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Am I the only person that is thinking like this?

Two things...
Why are the new gingerbread ROMs (OMGB and Evervolv) themed and modified to hell and back? Why can't someone just import things (one by one) to build a stock vanilla gingerbread ROM, and then work from there? I don't want anything altered from the basic vanilla ROM but here we are, dealing with all these customizations and different themes already applied and apps thrown onto there (other than the basics like SU). I don't want any music app on my phone so WHY FORCE ME TO HAVE ONE? I don't want to only have to choose between 2 ROMs to enjoy gingerbread this early. This ultimately leads me having to alter things to GET IT BACK TO A VANILLA ROM.
Also, why must all themes have to be rainbow-eccentric and have no "flowing" colors? Most of the themes are just an eye-sore and make me think the "designer" is colorblind and leaves me to theming everything myself. No, the app doesn't look good if it has a STRONG RED next to a DEEP BLACK, with STRONG BLUE somewhere mixed in.

so, if you dont like whats being offered by the devs, step up and make your own ROM's. if you read through the threads, most users do like what is being offered and that is why they are so popular. personally i cant stand the vanilla android experiance and am currently rocking Nils Biz-sence rom...

schollianmj said:
so, if you dont like whats being offered by the devs, step up and make your own ROM's.
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This.
Why haven't you "imported things (one by one) to build a stock vanilla gingerbread ROM" if it's so easy? These devs are theming their ROMs to their (and other users') liking, and they are nice enough to post them here. Appreciate that for what it is.

I'd like a vanilla rom that I could customize myself, but I would prefer to have someone else do the work so I'll take what they give me.
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DRW315 said:
This.
Why haven't you "imported things (one by one) to build a stock vanilla gingerbread ROM" if it's so easy? These devs are theming their ROMs to their (and other users') liking, and they are nice enough to post them here. Appreciate that for what it is.
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I'm not saying it's easy, I can't do what the CM team has done, (because that's what they're doing; taking the CM fixes, applying them, and theming it to their liking) but why are the 2 only ROM dev's right now working on adding **** to a version of android that ISN'T already built for the Incredible? Why can't they make a vanilla ROM, AND THEN customize it to their liking?

rabidpencil said:
I'd like a vanilla rom that I could customize myself, but I would prefer to have someone else do the work so I'll take what they give me.
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So you'd rather have what someone else likes and thinks is "right" instead of what YOU want on YOUR phone? I'm not saying it's a bad thing but why wouldn't you want your own customizations instead of someone elses?

ilinfinityil said:
Two things...
Why are the new gingerbread ROMs (OMGB and Evervolv) themed and modified to hell and back? Why can't someone just import things (one by one) to build a stock vanilla gingerbread ROM, and then work from there? I don't want anything altered from the basic vanilla ROM but here we are, dealing with all these customizations and different themes already applied and apps thrown onto there (other than the basics like SU). I don't want any music app on my phone so WHY FORCE ME TO HAVE ONE? I don't want to only have to choose between 2 ROMs to enjoy gingerbread this early. This ultimately leads me having to alter things to GET IT BACK TO A VANILLA ROM.
Also, why must all themes have to be rainbow-eccentric and have no "flowing" colors? Most of the themes are just an eye-sore and make me think the "designer" is colorblind and leaves me to theming everything myself. No, the app doesn't look good if it has a STRONG RED next to a DEEP BLACK, with STRONG BLUE somewhere mixed in.
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Pretty sure OMGB is stock vanilla. With rare exceptions, one being messaging being on the launcher instead of the browser.
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ilinfinityil said:
Why are the new gingerbread ROMs (OMGB and Evervolv) themed and modified to hell and back? Why can't someone just import things (one by one) to build a stock vanilla gingerbread ROM, and then work from there?
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what the hell are you talking about? have you even started up the gingerbread emu or searched screenshots of GB?
holy **** man, it is vanilla. that's how google released 2.3, with the black status and lime green/orange icons. use whatever launcher you want.
these are free ROMS from unpaid developers, who are porting the ROMs and allowing you to run them WAY BEFORE it would be available to you OTA.
dude srsly

tcberg2010 said:
Pretty sure OMGB is stock vanilla. With rare exceptions, one being messaging being on the launcher instead of the browser.
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The last build I tried, it said "WeDoDroid" instead of "Verizon Wireless" or even "T-CDMA". Also, the change you just mentioned, different kernals used, different music app, probably other things I can't remember.

infotechsailor said:
what the hell are you talking about? have you even started up the gingerbread emu or searched screenshots of GB?
holy **** man, it is vanilla. that's how google released 2.3, with the black status and lime green/orange icons. use whatever launcher you want.
these are free ROMS from unpaid developers, who are porting the ROMs and allowing you to run them WAY BEFORE it would be available to you OTA.
dude srsly
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Refer to my last post quoting someone else and the list of modifications, it's obvious you didn't read my entire post and just quoted a single line.

I should also clarify that I AM thankful for all the free **** us users get from this community, no doubt about that, but I'm just merely confused about how people go about things.

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Refer to my last post quoting someone else and the list of modifications, it's obvious you didn't read my entire post and just quoted a single line.
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i read your post. you are complaining about colors and designs.
its obvious you don't know what GB is supposed to look like.
Go install eclipse and start up the GB SDK in an emu and you'll see how great the "stock vanilla GB" really is. not.

ilinfinityil said:
Two things...
Why are the new gingerbread ROMs (OMGB and Evervolv) themed and modified to hell and back? Why can't someone just import things (one by one) to build a stock vanilla gingerbread ROM, and then work from there? I don't want anything altered from the basic vanilla ROM but here we are, dealing with all these customizations and different themes already applied and apps thrown onto there (other than the basics like SU). I don't want any music app on my phone so WHY FORCE ME TO HAVE ONE? I don't want to only have to choose between 2 ROMs to enjoy gingerbread this early. This ultimately leads me having to alter things to GET IT BACK TO A VANILLA ROM.
Also, why must all themes have to be rainbow-eccentric and have no "flowing" colors? Most of the themes are just an eye-sore and make me think the "designer" is colorblind and leaves me to theming everything myself. No, the app doesn't look good if it has a STRONG RED next to a DEEP BLACK, with STRONG BLUE somewhere mixed in.
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even though you sound a little rude and demanding for things that are free....i totally agree with you.
but at the same time i in the beginning steps of my brand new laptop and im going to start compiling roms on my own.
but i defiantly know how you feel being stuck between 2 roms

infotechsailor said:
Go install eclipse and start up the GB SDK in an emu and you'll see how great the "stock vanilla GB" really is. not.
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Why go through the work of doing this when you can just whine about it instead?

DRW315 said:
Why go through the work of doing this when you can just whine about it instead?
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+1................

DS36 said:
even though you sound a little rude and demanding for things that are free....i totally agree with you.
but at the same time i in the beginning steps of my brand new laptop and im going to start compiling roms on my own.
but i defiantly know how you feel being stuck between 2 roms
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ROM developing
step 1 - get a computer
step 2 - learn to spell "definitely"
step 3 - learn to program in java
step 4 - learn to use linux
step 5 - learn extensible markups and the android os
step 6 - cook a rom
step 7 - post it on xda and ask for donations for step 8
step 8 - buy a 1337 t-shirt and a case of red bull
almost there

infotechsailor said:
i read your post. you are complaining about colors and designs.
its obvious you don't know what GB is supposed to look like.
Go install eclipse and start up the GB SDK in an emu and you'll see how great the "stock vanilla GB" really is. not.
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I'm talking about graphical modifications, such as the different font (on Evervolv) and "WeDoDroid" on OMGB. If you would've kept reading the thread I mentioned a list of things to someone else a couple posts from my first one, but I don't expect people to do that

DRW315 said:
Why go through the work of doing this when you can just whine about it instead?
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I knew I shouldn't have posted here, it's like dealing with idiots. Most of you are missing my original point.
But to address you, I've put hours into making my own ROM so it's to my own liking, and no I'm not going to upload it to the forums or show you proof because I simply do not feel the need to prove something to anonymous forum users for satisfaction.

Then just use your own ROM dude....
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keith.mcintyre26 said:
Then just use your own ROM dude....
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I am! I just wish that instead of giving us only 2 choices for gingerbread ROM, they'd start off with a basic vanilla one and then work from that, instead of customizing what they want before the ROM is even fully functioning.

Rooted vs Stock (My Impression)

Awhile ago I rooted my phone and played with a few ROMs. I was using Superclean 2.0 (I think), and PWGB to name a couple. Recently I went and tried SuperClean3 v.5 and it didn't go so well. Not to fault SC3, it was lovely until I tried to reinstall my apps from Titanium Backup. Anyway because of the difficulties I went back to stock, and OTA updated to Verizon's 2.3.5.
Now I am wondering why I Rooted in the first place. I swear my battery lasts longer and I have learned to ignore the bloatware. I originally rooted to get rid of the bloatware because I thought it was slowing down my phone. Maybe it's because I am using Verizon's Gingerbread vs. Verizon's Eclair, but it seems to be a lot better. There are some shiny new phones out there and I will up on my contract soon, but I don't see anything that makes me want to get rid of my Fascinate. The Razr is cool, Galaxy SII is cool, and the new Nexus is Cool, but I think I'll keep my Fascinate.

Don't give up until you've tried some of the other ROMs, kernels and themes here... Performance is only one potential benefit to rooting. Better customization and functionality are the best benefits imo. For starters, why not try Superclean 3 V0.5 with the TW4 addons nitsuj17 posted in the development section, along with comradesven's KGB kernel (of course, if Soviet paratroopers invade a certain Colorado High School as a result, nitsuj17 said you could blame him).
Nitsuj17 also will eventually post a new version of TSM Resurrection in which you can really customize your phone and find functionality you never knew was there. I personally use TSM Pool Party, an excellent AOSP ROM by the same team that makes Resurrection for TouchWiz. It's just one of many different ROMs you can try to unlock your phone's potential. There is also PWGB, which I see you're familiar with, and GeeWiz which I understand brings a more stock experience. Cyanogenmod 7.1 is probably the most popular Android ROM of them all, and MIUI offers a very unique user experience, and all of these can be found here. As for my initial suggestion, the KGB kernel I mentioned might pick up your phone's performance if you go back to Superclean 3.
Has anyone seen John Connor?

@skynet that was beautifully written man! I didn't know were capable of this kind of coherent, sincere, well balanced kind of writing.
Or... who the f.. k stole your phone ?
"the relentless pursuit of the perfect rom"

skynet11 said:
Don't give up
Has anyone seen John Connor?
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Ya I definitely would have told him to give up, mad props!

Joshkoss stole it

ICS V4 and dont look back!

droidstyle said:
ICS V4 and dont look back!
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There's version 4!? I only see v3..
Edit: Lol, nevermind I didnt realize it could be in ROM manager, I was checking at Rootzwiki. Cant confirm though cause ROM manager is detecting my fascinate as a epic4g or a i9000 on SC 0.5 when confirming to flash CWR and don't want to chance borking anything. How is though droidstyle? Is it beta or still alpha stage?
BTW didnt mean to hijack the thread.. sorry

VGSmatt said:
it was lovely until I tried to reinstall my apps from Titanium Backup. Anyway because of the difficulties I went back to stock, and OTA updated to Verizon's 2.3.5.
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when you restored your apps did you also restore data? If so, that would likely be the source of the "difficulties". Just a hunch since you weren't real specific about difficulties. If you were coming from froyo or eclair to GB restoring data with apps would most certainly make life hell.

sol_671 said:
There's version 4!? I only see v3..
Edit: Lol, nevermind I didnt realize it could be in ROM manager, I was checking at Rootzwiki. Cant confirm though cause ROM manager is detecting my fascinate as a epic4g or a i9000 on SC 0.5 when confirming to flash CWR and don't want to chance borking anything. How is though droidstyle? Is it beta or still alpha stage?
BTW didnt mean to hijack the thread.. sorry
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Well Jt is not really advertising the latest release, but if you look thru the last 2 pages or so in the alphalulz thread on rootz, you will see his "stealthmode" post of a new release and patch with pull down menu widgets. Camcorder,mms send still are broke, but alot of tweaks have been done. I can now run a live wallpaper and the launcher is smoother than v3 was with a regular wallpaper. Launcher settings aew enabled, home screen rotates, galaxy s settings work for controlling bln, usb mass storage woeks and a few other things im missing. But its a daily driver for sure....very smooth now. Quadrant around 2200 compared to 1800 before for me. So the hardware acceleration must be tweaked in some aswell.

droidstyle said:
Well Jt is not really advertising the latest release, but if you look thru the last 2 pages or so in the alphalulz thread on rootz, you will see his "stealthmode" post of a new release and patch with pull down menu widgets. Camcorder,mms send still are broke, but alot of tweaks have been done. I can now run a live wallpaper and the launcher is smoother than v3 was with a regular wallpaper. Launcher settings aew enabled, home screen rotates, galaxy s settings work for controlling bln, usb mass storage woeks and a few other things im missing. But its a daily driver for sure....very smooth now. Quadrant around 2200 compared to 1800 before for me. So the hardware acceleration must be tweaked in some aswell.
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Thanks for the update!!! Might be worth flashing then.
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A Plea For Sanity: Samsung ICS Roms

I'd like to begin this rant with a disclaimer.
I am not an Android developer, or a Linux enthusiast, or an expert of any kind. All I am is a keen Android user (Since the HTC Desire) who loves customising my phone.
I am EXTREMELY grateful for all the hard work of the people who know more than I do (Developers, Rom chefs, etc) and I mean them no offense.
They are the ones who make buying an Android phone worthwhile, and this community relies on them.
Now, here it is: Why, Why, Why, can't we have a custom rom with the stock Samsung look?
There are some excellent custom roms out there, offering reduced size, performance improvements, improved customisation ability: The likes of RocketRom, MidTeam, Criskelo, and so on.
But every single one of them has a mismatched, ugly, patchwork of a theme, with elements of AOSP ICS, Galaxy S3, and god knows what else.
Many of them slap a black and blue status bar ontop of the Samsung framework, which clashes and looks horrible.
MidTeam used to have a zip file to restore the stock theme, which was great, (Thanks Maxicet!) but this has been dropped from the current version.
Please, I beg you, developers:
Please give us an option to keep the stock Samsung look on our ICS roms.
Or if you are going to do a theme for your rom, at least make it consistent, like the Galaxy SIII look.
Leave the theming to the people that know aesthetics, and keep doing what you do best: Making great Android roms.
Thankyou very much

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A stock custom rom would be great! Some ROMs have those elements that I really don't like (for example an ugly statusbar).
But wrong section dude
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Army92 said:
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A stock custom rom would be great! Some ROMs have those elements that I really don't like (for example an ugly statusbar).
But wrong section dude
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Ah yes, I just realised this should probably be in the 'General' Section.
Sorry, Mods

1) wrong section mate.
2) there is AlBa ROM which is stock look and feeling.
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I think this is the right place for that discussion! I need too custom rom without theme modification! Except ugly looking theme, this modifications come with many problems with some programs, since they change core things in the operation system!

Hi,
I've got rooted lpy ROM with 15 toggle status bar, s3 touchwiz 5*5, Franco r6 overclocked with tegrak and it's brilliant
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Denkov said:
I think this is the right place for that discussion! I need too custom rom without theme modification! Except ugly looking theme, this modifications come with many problems with some programs, since they change core things in the operation system!
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Once again....
AlBa ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1579301
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eliashadow said:
1) wrong section mate.
2) there is AlBa ROM which is stock look and feeling.
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Thanks, I'll give Alba a try

chongo_au said:
Thanks, I'll give Alba a try
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Definitively Alba ROM is what you need!

Stock samsung UI is ****, but I also hate clock on the center, like on Criskelo ICS ROM. I prefer stock android style UI. This option must be at all ROMs, and official stock too.

place a request for checkrom developer

Agreed, we need good look custome Rom.

anonymous572 said:
Stock samsung UI is ****, but I also hate clock on the center, like on Criskelo ICS ROM. I prefer stock android style UI. This option must be at all ROMs, and official stock too.
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there is StockLook Theme for Rocket ROM also....just the bettery icon is customized and of course the 15 toggle (but also in Stocklook)....and:
with really MINOR knowledge everyone can build a complete stocklook with NO theming modifications at all!!!!!!!! If you are not able to do yourself, start a request in theming section - this is 5 minute work to do complete stocklook

if i might just make a quick statement,
the rom by the devs were designed to the way they want it. not to how the public wants it. it was made specifically for themselves for their own usage but were kind enough to share their work for us here on xda.
for us to use.
u can put in some requests on how the theming or looks should be done, and it would be entirely up to them if they want to attend to those requests or not.
i'm no developer and hence i cant complain what i didnt pay for but instead got it for free.
they could've easily exercise the option of "if u dun like it, dun use it".

Cassies xlr rom is stock look
But in all fairness if you dont see summin you like.
Spend 5 hours reading on google and build your own. As eyebee said its not that hard to do and very satisyfying
I may be a spanner but your all nuts

thering1975 said:
Cassies xlr rom is stock look
But in all fairness if you dont see summin you like.
Spend 5 hours reading on google and build your own. As eyebee said its not that hard to do and very satisyfying
I may be a spanner but your all nuts
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some people open threads instead of at least looking inside the ROM descriptions (or pics inside!!!)....or they could kindly ask inside the ROM threads for wanting complete stocklook....but hey, why? It is more easy to start demanding before reading...

sharkteef said:
the rom by the devs were designed to the way they want it. not to how the public wants it.
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I don't agree with you. This is manufactors, who don't care about customers and their opinion. ROM developers making ROMs first of all for us, not for money. We can donate them if we like their work and can ask to add/change something in the ROM. Too bad we can't do the same for manufactors.

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I don't agree with you. This is manufactors, who don't care about customers and their opinion. ROM developers making ROMs first of all for us, not for money. We can donate them if we like their work and can ask to add/change something in the ROM. Too bad we can't do the same for manufactors.
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Rom cooks make the ROMs for themselves (at least me and most of the other ones i know)...but they like to share their work and of course you are welcome to ask for additional features inside the threads - and not open an extra one.....

ya bro the keyword here is donate. not sell.
if the rom devs were like manufacturers, they'd sell it to u for a fee. but in this case, the rom devs willingly share their hardwork to you without asking for a single cent. the donation part is totally optional.
there is no legal contract binding here. and i will say it again, rom devs do not make roms for us. they make it for themselves but are very much willing to share it with us.

This thread is totally out of place and mind. Reported.

Where is the Thread of Slim ICS v4.2?

hi
was the development for the slim ics port stopped? because the thread just vanished and i can't find it again. Am i too stupid or did somebody really delete it?
the thread about the sd version is still there: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1763112
the thread was here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1759815
cu

I haven't been following it lately, but I saw a dispute whether the developer should have made a slim version of an already available ROM or not. So it is likely that the original ROM developer asked to cease the slim port and sought a thread closure.

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I haven't been following it lately, but I saw a dispute whether the developer should have made a slim version of an already available ROM or not. So it is likely that the original ROM developer asked to cease the slim port and sought a thread closure.
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if the thread would have been simply closed like others i would agree, but this thread vanished completely. the dispute was on the first two pages. how can a rom-cooker demand that his android rom doesn't get ported? credits where given where they where due and apart of that aosp is oss.

Screemi said:
if the thread would have been simply closed like others i would agree, but this thread vanished completely. the dispute was on the first two pages. how can a rom-cooker demand that his android rom doesn't get ported? credits where given where they where due and apart of that aosp is oss.
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Fully agree wirh you.
What was wrong with porting rom and giving credits to original Dev?
For me it was the fastest, smallest ics rom for hd2.
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Post deleted. But i have links. Long live Google Cache

From slim ics site:
"Supported Devices here, no extra devices for now ( and NO PORTS of Slim ICS)"
"http://source.android.com New versions will also be announced through this site."
"Fully built from AOSP sources with some cherry picks from CM and AOKP team, Easy to customize features (thanks to AOKP team)"
Atm trying to be calm but... Lets just say it piss me off this kind of thing.
This guy need to look at Miui team, they have right set of mind.
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Where is @zorua BTW? Has him have deleted too?

Traukoman said:
Where is @zorua BTW? Has him have deleted too?
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Hope not!
It would be nice if a moderator (or someone that knows and is objective about it) can tell us what happened. If it ended up in a heated argument I wouldn't want someone telling us only his half of the story - but I really would like to know.

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Hope not!
It would be nice if a moderator (or someone that knows and is objective about it) can tell us what happened. If it ended up in a heated argument I wouldn't want someone telling us only his half of the story - but I really would like to know.
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Same here. Btw dev of original Slim ics rom seems had allergy reaction on porting his rom. As i allready posted. What i dont get it, how in open source community is it possible? Isn't whole point to be open, share with ofc giving credits to ppl which contributed?
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maneken25 said:
Same here. Btw dev of original Slim ics rom seems had allergy reaction on porting his rom. As i allready posted. What i dont get it, how in open source community is it possible? Isn't whole point to be open, share with ofc giving credits to ppl which contributed?
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If it was pulled by a moderator upon request personally I think it's within reason. The thread wasn't stated as being Unofficial, which it should have been, and with a system partition of 130MB it can hardly even be called a slim OS (other full fat ROMs are 150); nevermind comparable to SlimICS which are half that size (54 - 70). And besides the last post I seen on the thread was from the OP who said he wasn't happy with the build and wanted to change the ROM he was porting from, and it was only an alpha.
On a similar note, if a small ICS rom is to come along, I personally thing it would be benificial if we could utilise squashfs. This would require kernel support, the toggles are there to turn on squashfs support in dorimanx, but it may require a module from somewhere, I'll PM dori tomorrow concerning this unless someone here know if squash can/can't be used with our bootloaders / device. Only problem I can for see is in module compatibility, and if it works should allow for smaller versions of our current ROMs.

Your position is legit but non of the slim ics roms include gapps and trebucht as launcher. It was comparable to other full roms with about 50-100mb less memory. And for me it's totally legit to port a ROM from one to an other device if you give credit and state which Tom was ported. Would be different if there was some own coding for tools and drivers was done. Don't distribute my tools without my permission is different than don't share something i picked up somewhere else and used it for my own work. That's not how the gold licence works.
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HypoTurtle said:
If it was pulled by a moderator upon request personally I think it's within reason. The thread wasn't stated as being Unofficial, which it should have been, and with a system partition of 130MB it can hardly even be called a slim OS (other full fat ROMs are 150); nevermind comparable to SlimICS which are half that size (54 - 70). And besides the last post I seen on the thread was from the OP who said he wasn't happy with the build and wanted to change the ROM he was porting from, and it was only an alpha.
On a similar note, if a small ICS rom is to come along, I personally thing it would be benificial if we could utilise squashfs. This would require kernel support, the toggles are there to turn on squashfs support in dorimanx, but it may require a module from somewhere, I'll PM dori tomorrow concerning this unless someone here know if squash can/can't be used with our bootloaders / device. Only problem I can for see is in module compatibility, and if it works should allow for smaller versions of our current ROMs.
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Most of ics roms are from 150 to 220m(miui).
This rom without gapps was around 85mb.
I have atm slim ics with trimmed gapps and some media files that fit in less then 120mb, if i compare to other ics rom which i used as trimmet down, they were from 140 to 190mb imho it was really Slim version of rom
Edit: Maybe it was beta version but worked without problems and it was the fastest ics i tried and i tried them alot
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maneken25 said:
Most of ics roms are from 150 to 220m(miui).
This rom without gapps was around 85mb.
I have atm slim ics with trimmed gapps and some media files that fit in less then 120mb, if i compare to other ics rom which i used as trimmet down, they were from 140 to 190mb imho it was really Slim version of rom
Edit: Maybe it was beta version but worked without problems and it was the fastest ics i tried and i tried them alot
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Fair point, the last zip I downloaded had a system folder of 130MB thats where I got my sizes from,have had a play with squashfs and have shrunk this down from 130 to 92MB. Will try tomorrow to get a kernel to compile properly and see if squash works here. Haven't tried slim myself, currently running PA and can't see how it can be faster. Have you had any issues when trying to make a call /pressing the call button?

Screemi said:
Your position is legit but non of the slim ics roms include gapps and trebucht as launcher. It was comparable to other full roms with about 50-100mb less memory. And for me it's totally legit to port a Tom from one to an other device if you give credit and state which Tom was ported. Would be different if there was some own coding for tools and drivers was done. Don't distribute my tools without my permission is different than don't share something i picked up somewhere else and used it for my own work. That's not how the gold licence works.
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Tom who?
The thread is not in the trash-can subforum (Confirmed)
It was serious then

+ Que PPC said:
Tom who?
The thread is not in the trash-can subforum (Confirmed)
It was serious then
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Tom is dictionary suggestion for ROM, it happens often to my SwiftKey keyboard also
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HypoTurtle said:
Fair point, the last zip I downloaded had a system folder of 130MB thats where I got my sizes from,have had a play with squashfs and have shrunk this down from 130 to 92MB. Will try tomorrow to get a kernel to compile properly and see if squash works here. Haven't tried slim myself, currently running PA and can't see how it can be faster. Have you had any issues when trying to make a call /pressing the call button?
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If i don't consider common issues which have most of ics hd2, like sometimes funky memory management which on heavy duty can produce little problems, there aren't any un ordinary problem.
Calls working very snappy.
In fact whole rom is fast, responsive, low battery consumption, apps which i tested working correctly even Ted app.
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+ Que PPC said:
Tom who?
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don't you know Tom the damnautocorrection cat?
Mmhh, not even in the trash sub and the user got deleted as well? Must have been really serious. Would love to know what happened.
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Screemi said:
don't you know Tom the damnautocorrection cat?
Mmhh, not even in the trash sub and the user got deleted as well? Must have been really serious. Would love to know what happened.
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he didnt get deleted http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4212197

HypoTurtle said:
Haven't tried slim myself, currently running PA and can't see how it can be faster.
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I tried both, as well as some other ICS rom and believe me, it's faster than any other 4.0.4 around here. In fact I'm using it as my daily and I find it excellent, such a shame the thread has been deleted.

Hi ppl, sorry for the silence on this. Apparently there was a problem with permissions for Zorua's thread, I asked the moderators advice on the future of my thread, and it was decided to close my thread also. I have no problem with this decision.
Sorry for any inconvenience to anybody caused by this episode.
It is a great shame though, it was a really nice build.

custom roms for arc s review

hi every one
i would like to open a thread about reviews on custom roms on ARC S
reviews made as ORDINARY USER
it is just about how you think of your device AFTER a custom rom
what you like or dislike.....
what you miss or need and didn't found ....(no need to tell how and what you do , because that's another subject)
NO NEED to post Q or BUGS or HOW TO or REQUESTS or DEEP DEVELOPER details JUST....USER OPINION!!!
AND please give credits to the developers of the ROMS by posting links to threads you found the custom rom in.
Starting form here:
Arc S with rooted GB (LT18i 4.0.2.A.0.62) and CWM installed
AtoMic GB 5.0 final (custom rom)
AtoMic Gb 5.0 Arc S patch!
Atomic mod system ui
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2083286
-device working fine no lags or errors ..until now
-installing apps &games and they are working good for me
-no file manager pre-installed
-don't like ring tones
my overall opinion it is GOOD rom to try!!!:good::good:

You should use the respective Rom threads to post reveiws about romS!
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allright if everyone wants it

Well I think it's a good idea for a thread that could help people in finding ROM's with features they are looking for. I dislike posting off topic so here I go:
CyanogenMod 10
+Clean
+Stable
+Fast
+Not as bloated as stock ICS
+JB notifications are useful
+Supported and actively developed
+Open source
-Camera is awful
-Ringtones could be better but who really cares?
Oh and don't take XtremeSilencer seriously he's not so bright...

pypcier said:
Well I think it's a good idea for a thread that could help people in finding ROM's with features they are looking for. I dislike posting off topic so here I go:
CyanogenMod 10
+Clean
+Stable
+Fast
+Not as bloated as stock ICS
+JB notifications are useful
+Supported and actively developed
+Open source
-Camera is awful
-Ringtones could be better but who really cares?
Oh and don't take XtremeSilencer seriously he's not so bright...
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i dont know why you want to pick up fights with everyone?
ya right i forgot.. you dont belong here

pypcier said:
Well I think it's a good idea for a thread that could help people in finding ROM's with features they are looking for.
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The way People can find what they're looking for is by reading the ROM threads in the development section, not by reading noobs opinions on one of the many variations of a "best ROM" thread, which this is, evident by the short summary of what the OP thinks about the ROM.
I can't agree more. Which ROM is the fastest? Which kernel is best? etc. etc. It's like walking into a bar and asking which drink is the best. You can't get your answer because every person around has a personal taste and looking for something different.
Going further. Telling that one ROM is better than another is quite disrespectful to developers. Most of them spent much time making their work for FREE and one guy can easily depreciate their work.
If you're looking for answer - try. It's easy and making it on your own is much funnier than looking for spoon feeding in every situations. Thinking is fun
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Oh and don't take XtremeSilencer seriously he's not so bright...
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Their signature shows they're a bit brighter, and bigger contributor than you're ever going to be.

Sorry ,,i try 3 or 4 rom,,,i think rom ULTIMATE HD 3.0.2 FROM JADDER IS BATTER,,,you must try it,,
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syahipul said:
Sorry ,,i try 3 or 4 rom,,,i think rom ULTIMATE HD 3.0.2 FROM JADDER IS BATTER,,,you must try it,,
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I can't see this as valid review, because every user is different and every user has its own needs. 2 people will not have totally same user experience on same ROM and kernel.

XtremeSilencer said:
You should use the respective Rom threads to post reveiws about romS!
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allright if everyone wants it
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yes if we want to review a SPECEFIC ROM .This thread is about USER OPINIO about the custom Rom they tried...and any comments about that OPINION is welcomed

syahipul said:
Sorry ,,i try 3 or 4 rom,,,i think rom ULTIMATE HD 3.0.2 FROM JADDER IS BATTER,,,you must try it,,
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Need to know why it's better for you and why the others are not....

XperienceD said:
The wanoon pikople can find what they're looking for is by reading the ROM threads in the development section, not by reading noobs opinions on one of the many variations of a "best ROM" thread, which this is, evident by the short summary of what the OP thinks about the ROM.
Their signature shows they're a bit brighter, and bigger contributor than you're ever going to be.
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No need to turn the thread into (picking on noobs)thread it's about USER OPINIONS NOOBS OR NON-NOOBS
No need mock or disrespect commenters just because YOU THINK YOU KNOW MORE THAN THEM
No need to tell any one where or how to find ROMS
As long as no forum rules is broken :
Don't tell any one what and what not to say
Don't turn commenting into PERSONAL.
And last thing;
IAM A NOOB AND NOOBS ARE WELCOME TO FEEL FREE AND SHARE COMMENTS here on this thread.....Cause that's what this forum is all about SHARE...FREE..COMMENTS

Wrong. XDA is a developers' site. If you're a noob, then make yourself not one, or leave
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Actually I have an Ultimate HD of course, with Ultimate HD Mod and I like it very much.
+almost no lags
+xperia z theme
+modded statusbar (better than stock, I think)
+configurable
+quite frequent updates
-few useless system apps
Grade: 5,5 (in Poland we have grading scale from 2-5 at universities )
Previously I had used several other ROM`s, for example Viper Xpieria (good, 4,5-5), Racing Bean (not so good, 3-3,5), CyanogenMod 10 (good, 4), MIUI (good, 4), Jelly Sandwich (very good, 5, but it`s no longer developed I think) and CAMPS+ (bad, 2,5-3).
So to sum up, in my opinion the best ROM actually is Ultimate HD + Ultimate HD Mod, cause of no lagging, stability, and almost no bugs.

I've been using Custom ROMs for about 6 months. So, didn't try too many of them. The reason why I switched to custom ROM was Sony Bloatware and the slowness of official ICS ROM. What I was looking for was more internal space and get the phone up to GB speeds.
First try was CM9.
+ Easy to install, best documentation out there,
+ Good customization options,
+ Frees up load of memory,
+ The GUI doesn't lag too much
+ Fast boot-up.
- Apollo player (hated it and due to regional issues, I couldn't install Google Music),
- WiFi issues
Next I tried racing bean with Fusion 4.4
+ The GUI is much more fluid than anything I tried on my Arc,
+ Customization is on the same level as CM9,
+ Same internal storage usage as CM9,
+ Includes good players/utilities,
+ Battery life didn't shorten despite the fact that the phone became more fluid and responsive,
+ WiFi locks very fast and stable,
+ No issues with 3G,
- There are 3 camera programs included. The panaroma one doesn't even launch (force close immediately). The other two are definitely below the Sony's original camera application,
- The kernel boot takes forever. I see the Fusion logo for about 40 seconds. Once the Nexus animation starts, the boot-up goes very fast. I get the feeling that the Fusion kernel is waiting for a timeout,
- The phone reboots occasionally. Especially when GPS is used (like with dedicated navigation programs). I think when the phone is under heavy load (you feel that the GUI starts stuttering and lag becomes apparent) almost immediately the Nexus X logo comes up.
I heard good things about the Ultimate HD ROM. Will try that one once I get some free time.

babkir said:
yes if we want to review a SPECEFIC ROM .This thread is about USER OPINIO about the custom Rom they tried...and any comments about that OPINION is welcomed
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Each user will have different experience with each ROM. So an opinion from a certain user about a certain ROM may differ from another user. The only way to truly find the best ROM for your phone is to try it out.
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tangosierra_ said:
Wrong. XDA is a developers' site. If you're a noob, then make yourself not one, or leave
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i know XDA is a developers' site it's on the TITLE..... but leaving is another thing,when i breaks a forum rule i think i will be forced to leave till that happen(if it could ever) i think i will STAY. after all WRONG or WRIHT depends on where you STAND and WHAT you are tallking about.
The NOOB-thing:
if the site admins don't LIKE noobs or don't WANT them to post they coud have made subuscrition rule that ANY ONE shoud POST some thing he actually DEVEOPED before posting
AND for GOD'S sake don't keep on posting anti-noobs or NO-use comments here...if you want it to die just wait for it....don't bother to replay..you'll just make it last longer!!!!

popthosegaskets said:
Each user will have different experience with each ROM. So an opinion from a certain user about a certain ROM may differ from another user. The only way to truly find the best ROM for your phone is to try it out.
僕のLT18iから送られてきた
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and that different experience we would like to share and not HOW to find BEST ROM

babkir said:
and that different experience we would like to share and not HOW to find BEST ROM
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u should try by yourself. believe me buddy, its fun if you try by youself. This is not about how you install something that is inserted into your device, and you show people that you mostly have advanced technology. more than that comrade ... it's about development.
respect those who have tried to create a custom ROM and share it here...

X-gamer is SUPER FAST!!!
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Stupid Macbook Air can't fly

good room and very flixable but have 2 prob power sever axperia arc s 4.0.4 and restart phone

Best ROM's for Arc S (Stable only)
Well I don't have 10 post under my belt so I can not post on developer thread but am a hyper droid flasher. Rooted my phone the very next day and voided its warranty. Since then have used many many ROMs but only few are there to remember.
Let me just go by Droid OS versions:
1. ICS 4.0.4= Pureness ROMS, VIPER
2. JB 4.1.2 = Slim bean or Super JB
3. JB 4.2.2 = Paranod Android v3.6 (Rizal Lovins) My current ROM