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[GUIDE] About Android and Optimizing Sony Xperia X10

Since Sony Xperia X10 is now running on 2.1, topics related to 1.6 is not mentioned here.
This thread are created based on compilation of other threads related to optimization, and meant as an entry point for user interested in optimization.
Understanding your Android
Just to put something short, so we can understand our Android and some points related to optimization better.
Android is an open source operating system owned by Google that is maintained by Android Open Source Project (AOSP). The operating system is based on modified Linux kernel, where most of the application is written in Java language and running on DalvikJVM.
Android do things differently than old generation OS like Symbian, and below is the explanation related to performance.
Unlike Symbian, Android designed to have as many as application loaded and running in the OS, it maintain list of least used application that will be unloaded when a requests for more memory is made when the free OS memory is already low.
These are the nature of JVM, where allocation and deallocation of memory is managed by garbage collector as doing things in bulk is faster then working with small chunks. So you don't have to be alarmed when you open a memory viewer application and see your Android is running on low memory. Freeing RAM with task killer is only momentarily, as you uses the phone again, the free memory will goes down again.
Android phones stores system application, data and files internally in NAND flash area and stores user data in internal memory storage or external storage such as SD cards. This memory is different than your operating sytem memory.
Operating system memory is memory allocated for the kernel, native application and most application you download from market. Installing a lot of application will not directly reduce free RAM, nor uninstalling or removing files will increase free RAM directly. Action such as removing ringtones, wallpaper and even Sony PC Companion ISO will not free your RAM
In general there are two type of android application. One is a standalone application that only run if you open the application, and the other one is running even you haven't open the application which called service.
By design, guideline and suggested practice, application should not continue to run lengthy processing when it get pushed to background via home button, back button or switching to other application; properly build application will just go idle. Which means you should be less paranoid about application eating you processing power.
But service is meant to run lengthy operation as they don't have user interface and runs in background. Some service meanth for pushing or pulling data from internet, reading your files and do processing like playing songs, or just doing something then update the widget just to make you happy. Unnecessary services are the things that you should be aiming if you want to optimize your Android.
General FAQ about Optimizing Sony Xperia X10 2.1
I just updated to 2.1 and my phone really feel slower than 1.6
Since you had been using 1.6 for quite some time, your SD card should have quite a lot of photo and media. Just after you updated to 2.1, and add your Google and maybe Facebook account, the new Face Recognition service is actually already starting to scans all your photo, then when your Google and Facebook contact arrived, it will try it best to match photo and contact. This new Face Recognition really kicks hard in your processor, then after a while your phone will be as fast and even better than old stock 1.6.
I still feel that the phone is slow, is there any simple and quick way to optimize
The simple and quick to optimize your phone instantly is by changing the 2.1 dalvikvm to JIT capable dalvikjvm. You can read and apply them by reading the thread referred below, but before you do that open the below link in background tab and please do read more first.
Android 2.1 OPTIMISER V002 by Jerpelea
2.1 Customizer v0.99.1 by ttxdragon
Both optimizer contains script that will erase your "junk/unused" application from your phone, be sure to read them first before executing. My suggestion is you apply JIT modification first, before going optimizing by remove your "junk/unused" application.
Please do remember that you have to Root your X10 first.
How to root the phone
You can root the phone using methods below.
OneClick z4root Android Application
SuperOneClick Windows Application
Is [INSERT APP NAME] here is save to remove?
By removing unused application, you will gain certain amount of performance gain. Below are the links with app list.
2.1 Customizer v0.99.1 by ttxdragon
Official List of Apps that Can be Removed from a 2.1 x10 by exekias
And still a lot more in other Sony Ericsson X10 forum section but those two is quite complete
And in case you forgot to make backup you can go to
2.1 System Apps - In Case You've Deleted Them by XperiaX10iUser
After doing all that my Quadrant Benchmark is still low
You should run Quadrant as least two or three time or until you get best score, the first one usually yield low score, because a lot of memory allocation process to Quadrant happening during the first run.

Tuning Utilities
Memory Usage - Application to see how much memory used by your application and services
Advanced Task Manager - Application to see is your application running on foreground, background or idle and its memory usage
Quadrant Standard - General benchmarking tools to see if your changes make improvement
Linpack - Processor benchmarking
Titanium Backup Pro - Back up application, the paid version can freeze your app rather then uninstalling it.
Fine Tuning Guide
About Widget, Application shortcut and Live Wallpaper
Even though widgets looks really good in your phone, some widgets required simple periodic process for updating its display, some have a full blown service running to support it. A very instant example that you can see in your phone is the Power Control widget and the new Status Switch widget.
Power Control widget update triggered by configuration change such as wifi on and off, while Status Switch widget which have a battery level is triggered by a running service. Just put Status Switch widget then go to Settings -> Application -> Running Services. Then you will see there a Status Switch Update service running in background to update the battery level.
By selectively put widgets on your home screen, you can gain extra processing and memory. Timescape widget is even worse, it have three service running to support it.
Application shortcuts also uses extra memory in your home screen app and your home screen app is usually system persistent, reducing number of shortcut will give extra RAM and reducing the required rendering process during scroll.
Live Wallpaper just as the name said looks really nice and require extra memory and process of course.
Tuning via build.prop
Some value can be added and modified into build to increase the performance of X10.
dalvik.vm.heapsize=32m
This will change the maximum memory size per application. If you decrease the value, smaller application starts faster, but big application like games will prone to crash, if you increase the value too much, smaller application takes longer to start, but big application will extra gain benefit from less garbage collecting.
Reference: Test: How changing the max amount of memory per VM Heap can effect your ROM (Cyanogen)
windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=60
This will change the maximum number of touch screen gesture events per second, the bigger the value, the smoother the scrolling will be
There still some more build.prop tweaks that you can do, but not all of them will be processed by X10 as each device behave differently.

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Nice clean guide, should help newcomers. Good work!

synlar said:
Nice clean guide, should help newcomers. Good work!
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Thanks, but i am quite depressed after reading it my self and found that i make a lot of typo. Had to revise and revise again.. lol.

Nice piece of work there Xeviro..

Can you post your build.prop please i cant find the windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=60 one in mine.

Wolfbreak said:
Can you post your build.prop please i cant find the windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=60 one in mine.
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That one you add by your self to you build.prop. If you look further in google, there still a lot of other build properties that you can set to Android.
There is another way to add and test build.prop instantly by using adb shell command "setprop key value" and "getprop key". Some property will take effect immediately, some require you to reboot.

How do you prove that the windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=60 actually works? After applying that I tried input benchmark and it still showed 33hz.

ooidort said:
How do you prove that the windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=60 actually works? After applying that I tried input benchmark and it still showed 33hz.
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Ok, i just checked, that for this build.prop property to take effect, you need to reboot the device first. I just test on my, giving 10 and 200 in value. With 10, the input benchmark showing less then 20hz most of the time, while with 200 it gives me 40hz+.
Also you can see if you scroll the app list with 10 and 200 value, you can see the difference.

xeviro said:
Ok, i just checked, that for this build.prop property to take effect, you need to reboot the device first. I just test on my, giving 10 and 200 in value. With 10, the input benchmark showing less then 20hz most of the time, while with 200 it gives me 40hz+.
Also you can see if you scroll the app list with 10 and 200 value, you can see the difference.
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I definitely notice the difference between 10 and 200, but it still doesn't go above 33hz... Maybe it's the framerate cap doing it's thing?

xeviro said:
Thanks, but i am quite depressed after reading it my self and found that i make a lot of typo. Had to revise and revise again.. lol.
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Good write up! I was actually going to say something about the typos/errors, because I'm a jerk, but, you noticed them too, so I feel satisfied.
I hope people will read your little intro about RAM and realize a task killer's real purpose is to kill rogue services that kill battery.

xeviro said:
That one you add by your self to you build.prop. If you look further in google, there still a lot of other build properties that you can set to Android.
There is another way to add and test build.prop instantly by using adb shell command "setprop key value" and "getprop key". Some property will take effect immediately, some require you to reboot.
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But where do i need them to add? At Beginning or at End or Middle?

iead1 said:
Good write up! I was actually going to say something about the typos/errors, because I'm a jerk, but, you noticed them too, so I feel satisfied.
I hope people will read your little intro about RAM and realize a task killer's real purpose is to kill rogue services that kill battery.
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Please forgive my typo and grammars, i life in country where people simplify their way of communication. I cannot talk proper now. hahaha
Wolfbreak said:
But where do i need them to add? At Beginning or at End or Middle?
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Anywhere

xeviro said:
Please forgive my typo and grammars, i life in country where people simplify their way of communication. I cannot talk proper now. hahaha
Anywhere
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If i add this to the end of my build.prop my phone does not accept SIM unlock code anymore .... ??
EDIT: Strange, second time it worked ... btw. what is the default value ?

Ive added dalvik.vm.heapsize=32m to see what diff it will make and well..
wow.. it killed my phone.
It will show sony ericsson on the screen when you turn it on and just stay there!
So yeah... how can i fix this?

It's bricked, you'll need to reflash the software!
:-(
OP- Great thread, thank you!
Post on my Rooted 2.1 X10i using Tapatalk Pro and Swype

Yeah i knida noticed...
fixed now but im not trying that heapsize thing again..

Anyone here have the original/untouched nordic build.prop? I'm really appreciate it if you share it here. ^_^
Sent from my Xperia X10i (2.1 and rooted) using XDA app

Seansmit17 said:
Ive added dalvik.vm.heapsize=32m to see what diff it will make and well..
wow.. it killed my phone.
It will show sony ericsson on the screen when you turn it on and just stay there!
So yeah... how can i fix this?
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Seansmit17 said:
Yeah i knida noticed...
fixed now but im not trying that heapsize thing again..
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Its working correctly in my phone, and this heapsize settings is the most common one in android modding. you go check google and see the results.
I also attached build.prop from my phone.

CPU maxing @ full speed, 100% load after 24-48 hrs? FIX FOUND!

First off, I cannot take credit for finding this, I was referred to a bug report thread on the Google Android site by XDA user aweaver33, who I thank VERY much for pointing me on the right direction.
So, several of us have had this issue with various custom kernels, where after typically 24-48 hours, the phone would slow to a crawl. If you were to open an app like System Panel, you would see that the CPU load was pegged at 95%+, and speed would be maxed out. You would also see that the process using all the CPU is Android System.
The problem has to do with the file "time_in_state", which literally keeps track of how much time the CPU spends at any given speed in MHz. There is a limit to the size this file is supposed to reach, 256 bytes. Once it exceeds this size, the next time Android tries to access it, it flips out and gets stuck trying, and pegs the CPU. A lot of devs and users blamed SetCPU, and it is true that SetCPU does have an EFFECT on this issue, it does NOT cause it, and indeed the issue can occur whether SetCPU is installed or not.
The issue is brought on by custom kernels that add additional frequency steps for the CPU to choose from, which causes that log file to grow. Which is why older or stock kernels will not cause this. Some ROMS incorporate a workaround so you may not have this issue.
Anyways, the issue is explained better in the link aweaver33 gave me. I will link to the original thread I posted with the conversation we had and the link he gave. I can confirm that, using the info he gave me, the issue has been fixed. I am currently just over 120 hours of uptime with no problems.
Here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1082363&highlight=stock+kernel+gpu+
EDIT: attached the script files for those who want them. You can drop one or the other (NOT BOTH) in /etc/init.d if your rom has this folder already (creating the folder and adding it won't work), or you can download Autostart (root) from the market for free, and drop the file in /data/opt (create the opt folder). This difference between the two is one runs only once at boot, the other runs every five minutes. If you use SetCPU, you need the one that runs every five mins, as every time you open SetCPU it resets permissions on the time_in_state file.

flashable zip? not everyone is comfortable with code and scripts

If I knew how, I would. I wasn't even comfortable with it. But I was so tired of the locking up, I was willing to try anything (after a Nandroid of course). I'm not sure you *could* do this in a flashable zip. I can post the script I'm using. It only runs once after reboot, unlike aweaver's, which runs every five mins (good if you're using SetCPU, as opening SetCPU resets the permissions of the time in state file).
This script should work if dropped into /etc/init.d. *If* your ROM has that folder by default. Mine does not, so I had to download a free app from the market called Autostart which is free and very small. For that app you create a folder in /data/ and drop the script in there.
Sorry guys but I'm no dev so this is the best I can do, maybe someone else can make it flashable?

would it also be fixed by simply deleteing the log file as well rather than setting it to unreadable

It can't be deleted. System instantly replaces it.

bast525 said:
It can't be deleted. System instantly replaces it.
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:/ i suppose when it is replaced it would be with a fresh one deleting would fix it for 24-48 hours till it got filled again humm i wonder if a script could be auto executed every 12 hours to delete it rather than just make it unreadable.
Do you know if it is a problem in gingerbread as well?

mirrin said:
:/ i suppose when it is replaced it would be with a fresh one deleting would fix it for 24-48 hours till it got filled again humm i wonder if a script could be auto executed every 12 hours to delete it rather than just make it unreadable.
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I don't think you can delete it. I can't figure out how to.
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Do you know if it is a problem in gingerbread as well?
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Issue 9733 is still listed as New, so either Google hasn't fixed it in Gingerbread or they just don't bother statusing their bug reports.

Why do you feel the need to delete it? If you are trying to delete it, you are likely using Root Explorer. Why not just use that to change the permissions of the file? Tap and hold, select permissions, and unchecked all permissions except for the top left one. This will stop the bug, but the permissions will be reset after a reboot, or after opening SetCPU.
I imagine that deleting the file might actually cause FC's or may cause the same bug but I dunno since it wont delete.

dyetheskin said:
flashable zip? not everyone is comfortable with code and scripts
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I've never created a flashable zip before, but I'd be willing to look into it if the demand is really there. The problem I see is that I'd have to make certain assumptions about how everybody's ROMs are configured. It looks like the most portable approach would be to append a line to the end of /bootcomplete.inc.rc. Do people really find it easier to boot into recovery and flash a zip than to add one line to a file themselves? Personally, I'm always hesitant to flash a zip other than a full ROM because I'd be uncertain how it interacts with other changes I've made to my system.

Inc is
not bad
But. 48hours?
Sent overrow from my Optimized Inc using XDA App

[HowTo] Tweak your Archos

Hi,
recently i came upon a thread with someone asking :
how to optimize the archos to be quicker ?
As this is propably a question many people might ask (even I still do ) I thought about creating a thread about. This is not just to answer his question but also for all u nerds out there to corrent me - as I might be wrong in some points AND to gather new options to speed up the device. This is what i have learned yet...
Anyway all of the things I list here require root as far as I know. So get your device rooted or abandon the Thread
ALL THINGS IN THIS THREAD ARE WITHOUT WARRENTY - SO IF YOUR DEVICE STARTS MUTATING INTO A DOG HUNTING YOUR ASS FOR NEW FLESH - BE WARNED
Memory Management:
Introduction: HAVING FREE UNUSED MEMORY ON ANDROID HAS (nearly) NO ADVANTAGE (exception having 0 memory also fu**s up the device -> 1. )
All of those methods wont make your device faster in the meaning of really getting faster in speed... as android already has a quite good memory management.
BUT if u get more space in memory your device can keep more of the apps U LIKE in memory (being inactive according to app lifecycle). This will make them get called faster next time u use them and your device will "feel" faster and more responsive.
1. What should work on all roms are the "minfree" settings -> meaning when android really kills apps - depending on free memory (if u don't know what is mean by - search for the "App Lifecycle" of android)
You can try setting those to the values mentioned by sibere (scroll down) or try finding your own settings. There for u can use any app like "AutoKiller Memory Optimizer" just serach "memory optimizer" in the market.
KEEP IN MIND - you may play a bit with those settings - BUT still u should know what u are doing if u use it!
LOW: If u set the values to low the device will kill apps very late keeping much of them in memory this might make you device get slow. If there is too less Memor fo a "new" app or another process just need more memory while running it has to close down other processes before memory can be allocated.
HIGH: If u set em too high u kill most apps instantly - and your device will get problems and might get unstable as far as i understood.
2. Try gettign more "free" memory by disabeling services - as those got the highest priority they wont get killed that fast by the memory management. For checking u might get an app like "TaskManager" wich lists all running processes.
Just check out what takes your memory and disable those u dont need.U can disaable them by using "Titanium Backup" disable app / uninstall em / or just uncheck their autorun by using a programm like "Autorun Manager". Remember if u just disable the autorun they might (re)start later still.
3. Use a low sceen count in your launcher and keep the widget count low. This is related to 2.) as most widgets run a "background service" to update itself / pulling information (e.g. a waether widget getting latest conditions, a calendar widget keeping connection to your calendar app,...) - each widget took at least 8MB memory when i checked with TaskManager - "greater" widgets like "Fancy Widget (sense like clock and weather widget)" sometimes take up to 25MB
4. DONT USE A LIVE WALLPAPER (live wallpapers use MUCH memory most 20MB-40MB - either they get closed down all the time - or they just reside in memory taking the memory u wanted to use for keeping other apps active)
I also noticed that the App Drawer got "much/noticeable" slower in every Laucher I tested while a live wallpaper was active
5. DO NOT USE A TASK KILLER (remeber the introduction!!! - and think about it yourself - if at least 20 ppl ask why - i write this down here )
6. SWAP / COMPCACHE (can be activated through UD config) - this is a really hard question - those methods extend your memory but the memory u gain is MUCH slower then the internal memory. So again u have to decide and try out if it helps u or it doesn't (I used em long time but never realy felt a big advantage of. Compcache even made my device feel slower and i got more FC's most time - also I tried to figure out how the memory management uses this "memory". But i din't find a clear answer yet - as some ppl mentioned that "inactve apps" wont get swapped - need some clear source... Anway in general those 2 should increase Multitasking capability at cost of speed.
7. FUDGESWAP
- noting yet - its GINGERBREAD only - so we have to wait...
FINALY: u have to decide on your own what u really NEED to run "simultaniously" (I personaly rather have less widgets and run background services like growl, eventghost, tasker) but u can count it yourself by checking back with taskmanager and having in mind your archos (GEN8) just has 256MB of internal memory.
CPU Manaagement:
8. (UD) If u got Urukdroid u can try setting your CPU Governor to another value like:
"Interactive" is more reactive than "on demand" (-> SIBERE)
9. Try an OC (OverClocked) Kernel -> get it in the Urukdroid Dev Thread (I wont link any here as u should know what u do and wich u choose!)
BEWARE not all devices can use an OC Kernel (sadly mine can't) but try it out...
10. Try overclocking your device with the Milestone Overclock Utility. This overclock method is based on a module insert. Again this just works with root.
OVERCLOCKING:
Each CPU is different -> each device is different and can handle different maximum speeds - this is related to the former position of the CPU on its waver while production...
So u have to try out what your CPU can handle safely - so it might happen your device will refuse to boot after u flashed a kernel or set some permanen OC values. Keep a BACKUP or reflash old kernel...
In general u normaly can't brick your device by overclocking as the CPU overheats -> safety function of the CPU stops it -> the device resets itself before the CPU get "burned" (hope this also aplies to ARM processors )
Other:
11. The Launcher: I tested out much lauchers already: ADW, ADW EX, VTL, Laucher PRO, Zeam Laucher, GO Laucher - most of them seem to be eaqual in speed and more differ in features (event Laucher PRO is still the fastest on my Wildfire [but development stopped some time ago], GO seemed to be a bit slower imho) - take any of those but avoid taking some over exagerated 3D'ish laucher like Regina, SPB Shell, Claystone...
12. Apps like "AutoKiller Memory Optimizer" have additionaly features to "optimise" the speed,... u might test those out but I didnt notice a difference most time. Still keep in mind - u should know what u are doing
13. Ok - u may want to hit me for that:
It's more a cosmetic thing - but I recently used UOT Kitchen for theming my framework and used the fly-in animations - and they feel much faster then the default animations just try it out... keep a backup of your original framework for reverting.
All the following Tweaks are mentioned by sibere (credits go to him and propably some other people)
echo "1536,2048,4096,6144,8192,10240" > /sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters/minfree
(this is related to 1. ; 1MB = 256 => valueas above are 6MB, 8MB, 16MB, 24MB, 32MB, 40MB)
to enable cgroups cpuacct:
mkdir /acct
mount -t cgroups -o cpuacct none /acct
mkdir /acct/uid
to change ioscheduler:
cd /sys/block/mmcblk1/queue
echo "deadline" > scheduler
cd iosched
echo 1 > fifo_batch
These are lost on reboot so if you wanna keep them, add a script to /etc/init.d
Finaly I also have patched the sqlite library. If you want the file, let me know. It boost a lot SQL database writings. See this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=903507
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Will ask him to comment on "cgroups, ioscheduler, and sqlite" as im not sure if they work with all rom versions / neither how they work exactly.
THANKS Sibere
EDIT:
aditional threads with tweaks
- Supercharger
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227269
BEWARE I HAVEN'T HAD THE TIME TO CHECK THEM OUT YET AND DIDN'T TEST THEM
SOME OF THEM MIGHT NOT WORK AND PEOPLEARGUE ABOUT THEM (e.g. the "debug.sf.hw =1" is heavily discussed)
IF ANYONE KNOWS MORE ABOUT THOSE OR CAN HELP TESTING IM HAPPY TO LEARN MORE ABOUT

Hi.
For a full reference to cgroups, you may read the cgroups documentation from the kernel.
Basically, it provides process aggregations in the Linux kernel, mainly for resource tracking purposes.
deadline IO scheduler has been used a lot for SSDs and proven to be quite adapted to flash memory.
The minfree settings set here are pretty much optimised by me for the archos. It gives you a good balance between available cache and free ram . Android starts to complain when the free ram drops below 32Mb. with these settings, the OOM task killer will try to maintain a free ram level above 32Mb. You DON'T need a task killer. It will just use precious ram resources and will mess up with the android integrated task killer.
Those settings are reset on boot, so you may add them in a script added to /etc/init.d/ directory.
SQlite optimisation is of great help and I already posted a lot of information about it when I posted the tweaked file. Please refer to this post. (You'll have to look for it, it's somewhere in the dev thread )
Enjoy your optimised archos!

Thanks guys, learning new tips.

Nice! Good tips. Thanks.

Very usefull reading, thanks!

thanks for the tips ! cheers!

Hello, I am JustLoveJoy, I am an up and coming developer, although I work very hard on my phone right now, my gf has gotten an Archos 8 G2 4GB tablet and I have it rooted but it constantly gives me some issues. Finding this thread, I have to ask, can these or any tweaks be applied to her tablet? is there any source code on github or somewhere else? I mainly wish to get her to be able to do her Farmville on it. I'd like to get on to the development boards with a custom rom for it but I need someone with a little experience to point me in the right direction for that. Thanks So much for starting this thread!

hi i just want to try to root my arnova 7g2 bit i don't find a straight 3d on xda. you clan indicate the right street
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did you notice that crow (CM7) for Gen8 was released ?

still nothing for developing for the Archos 8 G2 4GB? If I can get adb shell I would be happy!

Thanks

thinks man
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Thanks for the great post! I still have one of these!

[SHARE] Using the best out of CM7 a9

DISCLAIMER: This is a share of my experience for better usage. It might not work the best for you. You do this at your own risk. !
Hi there!
If use use this lovely G3 with CM7 a9 as your daily driver, you would have wanted to have it fast and smooth. (Basically the ROM is buttery smooth, but due to different wrong settings/apps that we use make it little slow)
So here are some DOs and DON'Ts, from my experience:
DO NOT use apps2sd or a2sd scripts. Please don't use them. There is a little work around for it in the lines below. Keep reading.
DO NOT use 'task killers'/auto task killers. If you really want one task manager, then there is a port of stock samsung task manager. It does well, doesn't run in background. It is attached at the end of this post.
Say NO to heavy launchers. I would recommend ADW/ADW EX. Works best, buttery smooth, with an ocean of features.
Say YES to cpu governors and profiles. Helps you get the best battery as well as performance.
Try to stick to CM stock Music app, QuickPic instead of Gallery, it helps a lot.
Work around for installing apps (without using a2sd scripts):
[CM7 a9 has quite a lot of space in system directory, if you DE-ODEX it. So let's make use of that. I deleted the following from /system/app folder, after deoxeding. It doesn't affect me. Please do this with care. (If you use odexed ROM, you can try deleting both .apk and .odex files. I hope it doesn't cause any problem )
Androidian.apk, Cyanbread.apk - these are the inbuilt themes. I use ice10 theme. So, i placed ice10 apk instead of these two. If you use some other, you can place it instead of these two.
CMStats.apk,CMUpdateNotify.apk,CMWallpapers.apk - I don't use any of these. So, it doesn't affect me.
Email.apk - I use only gmail. If you are using pop mail, you might need this, and there are alternatives too.
FileManager.apk - I use RootExplorer. I I removed it.
Gallery3D.apk - This is the first one I deleted. I replaced it with QuickPic.
LiveWallpapers.apk, LiveWallpapersPicker.apk, MagicSmokeWallpapers.apk - I've never used them and will never use them.
PicoTts.apk - it is for text to speech. I don't use it.
Protips.apk, QuickSearchBox.apk, RomManager.apk - I don't use them at all.
Now, you would've got good space in our system folder. Now, goto /data/app folder. Move Play Store, Play Services apks and other apps that you use to /system/app/ folder. You can do do this until system folder goes full.
NOTE: Whenever you copy an apk from /data/app/ , many times there might be an old version sitting inside system/app/ , for example,Google Play store. So, make sure, you delete the old version before copying from /data/app.
Once in a week/couple of weeks DO clear you cache and dalvik cache. It frees up space and also builds new cache, so your phone gets a little faster.
Make use of CyanogenMod settings: I Use 'long press back button kills foreground app'. It is really helpful.
I could have missed something, I'll add if I remember.
Don't forget to share your settings/ work-arounds for using out G3 better!
Useful thread that helped me: LINK

GOOD
Nice tips dude ..... The advices look awesome
For me ... the only problem is " Whats app "
It is showing an error that .... Date & Time invalid ...
Im using G3 with Cosmic experia ... Custom ROM
Looks nice ... Please help me
And Hats off to you :highfive:

Getting rid of intrusive system apps...

I myself try to keep my phone clean and running perfectly which contributes to great battery life...I just had to do a clean install and with the amazing root SD maid app it helps me keep track of exactly how many items are running, stopped, and that are installed... if their system, user or actual library.
before I had to wipe my phone I had on an average 36 items running in the background which is phenomenal. My phone performed perfectly... I could easily get 3 days and 8 hours sot....
What I use is an old app called "Total Commander "what's funny is it hasn't been updated for ages. Sometimes it won't uninstall everything unless you open the folder and uninstall the app itself.. It unmounts gets rid of it and then remounts ...I tried uploading some videos that I took doing it but this crappy XDA app won't allow me to do it it keeps failing if anyone has any questions just ask.... Nevertheless here's a couple screenshots before during and after but, to say the least I think everyone should have SD maid and total commander on their phone unless you prefer to run modules that can do it all for you... Those that thinks this is nonsense and please don't leave smart remarks just pass it up and laugh if you will I'm just sharing what has kept my OnePlus 6t in Tip-Top shape...
also I've done a lot of research on what certain apps are there for such as OnePlus device manager odm what a joke who would wants their info sent to China every 6 hours every day I mean come on. Lmao...
These screenshots are with the app. The app being deleted and then the third screenshot is showing you that the app is no longer there...
Also if you don't feel safe deleting the app you can create a folder on the internal storage I make my system apps folders in my Download folder and just move to that folder that way if you're paranoid and you think something may happen wrong you can just move it back....
believe me I've deleted everything that can possibly be deleted and the only thing that's happened is my phone runs way better.??

Yeah like this is exactly what I want on my phone ????

I'm not here to stomp toes or be a prick...I just feel people should really know what is on their phones and I believe everyone has the right to be enlightened and have their eyes opened and I'm hoping that this will help people out.

TENlll423 said:
I'm not here to stomp toes or be a prick...I just feel people should really know what is on their phones and I believe everyone has the right to be enlightened and have their eyes opened and I'm hoping that this will help people st
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I agree. One of the reasons I don't run OOS is because of the absurd number of trackers and other stuff they have. A lot of their System Apps are Trackers and removing some of them causes a Bootloop. So I just prefer to run an AOSP ROM.
BTW, MiXPlorer from XDA works perfectly fine for removing apps from /system. It can also delete the Folders. Just make sure you don't have any Magisk Module that modifies System otherwise it won't work. I also had a Custom Debloater that would remove all apps that can be removed but I no longer have it. In my opinion, running AOSP is much better than OOS. Waay less tracking services and better Privacy and Battery.

DarthVader said:
I agree. One of the reasons I don't run OOS is because of the absurd number of trackers and other stuff they have. A lot of their System Apps are Trackers and removing some of them causes a Bootloop. So I just prefer to run an AOSP ROM.
BTW, MiXPlorer from XDA works perfectly fine for removing apps from /system. It can also delete the Folders. Just make sure you don't have any Magisk Module that modifies System otherwise it won't work. I also had a Custom Debloater that would remove all apps that can be removed but I no longer have it. In my opinion, running AOSP is much better than OOS. Waay less tracking services and better Privacy and Battery.
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Right on I had mixplorer.. it wasn't for me... I like test kernels so for now I'm staying on OOS..
right now I got 42 items running in the background which is pretty damn good

TENlll423 said:
I myself try to keep my phone clean and running perfectly which contributes to great battery life...I just had to do a clean install and with the amazing root SD maid app it helps me keep track of exactly how many items are running, stopped, and that are installed... if their system, user or actual library.
before I had to wipe my phone I had on an average 36 items running in the background which is phenomenal. My phone performed perfectly... I could easily get 3 days and 8 hours sot....
What I use is an old app called "Total Commander "what's funny is it hasn't been updated for ages. Sometimes it won't uninstall everything unless you open the folder and uninstall the app itself.. It unmounts gets rid of it and then remounts ...I tried uploading some videos that I took doing it but this crappy XDA app won't allow me to do it it keeps failing if anyone has any questions just ask.... Nevertheless here's a couple screenshots before during and after but, to say the least I think everyone should have SD maid and total commander on their phone unless you prefer to run modules that can do it all for you... Those that thinks this is nonsense and please don't leave smart remarks just pass it up and laugh if you will I'm just sharing what has kept my OnePlus 6t in Tip-Top shape...
also I've done a lot of research on what certain apps are there for such as OnePlus device manager odm what a joke who would wants their info sent to China every 6 hours every day I mean come on. Lmao...
These screenshots are with the app. The app being deleted and then the third screenshot is showing you that the app is no longer there...
And also if you don't feel safe deleting the app you can create a folder and the SD card that's what I used to do just name it "system apps" and instead of deleting you can just move to that folder that way if you're paranoid and you think something may happen wrong you can just move it back....
believe me I've deleted everything that can possibly be deleted and the only thing that's happened is my phone runs way better.??
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Hello , can you post list of deleted apps? Thank you in advance

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Hello , can you post list of deleted apps? Thank you in advance
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Yeah I will eventually... I have to make up another list I wiped my phone the other day and forgot about saving that list... But if you don't want to wait the best thing to do would be download xXx no limits and then go through the profile that comes with that zip and that gives you a good idea of what you can and can't get rid of.

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Hello , can you post list of deleted apps? Thank you in advance
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Here's a list thanks to Tomatot Debloater. You might just want to use that..There's a thread or you can just delete them one by one like I do...I just prefer to do it that way so if something goes wrong I could just move the system app right back...that's why it's good to just delete the app from the folder that way you can place it back in the folder where It came from...

TENlll423 said:
Here's a list I got from an invisible script from a debloater so you might just want to use that..There's a thread or you can just delete them one by one like I do...I just prefer to do it that way so if something goes wrong I could just move the system app right back...that's why it's good to just delete the app from the folder that way you can place it back in the folder where I came from...
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Thanks. But what is AntHal and PhotosOnline ?

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Thanks. But what is AntHal and PhotosOnline ?
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AntHal is used for connecting to Fitness Devices like Bluetooth Smartwatch & Fitness Bands. Photos Online is OnePlus's Wallpaper app. Sort of. You can browse photos clicked by the Community and set them as a Wallpaper. Both are pretty useless. Unless you use them. In that case, they are not useless.

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AntHal is used for connecting to Fitness Devices like Bluetooth Smartwatch & Fitness Bands. Photos Online is OnePlus's Wallpaper app. Sort of. You can browse photos clicked by the Community and set them as a Wallpaper. Both are pretty useless. Unless you use them. In that case, they are not useless.
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Thanks for explaining. Does anyone got debloat script/zip?

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Thanks for explaining. Does anyone got debloat script/zip?
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Your best bet is Tomatot's Debloat Script. It is available in the Cross Device Development section. Mine was based on that, just customized to my needs. It's actually pretty easy to customize it and Tomatot has a done a good job at explaining it in the OP.

Using this is generally unnecessary. I think there's easier ways to get rid of system apps and not have to rely on an app to do it for you. Just install a terminal emulator. Then run these few commands.
$su
#mount -o rw,remount /
#cd /system/app/
#rm -rf name-of-app-folder/
#cd /system/priv-app/
#rm -rf name-of-app-folder/
#reboot
This is just a quick way to accomplish the same thing if you run into problems with an app. If you mess anything up, reflash rom and it will restore all system apps again.

Apps I recommend to definitely get rid of are OPcommon log tool,OPbugreportLite..
all ODM ,,(OnePlus system service) and OnePlus System Service manager...all items on that list are safe to get rid of..
Although I recommend you to look into it yourself for educational reasons..

I got 10.3.2 running smooth and all junk ( intrusive bloat) removed and so far this update seems good to go...

TENlll423 said:
I got 10.3.2 running smooth and all junk ( intrusive bloat) removed and so far this update seems good to go...
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No freezes/framerate drops?

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No freezes/framerate drops?
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Not that I've noticed...really running smooth for me.. I use Omega kernel too.