What don't you like about Motoblur 2.3? - Atrix 4G General

Just askin'.

I hate how laggy it is. Feels like it drags down the experience. But MotoBlur 4.0.4 on the other hand.....least obtrusive skin out there right now, in my opinion.

^^ this. Especially the launcher, first thing I did when I got my atrix is install go launcher. Also, how the option to enable/disable Mobile Data is not in with the other wireless settings - its in the battery section - drove me mad for awhile

Laggy and seriously ugly. Can't stand the UI at all its just really really ugly.
Some of the widgets weren't too bad though but on the whole it wasn't a very nice experience. Installed a new launcher after using the phone for a couple of weeks. Glad to be on cm7 now.
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The damn blue status bar that just looks weird with apps with a black background! Why couldn't they have just made it black?
Other than that and the laggy (but fortunately replaceable) launcher, its a pretty solid rom and Motorola added quite a few useful features.
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The damn blue status bar that just looks weird with apps with a black background! Why couldn't they have just made it black?
Other than that and the laggy (but fortunately replaceable) launcher, its a pretty solid rom and Motorola added quite a few useful features.
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I like the status bar except on apps with black backgrounds. I generally like the UI. It's quite sluggish, though.

I don't really dislike it. But I prefer the stock look
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Note that I'm currently on Blur. I've been on it for about two weeks. Before then I was on custom ROMs.

I actually quite like Motoblur 2.3, only if it was anywhere as smooth as the Froyo Blur that our phones shipped with... I just hope that our ICS/JB Blur will be way smoother and better than what we currently have with Gingerbread.
Sent from that Atrix... Motorola, where's my ICS?!
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nerfman100 said:
Note that I'm currently on Blur. I've been on it for about two weeks. Before then I was on custom ROMs.
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What made you decide to return to Blur?
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I like Blur UI but not on stock Atrix Gingerbread. The newer GingerBlur is faster and smoother than old Blur like Atrix has. Newer GingerBlur on Bionic,Droid 4 and Razr is way better. Even I like it much more than Blur on ICS.
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huatz84 said:
I like Blur UI but not on stock Atrix Gingerbread. The newer GingerBlur is faster and smoother than old Blur like Atrix has. Newer GingerBlur on Bionic,Droid 4 and Razr is way better. Even I like it much more than Blur on ICS.
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The Blur on the Razr looked cool as hell. I like that black dock, home screen transition and those blue themed widgets way better than what we have on the atrix!
Sent from that Atrix... Motorola, where's my ICS?!

I'm using xperia launcher on nottachtrick and it's far better than stock blur.

I like blur, never got what was so bad about it
Don't know how the launcher is laggy
in landscape mode opening up the app drawer take a second to load
but in portrait mode it is instant
scrolling is fast, no ghosting
apps open almost instantly
I think people here just need to install spare parts, fast animations plus some animations disabled plus compatibility mode and it flies
I like the actual launcher, I used to be thrown off by it because of the app drawer button on the side [g2x and defy had it in center] but I really like having CALL TORCHLIGHT CONTACTS APP DRAWER
I don't have any widgets except for wifi and gps toggle and my 4 basics text, browser, camera, navigation
I had a custom theme so I didn't have to deal with the blue
unfortunately no one has really worked on GB 2.3.5 themes for blur..just cyanogen themes
the camera app is GREAT

tatperson said:
What made you decide to return to Blur?
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I'm waiting for the ICS update (like everyone else), and I thought that the best way to do it would be to go back to Blur. I'm considering switching to CM7 due to how long Motor's taking, but I try to stay away from custom ROMs anyway. By bootloader's software locked anyway.

From the UI point of view Motoblur 2.3 was a descent improvement and I can't really fault it. What ruined it for me both in 2.2 and 2.3 was the number of annoying bugs and one could tell both ROMs had no any kind of optimisations done on them giving the impression the phone is running on much slower CPU. I had previously listed all known bugs in 2.3 for Motorola, on their own Forums, and was updating it as I found more. Before Google purchased Motorola they decided to delete the entire forums to avoid bad publicity since Motorola was being hammered with late upgrades and not responding to anyone.
Generally applications crash more often on Motorola's GB version than other ROMs. Motorola released several updates, some significant, for US-users but nothing for the UK and many other countries where Atrix was sold well. It simply means Motorola knowing ignored the issues in their phones since last year or since GB was released.
I have almost removed everything that Motoblur didn't depend on so I could improve the overall performance of the phone. Without doing my own optimisation procedure I could not use Atrix for this long. Motorola has its own to blame for not investing more on the software side of Atrix and ruined a fantastic phone the money could buy. I'm glad Sanjay Jha is no longer with Motorola Mobility.

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Generally applications crash more often on Motorola's GB version than other ROMs.
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This.
My wife's stock Atrix cannot handle everyday apps like YouTube for example. Seems like that phone is running beta firmware and not mine.
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Like the NS but don't like Gingerbread so far

I just switched from a MT4G with Froyo 2.2.1 Sense UI to an NS with gingerbread 2.3.1. I must say that the phone is great as the MT4G is, but the Android gingerbread experience is bad. I think that this version of gingerbread should never have seen an end-user device like the NS that is sold by BestBuy. As a development platform or for geeks 2.3.1 is ok. But I think there are so many bugs and unpolished things in Gingerbread that I wish sometimes I would be back to Froyo with Sense UI. I had a N1 before and I know what Stock android means. Gingerbread feels at the moment like a bad beta: there are some lags on the homescreen with the stock launcher introduced with 2.3.1. The browser and flash movies is not usable at all, it is so choppy that it is an embarrassment to release something like that to end-users. We have a FFC but no support from Google for that yet and an NFC that is not supported yet either. I hope that we don't have to wait 6 months until we see a stable and snappy running version of Gingerbread. I can imagine that a lot of NS go back because the people that switch from iphones, BB or Sense UI Android phones expected something else.
uhhhhhh what? I've had zero bugs. ZERO. Way better than SENSE(YUCK) and FroYo. Reflash the software. Don't just complain and not be pro-active to fixing it. Gingerbread is VERY stable and VERY runnable. Start being pro-active and fix it. Just reflash gingerbread or warranty it out for a new one. It DEFINITELY works fine for 99% of the people out there.
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I just switched from a MT4G with Froyo 2.2.1 Sense UI to an NS with gingerbread 2.3.1. I must say that the phone is great as the MT4G is, but the Android gingerbread experience is bad. I think that this version of gingerbread should never have seen an end-user device like the NS that is sold by BestBuy. As a development platform or for geeks 2.3.1 is ok. But I think there are so many bugs and unpolished things in Gingerbread that I wish sometimes I would be back to Froyo with Sense UI. I had a N1 before and I know what Stock android means. Gingerbread feels at the moment like a bad beta: there are some lags on the homescreen with the stock launcher introduced with 2.3.1. The browser and flash movies is not usable at all, it is so choppy that it is an embarrassment to release something like that to end-users. We have a FFC but no support from Google for that yet and an NFC that is not supported yet either. I hope that we don't have to wait 6 months until we see a stable and snappy running version of Gingerbread. I can imagine that a lot of NS go back because the people that switch from iphones, BB or Sense UI Android phones expected something else.
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IDK what kinda Gingerbread you dealing with because Im not having those issues. My phone is great. Comparing MT4G sense to Gingerbread is like comapring a Kia to a Lambo...
I run stock 2.3.1 and my browser is lagging and flash videos are very choppy that were just fine on the mt4g. Home screen swiping fails sometimes too. Need a second swipe to move.
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Gingerbread stock is chock full of glitches. Others have reported the same, and I've experienced it myself. The home screen does lag every so often, including freeze (requiring a reboot); there are issues sometimes with trying to move icons (they don't get set correctly, or mysteriously appear in folders); there are problems with the stock keyboard (discussed a ton of times in other threads); gallery pictures sometimes disappear; often things requiring tapping twice to launch (despite the highlight clearly showing you've pressed it the first time); and probably one of the biggest offenders: custom ringtones constantly change randomly.
There's a slew of other problems often mentioned. I wouldn't go so far as desiring Froyo, but there's no question GB could use a helping hand of bug fixes in its next update.
Not one problem here. =D
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I've not had any homescreen trouble and I guess I've not even tried Flash in the browser but if you want something more Sense style why not try a different Launcher? LauncherPro or ADW or Zeam or Go or whatever...
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I run stock 2.3.1 and my browser is lagging and flash videos are very choppy that were just fine on the mt4g. Home screen swiping fails sometimes too. Need a second swipe to move.
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No issues as far as the screen goes on my end. The browser is a known issue and a fix will be coming shortly, hopefully.
The OP might want to try a different launcher like Launcher Pro or ADW. The launcher really sets the look and feel of the device, and most third party launchers will let you get features HTC Sense or even an iPhone look and feel.
I personally like the Gingerbread experience with Launcher Pro, but to say it's perfect and bug free is a joke. There are plenty of bugs, most are minor, but some are downright major.
Major ones include the random reboots, in-call reboots, and bluetooth stereo streaming not working. Many report these right here.
Gingerbread definitely has a bit of a beta feel for me, or maybe more like a release candidate feel...
you forgot to list the random ringtones changing on its own
it finally happened to me! LOL
distortedloop said:
The OP might want to try a different launcher like Launcher Pro or ADW. The launcher really sets the look and feel of the device, and most third party launchers will let you get features HTC Sense or even an iPhone look and feel.
I personally like the Gingerbread experience with Launcher Pro, but to say it's perfect and bug free is a joke. There are plenty of bugs, most are minor, but some are downright major.
Major ones include the random reboots, in-call reboots, and bluetooth stereo streaming not working. Many report these right here.
Gingerbread definitely has a bit of a beta feel for me, or maybe more like a release candidate feel...
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I agree with the RC feel and no doubt the reason it's taking Google a long time to get GB out to other devices like the N1.
onthecouchagain said:
Gingerbread stock is chock full of glitches. Others have reported the same, and I've experienced it myself. The home screen does lag every so often, including freeze (requiring a reboot); there are issues sometimes with trying to move icons (they don't get set correctly, or mysteriously appear in folders); there are problems with the stock keyboard (discussed a ton of times in other threads); gallery pictures sometimes disappear; often things requiring tapping twice to launch (despite the highlight clearly showing you've pressed it the first time); and probably one of the biggest offenders: custom ringtones constantly change randomly.
There's a slew of other problems often mentioned. I wouldn't go so far as desiring Froyo, but there's no question GB could use a helping hand of bug fixes in its next update.
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Thank you! I thought I am the only person who has these issues. I guess the people that have no problems are the ones that are rooted or running mods. But that was not what I am talking about. I was talking about stock gingerbread 2.3.1. I think I shouldn't be forced to root my phone to have it run properly.
AllGamer said:
you forgot to list the random ringtones changing on its own
it finally happened to me! LOL
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That would have been on my minor list...but only because it hasn't happened to me in quite a while.
Rebooting during a phone call is a major flaw, as well. Don't know how I forgot to mention that one too.
You know, I don't know how many people read my other posts in other threads, but I'm really beginning to reevaluate my position regarding Android overall. I am beginning to understand the price of customization, the price of having two different people develop software and hardware. Unfortunately, I don't agree with Apple's "the average user is an idiot" philosophy either... so I don't know. A part of me feels Google isn't taking the reigns of this as they should or could, and it shows. The Android experience can feel second rate.
Edit: Sorry to hi-jack the thread. Conclusion is, yes, GB is chock full of glitches.
Sure, I've had a couple reboots here and there, and the browser is very laggy on big pages, but overall I'm loving it. I'm running stock Gingerbread, not rooted, with Launcher Pro and this thing is fast. Real fast.
At first I didn't love this phone. Then I went back to my Nexus One for a day and couldn't deal. The screen on the Nexus S is awesome. It's fast, with tons of room for apps. I'm also running Better Keyboard. The stock keyboard was pretty good too, but BK seems to be running just fine in both portrait and landscape.
Sometimes after reboot, Launcher Pro crashes immediately. I restart it then it lasts forever. Not sure if it's an LP bug or a Gingerbread bug. But I'm sure some bug fixes will come over time.
I love my Nexus One to death. I will never sell that phone. But the Nexus S is my new baby.
mojonation1487 said:
uhhhhhh what? I've had zero bugs. ZERO. Way better than SENSE(YUCK) and FroYo. Reflash the software. Don't just complain and not be pro-active to fixing it. Gingerbread is VERY stable and VERY runnable. Start being pro-active and fix it. Just reflash gingerbread or warranty it out for a new one. It DEFINITELY works fine for 99% of the people out there.
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When you say Gingerbread is "way better than Froyo"....what exactly is better ? just curious
Im as big an Android fanboy as there is, but to say GB doesn't have a decent amount of bugs is ignorant. My 2 biggest gripes are the stock launcher problems and the laggy browser. Launcher Pro is a lifesaver. I don't know how 3rd party launchers can be BETTER than Google's own, but they are.
I also had the mt4g and realised it seemed quicker and had better quadrant scores because it has.over 700mb of ram and a second gen snapdragon. That being said, the NS is a dev phone so b patient and wait for more tweaks and custom roms to come out.
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I just switched from a MT4G with Froyo 2.2.1 Sense UI to an NS with gingerbread 2.3.1. I must say that the phone is great as the MT4G is, but the Android gingerbread experience is bad. I think that this version of gingerbread should never have seen an end-user device like the NS that is sold by BestBuy. As a development platform or for geeks 2.3.1 is ok. But I think there are so many bugs and unpolished things in Gingerbread that I wish sometimes I would be back to Froyo with Sense UI. I had a N1 before and I know what Stock android means. Gingerbread feels at the moment like a bad beta: there are some lags on the homescreen with the stock launcher introduced with 2.3.1. The browser and flash movies is not usable at all, it is so choppy that it is an embarrassment to release something like that to end-users. We have a FFC but no support from Google for that yet and an NFC that is not supported yet either. I hope that we don't have to wait 6 months until we see a stable and snappy running version of Gingerbread. I can imagine that a lot of NS go back because the people that switch from iphones, BB or Sense UI Android phones expected something else.
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Finally, got my Nexus S from UK
And I agree with the OP ... Gingerbread feels not finished ... not polished ... with a little bit lag from here and there.
Web browser is lag lag and lag (Flash updated, set to on demand). It is not comparable to my old HTC Desire (even though it is also a bit lag).
To be honest, HTC done much better on this! Sense is smooth, it's web browser is much faster.
And I am talking HTC Desire .... old hardware, old snapdragon gen 1 !!
Hopefully this will be addressed soon.
Decided to finally come out of lurking and throw in my $0.02:
Been switching back and forth between my Nexus one and Nexus S (Have LauncherPro on both) for the past few weeks. I haven't had any of the aforementioned bugs or problems with the Nexus S on 2.3.1 and IMHO it definitely feels more polished than 2.2.1. If anything I think there's considerable improvement from 2.2 to 2.3 in terms of feel like a "more complete and polished OS" as compared to 2.1 and previous.
But also keep in mind that those of us with Nexus S's are those who want to be at the bleeding edge of everything. For those of you less familiar with Google doctrine on their "products" like Chrome, Gmail (back in the day) need to realize that Google likes to push stuff out for early adopters to catch all the bugs and provide them feedback on your experience with it. Then over time they'll polish it all up and provide an better experience.

Blur launcher... the fastest

After 1,5 months of messing with adw, launcher pro, gb launcher, I've tried motoblur default and I'm amazed how fast it works. The scrolling is definitely the smoothest even with a live wallpaper, icon placements are done ok (when u want to rearrange them you don't have to move the first one first).
Too bad you can't replace the dock!!!
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wait a few weeks till Gingerbread comes out and the new blur will let you do it
I've seen the new blur and yes, it's better than the current! But few weeks, I don't think so, maybe for AT&T, but for Bell....
I even find the look of the dock cool, but it's just so dumb for them to have put contacts and a phone shortcut instead of phone and web browser.
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wait a few weeks till Gingerbread comes out and the new blur will let you do it
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Are you actually able to change the dock image on the gingerbread blur update?
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Are you actually able to change the dock image on the gingerbread blur update?
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The dock is different. Instead of the dumb phone and contact shortcut + launcher circle set up that it is right now, it becomes four changeable shortcut icons and a launcher icon.
The dock is ok-ish... the fugly part is the fact that it changes to the dotted thingy when u flip the pages.
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After 1,5 months of messing with adw, launcher pro, gb launcher, I've tried motoblur default and I'm amazed how fast it works. The scrolling is definitely the smoothest even with a live wallpaper, icon placements are done ok (when u want to rearrange them you don't have to move the first one first).
Too bad you can't replace the dock!!!
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I have the same impression. Blur is maybe the ugliest but the most stable and fastest. I tired all the other launchers and after a while they bugged me all either they were instable, choppy or bloated with functions that I don't use.
the new blur dock will only allow you to change the first 3 icons. The 4th icon is the appdrawer button that will not be changeable.
Also, the dots when swiping screens are gone, but be replaced by tiny dots on the bottom of the dock when you swipe through the screens, therefore not taking away your icons.
I don't think you're able to change the dock image, but you can change 3 of the 4 icons.
I've used all the launchers as well. The smoothest I've come across is the Go Launcher. Think I'm going to give blur a shot again too. Worse part about the blur launchers was definitely the stupid dot when changing pages.
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Gotta disagree that it's better than most 3rd party launchers.
For instance when you go from one homescreen to the next, you can't instantly go to the app drawer. Sure it's a second, but IMO it's still irritating. It's little things like that that ADD UP to why MotoBlur fails.
I've tried to go back a few times, and I still can't justify using MB over a 3rd party launcher like LP or Go.
I've also seen the upcoming changes with MB, and I'm still unimpressed. Sure it's better than the current state, but it's still bloatware that I need to freeze again.
Bottom Line - There's no good reason why Motorola should be using MotoBlur, when Vanilla Android is hands down the better choice. You have to question Motorola's "Intentions" of still committing to MB, when the vast majority of people want it removed...
I mean, saying that the "vast majority" of users would like to have it removed seems like an over-exaggeration.
People like us that even know that there are different launcher choices or that MotoBlur can be frozen are in the minority when it comes to the overall amount of people out there with an Atrix.
Truthfully, the "vast majority" of people with this phone are using it stock and are enjoying it just fine.
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I mean, saying that the "vast majority" of users would like to have it removed seems like an over-exaggeration.
People like us that even know that there are different launcher choices or that MotoBlur can be frozen are in the minority when it comes to the overall amount of people out there with an Atrix.
Truthfully, the "vast majority" of people with this phone are using it stock and are enjoying it just fine.
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Even XDA aside - Engaget, GSMArena, AndroidForums right off the top of my head pretty much feels the same too.
That doesn't include review sites such as TechRadar that bash it too.
Finally my friend is an Account Executive for AT&T and he even gets questions from customers of what they can "legally" do to remove it without voiding their warranty.
Part of the reason why many want the Bootloader gone is to strip MB down as much as possible.
MotoBlur was gimmicky enough for say the backflip, but it doesn't belong on a high end device...
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ha, looking forward for atrix with gingerbread
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neodoru said:
After 1,5 months of messing with adw, launcher pro, gb launcher, I've tried motoblur default and I'm amazed how fast it works. The scrolling is definitely the smoothest even with a live wallpaper, icon placements are done ok (when u want to rearrange them you don't have to move the first one first).
Too bad you can't replace the dock!!!
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I agreed. I've been testing many different launchers and motoblur is the only one that has no lag at all. The main thing that really makes me mad about it is that you cannot remove homescreens (I want only 4, no 7!). It would be cool if you could ad more apps to the dock, but I can live with that...not the homescreen though...and it's such a silly thing...
I've given up mb ... the dock and the ungrouped widgets are way too annoying! Playing with golauncher which is smooth but crashy.
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My buddy has gingerbread on his Droid X and its slow as balls. Hope ours is better.
I think that the Atrix will only be as fast as it can be once honeycomb is out. It has been said over and again that it's the only build that was actually thought of with dual core in mind.
Motorola shot its' own foot with the Atrix. It's unacceptable that this phone lags in day to day tasks where high end single core phones don't.
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I think that the Atrix will only be as fast as it can be once honeycomb is out. It has been said over and again that it's the only build that was actually thought of with dual core in mind.
Motorola shot its' own foot with the Atrix. It's unacceptable that this phone lags in day to day tasks where high end single core phones don't.
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Honeycomb is for tablets.
I do love changing my dock icons/shortcuts but i also love that with launcher pro i can change my grid size and the home screens rotate if i'm in landscape.
I do notice a slight lag when i rotate but nothing worth going back to blur for... at least not yet

pure ICS on galaxy s3?

mod edit: i don't like the touch wiz UI
Lol at least give it a chance before making such a claim. Use it when it comes out then we can say if it is shyte... There are other launchers like apex and etc..
ok good point, i like the concepts though like if you are messaging then put to your ear and it calls, but im talking about the pure visual aspect of it, the icons look like they come from a 2001 nokia colour phone
Icons are always customisable though with root access. I always wonder why people complain about a UI or skin when it can always be changed or removed.
Ive never used any of the previous versions of touchwiz for more than a few minutes at a time on friends' phones but have always preferred it over the other mfr UIs ive tried. Its actually one of the things im looking forward to with this.
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pure aosp will take atleast a month or 2, team hacksung have not yet received enough donations for getting the mobile yet.
and guys the term "touchwiz" not only mentions the launcher but mentions the whole load of softwares customized by samsung like, fm radio, music player,camera app etc etc.
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and guys the term "touchwiz" not only mentions the launcher but mentions the whole load of softwares customized by samsung like, fm radio, music player,camera app etc etc.
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Indeed.
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Wow wait.. so you've already used the new Touch Wiz? You must have to make a claim like that..
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why would I use it? its all over the web the videos
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why would I use it? its all over the web the videos
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Not the entire UI.. little clips here and there but the fact is NONE of us have it and NONE of us have actually used the new Touchwiz UI. Its not just an icon pack
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i don't want AOSP on it. It's damn boring. NO more vanilla for me. And the Nexus program is an epic fail, NOT the first to get updates.
I always use Go Launcher but will run with TW on the S3 to see how I like
What's wrong with TouchWiz, I would rank it second after TimeScape of Sony (dont like HTC Sense)
And I would give TouchWiz 4.0 the crown
vanilla rocks!
i got a warning for swearing, sorry for swearing
Pure ICS is definitely coming to the S3. Some developers have already said it.
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i don't want AOSP on it. It's damn boring. NO more vanilla for me. And the Nexus program is an epic fail, NOT the first to get updates.
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Uh, yes, the Nexus lines ARE the first to get updates... Well, the GSM variants anyway. Don't whine about having a Nexus and not getting updates fast when you're on a stupid CDMA network with their closed source radio driver crap.
Look aosp is cool, but i am that type of human that i will hardly live with only one type of ui for more than two months, first there are themes and than its big jump (like tw->cm9 or cm9->MIUI....)....so i expect i will try to stick with stock as long as possible and than go out and try some modifications
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Im going to change just one thing , I square icons at the bottom to stock ics, and that's it. Love the drop down toggles. And some of the touchwize apps I'll just not use.
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Uh, yes, the Nexus lines ARE the first to get updates... Well, the GSM variants anyway. Don't whine about having a Nexus and not getting updates fast when you're on a stupid CDMA network with their closed source radio driver crap.
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I couldn't agree more to this!!!
No more carrier delays for me... and I really look forward to PURE AOSP! The closest I ever got to that was with CM 7 resp. CM 9 on my S2 and Nook tablets... and I liked it a lot!
Certainly better than st*pid HTC Sense..!
Can't wait for next week to arrive!!!!!!
why would you use a feature`less software like stock ics? i had galaxy nexus and it was boring ... tw may have bloat but it has nice features ... if you want stock buy google phone if you want sense buy htc ... simple...
plus if you look in the app drawer is ics stock like
It's a matter of preference. look at the stock ICS E-mail, Contacts and messaging apps. a combination of a Beautiful, modern design with the maximum possible functionality. It just looks, feels and works so well, exactly how a modern UI should. Google really hit the ball out of the park with holo.
Now look at the TW ones - they're basically the same FroYo ones used in the previous galaxies - they don't have that stremlined, modern look of stock ICS. They look dated and ancient and do not feel like ICS at all. The messaging app especially. Black background with grey borders and ugly buttons - and yellow and cyan chat bubbles.. seriously samsung?
having said that, TW does have a very, very good launcher - very smooth and very flexible - i have no issues with that. The TW UX launcher is even better in that regard. it's the core apps that piss me off because they look ugly and dated.

I love Sense... Confessions of a AOSP lover

I've been a die hard AOSP guy. Came from a OG Droid then went to the Tbolt and helped port AOSP/Miui with that RIL but I hated it because it wasn't a full AOSP supported device. I got the Galaxy Nexus then a N7, N10 and finally a GSM Galaxy Nexus.
I swore I would be on AOSP the moment I got the device, but I held out. I tried it and I love it. There are some things I hate like the lack of quick notifications (4.2.2 issue more than anything) and a few quirks here and there. But I am in l am in love with the beautiful interface, perfect keyboard (AOSP, Swype, & Swiftkey had a three way and this is it's baby) and most of all I am in love with the gallery and camera app. It's a very intuitive interface on the camera although autofocus can be wonky. BUT that's all made up for by the gallery.... The events (initially annoying) is fantastic. I love Zoe because it adds just that little bit to the memory and I am loving the way highlights creates a montage of images to music. I wish the music had more choices but it is almost perfect. I have a 10 month old and it makes the memories that much more special...
Thanks HTC for putting your heart and soul into this device and coming out with the best smartphone I have ever used
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altimax98 said:
There are some things I hate like the lack of quick notifications (4.2.2 issue more than anything)
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you can expand some notifications in sense by zooming (pinching) out, there are no toggles though (altough older versions of sense used to have quick toggles before anyone else got them but somehow htc decided to ditch them in sense 4...)
Until we get 4.2... I have WidgetLocker and NiLS that gives me notifications on the lock screen.
Honestly, i am also an AOSP lover and i was pleasently surprised by sense 5, the only things that i miss now is the notification panel for my shortcuts, but i can get by pretty easy.
Also, hi there One community
There is messing a lot of things on this unfortunate and basic sense 5. Widgets, most practical sense widgets gone, skins (there are not any) only three different a kinds of unlock, application list never gone, always there. If you close your phone and open it, application list is there. Like blink feed but useless if you cannot add more feeds... So sense is very nice but there is munch things that missing...
godutch said:
you can expand some notifications in sense by zooming (pinching) out, there are no toggles though (altough older versions of sense used to have quick toggles before anyone else got them but somehow htc decided to ditch them in sense 4...)
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Use Power Toggles or Notification Toggles apps... download from PlayShop
I agree, Sense 5 is much better than previous versions of sense, but the app drawer really doesn't do it for me, still prefer almost everything about AOSP
altimax98 said:
I've been a die hard AOSP guy. Came from a OG Droid then went to the Tbolt and helped port AOSP/Miui with that RIL but I hated it because it wasn't a full AOSP supported device. I got the Galaxy Nexus then a N7, N10 and finally a GSM Galaxy Nexus.
I swore I would be on AOSP the moment I got the device, but I held out. I tried it and I love it. There are some things I hate like the lack of quick notifications (4.2.2 issue more than anything) and a few quirks here and there. But I am in l am in love with the beautiful interface, perfect keyboard (AOSP, Swype, & Swiftkey had a three way and this is it's baby) and most of all I am in love with the gallery and camera app. It's a very intuitive interface on the camera although autofocus can be wonky. BUT that's all made up for by the gallery.... The events (initially annoying) is fantastic. I love Zoe because it adds just that little bit to the memory and I am loving the way highlights creates a montage of images to music. I wish the music had more choices but it is almost perfect. I have a 10 month old and it makes the memories that much more special...
Thanks HTC for putting your heart and soul into this device and coming out with the best smartphone I have ever used
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
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I'm right there with you. I usually prefer the look and feel of AOSP - I couldn't stand Sense 4 or Sense 4+ - but Sense 5 is surprisingly good. It's almost as coheisve of a user experience as AOSP, if not more so.
I prefer a few things about Sense to AOSP – most notably the camera and the e-mail app. It also has some nice widgets, though nothing I couldn’t live without. I’ve actually come to kind-of like Blinkfeed when I have a few minutes to kill, but again, it’s nothing I couldn’t live without.
Occasionally, it even feels more cohesive than AOSP – for example, you can swipe left and right through e-mails in the e-mail app, the same way you can in the Gmail app. The last time I tried the AOSP Android mail client, it still didn’t support that, which was mildly infuriating.
Finally, Sense 5 is at least polite enough to try and compliment the Holo theme of AOSP – TouchWiz and Sense 4, on the other hand, look and feel like someone glued Gingerbread to Jellybean.
(I will still be SwiftKey 4 Life, though )
I never even setup Blink Feed... Thought it was stupid from the get go.
I installed Nova and have been loving the drawer and all the other great features.. the stock app drawer is lame though
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Yeah I'm not a fan of Sense and put another launcher on pretty quickly. I would love to move to something like CM10 but until I hear things like the camera has no loss in quality or the IR sender is working then it's a no go. I just hope that HTC at some point change the layout and allow the notification panels. Also their lockscreen is like arse!
What do you mean with notification panels, you mean the extended notifications with reply, read etc? Because these have already been implemented in sense.
Silellak said:
(I will still be SwiftKey 4 Life, though )
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I do find HTC's keyboard really great and full of features but I too think SwiftKey is the greatest (wish they had more themes)
...at least till Minuum takes over the wold
altimax98 said:
I never even setup Blink Feed... Thought it was stupid from the get go.
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I think BlinkFeed is awesome. No more "what to do I'm bored" whenever I have a 2 minutes to check my phone. All the content I'm interested in is right there, waiting for me on the homescreen
I absolutely love sense 5 on this phone. I admit I have had to as Nova and other launchers run like ass on it, but it's faster and smoother than any other launcher anyway, and blinkfeed is brilliant.
AOSP CM etc are so ugly and featureless compared to sense. There is no single feature on 4.2.2, CM, AOSP or any launcher, I would now take over sense.
All I would take is the gallery app fom HTC One X or from the Xperia Z
Well done HTC.
+1 to the OP!
I love Sense 5, running my device stock/unrooted for a week since I got it and really don't miss full AOSP atm. Great work by HTC devs with Sense 5.
Ok... Here's my confession... I love TouchWiz. Sense too. These two skins are far better than AOSP.
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Hi, my name is xcomputerman and I'm a Sense lover.
My previous phone was a Galaxy S II. I managed Touchwiz for a few months but couldn't stand it anymore, so I finally went back to AOSP. For a while I spent time with ParanoidAndroid, then later gave up the joys of hybrid phabletism for the sheer purity of CM10.1. It was Android nirvana. Or so I thought.
HTC's Sense 5 has blown me away. It is better than stock Android. Flat out better. I'll say it. I do have a couple of niggles with it (I'd rather have BlinkFeed as a home screen widget instead of the way they have the launcher set up), but man. Sense is slick. Slick, refined, polished. The email client is five times better than the stock Android one. The SMS app is gorgeous. The dialer is so sexy. The fonts are clean. I had this longstanding annoyance with AOSP email in that the formatting in Exchange email replies was always a little different/weird, but HTC does it right. Everything looks cohesive and well thought out. The camera app is brilliant. The syncing is really well done.
I'm not looking to go back to an AOSP ROM anytime soon. As it is, despite my annoyances with the sense launcher, I'm even hesitant to replace it with my favorite (Nova).
Well done, HTC. Well done.
rizevnarastek said:
I do find HTC's keyboard really great and full of features but I too think SwiftKey is the greatest (wish they had more themes)
...at least till Minuum takes over the wold
I think BlinkFeed is awesome. No more "what to do I'm bored" whenever I have a 2 minutes to check my phone. All the content I'm interested in is right there, waiting for me on the homescreen
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For me though BlinkFeed doesn't seem grown up enough. The selection is very limited and the app drawer is a nightmare lol
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The things you like have nothing to do with the skin of the phone. HTC could have just made a new gallery, camera and keyboard app without changing anything else.
Just because someone is an AOSP lover doesnt mean that they love all the stock android apps as well.
And lol at the person who said that cm10 looks bland, well you know you can just theme it however you like!
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Gambler_3 said:
The things you like have nothing to do with the skin of the phone. HTC could have just made a new gallery, camera and keyboard app without changing anything else.
Just because someone is an AOSP lover doesnt mean that they love all the stock android apps as well.
And lol at the person who said that cm10 looks bland, well you know you can just theme it however you like!
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Most themes are horrid . If you like a clean theme your going to have hard time with cm. And sooner or later everyone gets over flashing. I did it for 3 years but now I know it's not even worth it and for such people sense is more then perfect. Clean simple and elegant.
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I love Sense 5 too, but I miss the big Gallery widget very much! Don't understand why they threw out so many of the old widgets.

Software - is it that bad?

Tempted to walk into my local 3 shop and pick one up for £399 looks like a great phone and will have better battery than Nexus 5 which is a big thing for me. My issue is the software, is it that bad out of the box say versus a Nexus 4 running on pure Android? Havent played around with custom ROMs but thinking I might have to with this device.
jklondon said:
Tempted to walk into my local 3 shop and pick one up for £399 looks like a great phone and will have better battery than Nexus 5 which is a big thing for me. My issue is the software, is it that bad out of the box say versus a Nexus 4 running on pure Android? Havent played around with custom ROMs but thinking I might have to with this device.
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Im coming from the GNex- which was a pure android experience to the LG G2- and in my opinion the software is fine. I had to apply a theme, which was super easy to get it to look the way I like: but the software doesn't get in my way. the phone is SO customizable that you can make it how you like. The phone is butter smooth and work great for me. I dislike only 2-3 minor things about the phone which can be fixed...
I'm running it stock: no root
caecusscius said:
Im coming from the GNex- which was a pure android experience to the LG G2- and in my opinion the software is fine. I had to apply a theme, which was super easy to get it to look the way I like: but the software doesn't get in my way. the phone is SO customizable that you can make it how you like. The phone is butter smooth and work great for me. I dislike only 2-3 minor things about the phone which can be fixed...
I'm running it stock: no root
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Thanks good to know - very tempted!
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Thanks good to know - very tempted!
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I was used to running cm 10.2 on my lg g pro (the g2 is so much better imo) and the software is fine. I just flashed clean rom and a mod to get rid of the at&t logo and phone volume slider and I can't be happier. I also got rid of the soft buttons and use GMD, I almost never touch the back buttons with the knock on and made nova launcher double tap to lock. Pretty freaking awesome.
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Came from GNex with AOSP ROM and I think LGs ROM is okay. I was expecting worse, but it's not terrible. There is way too much bloat (Verizon), but I will most definitely be install a custom ROM as soon as AOSP ROMs hit the grid. I do like the knock on feature and some other stuff they baked in though.
I have a few apps out of the box that are draining my battery at idle which I will have to figure out.
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Came from GNex with AOSP ROM and I think LGs ROM is okay. I was expecting worse, but it's not terrible. There is way too much bloat (Verizon), but I will most definitely be install a custom ROM as soon as AOSP ROMs hit the grid. I do like the knock on feature and some other stuff they baked in though.
I have a few apps out of the box that are draining my battery at idle which I will have to figure out.
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might help http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2456974
It's not that bad at all. Certainly better than Touchwiz. I actually like this LG UI more than any I've used outside of some of the modded AOSP ROMS (CM, AOKP, PA etc.). It has a few quirks, but nothing that I would consider to be a deal breaker.
I ran tw I ran aokp, I ran cm plus a multitude of kangs of all three including miui.
I am 5 days in and not once got bored,glitches,battery drains. Its got all the customazions I need, except dpi and permissions. I am cured flashaholic. That says a lot about the software coming from an avid flasher
I have been a big fan of cm for some time now and love the stock android look. I may very well install a theme to get this look at some point but I see no real reason to flash or even root at this point.
The software is smooth and customizable. It is heavily skinned in a love it or hate it kind of way, but themes make it far less of an issue.
Hope this helps!
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so no thesoftware is not bad
I like it, it's smooth unlike touchwiz and mostly everything can be changed. Refreshing.
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Came from a nexus 4 and I love the software.
My only wish is that I want more multitasking stuff (like TW's mutiwindow just without the bloat )
yeah multitasking is android 8ssue they implemented window support on an app per app and not os wide basis, thats why not all aps are launchable that way
The LG skin/software is awesome. I really like it. Its fast, fluid, and has many features. example: theme keyboard, theme ui keys, nav ring shortcuts, pop up windows for text and phone calls, etc..
With the nexus 5 predicted to have a 2300mAh battery and a worse camera at £399 it's a cracking deal for the LG G2. I work at 3 and am tempted to take up the deal.
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The skin is more that adequate for anything you want to do. this isnt 2010 where htc sense and samsungs stuff blew ****. everything is great. whether it is motorola or sony's or whoever, they are all fine....
I hate that stock android is taken to the point of god like. its good. just like sense. or touchwiz. stock isnt better than either of them. they will all do the samething. in fact, often these skins on top have more options and are a fresh breath of air from stock
No I love the software on the g2. I had 2 s4's and both lagged and didn't run as well as I wanted it too. Great processor but software bogged it down. I like this phone so far for its software and its beautiful screen. Samsung threw whatever they thought up into tw and it was a lot of junk I personally didn't use nor anyone that I know personally
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OMG why did I just read this thread.. It's going to cost me like 800$.
eitama said:
OMG why did I just read this thread.. It's going to cost me like 800$.
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