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Farewell, my beloved G1.

Well, I just got off the phone with T-Mobile, and they are sending me a replacement G1. Why? My G1 had a wobbly screen. I question whether this is really worth the hours of work I spent in rooting and customizing it and even adding on a ShieldSkin too. But, I know this sounds immensely stupid, but I feel pretty bad about it. Its as if I have bonded or something with my current G1. (and it isn't helping that I am listening to Halo by Beyonce on the radio while I am writing this). I have the choice however once the new phone comes, to choose not to keep that one, but the wobbly screen... is starting to annoy me even though it isn't that big of an issue.

must be the biggest sap on the earth. I went ahead and canceled the order a few minutes ago because I just felt too bad about it.

I hear ya...
My G1 has two dead pixels on the screen that I noticed the second day I had it. I thought about getting a replacement, but I just couldn't bring myself to part with it. I still have it, I just try not to look at the screen in that area when I watch movies or that part of the screen is black. I am actually not sure it would be such a big deal if it was easier to restore. My treo was awesome. Hard Reset, replace it? just hook it up, choose your user name and it was just like your last sync, but I hard reset my G1 once, and won't ever do it again. I had used my backup, thought that it would back up the apps (ie, information and applications) only to find out that it only backed up the app itself, I had to redo all the information in everything.

Well... all my Apps are on my SD card, and I am very familiar with rooting and could probably do it in under 30 minutes if I were to get a refurb phone from T-Mobile... I canceled the order only because, like you, I just couldn't let it go. But, I wonder if that is the right choice, because after looking through the service manual (oops!) I realized that the problem with my G1 really cannot be fixed by me... so I really don't know what I should do.

One thing you hadn't considered is that the screen on your replacement might be wobblier. It's unfortunate that htc went with this swivel-slide design as it joins the two halves very unsecurely. I fear that the problem is a design-level issue, so whether the replacement is better or worse is luck of the draw.

SolemnWishing said:
Well... all my Apps are on my SD card, and I am very familiar with rooting and could probably do it in under 30 minutes if I were to get a refurb phone from T-Mobile... I canceled the order only because, like you, I just couldn't let it go. But, I wonder if that is the right choice, because after looking through the service manual (oops!) I realized that the problem with my G1 really cannot be fixed by me... so I really don't know what I should do.
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well i replaced my black g1 once because of that, but ive noticed, even when you get a new one, over the course of time (a few months) that damn screen will loosen up on you, its done it on both black g1's ive had, and both white g1's ive had

I was considering doing the same...ive only had my G1 for about 2 months now but from what the tmobile rep said they all do that...he showed me his and his does it worst than mine. seeing he could probably get his replaced faster than me but he still dealt with it just says its a minor design flaw..but im still 100% in love with my g1.

My phone started that loose jiggle thing..like when its closed it can separate from the body of the phone like 1/8th of an inch and it droops down lower than it used to as well. I've had mine since about October I think and it just started becoming loose in the last 3 weeks

Yes this is a problem with all G1s due to the swivel design.
An easy temp fix is to stick something (like leftover screen protector material or creatively folded one-sided tape) underneath the screen on the keyboard portion of the phone on the top right corner (if you're holding it upright).

Well, for now I've actually found a cure. What I've done is actually cut out paper in the shape of the arch where the screw is in, I put the paper arches that are slightly bigger than the arch itself in, making sure that it goes under the screw and it stays in. I did one piece of construction paper, and then another piece of construction paper with a layer of tape on it to help it slide better. Now my screen opens and closes tight! Here are some pictures:
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It actually looks pretty good, I really like it. Maybe ill post another guide on how to do it haha

Dust and screen

Hi all,
I have just noticed that I have one single particicle of dust under the glass of the LCD.
I am wondering if someone has experienced anything like that yet or I am the proud owner of the only HD2 in the world with a dust particicle under the screen.
I thought they were assembled in a clean room... in fact the dust particicle it's exactly on the center right of the display... I thought it was a bad pixel but luckily it is not.
Now I am wondering how to remove that. Gonna try some elctrostatic method...

Me to ... only noticed it today when putting on an HTC screen protector. It is to the bottom left under 'phone' on the left softbutton.
The question is ... are they not sealed properly ... or is this something that was trapped during the manufacturing process and subsequently moved. If it is the former ... we have a big problem.
I wonder how HTC approach this under their 2 year warranty ?
If it is sealed ... I assume there is no practical way to get the dust out.
I've had the device since the 11th.
Paul.

pgamble said:
Me to ... only noticed it today when putting on an HTC screen protector. It is to the bottom left under 'phone' on the left softbutton.
The question is ... are they not sealed properly ... or is this something that was trapped during the manufacturing process and subsequently moved. If it is the former ... we have a big problem.
I wonder how HTC approach this under their 2 year warranty ?
If it is sealed ... I assume there is no practical way to get the dust out.
I've had the device since the 11th.
Paul.
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I don't know... let's wait and see. Mine is really near the center of the screen. It seems really strange that it is coming from the outside.
I have the device since the 17th.

Where did you get the screen protector from? and also does that have any effect on using touch screen on the phone?

Bump.
No one else yet report dust problems?
My single particicle is still there and I cannot move it anyway.
No other particicle yet although I am getting nervous and I am starting to see dust particicles everywhere.

I was quite surprised by your report, and keep checking my device for dust. Not found so far (using two weeks, also loose in pocket). Major dust problems would really disappoint me, such a high end product shouldn't have that...

Checking the device for defective pixels/dust under the glass is one of the very first tests I do when I'll eventually get mine.

Could you not just return it to where you bought it?

Hi,
not a dust particle for me, but like a "bubble" in the glass...
I took a picture of it :
its on the left hand side (most of the "dots" here are dust on the screen), there are 3 of them
on the picture it looks like 3 white dots but in reality it's a bubble in or under the screen...
I remember having the same problem you have with my SPV C500 and orange changed it.
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irony17 said:
Hi,
not a dust particle for me, but like a "bubble" in the glass...
I took a picture of it :
its on the left hand side (most of the "dots" here are dust on the screen), there are 3 of them
on the picture it looks like 3 white dots but in reality it's a bubble in or under the screen...
I remember having the same problem you have with my SPV C500 and orange changed it.
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Hi, I have a very similar "bubble" under my HD2 screen. It's right in the bottom right! Got my phone on the 29th. Should I take it back to the shop or contact HTC?

It begins...the usual HTC problems rear their ugly heads!
I have had a dust problem with every single HTC phone I've had all the way back to the original SPV! Damn them!

well... i contacted orange & they will change it (a brand new one)
this pb didn't really disturbed me, but then i read on a forum that a user broke his screen with a very small shock and i thought "this bubble might weaken my screen"
I had a quick chat with HTC regarding this, and the hotliner told me that "this shouldn't be on a brand new phone, it s a hardware issue, please contact your distributor asap & they will change it"

Well you are right... but a single dust particicle means that mine is unique, while yours is common.
By the way... I bought mine from expansys europe giving it back and having it substituted means months.

I'm afraid as previously mentioned, I too have one dust particle ... you are not unique at all
Let us stand tall together and proudly go where no HD2 has gone before ....

HTC are working on a hotfix for this bug, be patient <<joke

Strange ... when I called I was told they had determined it was a hardware problem and they had invested in nanobot technology to seek and consume alien dust organisms.

I have a speck of dust too!
bottom left of the screen.
only had it for 1 day!!!!!

sabrelli said:
I have a speck of dust too!
bottom left of the screen.
only had it for 1 day!!!!!
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I took mine back to the shop only to be told it was caused by me! I was not happy! I kicked off big time. You can clearly see the bubble is under the screen!!!! How the hell could I have done that!
Anyway they eventually agreed to replace the handset but they (o2 uk) have none in stock in any store! When asked when they would receive stock I was told that they don't know!!!! How can they not know? I was so mad. I made then make a note on my paperwork that I came back for a replacement just incase they get funny after the 14 day returns policy.
Im upset as the handset has so many problems -
* Reply to sms takes forever.
* Camera takes pink pictures
* Bubble under the screen (Which is common from what I can tell)
* and now I can see a .5 mm black line at the right hand side of the screen from top to bottom!
I think HTC rushed this phone to market.
To be fair HTC said they would repair the unit but I don't want them taking it apart. It's a brand new phone and I want a replacement.
Rant over

If you had it for only one day, you can ask for a replacement as your not happy with the pinkness of the camera for example.

ad25121048 said:
they (o2 uk) have none in stock in any store! When asked when they would receive stock I was told that they don't know!!!! How can they not know?
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I hesitate to mention it here but I was told by retentions on Friday morning that they're expecting more to hit the shelves this Wednesday...dont tell anyone,there's a good chap,and I might be able to finally get one myself

A wtf over my DHD screen...What should I do?

Hey guys,I just discovered that something has appeared on the upper left corner of my DHD,thankfully over the screen(Look at the attached images).
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It looks like the black whatever-the-hell-it-is behind the screen glass is broken at that point.From what I recall,I have only dropped it one time,but it was from like 40cm onto a wool carpet,so no damage there.The only "experience" that might have something to do with it is that my pal tried to punch me on the leg,and the bastard hit my pocket,where my phone was(the shock I was in was unbelievable!But his hand was aching for like 2 days! ).I cannot know where he hit it,but if it was the upper left corner,then this might be the answer.
I would have known earlier,but I only noticed that some days ago when I watched a movie on my phone in a dark room.In bright light it's not so easily seen.It is,however,annoying to see because it catches my eye(I can't help looking at it when I know it's there)and I am constantly afraid it might expand and cause a serious problem.
Given that there is always the chance it's a manufacturing defect,should I return it?I mean,it's not that big a problem,but it is a flaw in a rather flawless phone!
What would you guys do?Is it worth the trouble?I could always wait and see if it gets worse and get used to it on the way.
Any opinion/help welcome!
EDIT:I forgot to mention that it is only observable when the screen is on,so the light comes from within the device.That's what led me to the conclusion that it's an internal fracture.

Sorry mate but I really can't see **** from your photos. I think you really need to adjust the expose settings on the camera or just use a better camera to begin with... Happy to comment when I can see the problem

Same here man, would love to help but i can't see anything. Better pictures would help.
If some one hit me hard on my leg pfff... If some one hit me hard on my phone, he will be searching for his teeth now....
Jokes apart, it could well do some damage to the phone, it wasn't meant to sustain this abuse on the screen.

Take a better photo where you actually have some back light. I can't see jack in the photos.

I have this too, but to a lesser extent.I don't know what caused this but it was there when I got the phone.It's like a small dot of light leaking.You should take better pictures so we can see better.

At the very least use a paint program to circle what you're trying to show because I'm with the others above and can't see what you're trying to show at all.

Ok,you're all right,pictures are ****,but the only camera I had available atm was my Desire,so you can understand!
Anyway,will take better ones and upload them.Until then,if someone wants to search for the problem,it is a lit scratch-like thing on the upper left corner of the screen's black surrounding!
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

MadeInRu said:
Same here man, would love to help but i can't see anything. Better pictures would help.
If some one hit me hard on my leg pfff... If some one hit me hard on my phone, he will be searching for his teeth now....
Jokes apart, it could well do some damage to the phone, it wasn't meant to sustain this abuse on the screen.
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Well,his hand was in pain for two days and his head for like 5 minutes(second was obviously my work! ),so that's punishment enough I think!
Btw,to avoid misunderstandings,the punch hit the phone's back,probably around the speaker(can't be sure about that though),not the screen(which appears very sturdy btw,doesn't need protection).
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

Well,these shots are taken with my sister's Lumix,I circled the wtf and now I hope you can see it without problems!
Thanks for your replies guys!

It looks like the screen got loose from the main body of the phone a bit. Speaker is less or more on tho opposite side of that place. My best suggestion is it got ''loose'? Not sure if it's the right word. I doubt it's possible to fix it anywhere except at HTC service center man.

I think its the black finish inside is slightly off. I also think I have the same thing but never noticed it till I compared my display to your pics. Honestly, it does not look like a problem.
Sent from my Desire HD

Weird, I had such a problem with my Galaxy S, which has Gorilla glass. It started small, but grew little by little. It even cornered! When you pressed the glass, it became clearer, indicating it was on the inner side of the phone.
My guess: some sort of cutting of the black mask damaged the surface and weakened it.
So I' ve bought a DHD and sent the SGS back for repair under warranty.

archie_658 said:
Weird, I had such a problem with my Galaxy S, which has Gorilla glass. It started small, but grew little by little. It even cornered! When you pressed the glass, it became clearer, indicating it was on the inner side of the phone.
My guess: some sort of cutting of the black mask damaged the surface and weakened it.
So I' ve bought a DHD and sent the SGS back for repair under warranty.
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Well...Holy ****!I can't part with my DHD!Isn't it just better than everything else?
Fun aside,I think I'll leave it as is for now and sent it for warranty repair when I root it(so titanium backup saves everything for me ) or,even better,when I buy a new one.That is,unless it expands and becomes a problem!
Anyway,many thanks guys!
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I've the same problem guys. :-(
I think all the Desire HD have the same problem, and then I don't think it can be solved.
So we will have to live with that "wtf" ...
Excuse my English.
P.S : I'm in France.
You should replace it if you can.

lalgeri1 said:
I've the same problem guys. :-(
I think all the Desire HD have the same problem, and then I don't think it can be solved.
So we will have to live with that "wtf" ...
Excuse my English.
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Well,glad I'm not the only wtf owner!

[Q]Slider problem ?

Hi
I have been using my Xperia Play for 2 weeks and I have noticed that there is a gap between the gamepad and the screen (left side of the phone when in closed mode), which can be widened by lifting the screen. When the phone's closed the gap is around 1 mm but it can widen up to 2mm.
This causes the screen to shake (and sometimes click) and it's really irritating. Is it a problem of all phones or just mine ?
Well, that stupid protection won't allow me to post video...

I had the same problem with my old play. My new one is only 5days old and no gap yet. It is annoying because the phone would keep moving as a type
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So did you send your old Play to the repair centre and they gave you a new one ?
Also, I heard that it is normal for all Plays so this is going to happen inevitably.

Mine is the same. I stuck a few mouse skates on the back of the screen to stabilize it a bit. Works o.k, but screen still has a slight wobble when closed.
The screen wobble is probably the only thing that I can fault with this phone, but I can live with it as long as it doesn't get worse.

Do those mouse skates scratch your gamepad ?
Any other ideas how to make it shake a bit less ?
Can sony ericsson cannot repair that, because I remember that it would not wobble that much ?

I sent my play in for a different issue. The gap is a minor problem that isn't worth fixing, I can live with it
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RossettiX said:
Do those mouse skates scratch your gamepad ?
Any other ideas how to make it shake a bit less ?
Can sony ericsson cannot repair that, because I remember that it would not wobble that much ?
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I dont know if SE would repair it, but if it bothers you too much I guess you could always try to take it back.
I haven't noticed any scratches on the gamepad.
Here's a pic of the back of my play.
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The two top skates were probably a bad idea as they are covering 2 screw hole covers/stickers which could peel off if I decide to take the skates off.
The skate just behind the home button is perfect and has stopped a lot of the wobble when i tap the screen or hit one of the face buttons.

This seems like something sony should have thought of beforehand. It seems all too obvious that this problem is going to happen to every xplay out there. The joints of the sliding mechanism can only be so strong.

Frogybloop said:
This seems like something sony should have thought of beforehand. It seems all too obvious that this problem is going to happen to every xplay out there. The joints of the sliding mechanism can only be so strong.
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The play isn't the first or only phone that slides. I don't have this problem. At least not yet but I'm guessing everyone will at some point.

Dude, the mouse skates idea. I just peeled two off of my old mouse and stuck them on the top back of the screen. Major improvement. Cheers for the tip

Wait, you put them on the top of the screen, just like in the photo ? And the wobbling stopped :> ?
Gotta get some mouse pads

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Wait, you put them on the top of the screen, just like in the photo ? And the wobbling stopped :> ?
Gotta get some mouse pads
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It reduced wobbling, I put another two on at the bottom of the screen and it made the sliding motion a bit stiff. So I took them off.

They should have used a Z Hinge like on the N95 or Desire Z!

Just came up with my own makeshift method for the hinge issue. Only 10 days in and i was already crazy annoyed with how the screen would "give" when i was touching the screen or any of the navigation buttons (especially the back button). I didn't have any spare mice sitting around so i grabbed these things at target that you stick on the bottom of vases or coasters to protect your furnature from scratching (basically small stick on circles of various thicknesses and materials). I found one of a sufficient thickness and cut it down to a size that made sense and stuck it on the two corners of the controller. It still slides perfectly and has rid me of pretty much all problems. Additionally, it doesn't seem to get in the way of gaming. The pix will probably give you a better idea of what im talking about than my explanation.

Oh god this has been discussed over and over and over and over and over.. I even stopped worrying about my XPlay months ago..
I asked SE via facebook a month ago and here's what they have to say:

narflynn619 said:
Oh god this has been discussed over and over and over and over and over.. I even stopped worrying about my XPlay months ago..
I asked SE via facebook a month ago and here's what they have to say:
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Its good to know that SE is aware of this and that the problem wont actually get worse. However it doesn't change the fact that the movement of the screen when typing or pressing the face buttons won't drive me up the wall. In the end though... I bought this phone for its built in game controller...small issues be damned

nice one Frogybloop..
It doesn't bother me in any way. Maybe it really depends on the user/owner. This is, after all, expected in almost all slider phones like my friend's trusty X1 -- it wobbles more than my XPlay. The screen part of my phone is still snugly fit to the edge and do not slide when I'm typing like others report. I can just feel the click it produces when the screen is pressed down when typing. I can live with that. Not a problem to me at all.

Advice on purchasing the Nexus 7

Hi guys,
I plan to purchase this week a Nexus 7 16GB. Based on the reads, the device could have 2 issues: screen lifting and dead pixels. Can you please let me know if the screen lifting was visible when you actually opened the box or it started to pop after a while? I plan to go at local shop and open the case in front of the salesman, to check for those issues.
If you have any other tips I should check for, please let me know (i.e look for a specific build number etc.). Thanks.

TECK said:
Hi guys,
I plan to purchase this week a Nexus 7 16GB. Based on the reads, the device could have 2 issues: screen lifting and dead pixels. Can you please let me know if the screen lifting was visible when you actually opened the box or it started to pop after a while? I plan to go at local shop and open the case in front of the salesman, to check for those issues.
If you have any other tips I should check for, please let me know (i.e look for a specific build number etc.). Thanks.
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That's a little unnecessary in my opinion. Yeah some people had that problem but it was a small percentage and opening it on front of them isn't going to change anything other than the fact that you can return it faster if something IS wrong with it. But I'm guaranteeing there won't be anything wrong with it
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

Ya... the idea is to save time and exchange it right away, in case I'm "lucky" to get one device that might have issues.

I was nervous too. I bought one today and it turned out perfect. I believe you would be able to see the lifting almost immediately .
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Can you please let me know if the screen lifting was visible when you actually opened the box or it started to pop after a while?
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I didn't notice the separation in my first unit for a week. I think it got worse over time, but can't be sure.
My second and third units were more subtle, but because I knew what to look for I was able to spot it straight away. I think that if you get one that's flush out of the box you should be alright.
Go in with some idea about how much lift you're willing to tolerate. If it is only lifted a hair, turn it on and press firmly on the left side of the display to see if there's any distortion. Listen for any sticking or clicking sounds. I'm not convinced that the most insignificant amount of lift will inevitably lead to problems down the road, and in hindsight my second unit was good enough to keep. The third was lifted enough to ripple when pressed in the raised area.
The most effective way to test for screen lift is to hold the device with the right side facing you. Look across the display and use the left bezel as a silver horizon line. If the black display is higher than that line at any point, you'll be able to see it.
Here is an example of a perfectly flush display, looking across the device from the right side.
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I did more research, might help others on checking the tablet. So far, the main issues that will bother me are:
1) Screen lifting, follow pxlitup's tip or run your finger across the edge where it meets the silver bezel.
2) Blur or trailing, while viewing the Applications screen see if the icons lag or leave a trail behind when you flip through.
3) Color gamut, mainly Green or Yellow tint due to low quality Hydis IPS LCD displays.
4) Bad solder joint, set the brightness to the lowest to second lowest level, open Google Maps and scroll around to see if the display fluctuates or flickers.
I think I'm going to wait for the new Sharp IPS LCD display, they plan to use it into next batches. If anyone has any inside related to the Sharp screens, please share it with us. Thank you.

hic9582 said:
That's a little unnecessary in my opinion. Yeah some people had that problem but it was a small percentage and opening it on front of them isn't going to change anything other than the fact that you can return it faster if something IS wrong with it. But I'm guaranteeing there won't be anything wrong with it
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Who are you to guarantee that? I've gotten five defective Nexus 7s in a row...so far... It's not that small of a percentage dude. You were just lucky to get a good one haha.