Does anyone know if it will be possible to boot Windows 8 on the Asus Eee pad once it has been released?
Unfortunately I doubt there will be support for the Tegra hardware in windows. From what I have seen of the tablets out there Nvidia based units are Android and Intel Atom are Windows.
stujuk said:
Unfortunately I doubt there will be support for the Tegra hardware in windows. From what I have seen of the tablets out there Nvidia based units are Android and Intel Atom are Windows.
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Windows 8 will be arm enabled. Whether or not the bootloader on the tab will boot it, nobody knows.
ryan stewart said:
Windows 8 will be arm enabled. Whether or not the bootloader on the tab will boot it, nobody knows.
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Nevermind Windows itself, the software won't work anyway until (if) they make an arm version of it.
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and now...after coming windows 8 i like to install it on my eee pad transformer....
i know it's not available right now....but my Q is that...
will i be able to install windows 8 on my eee pad transformer or not????
Technically you can because the Tegra chip runs on the ARM architecture and Windows 8 will be supported on ARM but the effort required to do this would be immense as new drivers need to be created and finding a way of installing it onto the system needs to be found.
I just worry about the rom size. If win8 arm version is stronger than wp7, maybe the system size will be bigger. Another question is the bootloader. I think we perhaps see the wp7 ported on pad first, then it is possible to see eight. Win8 is more to do than wp7. I think wp7 and win8 are brothers. MS said no wp7 on pad. But is doesn＇t mean wp7 can＇t. And wp7 pad version maybe is win8 arm. You can find win8 arm version is still a mistery. Just a little pictures and no video. PC version must different with arm version. That is why no more news. So just wait for the devs to port wp7 first. But until now no tegra wp7 phone released.
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liu2002 said:
I just worry about the rom size. If win8 arm version is stronger than wp7, maybe the system size will be bigger. Another question is the bootloader. I think we perhaps see the wp7 ported on pad first, then it is possible to see eight. Win8 is more to do than wp7. I think wp7 and win8 are brothers. MS said no wp7 on pad. But is doesn＇t mean wp7 can＇t. And wp7 pad version maybe is win8 arm. You can find win8 arm version is still a mistery. Just a little pictures and no video. PC version must different with arm version. That is why no more news. So just wait for the devs to port wp7 first. But until now no tegra wp7 phone released.
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Win7 is for x86 architectures
Win 8 for x86 and ARM
So the only one which could work on the transformer is win8
elmonch said:
Win7 is for x86 architectures
Win 8 for x86 and ARM
So the only one which could work on the transformer is win8
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He's talking about WP7, windows phone 7, or MS's ARM-based cell-phone OS.
With windows 8 now supposting ARM processors I was wondering if it would be possible to somehow flash the os onto the Iconia A500?
assassin82492 said:
With windows 8 now supposting ARM processors I was wondering if it would be possible to somehow flash the os onto the Iconia A500?
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When they release the ARM version, hopefully someone here will figure out a way to get it onto our tabs. Since the ARM version will run on everything from cellphones to tablets, I'm pretty sure the A500 will have the hardware to run it. Since the only version of Win8 out is the X86 / X64 developers release version, we will have to wait for the ARM version to see for certain.
I can't imagine that the A500 will not have the capabilities to run win8, whether or not someone will port it over to our tabs is another story altogether.
Well then I cant wait for the ARM version. I have been running the x64 version on my laptop and I havta say its really nice. I really would like to dual boot it on my A500 with android. it just feels like it would be perfect for it.
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With windows 8 now supposting ARM processors I was wondering if it would be possible to somehow flash the os onto the Iconia A500?
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If it does, it will big blow on the Android, because many of people will move to the W8.
I guess Android 4 is will come quicker than W8 for Iconia devices.
assassin82492 said:
Well then I cant wait for the ARM version. I have been running the x64 version on my laptop and I havta say its really nice. I really would like to dual boot it on my A500 with android. it just feels like it would be perfect for it.
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The "Developers Release" of Win 8 sux as far as the touch screen experience goes compared to Win 7 as of this time. Not sure if you're using it on touchscteen or not. Win 8 is far from release, but if we only believe half the hype, it should not only bring all the platforms together (which is Microsoft's intent), but should be pretty amazing (again, once it's finished).
First of all, if there's already a thread about this, sorry I didn't see it but I searched.
My question is will there be a way to dual boot Windows 8 and ICS (or whatever Android we have during Win 8 tablet releases)? I've seen all the dual boot tablets introduced at Computex and INSTANTLY fell in love with the idea of having both the OS'es at my fingertips, but at the same time I know the official solutions will be unnecessarily expensive.
I was wondering if it's theoretically possible to buy a dedicated Windows 8 tablet, not the RT version, and eventually mod it to run Android. This will make my fall purchase of a tablet so much easier.
Not possible if the tablet has windows 8 ARM installed
If a tablet comes with Windows 8 ARM Preinstalled, you basically can't dual boot ICS on it. Why? Because Windows 8 for ARM requires the tablet manufacturer to enable secure boot on those devices. Thus, enabling secure boot won't let you dual boot Win8 and Android on it. Microsoft is very clever, they do really start to block linux and lock the tablets to Windows 8 ARM only.
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If a tablet comes with Windows 8 ARM Preinstalled, you basically can't dual boot ICS on it. Why? Because Windows 8 for ARM requires the tablet manufacturer to enable secure boot on those devices. Thus, enabling secure boot won't let you dual boot Win8 and Android on it. Microsoft is very clever, they do really start to block linux and lock the tablets to Windows 8 ARM only.
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Yea I know you can't do it with the ARM tablets, that's the windows rt version. I was asking towards the other regular Windows 8 tablets. Can you dual boot ICS on those?
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Yea I know you can't do it with the ARM tablets, that's the windows rt version. I was asking towards the other regular Windows 8 tablets. Can you dual boot ICS on those?
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Ohh... If a tablet comes with an Intel or AMD processor inside and not ARM, then this will be possible. You can dualboot Win8 and ICS on it
mrchezco1995 said:
Ohh... If a tablet comes with an Intel or AMD processor inside and not ARM, then this will be possible. You can dualboot Win8 and ICS on it
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Cool, is this already being done? Can you link if possible? I tried searching but couldn't find anything. This just made my tablet shopping a lot easier for the fall.
Android is Open Source and Windows 8 is commercial so.............
iiDeadSeriousii said:
Cool, is this already being done? Can you link if possible? I tried searching but couldn't find anything. This just made my tablet shopping a lot easier for the fall.
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Yes, you can run Android on x86, but many of the native apps won't work as they're made for arm processors. Take a look here: http://www.android-x86.org/
intel is putting its medfield CPUs, which are x86 atom-based SoCs, into android smartphones right now. Expect to see the same chips in W8 tablets. with that said, it should be fairly likely to see a dualbooting tablet.
also, i'd like to point you towards the Asus Tranformer AiO, shown off at Computex.
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Cool, is this already being done? Can you link if possible? I tried searching but couldn't find anything. This just made my tablet shopping a lot easier for the fall.
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It's already been done on some PCs, Laptops, and including a windows tablet. Check it out here
Take note that this is only Android-x86. A ported version of android for x86 devices
You can find the Android-x86 project here
Here's what a tablet with Windows 8 RT inside http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR5Xh_1U35s
Would it be possible to run x86 windows 8 on the new medfield phones like the Orange San Diego and the Lava Xolo?
It would be interesting to run the metro ui on the smartphone itself but it will get better if you just hook up your phone to a monitor/laptop dock and enjoy a windows desktop experience (like the motorola atrix and this).
I have always been a fan of the OQO UMPC and this would be the modern version of that.
thank you
I have dual boot on a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (which has a x86 Intel processor) with Windows 8 Release Preview and Android ICS.
First I installed Win8 using a boot stick which you can create using this tool and the cd image you downloaded. Then I shrinked the size of the Windows partition to free up some space for Android.
Then I used the latest Atom image from Android x86 to install Android from another boot stick using this tool.
When installing Android don't forget to install GRUB boot loader.
Once you done that you can choose which OS to boot every time you start the device. Unfortunately it doesn't work using touch. You have to have a USB keyboard attached to choose the entry that is not default (in this case Windows 8).
cypher49 said:
Would it be possible to run x86 windows 8 on the new medfield phones like the Orange San Diego and the Lava Xolo?
It would be interesting to run the metro ui on the smartphone itself but it will get better if you just hook up your phone to a monitor/laptop dock and enjoy a windows desktop experience (like the motorola atrix and this).
I have always been a fan of the OQO UMPC and this would be the modern version of that.
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I think running Win8 on a Phone with a x86 cpu like the medfield atoms from intel is possible, but you can't run metro apps on the phone's screen itself because the phone only has a resolution of 1024x600. Metro apps requires 1024x768 in order to run and in order to use "snap", a resolution of 1366x768 is required. So I think you need to hook up a mouse and a keyboard on the phone in order to enjoy the new metro feature of Windows 8 on a phone hooked up to your HDTV
Memphizzz said:
I have dual boot on a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (which has a x86 Intel processor) with Windows 8 Release Preview and Android ICS.
First I installed Win8 using a boot stick which you can create using this tool and the cd image you downloaded. Then I shrinked the size of the Windows partition to free up some space for Android.
Then I used the latest Atom image from Android x86 to install Android from another boot stick using this tool.
When installing Android don't forget to install GRUB boot loader.
Once you done that you can choose which OS to boot every time you start the device. Unfortunately it doesn't work using touch. You have to have a USB keyboard attached to choose the entry that is not default (in this case Windows 8).
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Uhh no. Galaxy Tab 10.1s use the ARM nVidia Tegra 2 SOC and are pre loaded with android honeycomb unless you have a unique version that no one else in the world does and no one has heard about.
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Memphizzz said:
I have dual boot on a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (which has a x86 Intel processor) with Windows 8 Release Preview and Android ICS.
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Hey there's no Galaxy Tab with a x86 processor (Intel or AMD). If there's a samsung tab with a x86 cpu on it, then it's not on the galaxy series.
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Sorry I meant Samsung Slate 7 tablet which has a Core i5 processor...
Anyway, the method above should work with any device running an Intel processor.
@OP, Seeing as Asus has a Transformer AiO that does exactly what you said, then yes its possible
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Sorry I meant Samsung Slate 7 tablet which has a Core i5 processor...
Anyway, the method above should work with any device running an Intel processor.
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Ohh... So that's why. Hehe. Anyone makes mistakes right? Hehe. Don't worry
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Memphizzz said:
Sorry I meant Samsung Slate 7 tablet which has a Core i5 processor...
Anyway, the method above should work with any device running an Intel processor.
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Ah OK. Sorry if I came off as an ass about it.
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i'm running windows8 and ICS with dual boot on ExoPC tablet xD
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This will probably be considered a noob question, and I apologize if this is question is in the wrong place, but is it within reason to dual-boot android on a windows RT tablet? The answer may determine my purchase of a windows tablet when they arrive, because I like both android and windows on tablets.
-Dave
Not possible. Windows RT uses Secure Boot, BitLocker and other security mechanisms so it will be extremely hard to break.
A little question to the OP, why?
TravisAntonio said:
A little question to the OP, why?
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Games and previously purchased apps would be my best guess. If there ends up being good android emulation (bluestacks) then I would think that there is no reason at all.
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TravisAntonio said:
A little question to the OP, why?
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Because Android was built from the ground up on mobile devices. Windows went the other way. Obviously Android does a lot of things better when mobile.
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Because Android was built from the ground up on mobile devices. Windows went the other way. Obviously Android does a lot of things better when mobile.
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Games and previously purchased apps would be my best guess. If there ends up being good android emulation (bluestacks) then I would think that there is no reason at all.
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The OP seems dead but thanks for your answers , maybe we will be able to boot-up Key Lime Pie when the times come.
Hmm ... Mine isnt a WinRT tablet as such but i own a ExoPC tablet and it runs both Windows and Android ...
I have tested Windows 8 Enterprise N & ICS 4.0.4 ....
U can find more info here ....
www.exocommunity.com
Regards
Currently you can run Android in a VM successfully on prior Windows editions, I have yet to run it virtually on Windows 8 BUT if you're actually buying an RT Tablet that runs on ARM, I don't suggest you purchase it hoping to run Android.
Good news? Intel is going Mobile and so is the ARM Processor and why is that good? Anyone can make it and not just anyone but Samsung is noted to be making a model FOR Android phones. Why does this matter? It means Google must be up to making Android for ARM and if that is true, I can almost bet that someone will be able to put it on a Windows RT Tablet eventually and that is the keyword, eventually.
So if you have to dual boot right this second? Buy a normal Windows 8 Tablet/Slate, not RT Tablet as they're not as powerful and "Desktop" will NOT be available but if you're not looking for power, stay with an Android Tablet or wait to see what Microsoft will be doing with the Slate.
Or Dual-Boot Android & WindowsRT on Android TABLET? :thumbup:
Time will make it happen.
Maybe run bluestacks in windows 8?
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Maybe run bluestacks in windows 8?
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Like he said Lol. no need for Android, you have the best or Smoothest UI with BLUESTACK player that can run ALL ANDROID APPS so need for the OS itself. Enjoy!!!!!!!!
akbisw said:
Like he said Lol. no need for Android, you have the best or Smoothest UI with BLUESTACK player that can run ALL ANDROID APPS so need for the OS itself. Enjoy!!!!!!!!
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Read up the title dude, its - Windows RT(ARM)
Yeah, W8 will surely run Android apps via Bluestacks.(X86)
But its two OS on Single TABLET.
Remember ASUS's...tab
JB • XD/\PP
VR.gtmini said:
Read up the title dude, its - Windows RT(ARM)
Yeah, W8 will surely run Android apps via Bluestacks.(X86)
But its two OS on Single TABLET.
Remember ASUS's...tab
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Oh, I just thought the possibility if it was rather low (even if it was done, probably not going to be too good), so offered an easier alternative.
I mean there are even android x86 projects, just that they don't work that well and compatibility isn't the best over different hardware.
Only time will tell
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Currently you can run Android in a VM successfully on prior Windows editions, I have yet to run it virtually on Windows 8 BUT if you're actually buying an RT Tablet that runs on ARM, I don't suggest you purchase it hoping to run Android.
Good news? Intel is going Mobile and so is the ARM Processor and why is that good? Anyone can make it and not just anyone but Samsung is noted to be making a model FOR Android phones. Why does this matter? It means Google must be up to making Android for ARM and if that is true, I can almost bet that someone will be able to put it on a Windows RT Tablet eventually and that is the keyword, eventually.
So if you have to dual boot right this second? Buy a normal Windows 8 Tablet/Slate, not RT Tablet as they're not as powerful and "Desktop" will NOT be available but if you're not looking for power, stay with an Android Tablet or wait to see what Microsoft will be doing with the Slate.
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Android has ALWAYS run on ARM chips. Not sure what you're talking about here...
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Android has ALWAYS run on ARM chips. Not sure what you're talking about here...
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correction. Android runs on MIPS, ARM and x86.
ARM is the most popular platform though.
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correction. Android runs on MIPS, ARM and x86.
ARM is the most popular platform though.
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but the assertion that Android has always run on ARM is not incorrect, the first device that Android ran on was ARM.
Hi!
I saw this video http://youtu.be/1WrRngZ4giE . And there is my question: is it possible to boot Android x86 on Dell Venue 8 Pro from pendrive?
thanks!
I tried BlueStacks and Genymotion but performance was poor. It will be great if you provide tutorial how to boot android from pendrive.
You need to get into the bios and disable secure boot. Hold the volume down key while booting.
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xVxMatthewxVx said:
That might help! Didn't know you could boot into BIOS on Windows 8 Tablets.
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its only the clovertrail and ARM ones that have such restrictions. The venue 8 pro is baytrail so has a full PC BIOS.
You might also know thay many have dove into this and find what they get isn't very useful.
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its only the clovertrail and ARM ones that have such restrictions. The venue 8 pro is baytrail so has a full PC BIOS.
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It's not a BIOS as we've known for the past decades of x86 CPUs.
It's an EFI. A 32 Bit EFI to be precise.
Which is unfortounate, because 32 Bit EFI has not been used since the first generation of x86 Apple Macs, IIRC. PCs usually use 64 Bit EFI and there are not many options, that play well with it. IIRC it's only WIndows 8(.1) and OSX 10.something
Hello guys,
here is a Thread in the DELL Support Forum to request a 64bit uefi.
The old 32bit uefi is the problem, if the uefi is switched to 64bit, we could use the Android Rom from https://01.org/android-ia (for bay trail).
More users, more priority on dell side. Please request the update too, and make the thread public!
http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/mobile-devices/f/4586/p/19579720/20644697.aspx
thanks dr4g0n.