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Sense roms

Why do people like sense roms, the only reason I like them is for the sense clock but fancy widget pro has a clone of it which I like better.

For me sense feals more polished
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Because HTC made a great UI .
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Personally, I've enjoyed the Sense UI since launch day. It's more polished than the stock version and that's all I need to be content.
Customizing your phone might be the way you want to go, but the time put into just using Sense vs finding your own blend isn't for me.

To me miui is the most polished and stable and with fancy widget pro its perfect.

Contact and calendar integration with Facebook is much better on Sense than aosp Android.
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abanh said:
Contact and calendar integration with Facebook is much better on Sense than aosp Android.
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And THAT is why I (and probably a lot more people) love sense, they have the best integration with facebook, and the slick polished UI and other widgets are great also too

lovespancakes96 said:
Why do people like sense roms, the only reason I like them is for the sense clock but fancy widget pro has a clone of it which I like better.
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I "like" AOSP roms but EVERY one has issues. All the CM based ones have wake issues with screen and calls I have tried everything. Sensors dont respond as quick. Take the phone away from you face with an AOSP rom and a sense rom you will see what I mean, the list goes on. The reaction of the Prox sensor is night and day. The best AOSP I have found is MIUI. I have tryed them all and give props to them ALL but I hate to admit it overall function on my EVO is best with a Sense Based Rom. And GB has nothing so far that makes me get all giddy.
VaelPak 3.2
LP
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4.3.2-cfs-sbc-havs-more
Best overall combo I have found
Just my 2 pennies

lovespancakes96 said:
To me miui is the most polished and stable and with fancy widget pro its perfect.
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Except its missing HDMI and 4G. Soo... its not really as polished. And saying you don't care about those features answers your own question as to why people like sense UI... doesn't it?
Personal preference? I like my 4G and HDMI... so obviously, I'm going to stick with something that have them..
In 1943 I killed a hobo.

Maybe people just like crappy battery life???

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Maybe people just like crappy battery life???
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My battery lasts a full day with Myn 2.2 and the #15 Kernel. 19hrs overall time without a charge, 8hrs of Awake Time. Stock battery. Do I need it to last any longer? No. I unplugged it at 11am and it's now 6am. I'm about to go to bed..so I can plug it in until tomorrow.
I don't consider that.bad battery life, and 4G or wifi has been on all day. Actually. Every AOSP Tom I've flashed has been about the same. (Factoring in the lack of 4G.) *shrug*

You're one of the lucky ones, because I tried so many Sense ROMS/Kernel combos, and my battery was terrible.

for me facebook contact sync never works correctly on asop, it always imports all my contacts even if it's set to just merge with exsisting contacts. also, the asop cameras i've used didn't have touch to focus, and I could never make youtube video sharing work from the gallery. for me, asop battery life has sucked compared to sense.
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Maybe people just like crappy battery life???
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Battery life is about the same between sense and aosp roms if battery stats are properly calibrated when switching between the two. I rarely had to watch for wake lock issues on a sense rom though.
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I like sense for a stable option with a lot of nice bells and whistles. Works reliable and does what I need with out much alteration or thought. However, I also have a backup with ADW EX with Calk's remove sense, which is also great because it does keep quite a bit of the sense options like the camera and a bunch of the HTC apps. Then, I use CM7 for fun and playing around, but i do miss the stability, ease and reliability of sense after a day or two, and flash back. I have my ADW EX backup looking exactly like CM7 minus the screen off animation so it feels similar.
My battery life blows with CM7 too. Can't figure it out at all.

abanh said:
Contact and calendar integration with Facebook is much better on Sense than aosp Android.
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bronxknight28 said:
And THAT is why I (and probably a lot more people) love sense, they have the best integration with facebook, and the slick polished UI and other widgets are great also too
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felacio said:
My battery lasts a full day with Myn 2.2 and the #15 Kernel. 19hrs overall time without a charge, 8hrs of Awake Time. Stock battery.
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I'm not a fan of the "look" of stock sense, but as a base for others to redesign, i love it's functionality, integration, and I too get great batt life, at least a day+.
coming from the Hero, where every bit of performance you could squeeze from it was needed, I could appreciate the AOSPs and CMs, but (so far) with the Evo, have not needed to.

Actually, the best of both worlds is probably VaelPak. I might give that run again for a bit, even though I'm loving Destroyer.

I'll tell u why OPINION everyone has their own just so you know

I still haven't seen any real world proof that AOSP rom's are faster than an optimized Sense rom like Mik or Myn's. So the question is why would anyone not want Sense since you get a lot of extra stuff, its more stable and more polished.

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I still haven't seen any real world proof that AOSP rom's are faster than an optimized Sense rom like Mik or Myn's. So the question is why would anyone not want Sense since you get a lot of extra stuff, its more stable and more polished.
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depends on what you mean by "proof", I am under the impression that benchmarks are "better" (I gotz moar Mflopz bro!!1!!) under AOSPs...? (can't be assed to find proof right this sec)
but i dont think any (or little) of that translates to user experience. perhaps the exception being some "heavy" apps will be smoother under AOSP.
I hated Sense on the Hero. but thats because the Hero was slow to begin with, and AOSP/CM was it's savior. Not needed (IMHO) on the Evo.

Tell us your (real) reasons staying on a Froyo ROM or moving to a GB ROM.

Ok people, like the tittle says, state your reasons.This is for current ROMs we have available at the moment and also lets put in perspective that we will never get a official GB source for our Vibrants. I feel this will help any newb in deciding what he/she would like to flash on his/her Vibrant and also those of us who will not succumb to ads telling you your phone is old as **** and you NEED to buy a new one or else you will never be cool again and will live the rest of your life as a looser with hairy palms.
Tell us what ROM you're on. Try to be professional when stating your reasons. Give us your opinion on other ROMs you were on or tried but DO NOT flame the ROM cuz we all know Devs work really hard to give us (for FREE) these masterpieces for us to enjoy or else we could be stuck on stock and there ain't nothing worse than that. NO FLAMING other people's opinion also, that's why they are called opinions (and just like assholes) we all have one. Fire away..

Staying with Froyo 2.2.1. Reason
- GPS
- Battery life
- Overall smoothness and ZERO bugs
- Netflix now on Froyo
- Great FFC support in most apps
- Dont use skype video chat much (thats actually the only one app I miss a little bit being on froyo)

The absolute ONLY reason to use froyo is for gps support. That said, the gps on this phone is crap anyway so there is really no reason for froyo. Gingerbread has been faster, smoother, and more stable for me.

I'm one of those that will keep using my Vibrant as long as possible. I'm currently on Bionix 1.3.1. Battery and GPS (the two biggest issues regarding the Vibrant) work great for me. I tried CM7 on my other Vibrant and I got to tell you its pretty smooth, responsive and stable but it did not beat my other Vibrant with Bionix on a overnight battery standby test. I made sure for both of them to have running just the necessary system apps for the test. CM7 GPS does work it seems but it took forever to lock inside my house compared to my Bionix with the s.gps.2 installed (5 sec.). I did not do a Navigation test on both so I can't call this a complete test. I will stay on Bionix because I need a ROM that is as close to 100% in stability and functionality and I feels it (Bionix) gives it to me.

On 2.3:
CRT Animation
Speed
Battery life is improving (almost on par with Froyo)
Overglow effect
Look
Customization (on MIUI or CM7)

duboi97 said:
On 2.3:
Overglow effect
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The one thing that I'm jealous about 2.3.

My reasons for moving to CM7:
- Much smoother than even some of the nicer FY roms I used
- Little Details (battery graph, customization options, etc)
My reasons for moving back to Froyo from CM7:
- Battery life
- GPS
- Battery life
- Seriously: battery life (even with Bali's kernel, I'd have to charge at least 2x a day)
CM7 is ready for primetime. However, the Vibrant is not ready for CM7. The devs don't have source and don't (and IMHO, won't ever) have GPS drivers.

Speed and overall smoothness of whole phone an battery is ok an sometime excellent 12hrs is good enough really customization of themes
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@Mindaika try Neo redux 9 much better battery an GPS idk cuz I never used it since got phone
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I moved to cm7 cause of the mindblowing performance difference... just no lag or instability and i have desktop class browsing when i overclock thats even faster than the pentium 1.6ghz laptop i used to use o.o
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cm7, reasons (in no order):
i like having the newest version of android (fragmentation? i was running 2.3.5 like the day it came out), gps works (i ran it before gps worked, though because it is worth it) and gets to ~3m accuracy when the best i got on froyo was ~6m, crt effect, overall better performance, i've ran cm7 on other devices and it's always been good to me and provides a consistent experience.
basically, with the gps being fixed, the oc/uv built into the stock kernel (providing pretty good battery life even at 1.3Ghz), and it being extremely easy to flash i don't see why anyone would still be running froyo.

2.2 (Bionix NextGen V2)
Stability
Better GPS
Better Battery
No Random reboots
Swype (it does not work in Simply Honey but does work in CWM)
Faster with OC than 2.3.4
Better 3D rendering
Even with all this, It is very likely that I will move back to 2.3.x again if the GPS reboot issues are fixed. For those unknowing, The GPS works in 2.3.x but if you turn the radio off, it will not work again until you reboot the phone. This is the biggest issue for me.

Just flashed Biffmod 1.3 (GB 2.3.5) last Thursday and was actually very surprised at how well it runs.
-Battery life is actually better on this ROM than what it was on Bionix 1.3.1
-GPS is on par with what I had on froyo
-Runs smoother than a baby's bottom
-Web browsing is more responsive
All-in-all, I'm happy using this as my DD. Everything works as well, if not better than on bionix. But we all know, YMMV.

I tried MIUI and Simply Honey 5.0
Both were awesome and looked awesome.
However since then I have switched back to Trigger 3.2
The biggest reason for me is battery life.
Even though some of the stuff (battery graph, new market, animations) aren't as good as the GB roms it has great battery life.
I'll probably give it a couple months and try the GB roms again..
T-mobile screwed us over so we'll probably never get the source code for GB.
If the GB leak came out the GB Roms would take leaps over the FROYO roms.

i havent used froyo as my main rom for a few months the reason i changed to cm7: much more smoother for me
i prefer the newest
gps is not a must for me
great themes
good battery life

Miui 2.3.5 GB
Gingerbread performance
Stable & Smooth
Battery "Decent"
UI and Theme Customization
Weekly updates that improve overall user experience
and Honestly it's just a gorgeous UI.

rakeshchn said:
Staying with Froyo 2.2.1. Reason
- GPS
- Battery life
- Overall smoothness and ZERO bugs
- Netflix now on Froyo
- Great FFC support in most apps
- Dont use skype video chat much (thats actually the only one app I miss a little bit being on froyo)
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very true...

So it seems alot of you prefered moving up to a GB ROM. I tried CM7 and MIUI looks to iPhonish to me which is not bad but I dont want launcher icons on my screens (beside what is on my dock) which also brings the issue of it not having an app drawer and thats what I liked from Android when I moved from the Iphone. So besides those two which is the most stable GB ROM out there so I could install it on my second Vibrant?
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2 words.
TV out.
Other than that, gb is fantastic.
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Raistline said:
Even with all this, It is very likely that I will move back to 2.3.x again if the GPS reboot issues are fixed. For those unknowing, The GPS works in 2.3.x but if you turn the radio off, it will not work again until you reboot the phone. This is the biggest issue for me.
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i'm using cm7 with the newer gpsd file (i don't know if it's now included in cm7 or not, but it's pretty easy to find) and i just turned gps off then back on, then turned airplane mode on then back off and then opened gps status without rebooting and locked 10/11 sats with a 6m error and i'm inside.

ICS WhaT So SPEcal abOUT It

ICS here ...ICS there...ICS on the moon. ICS so what???
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Battery life has been greatly improved probably 2 extra hours of use if not more.
Even at alpha it runs smooth and hits higher in the benchmarks (in apps such as quadrant)
If you don't need 4g and are willing to give up camera functionality try deck's rom. Haven't figured out if flash is working properly myself if but it's pretty amazing over all.
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My Opinion
It's not that special other than the battery life i've flashed a few "ICS" roms but i'll just stick to the reg. roms as of now

Mmmm extra battery life makes me giddy, hope the radios are better
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I'm on MIUI right now and it's make my phone almost perfect and battery life is amazing. When I flashed Miui like months ago and ride it like a week, I was like "what a f**k I used sense roms for ".
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I think the ICS ROM's are very snappy. I am looking forward to when they get a little further along. The deal breaker for me from using it everyday is the non-functioning calander.

Loving ICS. Better battery life is key. Its not as snappy as Decks Gingerbread ROM but I am sure once Deck releases a prime time version it will fly!

As soon as there's a working Camera, I'm all in. I'm really curious about how MIUI ICS will be. The last build started showing some aspects of ICS, but the bugs made it not ready for daily use.

I've been loving ICS, battery life is the big thing, but other than that is a combination of the small things. Like how the apps scroll to the right and the animation it uses, the way widgets are, the way u manage windows in the browser, the webos style multitasking, and more

It's just because it's the newest thing. So it has a lot fo appeal and is a big draw right now. I remember this was the same way Froyo and GB were hyped. But...ICS is taking it to a whole other level.

Battery life and hardware acceleration are the big ones. The other "improvements" are probably more subjective. Personally, I love the look, vastly improved over other versions of android. In fact, I'll dare to say it looks good enough I don't want it to be skinned.
Other things such as the way you multitask, resize widgets are just bonuses to me.

GB was a complete let down. There really wasn't much of A GUI change at all.
ICS is a whole different animal, but it's more emphasized by the fact we skipped over a whole update in Honeycomb

I'm running MIUI with the BlackIce theme and its a very faithful version of ICS. Can't wait for MIUI 4 to come to the Evo.

Try the Neon BT theme. It's very ICS-like.
I can't wait for MIUI ICS, too

Miui 2.3.5 vs 2.6.32

I was just wondering what advantages does the 2.6.35 based Miui has compared to its predecessor 2.6.32? I find 2.6.32 based Miui pretty neat, fast and stable (not to mention the fact that I can flash it without bricking my phone...again ), what do I gain flashing 2.6.35? I heard the camera is better but what else?
Just wondering, not trying to provoke anyone. Feel free to write your own experiences 'bout these two versions, their advantages and disadvantages etc.
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What i've noticed so far in .35 is lower batterylife, and better 3d.

Lower battery life?
It seems odd because I have amazing battery life. Actually, incredible, almost like a new phone. But then others seem to have bad battery life.
I am using RAM manager only and have my CPU freq set to 1.5ghz/800mhz using Smartassv2.
Yesterday, I took my phone off charge at 6.30am, and I made about 4 phone calls, had 3g on all day and at about 7pm my battery was down to 73%. That is some amazing battery.

You must be joking as 32 was better at battery life and other things. For example gps not working even with cm7
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julle131 said:
What i've noticed so far in .35 is lower batterylife, and better 3d.
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So for a non-gamer you'd recommend 2.6.32 over 2.6.35?

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So for a non-gamer you'd recommend 2.6.32 over 2.6.35?
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Yes. You have a bit better battery life, and speaker dies not have random noices when using low volume. Camera is better in .35, but it is not reason good enought for updating.
In finnish:
Jos et pelaa, niin älä turhaan päivitä.
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julle131 said:
Yes. You have a bit better battery life, and speaker dies not have random noices when using low volume. Camera is better in .35, but it is not reason good enought for updating.
In finnish:
Jos et pelaa, niin älä turhaan päivitä.
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No niin vähän ajattelinkin....or as we say in Finnish: "Rodger that"

At the end of the day, do what works for you.
Personally, after installing .35 MIUI and calibrating my battery, I noticed a massive performance boost and noticed the battery was lasting a lot longer. My phone is working much better then before.
But as I said, it can be different for everyone. Some people have noticed the same as me, some people have had it worse.

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At the end of the day, do what works for you....
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And so I did...kind of anyways. The curiosity got the best of me and now I'm on 2.6.35 which is working beautifully so far...Gotta hand it to our devs once again, they make the average cheap u8800 to work at a totally different level compared to the boring stock ROMs.

For me it was a great update. Touchscreen, battery life, speed and camera, are the great improvements that keep me using it, now with the miui rom...

Going back to Gingerbread - my experiences

So a few days ago I realized I just can't use JB as a daily driver. I *love* 4.x and am a big fan of almost every change introduced, so I've been using ICS and later JB builds as soon as builds were available (thanks, devs!). But on the DZ it just ain't cutting it. I haven't had a single day without freezes, spontaneous reboots, unbearable slowdowns, graphic glitches etc.
Well I'm back to ILWT CM7, which I haven't used for about 11 months. I've frozen almost every stock app, and have found a usable Holo-style replacement for almost all of them, except for the Browser and the hideous pre-ICS Calendar (any suggestions?). Also every 3rd party SMS app is so bloated.
So far, what I miss:
- I really miss pulling down the status bar in the lockscreen! But that requires a 3rd-party lockscreen replacement which is a huge PITA. Also no 4.x unified lockscreen music controls.
- 4.x Rich Notifications. I added music controls in the CM7 notification power widget, but it's a pretty crappy solution (reminds me of iOS)
- JB makes scrolling in apps (among other things) smoother, and some things were considerably more "fluid". JB wasn't *that* smooth anyhow, at least on the DZ.
- 2.x interface is hideous, "fixed" with ICS Mixer theme, Holo-styled apps and a font change.
- Overall UI polish degradations and papercuts, like the power menu, the loss of holo action bar and the ugly old icons of app menu options.
- Some newer apps don't support 2.x which sucks.
- Tons of 4.x improvements I didn't mention. ICS and JB are such vast improvements from GB. JB is so much more consistent, and it sucks that htc are assholes and dropped support for DZ and DHD.
What's better:
- Much more stable.
- Faster!
- Can actually multitask now because there's no need for the OS to constantly kill things in the background. lol at Titanium constantly getting killed in the background on JB.
- Better battery life.
- The proper drivers mean some apps work here but not in 4.x. For example, any app that uses the phone as a webcam.
So anyone else back on Gingerbread and can share their experience?

Most of the time im running a gingerbread rom. Never get the freezes you are talking about on any 4.x rom in 6 months or so, are you sure you had all partitions in ext4?
I do agree battery life is much lower than in 2.3.x and thats one of the main reasons i tend to stick with them. The ui is much better with 4.x but id rather have an ugly ui then a phone that isnt 100%
Overall ics and somewhat jb has been proven to be running almost perfect on the vision and right now im on an ics (a sense rom which i usualy hate!) But there are just too many things dragging me back to gingerbread, battery life being the biggest issue as im a heavy user
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Most of the time im running a gingerbread rom. Never get the freezes you are talking about on any 4.x rom in 6 months or so, are you sure you had all partitions in ext4?
I do agree battery life is much lower than in 2.3.x and thats one of the main reasons i tend to stick with them. The ui is much better with 4.x but id rather have an ugly ui then a phone that isnt 100%
Overall ics and somewhat jb has been proven to be running almost perfect on the vision and right now im on an ics (a sense rom which i usualy hate!) But there are just too many things dragging me back to gingerbread, battery life being the biggest issue as im a heavy user
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I have to say the battery life on the newest Andromadous JB test builds are amazing and much better than GB. I even have the CPU governor set the minimum to 800 MHz with maximum to 1500 Mhz and I can still run a full day without recharging (I do quite a bit of web browsing on my G2 and occasional calls).

Possibly between some gb roms it is better but the best battery life that i consistantly get is with elitemodcm7 and ilwtcm7, with heavy use i can get through a full day 18+ hours every time. If i use a little less on some of the ics roms i can get close but not always (elitemod cm9 kernel with mimicry seems to be the best battery life) i poor life on old jb test builds that slowy got a little better, have tried a build since around 90 something but im sure ill test again soon.
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demkantor said:
Possibly between some gb roms it is better but the best battery life that i consistantly get is with elitemodcm7 and ilwtcm7, with heavy use i can get through a full day 18+ hours every time. If i use a little less on some of the ics roms i can get close but not always (elitemod cm9 kernel with mimicry seems to be the best battery life) i poor life on old jb test builds that slowy got a little better, have tried a build since around 90 something but im sure ill test again soon.
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Yeah, definitely try the new test builds, I was really amazed at the big difference in battery life in the newest builds.

euhh, its not beacause of your DZ.
- On the galaxy sII, MOST of the ICS and JB roms are not smooth at all. Lot of crashes , etc. Even on the official update.
- on galaxy note, same thing. Looks like stock JB run better anyway, good thing.
- on nexus S it is the worst since the last JB update.
- on desire ( one of the most supported device) , lot of crashes with ICS.
- And I dont tell you about the milestone (very old device)...
^^^
All the phones mentionned above, are running GB right now.
They not all mine, most of them are my friends phone, they ask me to root it to try new roms. All of them complaining about ICS/JB stability.
I didnt try the big ass phones like the sIII, but they are so powerfull that you can't feel any slowdown.

Thanks for that info, overdose. I've been wondering how other phones with more dev support were handling JB. Here's hoping with the new Nexus phones soon we can finally have a device that handles stock Android decently.
I've ran into an old CM7 bug with the Lense lockscreen... basically what happens is that, for some reason, the software thinks pulling down the Lense should launch a custom app instead of unlocking the device. Since I didn't have any custom app defined, pulling down does nothing and there is no way to unlock the device
So I have to fix it with adb which is pretty pathetic. Ironically I'm typing this from a restored Jelly Bean ROM.
edit: I got it fixed, and in the process dropped my phone and severely cracked the screen. Hahaha. Oh well DZ we had a good run.

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Thanks for that info, overdose. I've been wondering how other phones with more dev support were handling JB. Here's hoping with the new Nexus phones soon we can finally have a device that handles stock Android decently.
I've ran into an old CM7 bug with the Lense lockscreen... basically what happens is that, for some reason, the software thinks pulling down the Lense should launch a custom app instead of unlocking the device. Since I didn't have any custom app defined, pulling down does nothing and there is no way to unlock the device
So I have to fix it with adb which is pretty pathetic. Ironically I'm typing this from a restored Jelly Bean ROM.
edit: I got it fixed, and in the process dropped my phone and severely cracked the screen. Hahaha. Oh well DZ we had a good run.
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DZ screen are cheap.
I have 2 in stock just in case, with the HTC logo. I paid them 30 $ ea. a year ago .

I don't have a desire z but a nexus one and did have 2 regular desires before (my ex gf had ICS spazedog ROM - working pretty good) now I'm running spazedog jellybean rom on the n1 and its smooth than cm was maybe a bit slower to open apps but no real lag or freeze or reboots after a couple weeks. Only problem is no video camera and had to install an app from play store to take pictures without a soft reboot and still the pictures don't look great. That and can't play YouTube videos in app or browser or its reboots. Other than that its pretty reliable and the desire z should be a slightly better phone. Maybe something else causing the issues?
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@createpassword...
Everyone use their phone differently, I agree with much of what you are saying but I highly disagree with bettery battery life on 4.x compared with 2.x, no matter how much you tweak or change things the best roms (for battery life) on 4.x have never been able to compete with the best 2.x in that regard. I will say that the improvment have been incredible over the past 6 months or so, but I'm a heavy user, and maybe its the way I use my phone that runs the battery fast but I easily can get a day with 2.x (about 6hours screen on) and I'm always struggling even with the best 4.x to do the same, (max maybe 4~4.5hrs screen up)
But again, we all use our phones differently. Right now I'm on an ics Rom, about 6hours up, 56% left of battery with just under 2hrs screen on. Granted this is not the best ics rom for battery life but let's I was using say mimicry or elitemod ics, I would be @ maybe 65 @ most, with certain 2.x is be well over 70 right now
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Fair enough, but like I said we all use phones differently, and I will disagree that screen on time is meaningless being the most power is being used when screen is on. I'm sure I could have my phone on, with screen off, put it in airplane mode and let it sit for 3days to see it still has 30% (or whatever) juice left, no matter the os. But that dosent matter to me as I want my phone to last when I'm using it
Listen, you may get the best life out of ics or jb on your phone, I get better life on 2.x, I'm not saying these newer roms are inferior, I'm saying that one of the most important features is battery life to me and I have always gotten the best life in older operating systems. Having said that, I'm a flashaholic and I try nearly every Rom available for any phone I have. Mimicry is amazing, fast, stable, and pretty good battery life. If I absolutely need to be sure I have power left by the end of the day I'm not running mimicry (im a heavy user and the ways I use my phone it just isn't going to happen) and don't say I have bad apps with memory leaks and wake locks because I've been around long enough to know to test for all this. I don't use Many different apps and the ones I do use I know are good (and the same ones I use not matter the os)
Let's just agree you have different experiences with your phone as I have with mine, I'm not steering anyone away from using
Ics or jb, and ill continue to use thenm too. But I (not you) get bettery life with 2.x
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Fair enough, but like I said we all use phones differently, and I will disagree that screen on time is meaningless being the most power is being used when screen is on. I'm sure I could have my phone on, with screen off, put it in airplane mode and let it sit for 3days to see it still has 30% (or whatever) juice left, no matter the os. But that dosent matter to me as I want my phone to last when I'm using it
Listen, you may get the best life out of ics or jb on your phone, I get better life on 2.x, I'm not saying these newer roms are inferior, I'm saying that one of the most important features is battery life to me and I have always gotten the best life in older operating systems. Having said that, I'm a flashaholic and I try nearly every Rom available for any phone I have. Mimicry is amazing, fast, stable, and pretty good battery life. If I absolutely need to be sure I have power left by the end of the day I'm not running mimicry (im a heavy user and the ways I use my phone it just isn't going to happen) and don't say I have bad apps with memory leaks and wake locks because I've been around long enough to know to test for all this. I don't use Many different apps and the ones I do use I know are good (and the same ones I use not matter the os)
Let's just agree you have different experiences with your phone as I have with mine, I'm not steering anyone away from using
Ics or jb, and ill continue to use thenm too. But I (not you) get bettery life with 2.x
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Obviously battery life varies with the way you use your phone. If you're ever interested in trying JB again, definitely give the test builds a shot. Remember to do a full wipe though, I assume you do anyways. I was shocked at how much the JB test builds improved battery life and responsiveness compared to the Virtuous G-lite I was using for a while.

well thats somewhat a relative point. you see when i consistently get (im picking #s here) 24hrs of battery use with 6 of those hours being screen on time with 2.x. then i compare the use of 4.x where i consistently get 18hrs of use with 4hrs screen on.
this compares not only the screen on time but also the overall time the phone lasts between charges. i feel most people comparing batteries understand that this is over a course of time and that the first day they flash a new rom will not give the best overall picture of what the battery consumption level is.
true the most power consumption is happening when the screen is on, but noting the amount of screen on time along with how long the battery lasts (consistently) will give anyone a good idea of whats going on. see if there is a day that i use my phone less, the battery tends to last longer (you get that) noting how long screen on time is gives a general picture of how frequently the phone is used that day.
also comparing what operating systems do in deep sleep is useful, again that hopefully is not the best way in determining battery life as you are lacking realworld use of the phone. yes its important to note, but like i said if i stuck the phone in a sock drawer for three days with the sim pulled and wifi off, i couldnt care much the results because my use of my phone will never be compared to it sitting in a sock drawer for any period of time.
so one of us is not getting the other, or there is some **** comparing going on over battery life testing. either way i say its best not to waste time and electronic ink over this. lets just say your right for the sake of i dont really care.

I've been in somewhat the same boat having gone back to CM7 many times for speed and stability. Mimicry was very nice but Skype would crash in it and it was an app that I always used. Now that Skype has made some major updates, I'm considering either installing Mimicry again or Jelly Baby. The latter is going to be updated soon from what I've been reading so I'll likely wait and try that.

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I've been in somewhat the same boat having gone back to CM7 many times for speed and stability. Mimicry was very nice but Skype would crash in it and it was an app that I always used. Now that Skype has made some major updates, I'm considering either installing Mimicry again or Jelly Baby. The latter is going to be updated soon from what I've been reading so I'll likely wait and try that.
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Honestly scrolling in cm7 looks laggish to me compared to flinnys don't know why . how is jelly baby compared to flinnys in terms of performance?
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Just my 2 pence but, frankly, any and every CM9.x/CM10.x rom I've ever tried on my DZ has been laggy/buggy after some time. On the other hand, the AOSP counterparts have ALWAYS been faster in general and didn't slow down, unlike CM. Hell, it was the same even with CM7 (with some exceptions, primarily ILWT CM7). This is obviously logical since CM has more things going on unlike AOSP which is pretty light on the feature side (nothing you can't take care of with a couple of apps, mind you). From my experience, CM9+ roms just don't work on the DZ. Whatever I do, they always end up slowing down to the point where I can't even use the phone. As for battery life...I don't have much to say in particular, it has always been below average whatever rom I was running (again with a few exceptions, like G-Lite).
Just as I said though, just my opinion so don't take my word for it.