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[Q] Tighten Slider Mechanism??

I dropped my Epic yesterday (luckily not a scratch) but now I feel the slider a bit loose from the left side. You can lift it 1-2mm from the left side if held in portrait mode, but right side still sturdy. Its a but annoying to type since it wobbles a bit and makes some clicking sound when open. Just wanted to ask if anyone has or seen a teardown of the Epic to see if there is a way to tighten the slider a bit??
**cmon ex Pre users... u know how it feels**
Thanx

Mine does it a tad bit as well. Never dropped, but I think the case may be causing it to losen up a bit.

Mine does the same thing. Only had it 4th days and it's got some serious wobble. Definitely wish it felt more sturdy, ala moto droid

what your feeling seems to be what most epic users are having. I wish they made the slide as sturdy as the TP2 slide was. Man that thing was strong! My old epic had the same kind of movement right out of the box, I recently got another one and it is not too bad but I am sure over time it will loosen up again.

The build quality is really on the "meh" side. My first Epic had screen wobble after a week and the screen glass raising up above the bezel on the left side. My replacement (brand new) had screen wobble out of the box and again the glass on the left side of the screen is raising up slightly above the bezel. You can slide it open, press on the glass on the left side and literally see it move back down into the bezel. The stores display model had a tight screen and the glass was set into the bezel on both sides. Not in the mood to go on a replacement spree. I pay insurance so I am waiting to see if it gets any worse over time.
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Styckx,
from a employee's perspective, you'd have a MUCH better experience if you swap them out immediately until you get a perfect handset. The longer the wait between replacements, the more likely it is for the following:
The rep forgets you. Sounds silly, but dealing with one rep/store makes it more likely they go the extra mile for you. For example, replacing the epic with a new one, instead of a refurb.
They decide it's not a replaceable issue and tell you to go through insurance and pay the $100 deductible if you feel the need to replace it.
It gets worse and worse until you finally decide to head to the store, and they tell you it's now considered physical damage and refer you to Asurion.
I can't tell you how many loose charging ports or slides we saved from being *broken* phones by catching it early. Big difference.

no luck finding a useful teardown to see if there is an easy way to access the slider and see if you can just grip it a little so its tighter...
can the tach at sprint take a look at it?? Im past my 30 days and im not looking for a replacement... just enough for it to stop making sounds when i type while walking...

The screen rides on rails. If you have ever taken apart a semi auto handgun then you would know what i am talking about. Only way to tighten them up would be to squeeze the female end of the rails which is on the keyboard part of the phone.
See attatched pic for disassembly.
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sultan.of.swing said:
The screen rides on rails. If you have ever taken apart a semi auto handgun then you would know what i am talking about. Only way to tighten them up would be to squeeze the female end of the rails which is on the keyboard part of the phone.
See attatched pic for disassembly.
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that pic is saddeneing.... lol
but thats exactly what im looking to do. i want to see if there was an easy way to have it exposed so i can tighten it... i know that if i get to it, i can make the adjustments to make it rock solid, what worries me is the teardown part

sultan.of.swing said:
The screen rides on rails. If you have ever taken apart a semi auto handgun then you would know what i am talking about. Only way to tighten them up would be to squeeze the female end of the rails which is on the keyboard part of the phone.
See attatched pic for disassembly.
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Tht pic reminded me of micheal vick -_-

Wow that doesnt look pretty. It looks like it was in a car accident or ran over lol

jbadboy2007 said:
Wow that doesnt look pretty. It looks like it was in a car accident or ran over lol
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Ran over
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did you figure out how to tighten it? I have the same problem. My became loose because I was trying to pry out a case I put on. It's not exactly loose, but it bugs me that there's a 1mm gap between the screen and keyboard.

Sultan, can you take pictures of the back of the phone as well?
If you could demo a "teardown" on that (what else do you have to lose?) and figure out how to safely tighten the railing, that'd be great.
I don't know if it would be possible so if there's any brave or rich soul out there willing to attempt, many of us will be grateful.

I've had my phone for about 8 days now and I noticed the wobble as soon as I took it out of the box. If I have my palm on the bottom right corner and then try to click something in the upper left corner, the screen rocks back and forth. Annoying.
I got it at best buy. not sure if I want to go through the hassle of unrooting and getting a new phone just for a minor wobble. Can you just take it back and say you want a new one? I've never done it before...

I had to send that one back to assurion. Sorry guys.
But from what i saw if you could somehow tighten the rails then it will work.
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I took my epic back to best buys cause of screen wobble. They didnt have a problem at all. I just told them to compare it with other epics they had in stock.

how hard was to put a couple of magnets to the phone? get in and look at my idea...

So I was asking to myself.... how hard could have been? I also thought... is common sense the the phone needed some kind of mechanism to lock the phone when closed and opened, right?
Well, then after thinking I came to a conclusion that well we, users could get creative and do something about it, so I went into a quest looking for the smallest and thinness magnet I could find and I came across magnets that are only 1/32" thick.... now... I thought if I could find a way to cleanly attach them to the phone in places that I already have thought of ( will show tomorrow when I get to my computer ) and would be the least visible.
What do you guys think? Any ideas about attaching the magnets?

Juan I have been looking for magnets, and finding the ideal location....there was a thread a while back regarding tape on the inside between the ribbon and the "z" leg.....I like this idea, but my concern is over GPS use. I'm sure one ca calibrate the bearings, but not sure how it would affect GPS signal....
Please post pics and experiences...really interested in doing this myself, as TMO will no stand by the defective hinge...sorry "design feature"!

juanshop said:
So I was asking to myself.... how hard could have been? I also thought... is common sense the the phone needed some kind of mechanism to lock the phone when closed and opened, right?
Well, then after thinking I came to a conclusion that well we, users could get creative and do something about it, so I went into a quest looking for the smallest and thinness magnet I could find and I came across magnets that are only 1/32" thick.... now... I thought if I could find a way to cleanly attach them to the phone in places that I already have thought of ( will show tomorrow when I get to my computer ) and would be the least visible.
What do you guys think? Any ideas about attaching the magnets?
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I posted a pretty detailed post in the accessories forum. You might want to look at the "hinge fix" thread over there.

Magnets might interfere with the compass

Look into how the magnets might effect your signal a well.
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That's why I'm going to buy the magnets and do tests and see how much will interfere with the phone. So if anyone of you guys is interested, I will keep y'all posted.
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juanshop said:
That's why I'm going to buy the magnets and do tests and see how much will interfere with the phone. So if anyone of you guys is interested, I will keep y'all posted.
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I could swear I saw what looked like magnets on the display g2's at the tmobile stores I went to this week. They all looked like they had a small strip of magnets on each side by the hinge (on the under side of the screen and the body).
Maybe it was just a display model thing, but the phones were active demos.

this is exactly what i was thinking about doing but there seems to be to many problems with compass gps and possibly mememory loss if only there was a way to magetize the ones already in there

I personally think I see an easier way.
I'm going to try to attach a tiny piece of felt to the side of the Z hinge so it wedges a little more securely inside the recessed area on the top of the screen.
Open your keyboard, and you'll see where the hinge arms sit inside the recessed areas with small 1mm or so gaps on either side.
I think it'll work...

we need velcro
Keep us updated with your progress

I just picked up a package of (2) 5x8 inch magnetic sheets (self adhesive). The cost was under $2.
It is super thin (looking for my digital calipers, but I would guess 1/32 or thinner. Im going to give this a try and post some pics if it works well. If it works, this should be enough magnetic sheet to fix every G2 produced by HTC this year.
Well, I have found no ill effects of the magnetic material and it WORKS... I can now hold the phone upside down, sideways, backwards, etc. Of course if you shake it, it will open. But it will not open or close during natural use.
Took about 2 minutes to do, cost under $2 and I could do another 100 phones with the material I have.
Here are the pics:
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How the F do magnets work, anyway?

im worried about putting magnets near a hard drive or radio.
What about rubber bands of some sort, such that when screen is fully out they lock, but otherwise snap back?

carlsbad0331 said:
I just picked up a package of (2) 5x8 inch magnetic sheets (self adhesive). The cost was under $2.
It is super thin (looking for my digital calipers, but I would guess 1/32 or thinner. Im going to give this a try and post some pics if it works well. If it works, this should be enough magnetic sheet to fix every G2 produced by HTC this year.
Well, I have found no ill effects of the magnetic material and it WORKS... I can now hold the phone upside down, sideways, backwards, etc. Of course if you shake it, it will open. But it will not open or close during natural use.
Took about 2 minutes to do, cost under $2 and I could do another 100 phones with the material I have.
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exellent! exellent!!!! just what i had in mind! that was exactly my plan, now, here, the same can be applied here ( i dont see on the pics but did you applied for when the phone is open or closed? or both? if is only when the phone is closed, well look at my picture, is paint quality LOL but i think it can be understood, with the magnets aldeady on the back of the screen, a couple of other magnets can be placed on the red area of the picture, thats a perfect area because there's an indentation there, and a little piece there would not affect the keyboard at all.
pd: info on where you got that material would be awesome, thanks!
pd2: i will do my own too and try different things and test the phone for at least a couple of weeks and see whats happens, also i will let you guys know the end results, i have insurance on my phone so if something happens i can get a new one on the way
pd3: i read for the phone to be affected by magnetic fields, it has to be a really powerful magnet, just look at other phones with magnets in the market... they seem perfectly fine.

I only did this for when the phone is open. Ive never had the phone open from the closed position.
I picked up the package of magnetic sheet at Target. It was in the craft section in a purple plastic envelope. It is made by Horizon Group USA and the SKU number is 765940168059.

going there right now!

Just an FYI, all 3 of my old Sidekicks had magnets so they won't interfere with cell or GPS signal. I am unsure about the compass however. I was considering a similar idea as well only with a couple tiny round silver magnets on the bottom section tops corners and screen section middle sides.

Sorry for this off topic but, why is your phone so shiny? like a polished metalic grey. Looks actually very nice. Polished? full skin?

Most likely took picture using a flash so we could see the magnets
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And like always my local target doesn't have any gonna try Walmart.
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[Q]Slider problem ?

Hi
I have been using my Xperia Play for 2 weeks and I have noticed that there is a gap between the gamepad and the screen (left side of the phone when in closed mode), which can be widened by lifting the screen. When the phone's closed the gap is around 1 mm but it can widen up to 2mm.
This causes the screen to shake (and sometimes click) and it's really irritating. Is it a problem of all phones or just mine ?
Well, that stupid protection won't allow me to post video...

I had the same problem with my old play. My new one is only 5days old and no gap yet. It is annoying because the phone would keep moving as a type
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So did you send your old Play to the repair centre and they gave you a new one ?
Also, I heard that it is normal for all Plays so this is going to happen inevitably.

Mine is the same. I stuck a few mouse skates on the back of the screen to stabilize it a bit. Works o.k, but screen still has a slight wobble when closed.
The screen wobble is probably the only thing that I can fault with this phone, but I can live with it as long as it doesn't get worse.

Do those mouse skates scratch your gamepad ?
Any other ideas how to make it shake a bit less ?
Can sony ericsson cannot repair that, because I remember that it would not wobble that much ?

I sent my play in for a different issue. The gap is a minor problem that isn't worth fixing, I can live with it
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RossettiX said:
Do those mouse skates scratch your gamepad ?
Any other ideas how to make it shake a bit less ?
Can sony ericsson cannot repair that, because I remember that it would not wobble that much ?
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I dont know if SE would repair it, but if it bothers you too much I guess you could always try to take it back.
I haven't noticed any scratches on the gamepad.
Here's a pic of the back of my play.
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The two top skates were probably a bad idea as they are covering 2 screw hole covers/stickers which could peel off if I decide to take the skates off.
The skate just behind the home button is perfect and has stopped a lot of the wobble when i tap the screen or hit one of the face buttons.

This seems like something sony should have thought of beforehand. It seems all too obvious that this problem is going to happen to every xplay out there. The joints of the sliding mechanism can only be so strong.

Frogybloop said:
This seems like something sony should have thought of beforehand. It seems all too obvious that this problem is going to happen to every xplay out there. The joints of the sliding mechanism can only be so strong.
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The play isn't the first or only phone that slides. I don't have this problem. At least not yet but I'm guessing everyone will at some point.

Dude, the mouse skates idea. I just peeled two off of my old mouse and stuck them on the top back of the screen. Major improvement. Cheers for the tip

Wait, you put them on the top of the screen, just like in the photo ? And the wobbling stopped :> ?
Gotta get some mouse pads

RossettiX said:
Wait, you put them on the top of the screen, just like in the photo ? And the wobbling stopped :> ?
Gotta get some mouse pads
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It reduced wobbling, I put another two on at the bottom of the screen and it made the sliding motion a bit stiff. So I took them off.

They should have used a Z Hinge like on the N95 or Desire Z!

Just came up with my own makeshift method for the hinge issue. Only 10 days in and i was already crazy annoyed with how the screen would "give" when i was touching the screen or any of the navigation buttons (especially the back button). I didn't have any spare mice sitting around so i grabbed these things at target that you stick on the bottom of vases or coasters to protect your furnature from scratching (basically small stick on circles of various thicknesses and materials). I found one of a sufficient thickness and cut it down to a size that made sense and stuck it on the two corners of the controller. It still slides perfectly and has rid me of pretty much all problems. Additionally, it doesn't seem to get in the way of gaming. The pix will probably give you a better idea of what im talking about than my explanation.

Oh god this has been discussed over and over and over and over and over.. I even stopped worrying about my XPlay months ago..
I asked SE via facebook a month ago and here's what they have to say:

narflynn619 said:
Oh god this has been discussed over and over and over and over and over.. I even stopped worrying about my XPlay months ago..
I asked SE via facebook a month ago and here's what they have to say:
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Its good to know that SE is aware of this and that the problem wont actually get worse. However it doesn't change the fact that the movement of the screen when typing or pressing the face buttons won't drive me up the wall. In the end though... I bought this phone for its built in game controller...small issues be damned

nice one Frogybloop..
It doesn't bother me in any way. Maybe it really depends on the user/owner. This is, after all, expected in almost all slider phones like my friend's trusty X1 -- it wobbles more than my XPlay. The screen part of my phone is still snugly fit to the edge and do not slide when I'm typing like others report. I can just feel the click it produces when the screen is pressed down when typing. I can live with that. Not a problem to me at all.

Fix for build quality issues.

I just received my HTC One developer edition, and like others, there are some build quality issues, most notably the screen is not lined up with the rest of the front of the phone (ie, you can feel the screen glass grabbing your finger when you swipe down to pull the notifications panel)
It was not too bad of an issue when comparing to others from YouTube, also I bought the phone from HTC, so there is no way for me to exchange it at AT&T.
So I decided to fix it.
- Heat up the screen with a heat gun on low or a hair dryer on high. Make sure you keep on moving the heat source in figure 8 and keep the heat source around 10 inches away from the screen. Do this for around 5 minutes, the phone needs to be hot, uncomfortable to hold, but still you should be able to hold it with your bare hands.
- Protect the screen and back of the phone. Clamp the top of the screen. Wait for the phone to cool. Release the clamps.
This worked wonderfully for me, the screen is now flush with the body, I can't feel it when I run my finger on the edge between the screen and the body.
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I'm going to have to try this--I didn't want to send my phone back to AT&T because that would be a hassle but at the same time I really hated how i could feel the little lip every time I pulled down the notification shade.

Thank god I don't have this issue, this is way too crazy of a fix for me O_O

Good fix thanks for posting. This is what ifixit actually does to remove the screen. Hot air melts the glue so you can take off the screen or adjust it.
A sidenote: If you heat the phone up too much the battery degrades so be careful.

Too bad there wasn't an easy fix like yours to my dev edition defect. No way to solve bleed issues apart from sending it back for a replacement.
Good for you. Self-help never hurts. Cheers!
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This isn't a fix for all build quality issues.. one fix for the gap inbetween bezel and speaker grills is put a TPU case on it. It will squeeze it together and make the gap go away.
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well im on my second one right now you can feel the screen glass grabbing your finger when you swipe down to pull the notifications panel on both of them i don't even know if i should exchange again, but it feel like the screen is about to cut my finger, when swiping down its really anoying

I take it hose clamps are pretty strong? seems like they'd have to be to squish that glass back down. Dont know if my walmart plastic clamp kit will do it Thanks for sharing

...This is a rather extreme fix.

i just pressed mine in really hard with my hands

This is similar to how we fixed the early Nexus 7s. Asus had issues with the left hand side of the screen being proud of the bezel. The fix was to warm the periphery of the screen to re-soften the adhesive and then place heavy books on the screen and leave for a few hours... worked a treat.
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I think I will try this before I bother with AT&T. I just hate having to deal with them for anything at all.

Thanks for the how to. Worked perfectly!

cachookaman said:
i just pressed mine in really hard with my hands
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lol just asking for it to crack

This improved things on my "One" as well.
now if I could just get something to close the minor gaps between the speaker grills and the plastic..
I'm thinking about using a bit of krazy glue and working it into the opening and putting my clamps back on until it dries.
This phone will be close to perfect, even if I have to help it along myself

Andrmgic said:
This improved things on my "One" as well.
now if I could just get something to close the minor gaps between the speaker grills and the plastic..
I'm thinking about using a bit of krazy glue and working it into the opening and putting my clamps back on until it dries.
This phone will be close to perfect, even if I have to help it along myself
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Let me know if this works for you. I was thinking the same thing.
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Let me know if this works for you. I was thinking the same thing.
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WOW...Let me know how that works also. I'm trying to not let the small gap bother me, but i'm worried over time that dirt or moisture will get in there and mess some things up. The issue comes from the speakers not being part of the 1 solid piece of aluminum but are snapped on later. This is why in the drop tests the speakers came off on some of them.

going to grab some toothpicks + krazy glue on the way home and see what can be done about the gaps.
Thanks to the procedure in the OP, my glass is now flush with the speaker grill on the top of the device. Much more pleasant to pull down the notification shade now.
Trying to do the same with the lower speaker grill, but it's not as big a deal as the top one.

Nice. Will have to pick up some clamps from Home Depot...I do definitely feel the overhang when pulling the noti shade. You know over extended use, the grime from our fingers will deposit there. ugh
Hope I dont shatter the screen.. lol.

The top and bottom speaker grills are glued on as well so they might not have let them set long enough causing that seperation. As for the light bleed sheesh , im sure theyre rushing to meet demand, but what good does it do if they deliver an inferior product
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Not only Backglass unglues.

I've been using my Xperia Z with good care, used it to do alot of high-end gaming and the phone really gets hot, but one thing I love to do is listen to music, I don't use a Bluetooth connection or anything and it has apparently put straint on the phone panels.
I noticed this earlier today while plugging in my headphones, like normal.
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So beware, it seems that the whole phone can just fall apart due to heat.

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I've been using my Xperia Z with good care, used it to do alot of high-end gaming and the phone really gets hot, but one thing I love to do is listen to music, I don't use a Bluetooth connection or anything and it has apparently put straint on the phone panels.
I noticed this earlier today while plugging in my headphones, like normal.
Sorry for the shobby picture.
So beware, it seems that the whole phone can just fall apart due to heat.
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Seriously buddy OMG...i had that top left panel unglue issue on my XZ...but this is seriously bad....

Go to Sony Service. I've read on another forum (cant' remember where) that a guy got his phone replaced for something like that.

When I read this I had to see how bad mine was since my backglass is unglued. Pulled off the headphone flap en lifted that other part up and tadaa, same issue. When I did it it made some noise like the glue fell apart.
I think you better don't try it, since it seemed to be good until I tried, lol. Gotta get my backglass repaired anyway so I'll tell them about this problem also. I hope they swap it for a new one haha.
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When I read this I had to see how bad mine was since my backglass is unglued. Pulled off the headphone flap en lifted that other part up and tadaa, same issue. When I did it it made some noise like the glue fell apart.
I think you better don't try it, since it seemed to be good until I tried, lol. Gotta get my backglass repaired anyway so I'll tell them about this problem also. I hope they swap it for a new one haha.
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I shouldn't probably, but I'm glad I'm not the only one with this problem. I hate sending in for repair, means I'll be without a phone for a week.
I need my phone... D:

OsiBasi said:
I shouldn't probably, but I'm glad I'm not the only one with this problem. I hate sending in for repair, means I'll be without a phone for a week.
I need my phone... D:
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I know, I do too. Fortunately there is a shop here which is connected to my provider, which repairs them while you wait. I'm not sure if they will repair this also, so I call them first.
My backglass is unglued for like two months now. Last week I cycled in the rain and when I stopped and pressed my back glass there was water coming out of the phone lol. Nothing damaged though
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im not sure what im looking at

Oh gosh...evrywhere buggy gluezzz. Cant they use a proper one.
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Would definitely help if the picture is in focus...

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Would definitely help if the picture is in focus...
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holy sh*t!

I don't get how you guys have these problems with the Z?! The only thing i can think of is harsh chemicals such as chlorine,heavy soap etc. I have taken a shower,(steamy) washed my phone with soap (SoftSoap) and don't get these problems. Allot of people that have had this happened to them was due to harsh chemicals.....BTW had my phone since March 6 months later...still going strong!!!

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I don't get how you guys have these problems with the Z?! The only thing i can think of is harsh chemicals such as chlorine,heavy soap etc. I have taken a shower,(steamy) washed my phone with soap (SoftSoap) and don't get these problems. Allot of people that have had this happened to them was due to harsh chemicals.....BTW had my phone since March 6 months later...still going strong!!!
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I haven't used any chemical substances at all. I've used my phone like you should.
This is just weak glue, due to phone getting very warm, and while I listen to music the flap rests on the panel, which makes it open.
Why would anyone use chlorine on their phone
wolf0491 said:
If it doesn't come up by itself don't try force it people. Sticking you fingernail under it will make it come off really easy. Doesn't happen just by headphone port. Happens by micro SD port to where the charging dock connectors are.
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Since I'm going for a warranty repair anyway, I tried it and yes, you're right. I could open it too, if I gave it some force, but it still sticks fine , and doesn't constantly opening by itself - you really do have to force it

OsiBasi said:
I haven't used any chemical substances at all. I've used my phone like you should.
This is just weak glue, due to phone getting very warm, and while I listen to music the flap rests on the panel, which makes it open.
Why would anyone use chlorine on their phone
Since I'm going for a warranty repair anyway, I tried it and yes, you're right. I could open it too, if I gave it some force, but it still sticks fine , and doesn't constantly opening by itself - you really do have to force it
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sorry i meant to say swimming pool