Epic 2 is comming... - Epic 4G General

Samsung Epic 4G, WiMAX Galaxy S II and more tipped for Q3 launch
Details of a number of new CDMA phones have leaked, including the Samsung Epic 2 and what could well be the WiMAX version of the Samsung Galaxy S II, aka the “Galaxy Within.” According to This is my next‘s source, the Epic 2 – which will replace last year’s Epic 4G – with a 4-inch display, 1.2GHz single-core Hummingbird processor and an 8-megapixel camera, as well as a slide-out QWERTY keyboard of course, will drop sometime in Q3 2011.
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Leaked Handset Roadmap Includes Epic 2, Possible Galaxy S II for US Market
let’s talk a little bit more about the Samsung Epic 2. The original device you can get a real good look at on SlashGear in the original Epic 4G Review by Vince. Then come back here and listen to this: the new model is said to be carrying a 4-inch display, a 1.2GHz single-core Hummingbird processor almost certainly along the lines of the rest of the 1.2 GHz processor carrying Samsung devices of late, plus a lovely 8-megapixel camera on the back. The improvements, therefor, lie in the processor grabbing an extra .2 and the camera on the back adding a few megapixels.
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yeah i heard about the epic 2.. but I want that galaxy II BEFORE they release a galaxy III! 2012 will be samsungs year especially if they get CM team on board, you'll see a lot of htc devs jump ship.

I'm holding out for a 4.3" screen with a keyboard from Samsung. I couldn't really care any less about the number of processors.

i don't think it will be an "epic 2" though. i'm positive there's no keyboard.

Single core :-(
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Ugh ... that phone sounds horrible ! Wtf ...

So sounds like it will be pretty much the same phone but with a higher clocked processor and an 8 mp camera. Obviously not worth upgrading if you already have an epic, but maybe this will extend the updates life of the original epic even more if the rest of the hardware is identical.

iSaint said:
Ugh ... that phone sounds horrible ! Wtf ...
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Better than what you got right now!
Plus if it comes to Samsung Attention im sure they'll hold it back and do some tweaking like DUAL CORE if their Smart enough which i highly doubt it.

stir fry a lot said:
I'm holding out for a 4.3" screen with a keyboard from Samsung. I couldn't really care any less about the number of processors.
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+1 on the 4+" screen size, I need more screen realistate! 4" just isn't cutting it for me anymore.
SAMOLED+ on the 4.3-4.5" screen would be nice too!

ghostrid3r said:
+1 on the 4+" screen size, I need more screen realistate! 4" just isn't cutting it for me anymore.
SAMOLED+ on the 4.3-4.5" screen would be nice too!
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The Evo is 4.3" I really dont see a huge difference. its not like a whole 1" Differnece.

Boy...this would really be a dumbed down version of what Samsung touts as the SGSII. Can Sprint really bastardize a phone this much??!!
I mean, look at the differences between what Samsung has listed and what's listed above:
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxys2/html/feature.html
--Single vs. Dual-core
--Slide out keyboard vs. not
--4.0" vs. 4.3"
--and on and on and on
Be sure to click on the Specifications tab at the top too

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Boy...this would really be a dumbed down version of what Samsung touts as the SGSII. Can Sprint really bastardize a phone this much??!!
I mean, look at the differences between what Samsung has listed and what's listed above:
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxys2/html/feature.html
--Single vs. Dual-core
--Slide out keyboard vs. not
--4.0" vs. 4.3"
--and on and on and on
Be sure to click on the Specifications tab at the top too
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The Epic 2 has nothing to do with the Galaxy S II. Its a completely different phone. The Samsung/Sprint Within is the Galaxy S II version coming to sprint.

hayzooos said:
Boy...this would really be a dumbed down version of what Samsung touts as the SGSII. Can Sprint really bastardize a phone this much??!!
I mean, look at the differences between what Samsung has listed and what's listed above:
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxys2/html/feature.html
--Single vs. Dual-core
--Slide out keyboard vs. not
--4.0" vs. 4.3"
--and on and on and on
Be sure to click on the Specifications tab at the top too
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I think you are overreacting a bit. Reading the story, it seems there are 2 samsung phones, one is an iteration on the Epic and the other is the "Full Touch". I would say that is the phone to compare to the SGS II.
What a Epic 2 could mean is the two phones are similarly spec'd, it could put the Epic 1 on a path to receiving android updates for another year.

It looks better than the Epic no doubt ... but it's not that good for a phone dropping in E3 Sammy + Sprint are all ready planning on screwing this phone over i can feel it.

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I think you are overreacting a bit. Reading the story, it seems there are 2 samsung phones, one is an iteration on the Epic and the other is the "Full Touch". I would say that is the phone to compare to the SGS II.
What a Epic 2 could mean is the two phones are similarly spec'd, it could put the Epic 1 on a path to receiving android updates for another year.
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Especially if its still a single core.
Ah, why would sammy go and screw this phone over like that? This was the phone of the year, lol, it should top all phones out there just like this one did.
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I wish Samsung would have reworked their keyboard on the EPIC II to make it more user friendly. The keys on the Epic seem hard and sticky whereas the keyboard on the HTC Arrive was a lot smoother.
Hopefully the "EPIC III" fixes this issue.....

Nice find, the Epic 2 doesn't sound so Epic compared to the Within. It seems like Samsung is just improving the Epic just like the Samsung Transform was a supped up Moment. Guess we should all start getting used to Swype if we want high-end phones.

newbieandroid said:
Nice find, the Epic 2 doesn't sound so Epic compared to the Within. It seems like Samsung is just improving the Epic just like the Samsung Transform was a supped up Moment. Guess we should all start getting used to Swype if we want high-end phones.
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Yeah but the Transform was the "BABY" Epic and the Intercept was the 2nd Gen Moment but failed to be a successor to it.

I hate it how sprint pulls the moment/intercept/transform on us >.>
I had hopes they would spec bump the Epic 2 with the SGS2 specs..but this is sad...really not worth upgrading over :/..at best it might be worth it if you get sprint to replace your epic with this I guess..but overall I am disappointed :/

Still, i feel the epic is still top of the line, its the first phone that they got all the hardware correct on, not leaving things out
An epic 2 should hold the name epic by having the same hardware as ours but with dual core 1.4ghz, 8mp,1.3 front facing, 4" or 4.3 inch screen and keyboard with 16gb onboard memory
^^^^This would be a truly epic phone and i would pay for it no matter the cost
But lets get back to reality i think the best phone with the hardware we want including keyboard is the epic, i dont think there will be another one that can top the epic from sprint/samsung or sprint/htc.

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Who else wants the Galaxy S to come to sprint also?

I would much rather have the Epic without the keyboard. When I switched from my mogul to my hero I thought dropping a keyboard would be hard, but it wasn't. Also the Galaxy S is SUPER thin, about as thin as the Iphone 4.
Anyone else on the same boat?
If they don't get the Galaxy S I'd probably just go with the epic.
For those wondering the Galaxy S has no keyboard (like the tmobile vibrant, it's also under 10mm thin) the Galaxy S pro (which is the Epic 4g has a keyboard).
Perhaps you can get the Verizon version working on Sprint. I've read that the retail on these devices is below $500.
But honestly, even if you do not use the keyboard, the added thickness is not that bad. This coming from a person who has a TouchPro2 and never used the physical keyboard.
chococrazy said:
I would much rather have the Epic without the keyboard. When I switched from my mogul to my hero I thought dropping a keyboard would be hard, but it wasn't. Also the Galaxy S is SUPER thin, about as thin as the Iphone 4.
Anyone else on the same boat?
If they don't get the Galaxy S I'd probably just go with the epic.
For those wondering the Galaxy S has no keyboard (like the tmobile vibrant, it's also under 10mm thin) the Galaxy S pro (which is the Epic 4g has a keyboard).
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The Epic 4G is a Galaxy S phone lol
Pops_G said:
Perhaps you can get the Verizon version working on Sprint. I've read that the retail on these devices is below $500.
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Will not happen (legally). Sprint and Verizon absolutely will not activate each others phones.
s84471 said:
The Epic 4G is a Galaxy S phone lol
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But it is totally different from all of the other Galaxy S variants. It was fairly obvious what he meant.
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But it is totally different from all of the other Galaxy S variants. It was fairly obvious what he meant.
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You're right, it's way better, full qwerty for those who want it, swype still installed for those who don't, 4G radio and a flash, yet still slim enough to contend with the likes of the Evo and such, oh wait who on earth wants anything OTHER than an Epic? lol
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You're right, it's way better, full qwerty for those who want it, swype still installed for those who don't, 4G radio and a flash, yet still slim enough to contend with the likes of the Evo and such, oh wait who on earth wants anything OTHER than an Epic? lol
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Well, besides the OP, me! I don't like hardware keyboards or the bulk that they bring. I would love to try out something as thin as the standard Galaxy S. I couldn't see myself ever typing with the hardware keyboard, so it would be a total waste.
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TheBiles said:
Well, besides the OP, me! I don't like hardware keyboards or the bulk that they bring. I would love to try out something as thin as the standard Galaxy S. I couldn't see myself ever typing with the hardware keyboard, so it would be a total waste.
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Ignore the hardware keyboard as I'm going to do and you have an Evo on steroids with a gorgeous screen. I don't do hardware keyboards either, but thick? It's about a quarter fingernail thicker than an Evo and 3x the phone the Evo will ever be without the help of any developer (you can't patch hardware). With custom ROMs this phone has the potencial to be the best "superphone" in the game until well into the end of the year and looking at how fast the smartphone market is moving that's saying alot.
Display-wise, this is going to be king of the hill until someone figures out how to get a Retina-quality IPS display on their phones. I would take Retina over Super AMOLED, but Samsung has a monopoly on Super AMOLED for quite a while into the future, and hteir phones are going to be the only ones that have it. I don't know if any other company is going to be able to get an IPS LCD that is as good as Apples while also being 4+" in size. For one thing, they will be very expensive and will probably experience shortages as all the different manufacturers clamor for them.
As for the CPU, the GS might get beat in the Spring, but not before then, and these processors are going to be pretty power hungry and more expensive to manufacture.
A new "superphone" with a 4" 300dpi IPS display and a dual core snapdragon will be big, expensive and power hungry. Basically, not something I would want to buy.
I am curious to see whether 28nm phone processors will be available by next summer, and whether Apple will be able to use one in the next iPhone. Something tells me they will just use another 45nm CPU and not bother to upgrade their A4 much at all.
Edit: Global Foundries will probably not be manufacturing at 28nm until 2012, which probably means that I am right about Apple not doing much with the next iPhone CPU.
Or maybe not. TSMC is supposed to be shipping 28nm right about now, designed for mobile applications.
Sebrina said:
Ignore the hardware keyboard as I'm going to do and you have an Evo on steroids with a gorgeous screen. I don't do hardware keyboards either, but thick? It's about a quarter fingernail thicker than an Evo and 3x the phone the Evo will ever be without the help of any developer (you can't patch hardware). With custom ROMs this phone has the potencial to be the best "superphone" in the game until well into the end of the year and looking at how fast the smartphone market is moving that's saying alot.
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Sorry, it's hard for me to just ignore a large hardware component that actually affects the size and shape of the device. Especially when I know that without it the phone could be much thinner.
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Sorry, it's hard for me to just ignore a large hardware component that actually affects the size and shape of the device. Especially when I know that without it the phone could be much thinner.
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You're right that's why I returned my Evo it's much longer and wider than the Galaxy S is thicker than the Evo, just didn't feel good in the hand that's partially the reason I returned my Evo, well that compounded with the Evo's bad hardware.
The keyboard is the best part for me. I can't wait.

Anyone jumping to galaxy SII?

I was reading on another forum the other day and they were saying that the galaxy SII is coming to all carriers around June or so. If it comes to Sprint I'm definitely getting. The phone will blow any other phone away. Anyone else want this phone?
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musclehead84 said:
I was reading on another forum the other day and they were saying that the galaxy SII is coming to all carriers around June or so. If it comes to Sprint I'm definitely getting. The phone will blow any other phone away. Anyone else want this phone?
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I definitely want it but by the time my 2 year renewal is up I will probably be getting the Galaxy 3D
Yep I only have 7 years under my belt, because of that I have no clue what will be next.....next is sept 2012 lol.... it wont be an sgs2 unless I really have to have it and can shell out the extra 75 bucks in nov. I know for sure I made a good choice tho, my epic will still stand tall for another 12+ months, I'm enjoying the ride anyhow.
Side note, I'm not so sure the mali400 gpu that's in the sgs2 is anything great, unless its only running one gpu core at the moment, which means samsung will have to update it later....cough never. I want a phone with a powerful gpu and am hoping for sgx-543 or better.
kennyglass123 said:
I definitely want it but by the time my 2 year renewal is up I will probably be getting the Galaxy 3D
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May have to let my 2-y-o use my phone like a hockey puck again :-D
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Won't be easy. I've really fallen in love with the game gripper on my epic. I use the keyboard to type every single text message. I really hate on-screen keyboards. Even swype. Swype has actually gotten much worse over time...
The Galaxy S2 looks freakin amazing. I love it. I want it. I Just want it... with a keyboard
hydralisk said:
Won't be easy. I've really fallen in love with the game gripper on my epic. I use the keyboard to type every single text message. I really hate on-screen keyboards. Even swype. Swype has actually gotten much worse over time...
The Galaxy S2 looks freakin amazing. I love it. I want it. I Just want it... with a keyboard
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you ever tried using swiftkey??
musclehead84 said:
I was reading on another forum the other day and they were saying that the galaxy SII is coming to all carriers around June or so. If it comes to Sprint I'm definitely getting. The phone will blow any other phone away. Anyone else want this phone?
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For me it depends if we get the sexy thin version I keep seeing or a softer cartoonish body like the Epic. I don't want a hard keyboard or the thicker shell that comes with it. I want a gorgeous phone next time. The Epic is already plenty functional so only sexy AND functional will ever get me to upgrade.
..But I'll still have a year in my contract by the time it comes out
Wait..Does this thing have a Tegra 2?
hydralisk said:
I really hate on-screen keyboards. Even swype. Swype has actually gotten much worse over time...
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Clearing data helps swype not suck so much. Its too bad the custom dictionary entries just end up making swype mess up every other word
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SpicyBurrito said:
..But I'll still have a year in my contract by the time it comes out
Wait..Does this thing have a Tegra 2?
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-official-tegra-2-4-3-inch-super-amoled-plu/
Update: We were originally told that the Galaxy S II would be using an NVIDIA Tegra 2 SOC, but have been informed that was incorrect -- the phone will indeed have a dual-core 1GHz Samsung chip, and quite possibly the Exynos. There's also 1GB of RAM.
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No; there was an error in reporting when the specs were first put out, it seems.
No, I'm waiting for galaxySIII.
Quad core
4 Gb ram
2600p camera
Android 4.0
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dchawk81 said:
For me it depends if we get the sexy thin version I keep seeing or a softer cartoonish body like the Epic. I don't want a hard keyboard or the thicker shell that comes with it. I want a gorgeous phone next time. The Epic is already plenty functional so only sexy AND functional will ever get me to upgrade.
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I totally agree. Samsung would have hit a homerun with the Epic had they given it some harder corners and a little more heft but if the GSII comes in some professional packaging I may seriously consider it.
The dual core processor isn't going to make it that much speedier. Sure it will let you listen to music, browse the web, and play games at the same time. But actual game performance won't be that much improved. Just as it was with PCs and multiple cores.
Not Getting the GS2 AT ALL!!
im Getting the Evo 3D
why you ask? Looks like neither will have keyboards and the Evo gets all the Dev love.
Plus 1.2 Dual core ... i don't need more than that these processors are sooo overclockable its crazy...
Also i think alot of people will never buy Samsung again so its Dev community will even be smaller....
My current Hummingbird is handling everything fine. I'd just like a more attractive form and a larger screen. I'm a fan of face tablet phones I think 4.3" is the sweet spot.
LunaticWolf said:
The dual core processor isn't going to make it that much speedier. Sure it will let you listen to music, browse the web, and play games at the same time. But actual game performance won't be that much improved. Just as it was with PCs and multiple cores.
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My laptop blows away my desktop. Both are 2.16ghz clocks. The laptop is dual core. The desktop is single core.
I hope Sprint changes the looks of it if they get it, I dont like the way it looks.
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My laptop blows away my desktop. Both are 2.16ghz clocks. The laptop is dual core. The desktop is single core.
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Name the era. Of course a 2010 2.1ghz is going to blow away a 2006 2.1ghz. The refinement isn't the cores, but how much the processor can do with a single clock.
2006 dual cores were no faster than 2006 single cores, except for multi-tasking.
Just as quad cores in 2009-2010 had little benefit over their dual core counterparts, unless you are doing video encoding or 3d rendering via blender or maya.
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Name the era. Of course a 2010 2.1ghz is going to blow away a 2006 2.1ghz. The refinement isn't the cores, but how much the processor can do with a single clock.
2006 dual cores were no faster than 2006 single cores, except for multi-tasking.
Just as quad cores in 2009-2010 had little benefit over their dual core counterparts, unless you are doing video encoding or rendering.
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you'll barely notice the speed difference in the Evo3d or The GS2 compared to the Epic right now... but it will make a HUGE difference overall like the battery life and other thingys
Here's a preview of the international version of the Galaxy S II. The 8 megapixel camera is the best they have ever seen and can record 1080p video with full 30 fps! I hope for the Sprint version they leave out the keyboard and put in an even bigger battery (already a solid 1650mah). I'll take this over the HTC Evo 3d. 3d is such a silly gimmick.

Hardware optimization.

Why does everyone give HTC so much credit for not challenging themselves? They make a midgrade product and optimize it while their users thumb their noses at a company that may make a product that is overly ready for the software that's out. Should it be Samsung's fault for raising the bar or Google's fault for not meeting them? Should Samsung start lowering their standard so they can meet market demand for more updates? I find there are a bunch of conflicting business models here.
Software compatibility and hardware aren't always the same. We bought the epic [those of us who know our ass from our hands] bc it had the right hardware to stand the test of time which in the cell phone world means at least 2 years. Its all that can be expected. The rest is hope....
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qhd display, dual 1.2 ghz cpu and 1gig of ram is not good enough?
did samsung push themselves when they made the transform?
how about the continuum?
What about the infuse and charge?
Samsung vibrant 4G
how about the nexus S?
I thought this was suppose to be the showcase of what phones are to become but samsung dropped the ball on this one. It is nothing more then a downgraded epic! It should of at least had the 4.3" super AMOLED plus screen and have a dual core processor. Then googled might of optimized their future software on samsung specs which would of made more manufacture buy more samsung components.
No notification LED no SD card slot and you in love with samsung?
The only galaxy series phone that had everything was the epic. It had the best feel of quality, there other ones do feel cheap. It has flash, it has a front camera and it has a keyboard which I wish sprint had one without. Let just say sprint did great because I wouldn't of brought this if it didn't have a LED flash or front facing camera. Keyboard was just extra cheese on my cheese pizza.
I brought the epic because it had the best hardware during that time, now i would buy the evo3d because it would have the best hardware if i had to get a phone now.
an optimized 4 cylinder engine is better then a sloppy 6 cylinder. And this is what the epic feels like with the GPS, compass and keyboard issue, a sloppy 6 cylinder engine. It is minor problems and can be fixed through software updates, its too bad samsung doesn't even think twice about products that has already been released.
Samsung should be building towards google future design. If samsung wanted google to design to their future proof hardware they should of designed a better nexus S.
The only company out there that should be praised for pushing the standard is Apple. That is tough for me to say but it is true. No company has gotten to apple's feel of quality (not to be confused with build quality), samsung next gen phone is still a bit thicker then apple's even with the OLED display and the next gen resolution display are still below apple's current resolutions.
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qhd display, dual 1.2 ghz cpu and 1gig of ram is not good enough?
did samsung push themselves when they made the transform?
how about the continuum?
What about the infuse and charge?
Samsung vibrant 4G
how about the nexus S?
I thought this was suppose to be the showcase of what phones are to become but samsung dropped the ball on this one. It is nothing more then a downgraded epic! It should of at least had the 4.3" super AMOLED plus screen and have a dual core processor. Then googled might of optimized their future software on samsung specs which would of made more manufacture buy more samsung components.
No notification LED no SD card slot and you in love with samsung?
The only galaxy series phone that had everything was the epic. It had the best feel of quality, there other ones do feel cheap. It has flash, it has a front camera and it has a keyboard which I wish sprint had one without. Let just say sprint did great because I wouldn't of brought this if it didn't have a LED flash or front facing camera. Keyboard was just extra cheese on my cheese pizza.
I brought the epic because it had the best hardware during that time, now i would buy the evo3d because it would have the best hardware if i had to get a phone now.
an optimized 4 cylinder engine is better then a sloppy 6 cylinder. And this is what the epic feels like with the GPS, compass and keyboard issue, a sloppy 6 cylinder engine. It is minor problems and can be fixed through software updates, its too bad samsung doesn't even think twice about products that has already been released.
Samsung should be building towards google future design. If samsung wanted google to design to their future proof hardware they should of designed a better nexus S.
The only company out there that should be praised for pushing the standard is Apple. That is tough for me to say but it is true. No company has gotten to apple's feel of quality (not to be confused with build quality), samsung next gen phone is still a bit thicker then apple's even with the OLED display and the next gen resolution display are still below apple's current resolutions.
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Really? Because gingerbread was optimized for the hummingbird chip. And you seem to forget the nexus was debuted some months ago, not recently. And that the original evo had a much outdated snapdragon and a camera that couldn't stand up to ours even with more megapixels.
And you also seem to ignore the fact that there are some evo 3d's shipping with crooked screens.
CROOKED SCREENS
Yeh, that's reaaallll good quality right there.
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The only company out there that should be praised for pushing the standard is Apple. That is tough for me to say but it is true. No company has gotten to apple's feel of quality (not to be confused with build quality), samsung next gen phone is still a bit thicker then apple's even with the OLED display and the next gen resolution display are still below apple's current resolutions.
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Just to point out, the Galaxy S II is actually thinner than the iPhone 4. The iPhone 4 is 9.3mm thick and the Galaxy S II is 8.49mm thick.. Now if you are talking about the bottom where the speaker is then you'd be right.
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qhd display, dual 1.2 ghz cpu and 1gig of ram is not good enough?
did samsung push themselves when they made the transform?
how about the continuum?
What about the infuse and charge?
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um..the only devices that samsung themselves releases are the international ones..the customized ones you see in the states are at the request of carriers..
how about the nexus S?
I thought this was suppose to be the showcase of what phones are to become but samsung dropped the ball on this one. It is nothing more then a downgraded epic! It should of at least had the 4.3" super AMOLED plus screen and have a dual core processor. Then googled might of optimized their future software on samsung specs which would of made more manufacture buy more samsung components.
No notification LED no SD card slot and you in love with samsung?
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Again..all this was at Google's request..the point of the Nexus S project also includes giving every member of the alliance a chance to make hardware and every single cpu vendor have an os optimized for their cpus..one of the biggest goal of gingerbread was to make the optimization for the hummingbird processor.
The only galaxy series phone that had everything was the epic. It had the best feel of quality, there other ones do feel cheap. It has flash, it has a front camera and it has a keyboard which I wish sprint had one without. Let just say sprint did great because I wouldn't of brought this if it didn't have a LED flash or front facing camera. Keyboard was just extra cheese on my cheese pizza.
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All credit here goes to sprint actually for requesting it like that..not samsung...front facing camera is only thing that was in the original design.
I brought the epic because it had the best hardware during that time, now i would buy the evo3d because it would have the best hardware if i had to get a phone now.
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SGS2 has been out for a while..the international one works on AT&T bands too lol..so cant exactly say evo3d is best..maybe on sprint..
an optimized 4 cylinder engine is better then a sloppy 6 cylinder. And this is what the epic feels like with the GPS, compass and keyboard issue, a sloppy 6 cylinder engine. It is minor problems and can be fixed through software updates, its too bad samsung doesn't even think twice about products that has already been released.
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They are trying with the GPS last Ive seen..and I assure you grass is not greener on the other side..every manufacturer has some sort of issues..thats just how hardware is..
Samsung should be building towards google future design. If samsung wanted google to design to their future proof hardware they should of designed a better nexus S.
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Again, not the point of the Nexus S..the only standards Nexus S was meant to set was the NFC chip and attempt at curved display. All else is cpu optimization and the rest..it was not meant to set the bar for raw power.
The only company out there that should be praised for pushing the standard is Apple. That is tough for me to say but it is true. No company has gotten to apple's feel of quality (not to be confused with build quality), samsung next gen phone is still a bit thicker then apple's even with the OLED display and the next gen resolution display are still below apple's current resolutions.
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um...you just criticized samsung for not having of, notification leds and sd card...but apple doing it is ok? and in terms of specs and release dates SGS has better hardware then iphone 4...
And as stated sgs 2 is thinner..
See its not that apple sets a standard..its more so that Apple makes people believe that something is that way regardless of whether it is or not..
Psychology is very important and you will notice that 2 things can be viewed completely different based on it...
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Really? Because gingerbread was optimized for the hummingbird chip. And you seem to forget the nexus was debuted some months ago, not recently. And that the original evo had a much outdated snapdragon and a camera that couldn't stand up to ours even with more megapixels.
And you also seem to ignore the fact that there are some evo 3d's shipping with crooked screens.
CROOKED SCREENS
Yeh, that's reaaallll good quality right there.
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And i guess from the love from samsung that you read somewhere in my rant that the evo 3d had a better build quality? Please quote where i even stated that or even assumed it. So from this statement I did not have to state the crooked screen since i never said they were better or worse then samsung's quality in design.
The nexus S came out during the 1st Quarter of this year. They could of easily used the infuse or the charges hardware for the nexus S design or even delayed it for a month if they needed too. Why be like HTC and put in a outdated cpu?
Why are you arguing the fact that HTC did it and they are evil but samsung did it and they are ok. Nexus S should be the phone showing off the companies quality. There is a big reason why most of us stayed with our Epics even though we do not need the keyboard and would love to have a keyboardless epic.
Why are you ignoring that fact about that samsung also makes.
tbob18 said:
Just to point out, the Galaxy S II is actually thinner than the iPhone 4. The iPhone 4 is 9.3mm thick and the Galaxy S II is 8.49mm thick.. Now if you are talking about the bottom where the speaker is then you'd be right.
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I haven't seen the 8.49mm depth before. Most sites are stating 9.9mm. Thanks for the clarification. This is the only phone i am looking forward too now. I just wish it had a higher resolution.
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I won't argue with you because I know that i would loose no matter how the planets align .
You right about every manufacture having hardware issues. This is the main reason I have 5 evos and 1 epic on my sprint account. The bad taste of the touch pro 2 still lingers. I just don't understand why people are knocking on the evo 3d when it is really considered a good phone and on top of that, its on sprint. Were all team sprint aren't we?
I do have to argue about apple setting the standard though. It took phone companies over a year to become as thin has apples phones. Samsung should of been thinner to begin with the nature of OLED screens being thinner.
Well i own 2 lots Apple stock so i might have to keep saying this until i sell it.
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I haven't seen the 8.49mm depth before. Most sites are stating 9.9mm. Thanks for the clarification. This is the only phone i am looking forward too now. I just wish it had a higher resolution.
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9.9mm is the size of the original sgs aka i9000, vibrant etc...SGS 2 is thinner..
pkny said:
I won't argue with you because I know that i would loose no matter how the planets align .
You right about every manufacture having hardware issues. This is the main reason I have 5 evos and 1 epic on my sprint account. The bad taste of the touch pro 2 still lingers. I just don't understand why people are knocking on the evo 3d when it is really considered a good phone and on top of that, its on sprint. Were all team sprint aren't we?
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People are knocking it because they expected the Evo 3d to blow people away.when the original Evo came out there really was not much of a competitive market and people chose purely HTC...with that the Evo was the best specced HTC phone..this time around things are A LOT more competitive, you have LG, Motorola, Samsung and other players enter the market with products just as good if not better..
Also a lot of competition in the 4G sector makes wimax not very competitive..(sprint needs to go wimax enhanced already >.>)
I do have to argue about apple setting the standard though. It took phone companies over a year to become as thin has apples phones. Samsung should of been thinner to begin with the nature of OLED screens being thinner.
Well i own 2 lots Apple stock so i might have to keep saying this until i sell it.
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its kinda playing a catchup game sgs 2 will be thinner then my guess iphone 5 will be thinner then sgs 3 will be thinner...get it? there are more factors though that go into this then just the screen..for one that thinness could have been done if they took out the sd card port..but would we want that? Apple had to do sacrifices on the Antenna to accomplish that thinness at the time..so whether it was worth it or not is another story..at what point do we go.."this is thin enough" lol
btw apple actually increased thickness on white iphone 4...
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btw apple actually increased thickness on white iphone 4...
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No, they didn't. that was a fallacy. White and black iPhones have been measured side by side with micrometers on several sites disproving this.

New Upgraded Galaxy S2 soon

SamFirmware confirm. Also confirm that the Nexus prime will be made by Samsung.
http://www.samfirmware.com/apps/blog/show/8242490-upgraded-galaxy-s-ii
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The site isn't currently working for me but it'll probably be the same in specs but with a 4G radio.
Says 1.5 duo core - 4.5 screen - 1850 battery - 4G - rest is the same as the one we all have now.
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Many sources available now:
http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-confirms-revamped-galaxy-s-ii-and-galaxy-tab-8-9-with-lte-support/
http://sammyhub.com/2011/08/26/samsung-confirms-galaxy-s-ii-with-lte/
http://thisismynext.com/2011/08/26/samsung-galaxy-ii-galaxy-tab-8-9-shown-lte-ifa-week/
And more rumours about Nexus Prime:
http://www.gsmarena.com/thank_you_samsung_for_confirming_nexus_prime_is_yours-news-3051.php
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/samsung-accidentally-confirmed-the-nexus-prime-20110825/
http://www.samfirmware.com/apps/blog/show/8242870-samsung-will-make-the-nexus-prime
Its named Celox..
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Says 1.5 duo core - 4.5 screen - 1850 battery - 4G - rest is the same as the one we all have now.
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Ahh I see. I saw the leaked photo of the US Galaxy S2 family and while they're all nice I can't help but think the International version looks better. Plus I'm not sure whether I'd fancy the bigger screen, 4.3" seems to be the sweet spot for myself.
Here we are, with our SGSII's... as early adopters....
And now they release what it probably should have been in the first place with proper firmware probably.
Oh well, it's always the same
good bye SGS2 !
wait until they are benchmarked and the first problems arise.
I wonder if it's a Qualcomm SOC or Exynos. Exynos demolishes Qualcomm's offerings at the moment
honestly, the pace at which android phones are being upgraded is dizzying. This is one of the reasons many stick with the iphone. This is giving me crazy phone upgrade cravings :|
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honestly, the pace at which android phones are being upgraded is dizzying. This is one of the reasons many stick with the iphone. This is giving me crazy phone upgrade cravings :|
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Might as well dust off the 'ol 3310 then....
You can always eBay your sgs2 and pick up one sim unlocked nexus prime, the sgs2 should hold its value well and you should be able to cover a good chunk of the cost
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honestly, the pace at which android phones are being upgraded is dizzying. This is one of the reasons many stick with the iphone. This is giving me crazy phone upgrade cravings :|
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And this is a bad thing in your world...yes???
...with an iPhone upgrade due any time now too??
Its good and bad at the same time I think. Gonna stick it out for a long yime with the sgs2 but the cravings will persisy unfortunately. No cravings yet though, love this phone.
agreed to #15.
1) is there a need for another 0.2" of screen estate?
my take : 4.3" sgs2 is the sweet spot for me. i have trouble swiping my thumb across the whole screen already.
2) is there a need for an extra 0.3mhz of processor or 1850mah battery?
my take : setcpu is the answer.
extended battery pack aren't expensive on ebay.
My opinions
The extra processing power and screen estate will nullify the increase in capacity of batt. furthermore, the perennial dual core issue is still unfixed in 2.3.4. and samsung have the balls to release another "beta" phone.
my hunch
samsung is trying hard to best iphone5 and downplay it's "wow factor" in sept. notice the link? 4.5, dual core 1.5, it's all marketing numbers. like megapixel wars. no doubt, people will start comparing iphone 5 with 4.5" S2 in terms of raw power. that's what sammy wants.
but for what apple did, whoring over patents. go smash iphone5 to pieces man, sammy. we'll love a phone war anytime.
conclusion
4.5" S2 is a marketing gadget.
SGS2 has already covered much that we (a typical consumer) need.
If there's anything to look, go for tablets tegra kai-el releasing in a few months time.
I'm sure 4.5" S2 would look like phone drenched in cat piss in a few months time.
go for 4.5" S2 if...
you want lte.
you want nfc. ironically 4.3" S2 korea has it.
you use gadgets, not the other way around! ^^;
If they improve the sound quality and Supercurio brings voodoo to it, I'll be all over it.
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1) is there a need for another 0.2" of screen estate?
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conclusion
4.5" S2 is a marketing gadget.
SGS2 has already covered much that we (a typical consumer) need.
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Decent analysis and I think I pretty much concur. However, I don't think (and I'm not suggesting that you do either) that Samsung are doing this to piss off early adopters or force us to upgrade - they haven't even changed the name for starters, so there is no real sense of this being something new.
Marketing gimmick? Possibly, but only hardcore techies are going to be influenced by the marginal increase in specs.
So I suspect that the bits they use to make the device have moved on - if you can get a 4.5" screen at the same price as the old 4.3", why not use it...?
This is a gentle evolution in my book, not a massive statement.
If you have a GS2 there is no reason at all to go for that phone, a 4.5" screen imo will make the phone a little on the large side and this phone can be over-clocked if desired, I don't see the point of it.
What about SUPER AMOLED HD display that was talked about ??

HTC Amaze 4g vs SGS II

Which would you get? Both are supposed to come out October 26th. Both have Gingerbread. Amaze has Sense 3.5, SGSII has TWIZ. Almost all the specs are same. The main difference I see is that the Amaze has a 1.5 dual core processor. The SGSII has been listed on some sites with 1.2 and on others with 1.5. If it is 1.2, I think the Amaze may be my choice.
The Amaze would also be my choice since Samsung has waited so long to release the GSII here, and they've refused to acknowledged the GPS issue with the Vibrant. I think my "never again" protest will be to actually never again purchase a Samsung product. Or at least not this time around.
I also don't like the 4.5" screen size that the SGSII for T-Mo is coming with. AT&T seems to be the only US carrier with enough sense in their heads to keep it at 4.3". Is the Amaze also supposed to be 4.5" of over-sized ridiculousness?
The issue isn't really the screen size, IMO. The issue is the screen resolution. They are increasing sizes to epic proportions, but not increasing the resolution which degrades video on the screen compared to 4-4.3" devices. 4.3" @ WVGA is already borderline for me. I require qHD for a 4.5-4.7" screen. It's just that simple. The phoen can be the hottest thing since sliced bread, but the screen is what I look at all the time I look at it. Vibrant colors aren't enough anymore. Need a better PPI.
If I had a choice, and if the Amaze does have 16GB internal storage... It's pretty much a no brainer. Amaze it is.
Only thing I don't like is that HTC Sense has become cluttered as **** lately. I used my Mom's inspire and got knocked the **** out when I long pressed on the home screen. There was so much crap there...
4.3-inch qHD display, a dual-core 1.5GHz processor, an 8-megapixel camera, 2 MP FFC, 16GB of storage, 1GB of RAM and HSPA+ 42 are specs for the HTC Amaze
Droidificator said:
The Amaze would also be my choice since Samsung has waited so long to release the GSII here, and they've refused to acknowledged the GPS issue with the Vibrant. I think my "never again" protest will be to actually never again purchase a Samsung product. Or at least not this time around.
I also don't like the 4.5" screen size that the SGSII for T-Mo is coming with. AT&T seems to be the only US carrier with enough sense in their heads to keep it at 4.3". Is the Amaze also supposed to be 4.5" of over-sized ridiculousness?
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OMG, yea.. that .2" is the deal breaker for me! Especially considering that is measured diagonally! That is like .1" in each direction! And yes.. that is sarcasm. I don't think that .2" should be a defining characteristic to anyone unless the device itself gets significantly bigger than that as a whole.
I am not sure that this is the same on all devices(phones, tablets, pc/macs) but I am pretty sure THIS "--" is longer than .2". If you don't believe me, go find a ruler or tape measure, or I am pretty sure there is an app for that.. .2" is nothing.
Anyways, THAT aside.. I will agree to an extent that as screen size gets bigger, so should the resolution or ppi.. but then again it would have to significantly increase in size before you notice any degradation in quality. Yes, the iPhone has its "whatever the hell it's called" display(too tired lazy to remember/look it up), and MAYBE it is noticeable compared to devices like the vibrant.. but increasing to a 4.5" device isn't going to be a huge downgrade by far.
Besides, I haven't even considered the HTC amaze 4g.. why? I haven't heard it is coming to t-mobile(pretty sure it isn't..). I am not going to switch carriers for a phone.. the phone I buy is based on the carriers, what they offer, and the prices.. so is it coming for tmo? If not, than what reason do you have to switch to their carrier BESIDES the phone?
/rant. Too tired for this anyways.
rbtady said:
4.3-inch qHD display, a dual-core 1.5GHz processor, an 8-megapixel camera, 2 MP FFC, 16GB of storage, 1GB of RAM and HSPA+ 42 are specs for the HTC Amaze
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Aren't all of those the same specs the same that the prime is supposed to have, except for a 5mp camera(with a better sensor instead)? Except it will have ice cream sandwich? Haven't we learned anything from our vibrants? Buy a device that is either truly superior, or starts off with a better software upgrade.. I would rather have something that will software-wise be superior and equal or better hardware wise..
Not sure why my distaste for 4.5" displays twisted your panties so tightly, but have you ever held a phone that size in your hand? I have, and it wasn't comfortable. I'm not all that fond of the 4.3" size either, but its a little less of an adjustment to get used to, since I know several people with phones that size and have had a chance to compare them to my Vibrant. Rant about factual errors all you like; keep your rants about other people's preferences between your ears (doing that also has the added benefit of making it less obvious there's plenty of room there for rants to knock around).
The Amaze was called Ruby during development, if I'm not mistaken, and yes, its coming to T-Mo. So start thinking about it.
Sent from my rough sketch of a Vibrant on a brick.
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4.3-inch qHD display, a dual-core 1.5GHz processor, an 8-megapixel camera, 2 MP FFC, 16GB of storage, 1GB of RAM and HSPA+ 42 are specs for the HTC Amaze
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If these are accurate, this will be my next phone... if I can keep myself from buying a Sensation, that is.
Sent from my rough sketch of a Vibrant on a brick.
ill be buying a hercules!!
And having fun at #NeverAgain 2.0 after they release the Galaxy S 2.5 4-5 months later for forget about your T-Mobile model that has different hardware components from basically all the other variants?
AT&T are setting themselves up good with their model. They're sticking pretty close to the international variant there...
Based on the HD recording abilities, the Amaze is looking pretty nice.
Both phones are officially coming out on October 12th, pre-sale online/phone on the 10th. Amaze is $259 after rebate, galaxy S II is $229.
Price difference aside... I have no idea which I'm going to buy yet. I really like my Vibrant and wouldn't really hesitate to buy another Samsung device. On the other side, I like the screen resolution on the Amaze.
I like the fact that Cyanogen works at Samsung now, and how quickly Samsung has been with releasing source for their Galaxy S II phones (although not the T-Mobile variant yet from what I can tell).
I haven't had experience with HTC since the G1, are they as good at modding as the Samsung devices right now?
Amaze. It's an HTC and the specs are literally identical except the Amaze has a qHD 4.3" SLCD Screen vs. 4.52" WVGA SAMOLED+ and the Amaze has a superior camera.
Gonna have to go with the Amaze 4G, provided I even decide to waste another Year+ with T-Mobile.
However, it's rumored that the Galaxy SII has support for AT&T UMTS/HSPA+ Bands, as well.
If that's the case, I'll get the GSII and ETF after a month and move to AT&T, since T-Mobile has less bloatware they put on their devices... Only two GSM Carriers here so a T-Mobile phoen with all brands is as good as an Unlocked, Unbranded device...
If the Amaze 4G has those bands as well, then it's a blow-out. There's also the possibility to just get a Cheap Atrix 4G and call it a day. With the updates those run decently now.
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Which would you get? Both are supposed to come out October 26th. Both have Gingerbread. Amaze has Sense 3.5, SGSII has TWIZ. Almost all the specs are same. The main difference I see is that the Amaze has a 1.5 dual core processor. The SGSII has been listed on some sites with 1.2 and on others with 1.5. If it is 1.2, I think the Amaze may be my choice.
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The correct CPU is 1.5 Ghz Dual Core Qualcomm, which is basically the same on both the Galaxy S2 and Amaze
many of those blog sites are waaaaaaaay outdated
I'll go for the Galaxy S2 (hercules) for the SAMOLED+ screen, the Amaze uses sLCD
other than that, both phone are almost identical
with minal difference in the battery the Hercules has 1850mAh can be upgraded to 2000 mAh (original by samsung) without changing battery cover, Amaze is 1730 (less juice)
more amaze details here http://htc.t-mobile.com/amaze-camera-phone
personally i'm going for the Galaxy S2 (hercules)
So which is better? AMOLED plus or the LCD Screen? Both appear to have 1080 HD recording, but does the Amaze have better picture taking abilities? Finally, the Galaxy S II isn't listed as having NFC in its specs on the t-mobile website.
http://galaxy-s.t-mobile.com/samsung-galaxy-s2
AllGamer said:
The correct CPU is 1.5 Ghz Dual Core Qualcomm, which is basically the same on both the Galaxy S2 and Amaze
many of those blog sites are waaaaaaaay outdated
I'll go for the Galaxy S2 (hercules) for the SAMOLED+ screen, the Amaze uses sLCD
other than that, both phone are almost identical
with minal difference in the battery the Hercules has 1850mAh can be upgraded to 2000 mAh (original by samsung) without changing battery cover, Amaze is 1730 (less juice)
more amaze details here http://htc.t-mobile.com/amaze-camera-phone
personally i'm going for the Galaxy S2 (hercules)
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HTC needs to stick with the people who made the Droid incredible 2 super lcd screen. Those displays are spectacular. I don't think I'll be going with the amaze 4g. Sense is nice the amaze has 3.5 sense no idea what's the difference between 3.0 and 3.5. I know partially that sense 3.5 doesn't have hardware limitations. Besides the screen size and the UI overlays the phones are the essentially the same. I'm still going for this phone so tired of HTC's hit and misses on phones.
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I agree the Amaze 4G is clearly a better phone but why is it SO FAT and heavy! Look at its dimensions...nearly a small brick in fatness and it weighs 176g without any sort of sliding keyboard or anything. It's weight is not even in battery as the battery is a 1730mah or 1750mah...not even the 1850mah that the Hercules has.
I'm a little dissappoint in the physical design on the phone. Wish Samsung would have crammed a 720p screen on the Hercules and then we would not even be talking about this. Sigh.
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So which is better? AMOLED plus or the LCD Screen? Both appear to have 1080 HD recording, but does the Amaze have better picture taking abilities? Finally, the Galaxy S II isn't listed as having NFC in its specs on the t-mobile website.
http://galaxy-s.t-mobile.com/samsung-galaxy-s2
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wait....
you are mixing up 2 things
SAMOLED+ vs. sLCD screens has nothing to do with 1080p Video Recording
a screen it's just a screen its function is only to display stuff, not record
the recording part is done by the camera and the video encoding chip inside the phone
as for the NFC it's part there it has been shown here, but it might or might not be right
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-T-Mobile_id5541
another source
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/17/unannounced-samsung-hercules-headed-to-t-mobile-bearing-godli/
HTC Amaze 4g
Hercules FTW
Hercules is better lower res means more speed bigger battery more use an upgradeable to 2000 an Samoled + an nice design an the have a better layout
dan1son said:
Both phones are officially coming out on October 12th, pre-sale online/phone on the 10th. Amaze is $259 after rebate, galaxy S II is $229.
Price difference aside... I have no idea which I'm going to buy yet. I really like my Vibrant and wouldn't really hesitate to buy another Samsung device. On the other side, I like the screen resolution on the Amaze.
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TBH - most of the reviews I've seen about the Sensation/Amaze screen state that they are inferior to the SGSII - regardless of the resolution. LCD is simply an inferior technology.

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