Is anyone else getting random lockups on their phone? it seems like no matter what rom i use it locks up at least once or twice a day. it seems that sense is the only thing that does lock up, as i cant hit the home button and have it go back to it.
anyone?
yeah, it happens to me too...to the point I have to remove the battery
Same here, it usually locks up once every 24 hours or so, and most times it's not even a full lockup, just the homescreen does. cause i can hit the windows button, and end button will lock the phone, just the main Today screen. Sometimes time fixes it, and it'll fix itself. but most times i take battery out
It all has to do with sense.....Horrible i know
eosrider said:
Is anyone else getting random lockups on their phone? it seems like no matter what rom i use it locks up at least once or twice a day. it seems that sense is the only thing that does lock up, as i cant hit the home button and have it go back to it.
anyone?
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I have had the same problem sense I purchased on Mar 24th, after trying to restore the devise 4 times within a 2 week period, I finally took it back and exchanged it for a new one, less than 24 hours, the new one froze up on me too. I searched through many forums such as this, and found that many users are having the same problem, I also read in one that the cause may be in the SD card that comes with the devise (the way it's formatted for use with it), so, 4 days ago, I removed the SD card, and the devise has worked flawless, no freeze ups, and for the last 2 days, I have not turned the devise off, and still no freeze ups. I plan on giving it a week, and if it does not freeze up on me, I'll put the card back in. I reformatted the SD card to get rid of the Double twist program, and the other apps such as the demo games, and put my music, Documents, and Photos back on it, hoping that it will work as a normal SD card when I put it back in.
Give it a try as I did, it just may be that simple fix everyone has been looking for.
Also, just for info, I'm running the stock USTMO ROM, with Cookies Home tab version 1.7 on it, Awesome and Flawless, if you don't want to flash a new ROM, you have got to at least install this add on.
I'll keep you posted on whether or not my test is successful or not
Same here
I've hard reset this thing, seriously, 20 times. Same setup as yours. I will try the sd card removal. Thanks for sharing the info.
depgary said:
I have had the same problem sense I purchased on Mar 24th, after trying to restore the devise 4 times within a 2 week period, I finally took it back and exchanged it for a new one, less than 24 hours, the new one froze up on me too. I searched through many forums such as this, and found that many users are having the same problem, I also read in one that the cause may be in the SD card that comes with the devise (the way it's formatted for use with it), so, 4 days ago, I removed the SD card, and the devise has worked flawless, no freeze ups, and for the last 2 days, I have not turned the devise off, and still no freeze ups. I plan on giving it a week, and if it does not freeze up on me, I'll put the card back in. I reformatted the SD card to get rid of the Double twist program, and the other apps such as the demo games, and put my music, Documents, and Photos back on it, hoping that it will work as a normal SD card when I put it back in.
Give it a try as I did, it just may be that simple fix everyone has been looking for.
Also, just for info, I'm running the stock USTMO ROM, with Cookies Home tab version 1.7 on it, Awesome and Flawless, if you don't want to flash a new ROM, you have got to at least install this add on.
I'll keep you posted on whether or not my test is successful or not
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depgary,
Thanks for that bit of information. I went ahead and formatted my my sd card today. (Fat32, 32kb allocation unit size.) the phone hasn't locked up yet. i feel that by this amount of time i would have seen one. i'll post another reply if it locks any time soon. thanks guys!
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depgary,
Thanks for that bit of information. I went ahead and formatted my my sd card today. (Fat32, 32kb allocation unit size.) the phone hasn't locked up yet. i feel that by this amount of time i would have seen one. i'll post another reply if it locks any time soon. thanks guys!
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Well, It's been 6 days and no freeze ups with the SD card removed, tomorrow I'll put the reformatted SD card back in and test it further, so far, so good
Here's a question: Do you think T-Mobile put the fastest SD cards on the market in this phone?
I simply changed the provided card for one that I purchased a week or so before I got the phone on launch day. No problems.
The ones Tmobile put in there are cheap class 2 cards. Reformatting the card has seemed to help. You would probably have better luck with a class 6 card. I'm going to wait till the price of the 32gig cards come down then get one.
EDIT: OK so I reformatted my card and its only showing 14gigs of storage, I know its not going to be exactly 16gigs of storage but I should have more than that. Anyone else have this issue?
depgary said:
I have had the same problem sense I purchased on Mar 24th, after trying to restore the devise 4 times within a 2 week period, I finally took it back and exchanged it for a new one, less than 24 hours, the new one froze up on me too. I searched through many forums such as this, and found that many users are having the same problem, I also read in one that the cause may be in the SD card that comes with the devise (the way it's formatted for use with it), so, 4 days ago, I removed the SD card, and the devise has worked flawless, no freeze ups, and for the last 2 days, I have not turned the devise off, and still no freeze ups. I plan on giving it a week, and if it does not freeze up on me, I'll put the card back in. I reformatted the SD card to get rid of the Double twist program, and the other apps such as the demo games, and put my music, Documents, and Photos back on it, hoping that it will work as a normal SD card when I put it back in.
Give it a try as I did, it just may be that simple fix everyone has been looking for.
Also, just for info, I'm running the stock USTMO ROM, with Cookies Home tab version 1.7 on it, Awesome and Flawless, if you don't want to flash a new ROM, you have got to at least install this add on.
I'll keep you posted on whether or not my test is successful or not
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I would like to try this myself. does anybody know what class card comes with the new motorola droids? I'm thinking of switching out my card with girlfriend's.
SEscobedo said:
I would like to try this myself. does anybody know what class card comes with the new motorola droids? I'm thinking of switching out my card with girlfriend's.
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droids come with a 8gb.
Still without issue, no lockups.
I also noticed that it was only 14.x gb free. i think its normal though.
eosrider said:
droids come with a 8gb.
Still without issue, no lockups.
I also noticed that it was only 14.x gb free. i think its normal though.
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I think you are wrong as she just got the phone and it definitely has a 16gb card.
defective phone
i think the ramdom lock-ups are associated with the phone and not the custom ROMs. i've flashed about 6 different TMO-US rom from here and they all lock up my phone. so they all can't be bad, right? well, the other thing i noticed was that when it did lock up, i could feel the bottom-half of the phone was hot, right below the battery cover. i think my phone is defective because if i multi-task, it gets hot then locks up. i'm going to return it for a new one. anyone else have this problem?
nick714
depgary said:
Well, It's been 6 days and no freeze ups with the SD card removed, tomorrow I'll put the reformatted SD card back in and test it further, so far, so good
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Well folks, I put the reformatted SD card back in, while I was scrolling through my pictures testing out the card, guess what, the devise froze up, had to reset it, about 4 hours later, while going through the pictures again, it froze up again, reset it. Then, as before, after a long charge, the phone would not wake up, had to reset again, that's 3 times sense I put the SD card back in. To test the card out thoroughly, I watched Transformer part 1 to the end, and no freeze up, so I cannot say if the SD card is bad, I'm getting ready to try a new card now.
The problem may be with the Devise's SD driver. Another thing I noticed is that with the card out, the battery lasted a good 50% longer
This is just my test, but, it seems to me the devise runs better without the SD card installed.
I'll return with an update after the new SD card test run
****Update: Tried the new SD card, the devise froze up while scrolling through the pictures. I don't believe it's the SD cards, seems like a glitch in the SD hardware or the SD driver. My devise works just fine without the SD card installed, who would think that it may be the SD drivers causing the freeze ups. I wonder how long it will take for HTC or WinMo to accept and fix the problem.
Is there a developer on this thread that can come up with a fix, or a better SD driver software?
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i think the ramdom lock-ups are associated with the phone and not the custom ROMs. i've flashed about 6 different TMO-US rom from here and they all lock up my phone. so they all can't be bad, right? well, the other thing i noticed was that when it did lock up, i could feel the bottom-half of the phone was hot, right below the battery cover. i think my phone is defective because if i multi-task, it gets hot then locks up. i'm going to return it for a new one. anyone else have this problem?
nick714
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Same here, the back of my phone would be hot as well, try removing the SD card for a few days, as I did, and see if your phone stops freezing up, mine seems to work great without the card installed, and the battery last longer.
will buy a new one and see
i def think its the card, maybe it gets hot when you charge/ run heavy apps like wifi and when it goes to read the card it miss reads and freezes, cause i install all apps on my card as to not clutter the fone just yet, i will def be buying a new sdcard and probably swapping out cards hahaha and returning old stock one. hahah thus having a sweet better class 16g card for free
I get frequent lockups with Sense, but when I switch to the standard Winmo interface, it never locks up. I don't think it's the memory card as much as HTC's sense.
lock up exiting messaging
I have had the phone since the 14th, I am running the stock T-Mobile USA rom (not flashing another rom until I decide if I'm going to keep the phone) The only time that I have had the phone lock up is when exiting the messaging tab on Sense.
It seems to have started after I updated the myphone application in order to back up text messages.
http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/windows-phone/f/90/t/1651.aspx
It was the same conclusion I was coming, but this verified it.
The shotty class 2 SDHC and the fact that I'm installing core apps to the main memory....giving me **** performance.
Will try my class 6 SDHC 8gb card tonight and install everything to the card.
pictures/messages/etc
No, it doesn't work.
I thought it did until I installed apps and started using the phone normally.
Fail.
All apps installed onto sdhc
Must be your phone. I install all my apps in the main memory and never had a freeze or anything. The wife and I love our HD2's. It has never frozed on us. Especially mine, because I'm the tester for all the cabs I could find and tweaks there is out there.
The only time I got it to freeze was when I was editing the registry. Also, the card that came with the TMOUS is a cheap card. Just use that for storage and nothing else. There should be plenty of room in the main memory for apps.
One other problem is BSB tweaks messes with you during calls. But there is a simple deselect fix for it.
Dammit, I wish I would have read this before I ordered a 16 gig class 6 memory card! Lol, oh well, I guess it won't hurt to have it.
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http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/windows-phone/f/90/t/1651.aspx
It was the same conclusion I was coming, but this verified it.
The shotty class 2 SDHC and the fact that I'm installing core apps to the main memory....giving me **** performance.
Will try my class 6 SDHC 8gb card tonight and install everything to the card.
pictures/messages/etc
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darkphantom, I think the issue isn't with the card itself, but rather the phone indexing it when it's full of lots of smaller files (like when you install apps on there). With the generous amount of storage memory on the HD2, you should be able to safely install apps to the phone...this phone sidesteps the reason why people started installing apps to the cards in the first place on older hardware, to get around limited on-board storage. Apps will always run smoother/faster from the phone memory anyway, and I have a strong belief that a large part of the SD card problems HD2 owners are experiencing are actually due to not the total volume of data on the card, but how many files there are. Try running the phone with no card in it, or with a card that only has, say, a handful of media on it...I think you'll see a difference.
EDIT: adam...did you try running it that way too yet? I'll get back to your PM on the other issue in just a bit here
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darkphantom, I think the issue isn't with the card itself, but rather the phone indexing it when it's full of lots of smaller files (like when you install apps on there). With the generous amount of storage memory on the HD2, you should be able to safely install apps to the phone...this phone sidesteps the reason why people started installing apps to the cards in the first place on older hardware, to get around limited on-board storage. Apps will always run smoother/faster from the phone memory anyway, and I have a strong belief that a large part of the SD card problems HD2 owners are experiencing are actually due to not the total volume of data on the card, but how many files there are. Try running the phone with no card in it, or with a card that only has, say, a handful of media on it...I think you'll see a difference.
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That defeats the purpose of a memory card....
If you have hundreds of songs...what then? GPS files aren't big, but they are numerous.
I got a new one today, will try it out, if not ...selling it.
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Dammit, I wish I would have read this before I ordered a 16 gig class 6 memory card! Lol, oh well, I guess it won't hurt to have it.
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If I remember correctly the memory card slot only has the speed capabilities of class 2 anyway (the speed transfer between the phone & the memory card), but I could have read the specifications for the port wrong. So I haven't seen the need to upgrade the memory card, but that's just my 2 cents.
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That defeats the purpose of a memory card....
If you have hundreds of songs...what then? GPS files aren't big, but they are numerous.
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Yeah, I'm not arguing that at all...just wanted to validate the idea that the volume of files on the card are a more direct cause of the issue than the speed of the card. I just believe whatever algorithm they used for that isn't terribly efficient, and can get bogged down (and unstable) when it has to read and sort too many metatags.
I'm done with the phone. Tested the new unit by just turning it on and seeing how it was working.
Same issue.
Its For sale.
Good luck to everyone!
Hello Ya'all,
First and foremost, I would like to thank the forum and its members for the great supply of information and technology.
Device: HD2 is currently running YukiXDA's Windows Phone 7 ROM
Storage Device: Sandisk 8GB Class 4 MicroSDHC
Issue: I flashed my phone with Windows 7 after formatting the SD card with SD-Card formater for optimal results. The installation went perfect, the SD card was recognized, etc. and everything was working perfectly. I added pictures and music to it, no problems; however, when I put an additional album onto the HD2, the phone started freezing and rebooting quite frequently, with the occasional Storage card error; thus, I assumed (and read) that adding a little more music would patch up the problem. I tried it and to my surprise, the rebooting decreased, but the problem still persists. I know some of ya'all are probably wondering: "Go buy a new SD card," However, this is one of the cards that is known for being compatible quite frequently; thus, I can't be too sure whether I'm just wasting money or not. Any help would be appreciated.
This might sound hilarious; however, after updating to blackseven mango, my phone has not rebooted for the past 6 hours (It is infamous for rebooting every hour or so). I am going to test this out one more night and see what the problem is. I'm sure it is not related to the roms; however, it would restart with every NoDo Rom, but for some reason, it hasn't with this one.
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Its most likely your SD card I personally have never had any problems with restarting and I have the Samsung SD card that came with my us hd2
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Hello Ya'all,
First and foremost, I would like to thank the forum and its members for the great supply of information and technology.
Device: HD2 is currently running YukiXDA's Windows Phone 7 ROM
Storage Device: Sandisk 8GB Class 4 MicroSDHC
Issue: I flashed my phone with Windows 7 after formatting the SD card with SD-Card formater for optimal results. The installation went perfect, the SD card was recognized, etc. and everything was working perfectly. I added pictures and music to it, no problems; however, when I put an additional album onto the HD2, the phone started freezing and rebooting quite frequently, with the occasional Storage card error; thus, I assumed (and read) that adding a little more music would patch up the problem. I tried it and to my surprise, the rebooting decreased, but the problem still persists. I know some of ya'all are probably wondering: "Go buy a new SD card," However, this is one of the cards that is known for being compatible quite frequently; thus, I can't be too sure whether I'm just wasting money or not. Any help would be appreciated.
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the adding of music is the key, ive found that my card has portions that are fine, in fact its super quick and stable, but if i go and install something it will start resetting, if its the same issue as mine then keep dumping 50MB of junk on it until it becomes stable, i honestly do not know why this works unless WP7 is so sensitive to IOPS that even the slightest hicup will make it reset
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the adding of music is the key, ive found that my card has portions that are fine, in fact its super quick and stable, but if i go and install something it will start resetting, if its the same issue as mine then keep dumping 50MB of junk on it until it becomes stable, i honestly do not know why this works unless WP7 is so sensitive to IOPS that even the slightest hicup will make it reset
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Hi
I have had problems with alot of reboots, up till 5 per hour and some times when booting it just get stuck on a white og green screen so that i have to pull the battery. But that was untill i found this yesterday, i filled my phone up(from over 10 gb free to only 2gb free) and now it is running sooooo smooth not a reboot yet
So people with random reboots might noth have to by a new sd card. ???
Wish i found this before i ordered a 16 GB class 10 hehehe
Just a quick report back on this, after filling my sd card up with music i only had ONE reboot last night in stead of rebooting many times per day else it has been running all smoth.
So i must say this is a great result by just adding music to the phone
HTC HD2 with cm7 hyperdroid
Hi my phone randomly reboots a lot ive rooted it and flashed cm7 hyper droid- v10.4 "estatic eagle" android version 2.3.3 build #GRI40 a long time ago but now recently it just started randomly rebooting. i believe it started when i tried to update the rom from rom manager to a newer cm7 hyperdroid but for some odd reason my phone also doesnt reboot into recovery mode to put a new rom on it. please help. its getting irratating. thank you
I purchased a 32GB micro SD card for my HD2 after my 16GB card died last week. A sad day indeed, but an ideal time to upgrade
I've read a lot of threads on the forum about some people having issues with 32GB cards, and fake cards. This has prompted me to run H2testw, and also try formatting using SDformatterv3.
HD2testw - Verified as OK.
SDformatterv3 - Completes OK.
Now, when I add the newly formatted card to my phone, it mounts, and works fine. No problems at all. I then start to fill up the card with music. I firstly copied about 5GB to the card, and again I had no problems. The card works fine in the phone. I then copied another 10GB to the card. However now I have a problem. With the SD card in the phone, the phone hangs. When the phone is in standby, I press the power button and I get a black screen. If I remove the SD card then it starts to work correctly again.
So, my first thought was, duff card. So, running the programs above verified that the card is OK.
So, I am now wondering if the phone actually supports 32GB correctly (IE, when more than 16GB of data is on the card). I also thought that perhaps the ROM I am using is the problem.
I am running [CWR] BOYPPC-SHIFTPDA_GINGER 2.3.4-Sense.s V25 (24.May) ROM. I see that V35 is the most up to date rom, so perhaps I will need to reflash my phone. I will be testing this later today.
Has anybody else found themselves in a similar scenario, and did you find a solution?
Cheers,
I figured it out. Turns out to be a combination of things.
1) MIUI player locking up when trying to scan newly added music
2) Locking up because of some corrupt files
Tracking down the bad files resovled the problem
Noodleman said:
I figured it out. Turns out to be a combination of things.
1) MIUI player locking up when trying to scan newly added music
2) Locking up because of some corrupt files
Tracking down the bad files resovled the problem
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good to see you solved it, cuz i have a 32 gb class 6 and no problem.
some to notice its that to some ppl a 32 gb class 10 works with some bugs, a class 4 or 6 seems to works better.
PS: if you are a flashaholic like me, you should have partition your sd card with CWM partition option, so you could use some of the beneffits of sd/ext that some ROMs use
So 32 Gb works well with Htc Hd2. But, it depends which company and speed.
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So 32 Gb works well with Htc Hd2. But, it depends which company and speed.
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Yuupp, pretty much it is
Sent from my Nexus One using xda premium
I got a sandisk class 4 32gb card and seems to work well with android and windows phone 7 its part number is SDSDQM-032G-B35
32GB on HD2 issues
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So 32 Gb works well with Htc Hd2. But, it depends which company and speed.
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That's the thing: I bought brand new 32 GB SanDisk and am using MIUI JB. Constantly upgrading with their daily build to new versions to no avail.
Problem: I filled card with my files to listen. Initially it works alright, after some time however I find some folders are gone, some files are gone, things just dissapear from the card.
Now I wonder is it a card, is it a MIUI JB or is it HD2 that got broken after my intensive use. Some electronics burnt down or something.
Does anybody had this issues : combination of HD2 with MIUI JB on 32GB card (NAND or SD - both). Keeps losing files in very consistent manner.
I also checked the card with different software and formatted it many times and re partitioned.
As an experiment I am trying now old 8GB card to make sure if its card or not.
Hi, I've have my VS995 for a while and it's been running perfectly. I'm currently rooted, running Alpha Rom (1BA revision) and the mk2000 BTTF Beta 1 kernel. In the last month or so I've noticed anything that has to hit storage -- either internal OR SD-- is starting to get really slow to get started. For example, if I am opening the camera, it takes a while (5-10 seconds) to open because it's reading the gallery.. if I am reading through Twitter and saving some pictures, sometimes it takes so long to save it crashes my Twitter client! But then once I get a successful save, everything is fine for a while -- but if I stop using it, it goes back to sleep. I.e., once storage is being accessed, it seems fine for a while-- if I start skimming through the gallery, open the camera back to back, save a group of files-- everything is fine. But if I let it sit for a minute or so, I'm back to super slow access times. It's almost like waiting for a spinning disk hard drive to spin back up after being asleep. Because of that I'm thinking it's not likely to be a hardware fault, just a setting or something is messed up.
Can someone point me to where to even start troubleshooting this? Since it happens on internal storage too I don't think it's anything with my SD card. Is this likely something in the kernel or the ROM itself? Could it be like a setting in the kernel? I've tried all of the different IO Schedulers with very little difference...
Thanks!
SD-Card going bad?
If it is a SanDisk, that would be my bet. I have had so many problems with SanDisk Media on many different devices and computers I gave up on SanDisk...
Yeah, I've had tons of trouble with Sandisk (and avoid them entirely, they're the only brand that's ever flat out died on me-- and multiple times!) but this seems to be impacting ANY storage access, not just the SD card... I guess I could try it with the card out entirely just to see what happens... (it's a Samsung 128gb EVO-- I almost always go with their Pro cards for phones but I bought this when Pro disappeared for a few months)