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New design on case. Cracks no more!!!

Don't know if this is old news but I just have to speak out my joy. Got my phone back after replacing my case the second time. And finally they have redesigned the case. Hopfully there will be no more cracks on this spot anymore
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what awful crack!...

Strange that the "new" redesigned case has date of manufacture -> 08w39 and the "old" cracked one is -> 08w44... Could it be that they knew it all the time that these cracks will be happening, but instead of mass recall the "cracky" cases they sold all of that saying "What will be will be...."

kaitosan said:
Strange that the "new" redesigned case has date of manufacture -> 08w39 and the "old" cracked one is -> 08w44... Could it be that they knew it all the time that these cracks will be happening, but instead of mass recall the "cracky" cases they sold all of that saying "What will be will be...."
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Thats because it is a sticker on the phone. Not the case.

somehow i dont think its the redesign issue, something else thats unknown must be the problem, my xperia date is 09W08 with the same design as the second pic, still no cracks...

Uh... where's the difference in the design? Can't really tell.

Had a crack in the same place, and now also have the "new" redesign case replacement.

MattKeating said:
Had a crack in the same place, and now also have the "new" redesign case replacement.
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When was this?

ipporek said:
Uh... where's the difference in the design? Can't really tell.
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No sharp corner in the new design. The first thing you learn to not have when you study design. Everyone learns that except the tossers at SE

Paitor said:
No sharp corner in the new design. The first thing you learn to not have when you study design. Everyone learns that except the tossers at SE
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yeah bro SE has the worst designs...

Does somebody have the old design on pic without the crack so it will be easier to see?
Edit: Fixed it. Nobody can miss the difference now.

if you look closely you can see the difference. the corner where the crack starts is different from the one without the crack. the corner is filleted (ie. rounded) where as the corner with the crack is pointed.
i was gonna wait before i send my x1 to get the housing replaced. i didn't see why people would send the phone in for repairs when SE haven't even come up with a redesigned housing yet and just end up getting cracks all over again. but now, it seems like a good time to do so. btw, i've counted a total of 8 cracks on my x1.

azian_advanced said:
if you look closely you can see the difference. the corner where the crack starts is different from the one without the crack. the corner is filleted (ie. rounded) where as the corner with the crack is pointed.
i was gonna wait before i send my x1 to get the housing replaced. i didn't see why people would send the phone in for repairs when SE haven't even come up with a redesigned housing yet and just end up getting cracks all over again. but now, it seems like a good time to do so. btw, i've counted a total of 8 cracks on my x1.
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Good choice. This was my second time I had it on service for a cracked case and if you put it all togehter (had it on service three times) I have had my phone on service for 63 days. That's 2 months on a phone that isn't a year old yet.

time to repair
I have the problem where my phone won't charge unless it's turned off.
But now I also have the cracked case problem.... So I think it is time to repair.
I really love the phone... but at that price, I expect better quality. I just hope they don't keep it too long.

spikegotti said:
somehow i dont think its the redesign issue, something else thats unknown must be the problem, my xperia date is 09W08 with the same design as the second pic, still no cracks...
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When did u purchase ur X1...!!!
Even im Curious to purchase a Black X1 , and when ever i see the issues of cracks i step back.
Waiting for ur advise and suggestions .
Plz guide me coz after such an investment issue's like cracks will be very troublesome.
Thanx
JackBenson

looks like I have the "old" design and no cracks in almost 5 months

lol I see no difference whatsoever. BTW, your's new Xperia has chrome chipping off of it.

poetryrocksalot said:
lol I see no difference whatsoever. BTW, your's new Xperia has chrome chipping off of it.
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It is two pictures of two old xperia phones. One pic that i found on this forum and one that i shoot of mine, with the new case, in almost the same angel so it would be easy to see the difference.
It amazes me that you cant see the rounded corner in the middle of the lower picture

DatDereX1 said:
looks like I have the "old" design and no cracks in almost 5 months
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You are a lucky man. Please tell my how you do it. Is your phone always lying on a pillow on your desk with a bluetooth headset connected to it? Have you not even once dropped it 2 decimeters onto a soft rug?

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You are a lucky man. Please tell my how you do it. Is your phone always lying on a pillow on your desk with a bluetooth headset connected to it? Have you not even once dropped it 2 decimeters onto a soft rug?
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I have the old design.
I have dropped mine more than 10 times. 3 of them hard falls. Not a crack or a scratch on it. I use it all the time, in my pocket, on the desk, in my hand, etc.

Does your screen wobble when the keyboard is out?

I'm that my screen seems loose when my keyboard is out. I'm wondering if this is just how sliders are, since this is the first slider phone i've owned. I've had the phone for 2 days. If its a manufacturing defect, I want to get it exchanged.
I went to the sprint store to check the display models, none of them had any screen wobble. But the store manager's phone did have a screen that wobbled when slid out, so he refused to exchange mine. He claims that my keyboard has been used more than the store demo models. I think thats a load of bs...
Is it normal for the screen to wobble when the keyboard is out? I'm talking about an audible rattle when i tilt my phone toward me about 1 inch...

Yes, mine does that too.

no rattle here

Yeah. Mine has that features too but I would assume this is just something having to do with the application of the slider, but I don't think it is worth worrying about. But of course I am no expert...
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I don't understand wobble. Side to side? Or against the spring?
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a454nova said:
I don't understand wobble. Side to side? Or against the spring?
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If you're holding your phone like you would use it normally. And then tilt the screen toward you about 1 inch. My screen will move and make a noise. If i tilt it back, it moves back and makes a noise. =/

Yes, mine has developed a wobble as well. When holding the keyboard and moving the phone up and down vertically, I can feel the screen wobbles.
Also, when keyboard is closed, various parts of the touchscreen feels loose. Especially noticeable in landscape - i.e. when playing angry birds. when I tap on screen, the screen has depresses / has some play.
I don't think my phone had the wobble on day 1, so this is something that developed. Since it's only been 3 days, I'll be looking into getting it replaced.

Its the nature of the beast. It will also loosen up through time too. Don't want to worry about that? Get a candybar or pda style phone with no moving parts.

herbthehammer said:
Its the nature of the beast. It will also loosen up through time too. Don't want to worry about that? Get a candybar or pda style phone with no moving parts.
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Couldn't have said it any better myself.

No problems here my slider is rock solid which is awesome considering im coming from a palm pre with super oreo.

Mostly i'm just concerned that if the slider has loosened soo much in 2 days of very light use, how will it last 2 years?
Has anyone ever had a case of a slider phone breaking in half? lol
or becoming so loose that its unusable?

icantdrawanime said:
Mostly i'm just concerned that if the slider has loosened soo much in 2 days of very light use, how will it last 2 years?
Has anyone ever had a case of a slider phone breaking in half? lol
or becoming so loose that its unusable?
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This is my fourth slider phone. They always loosen up a bit, but the device will be fine. If you really, REALLY can't live with it, bring it in for a new one every once in a while... that's what insurance is for. Or take it apart and tighten it up yourself. I did that with my Mogul and it wasn't too hard.
P.S. The poll is flawed. The answer is either yes or no.

icantdrawanime said:
Has anyone ever had a case of a slider phone breaking in half? lol
or becoming so loose that its unusable?
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The worst case I've heard of or seen personally was with the Pre. Mine had a slight wiggle that I could live with, but I heard of some twisting so far that the screen was at a 90 degree angle to the keypad. If you google "Palm Pre Oreo" you'll see some examples. Here's one I found in a quick search.
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My Epic has a slight wobble that I was worried about (especially after coming from the Pre)...but if that many other people are experiencing the same thing I'm going to assume that it's normal.

A case helps in my opinion to keep the sliding mechanism in place. Mine doesn't wobble as much as a nude epic.
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bigray327 said:
If you really, REALLY can't live with it, bring it in for a new one every once in a while... that's what insurance is for. Or take it apart and tighten it up yourself. I did that with my Mogul and it wasn't too hard.
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Bring it in, DON'T take it apart yourself. From what the tech bulletins have mentioned, a special jig is required to put the phone back together. Let the Sprint techs handle it and let them take the risk.

me and my wife both got epics the same day, hers wobbles and mine doesn't and believe me it wobbled from day one, she don't even use the keyboard, I just noticed it when I slid it out to help set her phone up for her, I figured maybe mine doesn't do it because I hae a case but mine was rock solid and I've used the keyboard a lot more than her. I think maybe hers gets returned within the 30 days.

Wobbly screens are not normal. Lol Mine is rock solid. But hey, maybe mine is abnormal?

Wow I just tested my wobble vs my girlfriends epic and hers is rock solid. I'm getting an exchange.
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My Epic is rock solid. Doesn't budge unless I actually force it with my hand.. and even then it doesn't "make a noise."

Went to a sprint store today to return a case, and checked out the epics they had on display. Mine has a very slight amount of wiggle, and showed it to tech there. The tech and i went over the 4 they had on display, all of them had a little bit of wiggle, with one not having much at all. He said all sliders will have a little bit, but if it turns into a lot you have a year to exchange, since the phone has a 1 year warranty. If they get a lot of complaints, they turn it into samsung as a "known issue" but than its up to samsung to issue a fix or say that its normal. This is coming from a tech at Sprint Premiere repair center.
But honestly, almost every slider phone or device ive had, has a little bit of wiggle when its open. I just bought a Tivo Slide remote control, and when you open that it wiggles in the exact same way the epic does. It has the same spring loaded action to it as well. My droids (i had 3 of them) all had it too.
I just think its the nature of the sliders. Obviously if its abnormally loose you should exchange, but if it just wiggles a little bit, chances are exchanging it will be diffucult depending on the tech you talk to, and also, the new phone isnt guaranteed to wiggle any less.
Just my .2 cents i suppose

A wtf over my DHD screen...What should I do?

Hey guys,I just discovered that something has appeared on the upper left corner of my DHD,thankfully over the screen(Look at the attached images).
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It looks like the black whatever-the-hell-it-is behind the screen glass is broken at that point.From what I recall,I have only dropped it one time,but it was from like 40cm onto a wool carpet,so no damage there.The only "experience" that might have something to do with it is that my pal tried to punch me on the leg,and the bastard hit my pocket,where my phone was(the shock I was in was unbelievable!But his hand was aching for like 2 days! ).I cannot know where he hit it,but if it was the upper left corner,then this might be the answer.
I would have known earlier,but I only noticed that some days ago when I watched a movie on my phone in a dark room.In bright light it's not so easily seen.It is,however,annoying to see because it catches my eye(I can't help looking at it when I know it's there)and I am constantly afraid it might expand and cause a serious problem.
Given that there is always the chance it's a manufacturing defect,should I return it?I mean,it's not that big a problem,but it is a flaw in a rather flawless phone!
What would you guys do?Is it worth the trouble?I could always wait and see if it gets worse and get used to it on the way.
Any opinion/help welcome!
EDIT:I forgot to mention that it is only observable when the screen is on,so the light comes from within the device.That's what led me to the conclusion that it's an internal fracture.

Sorry mate but I really can't see **** from your photos. I think you really need to adjust the expose settings on the camera or just use a better camera to begin with... Happy to comment when I can see the problem

Same here man, would love to help but i can't see anything. Better pictures would help.
If some one hit me hard on my leg pfff... If some one hit me hard on my phone, he will be searching for his teeth now....
Jokes apart, it could well do some damage to the phone, it wasn't meant to sustain this abuse on the screen.

Take a better photo where you actually have some back light. I can't see jack in the photos.

I have this too, but to a lesser extent.I don't know what caused this but it was there when I got the phone.It's like a small dot of light leaking.You should take better pictures so we can see better.

At the very least use a paint program to circle what you're trying to show because I'm with the others above and can't see what you're trying to show at all.

Ok,you're all right,pictures are ****,but the only camera I had available atm was my Desire,so you can understand!
Anyway,will take better ones and upload them.Until then,if someone wants to search for the problem,it is a lit scratch-like thing on the upper left corner of the screen's black surrounding!
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MadeInRu said:
Same here man, would love to help but i can't see anything. Better pictures would help.
If some one hit me hard on my leg pfff... If some one hit me hard on my phone, he will be searching for his teeth now....
Jokes apart, it could well do some damage to the phone, it wasn't meant to sustain this abuse on the screen.
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Well,his hand was in pain for two days and his head for like 5 minutes(second was obviously my work! ),so that's punishment enough I think!
Btw,to avoid misunderstandings,the punch hit the phone's back,probably around the speaker(can't be sure about that though),not the screen(which appears very sturdy btw,doesn't need protection).
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Well,these shots are taken with my sister's Lumix,I circled the wtf and now I hope you can see it without problems!
Thanks for your replies guys!

It looks like the screen got loose from the main body of the phone a bit. Speaker is less or more on tho opposite side of that place. My best suggestion is it got ''loose'? Not sure if it's the right word. I doubt it's possible to fix it anywhere except at HTC service center man.

I think its the black finish inside is slightly off. I also think I have the same thing but never noticed it till I compared my display to your pics. Honestly, it does not look like a problem.
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Weird, I had such a problem with my Galaxy S, which has Gorilla glass. It started small, but grew little by little. It even cornered! When you pressed the glass, it became clearer, indicating it was on the inner side of the phone.
My guess: some sort of cutting of the black mask damaged the surface and weakened it.
So I' ve bought a DHD and sent the SGS back for repair under warranty.

archie_658 said:
Weird, I had such a problem with my Galaxy S, which has Gorilla glass. It started small, but grew little by little. It even cornered! When you pressed the glass, it became clearer, indicating it was on the inner side of the phone.
My guess: some sort of cutting of the black mask damaged the surface and weakened it.
So I' ve bought a DHD and sent the SGS back for repair under warranty.
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Well...Holy ****!I can't part with my DHD!Isn't it just better than everything else?
Fun aside,I think I'll leave it as is for now and sent it for warranty repair when I root it(so titanium backup saves everything for me ) or,even better,when I buy a new one.That is,unless it expands and becomes a problem!
Anyway,many thanks guys!
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I've the same problem guys. :-(
I think all the Desire HD have the same problem, and then I don't think it can be solved.
So we will have to live with that "wtf" ...
Excuse my English.
P.S : I'm in France.
You should replace it if you can.

lalgeri1 said:
I've the same problem guys. :-(
I think all the Desire HD have the same problem, and then I don't think it can be solved.
So we will have to live with that "wtf" ...
Excuse my English.
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Well,glad I'm not the only wtf owner!

[Q] Shake your Xperia Play

Hey Folks
As a nooby I must admit I'm quite intimidated by the video I was subjected to at registration but I've worked up the courage to start up a new thread
My Xperia play has an audible rattle when it is shook even lightly.I'm trying to firgure out what this is as it does not happen to my brothers.Another thing is that there is no rattle when the phone is open in controller mode but only when it is closed.
I'm wondering if this is normal with x amount of phones or whether or not its dodgy.It must be something to do with the hinges as far as I can see because it does not make a sound when it is open.Any response would be greatly appreciated
I've seen a thread similar to this on these forums as I've been lurking for a while.I'm just wondering how common if at all common is this?

If I shake mine up&down fast enough, it makes a small rattle. Doesn't seem harmful, and my phone's been working perfectly for months.

Gave mine a little shake up and down and it rattles a little. My phone is fine. Never noticed because I never shaked it before.
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Yep, mine rattles when the gamepad is closed, but doesn't when it's open. It sounded like it could be the buttons but I shook it while holding different variations (of buttons) but it still rattles. It must be something inside that becomes taut when you open the gamepad.
Out of interest, why were you shaking your phone?
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Also, I don't have to shake it much, and it rattles when shook in any direction, more so when up and down though.
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Has anybody else noticed that, whilst typing, the two halves of the phone sometimes hit against each other?

Hey guys thanks for the replies.
I always get all ocd with my new gadgets .I wasn't sure if this was a widespread minor annoyance or a defected handset.I got a flashlight widget which requires a shake to switch on and off so that's how I discovered it.
To milkyJoe.that problem drove me absolutely insane so I had to come up with a solution.i'll post it tomorrow when i've more time pal

MilkyJoePD said:
Has anybody else noticed that, whilst typing, the two halves of the phone sometimes hit against each other?
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Yeah mine does that, annoys the hell out of me. I thought about going into Verizon and seeing if they can do anything. My screen half has become more loose than I think is acceptable.
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there was a thread about this a while back and i think that they found out the reason it does this is because of a cable or a loose piece of plastic in all xperia plays. it's perfectly normal and nothing is wrong.

MilkyJoePD said:
Yep, mine rattles when the gamepad is closed, but doesn't when it's open. It sounded like it could be the buttons but I shook it while holding different variations (of buttons) but it still rattles. It must be something inside that becomes taught when you open the gamepad.
Out of interest, why were you shaking your phone?
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Same here!

Whats more important is the fact that the slide mechanism scratches the deck pad near the select button after repeated open and close
It's a manufacturing defect and I've seen it twice on 2 different models of Xperia
So I know it's not a coincidence.
My newest one has a rubber protector over it I made to stop the scratching and the "jiggle" the OP is talking about
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xrishox said:
there was a thread about this a while back and i think that they found out the reason it does this is because of a cable or a loose piece of plastic in all xperia plays. it's perfectly normal and nothing is wrong.
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hell it could be the loose end of the hdmi port sony decided to cut off

I thought that would be the gyroscopic sensor, isn't it like a little ball or something?
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Patient: My arm hurts when I hold it over my head like this.
Doctor: Don't do that...

Do you not feel that having a rattling phone makes it feel cheap

Hogwarts said:
Whats more important is the fact that the slide mechanism scratches the deck pad near the select button after repeated open and close
It's a manufacturing defect and I've seen it twice on 2 different models of Xperia
So I know it's not a coincidence.
My newest one has a rubber protector over it I made to stop the scratching and the "jiggle" the OP is talking about
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Man that is genius! I should look into that, although I haven't really gotten any scratches from the slider yet and I've had it since June.

I took it apart thoroughly and there are several loose parts inside, but I'm pretty sure it's the power/lock button. The flat cable that slides is not going to make a sound like that and the headphone jack and front-camera didn't seem nearly as problematic.
Hogwarts said:
Whats more important is the fact that the slide mechanism scratches the deck pad near the select button after repeated open and close
It's a manufacturing defect and I've seen it twice on 2 different models of Xperia
So I know it's not a coincidence.
My newest one has a rubber protector over it I made to stop the scratching and the "jiggle" the OP is talking about
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On my third one and I just put clear tape over it. My first one didn't show wear nearly as fast. I disassembled the second and saw that the Teflon (or whatever it is) dome nub/button was kinda creased and had collected contamination, though the damage was already visible while the phone was otherwise pristine and new (hardly even a speck of pocket lint!). It wipes right off and, honestly, I think it was the metallic paint that it was scrubbing off and not externally acquired dirt or dust. My second one also quickly developed a scratch on the underside of the top piece from a screw on the bottom that was screwed in too far and protruding. This was before I took it apart, so I am not to blame!

Fix for build quality issues.

I just received my HTC One developer edition, and like others, there are some build quality issues, most notably the screen is not lined up with the rest of the front of the phone (ie, you can feel the screen glass grabbing your finger when you swipe down to pull the notifications panel)
It was not too bad of an issue when comparing to others from YouTube, also I bought the phone from HTC, so there is no way for me to exchange it at AT&T.
So I decided to fix it.
- Heat up the screen with a heat gun on low or a hair dryer on high. Make sure you keep on moving the heat source in figure 8 and keep the heat source around 10 inches away from the screen. Do this for around 5 minutes, the phone needs to be hot, uncomfortable to hold, but still you should be able to hold it with your bare hands.
- Protect the screen and back of the phone. Clamp the top of the screen. Wait for the phone to cool. Release the clamps.
This worked wonderfully for me, the screen is now flush with the body, I can't feel it when I run my finger on the edge between the screen and the body.
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I'm going to have to try this--I didn't want to send my phone back to AT&T because that would be a hassle but at the same time I really hated how i could feel the little lip every time I pulled down the notification shade.

Thank god I don't have this issue, this is way too crazy of a fix for me O_O

Good fix thanks for posting. This is what ifixit actually does to remove the screen. Hot air melts the glue so you can take off the screen or adjust it.
A sidenote: If you heat the phone up too much the battery degrades so be careful.

Too bad there wasn't an easy fix like yours to my dev edition defect. No way to solve bleed issues apart from sending it back for a replacement.
Good for you. Self-help never hurts. Cheers!
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This isn't a fix for all build quality issues.. one fix for the gap inbetween bezel and speaker grills is put a TPU case on it. It will squeeze it together and make the gap go away.
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well im on my second one right now you can feel the screen glass grabbing your finger when you swipe down to pull the notifications panel on both of them i don't even know if i should exchange again, but it feel like the screen is about to cut my finger, when swiping down its really anoying

I take it hose clamps are pretty strong? seems like they'd have to be to squish that glass back down. Dont know if my walmart plastic clamp kit will do it Thanks for sharing

...This is a rather extreme fix.

i just pressed mine in really hard with my hands

This is similar to how we fixed the early Nexus 7s. Asus had issues with the left hand side of the screen being proud of the bezel. The fix was to warm the periphery of the screen to re-soften the adhesive and then place heavy books on the screen and leave for a few hours... worked a treat.
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I think I will try this before I bother with AT&T. I just hate having to deal with them for anything at all.

Thanks for the how to. Worked perfectly!

cachookaman said:
i just pressed mine in really hard with my hands
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lol just asking for it to crack

This improved things on my "One" as well.
now if I could just get something to close the minor gaps between the speaker grills and the plastic..
I'm thinking about using a bit of krazy glue and working it into the opening and putting my clamps back on until it dries.
This phone will be close to perfect, even if I have to help it along myself

Andrmgic said:
This improved things on my "One" as well.
now if I could just get something to close the minor gaps between the speaker grills and the plastic..
I'm thinking about using a bit of krazy glue and working it into the opening and putting my clamps back on until it dries.
This phone will be close to perfect, even if I have to help it along myself
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Let me know if this works for you. I was thinking the same thing.
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billyapd21 said:
Let me know if this works for you. I was thinking the same thing.
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WOW...Let me know how that works also. I'm trying to not let the small gap bother me, but i'm worried over time that dirt or moisture will get in there and mess some things up. The issue comes from the speakers not being part of the 1 solid piece of aluminum but are snapped on later. This is why in the drop tests the speakers came off on some of them.

going to grab some toothpicks + krazy glue on the way home and see what can be done about the gaps.
Thanks to the procedure in the OP, my glass is now flush with the speaker grill on the top of the device. Much more pleasant to pull down the notification shade now.
Trying to do the same with the lower speaker grill, but it's not as big a deal as the top one.

Nice. Will have to pick up some clamps from Home Depot...I do definitely feel the overhang when pulling the noti shade. You know over extended use, the grime from our fingers will deposit there. ugh
Hope I dont shatter the screen.. lol.

The top and bottom speaker grills are glued on as well so they might not have let them set long enough causing that seperation. As for the light bleed sheesh , im sure theyre rushing to meet demand, but what good does it do if they deliver an inferior product
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