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The Tweak Thread (Advanced Eris Stuff) minor update 10/30/10

Hey all i created this thread for ADVANCED users (and some newbies lol) so that i can better help users tweak and improve performance on their eris. My inbox was getting crazy so i thought this would be better i will still take pm questions but it would be better if we can all learn here. This isn't really a place to report bugs as it would be better to contact your respective developer or post in that developers thread. I will try my very best to get the best performance out of your eris and hopefully we will have some fun along the way. So hopefully this can help take some of the load off of the developers threads and reduce noob-age.
I ONLY ASK THAT IF USERS WANT TO TWEAK I STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU EITHER..........
1) PURCHASE ROOT EXPLORER FROM THE MARKET OR THE FREE ESTRONGS FILE EXPLORER APP FROM THE MARKET WHICH ALSO ALLOWS ROOT ACCESS AS WELL.... BUT I THINK ROOT EXPLORER IS BETTER IMHO.
2) HAVE ADB SET UP FOR YOURSELVES AT HOME OR KNOWLEDGEABLE OF ADB. I WILL NOT HELP YOU SET UP ADB OR THE SDK
ALSO I RECOMEND PURCHING THE FULL VERSION OF TITANIUM BACKUP AS IT IS AN INVALUABLE TOOL FOR ROOTED USERS AND MAKES BACKING UP AND TWEAKING MUCH EASIER FOR NEWBIES PLUS IT HAS SOME REALLY AWSOME FEATURES
so hopefully this will give us fun things to do in between releases from our devs. And always remember to donate to these awesome awesome eris devs for their hard work and commitment to us.
i want to keep an open discussion thread, nothing is off the table.
kernels
kitchens
cooking
roms
tweaks
hacks
apps
fixes
workarounds
you name it lets talk
lets figure it out together while learning along the way
Things are always changing so if you see any errors or things that need to be updated please let me know and i will be more than happy to get the correct information posted.

Moving apks and deleting dulicates...make your system efficient
YOU need either rootexplorer OR be ADB inclined to do the following....
i was thinking while doing some root exploring of ways to make this rom more solid and here are a few tips i thought everyone could use.
IF YOU DONT HAVE DUPLICATES DONT KILL YOURSELF SEARCHING JUST CONSIDER YOURSELF LUCKY. AND YOU DONT NEED THIS POST
FIRST
when i flash a Rom i always do my set up. here is an overview of what i do when i flash........
-i flash the Rom
-then i login to google as normal so i can receive Titanium Backup (TB) and Root Explorer (RE) from the market updates
if someone could be kind enough to give us a sample command to use terminal to install apps from the sd would be a great shortcut for us
-move those two apps from data/app to system/app
-then i do a full wipe (huh a full wipe you say....system files are never wiped....they can only be flashed over, so TB and RE will still be there)
-clean nand (so if you get crazy and screw up you can easily start over)
-Rom surgery
-Restore
-login to google last and sync
-batt tweaks and extras
this process IMHO makes your rom way more efficient than flashing, login and syncing.
OK
first thing i do when i flash a rom is to remove junk
i navigate with either explorer to system/app folder
then i remove all the useless apps i dont use, need or want
AND/OR remove the "ONE USE" apps (like setupwizard.apk only need it once or none at all if your a pro )
this reduces the ROMs footprint making it smaller
the smaller the Rom the better the faster
here are some things i like to rip out of system/app folder....
ADWLauncher.apk (make sure you have another launcher first i use lanucher pro)
Mail.apk (i use gmail)
Twitter.apk (i currently dont tweet)
ProTips.apk
HtcCalibrate.apk (after i calibrate of course)
Launcher2.apk(why have a bunch of other launchers you dont use hogging memory get rid of them)
MagicSmokeWallpapers.apk (this dont work for me but other do)
Carhomegoogle.apk ONLY
etc. there are others you can remove as well depending on you
and we will experiment to find more......
NEXT
i like to move IMPORTANT apks or apps from the data/app folder to the system/app folder epically if your Rom dev has not updated the gapps lately or you cant get access to the latest gapps.zip.
if you do not then you will end up with a lot of duplicate apps installed in your system when ever you receive a gapps update and that wastes memory and will cause memory issues in the future and it screws with autokiller
i like to move my favorite launcher (launcher pro paid) to the same place where launchers go, in the system/app folder (why have your launcher where regular apps go and get killed by autokiller) i think this is better for the system and doesn't hog your app data space plus it adds stability to your launcher.
here are some things i like to move into system/app.....
i like move into system/app are
launchers (stabilze launcher)
keyboards (should speed up keyboard strokes)
root tools and IMPORTANT apps (R.E. T.B.)
security apps (never deleted or wiped in case of theft, hoping thief is not nerdy)
any of the latest gapps update
and some others
this way if any issue occurs wipe and restore is easy as pie
IMPORTANT: APPS IN THE SYSTEM FOLDERS DO NOT GET WIPED OR DELETED DURING A FACTORY DATA WIPE OR DALVIK WIPE.....THEY CAN ONLY BE FLASHED OVER BY A ROM(OVERWRITTEN)
APPS IN THE DATA FOLDERS WILL GET DELETED DURING A FACTORY WIPE......BUT NOT DALVIK
i know we are ALL have at least one pair of identical (double apks in the system)
-but the identical apks have different names
-on is in data/app the other is in system/app
if you have updated ANY google app then chances are that you may have some double apps on your system wasting. when we update these google apks 'think' the rom comes with the apk already and is stored in the protected system/app folder WHILE the actual update is stored in the data/app folder (or where regular apps go) under a different name
EXAMPLE
google maps
-MAPS.apk ........is stored system/app
-com.google.android.app.map-1.apk........is stored in the data/app (this is the latest update of google maps and should replace the older MAPS.apk in system/app)
-these are the SAME APKs
hmmm so think gmaps is 5-6 megs in size and you have 2 of them so thats like 10-12 megs in your system, get rid of the old one.
there are two thing you can do here with two different benefits
-you can either remove the copy from either the data OR system folders depending on what you prefer.
if you remove the old app from system/app that means easier updates with now file moving BUT less app storage
OR move from data/app to system/app which means less FCs, more other app memory, and dealing with future updates and moving each app.
i like to move the new apks to the system/app where they belong
unstable Launcher PRO
my launcher was very unstable for a while wasn't a big deal for me
soo i decided to move my launcher to the system/app folder like all the other launchers....
I think the instability of that launcher was because of AUTOKILLER thinking this is just a regular app in data/app which it was at the moment. i may be wrong but autokiller doesnt kill system apps. so i move my launcher there and guess what now my launcher is much better and faster and stable beacuse you now have lots more memory.
SPEED TIP: in spare parts speed up your transition and animation windows to FAST
MOVING APPS ADVANCED SHORTCUT
i finally figure out a great short cut for moving apps
-first rename and put your favorite file manager (ROOT EXPLO) onto the sd.
to be even faster rename and put your launcher and TB on there too.
-after flashing a rom bypass the setup (touch the android screen) to home screen.
-open terminal
-type
SU
cd sdcard
busybox install yourapp.apk /data/app
-now you have the file explorer ready to go
instead of trying to restore wipe restore.
and hopefully you know what to do next.
so to summarize...
-get rid of junk you dont use and free up that memory
-move apps to the proper locations in system/app AND/OR data/app
-make sure you dont have multiple google apps using different names
"MAPS.apk" and "com.google.android.app.map-1.apk" IS THE SAME APP IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. remove the old and put the new in system/app
make sure your main launcher is in system app so it doesn't keep getting killed by auto killer settings and reloading
Replace THESE apps = with THESE apps
system/app = data/app
Gmail.apk = com.google.android.apps.gm-1.apk
ChrometoPhone.apk = com.google.android.apps.chrometophone-1.apk
Maps.apk = com.google.android.apps.maps-1.apk
CarHomeGoogle.apk = com.google.android.carhome-1.apk
GoogleSearch.apk = com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox-1.apk
Googles.apk = com.google.android.appsunveil-1.apk
SuperUser.apk = com.noshufou.android.su-1.apk
AutoKiller = com.rs.autokiller-2.apk
TitaniumBackup = com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup-2.apk
Twittter = (forget)
Voice= com.google.android.apps.gv-1.apk i think
YouTube=
delete OLD in system/app = move NEW from data/app to system/app
YES i did all those with success more memory and speed and a massive increase in overall Rom stability
there may be more
BUT ALL THESE HAVE DUPLICATE APPS USING DIFFERENT NAMES stored in data/app and/or system/app WHEN the latest update should be system/app IMHO to prevent AUTOKILLER from always killing i believe autokiller will try to kill data apps first before system apps.
i still have my auto killer set at optimum and things work even better now
and i gained 25mb of system memory no more Force closes

Batt tweak custom set up process (a 1-2 day process to complete)
How to increase battery life
first off battery life depends on many factors.....
where you live, work, and the daily place you travel to.
im one of the lucky ones who has a cell tower down the street from me here in S. FL.
WARNING: IF you multitask alllllll day on your phone then this is not for you.This is more beneficial when your phone is at rest or in an idle state or screen off state.
Others may not be so lucky and may live in a bad signal area....which causes your phone to constantly search and listen for signals.
Also battery life could depend on the widgets you use or apps that you have active.
Example: Beautiful Widgets beautiful home is a constantly running app that also
-on occasion activates the GPS to acquire location
-on occasion downloads update weather data
Example: Facebook Widget
-by default update statuses every 15 minutes, so every 15 minutes its downloading data
so i usually adjust these settings to my personal liking
Now for the battery calibration process and how it works
Decad3nce port of Colins_ph batt tweak allows us to use some setcpu profiles without setcpu.
Setcpu and its widgets were resource monsters crippling our system and drain battery life as well. kiss setcpu goodbye we wont be needing it anymore.
the batt tweak calibration process takes some patience as the entire process could take 1-3 days to complete depending. Also i highly recommend using the latest CFS kernel by Conap as it provides extra battery savings
we will be running colins batt tweak during the calibration process so that both calibrate together, which makes a lot of sense as opposed to doning them separately.
here is the process and DS's custom settings for batt tweak 1 (the first release)
please remember to prepare yourself not to interrupt the process. the draining process may die while you are at work or during an emergency. so be prepared to have little use of your phone.
-flash latest CFS kernel found here
-flash batt tweak attached at the bottom of this post until its updated and fixed....more info in thread here
-turn off phone and let charge for a few hours or more to ensure that it is full
-when ready boot into recovery mode and wipe the batt stats and power off
-unplug phone and power on (charging cable not needed) you may experience weird battery levels or fast draining (this is normal)
-immediately open TERMINAL and activate colins_ batt tweak
with command batt-cfg and go to option 3 and input these settings........
I think this works much better
this schedueler keeps the cpu much lower
here if anyone want to try it out
underclock
ondemand
anticipatory
19200
710400
19200
710400
19200
710400 (ONLY IF YOU KNOW YOU CAN 768000)
90
15
15
15
- close terminal and operate phone normally if you want...i highly suggest leaving it alone as much as possible until it drains completely dead.
-use a cpu monitoring app just to make sure the cpu is idle i have seen mine dip down 80mhz if not then you need to kill active open apps
-let phone naturally drain completely until its dead (could take a full day or two mine was 48hrs with some usage)
-when dead make sure by pressing power rapidly a few times
-while off let phone recharge for as long as possible maybe four hours or more the mor the better
-when ready unplug phone and turn on
-when powered on reactivate batt tweak using terminal batt-cfg, then option 9 to save and your done (once setup all you need is option 9 to save and reactivate)
-wtf DS my phone is on but reads less than 100% battery. this is normal replug while on and let charge to full
- when full the process is now complete and you can use phone as normal
REMEMBER THAT SOME ROMS DO NOT ACTIVATE THE TWEAK AND YOU WILL NEED TO DO SO UNTIL YOUR DEV AS ADD THE SCRIPT TO ACTIVATE ON A REBOOT. SO UNTIL THEN OPTION 9 IN BATT TWEAK WILL DO THIS
use an app like system panel or seepu to look at cpu speeds make sure the cpu isnt running at 100%.
try to close apps if you see this but a reboot usually fixes this.
these settings allow for the cpu to use lower clock speeds when idle. much lower than the stock 245000 settings yes were going to the minimum 19200 with little to no side effects or slow downs, but the benefits are more when in a idle state. But it WILL drain at about same rate when your using it heavily.
make sure the tweak is running by either opening terminal and enter pidof batt.sh you should see the processing id number if its running.
OR for a full read out of stats do batt-diag
and observe the time in state read out at the bottom. if you see values next to the 19200 clock speeds........SUCCESS!
PS if you screen on time is 3 hours and your phone is dead, DONT BLAME THE BATT TWEAK....BLAME YOURSELF !
ENJOY

alright now lets get some real stuff in here....lol

jdog94 said:
alright now lets get some real stuff in here....lol
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just trying to a make a nice neat place to put all my post on past tweaks for users and to do some advanced stuff in the future stay tuned

DS36 said:
just trying to a make a nice neat place to put all my post on past tweaks for users and to do some advanced stuff in the future stay tuned
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good, i need this!

Great idea"!"!!

HAI! Hau do i route mai fone? I wantz haxorz warez an wireles heatherin fo free intanetz!
So seriously, is this a fan-club for DS? I'm totally in if it is.

sticktodrum said:
HAI! Hau do i route mai fone? I wantz haxorz warez an wireles heatherin fo free intanetz!
So seriously, is this a fan-club for DS? I'm totally in if it is.
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LMAO can you please please be my threads personal comedian

Keep this thread development related or Ill move it to General, Is this a support thread or something? Something about tweaks?

Its all about me

Captainkrtek said:
Keep this thread development related or Ill move it to General, Is this a support thread or something? Something about tweaks?
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this is a thread to help old and new users tweak and mod their phones and other advanced stuff
trying to put all the knowledgeable stuff in to one easy thread and it will be dev related
im just started this thread im not done i have lots to do here
my in box is getting a little crazy
this should benefit all and provides basic dev techniques and instruction
this is the beginning stages
plus should reduce the number of faqs for everyone
less fights
less arguments
and less captainrtek (but thats not a bad thing)

DS36 said:
this is a thread to help old and new users tweak and mod their phones and other advanced stuff
trying to put all the knowledgeable stuff in to one easy thread and it will be dev related
im just started this thread im not done i have lots to do here
my in box is getting a little crazy
this should benefit all and provides basic dev techniques and instruction
this is the beginning stages
plus should reduce the number of faqs for everyone
less fights
less arguments
and less captainrtek (but thats not a bad thing)
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Haha gotcha, and thanks

Thanks in advance, DS.

roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Thanks in advance, DS.
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Looking forward to working together with everyone learning along the way.
Will be post new batt tweak setting in the morn keep an eye out
Do not up date to the latest version of batt tweak it doesn't work.
Sent from my FroyoEris using XDA App

Brilliant.

sticktodrum said:
HAI! Hau do i route mai fone? I wantz haxorz warez an wireles heatherin fo free intanetz!
So seriously, is this a fan-club for DS? I'm totally in if it is.
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Lol I haz cheez burger
Sent from my FroyoEris using XDA App

rick311 said:
good, i need this!
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hey man are you ready
im going to post in the third POST what i have written down so far
but its NOT complete yet....so take a gander

DS36 said:
hey man are you ready
im going to post in the third POST what i have written down so far
but its NOT complete yet....so take a gander
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ok, i did all the setting tweaks that you recommend. do i have to input them every time i reboot? i dont see a setting that restores my previous settings.

Hey DS,
Great idea to help newbs like me! So after reading your first two posts I looked where my apps are, and every one of them seems to be in system/app... I checked in data/ and can't see anything in there (unless it's sdcard/data, in which case I have folders for Beautiful Widgets and Titanium). I'm using the EStrongs FE, although I don't think that would make a difference. Also, couldn't find any of the duplicate apps you were talking about either (I only have com.google.android.apps.maps.apk, for example). I'm on xtrROM 4.6 and used Titanium Backup to restore my apps.

Dialer app and other unneeded apps.

I keep finding Dialer running on my 101. How do I remove it entirely and what other apps can I remove?
Sent from my A101IT using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

First of all your device must done permanent rooted.
I had used this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=930197
After rooted you can move/remove these apps from /system/app to /sdcard/backup via Root Explorer app.
- DemoMode.apk
- OnlineRegistration.apk
- Protips.apk
- QuickSearchBox.apk
- StartupWizard.apk
- TelephonyProvider.apk
- Phone.apk <-- when you move/remove this app an error message will show as force close, reboot your device.
Do it with your own risk.

jakkrith said:
First of all your device must done permanent rooted.
I had used this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=930197
After rooted you can move/remove these apps from /system/app to /sdcard/backup via Root Explorer app.
- DemoMode.apk
- OnlineRegistration.apk
- Protips.apk
- QuickSearchBox.apk
- StartupWizard.apk
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Yeah these can go. There is another one the firmware upgrade thing I don't have access to my device just now but I suspect it can go too.
jakkrith said:
- TelephonyProvider.apk
- Phone.apk <-- when you move/remove this app an error message will show as force close, reboot your device.
Do it with your own risk.
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And again with the TelephonyProvider.apk and Phone.apk. I can't understand why people want to remove them.
It's not because the Archos is not a phone that they are not needed to support the Android operating system and all the apps that you are going to be install.
TelephonyProvider.apk is only 49k and probably does contain no real functionality only entrypoints for other apps that expect the functionality to be there.
Phone.apk contains the complete contacts management and probably also some empty entrypoints that other applications expect.
So even IF you could remove them it would cripple about 50% of all apps you could install via the market.

wdl1908 said:
And again with the TelephonyProvider.apk and Phone.apk. I can't understand why people want to remove them.
It's not because the Archos is not a phone that they are not needed to support the Android operating system and all the apps that you are going to be install.
TelephonyProvider.apk is only 49k and probably does contain no real functionality only entrypoints for other apps that expect the functionality to be there.
Phone.apk contains the complete contacts management and probably also some empty entrypoints that other applications expect.
So even IF you could remove them it would cripple about 50% of all apps you could install via the market.
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I'm noticing this is a real bugbear for you!
I think people initially started asking about this because of this thread on the Nook forum. It was suggested that removing these would shut off the cell standby service, and improve battery life ... dramatically.
Have to say, I'm using Uruk 0.5, which has Telephony.apk and phone.apk removed, and have not had any problems installing any apps, using contacts etc.

fisha21 said:
I'm noticing this is a real bugbear for you!
I think people initially started asking about this because of this thread on the Nook forum. It was suggested that removing these would shut off the cell standby service, and improve battery life ... dramatically.
Have to say, I'm using Uruk 0.5, which has Telephony.apk and phone.apk removed, and have not had any problems installing any apps, using contacts etc.
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Good for you did you read the thread? on page 14 ther are some interesting observations about removing those files. It does not affect battery life. But I guess impression are everything. Anyway I still suspect people are going to run into trouble by removing these things.

wdl1908 said:
Good for you did you read the thread? on page 14 ther are some interesting observations about removing those files. It does not affect battery life. But I guess impression are everything. Anyway I still suspect people are going to run into trouble by removing these things.
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have to say, no I didn't read much of that thread! Doubt it's something I would have bothered removing myself, but thought I'd mention that the setup I'm using hd them removed and it didn't seem to be causing any problems.
Though, if I do get odd problems with contacts, apps not working properly, I'll know what to check first, won't I

After removed TelephonyProvider.apk and Phone.apk I have not found any problem about Market app download. Contact app still work fine and can sync with Google contact.

I can't see noticeable battery saving by removing both phone.apk and telephoneprovider.apk; but agree removing them don't have any negative effects so far

[Q] What is safe to delete?

Alright, so I literally want to turn my Magic into a phone and nothing else. I want to delete as much system apps as possible while still keeping the device functional as a phone for calling and text messaging. I'm using Htcclay's SuperFast/StupidFast ROM, and I've already stripped it down quite a bit, but I wish to make it as slim as possible. This phone won't be internet enabled at all, so anything to do with networking isn't necessary.
Here is a list of system apps which remain:
rebootwidget.apk
TtsService.apk
TelephonyProvider.apk
Superuser.apk
Stk.apk
SpareParts.apk
SettingsProvider.apk
Settings.apk
PicoTts.apk
Phone.apk
PackageInstaller.apk
NetworkLocation.apk
Mms.apk
GoogleSettingsProvider.apk
GoogleContactsProvider.apk
GoogleApps.apk
GlobalSearch.apk
FieldTest.apk
DrmProvider.apk
ContactsProvider.apk
Contacts.apk
ApplicationsProvider.apk
I'm using AppAdmin to remove these apps. I just need to know what's safe to remove without affecting the phone's basic functionality.
Also, is there anything else I can do to save battery life? As you can see, I'm going for efficiency here.
Thanks plenty in advanced!!

rebootwidget.apk
Stk.apk
GoogleApps.apk
GlobalSearch.apk
safe to delete

wingsaba said:
rebootwidget.apk
Stk.apk
GoogleApps.apk
GlobalSearch.apk
safe to delete
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Pretty sure you can toss SpareParts.

DonJuan692006 said:
Pretty sure you can toss SpareParts.
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yep...but it's useful

Thanks!
What about the files with "tts" in them? TtsService.apk and PicoTts.apk - are those for "text to speech" ? if so, I don't need that. Or will that just cause FC's??

Bloodflame said:
Alright, so I literally want to turn my Magic into a phone and nothing else. I want to delete as much system apps as possible while still keeping the device functional as a phone for calling and text messaging. I'm using Htcclay's SuperFast/StupidFast ROM, and I've already stripped it down quite a bit, but I wish to make it as slim as possible. This phone won't be internet enabled at all, so anything to do with networking isn't necessary.
Here is a list of system apps which remain:
rebootwidget.apk
TtsService.apk
TelephonyProvider.apk
Superuser.apk
Stk.apk
SpareParts.apk
SettingsProvider.apk
Settings.apk
PicoTts.apk
Phone.apk
PackageInstaller.apk
NetworkLocation.apk
Mms.apk
GoogleSettingsProvider.apk
GoogleContactsProvider.apk
GoogleApps.apk
GlobalSearch.apk
FieldTest.apk
DrmProvider.apk
ContactsProvider.apk
Contacts.apk
ApplicationsProvider.apk
I'm using AppAdmin to remove these apps. I just need to know what's safe to remove without affecting the phone's basic functionality.
Also, is there anything else I can do to save battery life? As you can see, I'm going for efficiency here.
Thanks plenty in advanced!!
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I hate to point out the obvious but why on earth would you go through all that? Just pick up an old Samsung Blast on Craigslist for $20.
It's like buying a muscle car and trying to detune it to get good gas mileage. It just doesn't make any kind of sense at all. You have the wrong tool for the job so just go get the right tool.

Or... I could not spend a dime and use what I already have...
I have a Nexus One as my main device, and I use it for everything 99% of the time. I only keep my Magic as a backup device in case the battery in my Nexus dies. My Magic has a near dead Wifi adapter, and only works on 2G with my provider. Therefore data is pretty much useless. As long as I can keep in touch with my contacts in the rare occasions that I can't use my Nexus, at least I have this.
Besides, it's not much trouble to install AppAdmin, check off the system apps I don't want, and press Delete. So far, this is the fastest I've had any ROM run on this phone. It does what I need and I'm satisfied.
Not to mention, it is still Android... which I happen to be addicted to

why would you want to do this? just curious

The phone is useless otherwise. The wifi is nearly dead. With my current provider, I only get 2G data with this device, so internet use is not even worth it. I'm left with 2 options: I could have a ROM bloated with stuff I'll never use, or I could slim it down, keeping only the useful things. It is merely a backup device anyway (see previous posts).
I have my phone set up the way I want it now. I'm satisfied. Just because you don't see the point of it, doesn't mean there isn't one. Let's face it, the Magic is a slow phone compared to what's available today. By removing apps I never use, I'm preventing rogue apps from running in the background. My Magic happens to be a 32B model, which has low memory as it is. Less apps means more available memory for what I do use. Not to mention improved battery life. After removing everything I have no use for, this is actually the fasted this phone has ever run for me.
I found the answer I was looking for. This thread should just be closed.

Fwiw I used to have a 32b device so I know how painfully slow it is. Have you tried unrooting to bone stock to see if the wifi comes alive again?
Sent from my HTC Glacier

I've done everything I could for the wifi. I think it's a hardware problem. I'm honestly not too worried about it, because I have a perfectly good Nexus One

Bloodflame said:
I've done everything I could for the wifi. I think it's a hardware problem. I'm honestly not too worried about it, because I have a perfectly good Nexus One
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Tried contacting HTC for warranty?
Sent from my HTC Glacier

I don't think the warranty will cover what i've done to this phone like I said, I'm not worried about it.
A while back, I completely disassembled it, and replaced the entire casing. It was originally white, but it's black now. I was careful, and everything was still working fine at the time. Over time, the wifi signal slowly deteriorated to the point where I have to be right next to the router to get a connection.

Bloodflame said:
I don't think the warranty will cover what i've done to this phone like I said, I'm not worried about it.
A while back, I completely disassembled it, and replaced the entire casing. It was originally white, but it's black now. I was careful, and everything was still working fine at the time. Over time, the wifi signal slowly deteriorated to the point where I have to be right next to the router to get a connection.
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lol, wow... yeah you can buy another mt3g on CL for like $50 these days anyway.

a safe way to try, use Titanium Backup freezing the app you don't want, if it doesn't FC then you can delete it, if it does FC then you can undo...

Phateless said:
I hate to point out the obvious but why on earth would you go through all that? Just pick up an old Samsung Blast on Craigslist for $20.
It's like buying a muscle car and trying to detune it to get good gas mileage. It just doesn't make any kind of sense at all. You have the wrong tool for the job so just go get the right tool.
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you don't know what you're talking about!
if you get muscle car, you can remove the high weighted materials for reaching the max performance and speed.
With no additional objects, your car turn to light weighted and will reach to best condition.
he is trying to remove the bloatwares to reach max performance.

Wow.. This battery Saver App really Works

Its stops the tablet from searching for a cell phone signal that eats up some of the battery.
Acer Iconia Phone Disabler (strange name)

zanetti2000 said:
Its stops the tablet from searching for a cell phone signal that eats up some of the battery.
Acer Iconia Phone Disabler (strange name)
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Please provide a link when posting info in future for reference
here's the reference :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14053121

I went ahead and downloaded the app..but becuase of differing opinions on the feasibility and safety in removing or changing those 2 .apk files...im a bit reluctant to actually use it. Anyone have any wordds of wisdom one way or another?
Chlballi

It's a good app but i worry cannot update to 3.1 after root it. So wait for Honeycomb 3.1. Thanks for sharing

is thera any other way to disable cell stanby? not buying this app?
i've deleted phone.apk and telephonyprovider.apk through system apps remover but cell standby is still draining my battery

Glebaka said:
is thera any other way to disable cell stanby? now buying this app?
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Well, I did the same thing - downloaded then changed my mind and uninstalled. It's nothing more than renaming the telephony.provider and phone apk's so why pay - you need to be rooted to use it anyway so why not just rename them?
BUT - there's a big issue if you need to do a hard reset and also, you will not be able to get the update because as we know, the updating procedure checks for completeness of all the apps - if any are missing, it won't install.
I'm waiting for Acer to fix this (actually it's a Google problem since many other tablets have this issue).

Convenience, maybe?
It's quick, don't have to mess with remounting /system to read/write. And when it's time to take that update, just run it again and click "Enable" and they are back to normal. After an update, you can disable them again, if they haven't fixed the battery drain issue.
docfreed said:
Well, I did the same thing - downloaded then changed my mind and uninstalled. It's nothing more than renaming the telephony.provider and phone apk's so why pay - you need to be rooted to use it anyway so why not just rename them?
BUT - there's a big issue if you need to do a hard reset and also, you will not be able to get the update because as we know, the updating procedure checks for completeness of all the apps - if any are missing, it won't install.
I'm waiting for Acer to fix this (actually it's a Google problem since many other tablets have this issue).
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I have a way that seems to work for me... I downloaded power widget, made 2g/3g toggle, clicked it, then unchecked everything. (Doesn't delete or rename anything) and my tablet no longer wastes battery on cell standby

[Q] Cell standby using battery

Since rooting my Nook touch I have had it on for 6 days. I checked the battery usage and it tells me that "cell standby" is using 87% of the battery and "phone idle" is using 12%.
Anyone ideas on how to disable those functions?
Perhaps airplane mode would disable those, but I don't know how to enter airplane mode. I do have nook color tools installed.
Thanks

I tried the airplane mode as someone suggested but i still saw cell standby and phone idle.
Sent from my CM7.1 NookColor

I actually ended up unrooting precisely due to this... I'm researching and trying to figure out a way to root w/o installing things that consider the nook as a phone... A custom rom is being produced on this thread.... Hopefully it will be a lot more close to a reader than a phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1208024

Has Anyone found a solution for the cell-stand-by problem?

You can delete /system/app/phone.apk and telephonyprovider.apk,then phone idle will disappear.

yohoc said:
You can delete /system/app/phone.apk and telephonyprovider.apk,then phone idle will disappear.
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"failed on 'Phone.apk' - Cross-device link"

I delete it in rootexplorer.

I'm wondering, Phone.apk and TelephonyProvider.apk are already installed in an unrooted nook, aren't they ?
BTW, there is a script here for the Nook Color, it should work for the Nook 2.
But I don't know if it will have a real effect on battery life or not ...

Thanks!
yohoc said:
You can delete /system/app/phone.apk and telephonyprovider.apk,then phone idle will disappear.
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I just changed the file extensions, as mentioned in the "[script] remove cell service" thread, also seems to work.

IMO, both "cell standby" and "phone idle" and just about all actions that nook does when it is in sleep mode. Removing these apk's however helps just a bit because there are none useless phone apps running in background, but there still will be "cell standby" thing in battery stats.

domi.nos said:
IMO, both "cell standby" and "phone idle" and just about all actions that nook does when it is in sleep mode. Removing these apk's however helps just a bit because there are none useless phone apps running in background, but there still will be "cell standby" thing in battery stats.
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I just made the change, and actually, it's "Phone idle" that's still in the stats. "Cell standby" which was using about three times as much juice as "Wi-fi" and "Phone idle" combined, is now gone, and so I'm hopeful for improved battery life.
I think, BTW, that the "Phone" in "Phone idle" doesn't refer to the actual phone app--the name probably actually means "Device idle".

OK, after a day of testing (and contrary to what others have said), I see a dramatic change in battery usage. Last night, when I got home from work, my Nook Touch was at about 90% (or maybe that was at work), and then, by midnight, it had drained to 60%, while idle the whole time. I then renamed the two APK files, recharged it overnight, and just checked again a bit before midnight, and it's at 98%.

This thread seems forgoten. I used Linux to access to /system/app of my unrooted nook. I removed many apk files ( Shop, Social, Phone, TtsService..) and put coolreader.apk then carefully watch my nook. The result is amazing, I can use Coolreader to read. Moreover. My battery was enhanced, It lost approximately 2% for a day of sleeping.

Can you give a list of which apks were safe to remove?

nobricks said:
Can you give a list of which apks were safe to remove?
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Accessories
AccountAndSyncSettings
BnAuthenticationService
BnCloudRequestSvc
Browser
CloudService
ContactsProvider
DemoMode
Music
NookCommunity
Phone
PicoTts
QuickStartActivity
Shop
Social
TelephonyProvider
TtsService
WaveformDownloader
My nook still run normally.

[Q] Cell standby using battery - Rooted Nook
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Accessories
AccountAndSyncSettings
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My nook still run normally.
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Is it safe to do this on a rooted?
Do I need something besides a file explorer and renaming the files extensions?
Awaiting your kind reply,

sarmasm said:
Is it safe to do this on a rooted?
Do I need something besides a file explorer and renaming the files extensions?
Awaiting your kind reply,
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At least, now, I can read ebook and mangas in my nook. Other functions ( web, games..), I haven't tested.
I do not use and root method posted in XDA, I use linux to access in /system/app and modify files. :fingers-crossed:

ectacy said:
Accessories
AccountAndSyncSettings
BnAuthenticationService
BnCloudRequestSvc
Browser
CloudService
ContactsProvider
DemoMode
Music
NookCommunity
Phone
PicoTts
QuickStartActivity
Shop
Social
TelephonyProvider
TtsService
WaveformDownloader
My nook still run normally.
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Can anyone confirm that this is correct?

Gambitmo said:
Can anyone confirm that this is correct?
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Depends on what you want to do with your device, I guess some of these (Shop? Bn*? etc) might be needed to connect to the B&N store.
For reference, my list is:
AirRuntime
BnAuthenticationService
BnCloudRequestSvc
Browser
Calculator
CloudService
DemoMode
DeviceManager
DeviceRegistrator
Gallery
GenieWidget
Home
Launcher
Library
Music
NookCommunity
NookHWTest.bak
Oobe
Phone
PicoTts
QuickStartActivity
ReaderRMSDK (I use the kindle app and ebookdroid for reading)
ServiceOne
Shop
Social
TelephonyProvider
TtsService
WaveformDownloader
And you can find in these forums some other variations on the theme.

I've tried ES explorer and Rootexplorer and I couldn't rename or delete any apk in system. The permission from superuser was granted. What should i do?