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Where to begin learning about developing... im really interested but all i can find is like how to use stuff ppl have already done... like how-to's on boot animations or seriously over my head stuff like how metamorph works. i need to find some relevant info on the android system and how it works and what i apk vs adb vs xml is. can anyone be of assistance? pls.
I'd also be interested.
Come on man it says on the forum no noobs. I'm trying not to be a **** but all of your questions could be answered with 10 minutes of searching on google.
I am also interested in trying to know a little more about this so that I can help people instead of always being the one that needs help.
drew16 said:
Come on man it says on the forum no noobs. I'm trying not to be a **** but all of your questions could be answered with 10 minutes of searching on google.
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dude ur totally not a ****. i was just not thinkin. developer.android.com has soooo much good stuff to start. ty tho.
I'm a little confused as to what you want to know.
But actually I would check out http://developer.android.com/ and read through their Guide and learn about Android first, and then watch some of their Videos. After that, you could read through some of the tutorials on XDA regarding Android and just Google some of the terms used, such as SPL, Fastboot, ADB, Root, etc. You're right, most guides on here tell you how to do something and not particularly what it all means. So unfortunately, a lot of it, you will have to search for.
I know there is a thread for "noobs" on how to install, but I still dont understand it...lol. I guess I'm too noobish when it comes to this kind of stuff, but can someone explain it a little better, or point me to a easier explained way of doing it?
Also, I tried to DL the "anistasia" icon set via the .cab file from my phone and it wouldnt install because of some license conflict, is there something I did wrong? or something that I didnt do before DL'ing the .cab file?
Sorry for the noob questions, but since I've gotten this phone I have been wanting to change things, unlike other phones I've had. So I'm kinda new to this.
Thanks to all that can help.
I dont think it can be explained any easier than that noob thread... Its as plain and simple as it gets... The only thing it doesnt have is a troubleshooting section, but there are plenty of troubleshooting posts throughout the thread...
My advice would be to learn what the "weird" words mean first (google, wikipedia, etc.) and then try reading it again..
Thanks, I guess it's just trial and error huh? I just don't wanna end up with a brick.
papeshfoo said:
Thanks, I guess it's just trial and error huh? I just don't wanna end up with a brick.
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no, not even trial and error... that tutorial is pretty ironclad... it works perfectly as long as you pay attn to whats written...
Hey guys,I want to start creating an android roms for HTC HD2.whats the software I need to start doing that?I have plenty of time and I Love my HD2.I tried many rom by many developers as mdeejay and darkstone and I decided to try to vreate my own.How can I do that and whats the equipment I need to do that?
Well yeah you definitely need lots of stuff. Yes, stuff is very important and without stuff you will not be able to make your stuff.
Hope that helps.
yeah but what kind of stuff?what programms tools etc do I need?
nkos719 said:
yeah but what kind of stuff?what programms tools etc do I need?
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the very basic ones "Programming and linux Knowledge"....if you got these, you are already 90% success....
Then,Linux operating system in your PC such as ubuntu,fedora or opensuse....
Kitchen...such as coffee shop....................
Again, Knowledge is important...It is not easy as you think,if you don't any Linux stuffs
well,I know that its not easy.
But I have plenty of time and I would like to have a try.so where can I find caffee shop for hd2 updated software?
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well,I know that its not easy.
But I have plenty of time and I would like to have a try.so where can I find caffee shop for hd2 updated software?
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Here you go...Try to search next time...LOL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738770&highlight=coffee+shop
All the best...wish someone can teach you...But please don't open another thread to ask for help....
This kind of threads already repeated many times...
the others are kinda saying that if you have to ask, then you just aren't ready to do it
its like asking someone about how to repair cars or build your first computer...no simple set of tools and a tutorial will get you anywhere
bravo261 said:
the others are kinda saying that if you have to ask, then you just aren't ready to do it
its like asking someone about how to repair cars or build your first computer...no simple set of tools and a tutorial will get you anywhere
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Agree with you...If I provide you all the tools and ask you to repair a sport car. It seems impossible...
bravo261 said:
the others are kinda saying that if you have to ask, then you just aren't ready to do it
its like asking someone about how to repair cars or build your first computer...no simple set of tools and a tutorial will get you anywhere
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Hmm, I built my first computer by looking inside another one, wasn't hard at all.
nkos719, knowing how to search for information fast and efficiently is one of the most important assets of a developer. Make the search function your most important tool and you will progress fast.
I looked everywhere but the only tool I found was the Coffee Shop kitchen v1 but I cannot open the files included in the rar file.
That's because it only works on Linux systems..
If you do not have access to an Linux environment, better forget ROM development for Android.
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Hmm, I built my first computer by looking inside another one, wasn't hard at all.
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Putting the hardware is the easy part! I was doing that for my father when I was 7/8! Only now than Im turning 18 have I learnt to make a flawlessly working computer!
I agree with everyone else here...
Noone can give you the answer you want.
It took me months of hard work, with no help from anyone else but text books to be able to write java for android.
Thats your best hope.
Good luck though, Keep at it! Its worth it in the end.
lonelykatana said:
Putting the hardware is the easy part! I was doing that for my father when I was 7/8! Only now than Im turning 18 have I learnt to make a flawlessly working computer!
I agree with everyone else here...
Noone can give you the answer you want.
It took me months of hard work, with no help from anyone else but text books to be able to write java for android.
Thats your best hope.
Good luck though, Keep at it! Its worth it in the end.
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Hey, mate...I have looked at your photos, great shots...Keep it up....Cheers.
Ok so after i have seen many people asking about doing things like porting and how to add power menu options and lockscreens( includes me ), i wanted to ask you guys if you can start sharing things like adding power menu options and adding lockscreens here..how to edit settings.apk to show lockscreens option..how to edit mod version when is written in the apk itself.. things like that..im not asking for something wrong right ????
So basicly this is like a guide just like the one jellette posted sometime before here in general, lets make an all in one guide so people dont be all over the place asking posts twice ...well i think i will benefit about this too since i have entered the dev world and its hard lol...no sleepeng well, not eating well, thats me i dont know about you...so what you guys think.. ?
Is this wrong ??
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bosina said:
Ok so after i have seen many people asking about doing things like porting and how to add power menu options and lockscreens( includes me ), i wanted to ask you guys if you can start sharing things like adding power menu options and adding lockscreens here..how to edit settings.apk to show lockscreens option..how to edit mod version when is written in the apk itself.. things like that..im not asking for something wrong right ????
So basicly this is like a guide just like the one jellette posted sometime before here in general, lets make an all in one guide so people dont be all over the place asking posts twice ...well i think i will benefit about this too since i have entered the dev world and its hard lol...no sleepeng well, not eating well, thats me i dont know about you...so what you guys think.. ?
Is this wrong ??
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The problem, Bosina, is that people are always asking for guides that already exist here on the site. A search of xda will show you how to add am / pm toggle, lockscreens, power options, porting apps etc..
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The problem, Bosina, is that people are always asking for guides that already exist here on the site. A search of xda will show you how to add am / pm toggle, lockscreens, power options, porting apps etc..
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Hmm i see brother.... but i have seen some settings apk i have tried for the lockscreens that have the mod version there and i havent found out how to change it.. there are things that can be shared here..
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Let me also add that sending a dev a request and only giving two options: tell me how or write a guide is not the way to request help. There is a 3rd and 4th option: walk me through it when you get the time (like I have done a lot) or don't help if you don't have the free time right now.
A dev works hard to pump out the best roms. They do not always have the time to walk away from their own project to fix someone elses.
I recently walked a "dev" through a port 100% from start to finish. That earned me a little line of thanks at the bottom of his OP and earned him a big arse line at the top of his OP stating that HE worked real hard to get the port bug free.... This ruins it for others, like yourself, when you ask for help.
Can I write you a guide and send you some files please?
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Let me also add that sending a dev a request and only giving two options: tell me how or write a guide is not the way to request help. There is a 3rd and 4th option: walk me through it when you get the time (like I have done a lot) or don't help if you don't have the free time right now.
A dev works hard to pump out the best roms. They do not always have the time to walk away from their own project to fix someone elses.
I recently walked a "dev" through a port 100% from start to finish. That earned me a little line of thanks at the bottom of his OP and earned him a big arse line at the top of his OP stating that HE worked real hard to get the port bug free.... This ruins it for others, like yourself, when you ask for help.
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who did this, that whore.
I usually have no trouble teaching someone or sharing any knowledge I (might) have, but when people message me and want things but have no idea how or why something is, it's annoying.
I know that's a little vague, so let me make it clearer: if you are going to PM someone and ask them how to do something you damn well better make sure of the following
1) you have Google searched the issue for at least 9999 hours
---- (tip: try using "site:xda-developers.com" in google)
2) you have tried doing this yourself
3) you at least have some idea of how whatever you're asking about works
4) you aren't asking said person TO do it, but rather HOW
And Bosina (and everyone else), I know guides are useful and all... but anyone can follow a guide. You need to learn HOW this stuff works
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Let me also add that sending a dev a request and only giving two options: tell me how or write a guide is not the way to request help. There is a 3rd and 4th option: walk me through it when you get the time (like I have done a lot) or don't help if you don't have the free time right now.
A dev works hard to pump out the best roms. They do not always have the time to walk away from their own project to fix someone elses.
I recently walked a "dev" through a port 100% from start to finish. That earned me a little line of thanks at the bottom of his OP and earned him a big arse line at the top of his OP stating that HE worked real hard to get the port bug free.... This ruins it for others, like yourself, when you ask for help.
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ohh i see , thanks for that since i did that and i had no idea on what i was doing ..remember ? now that im a little into this, i know how hard you guys work for this..bro i go bed at 3 almost everyday just tryinbg to fix some frames in framwork ..damm i feel you jellette...sorry for those times i did that error and dammmmmmm, that he had to work hard to get port free ?? hmmm i wouldnt do that really...believe me..i always thank you for all you have done for the comunity and for me...
SkOrPn said:
Can I write you a guide and send you some files please?
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you could,
birgertime said:
I usually have no trouble teaching someone or sharing any knowledge I (might) have, but when people message me and want things but have no idea how or why something is, it's annoying.
I know that's a little vague, so let me make it clearer: if you are going to PM someone and ask them how to do something you damn well better make sure of the following
1) you have Google searched the issue for at least 9999 hours
---- (tip: try using "site:xda-developers.com" in google)
2) you have tried doing this yourself
3) you at least have some idea of how whatever you're asking about works
4) you aren't asking said person TO do it, but rather HOW
And Bosina (and everyone else), I know guides are useful and all... but anyone can follow a guide. You need to learn HOW this stuff works
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ya i feel you roman
xriderx66 said:
who did this, that whore.
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hahhahah thats what i thought
We are actually pretty lucky here in the Vibrant section, have you ever looked for a how to or source files in one of the other sections. The amount of sharing that goes on here is far greater than anywhere else on xda.
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We are actually pretty lucky here in the Vibrant section, have you ever looked for a how to or source files in one of the other sections. The amount of sharing that goes on here is far greater than anywhere else on xda.
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damm now that you say that, you so right, i was talking to my team partner about what phone to get next and i was saying that if we get another phone there wont be a jellette, a roman, no one like all those that share things here...i noticed that...you so right
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you could,
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I was being sarcastic bosina. I would love to learn this stuff but theres no way I would come out and start asking people how to do it. Id learn 100% of everything from just research and reading myself. Take in part, my JIGs, I figured out how to make them through research and development and never asked anyone how to do it, and I only got ideas from KidDynamite on the fancy lanyards I use because I wanted a nice adjustable lanyard system, but had no clue what to use, and he being ex military suggested I use 550 Paracord and a cord lock... Techie type people like high quality full of fancy specs stuff like military grade 550 cord.
jellette said:
We are actually pretty lucky here in the Vibrant section, have you ever looked for a how to or source files in one of the other sections. The amount of sharing that goes on here is far greater than anywhere else on xda.
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Ive noticed that same thing jellete, only the i9000 forum imo seems to match our prowess in that dept. For the US tho the Vibrant forums is #1 for sure.
SkOrPn said:
I was being sarcastic bosina. I would love to learn this stuff but theres no way I would come out and start asking people how to do it. Id learn 100% of everything from just research and reading myself. Take in part, my JIGs, I figured out how to make them through research and development and never asked anyone how to do it, and I only got ideas from KidDynamite on the fancy lanyards I use because I wanted a nice adjustable lanyard system, but had no clue what to use, and he being ex military suggested I use 550 Paracord and a cord lock... Techie type people like high quality full of fancy specs stuff like military grade 550 cord.
Ive noticed that same thing jellete, only the i9000 forum imo seems to match our prowess in that dept. For the US tho the Vibrant forums is #1 for sure.
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thats cool
ahhhhhhhhhhh snap got kicked to the curb. Butt kissing did no good
okay my n7 wifi tab is currently stuck with no os.i accidentally wiped everything out in recovery and no toolkit is working.its not downloading and installing the files to extract and install correctly.please help me before i break this thing.thanks in advance
stop using a toolkit.
use adb to push a rom zip to your device
OR
use fastboot to flash stock google images to device
if it doesnt work there, you will at least get an indication of what the problem is.
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stop using a toolkit.
use adb to push a rom zip to your device
OR
use fastboot to flash stock google images to device
if it doesnt work there, you will at least get an indication of what the problem is.
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dont really know how to push files through adb.how to?
figured it out.i found a factory image on me ext hdd and used it. i forgot to mention i had no adb drivers on my comp. downloaded from asustek and tried using wugs and adb wouldnt pick up.used google nexus 7 toolkit and got it done.
so you still didnt learn anything out of this ordeal...
SMH
of course did...smh 2u. first thing learned, dont factory reset then format data again....thats where it began.and if you are meaning sideload,yes i did that a few minutes ago. thanks guy
podagee said:
of course did...smh 2u. first thing learned, dont factory reset then format data again....thats where it began.and if you are meaning sideload,yes i did that a few minutes ago. thanks guy
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I am guessing you still dont know what the toolkit does in the background though....
THAT is what I was referring to. Toolkits are whats wrong with the Nexus forums these days. Kids dont want to learn anything on a DEVELOPERS forum...
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I am guessing you still dont know what the toolkit does in the background though....
THAT is what I was referring to. Toolkits are whats wrong with the Nexus forums these days. Kids dont want to learn anything on a DEVELOPERS forum...
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well i was trying to learn developement but due to the fact that my satellite p755-s5393 i7 octo-core does not play nice with linux's wifi, i cant learn developement as of yet. so therefore i choose not to learn it, yet.
oh and instead of being sarcastic about things it would be a lot better for help and knowledge not bs. thank you anyway though.
trying to make yourself known as what it does and how to develop, enlighten a few, not throw us to the wolves. have a good evening.
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well i was trying to learn developement but due to the fact that my satellite p755-s5393 i7 octo-core does not play nice with linux's wifi, i cant learn developement as of yet. so therefore i choose not to learn it, yet.
oh and instead of being sarcastic about things it would be a lot better for help and knowledge not bs. thank you anyway though.
trying to make yourself known as what it does and how to develop, enlighten a few, not throw us to the wolves. have a good evening.
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Bahahahahahahahaha
Yeah. OK. I tried helping you and you ignored the advice. Good luck 'learning development'
I do hope you comprehend the irony of your entire thread before responding.
Wants to learn development.
Uses a toolkit.
Also you could man up and get your WiFi working in Linux (I haven't seen a chip that just won't work in Linux) or you could use a VM to learn. Since you know, you had to tell us what a badass laptop you have, it should support a VM nicely.
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okay my n7 wifi tab is currently stuck with no os.i accidentally wiped everything out in recovery and no toolkit is working.its not downloading and installing the files to extract and install correctly.please help me before i break this thing.thanks in advance
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Pirateghost said:
Bahahahahahahahaha
Yeah. OK. I tried helping you and you ignored the advice. Good luck 'learning development'
I do hope you comprehend the irony of your entire thread before responding.
Wants to learn development.
Uses a toolkit.
Also you could man up and get your WiFi working in Linux (I haven't seen a chip that just won't work in Linux) or you could use a VM to learn. Since you know, you had to tell us what a badass laptop you have, it should support a VM nicely.
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I think that Pirateghost has a point with regard to toolkits...
@podagee.. you really do need to get used to using fastboot/ADB and similar command line interfaces, and subsequently eschew toolkits. Particularly if you want to get involved in development work.
But I also 'feel' that @Pirateghost has become somewhat jaded and cynical with regard to beginners, who perhaps just need a bit of a helping hand. (Not that I'm saying you didn't give it here, Pirateghost).
I'm not having a go at you, Pirateghost... in fact, I enjoy reading your frequent scathing and withering comments (oft times, they make me laugh out loud)... but everybody was a beginner once - even yourself, some nearly 7,800 posts ago.
Just my thoughts anyway... (don't mean to irritate anybody).
Rgrds,
Ged.
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Bahahahahahahahaha
Yeah. OK. I tried helping you and you ignored the advice. Good luck 'learning development'
I do hope you comprehend the irony of your entire thread before responding.
Wants to learn development.
Uses a toolkit.
Also you could man up and get your WiFi working in Linux (I haven't seen a chip that just won't work in Linux) or you could use a VM to learn. Since you know, you had to tell us what a badass laptop you have, it should support a VM nicely.
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Oh I never noticed you were trying to help, next time be helpful not stupid. You have no points. Read your own posts before you post more. Of course I can get my WiFi working,but, I don't have the time. I go on a 6 month vacation in 3 days, so I really,honestly don't have the time. Thanks for all the helpful input pirate it didn't help at all. Now....I'm sure we all have better things to do
Reread my first post in this thread and tell me I wasn't trying to point you in the right direction.
You know that old saying, teach a man to fish?
Again I say,
Claims to want to learn development.
Uses toolkit.
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Reread my first post in this thread and tell me I wasn't trying to point you in the right direction.
You know that old saying, teach a man to fish?
Again I say,
Claims to want to learn development.
Uses toolkit.
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i never claimed anything i said i would.your teachings??all you said was if i knew what a toolkit does in the background.you know what...im tired of playing with you.you bore me.bye
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i never claimed anything i said i would.your teachings??all you said was if i knew what a toolkit does in the background.you know what...im tired of playing with you.you bore me.bye
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You called me stupid and said I wasn't trying to help. I have a feeling you don't even understand the words you are typing. I think I will go talk to my 9 yr old son for a better conversation. Have a good day.
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Maybe you should talk to your 9year old son since he's on your level,haha.take it easy pirateghost. You actually sparked some interest with me, so, I went ahead and read about toolkits and adb and fast boot. You should of put your words into better terms, not so sarcastic, but, I eventually read about what you were saying, or trying to say. Now I see that adb and fast boot are in fact way better and more reliable than any toolkits. Thanks for the motivation to read
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Maybe you should talk to your 9year old son since he's on your level,haha.take it easy pirateghost. You actually sparked some interest with me, so, I went ahead and read about toolkits and adb and fast boot. You should of put your words into better terms, not so sarcastic, but, I eventually read about what you were saying, or trying to say. Now I see that adb and fast boot are in fact way better and more reliable than any toolkits. Thanks for the motivation to read
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That's all I want people to do.
THINK and READ.
You learn better that way.
Ponder this for a moment. If I were not so abrasive and annoying would you have done any of that reading? Or would you have just gone on about your business and put your blinders on?
Sometimes you have to goad people to get them to act and respond. I don't mind making some enemies to get a point across.
I am glad you took the time to learn the basic tools of the trade.
No enemies made here my bradda..I get frustrated with people of your kind ,but, if that's what helps us learn then so be it. Thank you for the tough love pirate ghost.