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Title says it all. Already posted in the X10 forum, thought it was more relevant here! See article for more information.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/03/29...-xperia-range/
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I was just about to post this myself
Article from engadget
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excellent news, especially for me since i decided to cancel my contract pre order and just get the play sim free
I have always dabbed into the root. My N1 was fantastic rooted and running CM. No need to now its on gingerbread.
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I'm not getting a sim lock free play, hopefully the simlocked devices will be rooted soon to.
I was going to wait for the o2 version in white but glad I just ordered off play.com
Excellent news. Wish more manufacturers would follow suit. Next time my contracts up , I'll seriously consider SE now if they are going to continue with this.
Im used to the freedom with my n1. Its brilliant when you can do anything with your phone.
Any word if the US bound one (for Verizon) will have locked bootloader?
My guess is yes, but I really don't want to be right in this case...
Waitin for the CDMA version
The CDMA bootloader unlock is finished, check the Development section.
I was just wondering how many developers are using an Arc? (with developers i mean rom cookers)
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Ditto on this one, anything that springs to mind for future projects
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I was more wondering what happens if we have root, ublocked bootloader. i am sure the arc has more horse power than what it has now. Maybe it's tme to learn how to build roms, i'm a Linux user so it doesn't have to be hard .
It would be great to see cyanogenmod on the arc or just tweaks to the OEM rom.
Hopefully all the X10 devs + some N1/Desire devs will come here.
All I know is that Paul from modaco is waiting like us the ''password'' to unlock his Play, knowing it's the same File System and protections he will produce exellent roms for us.
CM7 and MIUI will surelly be adapted.
I don't think the scenario of X10 will be repeated, many devs were willing to work on custom roms but the phone was locked for a several months so they abandoned and swaped their x10.
As for the ARC it all depends on SE, sooner they release the keys and better are the chances to get many roms, the more they wait and the less devs will support the Arc ...
It will be great to see great roms on the ARC like CM7 and MIUI. so all we have to do is wait on the unlocked bootloader. hope to see it get released soon
For exemple, HTC just unveiled the Sensation with the new high resolution screen, if it gets rooted before the Arc then I will swap my Arc with one of them
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For exemple, HTC just unveiled the Sensation with the new high resolution screen, if it gets rooted before the Arc then I will swap my Arc with one of them
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I think the bootloader will be locked, thats what it looks like. i just read tweets from paul about bootloader
here:
http://twitter.com/#!/PaulOBrien/status/57835519924637696
http://twitter.com/#!/PaulOBrien/status/57835680818147328
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http://twitter.com/#!/PaulOBrien/status/57835930786074624
So finally the Arc will be a great device for custom roms!
The hundreds of devs coming from HTC will preffer the build quality of the Arc over the cheapos LG and samsung
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So finally the Arc will be a great device for custom roms!
The hundreds of devs coming from HTC will preffer the build quality of the Arc over the cheapos LG and samsung
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That would be great though there a lot devs with LG2X i had to choose between SE and LG but then i thought nice thing but it's LG
now HTC is locking everything devs would look at other phones. the Arc, Play and Neo are similar so i think if one has a custom rom porting it to another wouldn't be that hard
All im interested in atm is rooting
So does anyone have any idea of when we will get it rooted?
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On the SE dev blog they said it will be ''later in spring''.
So if they want to keep their promise they have till 20th June max
I think I can smell it toward end May don't ask me why
vegetaleb said:
On the SE dev blog they said it will be ''later in spring''.
So if they want to keep their promise they have till 20th June max
I think I can smell it toward end May don't ask me why
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No no, June is summer...end of May, TOPS!
I hope this time they will keep their promise and no postpone at all!
How many time they postponed release of phones,FW updates...?
But here if they want SE Arc to be a success even among dual core phones they should release the root before SGS2 enter the market because this one will be rooted in 24h
That´s true! Sony Ericsson MUST do this! Does the unlocked bootloader means root?
No but unlocking the bootloader means we can use fastboot command, any good dev can then build a root method in a couple of minutes or hours.
If Amon Ra and clockwork recoveries are implemented it's even better,we can then backup,wipe,format partitions to ext 2-3-4...on the phone itself exactly like on nexus one and desire
Custom Kernels will follow too,increasing battery life or overcloacking the cpu...
This dev section will have tons of roms to chose from
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This dev section will have tons of roms to chose from
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I had sworn never to install a custom ROM ever again since I really need my phone for my business and I messed up my Xperia X1 several times...
But reading this... Tempting... Must... Stay... away...
AArrrrgghhhhhh!!!!!!
well you say it ^^
since they released unlock today.. D
so .. i hope now everyone startet git & eclipse (or whatelse ^^) & is working on root & roms
Mooozer said:
well you say it ^^
since they released unlock today.. D
so .. i hope now everyone startet git & eclipse (or whatelse ^^) & is working on root & roms
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Hope so, want to see root and CM7
Anyone who can tweet Paul O Brien must do it right now
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Anyone who can tweet Paul O Brien must do it right now
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He also unlocked his xperia play, soon soon we will have root, roms, kernels haha
does anyone know if the xperia arc kernel has been released?
I just had some bad news : requesting open bootloader for X10
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@hagisbasheruk There are no plans for that as of now.
So what do you say, do we get unlocked bootloader ?
No UNLOCKED bootloader as of now, doesn't rule out a future unlock though so mabey we need a new petition started to get this feature for our great developers on here.
Bear in mind that there will be no special sony erricson features on the 2.3.3 they are dropping all that. So my feeling says it might be unlocked.
Also I emailed sony netherlands a week a go with the same question about the bootloader of 2.3.3. They said 2.1 was the final version. I think they only know how to random press the keyboard and hit enter.
Yeah, half of these places you contact have no idea. In fact sometimes we probably know more than them!
Don't put your hope into this, one the GB update hasn't released yet, not everyone in the company knows about it (yet).
SE already stated that the bootloader will not be unlockable for the X10 due to contracts and legal obligations already in place with 3rd party vendors.
even if you [SE] unlock the bootloader after the 2.3, then the bootloader can be unlocked for 1.6 and 2.1 devices leaving 3rd party apps (at&t bloatware, moxier, etc) vulnerable.
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SE already stated that the bootloader will not be unlockable for the X10 due to contracts and legal obligations already in place with 3rd party vendors.
even if you [SE] unlock the bootloader after the 2.3, then the bootloader can be unlocked for 1.6 and 2.1 devices leaving 3rd party apps (at&t bloatware, moxier, etc) vulnerable.
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Yes just like we won't get a 2.3 update. They announced 2.3 after the bootloader unlocking program. So im sure we get unlocked.
PlayGunsta said:
Yes just like we won't get a 2.3 update. They announced 2.3 after the bootloader unlocking program. So im sure we get unlocked.
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uh, read SE's blog, it's listed specifically. all new devices will get bootloaders unlocked. X10, x10 mini, x8, etc, will not due to existing contracts in place and legal obligations.
they are going to update to 2.3 due to google's recent news release about pushing manufacturers to continue development on existing devices and stopping them from abondoning the user base.
so yes, SE previously stated that GB wouldn't come to the X10, but google is pushing manufactures to continue updates when possible on devices.
it has nothing to do with sony's abilities, but rather their obligations.
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uh, read SE's blog, it's listed specifically. all new devices will get bootloaders unlocked. X10, x10 mini, x8, etc, will not due to existing contracts in place and legal obligations.
they are going to update to 2.3 due to google's recent news release about pushing manufacturers to continue development on existing devices and stopping them from abondoning the user base.
so yes, SE previously stated that GB wouldn't come to the X10, but google is pushing manufactures to continue updates when possible on devices.
it has nothing to do with sony's abilities, but rather their obligations.
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So what, they can surprise us just like always.
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uh, read SE's blog, it's listed specifically. all new devices will get bootloaders unlocked. X10, x10 mini, x8, etc, will not due to existing contracts in place and legal obligations.
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It may not be true but don't you think this is the reason why only the Generic unlocked X10s are getting the update. There are no plans to update carrier locked X10s..
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So what, they can surprise us just like always.
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not legally, which means unlikely.
The bootloader has been bypassed anyway, why does this even matter?
Because it's way better then just having it bypassed.
Do you actually believe that Sony Ericsson will give you info about something that they not have made official yet? You can ask them anything and they will give you a similarly answer. You will see that the bootloader will be unlocked.
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It may not be true but don't you think this is the reason why only the Generic unlocked X10s are getting the update. There are no plans to update carrier locked X10s..
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Thats not true. The Swedish phonecompanys 3, Telia and Telenor will be able to update their branded 2.1 to 2.3.3.
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Thats not true. The Swedish phonecompanys 3, Telia and Telenor will be able to update their branded 2.1 to 2.3.3.
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Thats true but you must take in that Swedish companies/ carrier is not as the companies / carriers in the states and we have only asked the custom service on those carrier so nothing is for shore yet.
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I think we need proof.
First there wouldnt be 2.1. Now there is.
First there wouldnt be 2.3, there will be.
That are the only facts where you can resource your data out.
Several attempts of me trying to get a clear awnser from SE failed. They allways tell you something else.
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Because it's way better then just having it bypassed.
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Oh really, why exactly is it better?
The reason we wanted the bootloader cracked was to custom kernels, this is possible through bypass.
If the bootloader was cracked/open, we'd have the exact same kernels with the exact same progress/bugs as we do now. I fail to see the benefit, but I might be missing something.
If anything, bypass is better, as if something goes REALLY wrong then you can still revert back to stock quite easily.
To me it smacks of just wanting to say that it's been cracked as some sort of nerd "status" symbol, although if anyone can prove otherwise then fair enough
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Thats true but you must take in that Swedish companies/ carrier is not as the companies / carriers in the states and we have only asked the custom service on those carrier so nothing is for shore yet.
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I asked them both. (In this case, Telenor and SE. Sorry about cut n paste)
So we've have some devs recently that have either announced that they are stopping/slowing down support or have gone entirely... Anyone feel like this is the beginning of the end for our beloved X10?
This is the list so far:
1. Zdzihu (has slowed down support for his roms and haven't seen any activity from him in over 2 weeks)
2. Cobrato (has stopped development on his MIUI rom)
3. TripNraver (Has also stopped development on all his roms due to personal reasons)
4. Achotjan (has announced that he will be slowing down support as he will be/is a student)
5. Jerpelea (havent seen anything from him in awhile (or is he a part of the freeXperia team?)
*EDIT* Heard that he changed his name to FXP and is still very much active!
6. Rdannar (gone because his phone is broke)
7. Z!GZA!G (new and promising dev but phone broke as well )
We still have very active support from Wolfbreak, nasif619, spaarc and Erickwill in terms of roms and also from Doomlord, Thjap and Azuzu for their kernels and tweaks as well as some releases from other newcomers but I cant help but feel like we're in a bit of trouble...
Anybody else that I'm missing or didn't give credit to? let me know and I'll update the list.. Maybe we can come up with some way to get some devs back on out device or have more development going
unfortunately this is the circle of life.
Support goes to the new generation of devices.Just get over it.
We have more than we imagined when we bought x10.
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So we've have some devs recently that have either announced that they are stopping/slowing down support or have gone entirely... Anyone feel like this is the beginning of the end for our beloved X10?
This is the list so far:
1. Zdzihu (has slowed down support for his roms and haven't seen any activity from him in over 2 weeks)
2. Cobrato (has stopped development on his MIUI rom)
3. TripNraver (Has also stopped development on all his roms due to personal reasons)
4. Achotjan (has announced that he will be slowing down support as he will be/is a student)
5. Jp (havent seen anything from him in awhile (or is he a part of the freeXperia team?)
6. Rdannar (gone because his phone is broke)
7. Z!GZA!G (new and promising dev but phone broke as well )
We still have very active support from Wolfbreak, and Erickwill in terms of roms and also from Doomlord, Thjap and Azuzu for their kernels and tweaks as well as some releases from other newcomers but I cant help but feel like we're in a bit of trouble...
Anybody else that I'm missing or didn't give credit to? let me know and I'll update the list.. Maybe we can come up with some way to get some devs back on out device or have more development going
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1. Z is around, don't worry. Hopefully he's busy with providing a bootloader unlock (just dreamin' ) He never posted that much, just compare his post count with what he achieved for our x10. He's not someone who just talks and promises a lot, but when he's posting you can be almost sure that it's either a fix or a major breakthrough that is already prepared for public release
2. Cobrato said he won't continue developing MIUI ROMs because it's a lot of worked without sources (MIUI sources are not released to public). As far as I know he didn't say, he doesn't develop anymore. So let's see what'll come from him
3. Trip left xda by his own choice. If he also stopped dev'ing on modaco, that's sad, but personal reasons are more important than development. Btw. wasn't he planning to dev for the Sensation? Didn't see a single ROM from him there.
4. Achotjan slows own, right. That doesn't mean he's gone.
5. Jp - are you talking about Jerpelea? If so you must be kidding. He's the heart of the FreeXperia team, developing for all Xperia phones atm (X10/mini/pro, Arc, Play, mini/pro from 2011, ...). Recently he changed his name to FXP (FreeXPeria?) so don't get confused.
6. rdannar & Z!GZA!G: didn't know that. It's really a pitty. I hope they'll be back with new or repaired phones
Good to know that Z and FXP are still doing their thing! I'm a bit of a flashaholic so I get real sad when I dont see updates for a couple days... but you're right... it is the cycle of life and it will happen sooner or later.
Hopefully if bootloader gets unlocked, it will bring back a lot of dev activity
I doubt there is enough interest to unlock the bootloader now.
oddly enough we're at a weird point right now....
older phones are so old they are losing dev support, and also there are so many good newer phones that are so new causing them to have little dev support lol
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I doubt there is enough interest to unlock the bootloader now.
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that's exactly what I was thinking. And without a unlocked bootloader, there isn't much more the devs can do now anyways.
don't forget about doomlord!
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ballubas said:
don't forget about doomlord!
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DooMLoRD is hyper-active and replies to all questions and requests daily.
He is also one of the best devs we have on the Xperia scene.
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DooMLoRD is hyper-active and replies to all questions and requests daily.
He is also one of the best devs we have on the Xperia scene.
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OO yeah!!
+1
Well devs are humans they have other things to do..
I feel that we already got too much support from developers on our X10 and even though things have naturally slowed down, there is still some notable activity.
And maybe it's time for normal users like us to read and research and make our own progress! Will be fun!
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I really think that the devs have done an amazing job with this phone, such so that I see no incentives in upgrading my phone to a newer model.. However is there really much more they can do? The only two things I see as missing from the software side is lack of a fully unlocked bootloader and the 16 million colour screen! But there's no real need for an unlocked bootloader and the 16 million colours is only going to happen if SE release source codes..
So really I feel that we've been lucky to have such amazing dev support for the last year. They've pushed this phone to its limits and without them what would we do!
All I can say is that they've done a great job and I hope to see some more of their work down the line!
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I really think that the devs have done an amazing job with this phone, such so that I see no incentives in upgrading my phone to a newer model.. However is there really much more they can do? The only two things I see as missing from the software side is lack of a fully unlocked bootloader and the 16 million colour screen! But there's no real need for an unlocked bootloader and the 16 million colours is only going to happen if SE release source codes..
So really I feel that we've been lucky to have such amazing dev support for the last year. They've pushed this phone to its limits and without them what would we do!
All I can say is that they've done a great job and I hope to see some more of their work down the line!
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FAIL!!
Bootloader unlocking is the main part...
I thought they where trying to get the 3x kernel ported to x10 could be wrong but thought they where close to getting it to work
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chiefy009 said:
I thought they where trying to get the 3x kernel ported to x10 could be wrong but thought they where close to getting it to work
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Yes doom also told me abt that!!
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what is 3x kernel?
Yes, I'm afraid. The dev support for this phone is slowly diminishing. It's sad because they have achieved so much with this phone. At the same time, what else is there to do with this phone that hasn't been done already, or that doesn't need an unlocked bootloader. Hopefully Z comes out with some good news about the bootloader soon, that should keep people here a bit longer.
I hope that one or two devs stay till the end, I came in late in the game so I'm stuck with this phone on a contract until March 2013! D:
That being said, I do love this phone. It's not only my first smartphone, but it's my first ever phone. It has a strange sentimental value to me
Just my too sense.
its the kernel from when we got the gingerbread update. the custom kernel we have is based on the older kernel but our devs have fixed so it works on gingerbread
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what is 3x kernel?
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ballubas said:
its the kernel from when we got the gingerbread update. the custom kernel we have is based on the older kernel but our devs have fixed so it works on gingerbread
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U r 100% wrong we got a patched old 2.1 kernel from se to work with 2.3 after gingerbread update they r tring to port a completly new 2.6.3x...
Go to settings and check ur kernel version is 2.6.29...
I think so...
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Hello all. As you might of heard Sony is now branching out to aosp, so customers can have two roms aosp or skinned. Do you think the z1 will get it as Xperia L has got it. Will it work for locked bootloader that i do not know. Give me your thoughts and opinions about thia new aosp suppoet by sony. Is it the best step for there phones?
No, it will not work on Locked bootloader for sure.
And I think they will not support Z1 once this (or even ever start).
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Yeah, we are even still waiting on a bootloader unlock method for the T-Mobile Z1S. The likelihood of that though is slim even.
All i think the kernel needs it to he signed by Sony themselves. Not sure
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_denies_working_on_stock_aosp_roms_for_xperia_devices-news-9818.php
As i said, sony officialy decline to work on something like this.
How about this ?
For now, only for MSM8974 kernel
=)
http://developer.sonymobile.com/2014/10/01/aosp-support-for-xperia-devices/
Read it carefully. They just talk about unique kernel for every phone that have this platform.
No aosp rom, or something else.
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Okay