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*UPDATE*
I have updated my thread in development with a download and guide for installing TouchWiz UX on our Tab 10.1's.
See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15516290#
Okay this is getting ridiculous...!
Currently there is a TouchWiz UX rom avaliable for...
Asus EeePad:
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...ouchwiz-rom-port-on-asus-eee-pad-transformer/
Acer A500:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1143368
Tab 10.1v:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155023
All of which appear to be based off a 3.1 Rom for OUR device... So why is it I can't find a single thing about installing 3.1 TouchWiz UX on OUR 10.1!?
i feel you brother this is crazy no devs i guess on the 10.1 i need to start going to school and learn my self lol
That's okay. I'm pretty meh regarding TouchWiz. Has kept me away from sammy phones. I know, ROMS, but when you lean over the bleeding edge, there are no ROMS.
Just saw this video that shows all the features of touchwiz. I don't care how much people want to know it. If half the stffntheynjust showed works without force closing I'll beeee soooool stoked. It impressed the pants off me. http://youtu.be/hlLP3RXkmUQ
" hang on to your dookie, its about to get spooky "
Yay! Managed to get it booting on my tab.
I've been using it about 15 minutes and I love it! The book reader is great... I love the bounce scrolling and the new colours are very nice. Everything has a better feel and still seems super fast.
I might get some instructions up tomorrow for how I did it. Bed time for me now though.
The thing I want to know is if it has improved video playback.
Sent from my Fascinate with MIUI Gingerbread
I'm looking forward to the Allshare app, official DLNA support, the Media hub, and the mini app tray/bar.
It definitely adds another level to the tablet and will impress many consumers. I haven't actually owned anything Samsung beside cameras but I'm impressed so far with this tablet.
LevitateJay said:
Yay! Managed to get it booting on my tab.
I've been using it about 15 minutes and I love it! The book reader is great... I love the bounce scrolling and the new colours are very nice. Everything has a better feel and still seems super fast.
I might get some instructions up tomorrow for how I did it. Bed time for me now though.
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You did! Hallejulah... I hope a train rattles through your town, and wakes you up prematurely!
Lovellkid
Instruction please? This what I have been waiting for!!
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He' sleeping....or laughing about us now...or both...
Logically the 10.1v rom should not be hard porting, but i havent looked into it.
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Logically the 10.1v rom should not be hard porting, but i havent looked into it.
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oh really? not hard?
without 3.1 kernel source code...
I have a 3G Galaxy Tab 10.1 with Touchwiz (sold in Sweden).
While I don't mind some of the apps that Touchwiz brings I hate their OS-wide changes, while iOS-style overscrolling doesn't really change anything their altering of default UI element does. They have changed buttons, dialogs, menus, fonts and more making many applications look odd as they don't have the same design as Samsungs own apps.
They have also changed they background of the status bar so when it is in "light out" mode it is still very noticeable (default is completely black, Samsung is grey with a light border on top). This is very annoying when watching movies!
All in all I rather be without Touchwiz.
It's only a theme - it'll be customizable at some point
TouchWiz Review/Update
illojal said:
I have a 3G Galaxy Tab 10.1 with Touchwiz (sold in Sweden).
While I don't mind some of the apps that Touchwiz brings I hate their OS-wide changes, while iOS-style overscrolling doesn't really change anything their altering of default UI element does. They have changed buttons, dialogs, menus, fonts and more making many applications look odd as they don't have the same design as Samsungs own apps.
They have also changed they background of the status bar so when it is in "light out" mode it is still very noticeable (default is completely black, Samsung is grey with a light border on top). This is very annoying when watching movies!
All in all I rather be without Touchwiz.
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My only annoyance with TouchWiz UX so for is that it has that gray bar at the bottom rather than black... I get that it fits there theme but black still blends in the the tablet better... We'll be able to change that later though once the rom is deodex..
Aside from that I love all the other changes. Everything just looks more 'styled' and less 'neon' which I love.
Their eBook application is the best app I've ever used on Android.. except maybe Tasker..
Social Hub app is a great Twitter/Facebook integration.
Their widgets are very cool except they seem to slow down the homescreen a tad due to their large size (don't worry! you can always remove them )
The mini apps are so very cool. You can bring up a little calculator/note taking app/calendar/and more and move it to the side of the screen and keep interacting with whatever app you're running under it while it stays on the screen! Awesome feature that Google should definitely look at adding.
Copy and Paste now has a large clipboard that you can build up multiple items on!
There are even problems in Honeycomb 3.1 that are now fixed
e.g. In 3.1 stock if you want to change your lockscreen wallpaper to a custom image from your gallery you had to go to settings> display>screen settings>lockscreen wallpaper now you can do it from the top-right Plus or long-press home screen
The browser is actually smoother and handles pinch gestures much better and has some cool new features you can enable in settings.
There is motion control like tilting your tablet to change homescreens when placing a widget
The quick control toggles are much faster and to get into Settings is now only 2 taps rather than 3.. another thing Honeycomb should have had from the start.
And much more things that I'm missing... This is definitely an upgrade.
I'm uploading a rom now and will update my Thread in development when it's uploaded so everyone can flash TouchWiz UX.
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Logically the 10.1v rom should not be hard porting, but i havent looked into it.
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The 10.1v rom is actually a port of a rom from OUR device... It's a bit silly to port a port from our device back to it...
Update with Download and Guide
Hey I have updated my Development post with a download and guide for flashing TouchWiz to our Tab's... Check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15516290#
Any update on when touchwiz will officially be released for us? I know Samsung set the hard date of "coming soon", but I didn't know if there was any further update.
The screenshot button is useless and gets in the way. If the screenshot app was combined with the note app it would be great. You would pop up the notes and annotate whatever is on the screen and save it all.
why is everything so fricken big? I dont see the reasoning behind all the text being like 90pt font...
i need a little help, i love roms but i dont love some of the layouts and what nots
but ive been strongly looking at miui and it looks really really nice but i wanted another opinion, what rom would you recommend?
and if youre using miui whats the cons? pros??
and if you can screen shot the way you txt? thatd be awesome =]
i went from liberty to stock gb for a list of small reasons
(not to say liberty isnt awesome)
I'm personally running CM7 and it kicks ass... just hold power button for screen shot option
sent from my CM7 powered Droid X
I'm currently on Liberty. Beats stock in my opinion, but I would like to check out CM7 one day.
I am currently running MIUI 1.9.23. I love it!!
CONS:
Camera a little slow - Re-flash older camera apk
PROS:
Fast
Tons of themes
Easy customization
Weekly updates
lancem71 said:
I am currently running MIUI 1.9.23. I love it!!
CONS:
Camera a little slow - Re-flash older camera apk
PROS:
Fast
Tons of themes
Easy customization
Weekly updates
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Isn't the camera limited to 8MP with no widescreen capability? That was a show stopper for me when I tried it a couple of months ago
I am currently running MIUI 1.9.16.1 and I just love it. I have also used Liberty and CM7. Both are great but I love the battery life, customizability and smoothness of MIUI.
I just installed Cyanogenmod last night and I love it. It's fast, seems stable, and has tons of customization options. I also liked Liberty, except for the pee yellow color (I'm sure there's a theme to change that), but I wasn't a fan of MIUI. It looked very polished, but it was like some weird iPhone wannabe, and wasn't as smooth or fast as Cyanogenmod.
Which version of CM7 are you using. I'm thinking of trying it out but I'm not sure which nightly to go with.
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App
Battery is sub-par MIUI.
zeesh86 said:
I am currently running MIUI 1.9.16.1 and I just love it. I have also used Liberty and CM7. Both are great but I love the battery life, customizability and smoothness of MIUI.
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I'm running MIUI on my X and I get pretty bad battery life...
I'm on 1.9.9
Farbulus said:
I'm running MIUI on my X and I get pretty bad battery life...
I'm on 1.9.9
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Dunno, mine is pretty good. I also use Juice Defender which helps.
Liberty had decent battery life, but CM7 sucked when I was using it. May be they fixed it in the latest updates.
homer169 said:
Which version of CM7 are you using. I'm thinking of trying it out but I'm not sure which nightly to go with.
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The mod version is 7.1.0-RC0 and the build number is GRH78C.
I'm personally on Liberty 0.9 Gingerbread.
While it's great for a Beta ROM, it hasn't been updated in a LONG time, and there are still some outstanding bugs that are starting to get a little annoying. It turns out one of the Devs left, and the other was planning on working on a version of the ROM called Justice based on CM7. I'd use it any day over stock, but I'd love to see some work done on it.
It looks like the DX is reaching the end of it's development sadly, too bad it didn't have a run like the OG Droid.
Anyway, for those of you using CM7, is there anything that's still not working?
Last I read, things like GPS still weren't working, which in all honesty is completely unacceptable for me. My phone is my "every" device; MP3 Player, GPS, Phone, etc etc.
How's the battery life on CM7? It's not great on Liberty, but maybe my battery is getting a bit old.
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Anyway, for those of you using CM7, is there anything that's still not working?
Last I read, things like GPS still weren't working, which in all honesty is completely unacceptable for me. My phone is my "every" device; MP3 Player, GPS, Phone, etc etc.
How's the battery life on CM7? It's not great on Liberty, but maybe my battery is getting a bit old.
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I'm running CM7 on my X and my GPS works good, and my battery life is much better than GB was... charges almost twice as fast as that blurry rom I was on as well.
sent from my CM7 powered Droid X
I was a firm believer in Liberty back in the day.
Then Kejar left and the team went to hell.
Liberty 0.9 is still a DECENT rom though.
Try it out if you're used to the stock experience.
But if you're feeling brave...
I was a FIRM believer in CM7 for a long while.
PROS
-Adjust screen brightness by swiping the status bar
-Take a screenshot by holding power until the option comes up
-Change songs by holding the volume button up/down while the screen is off
-Pause music with camera button while screen is off
-Tmobile themes (You don't need to flash ANYTHING to theme CM7. You simply open the "Themes" Application and swap out a new one [found in the market or online] and it themes your phone without even rebooting!) *Rebooting is recommended for most themes...but you can get the feel of a theme in 5 seconds rather than flashing it...rebooting...checking...deciding you don't like it...flash stock back...yada yada yada*
-FAST I get scores of 3000 in Quadrant running at 1.2ghz.
-%1 battery icon in the status bar (on official froyo kernel only. the "unofficial" gingerbread builds still haven't gotten this working yet).
-Yes, GPS works fine. Everything works fine.
-Lockscreen can have a separate wallpaper.
-Control bar is built into the status bar (change brightness/turn on wifi/etc)
CONS
-No HDMI (I didn't use it anyway)
-No 720p video recording
*These are both RUMORED to be being worked on. Who knows.
I recently, however switched to the newest MIUI build.
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?6392-ROM-MIUI.us-1.9.23
I recommend it HIGHLY.
PROS
-Fast, once again. Same speeds as CM7, it seems.
-THEMES. Woah buddy. Themes are a HUGE part of MIUI.
--You download themes from within a theme application...and they once again, theme your phone without the need of a reboot. The best part is, you can swap out pieces of themes for other pieces if you don't like the whole theme.
I'm rocking a theme on the status bar by one dev...a lockscreen by another...a sms by another...yada yada yada.
-Lockscreens...OMG lockscreens. The lockscreens are AWESOME. There are literally HUNDREDS of options for lockscreens. They are changed via the "themes" application...but woah buddy. These aren't just themes.
There are ICS-like lockscreens. Lockscreens that you can drag in like 10 directions depending on what application you want to open.
http://forums.miui.us/showthread.ph...s-lockscreen-theme-collection-new-theme-26-08 there are some good examples in there.
-A little-known trick...MIUI takes screenshots...faster than CM7 =]
--Hold menu+volume down = instant screenshot.
--*Holding menu+volume up = turns your brightness all the way up!
-Fastboot option (rather than a full reboot) is in the power-menu along with bootloader, full reboot, stock recovery, cwm recovery.
-Control-widget's are, again, built into the status bar (change brightness/turn on wifi/etc).
-Blacklist people from calling/texting you by simply adding them to a list available in the contacts app.
-Reply with text message to ignored calls.
-Blur-like dialer in that you can search via t9 for a contact...rather than memorizing the number or opening the contacts list.
-Lockscreens, again, can have custom wallpapers.
-If you're on your phone, a message pops up at the top of the screen when you get an sms that allows you to reply directly without closing the app you're in.
CONS
-No HDMI
-No 720p
*The 720p IS being worked on...haven't heard about the hdmi.
Thanks. I think I'll check out MIUI this weekend.
How good are they about updates?
Jubakuba said:
I was a firm believer in Liberty back in the day.
Then Kejar left and the team went to hell.
Liberty 0.9 is still a DECENT rom though.
Try it out if you're used to the stock experience.
But if you're feeling brave...
I was a FIRM believer in CM7 for a long while.
PROS
-Adjust screen brightness by swiping the status bar
-Take a screenshot by holding power until the option comes up
-Change songs by holding the volume button up/down while the screen is off
-Pause music with camera button while screen is off
-Tmobile themes (You don't need to flash ANYTHING to theme CM7. You simply open the "Themes" Application and swap out a new one [found in the market or online] and it themes your phone without even rebooting!) *Rebooting is recommended for most themes...but you can get the feel of a theme in 5 seconds rather than flashing it...rebooting...checking...deciding you don't like it...flash stock back...yada yada yada*
-FAST I get scores of 3000 in Quadrant running at 1.2ghz.
-%1 battery icon in the status bar (on official froyo kernel only. the "unofficial" gingerbread builds still haven't gotten this working yet).
-Yes, GPS works fine. Everything works fine.
-Lockscreen can have a separate wallpaper.
-Control bar is built into the status bar (change brightness/turn on wifi/etc)
CONS
-No HDMI (I didn't use it anyway)
-No 720p video recording
*These are both RUMORED to be being worked on. Who knows.
I recently, however switched to the newest MIUI build.
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?6392-ROM-MIUI.us-1.9.23
I recommend it HIGHLY.
PROS
-Fast, once again. Same speeds as CM7, it seems.
-THEMES. Woah buddy. Themes are a HUGE part of MIUI.
--You download themes from within a theme application...and they once again, theme your phone without the need of a reboot. The best part is, you can swap out pieces of themes for other pieces if you don't like the whole theme.
I'm rocking a theme on the status bar by one dev...a lockscreen by another...a sms by another...yada yada yada.
-Lockscreens...OMG lockscreens. The lockscreens are AWESOME. There are literally HUNDREDS of options for lockscreens. They are changed via the "themes" application...but woah buddy. These aren't just themes.
There are ICS-like lockscreens. Lockscreens that you can drag in like 10 directions depending on what application you want to open.
http://forums.miui.us/showthread.ph...s-lockscreen-theme-collection-new-theme-26-08 there are some good examples in there.
-A little-known trick...MIUI takes screenshots...faster than CM7 =]
--Hold menu+volume down = instant screenshot.
--*Holding menu+volume up = turns your brightness all the way up!
-Fastboot option (rather than a full reboot) is in the power-menu along with bootloader, full reboot, stock recovery, cwm recovery.
-Control-widget's are, again, built into the status bar (change brightness/turn on wifi/etc).
-Blacklist people from calling/texting you by simply adding them to a list available in the contacts app.
-Reply with text message to ignored calls.
-Blur-like dialer in that you can search via t9 for a contact...rather than memorizing the number or opening the contacts list.
-Lockscreens, again, can have custom wallpapers.
-If you're on your phone, a message pops up at the top of the screen when you get an sms that allows you to reply directly without closing the app you're in.
CONS
-No HDMI
-No 720p
*The 720p IS being worked on...haven't heard about the hdmi.
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Well ifbit makes you feel any better Kejar31 is back on the team... finishing up my build on the bionic now....As soon as that's completed I will begin porting that work to tyw DX....
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk
AMAZING FEED BACK!!!
thank guys!!!!
im on miui .16
and the only problems im having are
battery life
and my red cam button doesnt work,
i have to focus by pressing the screen rather than the button
other than that its pretty f'ing cool
but someone mention flashing an old cam apk
how would i go about this?
(is it possible to get the blur cam and galley???)
Still stock 3
Holy crap Kejar! I ended up with Cyanogen because Liberty was lagging behind... now I might need to switch back once it gets updated.
Can we start expecting regular updates from this point forward?
EtherBoo said:
Holy crap Kejar! I ended up with Cyanogen because Liberty was lagging behind... now I might need to switch back once it gets updated.
Can we start expecting regular updates from this point forward?
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Notice this tweet
"Liberty 2 for the DX is coming along nicely.... Expect test builds as early as this weekend.. enjoy this teaser http://t.co/7cD87duk"
follow me on twitter to keep up to date
Just askin'.
I hate how laggy it is. Feels like it drags down the experience. But MotoBlur 4.0.4 on the other hand.....least obtrusive skin out there right now, in my opinion.
^^ this. Especially the launcher, first thing I did when I got my atrix is install go launcher. Also, how the option to enable/disable Mobile Data is not in with the other wireless settings - its in the battery section - drove me mad for awhile
Laggy and seriously ugly. Can't stand the UI at all its just really really ugly.
Some of the widgets weren't too bad though but on the whole it wasn't a very nice experience. Installed a new launcher after using the phone for a couple of weeks. Glad to be on cm7 now.
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The damn blue status bar that just looks weird with apps with a black background! Why couldn't they have just made it black?
Other than that and the laggy (but fortunately replaceable) launcher, its a pretty solid rom and Motorola added quite a few useful features.
Sent from my Atrix
tomh235 said:
The damn blue status bar that just looks weird with apps with a black background! Why couldn't they have just made it black?
Other than that and the laggy (but fortunately replaceable) launcher, its a pretty solid rom and Motorola added quite a few useful features.
Sent from my Atrix
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I like the status bar except on apps with black backgrounds. I generally like the UI. It's quite sluggish, though.
I don't really dislike it. But I prefer the stock look
Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk 2
Note that I'm currently on Blur. I've been on it for about two weeks. Before then I was on custom ROMs.
I actually quite like Motoblur 2.3, only if it was anywhere as smooth as the Froyo Blur that our phones shipped with... I just hope that our ICS/JB Blur will be way smoother and better than what we currently have with Gingerbread.
Sent from that Atrix... Motorola, where's my ICS?!
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Note that I'm currently on Blur. I've been on it for about two weeks. Before then I was on custom ROMs.
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What made you decide to return to Blur?
Sent from that Atrix... Motorola, where's my ICS?!
I like Blur UI but not on stock Atrix Gingerbread. The newer GingerBlur is faster and smoother than old Blur like Atrix has. Newer GingerBlur on Bionic,Droid 4 and Razr is way better. Even I like it much more than Blur on ICS.
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huatz84 said:
I like Blur UI but not on stock Atrix Gingerbread. The newer GingerBlur is faster and smoother than old Blur like Atrix has. Newer GingerBlur on Bionic,Droid 4 and Razr is way better. Even I like it much more than Blur on ICS.
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The Blur on the Razr looked cool as hell. I like that black dock, home screen transition and those blue themed widgets way better than what we have on the atrix!
Sent from that Atrix... Motorola, where's my ICS?!
I'm using xperia launcher on nottachtrick and it's far better than stock blur.
I like blur, never got what was so bad about it
Don't know how the launcher is laggy
in landscape mode opening up the app drawer take a second to load
but in portrait mode it is instant
scrolling is fast, no ghosting
apps open almost instantly
I think people here just need to install spare parts, fast animations plus some animations disabled plus compatibility mode and it flies
I like the actual launcher, I used to be thrown off by it because of the app drawer button on the side [g2x and defy had it in center] but I really like having CALL TORCHLIGHT CONTACTS APP DRAWER
I don't have any widgets except for wifi and gps toggle and my 4 basics text, browser, camera, navigation
I had a custom theme so I didn't have to deal with the blue
unfortunately no one has really worked on GB 2.3.5 themes for blur..just cyanogen themes
the camera app is GREAT
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What made you decide to return to Blur?
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I'm waiting for the ICS update (like everyone else), and I thought that the best way to do it would be to go back to Blur. I'm considering switching to CM7 due to how long Motor's taking, but I try to stay away from custom ROMs anyway. By bootloader's software locked anyway.
From the UI point of view Motoblur 2.3 was a descent improvement and I can't really fault it. What ruined it for me both in 2.2 and 2.3 was the number of annoying bugs and one could tell both ROMs had no any kind of optimisations done on them giving the impression the phone is running on much slower CPU. I had previously listed all known bugs in 2.3 for Motorola, on their own Forums, and was updating it as I found more. Before Google purchased Motorola they decided to delete the entire forums to avoid bad publicity since Motorola was being hammered with late upgrades and not responding to anyone.
Generally applications crash more often on Motorola's GB version than other ROMs. Motorola released several updates, some significant, for US-users but nothing for the UK and many other countries where Atrix was sold well. It simply means Motorola knowing ignored the issues in their phones since last year or since GB was released.
I have almost removed everything that Motoblur didn't depend on so I could improve the overall performance of the phone. Without doing my own optimisation procedure I could not use Atrix for this long. Motorola has its own to blame for not investing more on the software side of Atrix and ruined a fantastic phone the money could buy. I'm glad Sanjay Jha is no longer with Motorola Mobility.
CSharpHeaven said:
Generally applications crash more often on Motorola's GB version than other ROMs.
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This.
My wife's stock Atrix cannot handle everyday apps like YouTube for example. Seems like that phone is running beta firmware and not mine.
Sent from my MB860 on CM10
I've been reading through this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1320350&page=39 and I found out that the .62 version of stock Gingerbread cannot be rooted so easily as .42.
I'm using AOKP Jelly Bean now and I'm tired of its lagginess and unstableness. So I'm switching back to GB.
My thoughts are, what if I flashtool GB .62 and install a pre-rooted kernel, will it work? Which kernel?
My main objective: have the latest stock GB rooted.
Thanks!
look at the bottom half of this guide. it shows you how i think
jman2131 said:
look at the bottom half of this guide. it shows you how i think
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Thanks, but it teaches how to root .42
Give some of these a read - root arc 4.0.2.a.0.62
XperienceD said:
Give some of these a read - root arc 4.0.2.a.0.62
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The fact is that I have unlocked boot loader, which makes OTA update unlikely.
quera said:
The fact is that I have unlocked boot loader, which makes OTA update unlikely.
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flash a .62 rom and then flash a pre-rooted kernel such as "doomlord v22" or "advanced stock (by doomlord)"
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flash a .62 rom and then flash a pre-rooted kernel such as "doomlord v22" or "advanced stock (by doomlord)"
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Thanks, I managed this afternoon. I flashed .62 GB with Sony Emma and then installed latest DoomKernel for gingerbread and flashed RootXperia.zip.
Gingerbread is much faster and camera is awesome, but geez, If I had never used ICS or JB it would be ok, but it's just when we use a previous version that we realize how much things have improved since GB. I can't use it. I'll probably try Jelly Sandwich tomorrow.
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Gingerbread is much faster and camera is awesome, but geez, If I had never used ICS or JB it would be ok, but it's just when we use a previous version that we realize how much things have improved since GB. I can't use it. I'll probably try Jelly Sandwich tomorrow.
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What exactly is this BIG crucial thing you are missing from ICS? I also used ICS for almost 2 months, and get back to GB with no problems at all. I just realised how MUCH more this phone is productive and usable with GB.
And I can name you few big things ICS lacks compared to GB.
Gaming performance is ridiculous, as well as overal smoothness, compared to GB. HD recording is better in GB, and wi-fi is better. Battery life is better. Every single app is faster. Browsing web is better.
When you see this things, it turns that every thing crucial for an smartphone is better, so someone is willing to abandon all this, just for the sake of having "new" fancy software, even it's crippled quite a lot, compared to "old" one.
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What exactly is this BIG crucial thing you are missing from ICS? I also used ICS for almost 2 months, and get back to GB with no problems at all. I just realised how MUCH more this phone is productive and usable with GB.
And I can name you few big things ICS lacks compared to GB.
Gaming performance is ridiculous, as well as overal smoothness, compared to GB. HD recording is better in GB, and wi-fi is better. Battery life is better. Every single app is faster. Browsing web is better.
When you see this things, it turns that every thing crucial for an smartphone is better, so someone is willing to abandon all this, just for the sake of having "new" fancy software, even it's crippled quite a lot, compared to "old" one.
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In fact, I miss small improvements, such as status bar. I'll try to numerate somethings I miss:
1) In JB I could read my new email right from Status Bar, without the need to open gmail;
2) I could just swipe to remove some notifications from the status bar;
3) Roboto font-family looks better in ICS+ (but I could live without);
4) Gmail has more features in ICS+, yeah I know it's google's fault;
5) I had toggles (wifi, gps, rotate, torch) right from the status bar in JB AOKP - this is what I most miss;
6) Battery percentage with circular icon in status bar;
7) Ability to access camera faster through lock screen (I installed Holo Locker, but sometimes it doesn't work).
I also tried Jelly Bean Statusbar (from play store), but it lacks all features above.
mr_torture, if you could point some ways to bring these items back to GB (I'm using GB yet) I would be very glad , especially item 5 (status bar toggles).
mr_torture said:
When you see this things, it turns that every thing crucial for an smartphone is better, so someone is willing to abandon all this, just for the sake of having "new" fancy software, even it's crippled quite a lot, compared to "old" one.
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Each to their own, I don't find ICS to be that bad, especially when it's been tweaked a little and from what I've read on here GB is only really better for those that like to play a lot of games on their Phone.
Yeah, I know there are some small fancy things which holds you from going back, and they kept me also for almost two months.
There's no doubt that fully working ICS is much better than fully working GB, noone will argue that.
I'm just saying that ICS implementation for this phone is not among the best, mostly because of crappy performance. Everything else could be lived with, but those lags are just pain in the a.s.s.
Yes, gmail is very limited in GB, and yes, the Roboto font is looking better, and yes, ICS user interface is sleeker and coherent...
But when you balance all good vs bad things, somehow it all comes down to speed and usability. And GB is clear winner there.
Regarding this bulleted number 5, there are at least three options I can think of:
1. Notification Toggle
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwiZGUuajR2ZWxpbi5ub3RpZmljYXRpb25Ub2dnbGUiXQ..
2. Power Toggles
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5wYWlubGVzcy5wYyJd
3. Elixir 2
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwxLDEsImNvbS5iYXJ0YXQuYW5kcm9pZC5lbGl4aXIiXQ..
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XperienceD said:
Each to their own, I don't find ICS to be that bad, especially when it's been tweaked a little and from what I've read on here GB is only really better for those that like to play a lot of games on their Phone.
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I'm talking about stock GB vs stock ICS.
Yeah, it's better for those who would like to play games from time to time, who would like to have better WiFi coverage, who would like to from-wake-to-capture photos fast, who would like to record unchoppy videos, who would like to perform multitasking without phone going almost unresponsive, etc etc...
Yes, ICS is more fancy, is having small improvements, is looking better, is "new" software, etc etc... But in terms of actual performance and real life usability, it's uncomparable with GB.
I installed Notification Toggle and it's running fine! Thanks!
Now I only need battery percentage to be shown with a circular icon in status bar
quera said:
Now I only need battery percentage to be shown with a circular icon in status bar
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You can try this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...mh1YmFsZWsuYW5kcm9pZC5hcHBzLnJlYm9ybi5wcm8iXQ..
Free version:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ibmV0Lmh1YmFsZWsuYW5kcm9pZC5yZWJvcm4uYmV0YSJd
This will add icon on left edge of status bar. But it's not free, and your top right battery icon will remain there. If you want to replace battery icon then search for some custom status bar mods in "Theme & Apps" section.
There are some other apps in play store capable of adding circuar battery icon, but I'm in lazy mode currently.
quera said:
In fact, I miss small improvements, such as status bar. I'll try to numerate somethings I miss:
1) In JB I could read my new email right from Status Bar, without the need to open gmail;
2) I could just swipe to remove some notifications from the status bar;
3) Roboto font-family looks better in ICS+ (but I could live without);
4) Gmail has more features in ICS+, yeah I know it's google's fault;
5) I had toggles (wifi, gps, rotate, torch) right from the status bar in JB AOKP - this is what I most miss;
6) Battery percentage with circular icon in status bar;
7) Ability to access camera faster through lock screen (I installed Holo Locker, but sometimes it doesn't work).
I also tried Jelly Bean Statusbar (from play store), but it lacks all features above.
mr_torture, if you could point some ways to bring these items back to GB (I'm using GB yet) I would be very glad , especially item 5 (status bar toggles).
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Why don't you try this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1910549
[MOD][GB 2.3.4] Modded ICS inspired UI with toggles
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For me ics is unasble on our devices because of the horrible multitasking. I get better batterylife on ics and i think the interface looks better plus there are some nice features like swiping notifications and using the notificationbar in lockscreen. but if i start switching between my apps quickly (Whatsapp, Browser, Xda, Messages, Facebook, IMDB) every app has to load from start everytime i switch. this doesnt happen in gb and thats the main reason for me to stay on gb.
I don't own this device but i did just see this video come up in my subscriptions going over a "never before seen" update that completely changes the interface http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZoh_QKnGbc
Thanks a lot! Its really neat! Oppo said that we will have something big soon. Hopefully this is it.
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Well, it's still not "spectacular". Icons are still iPhone-ish, the Settings menu is still a mess...
I should contact Oppo and offer them to do some better concepts for a few bucks.
XpLoDWilD said:
Well, it's still not "spectacular". Icons are still iPhone-ish, the Settings menu is still a mess...
I should contact Oppo and offer them to do some better concepts for a few bucks.
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with the new update. you will be able to change icon packs easily. they are introducing there own "theme store"
excited to see what they are doing
with the new update they sent out yesterday, they updated the lock screen with a new version! so slick. i love it!
Some interesting things in the video. This is not Oppo specific, but I have to say that all this stuff the vendors are doing with software are just kind of... meh.
/rant
I mean seriously, how many screen, menu transitions do we need. Some of us could give two s$*ts about snow building up on an icon...
Give me SOLID bluetooth to headset performance for 3 hour meetings.
Give me an amazing email client for enterprise messaging systems.
I'd like a bigger sensor for the love of God! 13 megapixels isn't worth diddly if the sensor is crap... and they all are. Thinking you can replace a camera with a phone right now is a serious flaw in logic.
Improve on signal strength and antenna design for better signal in suspect areas.
/-rant
I really am leaning toward getting the Black international 32GB version. The level of 'real' updates, improving performance and fixing issues, is impressive thus far. I can change the UI by installing the homescreen app of my choosing, so leave this stuff for later please
WhiteSRT69 said:
with the new update. you will be able to change icon packs easily. they are introducing there own "theme store"
excited to see what they are doing
with the new update they sent out yesterday, they updated the lock screen with a new version! so slick. i love it!
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Still, the Camera app is super basic and looks like apps we did 2 years ago, the Settings menu is totally disorganized, the contacts app is everything but cool like Android 4.0 stock Contacts app, etc...
There's a point where theming cannot just cover everything. Ok for the icons, but the apps stay the same, experience stays the same. How are they going to bring 4.2's lockscreen widgets? Quick settings? They update their current design without planning features released a few months ago, and god knows users are angry when you don't update their favorite handset to the latest OS version -- especially knowing the next Android version comes in less than a month now.
Now, you can perfectly live happy with it, that's just my opinion ^^ I love enhanced user experience, and Oppo firmware just looks like a step back to me compared to stock 4.2, half-way between Gingerbread and ICS.
If I have some time, I'll do a mockup or two for an UI Oppo-style, but with 4.2 experience.
XpLoDWilD said:
Still, the Camera app is super basic and looks like apps we did 2 years ago, the Settings menu is totally disorganized, the contacts app is everything but cool like Android 4.0 stock Contacts app, etc...
There's a point where theming cannot just cover everything. Ok for the icons, but the apps stay the same, experience stays the same. How are they going to bring 4.2's lockscreen widgets? Quick settings? They update their current design without planning features released a few months ago, and god knows users are angry when you don't update their favorite handset to the latest OS version -- especially knowing the next Android version comes in less than a month now.
Now, you can perfectly live happy with it, that's just my opinion ^^ I love enhanced user experience, and Oppo firmware just looks like a step back to me compared to stock 4.2, half-way between Gingerbread and ICS.
If I have some time, I'll do a mockup or two for an UI Oppo-style, but with 4.2 experience.
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Ohhhhh.I'll.be waiting for that one. I.love aosp but my grippes with it is camera optimization
Sent from my Oppo Find 5
with CM10.1 from XpLoDWilD i got better battery life than stock firmware
My test is left the phone full charge throught night, after 7 hours. stock firmware took 11% percent, CM10.1 took 5%. (I Only turn wifi on, 3g and data disable)