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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409429
thanks Martin
you got the point , i am new here also
and from 3 days i am trying to know what you talking about and frankly some guys try to explain for me but still a lot of things are not understood
they must make a sticky thread for what Rom and how to install it and all the principles things
first port of call. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ start reading.
ayman morsy said:
thanks Martin
you got the point , i am new here also
and from 3 days i am trying to know what you talking about and frankly some guys try to explain for me but still a lot of things are not understood
they must make a sticky thread for what Rom and how to install it and all the principles things
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haha, you joined this forum this month, and you think you can undestand it all?
I have been here a little while..I still get surprised with what I can find on this forum.
If I want to learn something new, I spend a great deal of hours trying to find something I can use, and when I find something, I spend alot of time reading up on it, searching even more in the same topic.
All in all. The wiki is not perfect, the forum is not perfect, but in my oppinion, its dam close. I know a bunch of paysites that provides alot less info then you find here.
We are a bunch of ppl who love what we are doing, but demanding more and more and more is not the way to do it.
And the funny thing here is: Imagine if you got all the answers, and are happy with it
Imagine then...In a few days, another guy ask the same question, ofcourse you help him....and then, in a few days, another thread is started with similar questions. and so on...
Then you start thinking; hmmm, maybe we should make a sticky with this info, so that the noobs dont ask so many times, I will make it easy for them.
So there..you got a sticky with the topic, and alot of good answers (now you have become a more experienced user, uyou are getting good with the terms used here, you know what stuff means, like in.ex RUU, ROM, Hard-SPL etc..)
And again, you are happy to help ppl out, you start using the language used on this forum, you use the knowlege you have mastered in some degree.
And your sticky is full of wisdom and knowlege.
But...after 50 guys have asked the same question (in many diffrent ways, nice, begging, cursing, hateful and so on) you start thinking:
Dam, will those huys never learn to read? Hell, I have given them everything I know, the best way I can.
You are starting to become lazy with posting in your sticky, cause you have done so before, so many times...even on pm (private messages) ppl are asking for personal guidence, and they need it now (and your girlfriend is waiting in the bedroom, or dinner is ready, or you need to go to work, or you have damn much stuff you need to fix with the latest w/e, and are quite finished with that old ****, cause you have moved way past that stage long time ago )
And suddenly you find yourself writing something like I am writing now...
welcome to XDA
@itje
wow. nothin more to add
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Moved...Please, give feedback, make this forum more useful !!!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409429
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OK. we will change ALL...we will make it like in other forums...a "How 2 post" so that EVERY post looks the same...so that noob can follow...
BUT YOU check ALL NEW post if they are posted the right way.
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NO man. IF you cannnot follow the instructions in the threads...DO NOT FLASH!!!
I spent 1 year ONLY READING before flashing my first rom!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SO don´t come here with 5 posts and tell us how to do our job
Well i dont wish to be this forum like any other "plx crack this phorumzz", i think its just as it should be.
besides, when i started flashing my htc devices, it took me 10 mins to find xda-dev's, and another 30 min to figure out what buttons to press to get the stuff i wanted to have.
so dont tell us its too difficult - if youre not smart enough its not our concern.
use google for other forums if youre not pleased with the offers in here.
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Well i dont wish to be this forum like any other "plx crack this phorumzz", i think its just as it should be.
besides, when i started flashing my htc devices, it took me 10 mins to find xda-dev's, and another 30 min to figure out what buttons to press to get the stuff i wanted to have.
so dont tell us its too difficult - if youre not smart enough its not our concern.
use google for other forums if youre not pleased with the offers in here.
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if you need something, use search and READ ALL, schmidler
i know, it takes time ...
I know posting this might incite some flaming, but all I'm looking for is an answer.
I've done a quick search and turned up no results on how to create your own build. I used the program that was made, but that has turned up a lot of errors for me, and I would prefer to learn how to make one from scratch.
Writing a full guide would be time consuming, but if someone could at least post a few links of where to look; I would be very appreciative.
Sorry if this has been posted somewhere before but doing a search turned up no results for me.
Thanks in advance.
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I know posting this might incite some flaming, but all I'm looking for is an answer.
I've done a quick search and turned up no results on how to create your own build. I used the program that was made, but that has turned up a lot of errors for me, and I would prefer to learn how to make one from scratch.
Writing a full guide would be time consuming, but if someone could at least post a few links of where to look; I would be very appreciative.
Sorry if this has been posted somewhere before but doing a search turned up no results for me.
Thanks in advance.
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you are looking for flaming since the begging because if you havent notice this question should be in the general android ... here is only developing.Also i saw this question i dont remember where but developers said that make a tutorial its virtualy impossible its just to much work ...
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you are looking for flaming since the begging because if you havent notice this question should be in the general android ... here is only developing.Also i saw this question i dont remember where but developers said that make a tutorial its virtualy impossible its just to much work ...
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This is about developing an android build, this is the best place to put the question. Better here than in general. I'd rather put in the extra work and try to create a new build and try to contribute to the community, try and do my part
Already been asked in the general forum...I'm still trying to find out how it's done...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774254
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Already been asked in the general forum...I'm still trying to find out how it's done...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774254
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thanks, now Ive gotta try and figure it out haha
Ive never been this frustrated in trying to find how to guides before. Damn it Im just trying to figure out how to install MIUI on my bell sgs2 stock ugkg2 2.3.3 phone. Do I need to update my firmware first and if so with which one since there isnt a bell sgs2 update yet and once i download this firmaware, how the heck to I extract it since they have a password and samsung-firmwares.com does not work for password. /end rant
First you need a rooted kernel which you have to flash with odin. Either cf-root or hellcats or nimph kernel. The first thing after using are rooted is to BACKUP YOUR EFS FOLDER! Then boot into cwm and install MIUI zip from there.
There is a QA thread here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238494
For guide on how to flash the kernel have a look in cf-root kernel thread. For easy efs backup use hellcats application or manually do it, with the instructions in the relevant thread.
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Great thanks for the reply but how do I extract KG6 2.3.4 firmware? All the firmware Ive downloaded through Samfirmware.com so far has asked for a freaken password!?!?! and I dont have the slightest clue on where to find this password. Ive tried samsung-firmwares.com without any luck..../frustrated tweeker
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Great thanks for the reply but how do I extract KG6 2.3.4 firmware? All the firmware Ive downloaded through Samfirmware.com so far has asked for a freaken password!?!?! and I dont have the slightest clue on where to find this password. Ive tried samsung-firmwares.com without any luck..../frustrated tweeker
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That's because, as you said, you are a bloody noob. If you would have spent more than 20 seconds looking, you would have either find the password (even with google, the first result has it), either the thread explaining how to install it.
These forums have thousands (guessing) of members, imagine if everyone were an idiot like you, and posting **** like this, they would have to close it down.
password is: samfirmware.com
MIUI install instructions are here
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That's because, as you said, you are a bloody noob. If you would have spent more than 20 seconds looking, you would have either find the password (even with google, the first result has it), either the thread explaining how to install it.
These forums have thousands (guessing) of members, imagine if everyone were an idiot like you, and posting **** like this, they would have to close it down.
password is: samfirmware.com
MIUI install instructions are here
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Its responses like this that show me how classless this place has become. Who the hell do you think you are ? Dont you think I havnt googled for the password first before asking here ?!?! I dont need 12 year old immature snob insults. Rather Im looking for mature, friendly, understanding responses from ADULT people who understand what it is to be a noob and that fast answers are not always easy to find, espeicailly when your new to the world of Android tweaking....thakns for nothing chump.!
Clicky here.
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Clicky here.
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Yes Im a newb and yes being a newb makes me look like Im an idiot to you know it alls but does that mean you have to be an asshole ?? I saw that video and I laughed my ass off but still, I dont wanna spend weeks looking for information that can be given in minuts !! I tried looking for quick and easy answers but nothing quite comes cloes to what i looking for. Just trying to fing the freaken password to extract kg6 firmware was a bloody pain in the but....btw samfirmware.com does not work
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Its responses like this that show me how classless this place has become.
Unfortunately its true driven mainly by users who wont search and fail to read instructions and want it all handed to them on a plate with repetitions of the same questions day after day .
I see no way around this problem as FAQS etc and rules are not read so the genuine user who asks a question as you did gets treated as if they could not be bothered to search read etc .It is partly due to the number of twelve year olds with Smartphones .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238494
jje
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JJEgan said:
Daniels45 said:
Its responses like this that show me how classless this place has become.
Unfortunately its true driven mainly by users who wont search and fail to read instructions and want it all handed to them on a plate with repetitions of the same questions day after day .
I see no way around this problem as FAQS etc and rules are not read so the genuine user who asks a question as you did gets treated as if they could not be bothered to search read etc .It is partly due to the number of twelve year olds with Smartphones .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238494
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The problem Im having is first Im clueless in regards to android phones and 2nd lots of the information Ive been able to find in regards to rooting/upgrading firmware/updating roms are conflicting so that makes me insecure (I dont wanna brick my phone) 3rd I havnt been able to find...so far...explicit information that enables me to download and extract firmware with password for my bell ugkg2 SGS2.
Looks like Im gonna stick with stock till I can find a guide that goes through all the loops that a canadian bell user like me has to go through to upgrade firmware to 2.3.4 and upgrade to the latest MIUI.....
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As a fellow Canadian and a fellow user of the Samsung Galaxy S2 from Bell, I know these phones inside and out due to hours and hours and hours and hours and weeks and days and more hours and more hours and more hours......of research. I have no problem helping you out unlike that other character who is too much of a prick to help anybody out. Let me know if you still need my help. I don't mind taking you under my wing and showing you the ropes of our beasts and the wonderful world of Android.
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As a fellow Canadian and a fellow user of the Samsung Galaxy S2 from Bell, I know these phones inside and out due to hours and hours and hours and hours and weeks and days and more hours and more hours and more hours......of research. I have no problem helping you out unlike that other character who is too much of a prick to help anybody out. Let me know if you still need my help. I don't mind taking you under my wing and showing you the ropes of our beasts and the wonderful world of Android.
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Thanks man for being a NICE guy...something people around here need to work on...Ok heres what Im trying to do. I wanna install the latest MIUI rom but from what Ive read, its needs 2.3.4 firmware. I downloaded KG6 firmware but Im unable to extract it du to password limitations and thats where Im stuck at.
Daniels45 said:
Thanks man for being a NICE guy...something people around here need to work on...Ok heres what Im trying to do. I wanna install the latest MIUI rom but from what Ive read, its needs 2.3.4 firmware. I downloaded KG6 firmware but Im unable to extract it du to password limitations and thats where Im stuck at.
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Bro, if you want MIUI you have to do TWO simple simple things from your stock bell state
go look for cfroot kernel thread (ill try to find it and link it for you) use the ones for kG2 firmware, this will root your phone and install CWM (the recovery needed to flash custom roms) this will root your phone on the bell firmware no stock required!
once this is done, download the latest miui zip, put on phone sd. boot into recovery and flash that mofo
You actually dont need stock/ kg6 at all to flash custom roms, but it is nice to learn how to use it for the sake of going back to stock!
I'm not changing my mind. They can take all noobs under their wings, but when I see incompetent idiots like you, I can't control myself. The password is on the same download page you got the file from, and I've already told you. You're here because you're bored, and you want attention, and you spent less than one minute searching for your answer. I know I am aggressive sometimes, but I do help people who put in some effort for something they want. I am also a beginner, so I'm not patronizing you, but what you failed to achieve has nothing to do with android at all. Now stop being a moron and creating a drama.
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I'm not changing my mind. They can take all noobs under their wings, but when I see incompetent idiots like you, I can't control myself. The password is on the same download page you got the file from, and I've already told you. You're here because you're bored, and you want attention, and you spent less than one minute searching for your answer. I know I am aggressive sometimes, but I do help people who put in some effort for something they want. I am also a beginner, so I'm not patronizing you, but what you failed to achieve has nothing to do with android at all. Now stop being a moron and creating a drama.
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I understand you, but you shouldnt be this agressive. You could ignore this or just tell him to read the faq at samfirmwares. Just my opinion.
Daniel, posts like yours looks like spam as there is tons of posts asking for the same thing over and over. Try to read a bit more, start with the faqs.
About root and roms, start reading:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134290
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130951
Good luck
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I'm not changing my mind. They can take all noobs under their wings, but when I see incompetent idiots like you, I can't control myself. The password is on the same download page you got the file from, and I've already told you. You're here because you're bored, and you want attention, and you spent less than one minute searching for your answer. I know I am aggressive sometimes, but I do help people who put in some effort for something they want. I am also a beginner, so I'm not patronizing you, but what you failed to achieve has nothing to do with android at all. Now stop being a moron and creating a drama.
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I sort of have to agree with you minus the aggressive attitude. If you can't answer normally then simply don't answer. You're not only making yourself look like a F*cking idiot to about everyone that reads on these forums, but you are also making the community look bad and there are quite a few wonderful people on these boards.
On a side note, I am a newbie to when it comes to android systems (btw there is a difference between a Noob and Newbie, to bad most people don't remember that) but I did manage to root my phone and figure out how to install stock roms and other roms, within 15 minutes of searching. There are plenty of guides here on XDA telling you what flashing is, what roms are, what kernals are, what odin is for, what root system to use (CF-Root) etc.
Its not that hard, so i do agree with you on that.
Syrellaris said:
(btw there is a difference between a Noob and Newbie, to bad most people don't remember that)
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I wasn't aware of this. Care to enlighten this senior gentleman? I'm not down with you young hipsters...
And I agree 110% with TheSaw - the OP wants spoonfeeding and has the cheek to "rant" about it. "Spending weeks searching"!!?? Oh behave...
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I wasn't aware of this. Care to enlighten this senior gentleman? I'm not down with you young hipsters...
And I agree 110% with TheSaw - the OP wants spoonfeeding and has the cheek to "rant" about it. "Spending weeks searching"!!?? Oh behave...
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<PSA>
Newbie: Someone new to something, just starting out, learning.
Noob: Someone whos been around for a while and just wont learn, someone who needs spoon feeding, someone who doesnt want to help themselves.
We are all Newbies at some point, some get better, others turn into noobs.
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Okay, I apologize for my aggressive behavior. I did however help him in my first post after ranting. And yes, I do know the difference between "noob" and "newbie", and I give him credit for correctly categorizing himself in the "noob" group in his thread's title. And on that note... it's common sense and forum rules not to create threads with titles like this. I'm just really not patient with people, sorry
Over and out, carry on without me.
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Okay, I apologize for my aggressive behavior. I did however help him in my first post after ranting. And yes, I do know the difference between "noob" and "newbie", and I give him credit for correctly categorizing himself in the "noob" group in his thread's title. And on that note... it's common sense and forum rules not to create threads with titles like this. I'm just really not patient with people, sorry
Over and out, carry on without me.
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You can have a go at the ten identical posts today What Rom /best rom/which rom /recommended rom
I have learnt to move past a post if i consider the user to be lazy and not bothered to read etc .But not always i am afraid .
jje
I fear for your phone.
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hay
kindly tell me a simple to partioin my nexus one for ics.
am i partioin any nexus model with blackrose.
sorry for my english
waiting for help
Check it here.. There is different thread for installing blackrose as well.. Try finding out.. simple instructions are in below thread..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1270589
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
I would say u need to be a bit careful wid blackrose. Cos its not as easy like flashing a rom. I would recommend you to go thru the blackrose thread carefully to make things clear. If u get any doubts u can ask it and clear things out
Sent from my Nexus One using Tapatalk
There should be CLEAR instructions in the OP of the Blackrose thread. This **** is ridiculous.
What do I need? Do I need the Android SDK? If I do, can I install it on a seperate drive? I don't need ****e clogging up my SSD. No one has stated I need the SDK, hence why I haven't bothered with it. If it is needed, then my point about none of it being CLEAR is reinforced.
Been trying to figure this **** out for hours. Seen countless numbers of posts with people trying to give instructions. I try these things to find that I have missed something because I can't complete a step or some other problem.
And did I mention how helpful the installation video was in the OP? Really good stuff, that.
Any actual help will be appreciated. Gonna jump off the nearest cliff if someone suggests to read through the thread again. Which seems to be the only thing that people like to tell others in these "help" threads.
Cheers.
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There should be CLEAR instructions in the OP of the Blackrose thread. This **** is ridiculous.
What do I need? Do I need the Android SDK? If I do, can I install it on a seperate drive? I don't need ****e clogging up my SSD. No one has stated I need the SDK, hence why I haven't bothered with it. If it is needed, then my point about none of it being CLEAR is reinforced.
Been trying to figure this **** out for hours. Seen countless numbers of posts with people trying to give instructions. I try these things to find that I have missed something because I can't complete a step or some other problem.
And did I mention how helpful the installation video was in the OP? Really good stuff, that.
Any actual help will be appreciated. Gonna jump off the nearest cliff if someone suggests to read through the thread again. Which seems to be the only thing that people like to tell others in these "help" threads.
Cheers.
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I think you will get an earful from other members after they read your post. Calm down and don't vent your anger on this portal. If the instructions from the OP are not clear, just ask and we will help you.
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There should be CLEAR instructions in the OP of the Blackrose thread. This **** is ridiculous.
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Should be? Really? Says who? Take your entitlement straight to the door. People here are doing things for free and sharing their knowledge... and you are demanding to be spoon-fed it.
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What do I need? Do I need the Android SDK? If I do, can I install it on a seperate drive? I don't need ****e clogging up my SSD. No one has stated I need the SDK, hence why I haven't bothered with it. If it is needed, then my point about none of it being CLEAR is reinforced.
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Do you know what the SDK is? If not, maybe you should read up on what it is and why you would need it.
No, you do not need the SDK installed. You do need the drivers for your device installed though, both for fastboot and normal mode.
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Been trying to figure this **** out for hours. Seen countless numbers of posts with people trying to give instructions. I try these things to find that I have missed something because I can't complete a step or some other problem.
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Hours? When I got my first smartphone many years ago, I spend months lurking around this site trying to take in as much knowledge as I could before even attempting to flash anything. I wanted to make sure that I understood everything I was doing before doing it -- I did not want to blindly follow someone's step by step.
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And did I mention how helpful the installation video was in the OP? Really good stuff, that.
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You're lucky you even got a video.
Adster3000 said:
Any actual help will be appreciated. Gonna jump off the nearest cliff if someone suggests to read through the thread again. Which seems to be the only thing that people like to tell others in these "help" threads.
Cheers.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
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Should be? Really? Says who? Take your entitlement straight to the door. People here are doing things for free and sharing their knowledge... and you are demanding to be spoon-fed it.
Do you know what the SDK is? If not, maybe you should read up on what it is and why you would need it.
No, you do not need the SDK installed. You do need the drivers for your device installed though, both for fastboot and normal mode.
Hours? When I got my first smartphone many years ago, I spend months lurking around this site trying to take in as much knowledge as I could before even attempting to flash anything. I wanted to make sure that I understood everything I was doing before doing it -- I did not want to blindly follow someone's step by step.
You're lucky you even got a video.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
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Insulting people always helps!
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I think you will get an earful from other members after they read your post. Calm down and don't vent your anger on this portal. If the instructions from the OP are not clear, just ask and we will help you.
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This is much more helpful. My apologies.
If I were the one creating these sorts of things for others (and myself,) I'd very much like it to be as simple as possible for the end-user. I'd like as much support as possible and I would be isolating the majority by making it more difficult than it could be. I shouldn't need a developer's knowledge to be able to take advantage of a developer's work.
I'm sure I just missed something simple. It wasn't the drivers. After I installed them and tried the Blackrose exe again, it stops at "waiting for device." Read through some of the thread, not understanding half of it, as you would expect, and didn't come across anything that could have helped me with my problem.
Any ideas?
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If I were the one creating these sorts of things for others (and myself,) I'd very much like it to be as simple as possible for the end-user. I'd like as much support as possible and I would be isolating the majority by making it more difficult than it could be. I shouldn't need a developer's knowledge to be able to take advantage of a developer's work.
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I think what you posted above is where the problem is. People here are not creating things here for others. They are developing something, and sharing it with others.
And I guess, you didn't read the comment in the link in my previous post. Otherwise, it probably would have been more clear.
I'm not trying to insult. On the contrary, I am trying to help you figure it out, not have someone figure it out for you, in the spirit of xda-developers, not xda-support-desk.
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I'm sure I just missed something simple. It wasn't the drivers. After I installed them and tried the Blackrose exe again, it stops at "waiting for device." Read through some of the thread, not understanding half of it, as you would expect, and didn't come across anything that could have helped me with my problem.
Any ideas?
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It's funny, but I remember more than one individual having the same issue in the Blackrose thread. And I remember mentioning to at least one individual that they could try to flash Blackrose manually, instead of using the installer. But maybe you missed that. Or did you not read the entire thread?
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But maybe you missed that. Or did you not read the entire thread?
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lol, seriously?
There are 956 posts in the Blackrose thread alone. Expecting someone to read EVERY single post and absorb all of that information at one time is a bit proposterous. I'd bet it'd take a good 3-4 hours to just read that single thread.
I'm not saying we should spoon feed the newbs (especially the ones who can't follow simple instructions, like not posting a question in a forum with a big sticky at the top that explicitly says "WARNING - DO *NOT* POST QUESTIONS IN THIS FORUM - only tips/info/etc."), but at what point do we say... hey, this is how you do it, these 900 posts don't matter, or are outdated, or are duplicate questions...
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lol, seriously?
There are 956 posts in the Blackrose thread alone. Expecting someone to read EVERY single post and absorb all of that information at one time is a bit proposterous. I'd bet it'd take a good 3-4 hours to just read that single thread.
I'm not saying we should spoon feed the newbs (especially the ones who can't follow simple instructions, like not posting a question in a forum with a big sticky at the top that explicitly says "WARNING - DO *NOT* POST QUESTIONS IN THIS FORUM - only tips/info/etc."), but at what point do we say... hey, this is how you do it, these 900 posts don't matter, or are outdated, or are duplicate questions...
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I WAS being serious. Maybe it's just me, but I like learning, and I like helping those who like to learn. And don't tell me it's because people don't have time to read them...I work 60-70 hours a week, take post-graduate classes, raise 3 kids (which includes going to soccer games, homework, skating and dance lessons), and I still have time to read some threads, write up some guides, and help others.
If I want to flash something, I read the entire thread, so I learn from others' mistakes. When I had my Nexus One and I wanted Blackrose, I read every post in that Blackrose thread, up until I replaced the N1. I guess I have a hard time understanding someone who doesn't, and then complains that the guides should be better, and saying "this $%!& is ridiculous".
One of the things people need to develop skills for, if they're doing anything technical, is SEARCH. It helps a lot to filter out the crap, because it's indeed impossible or at least unreal to read threads of 300+ replies. But searching helps. Noobs should start working on their google-fu.
I agree that Blackrose thread isn't the simplest around. But just think - it's not more and not less, but bootloader replacement! The very thing that noobs SHOULD NOT TOUCH until they understand what they're doing.
So, the first response should be - if you don't understand how to do something, STAY AWAY UNTIL YOU DO. And indeed, go vent somewhere else. This isn't a forum for pleasing users.
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and I still have time to read some threads, write up some guides, and help others.
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Ha.
Forget I asked, then.
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Ha.
Forget I asked, then.
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So let me get this straight: You are looking for help (despite not having read the Blackrose thread), I give you two suggestions (check you driver install and flash the modified hboot manually, both are in the Blackrose thread), and you are still flippant and not happy?
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Hello all,first of all i have to say that im noob . anyways i got my hd2 with windows mobile 6.5 and i want to get it to windows 7,5..how do i do that? i know there's alot of guides for that,but i just cant understand it,could you give me some links with simple and understandable guides how do i do that?
P.S. I've searched for same threads,havent found em :<
method 1
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hspl --> 2.08.hspl
flash radio 2.15.50
flash magldr
magldr --> USB flasher
flash wp7.5
done
method 2
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stop being lazy and read any of the DOZENS of faq's, how-to's and step by step guides.
I would be REALY GRATEFULL if you could give me some links with REALY understandable guides which would help me , thanks
sukatski said:
I would be REALY GRATEFULL if you could give me some links with REALY understandable guides which would help me , thanks
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There's a reason Google and the forum search function exist. Find them yourself. If you ever plan on coming on these forums in the future, the simple advice of searching will help you A LOT.
sukatski said:
I would be REALY GRATEFULL if you could give me some links with REALY understandable guides which would help me , thanks
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check out the link below, it might help :fingers-crossed:
Nigeldg said:
There's a reason Google and the forum search function exist. Find them yourself. If you ever plan on coming on these forums in the future, the simple advice of searching will help you A LOT.
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just a point of interest...the search function has been down for the past few days. certainly was when you wrote this post and continues to be unavailable at the time of my post now.
I'm certain it worked 2 days ago, as I only noticed it was down yesterday and I use it all the time, and as of now I'm able to make a search. Plus, Google is always available. The post might have sounded harsh but it's genuinely the best general advice you could possibly give. If you have a problem, chances are that the solution is out there, and it's unlikely that you're the only one with it. Guides though are stupidly easy to come by, so there's no point someone rewriting a guide if it's already out there. Plus, doing it yourself genuinely gives a feeling of accomplishment
Nigeldg said:
I'm certain it worked 2 days ago, as I only noticed it was down yesterday
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You are *certainly* incorrect. The search function was down when you posted that "advice" and you failing to notice it changes nothing about the fact that it wasn't working when you chastised someone to use it.
If one doesn't know the correct terms to search for, or the English language well enough to search with, then telling someone to use google (do you honestly think that people don't know how to search or that google exists? clearly you telling them to "google" is not new information) is going to be useless "advice".
Being harsh or rude without any additional assistance is neither helpful nor desirable behavior. If you want to be helpful, post the appropriate links and *then* suggest the user to the search function.
Regardless, I'm not going to debate this.
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You are *certainly* incorrect. The search function was down when you posted that "advice" and you failing to notice it changes nothing about the fact that it wasn't working when you chastised someone to use it.
If one doesn't know the correct terms to search for, or the English language well enough to search with, then telling someone to use google (do you honestly think that people don't know how to search or that google exists? clearly you telling them to "google" is not new information) is going to be useless "advice".
Being harsh or rude without any additional assistance is neither helpful nor desirable behavior. If you want to be helpful, post the appropriate links and *then* suggest the user to the search function.
Regardless, I'm not going to debate this.
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Hmm, I'm now not so sure whether I was right about the search function being down since you seem so convinced that it wasn't, but searching is by far the best thing he can do and you know it. I really CBA to argue this now, but you'd be absolutely amazed at the number of people who don't search before posting. Just see how many people ask the questions 'how do I flash Android to my HD2' or 'what is the best ROM' without looking at the popup suggestions or googling it first. About your last point about being helpful etc., telling someone to search is helpful in its own right. It will save them a lot of trouble, time and getting flamed in the future.