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Gingerbread for the Atrix(not trolling)

So i just called in to att trying to get a credit for my gimped phone, i didn't get a credit sadly but i did get some interesting info.
First and probably the coolest, the guy told me that att does plan on releasing gingerbread for the atrix before the end of Q3 as well as the boot loader unlock. The second thing he told me is that att doesn't plan on allowing side-loading and he said its not looking like the amazon app store, however they aren't holding it against people that are figuring out a way to side load.
Anyways it is what it is but its some info, he also seemed rather shocked that the boot loader wasn't cracked yet, dunno why though when i pressed him he shut up about it.

Q3?! Wow, that is still some time away :/
By that time, most likely Ice Cream will be out already...
interesting info about the bootloader as well... so it should not be that difficult? Hmm...

Interesting no doubt... I think they will have a way to unlock at the sacrifice of your warranty.
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Yeah, end of Q3 for AT&T is September, I just checked (they run a Jan - Dec fiscal year). That's a super long time away for something that's already been in work since before the phone was released (based on the engineering build in the Android development forum).

What is trolling?
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it is a art

2.4 will more than likely not be called ice cream it'll still be call gingerbread. And what the guy said goes along with what the australian guy posted in his thread about motorola giving a bootloader solution similar to what the xoom has but it would be up to the discretion of the carrier if they'd allow it or not and that it would all happen in the ladder part of 2011. But to hear it from att rep is interesting but I don't hold my breathe
http://m.pocketnow.com/android/motorola-promises-android-bootloader-unlock-in-late-2011 maybe the rep just read this and said att was gonna do it... you know how this reps are
thats just my 2 cents
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frankiedizzle87 said:
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Now that is what true trolling is. If you frequent 4chan enough, you'll be able to tell quite quickly who's trolling and who's srs.

I'm sure that someone from at&t told you they were unlocking the bootloader for real. I mean, they won't let us sideload apps but they will unlock that bootloader for us no problem. Makes total sense.

Made2Last said:
I'm sure that someone from at&t told you they were unlocking the bootloader for real. I mean, they won't let us sideload apps but they will unlock that bootloader for us no problem. Makes total sense.
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LOL
And what is cool about having gingerbread in october? 5 months from now and 10 months after the realease of GB?

Made2Last said:
I'm sure that someone from at&t told you they were unlocking the bootloader for real. I mean, they won't let us sideload apps but they will unlock that bootloader for us no problem. Makes total sense.
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There may be some contractual issue with a 3rd party that is preventing AT&T from "giving" us sideloading, such as a conflict with an AT&T partner and Amazon for example, so it may make sense to not allow it, although they know fully it's going to happen in any event. I think unlocking the bootloader is what's important. The community has enabled pretty much everything else, including sideloading. I do agree though, it's kind of a contradiction.

bl0wf1sh said:
interesting info about the bootloader as well... so it should not be that difficult? Hmm...
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based on how much these service people actually know, i'm betting they are talking out of their ass. I'm sure he is basing it off of the HTC devices they sell, which are rather easy to meddle with. Since AT&T has never sold a motorola android device before, if they didn't research before speaking, they would have no idea. I'm 100% sure motorola has not told the AT&T service reps how the bootloader works and how to break it.

cegna09 said:
based on how much these service people actually know, i'm betting they are talking out of their ass. I'm sure he is basing it off of the HTC devices they sell, which are rather easy to meddle with. Since AT&T has never sold a motorola android device before, if they didn't research before speaking, they would have no idea. I'm 100% sure motorola has not told the AT&T service reps how the bootloader works and how to break it.
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Last time I checked, AT&T did have a couple of Motorola android devices...
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cegna09 said:
based on how much these service people actually know, i'm betting they are talking out of their ass. I'm sure he is basing it off of the HTC devices they sell, which are rather easy to meddle with. Since AT&T has never sold a motorola android device before, if they didn't research before speaking, they would have no idea. I'm 100% sure motorola has not told the AT&T service reps how the bootloader works and how to break it.
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Flipside and backflip. I think theres one our two more.
Flipside is a piece of junk with absolutely no developers
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Is he the same AT&T rep who told us the Atrix has LTE capabilities?

Q3 is too far away. If that's the case, I'll give the Galaxy S II a hard look when released...

Techcruncher said:
Is he the same AT&T rep who told us the Atrix has LTE capabilities?
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I had an AT&T rep tell me that also.

Q3 or september 11 is 5 months away. In this case, I will rather start looking for other options, such as HTC Sensation, or GSII.
I wish Gingerbread comes to Atrix Soon as well, as 2.2.1 is a real pain. Also once you get spoiled by the newest and greatest android version available, its real dumb and hard to get back to older one... :-(

PixoNova said:
Flipside and backflip. I think theres one our two more.
Flipside is a piece of junk with absolutely no developers
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AT&T has had:
Backflip
Flipside
Flipout
Bravo
Of those four prior to the Atrix, only the Bravo is worth anything. And it got upgraded to 2.2 recently.

Once the bootloader gets unlocked I'm sure we will have a gingerbread port a lot sooner than October. I'm really hoping for a CM7 port!

CEO confirms Evo 3d will be unlocked

cant post the link but the news is on android police

how could it be since the phone are ready to ship? wouldn't this delay the launch? the more acceptable thing to do would be to give the devs instructions or fix it via an OTA.

fixxxer2008 said:
how could it be since the phone are ready to ship? wouldn't this delay the launch? the more acceptable thing to do would be to give the devs instructions or fix it via an OTA.
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when was the launch day released or confirmed ?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ve-an-unlocked-bootloader-one-way-or-another/

Man. I can't express enough how happy I am with HTC. If this decision holds, and it looks likely, I doubt I'll ever buy another brand. I love Sense but, I love being able to customize and personalize Sense ...
MAJOR Kudos to HTC!

fixxxer2008 said:
how could it be since the phone are ready to ship? wouldn't this delay the launch? the more acceptable thing to do would be to give the devs instructions or fix it via an OTA.
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via OTA update when phone is activated . . .

SteveGrandRapids said:
via OTA update when phone is activated . . .
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Don't feed the troll, seriously.

Always been an htc fan since the htc touch vogue. All this just shows they're a customer first company. Bout the only one I can actually think of. Hell you cant even get a burger and fries anymore without running into company haggles.
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fixxxer2008 said:
how could it be since the phone are ready to ship? wouldn't this delay the launch? the more acceptable thing to do would be to give the devs instructions or fix it via an OTA.
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Why does the person with the nexus keep trolling the evo forums?
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I'm lovin it... was kind of surprised that they listened

please don't like HTC more than before, realize that they were going to do something that you didn't like/want and then changed their mind, I disrespect them for that, I will purchase their products but they still get a red mark in my satisfaction book

NewZJ said:
please don't like HTC more than before, realize that they were going to do something that you didn't like/want and then changed their mind, I disrespect them for that, I will purchase their products but they still get a red mark in my satisfaction book
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Oh turn your frown upside down
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Since their unlocking the bootloader does this mean NAND and everything is unlocked liked the OG Evo?

shouldn't this be in the 3D forum? besides, they knew from the beginning what they were going to do. They probably just wanted to see how many people actually cared, and they got more publicity from you clowns who are now singing their praises

alaman68 said:
shouldn't this be in the 3D forum? besides, they knew from the beginning what they were going to do. They probably just wanted to see how many people actually cared, and they got more publicity from you clowns who are now singing their praises
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Thanks. A bootloader conspiracy you say?...
Take the BLUE PILL.

alaman68 said:
besides, they knew from the beginning what they were going to do. They probably just wanted to see how many people actually cared, and they got more publicity from you clowns who are now singing their praises
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No.
The Sensation has the same encryption and that was released, with the encryption, 8 days ago.

mattykinsx said:
No.
The Sensation has the same encryption and that was released, with the encryption, 8 days ago.
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Ahh a hole in the conspiracy theory. Is Lloyd hiding in the grassy knoll?
Seriously, you guys can be upset with HTC but, they could have gave some generic reason as to why they are locking their phones and eventually things would have died down. They wouldn't have really suffered from it.
Instead, they went in the other direction. I give them credit for that. All this does is keep me as a customer.

Setting a nice precedent here!
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Here's the link, for anyone who hasn't seen it:
HTC CEO Confirms EVO 3D Will Have An Unlocked Bootloader One Way Or Another
Personally, I'm glad to hear it straight from him. Yeah, it will likely be an OTA, or an unlock tool, but this news reaffirmed my intentions to buy an E3D...which were shaky still even after the announcement yesterday.

tomp517 said:
Since their unlocking the bootloader does this mean NAND and everything is unlocked liked the OG Evo?
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Yes, sir. Absolutely. This means devs will be able to cook roms, kernels and any other goodies we are enjoying on the current Evo......and more.

Evo will get a update second quarter soon confirmed from HTC also they said they will post a list of phones that will not be locked. Some still are.

T-Mobile will be getting the HTC Sensation

http://twitter.com/#!/htc
By June the 15th .
Great device with a promised unlocked bootloader. Will YOU be getting it?

Abu-7abash said:
http://twitter.com/#!/htc
By June the 15th .
Great device with a promised unlocked bootloader. Will YOU be getting it?
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Promised unlocked bootloader? Where did you find this?

iCaptivate said:
Promised unlocked bootloader? Where did you find this?
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HTC's CEO or sth tweeted it too.

Abu-7abash said:
HTC's CEO or sth tweeted it too.
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I saw that on HTC's twitter. But the Sensation has a locked bootloader so far. I don't see why it would be different for T Mo.

iCaptivate said:
I saw that on HTC's twitter. But the Sensation has a locked bootloader so far. I don't see why it would be different for T Mo.
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Here. Apparently it was on Facebook not twitter.

im a samsung fan myself, so i will be passing on this for hercules or sgs2! but it looks nice except for the low ram

Damn, watched the video, and HTC really knows how to make videos for their phones.
I'll be getting this, since it's a freaking amazing phone. I hope the SGS2 comes to T-Mobile, but if it isn't, this phone is JUST as good.

This will have a locked bootloader. Hopefully HTC issues an update that unlocks it in future. Phone has good specs but nothing great, engadget wasn't too impressed by screen, camera or sound....

VICosPhi said:
This will have a locked bootloader. Hopefully HTC issues an update that unlocks it in future. Phone has good specs but nothing great, engadget wasn't too impressed by screen, camera or sound....
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God knows Engadget is completely fair and unbiased towards Android phones.

speaking of Engadget..
LINKKKK
I still like the SGSii more even though its taking longer to release.
Buttttt I'm honestly thinking of waiting until the Quad-core Kal El phones come out. they are insannneeee
LINKKKKK for that

iCaptivate said:
God knows Engadget is completely fair and unbiased towards Android phones.
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they really liked the sgs2. but, yeah, overall an android phone will probably never get a 10/10 from them.

How is this related to the Samsung Vibrant?
Like others mentioned HTC CEO did infact say that they listend to customer complaints, and they will no longer lock the bootloader in their phones. I think the Sensation was already manufactured when he made that comment, so hopefully Sensation owners will get an update to unlock.
However, my question is. Why was this thread made? What does this have to do with the Samsung Vibrant?

SamsungVibrant said:
However, my question is. Why was this thread made? What does this have to do with the Samsung Vibrant?
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...cause the OP wanted to troll to see how many people would dump their Vibrant in favor of a new sexy piece of hardware when it comes out?
i for one will wait for the SGS2 or Herc.

which screen looks better, SGS2 with a superior screen technology but lower resolution, or Sensation with higher screen resolution but inferior screen technology?

Talked to T-Mobile today and I qualify for early upgrade discount in two months, going to see what people think about the HTC Sensation and I'll likely be upgrading to that once the time comes.

J3ST3RM4A3 said:
Talked to T-Mobile today and I qualify for early upgrade discount in two months, going to see what people think about the HTC Sensation and I'll likely be upgrading to that once the time comes.
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its already out in europe. there is already a sensation section in the forum.

HTC did not keep word on bootloader policy on evo

As u all know the evo got their gb ota today. This update also involved an update to the bootloader. Its still locked down. A lot of upset people on the evo forums over this. Also the gb update looked just like froyo. Very few graphical changes. Hope our update is better.
if you cant live large, look big in the coffin!!!

musclehead84 said:
As u all know the evo got their gb ota today. This update also involved an update to the bootloader. Its still locked down. A lot of upset people on the evo forums over this. Also the gb update looked just like froyo. Very few graphical changes. Hope our update is better.
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I was told Netflix doesnt work and Wifi-N Doesn't work anymore either.

musclehead84 said:
As u all know the evo got their gb ota today. This update also involved an update to the bootloader. Its still locked down. A lot of upset people on the evo forums over this. Also the gb update looked just like froyo. Very few graphical changes. Hope our update is better.
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Ouch.
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Oh s*$t!! People have got to be PISSED! Especially after the CEO said it wouldn't happen...ouch is right!
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qbking77 said:
I was told Netflix doesnt work and Wifi-N Doesn't work anymore either.
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Netflix doesn't work right now but wifi does. What happened was a developer uploaded the stock kernel but was playing with it a little and forget he took out some lib files so some people flashed a bad kernel. I updated my wife's phone with a rooted stock rom and her wifi works perfectly. Good going HTC
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musclehead84 said:
Netflix doesn't work right now but wifi does. What happened was a developer uploaded the stock kernel but was playing with it a little and forget he took out some lib files so some people flashed a bad kernel. I updated my wife's phone with a rooted stock rom and her wifi works perfectly. Good going HTC
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Wifi b and g works... just not wifi N

qbking77 said:
Wifi b and g works... just not wifi N
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Oh I see. I'm sorry I read to quick. Ill have to see. That sucks
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wow sucks for the evo guys its probably all that sand guys fault if he wouldnt have came over here and talked smack that wouldnt have happend

Yeah qbking you are right. Under wifi settings on my wife's evo it only lists b and g. They took the support for n out. What the hell were they thinking? Pls Samsung dont screw ours up pls
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CrfEpic4g said:
wow sucks for the evo guys its probably all that sand guys fault if he wouldnt have came over here and talked smack that wouldnt have happend
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haha karmas a b1tch...
sorry to all the decent evo owners <<<I used to be one

I knew that was going to happen

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I knew that was going to happen
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Lol. Why would they take n support out on wifi?
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The EVO's bootloader is unlocked lmao, that's why they have S-OFF. It's not encrypted or anything.
Speaking of which...this ROM was 3 months in the making. HTC just made the announcement.
Don't try to take down HTC and Sprint this way when you have no evidence.

Whosdaman said:
The EVO's bootloader is unlocked lmao, that's why they have S-OFF. It's not encrypted or anything.
Speaking of which...this ROM was 3 months in the making. HTC just made the announcement.
Don't try to take down HTC and Sprint this way when you have no evidence.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1108994
Looks like their customers are doing it for them.

Whosdaman said:
The EVO's bootloader is unlocked lmao, that's why they have S-OFF. It's not encrypted or anything.
Speaking of which...this ROM was 3 months in the making. HTC just made the announcement.
Don't try to take down HTC and Sprint this way when you have no evidence.
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Its unlocked cause of unrevoked forever. It sure isn't unlocked out of the box. So since it wad already on the making than that is the excuse. I'm sire the evo3d was I'm the making as well when they announced that too
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The Root said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1108994
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That's impressions. We all have opinions on things. But the bootloader is not locked by far. There is not encryption or anything. Sure, there is no "unlock" button, but was there suppose to be? Peter Chou never said the EVO 4G applied to the new policy. Even if it was to go into effect that soon. They will be updating the EVO 4G again....and probably soon

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That's impressions. We all have opinions on things. But the bootloader is not locked by far. There is not encryption or anything. Sure, there is no "unlock" button, but was there suppose to be? Peter Chou never said the EVO 4G applied to the new policy. Even if it was to go into effect that soon. They will be updating the EVO 4G again....and probably soon
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He never specifically said any device in the announcement.
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Whosdaman said:
That's impressions. We all have opinions on things. But the bootloader is not locked by far. There is not encryption or anything. Sure, there is no "unlock" button, but was there suppose to be? Peter Chou never said the EVO 4G applied to the new policy. Even if it was to go into effect that soon. They will be updating the EVO 4G again....and probably soon
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Sorry, I wasn't specific at all there. I get the sense, pardon the pun, that EVO users are feeling left behind after this update. The words half-assed were used multiple times as I scrolled the thread. Also, the fact that they were left on Sense 1.0 burned people bad.

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He never specifically said any device in the announcement.
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in emails he specifically addressed evo 3d and sensation

The Root said:
Sorry, I wasn't specific at all there. I get the sense, pardon the pun, that EVO users are feeling left behind after this update. The words half-assed were used multiple times as I scrolled the thread. Also, the fact that they were left on Sense 1.0 burned people bad.
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i saw that too. to be honest the updated fixed 5 peoples evo today that came in and they all loved it

2.3 Root: Where we are.

First, this isn't a post about how to get root on 2.3. I know, at present, it is not possible. I know, I have tried pretty much every method imaginable
Anyway:
Where are we? I've heard rumors that S-off is coming from unreoked, alpharev x, team win will be coming "any day." Yeah, I'll believe it when I get it.
But, I think we are at the point where we are at HTC and Sprint's mercy. I mean, are we at the point where we are going to have to beg sprint and or HTC, to put S-OFF, or, somewhat more realistically, unlock the bootloader (or at least provide an RUU to downgrade?).
Anyway: Just discuss what you think about the plausibility of rooting the 2.3 release, and if we will ever see a free EVO. I am, sadly stuck on 2.3, as I didn't think about rooting, or know anything about it, until after I took the OTA .

Flame on! #johnnystorm

Is there a way to delete post instead of editing?

This isn't another one of those posts claiming to not be one of those posts about the locked bootloader that has been posted more than enough?
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COULD IT BE......
@AlphaRevX and @unrevoked have come together to build something... Revolutionary. See you tonight! http://t.co/QUU6G1A"
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Hey are u rooted on that thing? Oh no...... well sit back and hold yer breath like the REST OF US......

I don't think we're stuck at Spint's/HTC's mercy. We're just further down the priority list of the devs. That's fine, its the nature of technology. As STG posted, Alpharev and unrevoked are posting something tonight. That could be a universal GB crack (hope!) or it could be a rooted 3d/Sensation. Either way, OG Evo is moving up on the priority list. Its an old phone, but hardly forgotten.

SGTSTEW75 said:
COULD IT BE......
@AlphaRevX and @unrevoked have come together to build something... Revolutionary. See you tonight! http://t.co/QUU6G1A"
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Damn You, You beat me.
http://revolutionary.io/

I hope that it really is a root for gb. stock rom is killing me.
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HTC isn't helping much either, though they say that they are going to. The've announced that they are going to start sending out updates with the new unlocked boot-loaders in August, and the Evo 3D is third on the list so it'll be out later in the year. I haven't read anything about them sending out an unlocked boot-loader for the Evo 4G.
As was previously stated, not forgotten, but no doubt far down on the list of priorities.

nYdGeo said:
HTC isn't helping much either, though they say that they are going to. The've announced that they are going to start sending out updates with the new unlocked boot-loaders in August, and the Evo 3D is third on the list so it'll be out later in the year. I haven't read anything about them sending out an unlocked boot-loader for the Evo 4G.
As was previously stated, not forgotten, but no doubt far down on the list of priorities.
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If I recall HTC's statement correctly, they said the 3vo and the sensation would receive the updates first and then in September they would unlock phones that have recently been locked down...I believe the og evo is on that list.
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If that "Something Revolutionary" is root for Evo Gingerbread, I will be voluntary slave to the devs for five years... Okay, maybe not, but Paypal donation, without question.
You guys are doing truly heroic work.
I still think it is obnoxious that Android phones (which ironically, is the "open" platform), have become more locked down. I am glad to see that HTC and other companies are starting to realize that this stuff is important. I think that it is at least a big step forward. I do believe HTC will follow through on their promise, at least for future phones. I don't think that they'd go back on their word. I'm just optimistic like that .
This "later today" thing is killing me. See; Now I am going to be on that page hitting F5 every couple minutes for the rest of the day .
Yea, yeah, I know: No ETAs.
Best of luck to all