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Anyone else have the option to switch to the Droid X from the Incredible but because of Skyraider 2.5.2 vanilla you are having second thoughts? My logic was that a phone without Rom options may stop my incessant xda checking , but at the same time I'm not sure if I can live with motoblur. Also, I really want that big screen. Anyone fell like convincing me either way?
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The Moto X screen is the same resolution as the Dinc screen. That means that the same pixels are just blown up over that big screen. The Dinc screen is so crisp, the X, not so much. Stick with the Dinc.
Its not the same resolution, but close enough.
I bought the x the day it came out, sent it back a week later, and reactivated my Incredible. I just didn't care for the size of the X, or the physical buttons.
A good investment
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Stay dinc...we already have awesome devs and full root and nand
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In addition, the DInc will be the last great AMOLED phone before the coming age of the locked bootloader. Even DInc's in the near future will have locked bootloaders (after the official 2.2 OTA). I fear the age of Android ROM cooking is coming to an end. I'm tempted to go out and buy another DInc, before the OTA hits and then it's...game over... Unlocked DInc's will be worth their weight in gold. Yep, just might be a good time to invest in a couple more unlocked DIncs...
I never was an optimist...
Well done xda! In just 5 replies I believe you have me convinced. Perhaps I will still try the x though... you know what I am really thinking? Keep the small screen (and customization) of the dinc and wait for a Android tablet to fill my large screen needs.
Thanks again, I will cancel my x order on Monday?
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Naw...
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In addition, the DInc will be the last great AMOLED phone before the coming age of the locked bootloader. Even DInc's in the near future will have locked bootloaders (after the official 2.2 OTA). I fear the age of Android ROM cooking is coming to an end. I'm tempted to go out and buy another DInc, before the OTA hits and then it's...game over... Unlocked DInc's will be worth their weight in gold. Yep, just might be a good time to invest in a couple more unlocked DIncs...
I never was an optimist...
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The cat and mouse game will continue. Nothing is unrootable. You can't give someone the keys and the lock and expect it not to get picked.
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The cat and mouse game will continue. Nothing is unrootable. You can't give someone the keys and the lock and expect it not to get picked.
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Rooting is a different process than flashing ROMs...or so I have read. But the only way a locked & digitally signed bootloader will get picked is with the appropriate key. And only Verizon has the key and will be able to update your ROMs. It's going to be a lot tougher now. Someone on the inside will have to leak the digital key. Not saying that this can't happen...but will it? Only time will tell...
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Rooting is a different process than flashing ROMs...or so I have read. But the only way a locked & digitally signed bootloader will get picked is with the appropriate key. And only Verizon has the key and will be able to update your ROMs. It's going to be a lot tougher now. Someone on the inside will have to leak the digital key. Not saying that this can't happen...but will it? Only time will tell...
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Couldn't the new law on jailbreaking/rooting come into play here? It's now 100% legal so couldn't you go in and say (using vzw as an example any carrier will work) Verizon, I have this phone here I want rooted. Verizon then says ok we will give you access if you sign this saying you know and are willfully voiding your warranty. Or something like that. I just can't see how these scenarios or something similar won't happen with the new ruling
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Couldn't the new law on jailbreaking/rooting come into play here? It's now 100% legal so couldn't you go in and say (using vzw as an example any carrier will work) Verizon, I have this phone here I want rooted. Verizon then says ok we will give you access if you sign this saying you know and are willfully voiding your warranty. Or something like that. I just can't see how these scenarios or something similar won't happen with the new ruling
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Its legal, but that doesn't mean they have to make it easy, and it sure doesn't mean that it doesnt void your warranty.
My brother-in-law has an X and I have a DINC. That phone is way to big and comparing them I feel mine works better "my opion". The only thing I like about the X is, it has a nice dash mount.
I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
Yes if you like a hardware keyboard then get the Epic it's a great phone you won't be dissapointed
If you like running the latest and Greatest software then the Nexus S will be out for sprint in like a month.
If you want a powerhouse of a phone then the Evo3D should be out by June following what they did with the original Evo
This thread might give you more info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1004091
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I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
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Evo3d or nexus 4g or any phones that are dual core that come out in the next 3 months
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If you get the epic, make sure you rigorously test the hardware keyboard within the first 30 days so you can return it if you get a phone that's physical keyboard drops keys.
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Yes if you like a hardware keyboard then get the Epic it's a great phone you won't be dissapointed
If you like running the latest and Greatest software then the Nexus S will be out for sprint in like a month.
If you want a powerhouse of a phone then the Evo3D should be out by June following what they did with the original Evo
This thread might give you more info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1004091
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Thanks for the link!
I never buy phones on contract, and swapped from an iPhone to a Moto Droid in May of last year. Loved the Android platform, since I'm a programmer and super-user -- not a dumb user, the way the iPhone continued to fail.
I switched to the Epic 4G around October of that year (bought off-contract as well, ESN was clear, but ended up still being attached to an account... got scammed and ported it to Cricket myself). Love the keyboard. Love the screen. Not a bad phone at all. I wouldn't buy it on contract, though, since the new phones are coming out. But in my mind, the Epic is a definite upgrade from the Droid, albeit still not quite as flexible as the original Droid was in terms of development and ROMs (was on Sapphire with Droid -- tried pretty much all the different ROMs for Epic and they're nice, but not as nice as something mostly AOSP, i.e. CM7 or Sapphire). Waiting patiently for Epic's CM7 to be mostly stable so I can try to ROM with that -- having very high hopes for it.
So in a nutshell, yes, great phone. But, the only issue is that the phone will be outdated rather quick, though I don't think we're going to see another contender with a decent keyboard for a while with dual-core processors, etc (re: I'm guessing a year). No comment on Sprint service, but double check with reviews in your area to see how coverage, etc, is before making the jump.
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I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
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I would stay away from this phone if I were you. The roms I've tried are all pretty good, but never perfect for me. I can tell you the current stock rom is still sub par. I would get the HTC if I you. I know people on here will tell you it's not a good of a phone, but I can tell you it works a hell of a lot better. If you really want this phone I will trade you mine + I'll give you $100 if you get the evo and trade me. I'm trying to sell mine now! my phones of on really good shape, no damage to it at all. If you're interested or anyone else, pm me! But to be honest this phone is not really worth it.
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I would stay away from this phone if I were you. The roms I've tried are all pretty good, but never perfect for me. I can tell you the current stock rom is still sub par. I would get the HTC if I you. I know people on here will tell you it's not a good of a phone, but I can tell you it works a hell of a lot better. If you really want this phone I will trade you mine + I'll give you $100 if you get the evo and trade me. I'm trying to sell mine now! my phones of on really good shape, no damage to it at all. If you're interested or anyone else, pm me! But to be honest this phone is not really worth it.
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DON'T LISTEN TO THIS GUY. His intelligence is showing with trying to trade you for a lesser quality phone. The evo shift does not have an amoled screen or the gpu power the epic has. This phone is amazing and will be amazing for atleast 2 years. This phone will hold up to the dual cores of this year hands down. I've been with sprint for 9 years and they keep getting better. Development could be stronger but we have gotten EVERYTHING WE NEEDED FROM OUR DEVS HERE. CM7 is in progress and there is a stable alpha.
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It's a great phone now. Got mine for the second time on friday and updated that evening ota. I also have a Evo and Evo shift and had the dual core Atrix(hype at this point imho).
The Epic is my favorite although i do prefer the keyboard on the Evo shift cause its smaller which is odd but rue
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DON'T LISTEN TO THIS GUY. His intelligence is showing with trying to trade you for a lesser quality phone. The evo shift does not have an amoled screen or the gpu power the epic has. This phone is amazing and will be amazing for atleast 2 years. This phone will hold up to the dual cores of this year hands down. I've been with sprint for 9 years and they keep getting better. Development could be stronger but we have gotten EVERYTHING WE NEEDED FROM OUR DEVS HERE. CM7 is in progress and there is a stable alpha.
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Well maybe you like having to spend a million hours to get the phone to work, but for me, not really. It's almost a full time job trying to get this thing to work right! I agree the hardware is great, but not worth the fight to make it work right. I've spent hours flashing this thing since the new update and I will tell you I still have problems with this phone. If you would like me to list all the problems with my phone I would be happy to do so!
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Well maybe you like having to spend a million hours to get the phone to work, but for me, not really. It's almost a full time job trying to get this thing to work right! I agree the hardware is great, but not worth the fight to make it work right. I've spent hours flashing this thing since the new update and I will tell you I still have problems with this phone. If you would like me to list all the problems with my phone I would be happy to do so!
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YOU have issues, the vast majority of people are capable of flashing a ROM correctly and troubleshooting any problems they might have, don't dissuade someone from purchasing a phone they want because YOU have problems using it correctly.
I really do like my phone and the ROMs are smoke'n.
They have been having a bit of an issue releasing Froyo that doesn't have some level of suckage.
We're expecting a 3rd try this week.
What balances that are the AWESOME devs for it; they popout an updated ROM with the latest update in no time at all.
Everyone is spot on in regards to hardware keyboard, I find myself (I HAD to have a real keyboard) actually using the swype keyboard way more than the physical one. Go figure.
Some GPS issues; though each update makes it a bit better.
There is a reason that this phone is the #1 selling PDA phone.
Having all said that, in a few months there will be some really powerful stuff that will just blow the doors off anything currently available. If I were in your position. I'd go for a multi-processor phone.
Good luck
I say get an evo.
Theres a whole lot more going on with the evo development that its a much more flexible phone.
Our phone has a lot of potential, but with a fracyion of evo/droid devs its harder for the epic to get there.
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jdelano said:
What balances that are the AWESOME devs for it; they popout an updated ROM with the latest update in no time at all.
Everyone is spot on in regards to hardware keyboard, I find myself (I HAD to have a real keyboard) actually using the swype keyboard way more than the physical one. Go figure.
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Check out the hardware keyboard fix from mkasick - it's implemented in SRF 1.1.0 and its accompanying kernel, Twilight Zone 1.1.0. If you don't want to leave your current ROM, give Twilight Zone a try. The fix is an adjustable one - so you can set the value as low as you want. That should completely eliminate any issues you're having.
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YOU have issues, the vast majority of people are capable of flashing a ROM correctly and troubleshooting any problems they might have, don't dissuade someone from purchasing a phone they want because YOU have problems using it correctly.
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These forums speak for them selves. You don't see half the problems in the HTC forums. Also if you have BOTH phones you would know how many more problems there are on this phone. I would wait for the nexus s if you want a sammy. I would not choose this phone again if I had it to do over.
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These forums speak for them selves. You don't see half the problems in the HTC forums. Also if you have BOTH phones you would know how many more problems there are on this phone. I would wait for the nexus s if you want a sammy. I would not choose this phone again if I had it to do over.
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I do have both, and have had few issued with either, I made the choice to stick with the Epic as my daily driver because its a much nice phone hardware wise and significantly lighter. I find it difficult to believe you would have any of the issues you're having if you properly flashed it.
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I do have both, and have had few issued with either, I made the choice to stick with the Epic as my daily driver because its a much nice phone hardware wise and significantly lighter. I find it difficult to believe you would have any of the issues you're having if you properly flashed it.
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I can't even tell you how many times I've flashed this phone trying to get an optimal set up. I have found that over all I've had less problems with the stock rom, but it is still a lot more buggy than the evo. I would just give this phone to my girlfriend and take her evo, but I don't think she would know what to do if the phone went haywire on her. Hers is stock and I've had far less issues with it than this phone. The only times I had any real issues with her evo is when I tried to mess with it. Trust me man, I thought I was the one screwing up this phone, that's why I'm trying out the stock hardware! All I'm saying there are a lot more issues. Trust me I bought this phone for the same reasons as everyone else! I'm just getting sick and tired of having to Odin the damn thing everyone 3 to 4 weeks! I thought a program may have been causing it, so now I'm trying stock ROM EC and I've only rooted it. I've downloaded XDA, Poynt, Blow up, and the Chase apps. These are the only apps I have on here now, so I was hoping that it was maybe an app causing my problems. Today I had my first problem since going to my current set up. I've been talking about it in this forum, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12464672#post12464672. I'm hoping that it's something that I just needed to reboot my phone. The only other thing I can think that made my phone go black screen is when I use the media player and play videos. I'm hoping it's not one of the apps, but I haven't been able to replicate the problem today. I'm just saying that my girl doesn't have any of these issues with the evo and right now I'm basically on the edge with this phone!!!! I also don't want to shell out a bunch more money for a phone so I just kind of have to deal with it and hope I can find a solution, but I would not recommend this phone to anyone after what I've been through! The Nexus S may be a different story since it's stock, but not this phone!
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These forums speak for them selves. You don't see half the problems in the HTC forums. Also if you have BOTH phones you would know how many more problems there are on this phone. I would wait for the nexus s if you want a sammy. I would not choose this phone again if I had it to do over.
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I'm not gonna say that flashing isn't a complicated thing. But that's your choice and if you really want to experience amazing ui then it takes time of the individual to figure how and what they can and can not do. That's why there is 1 click root. Flashing is not meant for everyone so if you don't have the time that's cool but don't blame the phone for your short comings either in time or intelligence or pesistence.
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I'm not gonna say that flashing isn't a complicated thing. But that's your choice and if you really want to experience amazing ui then it takes time of the individual to figure how and what they can and can not do. That's why there is 1 click root. Flashing is not meant for everyone so if you don't have the time that's cool but don't blame the phone for your short comings either in time or intelligence or pesistence.
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Trust me I've flashed this phone many times. I'm sorry to tell you that when you flash Roms and kernels there are still going to be some problems. I realise that you may want to flash Roms and kernels to make the phone run a certain way, otherwise there wouldn't be multiple roms or kernels to flash if everything worked perfect with one. You're showing your ignorance if you think that a flashed rom and/or kernel is going to be problem free. There's a reason why there are constant updates to the roms and kernels.
I'm just tired of doing it and you should be able to use the phone, without it crashing, without having to mess with it. I don't think it's too much to ask for the phone to not crash when it's stock. Maybe I need to go to full stock with out root. Maybe that's what's causing the phone to mess up. That's my next option!
Edit: I wish I could see other things you've bought. Just curious what type of repairs you had to do to them...
Not sure why you would expect something to NOT work correctly out of the box? You make a valid point it shouldn't work correctly stock..........
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I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
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Whatever you do, do NOT get the Epic. Even if it's free. The keyboard TO THIS DAY does not work properly. It still misses keys and it's not layed out all that well either. I came from a g1 that had a keyboard that ACTUALLY registered keys, even if you type faster than my grandma. Please do not get the epic, get the evo shift or wait for something else on Verizon.
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I'm getting a bit put off by this forum, I'm finding very little useful info here I'm using a Verizon play not a Rodgers or any other carriers version I think the Verizon play needs its own forum so siffting though all the junk that does not apply to me and my phone just to get one post that I can use I mean it sucks anyone agree?
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Not really
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I'm getting a bit put off by this forum, I'm finding very little useful info here I'm using a Verizon play not a Rodgers or any other carriers version I think the Verizon play needs its own forum so siffting though all the junk that does not apply to me and my phone just to get one post that I can use I mean it sucks anyone agree?
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Not really mate, I find it very useful.. I did have Verizon version, I just flashed the UK generic firmware and now it doesn't matter.
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I'm getting a bit put off by this forum, I'm finding very little useful info here I'm using a Verizon play not a Rodgers or any other carriers version I think the Verizon play needs its own forum so siffting though all the junk that does not apply to me and my phone just to get one post that I can use I mean it sucks anyone agree?
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It would get a bit mad if every provider got his own board... I'm getting annoyed with all the verizon talk that's going on. But since a lot of things are universal I wouldn;t want the boards to get split up.
Just don't open threads that state that they are for the R800i or for the rogers version.
The reason why you find few useful info about the R800x is quite simple: nothing has happened: no root, no unlocked bootloaders, nada.
You USAns should exert real pressure on your carrier cartel so that you don't get different models per carrier instead of whining about other people discussing their phone.
Hey be happy you get Vanilla Android.
kidding yea it can be frustrating when the Rogers model launched I was frustrated because their was no information or anything about it here because the European model was already launched.
Give it some time it will all get sorted out soon besides there is nothing yet for the Verizon Play.
I expect root to arrive soon because most newer android handsets like the Droid3 haven't been rooted yet and even european and canadian plays can't be rooted at 2.3.3 unless you use the loophole through 2.3.2 but your device launched with 2.3.3 so that is where the problem is.
Are device came with 2.3.2 thats how lame we are
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American wants his own forum.
However I am sure there will be heaps of talk and ability to unlock the bootloader etc with the AT&T version.
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American wants his own forum.
However I am sure there will be heaps of talk and ability to unlock the bootloader etc with the AT&T version.
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Nice, listen I don't bag on your country I just find it a little odd other divices have Verizon sup forums but not the play if you have nothing nice to say then dont
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There isn't any because there is nothing you can do for it presently? But I understand your frustration, going through hundreds of threads that is irrelevant to yourself is a huge waste of time.
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Development is off to a slower start for the VZW Play but it will pick up eventually.
Just be thankful the members of this forum aren't always saying "Search before posting noob!" like the rest of the forums out there.
adb shove iPad2post.apk to /forum/thread
Ya I go into the android development section only to check the r800x root thread to see if there is an update, but I don't mind having a combined board. Just hope root comes soon.
We do not need a separate forum for one model of the Xperia Play.
The only real difference between the Verizon model and the rest is GSM and CDMA.
Verizon's model came with 2.3.2 on it but there is something blocking the Gingerbreak exploit from working, All you can do it be patient and hope that the Verizon versions see's some attention.
You cant go into every thread demanding an answer or wanting something outrageous to be done about the phone. Doing that will just piss off current Dev's and could ultimately hurt it for everyone.
Just sit back, relax, have fun with your phone, donate to help convince the devs to help us out, or complain. your call, but the last option will just get people ignoring you.
I like how it looks, I like how it's made to be durable (the water resistance is cool), but I don't like the locked boot loader (I know I *can* hack it open rather easily...) Or the potential for issues with that down the road.
If you could warn me against thus phone, all things considered, would you?
Thanks!
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Ask this question on another forum thread ... (the answer will be impartial) Phone as your child - the best! Ask better - why I love RAZR M and get a lot of admiring responses.
So... no particular reason?
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So... no particular reason?
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The only issues:
Size (can be a plus, it was for me)
Screen shake issues (not a huge deal, google it to see what I am talking about)
Non-removable battery (again, I get through a day easily)
Screen resolution
New Moto phones should be out soon
Newer firmware locks out our bootloader unlocker (so make sure if you want to use custom roms to get a phone on 4.1.2 or lower)
That's about all I can think of.
basically, if you want a phone that is compact, powerful, gets you through the day, and always up to date (including custom ROMs), then this is the device for you. the lone draw back is for folks that get this phone after the 5/2013 update is that motorola locked the bootloader (not sure if folks can go back to safestrap, and I'm not sure if developers will make ROMs compatible with SS again).
otherwise, you can't go wrong.
haha that's kind of a big deal if I don't know which firmware the particular phone I'm buying is on...
The update hit a week or so ago, so the longer you wait the worse the chances get. Best if you can get in store and ask to see the version before purchase.
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More than likely it has the update.
But don't let that deter you. The phone is solid stock, and I'm sure someone will find a crack soon.
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More than likely it has the update.
But don't let that deter you. The phone is solid stock, and I'm sure someone will find a crack soon.
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This is also very true. Heck, I run stock and just freeze the bloat apps with App Quarantine. Fast and great battery life on stock.
I love this phone I've had it for two weeks or so (got it from a friend). I had the og RAZR before and I've been flashing ROMs left and right. On stock I've averaged about 20+ hours battery and I work at Walmart and every one I've sold hasn't had the update. So maybe you'll get lucky if you get it somewhere 3rd party and they have a few that have been sitting
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Verizon just revealed the Droid Mini the successor to the Razr M. It has 4.3" 720p vs qHD on the M and 2GB of RAM vs 1GB on the M. The battery remains 2000mAH but the microSD slot has been removed. The new device is still physically the same size.
Thanks for the responses... SD is muy importanté..
I'd be getting this from eBay, so I would reason it would not have the update.
Edit: *new* from eBay, as opposed to used where the seller would want to update "for my convenience".
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To insure our best chances of being able to root, what should we do? I've never rooted anything before so this will be my first time but I hear about alot of problems with Knox and what not. When I pick up my phone, should I not allow them to touch it or watch what they are doing so they can't install anything? What should I disable right when I get home? I'm a noob to this and I searched and didn't see anything,,atleast I don't think so.
They don't install anything on your phone at activation that will affect root capability... it's all in there already when the phone is loaded with verizon's version of touchwiz 4.3 ... don't worry about what you're doing with your phone as far as apps or whatever ... it won't hinder your ability to root if that becomes available to us... just chill and let the developers hack at this thing and see what they come up with... BUT ... don't hold your breath... our bootloader will be locked on verizon... that will make things impossible... dev's will gravitate towards the unlocked versions that are easier/possible to work on... and we will be left behind unless some weird exploit is stumbled upon... learn to love your stock device when you're on verizon... it's less stressfulness
I would not take any updates if they are pushed out immediately after launch.
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Stock phone is wonderful minus a few omissions. For me it's no wifi toggle, continuous home screen and app drawer and ability to not have all apps in the multi window pane. That to me is worth root. Ugh
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Sudbury78 said:
Stock phone is wonderful minus a few omissions. For me it's no wifi toggle, continuous home screen and app drawer and ability to not have all apps in the multi window pane. That to me is worth root. Ugh
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I agree ... I can live without custom ROMs/Kernels, but no root would be rough. No Root Explorer, no AdAway, no LMT Launcher would be a rough adjustment. Ugh, and I forgot all about that stupid Verizon WiFi notification nag Oh boy ... Stock is going to be HARD! LOL
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Aren't we all just chomping on the bit! VZ sales person I would like a note 3 to go, full price off-contract, oh be a dear and unlock the bootloader for me thank you.
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LillieBennett said:
Aren't we all just chomping on the bit! VZ sales person I would like a note 3 to go, full price off-contract, oh be a dear and unlock the bootloader for me thank you.
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Maybe I'm naive but do they unlock the bootloader if you buy it full price off-contract?
nightrapt0r said:
Maybe I'm naive but do they unlock the bootloader if you buy it full price off-contract?
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I'm going to ask, capability should exist, same model is unlocked in UK and others. I'm also not going to use it as a phone right off, Wi-Fi only, which might help. If refused I might wait to see if a developer version will show up.
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LillieBennett said:
I'm going to ask, capability should exist, same model is unlocked in UK and others. I'm also not going to use it as a phone right off, Wi-Fi only, which might help. If refused I might wait to see if a developer version will show up.
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Good luck, since when does VZW/Big Red get developer version of phones? I wish they did, the HTC One dev edition would've been great 6 months ago. Only thing on my mind now is 3GB RAM on Note 3.
vampire5003 said:
Good luck, since when does VZW/Big Red get developer version of phones? I wish they did, the HTC One dev edition would've been great 6 months ago. Only thing on my mind now is 3GB RAM on Note 3.
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It was released for the note 2:
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-outs-verizon-galaxy-note-2-developer-edition-product-page One can hope; we're all Google-Gaga over the specs.
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b00mb00mchuck said:
They don't install anything on your phone at activation that will affect root capability... it's all in there already when the phone is loaded with verizon's version of touchwiz 4.3 ... don't worry about what you're doing with your phone as far as apps or whatever ... it won't hinder your ability to root if that becomes available to us... just chill and let the developers hack at this thing and see what they come up with... BUT ... don't hold your breath... our bootloader will be locked on verizon... that will make things impossible... dev's will gravitate towards the unlocked versions that are easier/possible to work on... and we will be left behind unless some weird exploit is stumbled upon... learn to love your stock device when you're on verizon... it's less stressfulness
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When wouldn't we get root with a locked bootloader? And devs on Verizon aren't just going to switch over to another carrier for a phone. Have you checked out some of the crazy stuff they've been able to accomplish on Motorola phones? Or safestrap for the locked bootloader s4? Well be totally fine. I'd be surprised if we didn't have root on launch day.
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