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[Q] HD2 Android?

after waiting for a while to see if windows 7 would be released publicly for this phone, and after finish paying off the phone i have decided to just say "Screw you microsoft" and go with an android build, but i have NO idea where to start with this.
The basics of my knowledge of cell phones is that i have put cookies home tab editor, and a few extra things on my phone, i have backed up my phone a couple of times, and i even done the official t-mobile upgrade for my phone, i know a decent amount about computers in general, but haven't had the chance to play around with my phone and it's OS like i have with a computer, being that my phone is very important to me because of my work, and that i don't have a house phone, only my cell phone.
So, could someone at least direct me to all of the forums with the best downloads for the andriod OS, and extras that i will need to get android working on my HD2?
and am i able to run cookies home tab on my HD2 even if it has android OS?

her u go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=735
and u will need
hspl2 or 3
just try the search option and u will get all the information about it ..
if you are ,form gemany then just try this link
http://www.pocketpc.ch/htc-hd2-android/100639-installationsanleitung-tutorial.html
if not
try search on hspl2 or 3

I'm from the USA, i have t-mobile, updateing to the android will still alow basic calling on t-mobile's edge, gprs, and 3-g networks right?
yea, i've been looking through that forum thread already, i can't find any leadway on what to do, i see about kernels and stuff, but i don't know what all i need to download in case to get the most "Stable" android system, i see there is a linux build, and i guess hastarin is another one?
Is Linux Stable now?

her u go ( hspl2 )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433
and ya everthing is working well try for exampel this builds ..
they work fine
[UPD][BUILD][27.10.10]Mdeejay eVo Sense v. 2.3 rEVOlution [kernel:hastarin R7.7]
[UPD][BUILD][07.11.10] MDJ FroYo Sense Revolution v.1.5 [kernel: MDJ S1]
and dont forget this hier is an step by step information
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
hope that will help u

Hmzz... i don`t understand it`s said in other posts that you don`t need hspl2 or 3 if you have ROM 3,14 in this post it is said that it`s needed...

ogizz said:
Hmzz... i don`t understand it`s said in other posts that you don`t need hspl2 or 3 if you have ROM 3,14 in this post it is said that it`s needed...
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Don't quote me on this, but from what I've heard HSPL2/3 indeed are not required, but if you somehow screw up your phone without them, you're basically ****ed. HSPL2/3 should always (well, most of the time) be able to revert you back to stock.

ogizz said:
Hmzz... i don`t understand it`s said in other posts that you don`t need hspl2 or 3 if you have ROM 3,14 in this post it is said that it`s needed...
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You don't need to upgrade HSPL at all. What you must have (100% MUST!!) is a radio version 2.08 or later (2.x.50 versions, NOT 2.x.51 versions).
Until the recent release of the official 3.14 ROM there was no other way to upgrade the radio to the minimum required other than custom flashing, which requires a HSPL upgrade. (Not 100% sure that 3.14 was the first, but I believe it was).
Either way, it's the radio that's crucial to Android - not HSPL.
(I ain't no Android chef or dev - this is just gleaned from what I've read on this forum, so may not be 100% accurate, but it's never failed for me.)

ok, mine Radiois 2.15.50.14, so that means i don`t need to update radio, rom is 3.14.479.2(wwe) it`s stock one...
I have another question then: after installing android on sd card, is there any changes made to stock wm rom or else? or it`s just installing android on sd, and after formating sd card everything will be stock? thnx...

ogizz said:
ok, mine Radiois 2.15.50.14, so that means i don`t need to update radio, rom is 3.14.479.2(wwe) it`s stock one...
I have another question then: after installing android on sd card, is there any changes made to stock wm rom or else? or it`s just installing android on sd, and after formating sd card everything will be stock? thnx...
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Nothing else to do - just copy the android folder to your card and then run the 2 apps (clrcad & haret). Personally, I use a bootloader that runs with Windows, so when I reboot my phone I get the option to run Android or "run" Windows. (Windows is obviously already running at that point. It just closes the app if you select Windows.)
You don't need to format your card to go back to your current config. Just reboot your phone and don't run Android.

johncmolyneux said:
Nothing else to do - just copy the android folder to your card and then run the 2 apps (clrcad & haret). Personally, I use a bootloader that runs with Windows, so when I reboot my phone I get the option to run Android or "run" Windows. (Windows is obviously already running at that point. It just closes the app if you select Windows.)
You don't need to format your card to go back to your current config. Just reboot your phone and don't run Android.
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Thank you, now it`s easier to understand everything, i just thought that clrcad & haret, is needed to run only on first use, and it makes some changes to stock config of hd2. sorry if i misunderstood smthng, i`m new to android on hd2.

ogizz said:
Thank you, now it`s easier to understand everything, i just thought that clrcad & haret, is needed to run only on first use, and it makes some changes to stock config of hd2. sorry if i misunderstood smthng, i`m new to android on hd2.
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No worries mate - glad to help. Hope you get it running - Android's sweet

rather than start a new thread, i have a supplementary question.
It's hard to search for this question, so apologies if it's been covered.
Is it better to run a stripped down custom WM ROM to boot android? or will a stock WM ROM (with the correct radio etc.) run Android just as good?
Does it make a difference?
(I just got a stock HD2 with 3.14 ROM and 2.08.50... radio...)

Can you root/hack hd2 on a mac?

is this possible?
I just sold my iphone 4 to try out the android system.
I am using the hd2 and want to have it rooted. preferably on 2.3.4
I have 2 macbooks and no pc's..
I've been reading around a LOT on google and have read around on this site but can't seem to find anything about mac...
Can i even do this with a mac?
I currently have a 2 gb sd card (i am going to get a larger one) that came with the phone i bought off craigslist.
I really need help as windows mobile is awful..
If I can be helped I can help out people in the future with their phones..
I know all about jailbreak, custom ios, unlocking, etc, even ios 5 beta and all but android is a TOTALLY different WORLD.
I need help please, the terminology and names of things are confusing me too...
I don't know what ROM is..
any help is appreciated!
-sorry if I missed a sticky somewhere or if this thread needs to be redirected.

It should work on a Mac, but I don't have one, so I could be wrong.
Essentially, what you need to do to get android on your phone is:
1. Flash HSPL
2. Flash a radio
3. Flash MAGLDR
4. Flash CWM
5. Install your preffered ROM
You can get HSPL here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966228
Radio here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
MAGLDR here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893618
And CWM here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898913
There is a good basic tutorial here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021837
ROM stands for Read Only Memory, but in this case is used to refer to an android build that is installed on the phone.
MAGLDR and cLK are bootloaders, they load android.
CWM stands for ClockWorkMod Recovery, and it lets you back up and restore your phone, as well as lots of other nifty features.
Don't worry, I was new at this once (still am), it's really easy; and if you can't manage, that's what the forums are for.
Good luck!

Not that simple unfortunately. You won't have the drivers as far as I know they don't exist, you will need to run Windows as a virtual machine but I think you will lose the connection during the process..... could be fatal
Erm....... take a look at boot camp you need to create a bootcamp partition and install Windows in it, and then you can dualboot Windows and MAC OS
It would be easier to borrow a friends pc to hspl it and magldr and cwm
Once you have clockwork mod (cwm). You have the ability to install new roms directly from your SD card in the phone without it being connected to anything.
I'm sure there must be users in the hd2 section that have done it all via a MAC but I'm not one of them sorry
Edit/ if you know your way round ios you'll pick it up pretty easy the post above pretty much says it all
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Be careful tho pal your asking for trouble if you lose the usb connection whilst running hspl I'm. Not sure what would happen
Look here
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1461
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Free bump...... anyone wanna advise? I'm curios/
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whynot66 said:
Free bump...... anyone wanna advise? I'm curios/
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If you have a windows installer disk, use boot camp to dual boot, and then do all the stuff you need to do from the pinned tutorials.

was able to just paste stuff on an sd card from an old android 2.2 i had lying around my desktop. it works but won't let me connect to google server for my contacts..
I'm getting that I'm going to have to use a virtual machine though...
ehh,
that info about what everything is definitely is great though.. I will keep looking into this as I'm using a dated "firmware"

Some Advice Please

So a friend has ah HD2 where his old colleague flashed Android, dualboot. This was maybe around Feb. Now he wants a newer version on as the froyo version hes got drains battery fast and wants a new rom.
Ive never flashed a HD2 befor but have done other phones incl hero, desire, desire hd, o2x, sgs2.
Now this looks confusing with dual booting mode with nand, magldr, clk etc but given instructions I should be fine
So how would I update hes existing Android version to say miui?
Can I delete winOS totally and have Android?
Possible of completly bricking phone beyond repair?
Any recommendations etc
Thanks

It's dualbooting Android and WinMo 6.5 or WP7?
Oh. Well, it doesn't make a difference. Find a SD build, download, on SD delete Android folder, unpack new one in place of his old Froyo, ta-dah. Done. No chance of bricking, no playing with clk/magldr or anything.
I hope he made a backup of his stuff.

Spaqin said:
It's dualbooting Android and WinMo 6.5 or WP7?
Oh. Well, it doesn't make a difference. Find a SD build, download, on SD delete Android folder, unpack new one in place of his old Froyo, ta-dah. Done. No chance of bricking, no playing with clk/magldr or anything.
I hope he made a backup of his stuff.
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What SD build? How to unpack? Does this delete winOS totally? more info please

ermacwins said:
What SD build? How to unpack? Does this delete winOS totally? more info please
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No, it does not delete wm6.5 completely if you are running android from the sd card. If you wish to keep wm6.5, install a new android sd rom like you did previously. The dev of new rom will most likely state whether the data.img is compatible coming from another rom.

seanyuan62 said:
No, it does not delete wm6.5 completely if you are running android from the sd card. If you wish to keep wm6.5, install a new android sd rom like you did previously. The dev of new rom will most likely state whether the data.img is compatible coming from another rom.
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I didn't flash his phone, it was his ex colleague. He asked if its possible, to completely remove Wimp and just have Android. Is this possible with miui?

Sure. You will have to install magldr or clk, flash a new radio probably and HSPL.
Then find a NAND build that suits you best and follow the instructions to install it.

Spaqin said:
Sure. You will have to install magldr or clk, flash a new radio probably and HSPL.
Then find a NAND build that suits you best and follow the instructions to install it.
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How would I know if its magldr or clk? Also after deleting winOS is possible to comeback anyhow as a failsafe?

If there is just pure WinMo 6.5, there is no magldr or clk yet. You have to choose which one would be better.
OK. If you want to install Android and ONLY Android, clk would be better. If you wanted to have WP7 or WP7 + Android, you would have to choose magldr. But you don't, so clk is a better option.
It's VERY easy to come back after failing something. Except installing a wrong radio to a wrong device, of course. Or if something is broken inside. And it's hard to fail anything anyway, but... well, is possible.
Ask any questions regarding these thing, I will try to explain you these things and show you tutorials. Of course, finding everything for yourself would save us both time and would be more rewarding, but don't worry, I will not bite you.

Confusion with all those programs

Hi guys,
Id like to run Android on my HTC HD2, so I think Im in the righ forum.
There are however some confusing points. I get confused with all those different abbreviations and programs. Could someone please clarify, what kind of programs we use, what the difference is and so on... I know that there are two ways: by SD card and internal rom... Whats better/the difference?
What does HSPL, CLK, NAND, MAGLDR and CWM stand for, why do I need those programs?
Dont worry: I've used the search function and read some tutorials, but they are all just for one particular way, and not the other... Id just liek to get the basics, so that I can then decide...
Thanks!
the_at

Read this guide by mskip, it will help u: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948

the_at said:
Hi guys,
Id like to run Android on my HTC HD2, so I think Im in the righ forum.
There are however some confusing points. I get confused with all those different abbreviations and programs. Could someone please clarify, what kind of programs we use, what the difference is and so on... I know that there are two ways: by SD card and internal rom... Whats better/the difference?
What does HSPL, CLK, NAND, MAGLDR and CWM stand for, why do I need those programs?
Dont worry: I've used the search function and read some tutorials, but they are all just for one particular way, and not the other... Id just liek to get the basics, so that I can then decide...
Thanks!
the_at
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HSPL = When you bought your phone, it was showingspl. After you have unlocked you phone, it will show HSPL. This means that you can flash anything you want.. What hspl simply does is edit security_1 to security_0
CLK and MAGLDR - two different bootloaders. You need these to flash an android rom.
NAND - A "place" on your phone where android is saved.
CWM - Clockworkdmod, a "thing" that's needed to flash android (.zip's)
Tried to explain it in the easiest way, I hope it helped

Also try SD Android before playing with NAND version - you may just dislike it and you won't lose time spent on flash ;-)
SD Android is slower than nand version, but if you want android just for play angry birds etc. - would be enough. Great for beginners - you won't mess anything in device.

Hey guys,
thanks that helped a lot, esp. the answer of yz.hd!
Additional questions:
1. Whats the difference between the bootloaders CLK and MAGLDR? Is one better? Do they have different prerequisits/uses?
2. I dont need CWM for all android ROMs, right? Just for special ones? Is there a program for other ROMs? Does CMW have a special advantage?
Thanks so much!
the_at

the_at said:
Hey guys,
thanks that helped a lot, esp. the answer of yz.hd!
Additional questions:
1. Whats the difference between the bootloaders CLK and MAGLDR? Is one better? Do they have different prerequisits/uses?
2. I dont need CWM for all android ROMs, right? Just for special ones? Is there a program for other ROMs? Does CMW have a special advantage?
Thanks so much!
the_at
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1. MAGLDR allows you to have more control over how you boot your roms, it allowas you to run a Nand Android rom, or boot from sd, or boot a WP7 rom if you have it installed. It also allows you to boot to CWR (as well as play a kick ass game of tetris ).
CLK gives more of a "stock" android experience as your phone will not have to boot MAGLDR first, when you turn it on it boots strait to Android just like a native phone. You can also reboot right to CWR and you can charge the phone while off which is something MAGLDR currently lacks.
2. If you are going to go Nand and are using CLK or the CWR is a must as all Android Nand roms are flashed this way. It also allows you to backup and restore your rom before making changes so you can go back right where you were if you make a mistake.

Ok, thanks again.
I believe Id like to flash Android (Ice Cream sandwich) to NAND. Using CLK. Also install CWM and CWR, for this nice recovery feature.
Could you point me to the newest/best versions of those programs for a clean install?
- Android ROM, ICS, without any additions like filemanager etc. if possible
- CLK
- CWM and CWR
Great help here, guys!
Cheers, the_at
PS: Also, I read something about not having enough space on the phone for apps. As I usually install apps (in WM 6.5) to SD anyway, this is not an issue for me. However, do I need something special in Android to install to SD or can I easily choose as in WM 6.5?

[Q] Frustrated NOOB needs a little help installing rom

After several days struggle, I'm burned out. Some of the threads here have 100+ pages, and searches yield too much outdated, irrelevant info. So, I'm asking for some direction (as simple as possible, please).
I'm trying to set up my unlocked HD2 (originally T-Mo, but unlocked and using AT&T) for dual-boot, WM6.5 and Android. As you know, the choices for android rom are mind-boggling. I don't need anything fancy, just something up-to-date and stable. I would like, however, something LOUD.
Here's what I've tried so far:
Using despy1989's March 2010 guide (four years old already!), I have my HD2 booting up asking to choose Android or WM. If I choose Android, it does nothing, and defaults to WM.
I have SUNDAWG-CM7-NATIVESD rom loaded (or I think I do) in the android directory of the SD card. I'm not sure this one will meet my LOUD requirement, but since it won't load, I can't tell.
If I tap the new Android icon, it does nothing. If I tap the Android SoftReset icon, it resets but does not load Android, goes to WinMo.
If I go to File Explorer, and run haret, I get the message "failed to load file \storagecard\android\sdcard\nativesd\zimage"
What do I do next?
ANY help is much appreciated.

How did you installed Android as NativeSD? Did you made a partition on your SD in EXT4 which is needed for installing the Rom? Why you want keep WM 6.5 anyway?

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eclyptos said:
How did you installed Android as NativeSD? Did you made a partition on your SD in EXT4 which is needed for installing the Rom? Why you want keep WM 6.5 anyway?
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AFAIK, yes it is installed as NativeSD, Did not make a partition (there was conflicting advice as to whether it was necessary. I'm not ready to go "all in" and reformat my old SD card yet.)
Want to keep WM6.5 since it is the only one that works the way I need. I've been playing with a Sony X10a with Android 1.6 and am frustrated. I specifically need LOUDNESS and customizable ringtones and notifications, and relatively easy syncing with my PC.
Thanks for your reply and any further advice.

If you do not make a partition EXT4 it will never be installed so you just messing around that is why is not working. From WM6.5 can be run only SD Android version or there is another way, much longer but it's the way how it have to be.
Install MAGLRD and Recovery, probably this will wipe the phone, make the partition on SD to Install NativeSD, Install the Rom as Native SD. Then flash back the Stock WM6.5, this will wipe MAGLRD and Recovery. Now start again Android from the folder created from the installation. It should boot.

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eclyptos said:
If you do not make a partition EXT4 it will never be installed so you just messing around that is why is not working. From WM6.5 can be run only SD Android version or there is another way, much longer but it's the way how it have to be.
Install MAGLRD and Recovery, probably this will wipe the phone, make the partition on SD to Install NativeSD, Install the Rom as Native SD. Then flash back the Stock WM6.5, this will wipe MAGLRD and Recovery. Now start again Android from the folder created from the installation. It should boot.
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Sorry. As a NOOB, what you've suggested is Greek to me and far too complicated. I can't risking wiping the phone and bricking it.

techcntr said:
Sorry. As a NOOB, what you've suggested is Greek to me and far too complicated. I can't risking wiping the phone and bricking it.
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I did this 100 times and HD2 is not that easy to brick, I never heard about bricked HD2 before. Then if you don't want to do it you will never have NativeSD on your phone because the NativeSD have to be installed on EXT4 partition, there is no other way. The only Android which you can use is from this section HERE. Put it on SD with other stuff and run with the application from WM6.5. First boot is very long.

eclyptos said:
If you do not make a partition EXT4 it will never be installed so you just messing around that is why is not working
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Sounds like "eating without plate"..
techcntr said:
Sorry. As a NOOB, what you've suggested is Greek to me and far too complicated.
I can't risking wiping the phone and bricking it.
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No, wipe (task29) won't even touch SPL parts.
So, unless you're super duper unlucky using wipe command, you won't bricking your device.
I don't know if you're already flash HSPL.
I suggest you to flash HSPL first, then the rest is up to you..

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Sounds like "eating without plate"..
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Shadow_Nexus said:
No, wipe (task29) won't even touch SPL parts.
So, unless you're super duper unlucky using wipe command, you won't bricking your device.
I don't know if you're already flash HSPL.
I suggest you to flash HSPL first, then the rest is up to you..
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Yeah, You are right too, I forgot to mention HSPL and Radio have to be installed before do anything. :good:
It's all easy like eat ice cream.
Some Tips How To Do It HERE

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eclyptos said:
Yeah, You are right too, I forgot to mention HSPL and Radio have to be installed before do anything. :good:
It's all easy like eat ice cream.
Some Tips How To Do It HERE
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Do you anyone who does this sort of thing for a reasonable fee? Preferably in the SW USA?

techcntr said:
Do you anyone who does this sort of thing for a reasonable fee? Preferably in the SW USA?
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If you really can't do this I can assist you via Team Viewer, I will tell you what to do and what to download. Before that I have to see your bootloader. Send me a PM to arrange an appointament. I don't know nobody in USA at the moment or I don't know they are.

techcntr said:
So, I'm asking for some direction (as simple as possible, please).
I'm trying to set up my unlocked HD2 (originally T-Mo, but unlocked and using AT&T) for dual-boot, WM6.5 and Android.
What do I do next?
ANY help is much appreciated.
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Read this thread in HTC Leo: HD2 > HD2 Android > HD2 Android SD Development > [GUIDE] NativeSD for Windows Mobile (WM6.5) New Users
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986437
Feel free to ask for help there.
Cheers
Tom
My Note 2 to you

broken links, etc.
Szczepanik said:
Read this thread in HTC Leo: HD2 > HD2 Android > HD2 Android SD Development > [GUIDE] NativeSD for Windows Mobile (WM6.5) New Users
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986437
Feel free to ask for help there.
Cheers
Tom
My Note 2 to you
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Been trying to follow your steps, but when I get to "Native SD Install Recovery", the links are broken. (this is the very kind of frustrations I'm having - there does not appear to be one single step-by-step guide without numerous links to invalid or outdated sites. I don't need advertising either.)
I can't find the 4EXT partition (in W8.1) in order to install anything.
So, now what?