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Firstly, I want to say that I am doing this just to get everyone's own personal view on which EVO ROM is the best. Before I get all kinds of hateful posts just hear me out. I want to know what you think from your own personal point of view and why you think it's the best. For those who switch ROMs daily, post and tell some pros and cons of each maybe. Tell me why you like it, what you like about it, which of your needs it meets, which it doesn't. And so on!!! I think this could be a good thread for the noobs to learn different things about different kinds of ROMs and what the different ones have to offer. Thank you XDA community!!!!!
Edit: "Frequent flaher" I like that term and I'm sure it applies to a lot of people posting in this thread.
Destroyer is awesome. Very fast and awesome theming. VaelPak is also really good b/c it's so unique and customizable. IMHO, if you're new to flashing, you need to try, CM or variant of, Miui, VaelPak, and a Z ROM (MikZ or Warm Z).
For sense ROMs, Unleashed is really good. Very fast/smooth and awesome theme options. Best sense ROM IMHO. MikFroyo is also very fast. I can get good battery life out of almost any ROM, but EViO 2 stands out in that area.
ive flashed alot of sense and about all of the gingerbread roms. the gingerbreads are fast, but too high maintenance for me. sure some will say that its stable for them but 8 out of 10 in the cm threads are trying to work out bugs.
theres also a lot of fast and fully functional sense roms highly themed. depends on what the end user whants out of their rom, functionality, look, batt, etc..
i like a bare bones stock sleek looking optimized preferably lightly themed rom. thats why im currently running Miks 4.6b2 ODEXED themed by Chogardjr. i removed all of the useless stuff, its faast, rock solid stable, great battery life and everything works. IMHO!
I have used almost every setup there is, and most are pretty good, except they all have an issue or 2 that makes me feel incomplete when it comes to my phone.
Sense Roms: King's Ultra Froyo and Ultra Froyo 2, Koni's Elite 1 and Elite 2. ALL of those are pretty equal. Very fast, smooth, beautiful looking, but no matter what kernel I tried, battery life was garbage. One thing about my phone is I tried almost every NetArchy Kernel there is, I bet, and never got a good battery on a Sense ROM.
Miui: I can see why people like it, but I just don't like having all my apps on the desktop and switching to LPP takes away part of the allure of havng Miui. The theme changer wouldn't install any of the themes I downloaded. Plus, I had issues with screen flicker, but I understand I did the update wrong, so that may be where that came from. Also, I spent over an hour alphabetizing my apps... damn OCD!
CM7: By FAR the best battery life, with the kernel I use, SavagedZen 009, but the GPS navigation thing is an issue. I take my phone off the charger at 6AM, and by 11PM, after moderate to heavy use, I'm never below 50%. Still, I want those Sense Widgets. LPP has them, but in People, for instance, you don't get the user pics from Facebook, and all the entries are just the stock Android image. One other thing on CM7, that is intolerable, is that it takes a coon's age to copy anything to my SDCard. I did a back up, and reformat the other night and it took an hour and a half to copy my music back (just under a gig), for example
Right now, I'm running Destroyer, and the battery isn't as good as with nightly 14, but it's pretty good. BEtter than with any of the others I've tried. And whatever issues people have with this, I'm not having them. Everything is working good. Very fast, too.
For me, the best, most complete ROM there is, is VaelPak 3.2. It has everything you want. Almost like all the different Mods were combined to make one insane ROM. More custumization options than CM/Sense and MiUi put together, puls packs of goodies that come with the ROM installed on the SDCard. I can't remember why I took it off now, but I think it was the battery life, again, was horrible. Dropped 15% in less than 2 hours with the stock kernel. Although, I didn't keep it on long enough to really test other kernels with it, and there are a few that people using it say give them fanatastic battery life.
I love my CM7 nightlies. Nuff said!!!!!! <3
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Firstly, I want to say that I am doing this just to get everyone's own personal view on which EVO ROM is the best. Before I get all kinds of hateful posts just hear me out. I want to know what you think from your own personal point of view and why you think it's the best. For those who switch ROMs daily, post and tell some pros and cons of each maybe. Tell me why you like it, what you like about it, which of your needs it meets, which it doesn't. And so on!!! I think this could be a good thread for the noobs to learn different things about different kinds of ROMs and what the different ones have to offer. Thank you XDA community!!!!!
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still waiting for the best...
i like warm z.. but it dont have hdmi and 4G. ffc can be worked around.
what dont you give your thoughts???
Well I just started flashing ROMs about 9 months ago and started a basically sense roms. I didn't really like them bc of limited customization and they were a little slow and battery was horrible. From there I stuck with an AOSP rom for about the past 6 months until a few weeks ago and read up a little on MIUI and tried that out for a whole 6 hours and hated it. I couldn't stand all my apps on the screen and no drawer. Really got on my nerves. Then tried out that Unleashed and was happy with that for about a week til I really started doing some reading up on CM and decided to try it out, loved it and everything about it. So now I'm a supporter of them, but am super stoked to try out this new SZ ROM. Think that might be the new rom of choice for me.
Edit: That good Dan?
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^^^ that will work...
Not sure why anyone hasn't said this yet but Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS 5 is the best in my opinion. Might not have been updated in a while, but in my experience is the fastest Sense rom with lots of eye candy while still looking sleek/professional without going overboard, the best battery life (16 hours heavy use 30 with light use/good signal), and everything works. I know that AOSP roms have wimax now but gps has been hit and miss with every one of them (for gingerbread at least, I don't care for any 2.2 AOSP roms). Navigation definitely did not work.
I loved Evervolv and Savage but again, not everything works the way it should. Myn's is just the best daily driver. Battery life is phenomenal, I haven't been able to get more than 16-20 hours out of an aosp rom.
IMO (never h):
All the Sense ROMs are the same. They are just the same stock ROM with some heavy theming and maybe a custom tweak here and there ... but IMO if you're going to flash sense you're better off just checking the themes section and getting the look you want... because that's what they are.
Also keep in mind that Sense is likely a dead end as it is. I have doubts 2.3 will ever land on EVO .from HTC/Sprint... meaning it will never come to fruition in any Sense ROM. So it's a dead-end thing to support anyway.
AOSP is a different story. These are truly custom, already ahead of Sense if you're a version buff (2.3.3) and tend to run faster, smoother, and with A LOT less bloat. That said they aren't all flowers and rainbows either. Because they are actually scratch written they tend to not be feature complete (though team WIN is quickly changing that) so make sure you know what feature is missing and if that's a big deal to you.
That said, CM is the AOSP leader. It has the dev support, and most AOSP ROMs you'll notice are based on CM because they are nice enough to release under GPL rather than the default Apache agreement most others use. I like it for what it is, and it's the "best" if you like vanilla Android and want to follow what Google is doing with thier OS.
The other "best" IMO MIUI. It's behind CM in terms of the latest Android base (though GB is finally in the works), and it's closed source so it is missing things available in other AOSP ROMS ... but what it does bring to the table is amazing. It's better in battery, faster, the built in apps are worth paying for if they ever make it to market ... its an amazing ROM.
I secretly have wet dreams of MIUI and CM having an Android love child and bringing me my dream ROM ... until then I flip back and forth between the two.
I'm running a special rom called "dirk diggler rom" and if you want to use it deposit 500 bucks in my PayPal . P.S its better than any rom YOU will ever run on your evo lol.
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^^^^^ uhmmm, nah. Can't be too much different than anything else on here. Pretty funny though. Ha
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The answer depends on your needs. For instance, I don't like the look of Sense but I also need 4G, GPS, Bluetooth and Camera working everyday. That limits me to a Sense based rom until CM7 stabilizes those things. For now, I'm getting by pretty well with Nonsense. It's not been updated recently and has minor flaws but the important things work for me everyday.
No one ROM does everything well. It's all about trade-offs. When you know your own needs, the filtering the choices should be a lot easier.
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The answer depends on your needs. For instance, I don't like the look of Sense but I also need 4G, GPS, Bluetooth and Camera working everyday. That limits me to a Sense based rom until CM7 stabilizes those things. For now, I'm getting by pretty well with Nonsense. It's not been updated recently and has minor flaws but the important things work for me everyday.
No one ROM does everything well. It's all about trade-offs. When you know your own needs, the filtering the choices should be a lot easier.
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Check my signature.
All those things work on my setup.
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Destroyer is awesome. Very fast and awesome theming. VaelPak is also really good b/c it's so unique and customizable. IMHO, if you're new to flashing, you need to try, CM or variant of, Miui, VaelPak, and a Z ROM (MikZ or Warm Z).
For sense ROMs, Unleashed is really good. Very fast/smooth and awesome theme options. Best sense ROM IMHO. MikFroyo is also very fast. I can get good battery life out of almost any ROM, but EViO 2 stands out in that area.
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+1 on destroyer buddy! and its very stable!
In my experience with cm7 at least, scrolling in the browser and touch response has lagged for me compared to sense. Savage and evervolv seemed to be better but nothing comes close to the responsiveness using myns warm
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I am currently using CM7 but looking for a sense 2.0 rom - any help?
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imho
been using mik4.5 w/4.1.9 sbc all works get 16 hours a day with everything on updates every hour,fps 54. love it
Tried miui and cant live w/o sense.
Heres my thing, all the sense based roms are pretty much the same just different icons(themes), but if I have to flash abunch of stuff just to make a rom work right, I'm out
Sense rom = Myn's Warm 2.2 RLS5
stable, fast, and it works...
AOSP rom = Ultimate Droid
http://www.udrom.com/forum/
Also stable, fast and completely working Gingerbread for the EVO and several other phones...
What is the best one running or able to wifi tether...I was using fresh and decided for a new look...since I been away I decided on CM7 but I discovered wifi is not working???....Anyone???
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Differences between Froyo and Gingerbread?
Android.com
It has all the info you need
Things become a lot more streamlined.
What I noticed and liked.
You can now secure you connection when using your internet connection on a laptop or wire less device.
You can now tweak more settings.
The launch pad in the middle.
Silly but I like the battery info a lot better with the labeled graph. That's new, isn't it? Also, netflix, if you aren't boycotting it.
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It adds framerate smoothness.
Has a garbage system in games.
TV CRT animation.
Those are basically the main features.
fancy green color in the status bar.
thats basically it.
I honestly didnt feel the difference coming from froyo to GB
the CRT thing is pretty cool, and green colors, yep. greep colors
multitasking is better on GB.
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Honestly, for me atleast, depends what GB rom your running. I'm on Simply Honey 3.9 and I love it. I see no reason to stay on froyo unless you use your gps everyday.
Aside from the differences already mentioned above, the main reason why I won't be switching to froyo anymore (even without official GB release from samsung) is the app EQUALIZER...which works only when you're on GB
This makes the phone produce sound quality that trashes froyo anytime of the day. It even makes better sound than DSP manager IMHO And did I mention that the reverb feature is sweet?
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Aside from the differences already mentioned above, the main reason why I won't be switching to froyo anymore (even without official GB release from samsung) is the app EQUALIZER...which works only when you're on GB
This makes the phone produce sound quality that trashes froyo anytime of the day. It even makes better sound than DSP manager IMHO And did I mention that the reverb feature is sweet?
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which app is it exactly?
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which app is it exactly?
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Music eq pro
And gb rooms use 200+ rams on startup while froyo only uses 150+... thats the only con i see.
Up to 50% increase in battery life
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Up to 50% increase in battery life
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I take it you're not using a vibrant running GB then
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Also, if anyone cares, Netflix and Hulu for Android are supporting platforms that are up on Gingerbread.
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I take it you're not using a vibrant running GB then
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http://www.pluggd.in/samsung-gingerbread-update-for-galaxy-tab-s-ace-fit-mini-gio.-297/
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http://www.pluggd.in/samsung-gingerbread-update-for-galaxy-tab-s-ace-fit-mini-gio.-297/
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..... seriously? ok so an "official" release of 2.3 "might" increase battery life.But for the current people running 2.3.4 (cm7, miui, simply Honey, revolution, etc) i doubt anyone is getting 50% better battery life over 2.2 least no one i have spoken to. Now thats not to say battery life itself is terrible. it's not, it's adaquate for the average user, and good enough to make 2.3.4 my daily driver, but i personally see about 8-10 hours LESS battery time with most 2.3 roms Vs Froyo stock. But the many other features in 2.3 is where it shines, UI smoothness, gpu and cpu optimization, better streamlining for flash implementation, and better customization options for the UI as a whole. but this is my take on 2.3.4 and i'm personally very satisfied even without my stable gps.
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..... seriously? ok so an "official" release of 2.3 "might" increase battery life.But for the current people running 2.3.4 (cm7, miui, simply Honey, revolution, etc) i doubt anyone is getting 50% better battery life over 2.2 least no one i have spoken to. Now thats not to say battery life itself is terrible. it's not, it's adaquate for the average user, and good enough to make 2.3.4 my daily driver, but i personally see about 8-10 hours LESS battery time with most 2.3 roms Vs Froyo stock. But the many other features in 2.3 is where it shines, UI smoothness, gpu and cpu optimization, better streamlining for flash implementation, and better customization options for the UI as a whole. but this is my take on 2.3.4 and i'm personally very satisfied even without my stable gps.
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I am using the Malice 2.3.4 rom right now, It appears to have the same or better battery life than biwinning and zendroid.
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..... seriously? ok so an "official" release of 2.3 "might" increase battery life.But for the current people running 2.3.4 (cm7, miui, simply Honey, revolution, etc) i doubt anyone is getting 50% better battery life over 2.2 least no one i have spoken to. Now thats not to say battery life itself is terrible. it's not, it's adaquate for the average user, and good enough to make 2.3.4 my daily driver, but i personally see about 8-10 hours LESS battery time with most 2.3 roms Vs Froyo stock. But the many other features in 2.3 is where it shines, UI smoothness, gpu and cpu optimization, better streamlining for flash implementation, and better customization options for the UI as a whole. but this is my take on 2.3.4 and i'm personally very satisfied even without my stable gps.
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Couldn't have said it better
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Dattack said:
I am using the Malice 2.3.4 rom right now, It appears to have the same or better battery life than biwinning and zendroid.
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been looking at Malice, been semi tempted to be honest, but i'm really hooked on miui currently. But i'll prolly give it a shot here in the next week or so, Thanks for the tip
Hey guys.
Must say for early stages ICS looks pretty sweet. Looking forward to the stable version by Codeworkx and team.
My opinion though is that i still find Gingerbread pretty solid and has all the features i need still. Yes ICS is still in early stages. But there are still few features that i can not leave without just yet. And plus battery life of course is a major issue for me so when kernel sources are released i am sure we shall see an influx of kernels to tackle the problem as it was in the early days of Gingerbread on our gorgeous phones.
Question here is...Do you guys find it worth the jump even on early stages or are you sticking with Gingerbread as it is still stable and you have all the features you can ask for till the gorgeous CM9 gets more stable? Also what would you like from Gingerbread to be on ICS
Thanks
The problem is I've already made the jump much earlier, and it's now unacceptable going back to GB..
Prasad007 said:
The problem is I've already made the jump much earlier, and it's now unacceptable going back to GB..
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I also made the jump but something made me come back to GB..I think it is still because the build is still in early stages and bugs and errors occur..Plus having the voodoo app now by Supercurio kinda makes me hold up a bit longer. Yes i know that is not a good enough reason but also battery life is a major one for me...
What i like to know in the new build of CM9 is it as smooth as people say it is when scrolling?
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I also made the jump but something made me come back to GB..I think it is still because the build is still in early stages and bugs and errors occur..Plus having the voodoo app now by Supercurio kinda makes me hold up a bit longer. Yes i know that is not a good enough reason but also battery life is a major one for me...
What i like to know in the new build of CM9 is it as smooth as people say it is when scrolling?
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Well I'm most likely the wrong person to answer that, having come from the original SGS since only the last 2 days. And no, I don't think that it's not a good enough reason to revert to GB for Voodoo LOUDER when I'm actually giving it a fair thought of going back to the SGS1 for Voodoo Sound...
I dont know how to say it but ... ummmm but seriously (not trolling) i love the touch wiz ui
One thing just held me back. The video part. After it gets fixed i'll be transfering to cm9
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Well cyanogenmod 9 is stable enough for my tastes. And once media is fixed I think it's good enough
New multi tasking is sweet. But there are some nice addition here and there like a new voice system which I'm using now. Or do you mean
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I dont know how to say it but ... ummmm but seriously (not trolling) i love the touch wiz ui
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Don't worry, there are plenty of people like you and me giggling at the various topics of stuttering paid alternative launchers, and buggy custom AOSP roms, but they are mostly silent.
I think its great they are there, because it can lead to new insights, but so far for me stock + TW + a mild Jkay-theme hit the sweet spot for almost everything this phone can do for me.
Opinion its a leaked test rom and not ICS release who knows what will change .
jje
Ive been trying out the cm9 alpha for a while now and am liking it. Got it setup virtually the same as my KK5 daily.
With cm9 I don't need voodoo louder and my a2dp streaming sounds better.
But.....
I could easily go back to KK5 odexed which I have setup the way I like it. Jkay mods, frozen apps, voodoo louder, etc.
I use go launcher ex, go sms pro and poweramp on both so mostly my user interface is the same.
Found since sgs1 that I like the 3rd party apps more than stock. Thats the beauty of android I guess.
Im ok with both as a daily so far.
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One thing just held me back. The video part. After it gets fixed i'll be transfering to cm9
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+1 I watch YouTube vids on a daily basis lol. They have a done a great job with ICS so far though
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I started using CM9 since the first build, which was very buggy, but its been my daily driver since then and I love it now, stable enough for everyday use (amazing for an alpha) and I already find it better than CM7, I can't go back to GB after updating lol, love the new UI, the only time I ran into a problem was when I wanted to see football highlights last night but can't watch the video =D other that tho I love ICS, can't wait for a full and stable release! Highly recommend it! I found I don't need as many 3rd party apps, don't use widget locker or go launcher or go contacts etc anymore, the only one I use now is go SMS pro.
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I started using CM9 since the first build, which was very buggy, but its been my daily driver since then and I love it now, stable enough for everyday use (amazing for an alpha) and I already find it better than CM7, I can't go back to GB after updating lol, love the new UI, the only time I ran into a problem was when I wanted to see football highlights last night but can't watch the video =D other that tho I love ICS, can't wait for a full and stable release! Highly recommend it! I found I don't need as many 3rd party apps, don't use widget locker or go launcher or go contacts etc anymore, the only one I use now is go SMS pro.
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Same here. ICS is very good and I urge all to give CM9 a try. Of course we cannot mod, theme etc.. at this stage but to be frank there is no need to. Great sensible UI coupled with a very smooth and snappy scrolling and other animations makes it a perfect ROM for a common user. If you are too much into theming, tweaking etc.. stay away from CM9 at the moment until a stable one comes out.
Not much of a battery drain also. Maybe 10% more than stock GB.
ICS KP8
CM9
No thanks no advantage over what i have at present .
Yes to supposed specs when ICS is actually released .
jje
I tested for 2 days the ICS and I must say that the samsung team it's on the good way. ICS will be a wonderful OS to run on SGS2. They still have a lot of bugs to fix, but there are just leaks. We must wait for some official releases.
At the moment you can use ICS just to explore some of the goodies that will be present in the future for our phones. We will have to keep gingerbread for a while
Personally, I want to see the weather on lockscreen fully implemented in the next builds
theres no real ICS for SGS2 right?How could we compare?
we still need to go through 2.3.7 am i right?
No, i find cm7 better than cm9 for now
Personally I don't find ICS the revolutionary change that some people were hyping around. It's an improvement, but not super.
And +1 to the people who mentioned the media part. Once it's fixed I might go to CM9.
And frankly I don't find Trebechet launcher on CM9 smoother than Touchwiz on Gingerboard :/
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theres no real ICS for SGS2 right?How could we compare?
we still need to go through 2.3.7 am i right?
No, i find cm7 better than cm9 for now
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I am totally agree with Dzel.
Since ICS alpha(not even beta) version. its no good to compare stable GB version.
Again CM9 is much better than CM7.
I am running cm9 as my daily now as most remaining issues are not so important.
I was before on cm7 with Siyah kernel, and honestly, everything was really running smooth. I do not see any big improvment in ICS, and in that point, I am a litle disapointed.
I will stick to cm9 as ICs is now the developped OS, but I was waiting for more big changes from Google.
A litle bit like diff between OSX 10.3, .4, .5 etc etc. No real big changes.
Hello my fellow flashing friends!
Is it me or is ICS a bit overrated ? I tried several ICS roms, and apart from the buggy (video)camera still I admit it's not bad, in fact yes, it's quite good and very smooth. But can anyone give me one good reason why a good ICS rom would be BETTER than a good GB ROM ?
Except for being able to "say" that you are running the latest android version, and a few other transition effects in ICS (ok I know there's a bit more to it but you know what I mean) I don't see what would make ICS the better choice over GB.
So far GB can do everything what ICS can do afaik, in the end probably even better (especially for us DHD users). So tell me your motivations why you would run an ICS rom and not a GB one ?
There are many excellent GB roms such as ARHD, CoreDroid, Runnymede, MIUI roms, CM7, etc that in the end imo outclass the ICS ones a bit still..
The only reason I can think of I'd flash an ICS rom for some while is to have something "different" again, but in the end I seem to get back to the good ol' GB everytime..
So tell me your motivations why you'd go for ICS rom or why for GB rom!
Lol, ICS hasn't even come officially to the DHD so you can't compare official GB and ported ICS, GB is going to be extinct once ICS comes offcially
ARHD for example, is official GB and that's way more smoother and performance/batterywise. So GB for now, ICS when it comes offcially
ICS roms are fully functional on DHD already apart of videocamera ofcourse.. But ok even if we take i.e. a Galaxy Nexus then, what's better about it than the DHD with a smooth GB rom ?
It's just something I am trying to figure out.
I would say jz go for ics. If you doesn't mind the camera, or you've boot manager, you would jz go for ics sense 4 rom, den install a stock ics rom in yr sd card in case u need camera, this is what I do right now.
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I would say jz go for ics. If you doesn't mind the camera, or you've boot manager, you would jz go for ics sense 4 rom, den install a stock ics rom in yr sd card in case u need camera, this is what I do right now.
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Right now using the CM9 rom ported by jcmaddox, with blackened ice theme + htc keyboard + working camera and videocamera (but this one lags a bit in 720p), feels pretty nice. But I'm a Sense addict so from the moment a Sense 4.0 rom is available with working camera I will go for that one probably.
ICS = new, nuff said.
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ICS = new, nuff said.
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Because new is always better ? No, not quite imfo.
I'm using Primo S just now and I love it for the performance. Nenamark scores have tripled. I know benchmarks don't mean that much but games and the phone overall feels much snappier. Also, it's the first ROM that I can just leave wifi and mobile data switched on without running out of charge halfway through the day. overall, it's the best DHD Sense experience I've had so far.
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I'm using Primo S just now and I love it for the performance. Nenamark scores have tripled. I know benchmarks don't mean that much but games and the phone overall feels much snappier. Also, it's the first ROM that I can just leave wifi and mobile data switched on without running out of charge halfway through the day. overall, it's the best DHD Sense experience I've had so far.
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What about stock browser (by that, I mean all apps that use the stock browser core too)? I find that it's sluggish compared to GB. In fact, the reviews are in for One V's (Primo S) and they all point to a sluggish web browsing experience with some even saying it locks up for 30 seconds before catching up with processing. I do find that the stock browser in GB is faster than ICS. My wife's SGS2 on the other hand still retains the speed and smoothness of GB stock browser when the phone was upgraded to ICS. I have a feeling HTC has basically relied on AOSP for their webkit whereas Samsung's added their own hw accelerated code to speed it up.
Reason I'm rather particular about the webkit is because a lot of apps use it (e.g. Facebook app) even if you don't use the stock browser.
if you just have to flash a rom as of today... gingerbread big time!
However, many ics innovations (and honeycomb) are developers side. ics brought many new cool features for developing much better applications. And if it's true that iOS fortune is its apps quality and variety, then android is moving in the right direction, giving developers a much better, and appealing environment to work in. So in a not too far future you'll need ics as minimum requirement to run the most cool applications on your android. And they are gonna kick ass, making of your phone an awesome device. till that day you can always stick with gingerbread . do not forget that gingerbread took over froyo as most used android operating system only in december (2011) so most of apps have been developed with that in mind so far. (backward compatibility etc...)
cheers!
personally, since switching to pics from GB, I couldn't imagine running another GB from as my daily. While ICS might not do anything particularly better than GB on the DHD or Inspire, it certainly seems to do all of the things nicer. Simple little features like folders and recent apps windows may not seem that important if you haven't used them, but once you get used to the interface, ICS aosp experience blows GB's out of the water in my opinion. Now if we're talking sense or some other manufacturer overlay it may not be the same, but as far as stock goes I LOVE ics
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What about stock browser (by that, I mean all apps that use the stock browser core too)? I find that it's sluggish compared to GB. In fact, the reviews are in for One V's (Primo S) and they all point to a sluggish web browsing experience with some even saying it locks up for 30 seconds before catching up with processing. I do find that the stock browser in GB is faster than ICS. My wife's SGS2 on the other hand still retains the speed and smoothness of GB stock browser when the phone was upgraded to ICS. I have a feeling HTC has basically relied on AOSP for their webkit whereas Samsung's added their own hw accelerated code to speed it up.
Reason I'm rather particular about the webkit is because a lot of apps use it (e.g. Facebook app) even if you don't use the stock browser.
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I think you're probably right about the stock browser. It isn't quite as responsive as the GB one, but it seems to add some nice functionality. The main shortcoming for me though (and I say this quietly) is the camera, or lack thereof. Will get fixed in due course.
Overall, ICS is actually better than I expected.
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I was an avid user of ARHD before I switched to IceColdSandwich, now I can't turn back. ICS is smoother, faster and has essentially doubled my battery usage from barely a day to two full days.
I tried the One X ports but they have a terrible battery life and lack AOKP's features. ATM I couldn't be happier with ICS.
ICS is great but then there are a few limitation when you try to get ICS on our phone. ICS is fast, smooth and even better with battery but then a GB ROM would probably give you more functional phone.
Basically depends upon whether you can live without those few features. I f you can ICS should be the way to go. There's a slight catch though DHD isnt really the latest of all devices, so devs would concentrate on the development of ROMs for the new devices. (Lord and Twisted both have moved out DHD ICS development scene but there are still a few great devs working), so regular updates would come less often.
and GB is mature and stable (with almost no updates required).
Yeah the stability is a big issue for me as well, my GPS was working perfectly til I switched over to Ice Cold Sandwich on my DHD.
Although I was able to fix it using a patch, I find GB roms have less problems in the internal side of things...
No doubt ICS feels nicer to have on your phone though
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Google Chrome support, folders, smoother, optimized, easier to use. Nuff said
Not to forget HID Support with BT and with Sense
I find that ICS has more to offer feature wise, however I am new to this and haven't had the chance to test many GB ROMs.
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Because new is always better ? No, not quite imfo.
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gimme one reason to choose GB over ICS when sense 4 is fully ported to DHD...
Ics has a lot of new features and is worth it. But i don't see why you made this thread if your shooting down peoples opinions on the matter
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So after having been running ICS roms for the past 2 months or so, I decided to switch back to my favorite Gingerbread rom for the hell of it, to see exactly what I'd been giving up for ICS. And WOW, was I blown away. I remember GB was a lot faster than ICS, but geez I did not remember it being this fast. EVERYTHING opens and closes quicker, touch responsiveness is amazing, screens swipe lightning quick, and I'm sorry, even though I did realize ICS improved battery life a little bit from my initial impressions, GB is giving me better battery life than most of the ICS roms I have used. Most importantly to me though, my phone has simply just become more of a joy to use. And less of CHORE. ICS makes texting a pain in the ass. And not only that, but basically doing anything, browsing, having to constantly re-press anything, scrolling.......omg scrolling. Going down your facebook newsfeed is definitely a chore on ICS. Seeing as it goes up a little, half the time you scroll down. But typing is probably the biggest thing for me, since I text a decent amount. I even installed the same GB keyboard I'd used on gingerbread roms (it's a modified stock gb keyboard called "gingerbread keyboard") which I had been able to type so quick and so accuretly with (except for the occasional double letter that the keyboard puts in), but on ICS it was just as inaccurate as any other crap keyboard I'd try out. You just have to type slowwwww, and press hard. Who the hell wants to use their phone like an old person? I sure don't. ICS makes my phone a chore to use.
I'm looking to get some other impressions here, and from both sides (mostly ICS fans, if you don't mind), and just get an overall consensus of what the deal is. I knew I'd missed GB, but I didn't realize it was this much!
Things I'd be missing from ICS: brightness minimum and maximum (having a lower min is really appreciated in my room at night - some later GB roms have this implemented though), the updated Gallery (soo much better on ICS), some features that are nice to have but I don't really change anyway (screen mode, gamma sensitivity, etc.), Chome (LOL jk, chrome sucks **** on mobile), better default video player, having my phone say 4.03, 4.04, or 4.1.1 that's about it. Lemme know some other things you'd miss from ICS if you were to revert back.
Also, I have tried most roms for ICS, ranging from AOKP, AOSP based roms, CM9, Sammywiz ones, MIUI variations. Just for reference, I've tried Shishir, Ressurection AOKP, Foxhound's roms, Basically all of Kaffee's roms, cMIUI, RGUI, AdyScorp's V4, AOKP official, Rootbox, etc. My favorite of those personally was probably Ressurection, and cMIUI. Not a huge fan of AOKP (or the wole CM interface), so cMIUI a bit more.
Btw, the GB rom I'm referring to is AdyScorpius' MIUI GB. Fastest rom I've ever used, period. Battery life from what I remember was not even that good (I mean it's MIUI) even compared to other MIUI's. So considering that I'm noticing it to be on par, if not better than ICS I was running, is noteworthy.
Lay your comments down below.
EDIT: Oh and I've tried a few JB roms already, including CM10, Kaffee's CM10, and X-treme's CM10 based rom. To be honest it's really smooth (coming from ICS though), however it's wayyy too early in the game to compare it to GB for me. To be quite honest, it's really smooth and relatively fast, but since it's still based on ICS, I doubt it will ever feel as good as GB.
I do agree but i got used to ICS and the little problems bundled with it. When samsung decides to update our phones to JB, i hope it'll be a different story
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So after having been running ICS roms for the past 2 months or so, I decided to switch back to my favorite Gingerbread rom for the hell of it, to see exactly what I'd been giving up for ICS. And WOW, was I blown away. [...] I'm looking to get some other impressions here, and from both sides (mostly ICS fans, if you don't mind), and just get an overall consensus of what the deal is. I knew I'd missed GB, but I didn't realize it was this much!
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Well, I'm not an pure ICS fan - both versions have their advantages - but I like CM, AOSP and MIUI - and Samsungs camera app. As almost everything here at XDA and other boards is about ICS and now JB I have not expected someone coming up with a thread like this, thanks
I must admit reverting to a 2.6.9 GB MIUI (external link to Fluxi's MIUI GB thread) quite often, too - It somehow just "feels" better than any ICS ROM I tried so far (only 2 months \w I9100, i9000 before, always working on kernels) - touch sensitivity and wakeup lag definately are two reasons for me, too. Battery seems to be almost equal to me.
I'm still looking for "the" firmware, currently testing MIUI 2.7.27 which seems to work quite well, too. But I have a feeling that I'll switch back to GB tonight...
Read in another thread you posted that the WIUI dev might update the GB version, may I ask where you have that information from? Interesting.
Gingerbread was far better than ICS from a raw performance standpoint, i was 100 and 1% happy with the way my phone performed with GB and then i flashed to ICS and got used to extra features (and im the kind of person that doesn't like to be behind the curve).
If google had ported all of the new functionality to GB along with some of the work they did with project butter we would have a MUCH MUCH better platform than we are currently stuck with.
Having a device that doesn't respond the way you would expect to touch input and has noticeable jank and lag in this day and age is NOT acceptable when you have the likes WP7 and iOS out there.
Time is running out Google (& to a degree Samsung) , I've been an Android user since the G1 and 3 devices on my patience is growing short.
We already had these kind of threads before
i will downgrade to 2.3.3 if there isn't a newer 2.3.x of Nee which i believe there is but i ain't finding them
i downgrading due to lockscreen stopped work on Stock ICS but it seems to be working on gingerbread
The only reason why I am on ics is that I can not connect to my college's wifi network... On ics wifi works fine...
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I downgraded from ics back to GB 2.3.4 due to ics bugs, lag on the touch screen (sometimes felt like a resistive screen) jerky swipes between home screens, black screen of death, random shut down and disappearing widgets. Like the op says, GB was a revelation again and the galaxy feels reliable, responsive and fast again. I'm staying put now till next year when my contact ends, I came from iPhone to android and maybe it will be wp8 next, or maybe a galaxy s3.....
I miss the face unlock, swipe to dismiss notifications and the task manager of ics, that's about all
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I do agree but i got used to ICS and the little problems bundled with it. When samsung decides to update our phones to JB, i hope it'll be a different story
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I'm hoping the same thing man haha. But honestly I'm not having my hopes up anymore. I know that the CM10 preview builds don't have HW Accelerator working, and that the sensitivity does seem a bit better than ICS (more in the 'ok-eh' category instead of 'bad' like ICS), but I've seen a couple builds that claim to have HW Acceleration working, so if that makes a drastic improvement we'll see. Honestly I thought when ICS came out that it was just early in developemnt and that they'd work out the jags and stuff....yeah no. It's 3 months later and performance-wise it's relatively similar. AOKP has gotten much smoother though, but there's only so much you can do.
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Well, I'm not an pure ICS fan - both versions have their advantages - but I like CM, AOSP and MIUI - and Samsungs camera app. As almost everything here at XDA and other boards is about ICS and now JB I have not expected someone coming up with a thread like this, thanks
I must admit reverting to a 2.6.9 GB MIUI (external link to Fluxi's MIUI GB thread) quite often, too - It somehow just "feels" better than any ICS ROM I tried so far (only 2 months \w I9100, i9000 before, always working on kernels) - touch sensitivity and wakeup lag definately are two reasons for me, too. Battery seems to be almost equal to me.
I'm still looking for "the" firmware, currently testing MIUI 2.7.27 which seems to work quite well, too. But I have a feeling that I'll switch back to GB tonight...
Read in another thread you posted that the WIUI dev might update the GB version, may I ask where you have that information from? Interesting.
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I really appreciate your comments, especially coming from someone who has experience with kernels, it gives the whole discussion a little more validity. Wake lag is definitely annoying, honestly that's one of those things that by itself, you would think could be dismissed, but when added to the touch sensitivty, and sluggishness, just makes you think..what the hell.
Btw I was actually looking at WIUI last night by chance and also saw that he actually is updating his GB version. I had to re-read it a few times to make sure I wasn't mistaken. He's got a 6.29 version out, and in the comments he said he would do 8.4 (around there). I'll probably flash that, as my April GB rom is probably really outdated....hah.
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Gingerbread was far better than ICS from a raw performance standpoint, i was 100 and 1% happy with the way my phone performed with GB and then i flashed to ICS and got used to extra features (and im the kind of person that doesn't like to be behind the curve).
If google had ported all of the new functionality to GB along with some of the work they did with project butter we would have a MUCH MUCH better platform than we are currently stuck with.
Having a device that doesn't respond the way you would expect to touch input and has noticeable jank and lag in this day and age is NOT acceptable when you have the likes WP7 and iOS out there.
Time is running out Google (& to a degree Samsung) , I've been an Android user since the G1 and 3 devices on my patience is growing short.
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I agree with you that it probably would have made a lot more people happy had they stuck with a thoroughly upgraded GB instead of making a new platform. However although ICS sucks performance-wise (interface, anyway), it is actually pretty good in terms of efficiency. If you notice while restoring text messages or installing something via titanium backup, or shutting off your phone, things run quicker on ICS. ICS is more efficient, for sure. Which is why I hate even more how it is, because it has potential but for some reason still just completely sucks.
I'm gonna have to rant on google: *these are new thoughts just realized a minute ago* Google is definitely behind the ball in terms of what they're releasing. Google has always been out of touch with the people[/B. I'm only 20 but I was able to pick this up over the last couple years. They suck at knowing what people want, or at least are too hung up with their own projections that they don't see the people in which they're serving. You can tell google doesn't know what they're doing because you see it in everything they do. Example 1) Changing Android Market to Google Play Store. Obviously, there are plenty of reasons for them to do that (main probably being to get their name out - not everyone knows android is google based, and also to put all their apps into one [google music, google books, ect]), but they could have done that without changing the name to something EVERYONE HATES. Example 2) Google chrome (desktop). I use Chrome on my home PC. It's really fast. Other than that, I hate everything about it. The interface is styled, but looks like it was organized by an amateur, and is poorly structured. Functinoality is splintered and not well thought out. Firefox beats it in every single category, except for performance. Wish I could go back to firefox. Example 3) Chrome (Mobile), this app is unstable, and probably the slowest browser on the market...and yet it is the only video playing browser available on JB (no flash anymore)... Firefox BETA is 300% more stable than chrome's Non Beta app.
GB was fine, but ICS's regression is total bull (and I'm not talking to official update - samsung), and honestly as mentioned above it is just debasing them for the future. Honestly, I had an itouch for a couple years, and have used countless friends iphones over the years, so I know what it's like. Just the simple fact that going back to MIUI GB has made me the happiest I've been in a while...is saying something. I hate to be the ass who brings up negative things, but if they had been doing things right in the first place, things wouldn't have to be mentioned. I'm not too picky, but I do demand quality. Although I've never even considered it in the past, I'm looking forward to seeing what they're rolling out for the iphone 5, cus it may actually make a difference in my next phone.
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We already had these kind of threads before
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I saw one, but it does not discuss the same thing..it meerly has the same subject. This thread heads in a much different direction, also the former post is outdated with the progression of ICS currently.
LastStandingDroid said:
i will downgrade to 2.3.3 if there isn't a newer 2.3.x of Nee which i believe there is but i ain't finding them
i downgrading due to lockscreen stopped work on Stock ICS but it seems to be working on gingerbread
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You may find one! I know finding official releases past 4.x.x is hard. WIUI is pulling from somewhere though, I know that. Could be it's all just his own input.
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The only reason why I am on ics is that I can not connect to my college's wifi network... On ics wifi works fine...
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I know ICS has better range for WIFI, other than that I don't know the actual differences.
*Sorry for long post*
It is not the range, it is wpa2 thing...
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Oh no!! This thread is killing me for going back to Gb. Damn damn damn....
Sliding answering options, fantastic lockscreen, system wide font synchronization, what more I am missing....God knows....!!
i never use GB on my phone it came with ICS out of box but i want to try it, stock and custom just wanna see how different it is performance wise.
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Oh no!! This thread is killing me for going back to Gb. Damn damn damn....
Sliding answering options, fantastic lockscreen, system wide font synchronization, what more I am missing....God knows....!!
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Lol I hope you're not trolling. Honestly I doubt GB has much of anything that ICS doesn't have. Except ICS option menu is dumb (although samsung's gb is RETARDED), and GB has more simple, intuitive button layout (delete, menu key layout, etc.)
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i never use GB on my phone it came with ICS out of box but i want to try it, stock and custom just wanna see how different it is performance wise.
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Yeah I mean if you haven't rooted yet you're definitely missing out on like 50+ roms to try. There's plenty of different categories and types. You'll probably be amazed when you flash one of the latest (or last) GB build roms. They're blazing. Ady MIUI is like iOS on steroids. Cept the battery is meh. That's the only problem. And of course GB seems outdated now, but it's still got higher usability, imo. Part of what kills ICS is it takes so much longer for you to do things on your phone. I bet it drives up screen on time
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Lol I hope you're not trolling.
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Whatever I do, I'll never troll.
after brick my phone with the so called chip bug and change the mb after paying 100 with the same chip with a bug, flashing XWLPO and then XWLPT I decided to go back to 2.3.4. My battery last +2 days (everything disabled and underclocked) and everything looks smooth enogh for me. If you want a cool interface like ICS has (I see no reason at all to run ICS other than the interface) just install the free version of Go Launcher
Yeah I mean if you haven't rooted yet you're definitely missing out on like 50+ roms to try. There's plenty of different categories and types. You'll probably be amazed when you flash one of the latest (or last) GB build roms. They're blazing. Ady MIUI is like iOS on steroids. Cept the battery is meh. That's the only problem. And of course GB seems outdated now, but it's still got higher usability, imo. Part of what kills ICS is it takes so much longer for you to do things on your phone. I bet it drives up screen on time
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no my phone is rooted and i already flashed custom roms for more then 10 times( all ics expect 2 latest build of cmx) not a big fan of ios looks but im looking forward to try out other gb roms, but im keep coming back to stock based roms just b'coz of camera and that is wht i really want to see in stock gb : camera
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ithehappy said:
Whatever I do, I'll never troll.
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Good to hear it :good:
heavens dragon said:
no my phone is rooted and i already flashed custom roms for more then 10 times( all ics expect 2 latest build of cmx) not a big fan of ios looks but im looking forward to try out other gb roms, but im keep coming back to stock based roms just b'coz of camera and that is wht i really want to see in stock gb : camera
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Oh I gotcha. Yeah honestly stock camera blows all the other cameras away. Stock ICS camera is pretty decent too, but the button on stock gb is the best. feels more secure, and focus is instantaneous with press. MIUI (GB) is decent too except I found the quality a little worse and instant focus a little less accurate. Anti-shake is terrible on MIUI camera too.
Wow GB. Amazing memories .I think the best GB was XXKI4. But what can I know... I had GB for 2 or 3 months since this year's winter and then Boom! Boot loop. You know why guys?? I had brand XWKI4 and there were battery mods for XXKI4.So I flashed those ;p. And then came XXLPS.Now I am on LQ7 but It's not the same. Thanks bro I was waiting for man wich will lead me to GB. BTW first rom for SGS2 is XWKDD so?! Coman guys we have Gingerbread to flash
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can someone link the "best" (in his eyes) gb roms ?
i would love to try a few if they are really faster than ics (smoother).
was so close to try cm10 but so much stuff needs to be fixed...
for me the most important thing would be cam and a smooth feeling.
and can i use nova launcher prime on gb (is it looking the same?)
i never tried gb (my s2 came with ics, so....)
I haven't used GB since I got my S2, but I used it exclusively on my original S. When I moved from phone to phone I found the speed increase of GB on an S to ICS on my S2 simply mind blowing. I know it's nearly a 200% processor boost, but still. Now I'm using JellyBean. I get a full day of near constant use with an extended battery. (I'm a teen, we text all the time, so it gets a pretty heavy workout.) and the speed BLOWS AWAY Gingerbread and ICS without question.
So no, I don't miss it personally. And I'm using SwiftKey, which is an absolute dream. Way better than any stock kb I've ever used.
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