With windows 8 now supposting ARM processors I was wondering if it would be possible to somehow flash the os onto the Iconia A500?
assassin82492 said:
With windows 8 now supposting ARM processors I was wondering if it would be possible to somehow flash the os onto the Iconia A500?
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When they release the ARM version, hopefully someone here will figure out a way to get it onto our tabs. Since the ARM version will run on everything from cellphones to tablets, I'm pretty sure the A500 will have the hardware to run it. Since the only version of Win8 out is the X86 / X64 developers release version, we will have to wait for the ARM version to see for certain.
I can't imagine that the A500 will not have the capabilities to run win8, whether or not someone will port it over to our tabs is another story altogether.
Well then I cant wait for the ARM version. I have been running the x64 version on my laptop and I havta say its really nice. I really would like to dual boot it on my A500 with android. it just feels like it would be perfect for it.
assassin82492 said:
With windows 8 now supposting ARM processors I was wondering if it would be possible to somehow flash the os onto the Iconia A500?
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If it does, it will big blow on the Android, because many of people will move to the W8.
I guess Android 4 is will come quicker than W8 for Iconia devices.
assassin82492 said:
Well then I cant wait for the ARM version. I have been running the x64 version on my laptop and I havta say its really nice. I really would like to dual boot it on my A500 with android. it just feels like it would be perfect for it.
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The "Developers Release" of Win 8 sux as far as the touch screen experience goes compared to Win 7 as of this time. Not sure if you're using it on touchscteen or not. Win 8 is far from release, but if we only believe half the hype, it should not only bring all the platforms together (which is Microsoft's intent), but should be pretty amazing (again, once it's finished).
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Since the A500 has been rooted, is it possible to install other os such as windows 7 like w500 or wp7?
spatialrend said:
Since the A500 has been rooted, is it possible to install other os such as windows 7 like w500 or wp7?
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1st, win7 not gonna happen, ever, as it has no arm supprt (win8 maybe possible)
everything else is anyones guess..
i use xendesktop to login to my virtual windows 7 PC. You can use rdp but its slow and laggy.
spatialrend said:
Since the A500 has been rooted, is it possible to install other os such as windows 7 like w500 or wp7?
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Sure.
Get a W500.
spatialrend said:
Since the A500 has been rooted, is it possible to install other os such as windows 7 like w500 or wp7?
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No. Windows 7 is currently x86/x64 only (Intel, AMD, Via). The A500 runs Tegra 2 which is an ARM processor.
I don't know about WP7 - It SHOULD be possible. Of course WP7 isn't at all designed for tablets afaik.
Hm its more of like a "look my tablet can do this!" kind of thing lol. Well the iconia only just came out, im sure it and all other honeycomb devices have a very bright future ahead of them =)
spatialrend said:
Hm its more of like a "look my tablet can do this!" kind of thing lol. Well the iconia only just came out, im sure it and all other honeycomb devices have a very bright future ahead of them =)
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Oh believe me they do. Windows 8 is coming next year (hopefully) and it will be installable to ARM equipped devices. This insinuates that by some time next year, we'll have a bigger choice on what to install on these tablets...and the fact that Windows 8 will be geared for ARM, the install will probably be easier than not.
and now...after coming windows 8 i like to install it on my eee pad transformer....
i know it's not available right now....but my Q is that...
will i be able to install windows 8 on my eee pad transformer or not????
Technically you can because the Tegra chip runs on the ARM architecture and Windows 8 will be supported on ARM but the effort required to do this would be immense as new drivers need to be created and finding a way of installing it onto the system needs to be found.
I just worry about the rom size. If win8 arm version is stronger than wp7, maybe the system size will be bigger. Another question is the bootloader. I think we perhaps see the wp7 ported on pad first, then it is possible to see eight. Win8 is more to do than wp7. I think wp7 and win8 are brothers. MS said no wp7 on pad. But is doesn＇t mean wp7 can＇t. And wp7 pad version maybe is win8 arm. You can find win8 arm version is still a mistery. Just a little pictures and no video. PC version must different with arm version. That is why no more news. So just wait for the devs to port wp7 first. But until now no tegra wp7 phone released.
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liu2002 said:
I just worry about the rom size. If win8 arm version is stronger than wp7, maybe the system size will be bigger. Another question is the bootloader. I think we perhaps see the wp7 ported on pad first, then it is possible to see eight. Win8 is more to do than wp7. I think wp7 and win8 are brothers. MS said no wp7 on pad. But is doesn＇t mean wp7 can＇t. And wp7 pad version maybe is win8 arm. You can find win8 arm version is still a mistery. Just a little pictures and no video. PC version must different with arm version. That is why no more news. So just wait for the devs to port wp7 first. But until now no tegra wp7 phone released.
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Win7 is for x86 architectures
Win 8 for x86 and ARM
So the only one which could work on the transformer is win8
elmonch said:
Win7 is for x86 architectures
Win 8 for x86 and ARM
So the only one which could work on the transformer is win8
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He's talking about WP7, windows phone 7, or MS's ARM-based cell-phone OS.
First of all, if there's already a thread about this, sorry I didn't see it but I searched.
My question is will there be a way to dual boot Windows 8 and ICS (or whatever Android we have during Win 8 tablet releases)? I've seen all the dual boot tablets introduced at Computex and INSTANTLY fell in love with the idea of having both the OS'es at my fingertips, but at the same time I know the official solutions will be unnecessarily expensive.
I was wondering if it's theoretically possible to buy a dedicated Windows 8 tablet, not the RT version, and eventually mod it to run Android. This will make my fall purchase of a tablet so much easier.
Not possible if the tablet has windows 8 ARM installed
If a tablet comes with Windows 8 ARM Preinstalled, you basically can't dual boot ICS on it. Why? Because Windows 8 for ARM requires the tablet manufacturer to enable secure boot on those devices. Thus, enabling secure boot won't let you dual boot Win8 and Android on it. Microsoft is very clever, they do really start to block linux and lock the tablets to Windows 8 ARM only.
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If a tablet comes with Windows 8 ARM Preinstalled, you basically can't dual boot ICS on it. Why? Because Windows 8 for ARM requires the tablet manufacturer to enable secure boot on those devices. Thus, enabling secure boot won't let you dual boot Win8 and Android on it. Microsoft is very clever, they do really start to block linux and lock the tablets to Windows 8 ARM only.
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Yea I know you can't do it with the ARM tablets, that's the windows rt version. I was asking towards the other regular Windows 8 tablets. Can you dual boot ICS on those?
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Yea I know you can't do it with the ARM tablets, that's the windows rt version. I was asking towards the other regular Windows 8 tablets. Can you dual boot ICS on those?
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Ohh... If a tablet comes with an Intel or AMD processor inside and not ARM, then this will be possible. You can dualboot Win8 and ICS on it
mrchezco1995 said:
Ohh... If a tablet comes with an Intel or AMD processor inside and not ARM, then this will be possible. You can dualboot Win8 and ICS on it
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Cool, is this already being done? Can you link if possible? I tried searching but couldn't find anything. This just made my tablet shopping a lot easier for the fall.
Android is Open Source and Windows 8 is commercial so.............
iiDeadSeriousii said:
Cool, is this already being done? Can you link if possible? I tried searching but couldn't find anything. This just made my tablet shopping a lot easier for the fall.
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Yes, you can run Android on x86, but many of the native apps won't work as they're made for arm processors. Take a look here: http://www.android-x86.org/
intel is putting its medfield CPUs, which are x86 atom-based SoCs, into android smartphones right now. Expect to see the same chips in W8 tablets. with that said, it should be fairly likely to see a dualbooting tablet.
also, i'd like to point you towards the Asus Tranformer AiO, shown off at Computex.
iiDeadSeriousii said:
Cool, is this already being done? Can you link if possible? I tried searching but couldn't find anything. This just made my tablet shopping a lot easier for the fall.
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It's already been done on some PCs, Laptops, and including a windows tablet. Check it out here
Take note that this is only Android-x86. A ported version of android for x86 devices
You can find the Android-x86 project here
Here's what a tablet with Windows 8 RT inside http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR5Xh_1U35s
Would it be possible to run x86 windows 8 on the new medfield phones like the Orange San Diego and the Lava Xolo?
It would be interesting to run the metro ui on the smartphone itself but it will get better if you just hook up your phone to a monitor/laptop dock and enjoy a windows desktop experience (like the motorola atrix and this).
I have always been a fan of the OQO UMPC and this would be the modern version of that.
thank you
I have dual boot on a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (which has a x86 Intel processor) with Windows 8 Release Preview and Android ICS.
First I installed Win8 using a boot stick which you can create using this tool and the cd image you downloaded. Then I shrinked the size of the Windows partition to free up some space for Android.
Then I used the latest Atom image from Android x86 to install Android from another boot stick using this tool.
When installing Android don't forget to install GRUB boot loader.
Once you done that you can choose which OS to boot every time you start the device. Unfortunately it doesn't work using touch. You have to have a USB keyboard attached to choose the entry that is not default (in this case Windows 8).
cypher49 said:
Would it be possible to run x86 windows 8 on the new medfield phones like the Orange San Diego and the Lava Xolo?
It would be interesting to run the metro ui on the smartphone itself but it will get better if you just hook up your phone to a monitor/laptop dock and enjoy a windows desktop experience (like the motorola atrix and this).
I have always been a fan of the OQO UMPC and this would be the modern version of that.
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I think running Win8 on a Phone with a x86 cpu like the medfield atoms from intel is possible, but you can't run metro apps on the phone's screen itself because the phone only has a resolution of 1024x600. Metro apps requires 1024x768 in order to run and in order to use "snap", a resolution of 1366x768 is required. So I think you need to hook up a mouse and a keyboard on the phone in order to enjoy the new metro feature of Windows 8 on a phone hooked up to your HDTV
Memphizzz said:
I have dual boot on a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (which has a x86 Intel processor) with Windows 8 Release Preview and Android ICS.
First I installed Win8 using a boot stick which you can create using this tool and the cd image you downloaded. Then I shrinked the size of the Windows partition to free up some space for Android.
Then I used the latest Atom image from Android x86 to install Android from another boot stick using this tool.
When installing Android don't forget to install GRUB boot loader.
Once you done that you can choose which OS to boot every time you start the device. Unfortunately it doesn't work using touch. You have to have a USB keyboard attached to choose the entry that is not default (in this case Windows 8).
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Uhh no. Galaxy Tab 10.1s use the ARM nVidia Tegra 2 SOC and are pre loaded with android honeycomb unless you have a unique version that no one else in the world does and no one has heard about.
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Memphizzz said:
I have dual boot on a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (which has a x86 Intel processor) with Windows 8 Release Preview and Android ICS.
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Hey there's no Galaxy Tab with a x86 processor (Intel or AMD). If there's a samsung tab with a x86 cpu on it, then it's not on the galaxy series.
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Sorry I meant Samsung Slate 7 tablet which has a Core i5 processor...
Anyway, the method above should work with any device running an Intel processor.
@OP, Seeing as Asus has a Transformer AiO that does exactly what you said, then yes its possible
Memphizzz said:
Sorry I meant Samsung Slate 7 tablet which has a Core i5 processor...
Anyway, the method above should work with any device running an Intel processor.
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Ohh... So that's why. Hehe. Anyone makes mistakes right? Hehe. Don't worry
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Memphizzz said:
Sorry I meant Samsung Slate 7 tablet which has a Core i5 processor...
Anyway, the method above should work with any device running an Intel processor.
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Ah OK. Sorry if I came off as an ass about it.
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i'm running windows8 and ICS with dual boot on ExoPC tablet xD
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This will probably be considered a noob question, and I apologize if this is question is in the wrong place, but is it within reason to dual-boot android on a windows RT tablet? The answer may determine my purchase of a windows tablet when they arrive, because I like both android and windows on tablets.
-Dave
Not possible. Windows RT uses Secure Boot, BitLocker and other security mechanisms so it will be extremely hard to break.
A little question to the OP, why?
TravisAntonio said:
A little question to the OP, why?
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Games and previously purchased apps would be my best guess. If there ends up being good android emulation (bluestacks) then I would think that there is no reason at all.
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TravisAntonio said:
A little question to the OP, why?
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Because Android was built from the ground up on mobile devices. Windows went the other way. Obviously Android does a lot of things better when mobile.
AdamOutler said:
Because Android was built from the ground up on mobile devices. Windows went the other way. Obviously Android does a lot of things better when mobile.
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jiffy1080 said:
Games and previously purchased apps would be my best guess. If there ends up being good android emulation (bluestacks) then I would think that there is no reason at all.
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The OP seems dead but thanks for your answers , maybe we will be able to boot-up Key Lime Pie when the times come.
Hmm ... Mine isnt a WinRT tablet as such but i own a ExoPC tablet and it runs both Windows and Android ...
I have tested Windows 8 Enterprise N & ICS 4.0.4 ....
U can find more info here ....
www.exocommunity.com
Regards
Currently you can run Android in a VM successfully on prior Windows editions, I have yet to run it virtually on Windows 8 BUT if you're actually buying an RT Tablet that runs on ARM, I don't suggest you purchase it hoping to run Android.
Good news? Intel is going Mobile and so is the ARM Processor and why is that good? Anyone can make it and not just anyone but Samsung is noted to be making a model FOR Android phones. Why does this matter? It means Google must be up to making Android for ARM and if that is true, I can almost bet that someone will be able to put it on a Windows RT Tablet eventually and that is the keyword, eventually.
So if you have to dual boot right this second? Buy a normal Windows 8 Tablet/Slate, not RT Tablet as they're not as powerful and "Desktop" will NOT be available but if you're not looking for power, stay with an Android Tablet or wait to see what Microsoft will be doing with the Slate.
Or Dual-Boot Android & WindowsRT on Android TABLET? :thumbup:
Time will make it happen.
Maybe run bluestacks in windows 8?
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Maybe run bluestacks in windows 8?
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Like he said Lol. no need for Android, you have the best or Smoothest UI with BLUESTACK player that can run ALL ANDROID APPS so need for the OS itself. Enjoy!!!!!!!!
akbisw said:
Like he said Lol. no need for Android, you have the best or Smoothest UI with BLUESTACK player that can run ALL ANDROID APPS so need for the OS itself. Enjoy!!!!!!!!
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Read up the title dude, its - Windows RT(ARM)
Yeah, W8 will surely run Android apps via Bluestacks.(X86)
But its two OS on Single TABLET.
Remember ASUS's...tab
JB • XD/\PP
VR.gtmini said:
Read up the title dude, its - Windows RT(ARM)
Yeah, W8 will surely run Android apps via Bluestacks.(X86)
But its two OS on Single TABLET.
Remember ASUS's...tab
JB • XD/\PP
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Oh, I just thought the possibility if it was rather low (even if it was done, probably not going to be too good), so offered an easier alternative.
I mean there are even android x86 projects, just that they don't work that well and compatibility isn't the best over different hardware.
Only time will tell
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lseidman said:
Currently you can run Android in a VM successfully on prior Windows editions, I have yet to run it virtually on Windows 8 BUT if you're actually buying an RT Tablet that runs on ARM, I don't suggest you purchase it hoping to run Android.
Good news? Intel is going Mobile and so is the ARM Processor and why is that good? Anyone can make it and not just anyone but Samsung is noted to be making a model FOR Android phones. Why does this matter? It means Google must be up to making Android for ARM and if that is true, I can almost bet that someone will be able to put it on a Windows RT Tablet eventually and that is the keyword, eventually.
So if you have to dual boot right this second? Buy a normal Windows 8 Tablet/Slate, not RT Tablet as they're not as powerful and "Desktop" will NOT be available but if you're not looking for power, stay with an Android Tablet or wait to see what Microsoft will be doing with the Slate.
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Android has ALWAYS run on ARM chips. Not sure what you're talking about here...
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Android has ALWAYS run on ARM chips. Not sure what you're talking about here...
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correction. Android runs on MIPS, ARM and x86.
ARM is the most popular platform though.
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correction. Android runs on MIPS, ARM and x86.
ARM is the most popular platform though.
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but the assertion that Android has always run on ARM is not incorrect, the first device that Android ran on was ARM.
Maybe it will soon be possible to run android and windows nt nativly at the same time on the SGT!
how? - ReactOS:
http://www.reactos.org/ (if you are going to test it in a virtual machine dont' use the 0.3.14 version of os, use the trunk build version its much much much better)
ReactOS is an open source windows clone and most of the windows applications work on it ! (MS office, opera, ff, ...) the good news is there is an ARM port of ReactOS - Windows RT equivalent:
http://www.reactos.org/wiki/ARM_Port
ReactOS still has problems to work on real hardware because of many different components but on some PC it works very well (it can be targeted to SGT fix the bugs)
The ARM port is able to run on the SGT but there is still a lot of work to do.
Windows will soon release a Office ARM version for winRT and in order to run any windows application on the SGT a recompile is needed.
and about android there is already a port of android that runs native on windowsne emulation no virtual machine !!)
http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/13/...tm_medium=feed
If anyone has any coding skills it would be nice to try to port reactos to the SGT or just to donate to the project with the subject "arm port for SGT"
This runs pretty well even at alpha stage, I tested it in virtualbox in my laptop, and I'll test it on emulator in my SGT soon... they've planned to bring it up to windows 8... hope that everyone interested here will help the fundraising...
I posted this just to keep this thread up, so don't blame me for not saying anything useful...
I think(theory) that it will run very smoothly on SGT, because it only uses 6mb of graphic memory, I tested it with 256mb RAM and 500mb HDD, and it was better than my expectations!
I really recommend all to try it...:good:
While I applause the developers efforts and certainly see potential benefit..I wonder still if it not more practical to remote desktop as thin client using an app like splashtop for full windows desktop usability?
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Awesome
This is awesome! Great work!
This would be great.But, what I would really like,is to have all 3 OS on one tablet.
redhk886 said:
This would be great.But, what I would really like,is to have all 3 OS on one tablet.
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Why you gotta get greedy 5 posts in?
I have 20 US Dollars for the first person that can port even an alpha of this, and an extra 15 USD to anyone who can fix up our Ubuntu port (everything needed to fix the kernel is available in Samsung's ICS kernel). There are just too many sweet things that we get close to but never actually get.
Has there even been any Android based device that has had ReactOS running on it ever?
It sounds like OP is just rambling nonsense and wishful thinking.
The ARM port is able to run on the SGT but there is still a lot of work to do.
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What is the basis for this statement? Has someone demonstrated any ReactOS code running on a Tegra 2? Is it simply because someone put up that ARM Port section of the wiki? The ARM CPUs represent a wide range of devices. Just because someone decided to put up a blurb about that doesn't mean we are anywhere close to getting a worth while port of ReactOS running on this device.
Why is there a link to some Slashdot story from 1998?
Perhaps this is the way to go to make this tablet suck less, but I would recommend switching to a windows tablet, either a Rt-based or a x86-based tablet. Back when galaxy tab 2 10.1 came to the stores, I went ahead and got one.
And that was a decision I soon came to regret deeply. Android is simply not comparable to windows, not even on a tablet.
So I went to buy a hp elitepad, running windows 8 pro. This impressed me so much that I also bought an Asus vivotab Rt.
The fact that the elitepad is running x86, means that I now will install virtualbox, and then install android for x86.
And perhaps mac os, windows nt, bsd or Ubuntu. Time will show.
My point here being, it is better to start with a superior os and then install the inferior ones, instead of doing this in reverse.
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Perhaps this is the way to go to make this tablet suck less, but I would recommend switching to a windows tablet, either a Rt-based or a x86-based tablet. Back when galaxy tab 2 10.1 came to the stores, I went ahead and got one.
And that was a decision I soon came to regret deeply. Android is simply not comparable to windows, not even on a tablet.
So I went to buy a hp elitepad, running windows 8 pro. This impressed me so much that I also bought an Asus vivotab Rt.
The fact that the elitepad is running x86, means that I now will install virtualbox, and then install android for x86.
And perhaps mac os, windows nt, bsd or Ubuntu. Time will show.
My point here being, it is better to start with a superior os and then install the inferior ones, instead of doing this in reverse.
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You really can't compare a weak Tegra 2 processor to a much more powerful Intel processor, based on two totally different architectures, running two totally different OSes, two totally different tablets with entirely different specs... You're comparing a snail to a Toyota sports car.
Try out a Tegra 4 tablet or a Snapdragon 800 tablet... That's some good stuff. Nexus 10 too, Exynos is a beast.