From my personal experience, TFT screens give waaay better battery life than Amoled or even SLCD.
I've owned 4 different TFT phones. 2 Amoleds, 2 Super Amoleds, and 1 SLCD.
Take a non-TFT phone on a dominant white background website like Engaget for a while, and see how fast it drains on white backgrounds. Even with Google, I had to switch up to something as simple as Blackle instead.
No double Amoleds screens are "Eye-Candy", but they are like Gremlins where you have to keep them away from the light.
TFTs may look plainer and grainy, but you don't have change your browsing habits because of them either to save battery...

stratax said:
Im pretty annoyed of all the people nit-picking about our displays, and how its grainy, etc. (The whole pen-tile thing). I was searching up on it and it is actually an advantage! it gives us better battery life, images are sharper than normal, and are brighter than normal while not using more battery, so you dont have to dim it to save battery (which i hated with normal displays).
anyone who is going to complain about it read this.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/05/2...x2-and-its-qhd-display-pentile-at-its-finest/
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I would not call it nit-picking, people are stating facts ... In your link above you have decided to take the article as a positive article, but some of the people would take it as a negative because they can resolve the pixels (good vision maybe) and can not put up with any artifacts or imperfections ...
My story is that i bought the atrix at its full price but i could not put up with the screen (everything else was ok like battery, gps ... another annoyance was the inability to type in macedonian language ... and yes i've checked the market for keyboards and stuff, no video calls because of the unknown status with gingerbread) so i have decided to replace it with Inspire which had better screen (at least to me) but terrible gps, battery life and the same problem with languages ... At the end i've purchased iPhone 4 and all of the features that i wanted to have are available ...
My criteria:
1. Good screen (accurate) /i do not care how many cores the phone has, if the screen is not good then the phone is not good too/
2. Language (keyboard) / Video call (phone to PC with skype or google talk)
This is how i see the things ... Different people have different priorities when they want to purchase phones, electronics ...
When so many people say that the atrix screen is grainy ... probably it is ... some can put up with it, some can not ...
Another high level article describing the positives and negatives of a PenTile screen from an expert in that area:
http://www.displaymate.com/Nexus_One_ShootOut.htm
Take care

stratax said:
Im pretty annoyed of all the people nit-picking about our displays, and how its grainy, etc. (The whole pen-tile thing). I was searching up on it and it is actually an advantage! it gives us better battery life, images are sharper than normal, and are brighter than normal while not using more battery, so you dont have to dim it to save battery (which i hated with normal displays).
anyone who is going to complain about it read this.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/05/2...x2-and-its-qhd-display-pentile-at-its-finest/
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TF vs Thrive comparison with pics...

So I've had the chance to play with the Thrive for a day and here are my initial impressions.
Thickness:
Compared to the TF the Thrive is not that much thicker. (see pics) And although it's slightly heavier the TF the Thrive feels a lot easier to hold. I think it has to do with weight distribution of the devices. The TF feels like a lot of it's weight is towards the center where the Thrive feels like it's more evenly distributed throught the tab. Also the Thrive's corners is rounder then the TF which makes holding the Thrive on the corners a lot easier then when holding the TF in the same position.
Screen:
The Thrive has absolutely zero screen bleed. With that said it is not a IPS display, the whites on the screen looks yellowish compared to the TF and the blacks are deeper on the TF which also has better contrast. The TF display is better then the Toshiba (not by much) but you also have to deal with the light bleed that every TF has.
Build Quality:
We all know about the issues with the TF. The Thrive has the plastic backing which is quite nice to hold and there is no creaking. However there are a few issues...the cover that houses the usb, mini usb, and hdmi ports seems really flimsy and easy to snap off. Also I'm already noticing that the screen in the upper corner is lifting upwards above the plastic backing...similar to what the galaxy tab 10.1 is having. I also had the sleep of death happen to me twice already on the Thrive where on the TF I have yet to experience it. (My TF is rooted though on prime1.5)
So far I'm pretty impressed with the Thrive...it plays my music and videos easily from the usb and the sd card. I can also open up my files directly from the sd card where I had to move my files from the micro sd onto the internal for my TF to read them. However the screen popping up is bothering me...i can push it back down and it will stay for a bit but then it'll just pop right back up. As for which one is better I cannot say. They both are great and offer different options. They both have their strengths and weaknesses over one another. I can tell you that you won't be disappointed with either device.
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tq745 said:
but you also have to deal with the light bleed that every TF has.
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my B50 has zero light bleed so dont generalize, the constant whiney *****ing is getting old.

Jesus your TF has some serious bleed. I have like 2 tiny spots barely noticable unless in a dim room looking at a black screen. And yes i run at full brightness.
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I don't understand why people get so defensive about their purchases ... besides, I didn't think OP was whining.
Anyway, thanks for the review. That sucks about the screen. I was hoping the Thrive would exhibit better build quality than the TF, but I guess that's too much to ask for this first crop of HC tablets.

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my B50 has zero light bleed so dont generalize, the constant whiney *****ing is getting old.
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its so funny how people get so defensive about their products...lol. at no point was i whining. my whole review was subjective. Take it how you like...i don't give a ****. i'm just trying to help those who are on the fence about jumping ship or not.
zero light bleed? please share...because it is known that IPS tech has light bleed. even my g2x has light bleed.

dfin13 said:
I don't understand why people get so defensive about their purchases ... besides, I didn't think OP was whining.
Anyway, thanks for the review. That sucks about the screen. I was hoping the Thrive would exhibit better build quality than the TF, but I guess that's too much to ask for this first crop of HC tablets.
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yeah the screen popping up is starting to get annoying. and the sleep of death also. yeah no matter what tab we go with there will be some issues.

To me, the Thrive looks extremely thick compared to the TF. But yeah, I've heard it's very nice to hold. Don't really like the looks of the Thrive either but that's pretty subjective. But the ports on the Thrive win me over on this one. It's such a pain to connect my dock just so I can transfer a movie off a USB device then disconnect everything to watch again... oh I'm lazy...
Also, am I the only one who thought the light bleed was a cool feature when I first got my tablet? Seriously, I had no clue it was a bad thing until I came onto these forums and heard all the complaining. I love the subtle light bleed on mine... maybe there's something wrong with me...

i still think the xformer is a better device even tho we have to deal with bleeding

Sorry to say but your views on the thickness are way off. Even your pics show that the Thrive is WAY thicker. The "Sharper" Rounded corners on the TF make for better handling as well. If they get TOO rounded it makes for a more slippery experience.
The Thrive looks stupid with the silver camera thingy though. If they would have blended that in it would have looked 100 times better. IMHO that is.
To the person that is whining about hearing about the TF light bleed.....TOUGH because it is true.

zero light bleed on my TF..maybe just me being lucky....... and the Thrive is way too thick...
tbh..the main reason that I'm keepin the TF is because its kb dock... all other factors like weight, screen are important but not a deal breaker

771 gr is too heavy

Well, for a non Ips screen the Thrive looks OK. The light bleed on the TF is awful, that would have been returned if it were mine.
Thanks to the OP for the comparison.

holy hemorrhaging batman! call an ambulance, that thing's gonna bleed to death.

tq745, thanks for a great comparison report, meter clicked
To me the Thrive seems to be built to operate in portrait mode. Look at the orientation of the control buttons, they are correct in portrait mode and sideways in landscape mode. To me it seems like a BIG phone... LOL
I don't get the hostility from members that don't have light bleed on their units, I know I would be happy not angry. I'm gonna start a poll and see actually what kind of percentage of members have light bleed...

I also have massive bleeds on my transformer, and the battery drains way to fast

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tq745, thanks for a great comparison report, meter clicked
To me the Thrive seems to be built to operate in portrait mode. Look at the orientation of the control buttons, they are correct in portrait mode and sideways in landscape mode. To me it seems like a BIG phone... LOL
I don't get the hostility from members that don't have light bleed on their units, I know I would be happy not angry. I'm gonna start a poll and see actually what kind of percentage of members have light bleed...
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I seen that the other day. It reminds me of the picture on the Internet with the guy talking on a HUGE iphone next to his face. Portrait mode looks funny to me and I hate playing this way. This where I liked the ipad because landscape gave you a little extra room but portrait was also usable. 16x9 is meh for me. I'd wish they'd stay 4:3.
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My TF has no light bleed. I do acknowledge that some of them do, but why are people assuming that just because theirs has it that all of them do? It's an ignorant assumption and it leads people to false beliefs.
The reason people on this forum think the TF is so flawed is because a handful of members complained about the same thing then people read their complaints and rather than testing the device for themselves just "assumed" their TF had defects also. I'm willing to gamble that most of the people here complaining about light bleed don't even know what it is. I'm also willing to bet that those very same people don't even know what an IPS screen is or how it functions...
Let's stop making generalizations and stop trying to make the TF out to be a low quality/budget device because it's far from it. Get a grip.

Anyone else experiencing screen color temperature variation between devices?

Just got my 1st replacement Nexus in the mail-the first one was exhibiting symptoms of a non-responsive touchscreen after heavy gaming or when exposed to sunlight. The replacement unit is almost flawless, except for one glaring flaw...the white balance on the screen is WAY off! Whites are tinted beige, and the screen looks extremely washed out and warm compared to my first one. Here's a side by side picture (not the best photo, difference is more pronounced to the naked eye).
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I'm tempted to send this one back, but I don't have the time to get stuck in a RMA loop, especially as I'll be travelling this month. What do you guys reckon-should I just keep this device with it's flawed WB, return for a replacement and hope for the best, or return for a refund?
Alternatively, is there any way I can dial out some of the warmness using software? I know there is a color tuning/calibration utility that is included with CM for my Galaxy S-anything similar exist for the N7?

I had the same issue as welll. My recent replacement has better whites bit the screen is still displaying a pinkish tint. My old nexus 7 had a yellowish tint as well. I wonder what the screen temperature is actually supposed to be :\

To the OP you are correct I've started two threads already about the color correction slash grey scale issues. Most agree that Google will not be doing anything about it. Just plain luck or bad luck. Both of those are not bad mine is just in between I would say.
I have linked to this video before http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD8n7xaPBMo the way cool blue tint on the unit shown would be grounds for return IMO. Whites need to be white, not yellow warm or cool blue. Just try and do a side by side with an iPad 3 if you can live with the offness then do so, its a lottery at this point.
I started two threads because so many people have said this is an issues, but it varies so much and is so subjective that its doubtful Google will do anything. I prefer the one to the right just because a little cool blue is way better than warm yellow but the New one on the left looks more accurate.
Hows the Backlight bleed?
A good simple test is I go to T-Mobile.com or Engadget their Magenta Pink and Engadget's sky blue are hard to get right. But then again that opens up a new can of worms about your color Gamut and Hue which I am sure also vary device to device. Its obvious by now this is a QC step Google did not require ASUS to perform. Most likely to improve production yields.

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To the OP you are correct I've started two threads already about the color correction slash grey scale issues. Most agree that Google will not be doing anything about it. Just plain luck or bad luck. Both of those are not bad mine is just in between I would say.
I have linked to this video before http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD8n7xaPBMo the way cool blue tint on the unit shown would be grounds for return IMO. Whites need to be white, not yellow warm or cool blue. Just try and do a side by side with an iPad 3 if you can live with the offness then do so, its a lottery at this point.
I started two threads because so many people have said this is an issues, but it varies so much and is so subjective that its doubtful Google will do anything. I prefer the one to the right just because a little cool blue is way better than warm yellow but the New one on the left looks more accurate.
Hows the Backlight bleed?
A good simple test is I go to T-Mobile.com or Engadget their Magenta Pink and Engadget's sky blue are hard to get right. But then again that opens up a new can of worms about your color Gamut and Hue which I am sure also vary device to device. Its obvious by now this is a QC step Google did not require ASUS to perform. Most likely to improve production yields.
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Thanks for the informative reply. It's really unfortunate that Asus has dropped the ball so badly with consistency-I can understand lowering some standards for a $200 device to increase production yields, but they've seemingly neglected numerous aspects as evidenced by all the problems the community is having.
As for the new vs old one, the photo is not the best representation-the old device has perfect whites, completely neutral-no tinge of blue at all. Colors gamut is also pretty accurate on the old one. The new one is visibly worse-not only is the white balance off (whites appear beige), but colors are over-saturated and blown out-I noticed a loss of detail immediately just by looking at my wallpaper. Flesh tones are especially bad-much more red than they should be. I even had my roommate do a blind test between the new and old, and he immediately noted that the old device had a "sharper, crisper" screen.
As far as backlight bleed, it's not too bad on both Nexus's (Nexii?). The new one has a bit of bleed in the lower left corner, but it isn't very noticeable and is the least of my concerns at this point. I'm just not sure if it's worth entering the lottery again to see if I can get a better device based on all the horror stories I've been reading here...
Are you aware of any calibration/color tuning utility for the N7? Devs should look into integrating a utility into their ROMs. Something like this:

m3ta1head said:
Thanks for the informative reply. It's really unfortunate that Asus has dropped the ball so badly with consistency-I can understand lowering some standards for a $200 device to increase production yields, but they've seemingly neglected numerous aspects as evidenced by all the problems the community is having.
As for the new vs old one, the photo is not the best representation-the old device has perfect whites, completely neutral-no tinge of blue at all. Colors gamut is also pretty accurate on the old one. The new one is visibly worse-not only is the white balance off (whites appear beige), but colors are over-saturated and blown out-I noticed a loss of detail immediately just by looking at my wallpaper. Flesh tones are especially bad-much more red than they should be. I even had my roommate do a blind test between the new and old, and he immediately noted that the old device had a "sharper, crisper" screen.
As far as backlight bleed, it's not too bad on both Nexus's (Nexii?). The new one has a bit of bleed in the lower left corner, but it isn't very noticeable and is the least of my concerns at this point. I'm just not sure if it's worth entering the lottery again to see if I can get a better device based on all the horror stories I've been reading here...
Are you aware of any calibration/color tuning utility for the N7? Devs should look into integrating a utility into their ROMs. Something like this:
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Sounds like they are messing with what would be called on HDTV's the Sharpness setting.Its gonna take a subpoena to find out what Google and ASUS knew about the color temperature slash calibration or lack their of, and when they knew it. I smell class action down the road. No way its just not right so many units coming out so differently.

Not only color, but I've noticed noticeable differences in brightness between the 3 I've gotten for RMAs. This new one gets darker and brighter than the previous one.
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Mine is pretty much spot on, Except for Blue Links tend to be on the purple side of Blue, enough to start a few threads and ask some questions but definitely not warrant a return.
One thing I have its noticed is that its nice bright and vibrant not at all "washed out" as other have reported. But When I go into Display Brightness, (never Auto brightness) when I move the slider I have like 8 or more different levels of Low brightness below the the Halfway Mark so I can really pick to my licking how low I want the brightness, even on the lowest it maybe too bright for reading a book in a dark room.
But above the halfway mark of brightness I only get about 4 or 5 Steps Up to Max brightness, The last inch or more on the slider toward MAx brightness does nothing. So in essence I reach Max brightness well before the slider is maxed out.

IceColdKila said:
Mine is pretty much spot on, Except for Blue Links tend to be on the purple side of Blue, enough to start a few threads and ask some questions but definitely not warrant a return.
One thing I have its noticed is that its nice bright and vibrant not at all "washed out" as other have reported. But When I go into Display Brightness, (never Auto brightness) when I move the slider I have like 8 or more different levels of Low brightness below the the Halfway Mark so I can really pick to my licking how low I want the brightness, even on the lowest it maybe too bright for reading a book in a dark room.
But above the halfway mark of brightness I only get about 4 or 5 Steps Up to Max brightness, The last inch or more on the slider toward MAx brightness does nothing. So in essence I reach Max brightness well before the slider is maxed out.
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That is very strange indeed. My brightness slider doesn't exhibit this-it is linear throughout it's range and the lowest brightness setting is quite dim, perfect for reading at night.

XDA developer Supercurio has an app called screen tuning for the Samsung 10.1 that I loved that changed the white temperature, which I believe is the issue. I think an app like this would help significantly.
Its also been said that the nvidia chip settings causes screen wash out after videos or heavy gaming. Its a battery saving measure while watching video or gaming but persists afterwards when it shouldn't. There's an app around here for that. Nut I'm after a color correction.

Kayak83 said:
XDA developer Supercurio has an app called screen tuning for the Samsung 10.1 that I loved that changed the white temperature, which I believe is the issue. I think an app like this would help significantly.
Its also been said that the nvidia chip settings causes screen wash out after videos or heavy gaming. Its a battery saving measure while watching video or gaming but persists afterwards when it shouldn't. There's an app around here for that. Nut I'm after a color correction.
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The screen tuning app can only be used with AMOLED screens, which the Nexus 7 doesn't have.

How is THAT screen?

I created this thread specifically for all the members to talk about the new 2k screen of the LG G3. The screen is the most important feature of the LG G3 and it is what LG brags about the most. For many of us including me, the screen will be the deciding factor of whether we buy the phone or not.How does the new 2k display panel perform in real life situations compared to other high end phone display panels like the Galaxy S5 or HTC One M8? Let's have a nice dedicated thread to the most important feature on this phone.
Ideas to talk about:
•Contrast levels
•How your content looks on it
•Your thoughts of it compared to the previous display you had.
•Any weird issues? (Screen interlacing, ghost issues)
•Color production
•Do you find it nice and worthwhile?
•How are those BLACK LEVELS (Important!)
•Any heat issues with the screen?
•Good high and low brightness levels?

All of the above... Thinking of upgrading from a nexus 5...
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I have seen a couple of reviews that say the max brightness is quite dim. Can someone who owns one confirm if this is true?
The G2 has the best display I have ever had and I don't want to downgrade to a duller screen (I am not bothered about the high res as the G2 has enough res. I want bright and vibrant!

Spewy1 said:
I have seen a couple of reviews that say the max brightness is quite dim. Can someone who owns one confirm if this is true?
The G2 has the best display I have ever had and I don't want to downgrade to a duller screen (I am not bothered about the high res as the G2 has enough res. I want bright and vibrant!
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Go to s5 ^^ it's too bright and too vibrant :laugh: (^^)

And ffs please, reviewers, don't simply declare that you can't distinguish individual pixels on 1080p as well as 2k and then conclude from that that the extra resolution doesn't make a difference. The question is: how do you subjectively experience visual items in 2k vs. 1080p--images, text, UI items, etc.. Past 325 dpi, a pixel is not an item, so it's irrelevant that you can't see one. Tons of those online reviews provide what the reviewer thinks their impression of the screen must be instead of the reviewer providing their true impression.

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Go to s5 ^^ it's too bright and too vibrant :laugh: (^^)
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I don't like the s5. Various reasons but mainly the cover over the charging port and overall design.
I love my g2 but need more memory (64gb minimum). I am worried about the screen on the g3 but the reviewers all focus on the resolution but I want to hear from real users about the real world experience of the screen.
Many thanks in advance for any input from owners of the phone.

Great Arstechica review as usual
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/06/lg-g3-review-a-great-phone-with-way-too-many-pixels/

That cover on the S5 (my wife has one), is for water proofing and easily ripped off.
Personally, I could use a screen with less pixels and longer screen-on time. I consider the screen resolution to be a minus. My preference is less pixels and make it a 6", like the HTC One Max I just returned after a week.

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Great Arstechica review as usual
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/06/lg-g3-review-a-great-phone-with-way-too-many-pixels/
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Can't agree with you there. They did the same move as all the other reviewers where they presume that the inability to distinguish individual pixels automatically means people can't see any overall difference in image quality:
Even at point-blank range, it's hard to resolve a single pixel. 1080p screens are also beautiful, though, and when looking at the two, side-by-side, we aren't convinced the jump to 1440p is necessary. More pixels only matter if you can see them, and on a ~5-inch device, it's almost impossible to tell the difference between a 1080p screen and the 1440p screen of the G3.
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That's why I asked above that any reviewers here avoid that particular groupthink and tell us how they actually experience 2k vs. 1080p.

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Can't agree with you there. They did the same move as all the other reviewers where they presume that the inability to distinguish individual pixels automatically means people can't see any overall difference in image quality:
That's why I asked above that any reviewers here avoid that particular groupthink and tell us how they actually experience 2k vs. 1080p.
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I think the most important caveat is that hardly any apps will be optimized for 2k display when the phone finally arrives.
HAving said that, kind of hard to judge don't you think?

Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that

hamad138 said:
Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that
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How can you?

theraker007 said:
I think the most important caveat is that hardly any apps will be optimized for 2k display when the phone finally arrives.
HAving said that, kind of hard to judge don't you think?
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That's logical. But so is the idea that the human eye can't distinguish pixels at a density greater than 326dpi. So, yeah, it comes down to subjective judgment calls. In that case, I'm interested in the subjective point of view of people who actually have one of these devices and their actual experience. We already know how do deduce logically what everyone's experience must be, and all the reviews I've read only do that. Images and text may appear sharper at a given distance from the eye in a way unrelated to whether or not you can distinguish an individual pixel.

The LG G3 has the best smartphone display I've seen: It's sharp, but it's also bright and has great color. The colors don't pop quite as much as on some of the better SuperAMOLED screens I've seen (such as on the just-announced Samsung Galaxy Tab S), but the sharpness is off the charts.
Comparing the G3's display to the one on the HTC One M8 (my current favorite Android phone), I felt the LG's was just as sharp, and a few details — such as drop shadows in Evernote — stood out slightly more. And even though colors weren't as vivid as on the HTC, the G3 had more natural skin tones
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From Mashable's review. Everyone's eyes are different I guess.
Contrast was superb. Black text on white background — one of the most essential things a smartphone, or any display, needs to get right — really stood out. The ultra-sharp characters nearly jumped off the screen, and I couldn't discern individual pixels, no matter how close I put my eye to the screen.
So the LG G3's Quad HD display is more than just hype. But only a bit. There's nothing wrong with the HTC One M8's screen — or the Samsung Galaxy S5's or the iPhone 5S's for that matter. They're still mighty sharp, and can display great images, just not quite as sharply or as impressively as the LG G3.
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Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that
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I truly hope that the screen is great on this phone but I can't wait any longer and have just ordered an S5. I have waited for all the flagships to come out this year and was truly hoping that the G3 would be the one. Two of the most important things to me are brightness and battery life and I'm worried that with the G3 I would end up having the brightness cranked all the time and would have poor battery life as a result. Really wanted to try LG this time but lost my nerve
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hamad138 said:
Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that
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Seriously? Those are much more important then resolution to improve upon.

helikido said:
Seriously? Those are much more important then resolution to improve upon.
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yes but not for marketing.

I'm most concerned with the viewing angles, black levels, contrast, and color accuracy. I'm definitely getting the G3 but I really don't want to have to play the panel lottery. I'd prefer a warmer display over a cooler display - as long as it's not noticeably pink/green/blue, I'm fine. A slight yellow/orange tint is okay, but obviously a calibrated display would be the best. My black Nexus 5's viewing angles aren't great, with the screen washing out at 30+ degree angle. My buddy's white Nexus 5 seems to have better viewing angles, so I'm not sure what the deal is. I'm pretty confident in LG's ability to produce good displays -- they pretty much made this phone just to show off their new display.

Actually, I'm now concerned about the narrowness of the bezel. Yes, it's a cool feature, and everyone dreams of a bezel-less phone, but I already have problems due to the narrowness of my S4's bezel. When I'm holding my phone for an extended time, referring to notes while speaking to people, my grip often gets interpreted by the system as a touch and hold. That pops up a dialog that I have to dismiss, and it's really obtrusive in real time situations. Sure, I could be more careful, but it's just too easy to make that problem happen during normal usage. It's not like I have big fat hands or a weird grip or anything. I've already been thinking that when we finally get bezel-free phones, there will have to be utilities to create a non-reactive border of pixels in a user-specified width, or else the user will accidentally be popping things up all over the place. At present, though, I think the G3's large size and tiny bezel are actually going to make it difficult to use the way I want to use it even though it's hardly bigger than my S4. You never know until you actually use it for a few days and try to adapt, but there's no way to do that without buying it, which I'm now hesitant to do.

You're holding it wrong ☺
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