I would much rather have the Epic without the keyboard. When I switched from my mogul to my hero I thought dropping a keyboard would be hard, but it wasn't. Also the Galaxy S is SUPER thin, about as thin as the Iphone 4.
Anyone else on the same boat?
If they don't get the Galaxy S I'd probably just go with the epic.
For those wondering the Galaxy S has no keyboard (like the tmobile vibrant, it's also under 10mm thin) the Galaxy S pro (which is the Epic 4g has a keyboard).
Perhaps you can get the Verizon version working on Sprint. I've read that the retail on these devices is below $500.
But honestly, even if you do not use the keyboard, the added thickness is not that bad. This coming from a person who has a TouchPro2 and never used the physical keyboard.
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I would much rather have the Epic without the keyboard. When I switched from my mogul to my hero I thought dropping a keyboard would be hard, but it wasn't. Also the Galaxy S is SUPER thin, about as thin as the Iphone 4.
Anyone else on the same boat?
If they don't get the Galaxy S I'd probably just go with the epic.
For those wondering the Galaxy S has no keyboard (like the tmobile vibrant, it's also under 10mm thin) the Galaxy S pro (which is the Epic 4g has a keyboard).
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The Epic 4G is a Galaxy S phone lol
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Perhaps you can get the Verizon version working on Sprint. I've read that the retail on these devices is below $500.
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Will not happen (legally). Sprint and Verizon absolutely will not activate each others phones.
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The Epic 4G is a Galaxy S phone lol
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But it is totally different from all of the other Galaxy S variants. It was fairly obvious what he meant.
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But it is totally different from all of the other Galaxy S variants. It was fairly obvious what he meant.
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You're right, it's way better, full qwerty for those who want it, swype still installed for those who don't, 4G radio and a flash, yet still slim enough to contend with the likes of the Evo and such, oh wait who on earth wants anything OTHER than an Epic? lol
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You're right, it's way better, full qwerty for those who want it, swype still installed for those who don't, 4G radio and a flash, yet still slim enough to contend with the likes of the Evo and such, oh wait who on earth wants anything OTHER than an Epic? lol
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Well, besides the OP, me! I don't like hardware keyboards or the bulk that they bring. I would love to try out something as thin as the standard Galaxy S. I couldn't see myself ever typing with the hardware keyboard, so it would be a total waste.
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Well, besides the OP, me! I don't like hardware keyboards or the bulk that they bring. I would love to try out something as thin as the standard Galaxy S. I couldn't see myself ever typing with the hardware keyboard, so it would be a total waste.
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Ignore the hardware keyboard as I'm going to do and you have an Evo on steroids with a gorgeous screen. I don't do hardware keyboards either, but thick? It's about a quarter fingernail thicker than an Evo and 3x the phone the Evo will ever be without the help of any developer (you can't patch hardware). With custom ROMs this phone has the potencial to be the best "superphone" in the game until well into the end of the year and looking at how fast the smartphone market is moving that's saying alot.
Display-wise, this is going to be king of the hill until someone figures out how to get a Retina-quality IPS display on their phones. I would take Retina over Super AMOLED, but Samsung has a monopoly on Super AMOLED for quite a while into the future, and hteir phones are going to be the only ones that have it. I don't know if any other company is going to be able to get an IPS LCD that is as good as Apples while also being 4+" in size. For one thing, they will be very expensive and will probably experience shortages as all the different manufacturers clamor for them.
As for the CPU, the GS might get beat in the Spring, but not before then, and these processors are going to be pretty power hungry and more expensive to manufacture.
A new "superphone" with a 4" 300dpi IPS display and a dual core snapdragon will be big, expensive and power hungry. Basically, not something I would want to buy.
I am curious to see whether 28nm phone processors will be available by next summer, and whether Apple will be able to use one in the next iPhone. Something tells me they will just use another 45nm CPU and not bother to upgrade their A4 much at all.
Edit: Global Foundries will probably not be manufacturing at 28nm until 2012, which probably means that I am right about Apple not doing much with the next iPhone CPU.
Or maybe not. TSMC is supposed to be shipping 28nm right about now, designed for mobile applications.
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Ignore the hardware keyboard as I'm going to do and you have an Evo on steroids with a gorgeous screen. I don't do hardware keyboards either, but thick? It's about a quarter fingernail thicker than an Evo and 3x the phone the Evo will ever be without the help of any developer (you can't patch hardware). With custom ROMs this phone has the potencial to be the best "superphone" in the game until well into the end of the year and looking at how fast the smartphone market is moving that's saying alot.
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Sorry, it's hard for me to just ignore a large hardware component that actually affects the size and shape of the device. Especially when I know that without it the phone could be much thinner.
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Sorry, it's hard for me to just ignore a large hardware component that actually affects the size and shape of the device. Especially when I know that without it the phone could be much thinner.
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You're right that's why I returned my Evo it's much longer and wider than the Galaxy S is thicker than the Evo, just didn't feel good in the hand that's partially the reason I returned my Evo, well that compounded with the Evo's bad hardware.
The keyboard is the best part for me. I can't wait.
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I am thinking about switching teams to the Epic from the EVO. I love the development on the EVO, Cyanogen is just amazing. It's so lite and fast I love it.
The Epic calls because of features like S-AMOLED, physical keyboard!!!!, similar size, 45nm hummingbird and better battery life have me itching for this phone. The only think that would keep me in the EVO camp is that there is an uncertain path for development.
I have heard that in the past Samsung did not release open source drivers for their phones, but that in the case of the Galaxy S the drivers are out there(at least the international version)
What do people think? Will we see development for this phone? Cyanogen? What would you do?
I wouldn't mind the epic once it was able to be rooted and get that horrible launcher the heck off there.
I actually don't like physical keyboard...feels too much like a prepaid texter phone I guess =x just a matter of taste.
I'm absolutely satisfied with the EVO even if I do wish I could change several things about it. For me, I wouldn't change because I would have to pay full price, if I had an upgrade then maybe. I would possibly change to a phone that would get Android updates faster because as we know with the Hero/2.1 debacle, Sense UI makes things rough and even when the hero did get 2.1 ...it was a dumbed down version. I seriously hope our EVOs get better treatment.
Ultimately, I guess you have to maybe play with one and see how it feels to you.
One word...Samsung. Maybe Samsung will finally redeem themselves to me with this phone, but they have always given their phones poor support after release and in general been really crappy for hardcore enthusiasts. If this phone develops a large user development crowd, you will be safer. Either way your going to have monster hardware, what will the community and the support after the sale be like?
Have you tried swype? If not try it first and give it a few weeks to get used to it.
After using it I feel it makes physical keyboards obsolete.
Wasn't this topic beat to death like last week when someone was crying about leaving for an iphone?
Wrong word choice and misspelling courtesy of swype.
Slide-out hardware keyboards are crap in my experience. I will take Swype ANY DAY.
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who would ever want a physical keyboard again when we have Swype? no way you can type faster on a physical not to mention the extra bulk. with the evo's big screen there is no longer need for a physical keyboard - and this comes from someone who loved the tp2 keyboard.
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Wasn't this topic beat to death like last week when someone was crying about leaving for an iphone?
Wrong word choice and misspelling courtesy of swype.
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I was thinking the same thing. Just didn't want to say it and get the whole "don't be so mean" response
Sorry OP, but I wouldn't touch a phone with a physical keyboard anymore. No need when you have a freaking 4.3 inch screen
Get a second battery,u should get about 8 hours from each at the least. i get at least 10 hours. 1500mhz batteries just arent enough for a 4.3 inch android phone.blame htc for givin us this battery dont blame the phone plz. right now im on 7 hours and 40 minutes with 50% battery left
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Get a second battery,u should get about 8 hours from each at the least. i get at least 10 hours. 1500mhz batteries just arent enough for a 4.3 inch android phone.blame htc for givin us this battery dont blame the phone plz
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The Droid X apparently has much better battery life than the Evo, and it has a 4.3 display. Then again, that might be due to its 45nm processor vs the 65nm found on the Evo.
and ive been using a live wallpaper this whole time
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don't use your phone much as a phone eh?
The things I wouldn't want to give up on the Evo are:
The extra .3" of screen size -- it doesn't sound like much, but when you see the two side by side, the Evo screen isn't a little bigger, it's just flat out bigger.
I like Sense, and the home screen and app screen layouts are more my style.
The GPS on the Galaxy phones are reportedly poor. They lock on fewer satellites than the Evo does and are slow to do so.
I had a slider on the TP2, and I rarely used it. The keyboard on the 4.3" screen makes a physical keyboard only helpful in specific situations, and even RDP is fully functional and usable even without a physical keyboard. So I'd rather not have it and save on the bulk.
I also have zero interest in 3d gaming on the phone, so the 3d capabilities of the Hummingbird hold little interest for me. YMMV.
not today been sittin at home just texting mostly and some pandora and a homerun challenge orcourse and a few auto syncs
It really is up to you. Both are great phones. Personally I would go with the Evo. I wouldn't mind having the Samsung either though.
AFAIK all the Galaxy phones have been rooted no? Rooting the Epic shouldn't be much harder. Since the Evo has had such good development and a little experience with WiMax, should be easy to port over that development.
I am mulling over the same decision right now...
The big drawback for me is the display on the Epic... while it is true it is S-AMOLED and should provide more vibrant colors and such, the display itself is subject to burn in (not as much as AMOLED but still there) and the tech they use in the display makes it like half the effective resolution of what it really is... I can't remember the name of it right now... Its somewhere on the forums. I have seen a Galaxy S screen next to my Evo and its vibrant and bright but my Evo (Epson panel) is easier to see outdoors and text is much crisper on it.
Second, its a Samsung. I have never liked a single Samsung product I've tried from their TVs to their cell phones. While I would like to have a physical keyboard, the lack of support Samsung gives to their products sucks.
Third, yes the hummingbird and SGX540 absolutely spank everything else on the market right now... but dual-core snapdragons are coming and so is Tegra2. I would rather wait and see what happens than just jump from a phone that's working perfectly fine to another one with better specs... Only to kick myself in the balls come Christmas time.
Lastly, Sprint chopped the 16GB of storage to 2GB in their version which kills a main selling point for me. Internal storage tends to be much faster than a microSD card of ANY size.
The cyanogenmod will never be on the Galaxy S.
The Galaxy S will never be as snappy as the Evo.
And yes the hummingbird processor is much better than snapdragon and yes it does do graphics much better, but I'm running PSX4Droid right now FF7 maxed out what else more do you want from a phone lol...
Have fun supporting PS2 graphics...too bad nobody is developing anything and good luck when the phone comes out rooting / flashing custom roms.
But hey the phone is great you wouldn't be wrong getting it either but currently the evo looks better.
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The cyanogenmod will never be on the Galaxy S.
The Galaxy S will never be as snappy as the Evo.
And yes the hummingbird processor is much better than snapdragon and yes it does do graphics much better, but I'm running PSX4Droid right now FF7 maxed out what else more do you want from a phone lol...
Have fun supporting PS2 graphics...too bad nobody is developing anything and good luck when the phone comes out rooting / flashing custom roms.
But hey the phone is great you wouldn't be wrong getting it either but currently the evo looks better.
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When did Cyanogen say he won't release for the Galaxy S? Its a HUGE market base for Android since EVERY carrier will have a variant...
EDIT: Looking at the various Galaxy forums it looks like a community FroYo isn't going to be easy since the hardware info won't even boot in the emulator... Guess you're right.
But one more reason to get the Epic - it supports a crap ton of codecs out of the box and won't require most video files to be converted unlike the Evo.
Samsung is notorious for not supporting their devices after launch. Just look at Behold II users, Samsung promised 2.0/2.1 on video, then later pulled the video to remove any evidence of them saying that.
It's a great phone, just don't expect it to be supported down the road.
Probably been mentioned before, but I don't really care...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-us-carrier-names-revealed-atandt-attain-veri/
So I'm really reconsidering the EVO 3D now.
Hmm.. as much as I hate Samsung, that phone is beautiful. And if HTC is locking down the Evo 3D, I may actually have to purchase a Samsung.
It kind of hurts to say that.
Not me....its still a Samsung. 3d all day!!!
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Not me....its still a Samsung. 3d all day!!!
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If the 3D is locked down the way they say it is, flashaholics will either have to go through rehab, or get another maker's phone that isn't so locked down.
Yes. If the 3D is locked down. Coupled with Sammys new desire to change their bad rep.. with the Galaxy S looking to be one of the first phones officially Upgraded to GB. This phone is looking SO much better.
I just REALLY hope it doesn't have a crappy physical keyboard. I want it just the way it is. Sammy phones also have excellent battery life right out the box so waiting for a solid root method/custom roms/kernels won't be an issue.
3D is a gimmick at best. If the Samsung's battery life is significantly better than that of the EVO 3D, I'll have no choice. For me, personally, performance, battery life, and display quality are the most important things on a smartphone. The SII was overclocked to 1.5GHz yielding 4000+ Quadrant scores. That's impressive. The battery life is also pretty good coming from some reviews. I feel the 3D feature and camera on the new EVO will guzzle that battery. And I don't care how good qHD is, that Super AMOLED Plus 4.3" screen is pure sex. The slimness of the SII doesn't hurt either. I don't know about you, but I'm somewhat over my EVO's shape/style... hoping for something different and the EVO 3D doesn't really offer that.
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3D is a gimmick at best. If the Samsung's battery life is significantly better than that of the EVO 3D, I'll have no choice. For me, personally, performance, battery life, and display quality are the most important things on a smartphone. The SII was overclocked to 1.5GHz yielding 4000+ Quadrant scores. That's impressive. The battery life is also pretty good coming from some reviews. I feel the 3D feature and camera on the new EVO will guzzle that battery. And I don't care how good qHD is, that Super AMOLED Plus 4.3" screen is pure sex. The slimness of the SII doesn't hurt either. I don't know about you, but I'm somewhat over my EVO's shape/style... hoping for something different and the EVO 3D doesn't really offer that.
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While I agree about the 3D portion being a gimmick. It won't be killing the battery unless you're using it.. which is optional. I doubt people that think of it as a gimmick will use it much.
I am 100% with you on your points tho. Performance, battery life, display quality are most important. Samsung repairing their rep is also really starting to win me over. My mom has the mesmerize... that thing looks awesome and has excellent battery life. Plus she is about to get a GB update...
I love HTC.. but I just feel liek the new Sense 3.0 will bring the same poor battery life even with a bigger battery. It may be a little better.. but prolly not much. If the bootloader is encrypted.. then forget about it.
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Yes. If the 3D is locked down. Coupled with Sammys new desire to change their bad rep.. with the Galaxy S looking to be one of the first phones officially Upgraded to GB. This phone is looking SO much better.
I just REALLY hope it doesn't have a crappy physical keyboard. I want it just the way it is. Sammy phones also have excellent battery life right out the box so waiting for a solid root method/custom roms/kernels won't be an issue.
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That is the determining factor for me, if it does have a physical keyboard then count me out.
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That is the determining factor for me, if it does have a physical keyboard then count me out.
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Sadly, I agree with you.
I somehow don't think it will tho. The commercial I seen on youtube was showing off how thin it was by sliding it under a door... I would hope they don't plan on killing that by adding a keyboard.
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Probably been mentioned before, but I don't really care...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-us-carrier-names-revealed-atandt-attain-veri/
So I'm really reconsidering the EVO 3D now.
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What about this is "OFFICIAL"? Is it that it's coming to Sprint or the name? I read the link but didn't see an official source, sorry if I missed that.
I dont care if the 3D is locked down or not this will be my next phone. Thats all I needed to hear.
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What about this is "OFFICIAL"? Is it that it's coming to Sprint or the name? I read the link but didn't see an official source, sorry if I missed that.
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It's a picture of a case with it naming Sprint as one of the carriers for their device.... can't get much more official except for Sprint coming out and admitting to it
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It's a picture of a case with it naming Sprint as one of the carriers for their device.... can't get much more official except for Sprint coming out and admitting to it
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I made a case for it and it's going to be called the Samsung DooDooHead.
Official?
I'm pretty sure this will not have a physical keyboard, look at the case. Case in point (pun intended).
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This is one tempting phone. If it comes with no keyboard then that is my next phone. Pending a few months after release to see reviews and reliability on this sexy beast.
Nexus S looks so old now.....
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My next phone will either be this or the Nexus 3 depending on where it goes and when.
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This is one tempting phone. If it comes with no keyboard then that is my next phone. Pending a few months after release to see reviews and reliability on this sexy beast.
Nexus S looks so old now.....
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Yea it does lol it performs like a beast but not comparative to the S2 I will be returning my nexus s
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I'd take this over the 3d. HTC seems to always have battery issues with every phone, and I know they did with every phone I or a friend has had. Couple that with a locked down bootloader and this guy is going SGII (as long as the build quality is good).
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There is no physical keyboard, the phone is just 0.33 inches thick (Evo is 0.47"). You just had to click the link in the first article and you get a full review of the phone:
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There is no physical keyboard, the phone is just 0.33 inches thick (Evo is 0.47"). You just had to click the link in the first article and you get a full review of the phone:
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Yes, it was the same way on the Galaxy S 1. Once it came to the US, each major carrier got a different version. Verizon/Us Cellular looked about identical with AT&T varying only a little.
As we know, the Sprint Epic 4G was the bastard child of the galaxy S line... horrible.
So I'm positive everyone see's this question all the time. But they always judge it on the stock phones. Well I'm looking to get one of these phones, but to ROOT them. Which one do you believe I should get and why? I'm also looking into battery life even though buying an extended battery isn't a problem. Also which rom do you think is best for your pick? Thanks in advance.
Will be posting in both sides to get more answers
Epic 4g
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your second PWNED
LOL ^ 4th
Btw, I'd choose Epic over Shift.
You don't need more answers lol, just the 1st post, wait! And 2nd... yeah your going to need the 2nd one also.
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I would bet that the Epic would perform better and imo the keyboard is also better. Epic is easily rooted and has a nicer display. Easy pick.
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The epic pretty much is an all around better phone
An argument could be made on the SW side, but that falls by the wayside if you are not staying stock
Mainly, the EVO Shift is simply missing to many top level hardware items, that make it a upper mid range phone rather than the top tier the Epic is
I was faced with the same question when I bought not long ago.
Screen size favors Epic (4.0" - 3.6" That's a significant difference in Real Estate)
Screen brightness favors Epic (Samsungs Super AMOLED easily tops anything HTC has IMO)
Keyboard favors Epic (the larger size of the phone spaces the keys better, Epic has 5 rows including dedicated number row)
Processor favors the Epic (1.0 Ghz Hummingbird - 800 Mhz Snapdragon)
I believe rated battery stock time is 5.50 hrs for Epic to 6.00 for Shift.
Epic has front facing camera (which I never use, but some people do I'm sure)
The list goes on, but you can google other features.
As far as Flashing ROMs, I am NOT really tech savvy, but after reading through these forums I was not only able to root the phone quickly, but flashing was simple and I have found the ROMs I've used to be stable and functional with very few bugs. Can't beat that.
Epic, all the way.
Epic. Who ever choosed shift needs a swift kick in the wallnuts.
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So I'm positive everyone see's this question all the time. But they always judge it on the stock phones. Well I'm looking to get one of these phones, but to ROOT them. Which one do you believe I should get and why? I'm also looking into battery life even though buying an extended battery isn't a problem. Also which rom do you think is best for your pick? Thanks in advance.
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Even though i love my epic i would go with the shift because it has locked gps in a few seconds and capable of overclocking to 2.0Ghz and 1.6Ghz stable.
Its fun to use but i like epic 4g because of its screen. and Samsung is Easy to manipulate and easy to use like rooting and all that stuff.
But now its easy to get the Shift rooted in all.
I just like the bigger screen and AMOLED is deal breaker. i went with the shift at 1st because Samsung pissed me off as well as thousands more, with a certain phone.
Thanks everybody for your answers .. I'm leaning towards the Epic now.
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Even though i love my epic i would go with the shift because it has locked gps in a few seconds and capable of overclocking to 2.0Ghz and 1.6Ghz stable.
Its fun to use but i like epic 4g because of its screen. and Samsung is Easy to manipulate and easy to use like rooting and all that stuff.
But now its easy to get the Shift rooted in all.
I just like the bigger screen and AMOLED is deal breaker. i went with the shift at 1st because Samsung pissed me off as well as thousands more, with a certain phone.
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Yeah .. I'm leaning more towards the Epic though just because of the screen and 5 row keyboard.. But the thing I heard is that the Epic phones screen black out all the time, and I'm not going to have insurance or be on Sprint (flashing) .. And the HTC build quality is superior to Samsung. So I'm stuck.. any more suggestions?
I figured I would post this here, even though I also placed it in the troll thread, as it was having the same discussion
I haven't heard of the Epic screens blacking out, but mine has held up beyond belief, even after facing harsh abuse.
IMO, it is a not a "power/speed" issue that makes the EVO Shift a lesser phone, but the overall lack of top end hardware features, and those CAN'T be modded in later
Here are several reviews with the conclusions, as well as links to the original reviews, and the Epic is not just a winner, but a CLEAR winner in every case.
From Techd
You don’t have to imagine how two Android smartphones would perform when pitted against one another, as the folks at WireFly have done the deed. Pitting HTC EVO Shift 4G against the Samsung Epic 4G, the latter wins out big time.
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So, it seems like the EVO Shift 4G did admirably well for some basic processes, but stumbled badly when it comes to complex 3G graphics. But then again, it has a lower running processor than the Epic 4G with only 800MHz — though that’s not the end all be all performance measurement.
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4G Phone Fight: Evo Shift Battles Epic 4G
Avatar for Brian Barrett Brian Barrett —4G Phone Fight: Evo Shift Battles Epic 4G Let's say you want a 4G phone, because 4 is one more G than your current phone has. If you're deciding between Sprint's finest—the HTC Evo Shift and the Samsung Epic 4G—you're gonna want to watch this.
Both phones are sliders, both are on the same network, and by outward appearances seem pretty much identical. But! The Epic 4G, it turns out, is packing way more horses under the hood. As it should, considering it costs almost twice as much as the Shift.
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The Winner
Unlike other previous battles such as the HTC Thunderbolt vs. Motorola Droid Bionic battle, Samsung Epic 4Gthe HTC EVO Shift 4G vs. Samsung Epic 4G battle seems to have a pretty clear cut winner. The Samsung Epic 4G, even though it came out first, has huge advantages when it comes to display, and features while the HTC EVO Shift 4G manages to win a slight edge in design and software. Overall the advantages of the Samsung Epic 4G are too big to ignore and it easily comes out on top in this battle of 4G keyboard slider smartphones on Sprint.
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heres the thing though Shift is running 2nd Gen Snap. And even @ 800Mhz it pulls double score than Epic @1Ghz both on froyo.
Then Shift on 2.3 just blows the sh*t outta the Epic.
Newer Technology is better.
Older Technology is Wiser.
But in the end its all down to personal preference.
Just mess with both phones see what you really like and want.
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heres the thing though Shift is running 2nd Gen Snap. And even @ 800Mhz it pulls double score than Epic @1Ghz both on froyo.
Then Shift on 2.3 just blows the sh*t outta the Epic.
Newer Technology is better.
Older Technology is Wiser.
But in the end its all down to personal preference.
Just mess with both phones see what you really like and want.
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But official GB is just around the corner for the Epic (and already available if rooted). So with that, its still weigted twords the Epic imo.
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Thanks everybody for your answers .. I'm leaning towards the Epic now.
Yeah .. I'm leaning more towards the Epic though just because of the screen and 5 row keyboard.. But the thing I heard is that the Epic phones screen black out all the time, and I'm not going to have insurance or be on Sprint (flashing) .. And the HTC build quality is superior to Samsung. So I'm stuck.. any more suggestions?
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Never had my screen go black or anything at all for that matter, but that would be covered by manufactures warranty I think.
The screen is amazing.
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shawayne21 said:
Thanks everybody for your answers .. I'm leaning towards the Epic now.
Yeah .. I'm leaning more towards the Epic though just because of the screen and 5 row keyboard.. But the thing I heard is that the Epic phones screen black out all the time, and I'm not going to have insurance or be on Sprint (flashing) .. And the HTC build quality is superior to Samsung. So I'm stuck.. any more suggestions?
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What do you mean goes black out? like the power saving feature? you can set the timer on that...
As for build quality..who told you HTC phones have better build quality? that is a myth created because the samsung phones feel so light..the build quality is top notch, not to mention Gorilla Glass..
XxLostSoulxX said:
heres the thing though Shift is running 2nd Gen Snap. And even @ 800Mhz it pulls double score than Epic @1Ghz both on froyo.
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What scores? don't tell me quadrant/linpack...
gTen said:
What do you mean goes black out? like the power saving feature? you can set the timer on that...
As for build quality..who told you HTC phones have better build quality? that is a myth created because the samsung phones feel so light..the build quality is top notch, not to mention Gorilla Glass..
What scores? don't tell me quadrant/linpack...
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SmartBench 2010 and other various benchmarks but Quadrant does pull higher but thats not point. the point is its newer technology 45nm instead of 65nm.
Okay, I posted a very similar thread in the Epic 4G section. I don't often come to this forum.
It seems to me that looking at all of the new releases, with the possible exception of the Motorola Droid series (although it seems the Droid Razr is getting more hype than the Droid 3 did, so it may not even count as a flagship), is the era of flagship physical keyboard phones dead?
Noteworthy to me is the fact that other than the Desire Z (and the Desire HD was arguably the flagship of its time, although IMO the Z was a better phone), there have been no new keyboard flagship phones from HTC or Samsung or most of the smaller makers.
What do you think is the future of keyboard phones?
So far all of them seem to be decidedly mid-range devices, not phones that set the bar, so to speak.
G3. Can't have a google dev phone without a keyboard yet.
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Samsungs Captivate Glide looks very promising
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/14/samsung-captivate-glide-and-doubletime-hands-on/
but for now just in the US..
I was a Keyboard Smartphoner from the beginning, but now, I think on the bigger screens its more easier to type fast on a virtual keyboard.
Maybe my next Phone is no more equipped with a hardware keyboard.
first fact for this is the wight and the design.. 180g and 15mm is not so "smart"
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Samsungs Captivate Glide looks very promising
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/14/samsung-captivate-glide-and-doubletime-hands-on/
but for now just in the US..
I was a Keyboard Smartphoner from the beginning, but now, I think on the bigger screens its more easier to type fast on a virtual keyboard.
Maybe my next Phone is no more equipped with a hardware keyboard.
first fact for this is the wight and the design.. 180g and 15mm is not so "smart"
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I wish it would be more "mainstream", have a 720p screen and LTE support. I'll stick with my Desire Z for now.
i don't get the race to the flattest phone in the world, i would say give some extra fat for all those extremely flatty things and slap bigger battery in them.
Desire Z feels like a phone, i like the way its think, not too thick, and im fine whit the weight, people can't carry 200 grams whit em anymore?
There's Droid 4 coming, 5row qwerty, looks promising, hope they include atleast 1,2Ghz cpu. But at this moment i don't think im going to change to a new phone within a year. Ill hope HTC comes up whit 5 row G3.
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i don't get the race to the flattest phone in the world, i would say give some extra fat for all those extremely flatty things and slap bigger battery in them.
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I'm not too big on super thin either -idk what's with this trend.
So far mostly mid-range phones - Glide is a midrange; the Galaxy Note or HTC Rezound are more like top-end.
I personally prefer something a little thicker and heavier in my hands ;D
Jokes aside, the heaviness of the phone gives me the feel of a better build quality, as opposed to the cheap feel of the S II, which my gf has. So light it weighs next to nothing...
feels like the wind can just blow it away...
Yes i hate thin light phones! I want a brick phone damn it! Give me a big screen a good keyboard (im thinking G1 style but full width) and a nice thick heavy battery that will last all day. Oh and i want one of them fancy induction chargers built into the case. And a nice creditcard chip thingy.
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shortlived said:
Yes i hate thin light phones! I want a brick phone damn it! Give me a big screen a good keyboard (im thinking G1 style but full width) and a nice thick heavy battery that will last all day. Oh and i want one of them fancy induction chargers built into the case. And a nice creditcard chip thingy.
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Like a Galaxy Note with a Desire Z style keyboard?
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Like a Galaxy Note with a Desire Z style keyboard?
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OMG that would rock my socks. I wonder, is there maybe a proper sized BT keyboard and a case?
Check Adapt ADK-100 Micro Keyboard (Amazon ASIN B003ZWGEW8) saying it's exactly the size of an iPhone 4. this is a comparison with the HD2: images.mobilityminded.com/2010/07/IMG_4444.jpg
Also discussed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1327124
My opinion is riding a subway,bus etc. Qwerty wins. Physical buttons will always be superior and more versatile/precise.
I do think phones are crafted by trends, had the G2 originally been launched with a tighter spring, this phone would have sold like crazy.
Although I'm happy with my phone as I think its funny when I catch people looking at my phone wondering which one it is or why my screen is green.
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I'll stick with the Z for a long time before I move to something without a keyboard!
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Okay, I posted a very similar thread in the Epic 4G section. I don't often come to this forum.
It seems to me that looking at all of the new releases, with the possible exception of the Motorola Droid series (although it seems the Droid Razr is getting more hype than the Droid 3 did, so it may not even count as a flagship), is the era of flagship physical keyboard phones dead?
Noteworthy to me is the fact that other than the Desire Z (and the Desire HD was arguably the flagship of its time, although IMO the Z was a better phone), there have been no new keyboard flagship phones from HTC or Samsung or most of the smaller makers.
What do you think is the future of keyboard phones?
So far all of them seem to be decidedly mid-range devices, not phones that set the bar, so to speak.
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You seem to have missed the HTC DOUBLESHOT:
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones...px?cell-phone=T-Mobile-myTouch-4G-Slide-Black
I moved from the Desire to the Desire Z.
To me, a thin keyboard-less phone like the Desire is like an Aston Martin with a 1 litre engine in it. It may look nice but, it's missing the grunt to really get things done (functionality wise rather than cpu!).
With the Desire Z, I can snap open the keyboard and get far more screen real estate without having to have a software keyboard popping up. I can also do common tasks like copying and pasting faster and easily switch apps with shortcuts. I can pretty much touch type on my phone now, while walking for example without looking down.
Of course, we all know this, I just wish the public would realise the advantages of having a keyboard and then manufacturers would make more of an effort. Maybe if we all lectured friends, we can force a tipping point!
kabauterman said:
Samsungs Captivate Glide looks very promising
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/14/samsung-captivate-glide-and-doubletime-hands-on/
but for now just in the US..
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Well and at&t at that. Ugh.
The Glide has already been out in Canada for a couple weeks or so. Although Rogers is just as bad as AT&T probably.
Well, you got me there. Me and my brother enjoy the feel of keyboards on our phones. My G2 came across an lcd problem and my sister got me a G2x, good phone but couldn't enjoy the LG,since I'm an htc guy. Sold it,got a sidekick 4G, didn't like the way samsung made it. Sold that, bought a new LCD, fixed my G2. At the end of the day, I'm a Qwerty keyboard HTC guy. As for my bro, a HTC mytouch guy, he loves the Mytouch Slide 4G. We both came from a G1. I'm praying for the G3. *fingers crossed*
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What I'm hoping for in the next year:
1.2 ghz dual core minimum
5 inch screen (4.5 inch minimum)
Qwerty 3-4 row I don't care
Hdmi out
Not samsung (wii controller won't work)
Must have decent battery life, most liekly ill be buying another fat mugen lol
preferred htc but its not really a big deal to me
Don't care about thick or thin
Honestly the desire z handles everything but the screen size and hdmi out want my n64 on the big screen! I'm hoping for gamecube/dreamcast emulators in the next years. These overclocked dual cores can easily handle it.
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scottmog said:
What I'm hoping for in the next year:
1.2 ghz dual core minimum
5 inch screen (4.5 inch minimum)
Qwerty 3-4 row I don't care
Hdmi out
Not samsung (wii controller won't work)
Must have decent battery life, most liekly ill be buying another fat mugen lol
preferred htc but its not really a big deal to me
Don't care about thick or thin
Honestly the desire z handles everything but the screen size and hdmi out want my n64 on the big screen! I'm hoping for gamecube/dreamcast emulators in the next years. These overclocked dual cores can easily handle it.
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You couldn't PAY me to use a phone with a 5" screen. Screen ***ABSOLUTELY MUST*** be UNDER 4". Any bigger than that and it isn't a phone -- its a tablet, and no, I'm not interested in holding a tablet up to my head to make a phone call.
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You couldn't PAY me to use a phone with a 5" screen. Screen ***ABSOLUTELY MUST*** be UNDER 4". Any bigger than that and it isn't a phone -- its a tablet, and no, I'm not interested in holding a tablet up to my head to make a phone call.
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Cool, wasn't really asking for anyones opinion. Some people just don't like big phones, I love big phones and surf the internet and play games quite often. I don't wear tight jeans too lol, so 5 inch phones would not really be to big.
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What do you want to see if HTC bring out a hardware keyboard phone? Also names and any news.
Personal I would want qHD screen, terga 3 CPU, + GPU, 4G, sense/ics 4.0?, better speakers, 1900 mha battery, 16GB on broad memory, 2GB RAM,
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QWERTY keyboard phones are unfortunately out of style nowadays. Moto Droid/Milestone is pretty much the only keyboard phone series with modern specs available at least over here. Samsung Captivate Glide seems intriguing with its dual core CPU and AMOLED display but it's US only.
If you are really looking for Sense, it's unfortunate that there are no rumors or leaks or anything about a HTC QWERTY flagship.
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QWERTY keyboard phones are unfortunately out of style nowadays.
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So says you. Although declining, Blackberries still sell and I refuse to buy anything that does not have a physical QWERTY keyboard.
user032 said:
QWERTY keyboard phones are unfortunately out of style nowadays. Moto Droid/Milestone is pretty much the only keyboard phone series with modern specs available at least over here. Samsung Captivate Glide seems intriguing with its dual core CPU and AMOLED display but it's US only.
If you are really looking for Sense, it's unfortunate that there are no rumors or leaks or anything about a HTC QWERTY flagship.
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That's not true. There clearly are people out there eagerly waiting for new QWERTY-phones, otherwise e.g. Sony Ericsson wouldn't sell Xperia pro and Mini pro etc. Nokia has released a few phones with QWERTY keyboard and as you said Motorola has Droids too.
Does anyone know how many Visions has been sold? HTC has always made qwerty-phones, I can't see any reason why they should stop now.
A QWERTY Nexus would be nice - death to Sense. When I owned a Desire Z rooting and going to an AOSP Gingerbread DOUBLED my battery life.
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I would like to see more internal memory, better speakers, a better screen and I would like to see them keep the touch sensitive "trackball" button at the bottom of the phone!
to me, the only thing that matters is to make the soft buttons as hardware buttons, not the irritating touch
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I'd love a 1080p screen, gorilla glass, tegra 3, 64gb internal, ICS of course, 4G, an INSANE camera, and no matter the mah a battery to hold it all together for 14+ hours at heavy use.
But that's just me.
let me not forget to say vanilla android!
mintaeroboy said:
What do you want to see if HTC bring out a hardware keyboard phone? Also names and any news.
Personal I would want qHD screen, terga 3 CPU, + GPU, 4G, sense/ics 4.0?, better speakers, 1900 mha battery, 16GB on broad memory, 2GB RAM,
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4.0" 720p screen, Qualcomm krait + adreno 225, pentaband 3g, AOSP ICS, 2GB ram, 16GB ROM + SD card, 5 row QWERTY with directional keys or D-pad, dedicated camera button, metal back cover with release lever.
hey, I can dream right?
I want an HTC device, built as solid and of as good quality as this one with updated Rezound like features. Not going to happen though, HTC has successfully grabbed a large portion of the market due to their past quality and has since shifted from quality to quantity.
does the HTC Mytouch 4G Slide come 2 mind?
riahc3 said:
So says you. Although declining, Blackberries still sell and I refuse to buy anything that does not have a physical QWERTY keyboard.
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It's not my personal opinion, just look at the current phone market with slates everywhere. For one, I'd love a powerful QWERTY smartphone to replace my current primary phone GSII, which was by the way the first non-keyboard one.
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That's not true. There clearly are people out there eagerly waiting for new QWERTY-phones, otherwise e.g. Sony Ericsson wouldn't sell Xperia pro and Mini pro etc. Nokia has released a few phones with QWERTY keyboard and as you said Motorola has Droids too.
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Aren't most of these are mid-range phones with the exception of Droid?
At least I'm not the only one that feels a bit lonely out here.
Android phones are being pumped out by the dozen, but there are very few QWERTY phones in the mix. I could probably count them all on one hand. Everyone uses either a GSM or CDMA network, so your options are halved right there as well
The only quality phones I have seen maybe worth trading my G2 in for, are the MyTouch 4G Slide and the Samsung Captivate Glide.
But they are still fairly new phones with no CM support yet....
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to me, the only thing that matters is to make the soft buttons as hardware buttons, not the irritating touch
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If that's what you want, then the 4G Slide is your only option. It's one of the only phones that still retains hardware keys.
I actually prefer hardware keys as well. But the 4G Slide wasn't out at the time, and I needed a little more horsepower than the 3G Slide I was carrying...
Damnit! this is just wishful thinking lol! I thought there was some news of the G3/Desire Super Z or something Didn't we already have a wish list thread for the next big HTC qwerty model?
I do wonder about when it will happen. In tech terms, our great Desire Z/G2 is extremely antiquated. It does seem to be taking too long but the same happened with the G1. The only decent option I've seen is the MT4GS and that only a US model. Can't really compare a Samsung model because they are junk compared to their flagship models like the Galaxy line.
Even those... I'm hardly interested in those. Lack of led for battery/notifications, trackpad/ball, and plastic-ish build is too much for me to consider. Plus, even though I'm in the US, the MT4GS have literally 5 pages in the development section and has little dev support. All this is starting to get me worried! I don't think I can hold up much longer without a new phone lol! It's been way too long! I LOVE my G2 still but would love a dual core model with MORE RAM and stuff. Sino8r is getting anxious!
Plus, y'all are forgetting the Samsung Captivate Glide is only on AT&T in the US. That means no 3G. Stupid US carriers and billions of different frequencies.
It will be very interesting to see where all the G2 owners go when they need a new device. But as long as the dev scene is still hot here, I see no real reason to leave just yet. IF the 4G Slide starts to pick up once ICS is released, then I may consider it.
It's remarkable, the prices for that phone have already dropped as well to $250. Waiting for it to get around the $200 mark, and then I'll bite.
BTW, anyone looking for the absolute best value QWERTY phone, you can pick up a brand new 3G Slide from eBay for $140. And if you go through auctions, you can get it for less than that. Astonishing, considering G1 phones are going for just $30 less. Obviously all without contract.
(PS, this is not an advertisement or plug. Just a suggestion)
The droid 4 looks promising. Really love the design and the idea of a back lit keyboard. Just hoping that they will have GSM bands with the phone. Fingers crossed!
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does the HTC Mytouch 4G Slide come 2 mind?
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I was just about to mention that. Remap the Genius button into Search, flash one of undeadk9's "Sense lite" ROMs (posted on RootzWiki), flash unity's overclock kernel, buy an Anker 1900mAh battery or two, and this phone is a BEAST.
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Maybe we should just make one? Like miui did with the mx
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mintaeroboy said:
Maybe we should just make one? Like miui did with the mx
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Like Geeksphone? That's actually a good idea. Anyone know of anybody who can actually build a GSM cell phone that can work on both T-Mobile and Ma Bell?
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Like Geeksphone? That's actually a good idea. Anyone know of anybody who can actually build a GSM cell phone that can work on both T-Mobile and Ma Bell?
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The Chinese
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