This will probably be considered a noob question, and I apologize if this is question is in the wrong place, but is it within reason to dual-boot android on a windows RT tablet? The answer may determine my purchase of a windows tablet when they arrive, because I like both android and windows on tablets.
-Dave
Not possible. Windows RT uses Secure Boot, BitLocker and other security mechanisms so it will be extremely hard to break.
A little question to the OP, why?
TravisAntonio said:
A little question to the OP, why?
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Games and previously purchased apps would be my best guess. If there ends up being good android emulation (bluestacks) then I would think that there is no reason at all.
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TravisAntonio said:
A little question to the OP, why?
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Because Android was built from the ground up on mobile devices. Windows went the other way. Obviously Android does a lot of things better when mobile.
AdamOutler said:
Because Android was built from the ground up on mobile devices. Windows went the other way. Obviously Android does a lot of things better when mobile.
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Games and previously purchased apps would be my best guess. If there ends up being good android emulation (bluestacks) then I would think that there is no reason at all.
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The OP seems dead but thanks for your answers , maybe we will be able to boot-up Key Lime Pie when the times come.
Hmm ... Mine isnt a WinRT tablet as such but i own a ExoPC tablet and it runs both Windows and Android ...
I have tested Windows 8 Enterprise N & ICS 4.0.4 ....
U can find more info here ....
www.exocommunity.com
Regards
Currently you can run Android in a VM successfully on prior Windows editions, I have yet to run it virtually on Windows 8 BUT if you're actually buying an RT Tablet that runs on ARM, I don't suggest you purchase it hoping to run Android.
Good news? Intel is going Mobile and so is the ARM Processor and why is that good? Anyone can make it and not just anyone but Samsung is noted to be making a model FOR Android phones. Why does this matter? It means Google must be up to making Android for ARM and if that is true, I can almost bet that someone will be able to put it on a Windows RT Tablet eventually and that is the keyword, eventually.
So if you have to dual boot right this second? Buy a normal Windows 8 Tablet/Slate, not RT Tablet as they're not as powerful and "Desktop" will NOT be available but if you're not looking for power, stay with an Android Tablet or wait to see what Microsoft will be doing with the Slate.
Or Dual-Boot Android & WindowsRT on Android TABLET? :thumbup:
Time will make it happen.
Maybe run bluestacks in windows 8?
FC1032 said:
Maybe run bluestacks in windows 8?
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Like he said Lol. no need for Android, you have the best or Smoothest UI with BLUESTACK player that can run ALL ANDROID APPS so need for the OS itself. Enjoy!!!!!!!!
akbisw said:
Like he said Lol. no need for Android, you have the best or Smoothest UI with BLUESTACK player that can run ALL ANDROID APPS so need for the OS itself. Enjoy!!!!!!!!
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Read up the title dude, its - Windows RT(ARM)
Yeah, W8 will surely run Android apps via Bluestacks.(X86)
But its two OS on Single TABLET.
Remember ASUS's...tab
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Read up the title dude, its - Windows RT(ARM)
Yeah, W8 will surely run Android apps via Bluestacks.(X86)
But its two OS on Single TABLET.
Remember ASUS's...tab
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Oh, I just thought the possibility if it was rather low (even if it was done, probably not going to be too good), so offered an easier alternative.
I mean there are even android x86 projects, just that they don't work that well and compatibility isn't the best over different hardware.
Only time will tell
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Currently you can run Android in a VM successfully on prior Windows editions, I have yet to run it virtually on Windows 8 BUT if you're actually buying an RT Tablet that runs on ARM, I don't suggest you purchase it hoping to run Android.
Good news? Intel is going Mobile and so is the ARM Processor and why is that good? Anyone can make it and not just anyone but Samsung is noted to be making a model FOR Android phones. Why does this matter? It means Google must be up to making Android for ARM and if that is true, I can almost bet that someone will be able to put it on a Windows RT Tablet eventually and that is the keyword, eventually.
So if you have to dual boot right this second? Buy a normal Windows 8 Tablet/Slate, not RT Tablet as they're not as powerful and "Desktop" will NOT be available but if you're not looking for power, stay with an Android Tablet or wait to see what Microsoft will be doing with the Slate.
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Android has ALWAYS run on ARM chips. Not sure what you're talking about here...
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Android has ALWAYS run on ARM chips. Not sure what you're talking about here...
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correction. Android runs on MIPS, ARM and x86.
ARM is the most popular platform though.
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correction. Android runs on MIPS, ARM and x86.
ARM is the most popular platform though.
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but the assertion that Android has always run on ARM is not incorrect, the first device that Android ran on was ARM.
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Today at Build Microsoft announced that Windows 8 would launch with ARM support. Does this mean someone could potentially port it for the Iconia to be used in those times when a Window based software is needed but neither PC nor VLC is unavailable?
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Today at Build Microsoft announced that Windows 8 would launch with ARM support. Does this mean someone could potentially port it for the Iconia to be used in those times when a Window based software is needed but neither PC nor VLC is unavailable?
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This being a "mature developer website" has a search function and q&a section. Both would lead you to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259742
Anyway, only time will tell if win8 will be ported to the iconia (or any other android tablet). I haven't heard of wp7 being ported to an android phone, so I wouldn't bet on it. Still I can see the potential in it and would gladly try it (especially if it can be made as dual-boot).
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Downloaded and installed the "Developers Preview" of Win 8 last night. Remember this is a pre-beta release, and for certain it's in it's infancy relatively speaking. As of this moment in time, Android has a much smoother interface for touch. Win 8 still feels a bit sticky for lack of a better word. I installed it on my HP Touchsmart TM2 2150 US laptop (core i3 with 8Gb ram), so it's not exactly a slouch in terms of hardware. It's a total touch screen laptop that has a screen that folds down onto the keyboard to create a tablet. As of this moment, Win 7 has a much better touch screen experience, but I fully expect that to change as the builds mature.
There are very few apps that come with it (28 I believe), and no app store as of yet obviously.
I read last night that typical Windows apps will not run on the ARM version of Win 8, and that MS is going to do it's best to prevent side loading of apps on the ARM version to keep people purchasing apps, instead of loading them from a USB stick or SD card, but that is just rumor as of right now.
Long story short, you're not missing much yet.
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only time will tell if win8 will be ported to the iconia
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I appreciate this is in the A500 forum, but the Iconia also comes in a W500 variant which does indeed run Win8:
http://youtu.be/_CNQVk7nok0
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I appreciate this is in the A500 forum, but the Iconia also comes in a W500 variant which does indeed run Win8
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Some of us already have an a500. No need to bring up another piece of hardware. "Yeah your Honda s2000 can fit a Corvette engine, but why not get a Corvette instead"
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I don't think Microsoft will be releasing a beta for ARM chips and we will see Windows 8 run on ARM only during retail. After that XDA will not port Windows 8 simply because it would be considered illegal.
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I appreciate this is in the A500 forum, but the Iconia also comes in a W500 variant which does indeed run Win8:
http://youtu.be/_CNQVk7nok0
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The OP was asking about the ARM version of win8, so I seriously doubt that it is about the w500.
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I installed Windows 8 on my pc a few hours ago. It is very smooth! But my DVD burner doesn't work... Anyway, I would love to see it on the A500.
Here's a preview of Win 8 tablets. Acer's is running an AMD chip instead of a Tegra:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4811/windows-8-tablets-running-on-ti-qualcomm-nvidia-amd-intel-silicon
Windows 8
Windows 8 *might* just support ARM. Everyone on the net is talking about it but no one is really sure. But as for now if you want something similar to Windows 8 there's always WinCE7 :-D Cheers.
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I don't think Microsoft will be releasing a beta for ARM chips and we will see Windows 8 run on ARM only during retail. After that XDA will not port Windows 8 simply because it would be considered illegal.
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Look at HTC HD2, illegal?! I think no retail arm based version. No retail maybe dev can port. Maybe it is hard to port and that is the be ass.
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Windows 8 *might* just support ARM. Everyone on the net is talking about it but no one is really sure. But as for now if you want something similar to Windows 8 there's always WinCE7 :-D Cheers.
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There's no "might" about it. Microsoft confirmed ages ago that there WILL be an ARM version of Windows 8, and recently clarified that it will NOT run native x86 applications. It's conjectured that that .NET applications should run with either minimal changes, or straight off the bat.
It's also been demoed running on Tegra 3 hardware.
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There's no "might" about it. Microsoft confirmed ages ago that there WILL be an ARM version of Windows 8, and recently clarified that it will NOT run native x86 applications. It's conjectured that that .NET applications should run with either minimal changes, or straight off the bat.
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Pure .NET applications should run just fine as long as they're using the same .NET framework as W8 does, but Microsoft is encouraging devs to use HTML5 for anything simple enough. They're aiming for HTML5 support to be top-notch and W8 and to be all-encompassing.
And yes, I concur with FloatingFatMan: why do people even think an ARM W8 would be able to run x86 binaries? That's just plain stupid. ARM applications will run on ARM W8, x86 applications will run on x86 W8, that's that.
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Pure .NET applications should run just fine as long as they're using the same .NET framework as W8 does, but Microsoft is encouraging devs to use HTML5 for anything simple enough. They're aiming for HTML5 support to be top-notch and W8 and to be all-encompassing.
And yes, I concur with FloatingFatMan: why do people even think an ARM W8 would be able to run x86 binaries? That's just plain stupid. ARM applications will run on ARM W8, x86 applications will run on x86 W8, that's that.
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There was some rumour that Ms would my providing some transcoding layers as part of the ARM kernel, much like Apple did with the first x86 versions of OSX, but that would be horrendously slow and open the ARM platform to x86 malware.
Pure .NET apps SHOULD run fine, unless MS ship the compact framework instead of the full one. As for HTML5... URGH! (I'm a C# programmer, and after being shafted by MS over first WPF and now Silverlight, they can blow HTML5 out their asses! )
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There was some rumour that Ms would my providing some transcoding layers as part of the ARM kernel
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I know there was such a rumour, but anyone with half a braincell should've realized that it was just wishful thinking from people who don't know what they're talking about.
ARM devices are first and foremost mobile devices so an emulation layer would eat horribly on the battery. Not to mention that I am not aware of a single ARM processor sporting any kind of hardware virtualization features or transcoding mechanisms, so the performance would be really poor, too.
And if Microsoft did make such an emulation layer it would be Microsoft that would get all the blame for horribly low battery-life and poor performance because people wouldn't understand the underlying problem. Microsoft saves themselves a lot bad PR just by avoiding the whole thing altogether.
Pure .NET apps SHOULD run fine, unless MS ship the compact framework instead of the full one. As for HTML5... URGH! (I'm a C# programmer, and after being shafted by MS over first WPF and now Silverlight, they can blow HTML5 out their asses! )
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They're already churning lawyers at full speed from their arses, there's no more capacity for HTML5 there, too.
Now wouldn't that be the ****
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Iconia W500.
What's next for the ultimate HD2
Wouldn't that be something if windows ran on the iconic HD2 that i just sold for my sensation LOL. I'll never unestimate the power of that device
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Wouldn't that be something if windows ran on the iconic HD2 that i just sold for my sensation LOL. I'll never unestimate the power of that device
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Truthfully, I think that might be the first thing that the devs can't pull off... The again, Windows 8 will have ARM support (read: no legacy apps, where 99.9% of windows x86/64 bit).... so we'll wait and See.
Dont get your hopes up, its closed source.
most likely, it's not happin'n
I tend to agree that it won't happen, people will try, they might make progress but it seems unlikely.
I think I'd rather just wait for official Windows 8 tablet hardware. They'll no doubt be superior (since most will run Tegra 3 if not 4), and who knows what they'll do with the digitizers. I'm hopeful that we'll get a Wacom digitizer that handles both capacitive touch and resistive with extensive pressure sensitivity for use in digital illustration. Time will tell.
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I think I'd rather just wait for official Windows 8 tablet hardware. They'll no doubt be superior (since most will run Tegra 3 if not 4), and who knows what they'll do with the digitizers. I'm hopeful that we'll get a Wacom digitizer that handles both capacitive touch and resistive with extensive pressure sensitivity for use in digital illustration. Time will tell.
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Yeah but how about W8 running on a 100$ piece of hardware? I mean how inexpensive can you get?
Why do people worry so much about Windows ARM version not running legacy apps?? New apps will be created for Windows 8 that integrate with Metro, I'm pretty sure that all respectable software companies and even independent developers are starting to plan and make ARM based apps for Windows 8. Windows 8 will be powerful, and software companies need to start developing the next generation of applications eventually.
ARM is the future, x86 is done and I refuse to buy an Intel tablet or next gen AMD all-in-one. And please don't tell me you want to open your excel spreadsheet on your tablet on your way home on the train, on, cause it's not 'cool'. /vent
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Why do people worry so much about Windows ARM version not running legacy apps?? New apps will be created for Windows 8 that integrate with Metro, I'm pretty sure that all respectable software companies and even independent developers are starting to plan and make ARM based apps for Windows 8. Windows 8 will be powerful, and software companies need to start developing the next generation of applications eventually.
ARM is the future, x86 is done and I refuse to buy an Intel tablet or next gen AMD all-in-one. And please don't tell me you want to open your excel spreadsheet on your tablet on your way home on the train, on, cause it's not 'cool'. /vent
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Don't you know the difference between Legacy apps and New apps?
and for your information, ARM may or may not be the future. Only time will tell.
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ARM is the future, x86 is done and I refuse to buy an Intel tablet or next gen AMD all-in-one. And please don't tell me you want to open your excel spreadsheet on your tablet on your way home on the train, on, cause it's not 'cool'. /vent
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Please... x86 isn't going anywhere for a long time.
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jasongw said:
I think I'd rather just wait for official Windows 8 tablet hardware. They'll no doubt be superior (since most will run Tegra 3 if not 4), and who knows what they'll do with the digitizers. I'm hopeful that we'll get a Wacom digitizer that handles both capacitive touch and resistive with extensive pressure sensitivity for use in digital illustration. Time will tell.
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Win 8 doesn't have support for Tegra yet.
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Win 8 doesn't have support for Tegra yet.
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yet. it will get arm support and then some. windows 8 looks more mature than android 3.0 and i love android.
i am using WP7 on my HD2 and it is kinda growing on me. Looks like microsoft is finally doing something right
I Can't wait till the ARM version leaks, or will it ever since it's not going to be sold as a standalone?
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yet. it will get arm support and then some. windows 8 looks more mature than android 3.0 and i love android.
i am using WP7 on my HD2 and it is kinda growing on me. Looks like microsoft is finally doing something right
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Mikey$oft doing something right?
Well I had faith in them when I got my HD7 running WP7 and installed Windows 7 for the first time.... Basically they had me from the 'Start'
But to be honest I'm using Windows 8 now and I can't explain it but it just 'feels' different, kinda like my cell phone and PC had a baby.
Well I know that the hp touchpad wont be able to run it. A developer said it would be impossible.
I really dont think microsoft will allow you to load win 8 tablet on any tablet, im sure there going to try and control everything
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Mikey$oft doing something right?
Well I had faith in them when I got my HD7 running WP7 and installed Windows 7 for the first time.... Basically they had me from the 'Start'
But to be honest I'm using Windows 8 now and I can't explain it but it just 'feels' different, kinda like my cell phone and PC had a baby.
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Please tell me how you flashed win 7 i am noob here
Well, would you look at that!
HP Testing Windows 8 on TouchPads
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/10/24/hp-testing-windows-8-on-touchpads
bigboy292000 said:
Well, would you look at that!
HP Testing Windows 8 on TouchPads
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/10/24/hp-testing-windows-8-on-touchpads
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Saw that earlier today as well... hoping that gets leaked too.
Windows 8 on the Touchpad would be great.
Has anyone heard of a win8 arm beta program?
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This thread is not the focal point for all discussions relating to running Win7, Win8 or WinAnything on the Tab 10.1.
It has been formed by merging some of the largest and oldest Windows-on-Tab threads into one.
Windows 7 or Windows 8 on Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1?
Hello
Is it possible to install Windows 7 or Windows 8 on a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1?
Thank you in advance.
Windows 7 doesn't work on the processor inside the tab. Windows 8 will but that version hasn't been released. Only the intel version has.
Would love Windows 8 on my tab.
Watch this space, I guess...
S galaxy 10.1 and win 8 possible?
I have heard that windows 8 is gonna support the intel chip in the samsung galaxy tablet 10.1. will it be possible to install this OS on this tablet someday..
Jesper.
jesdaking said:
I have heard that windows 8 is gonna support the intel chip in the samsung galaxy tablet 10.1. will it be possible to install this OS on this tablet someday..
Jesper.
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For starters....it isn't an Intel chip in the 10.1. Its the NVIDIA Tegra 2.
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Nvidia is Intel....
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Hmm sorry but i am not sure if its intel! .. but the main thing is will it be possible to install windows 8. it would be fantastic.. i think its a ARM-based chipset but heard that it shuld be similar to the Tegra 2..
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Nvidia is Intel....
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Umm.... What?!
mullemulle86 said:
Nvidia is Intel....
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Errr... nVidia is most certainly NOT Intel!
No back to the thread - why on earth would you want to put Windows, aka bloatware, on an Android Tab?
steve664npc said:
Errr... nVidia is most certainly NOT Intel!
No back to the thread - why on earth would you want to put Windows, aka bloatware, on an Android Tab?
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And i ask why not??
Why the hell do someone want to put android on a iphone! and some one did!
I think it would be cool.. but i dont think you are not a windows fan.. lol!
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And i ask why not??
Why the hell do someone want to put android on a iphone! and some one did!
I think it would be cool.. but i dont think you are not a windows fan.. lol!
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I wouldnt want windows 8 on my tablet...but I can see why some people might be interested.
nvidia is not intel though. they may licence some technologies from each other, but they aren't one and the same. If they were. then why would intel be bothering with the medfield chips?
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Nvidia is Intel....
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Errr... nVidia is most certainly NOT Intel!
No back to the thread - why on earth would you want to put Windows, aka bloatware, on an Android Tab?
But you haven't answered the question? I asked why on earth would you want to put Windows 8 on an android tablet?
It seems silly to me that's all - but that's just my opinion
If dual boot was possible why would u not want to put win 8 or any other OS on it? I thought that was the point of being "open" why do so many touchpad users want android???
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Errr... nVidia is most certainly NOT Intel!
No back to the thread - why on earth would you want to put Windows, aka bloatware, on an Android Tab?
But you haven't answered the question? I asked why on earth would you want to put Windows 8 on an android tablet?
It seems silly to me that's all - but that's just my opinion
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Actually windows8 might surprise you. it is not bloatware as in previous windows
Nvidia uses arm architecture intel uses x86. Windows 8 is being designed to support lean hardware like ARM based SoC. It will supports 2 modes - traditional windows called desktop mode and touch based called metro. Its tile based metro UI is more elegant than android and shoul work with both x86 and arm devices. X86 will habe an edge as it will work woth traditional windows as well as Metro while arm can only work with metro assuming they fix all the headaches related to arm
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steve664npc said:
Errr... nVidia is most certainly NOT Intel!
No back to the thread - why on earth would you want to put Windows, aka bloatware, on an Android Tab?
But you haven't answered the question? I asked why on earth would you want to put Windows 8 on an android tablet?
It seems silly to me that's all - but that's just my opinion
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Why should i answer that question.. The only thing you are saying is that windows 8 is silly.. ????? And the Answer is that i dont think so.. lol. I just like to try everything to have a oppionon. Im not a FANBOY! that just try one thing only.
and you are calling it android tablet why? its a samsung galaxy tablet 10.1 and i like to call it windows tablet soon. hehe
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Why should i answer that question.. The only thing you are saying is that windows 8 is silly.. ????? And the Answer is that i dont think so.. lol. I just like to try everything to have a oppionon. Im not a FANBOY! that just try one thing only.
and you are calling it android tablet why? its a samsung galaxy tablet 10.1 and i like to call it windows tablet soon. hehe
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Me too! This is a Samsung tab that runs Android. Not an Android tab made by Samsung! If dual boot is possible I want it!
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Well sorry to blow out your dreams but Windows 8 ARM wont isnt coming 'til 2013 and it WONT be available as OEM or retail disc in any way.
It will be embedded into the slabs, just like Android.
But since it is NOT open source, you just will NOT be able to add it afterwords.
THERE WILL BE NO WINDOWS ON THE GTAB 10.1. EVER.
Dual-Booting a Windows 8 ARM tablet with Android might be possible, but not the opposite.
That being said; just wait to see the price of the Windows-based slabs; itll be a good 200$ over the comparable Android-based slab.
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Well sorry to blow out your dreams but Windows 8 ARM wont isnt coming 'til 2013 and it WONT be available as OEM or retail disc in any way.
It will be embedded into the slabs, just like Android.
But since it is NOT open source, you just will NOT be able to add it afterwords.
THERE WILL BE NO WINDOWS ON THE GTAB 10.1. EVER.
Dual-Booting a Windows 8 ARM tablet with Android might be possible, but not the opposite.
That being said; just wait to see the price of the Windows-based slabs; itll be a good 200$ over the comparable Android-based slab.
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Unfortunately, I agree with everything here, except the word "ever." I think there will be folks rocking the GT10 when Win8 gets leaked and built, but by then this will be a "legacy device." I'm really looking forward to having a windows 8 tablet, but it won't be the galaxy tab 10.1
yep microsoft UEFI Secure Boot technology might make it near impossible to dual boot win 8 and android ON devices built for windows8 - but i have faith in the dev community to port Win 8 onto android first devices- not that i would use it anyway
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Well sorry to blow out your dreams but Windows 8 ARM wont isnt coming 'til 2013 and it WONT be available as OEM or retail disc in any way.
It will be embedded into the slabs, just like Android.
But since it is NOT open source, you just will NOT be able to add it afterwords.
THERE WILL BE NO WINDOWS ON THE GTAB 10.1. EVER.
Dual-Booting a Windows 8 ARM tablet with Android might be possible, but not the opposite.
That being said; just wait to see the price of the Windows-based slabs; itll be a good 200$ over the comparable Android-based slab.
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Crap totally foregot about microsoft UEFI Secure Boot technology!
but when the windows 8 tablet are out..
i just buy a windows tablet ;-). And sell my lovely SG tab 1.10. but ICS is gonna be great to!
Would it be possible to use windows 8 on our android phone like we made ubuntu work? or even make it a custom rom??
With ubuntu we pretty much just mount the .img and connect to it with vnc right? couldnt we do the same with the dev. preveiw of windows 8?
Certainly hope so. There is always virtual machines.
Or you can install teamviewer like some dumb people pretent to use windows on iPad and iPhone
This would be fun to mess around with if this could be done.
Well, once/if the ARM version gets publicly released, then it should in theory be possible.
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Well, once/if the ARM version gets publicly released, then it should in theory be possible.
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I doubt it, android uses a totaly diffrent bootloader structure and partition layout to windows based phones, it also uses a diffrent file system, i wouldnt like to brick my nand chip by trying to format it in fat/ntfs
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I doubt it, android uses a totaly diffrent bootloader structure and partition layout to windows based phones, it also uses a diffrent file system, i wouldnt like to brick my nand chip by trying to format it in fat/ntfs
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i think so, win 8 is so complicate to install it on an android phone
unless something very unexpected happens, it will be impossible.
read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21264932#post21264932
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unless something very unexpected happens, it will be impossible.
read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21264932#post21264932
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trh1341 said:
Would it be possible to use windows 8 on our android phone like we made ubuntu work? or even make it a custom rom??
With ubuntu we pretty much just mount the .img and connect to it with vnc right? couldnt we do the same with the dev. preveiw of windows 8?
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From my perspective,android is still linux but a simplified mobile version..i guess that is why it was possible to port ubuntu to work on it.
As regards windows 8 ,i really think it is impossible due to the hardware specs nd libraries.
Windows 8 hardware specs have been released today and Engadget reported
Controversially, ARM-based tablet users won't be able to deactivate secure booting and (therefore) install another operating system. Clearly that's not gone down well with people -- and a straw poll of our editors agreed
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Source
I don't know what effect that'll have on installing Win8 on an Android tablet but it sounds discouraging.
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Windows 8 hardware specs have been released today and Engadget reported
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I don't know what effect that'll have on installing Win8 on an Android tablet but it sounds discouraging.
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pretty much that loading android (or anything else) onto a W8ARM tablet will be near impossible
Zibams said:
From my perspective,android is still linux but a simplified mobile version..i guess that is why it was possible to port ubuntu to work on it.
As regards windows 8 ,i really think it is impossible due to the hardware specs nd libraries.
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i think like you.. android is linux.. remember that
Might be possible after win 8 starts supporting ARM.
Meanwhile have you guys seen windows 7 embedded compact which already supports ARM...is that a possibility on Android phones?!!
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is it
is it happening
it seems to be impossible , coz maybe it needs to rewrite all base drivers, and i wonder if the hardware supports it.
hopeless....i think.
739898013 said:
it seems to be impossible , coz maybe it needs to rewrite all base drivers, and i wonder if the hardware supports it.
hopeless....i think.
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Tegra3 android is one platform already used for windows8 beta arm , which was seen on ces. so its possible, but sure all drivers needs to be made or compiled for arm cpu.
and it is said that bootloader will contain encrypted keys to boot windows somehow, i do not know the complete story here, probably a BIOS edition like on regular pc's.
hopeless, not at all. just look at iMac when it started on x86, we had their OS on non-mac's and their hardware was dualbooting win7/MacOS.
it will be just a matter of time, until someone do that, if you can run windows 95/98 and XP on HTC EVO 3D why not Windows 8?
joao12ferreira said:
it will be just a matter of time, until someone do that, if you can run windows 95/98 and XP on HTC EVO 3D why not Windows 8?
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i doubt thats possible without drivers and an arm compiled windows.
you have probably seen a remotedesktop like SplashTop for android shown.
OS Run
joao12ferreira said:
it will be just a matter of time, until someone do that, if you can run windows 95/98 and XP on HTC EVO 3D why not Windows 8?
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As far as i know all this OS are running on virtual machine, so... it's laggy, it works only with standart drivers, so there is no any hardware acceleration. I think some people will keep trying to port Win8, but as other says, it can be very hard, mb cotulla can, he know Win7 embedded core, so it can be like Win8 core. And another one peace - as i know Win8 for tablets and PCs will be same, but WP8 will have another core part.
The specs seem ok but does anyone have any plans to dual boot windows 8 on this mini beast?
Possible, yes
Legal, no
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trooperbill said:
The specs seem ok but does anyone have any plans to dual boot windows 8 on this mini beast?
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Maybe but why would you want to put that crappy OS on it?
i would like Ubuntu, not some m$ s*it
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Possible, yes
Legal, no
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Unlikely, as win8rt will only come as builds dedicated to a specific device (with that device) and the win8rt bootloader requires a secureboot-enabled EFI bios with _only_ the MS keys embedded. (E.G. how often did windows CE get hacked onto a device that never had it)
_If_ we see win8rt on other T3 Kai platforms, that end up exploitable _and_ people are able to hack out the EFI secure bootloader stuff, then _maybe you'll see a ropey build do the rounds, but I wouldn't count on it
No and why would be the answer.
Windows 8 won't run windows apps and it's a step back to the dark ages in UI design.
Microsoft have also locked have ensured that windows 8 will only boot on approved hardware with signed EFI certs. This also means that a windows 8 ARM tablet won't boot anything else either.
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Windows 8 RT sucks anyway, even if it was ported most people wouldn't care because it's RT and Arm based so it's not like your installing diablo 3.
now if someone releases an intel x86 android tablet, thats another story.
Still, can't wait for Microsoft Surface Pro, that thing looks amazing.
As everyone has said, It is not possible. Even if someone got the EFI to pass, windows RT was not designed for tegra devices.
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Yea. But can it run Crysis? :laugh:
calvin4001 said:
As everyone has said, It is not possible. Even if someone got the EFI to pass, windows RT was not designed for tegra devices.
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The RT model uses tegra 3.
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Any Nexus forced to run Windows would die of shame... Might as well ask if it would run Ios6.
This has troll written all over it. Shame on you OP..lol.
sorry... (hangs head in shame)
Don't be ashamed. This is a very legitimate question.
Windows 8 finally brings a true mobile windows. And it would be awesome if the nexus could dual boot into it.
Now Windows 8 RT kinda sucks ass since outside of office your just running windows phone apps basically though i'm sure that'll change eventually.
Plus, windows 8 is not really meant for a 7" screen, more like 10" minimum right now.
but as it's been said, it'll probably never happen due to many different reasons.
my advice, save up for a surface pro thats coming out in december/january
trooperbill said:
sorry... (hangs head in shame)
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Nah man I was fukn wit ya.lol Your cool..:laugh: