Probably been mentioned before, but I don't really care...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-us-carrier-names-revealed-atandt-attain-veri/
So I'm really reconsidering the EVO 3D now.
Hmm.. as much as I hate Samsung, that phone is beautiful. And if HTC is locking down the Evo 3D, I may actually have to purchase a Samsung.
It kind of hurts to say that.
Not me....its still a Samsung. 3d all day!!!
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Not me....its still a Samsung. 3d all day!!!
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If the 3D is locked down the way they say it is, flashaholics will either have to go through rehab, or get another maker's phone that isn't so locked down.
Yes. If the 3D is locked down. Coupled with Sammys new desire to change their bad rep.. with the Galaxy S looking to be one of the first phones officially Upgraded to GB. This phone is looking SO much better.
I just REALLY hope it doesn't have a crappy physical keyboard. I want it just the way it is. Sammy phones also have excellent battery life right out the box so waiting for a solid root method/custom roms/kernels won't be an issue.
3D is a gimmick at best. If the Samsung's battery life is significantly better than that of the EVO 3D, I'll have no choice. For me, personally, performance, battery life, and display quality are the most important things on a smartphone. The SII was overclocked to 1.5GHz yielding 4000+ Quadrant scores. That's impressive. The battery life is also pretty good coming from some reviews. I feel the 3D feature and camera on the new EVO will guzzle that battery. And I don't care how good qHD is, that Super AMOLED Plus 4.3" screen is pure sex. The slimness of the SII doesn't hurt either. I don't know about you, but I'm somewhat over my EVO's shape/style... hoping for something different and the EVO 3D doesn't really offer that.
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3D is a gimmick at best. If the Samsung's battery life is significantly better than that of the EVO 3D, I'll have no choice. For me, personally, performance, battery life, and display quality are the most important things on a smartphone. The SII was overclocked to 1.5GHz yielding 4000+ Quadrant scores. That's impressive. The battery life is also pretty good coming from some reviews. I feel the 3D feature and camera on the new EVO will guzzle that battery. And I don't care how good qHD is, that Super AMOLED Plus 4.3" screen is pure sex. The slimness of the SII doesn't hurt either. I don't know about you, but I'm somewhat over my EVO's shape/style... hoping for something different and the EVO 3D doesn't really offer that.
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While I agree about the 3D portion being a gimmick. It won't be killing the battery unless you're using it.. which is optional. I doubt people that think of it as a gimmick will use it much.
I am 100% with you on your points tho. Performance, battery life, display quality are most important. Samsung repairing their rep is also really starting to win me over. My mom has the mesmerize... that thing looks awesome and has excellent battery life. Plus she is about to get a GB update...
I love HTC.. but I just feel liek the new Sense 3.0 will bring the same poor battery life even with a bigger battery. It may be a little better.. but prolly not much. If the bootloader is encrypted.. then forget about it.
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Yes. If the 3D is locked down. Coupled with Sammys new desire to change their bad rep.. with the Galaxy S looking to be one of the first phones officially Upgraded to GB. This phone is looking SO much better.
I just REALLY hope it doesn't have a crappy physical keyboard. I want it just the way it is. Sammy phones also have excellent battery life right out the box so waiting for a solid root method/custom roms/kernels won't be an issue.
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That is the determining factor for me, if it does have a physical keyboard then count me out.
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That is the determining factor for me, if it does have a physical keyboard then count me out.
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Sadly, I agree with you.
I somehow don't think it will tho. The commercial I seen on youtube was showing off how thin it was by sliding it under a door... I would hope they don't plan on killing that by adding a keyboard.
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Probably been mentioned before, but I don't really care...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-us-carrier-names-revealed-atandt-attain-veri/
So I'm really reconsidering the EVO 3D now.
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What about this is "OFFICIAL"? Is it that it's coming to Sprint or the name? I read the link but didn't see an official source, sorry if I missed that.
I dont care if the 3D is locked down or not this will be my next phone. Thats all I needed to hear.
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What about this is "OFFICIAL"? Is it that it's coming to Sprint or the name? I read the link but didn't see an official source, sorry if I missed that.
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It's a picture of a case with it naming Sprint as one of the carriers for their device.... can't get much more official except for Sprint coming out and admitting to it
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It's a picture of a case with it naming Sprint as one of the carriers for their device.... can't get much more official except for Sprint coming out and admitting to it
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I made a case for it and it's going to be called the Samsung DooDooHead.
Official?
I'm pretty sure this will not have a physical keyboard, look at the case. Case in point (pun intended).
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This is one tempting phone. If it comes with no keyboard then that is my next phone. Pending a few months after release to see reviews and reliability on this sexy beast.
Nexus S looks so old now.....
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My next phone will either be this or the Nexus 3 depending on where it goes and when.
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This is one tempting phone. If it comes with no keyboard then that is my next phone. Pending a few months after release to see reviews and reliability on this sexy beast.
Nexus S looks so old now.....
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Yea it does lol it performs like a beast but not comparative to the S2 I will be returning my nexus s
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I'd take this over the 3d. HTC seems to always have battery issues with every phone, and I know they did with every phone I or a friend has had. Couple that with a locked down bootloader and this guy is going SGII (as long as the build quality is good).
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There is no physical keyboard, the phone is just 0.33 inches thick (Evo is 0.47"). You just had to click the link in the first article and you get a full review of the phone:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/
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There is no physical keyboard, the phone is just 0.33 inches thick (Evo is 0.47"). You just had to click the link in the first article and you get a full review of the phone:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/
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Yes, it was the same way on the Galaxy S 1. Once it came to the US, each major carrier got a different version. Verizon/Us Cellular looked about identical with AT&T varying only a little.
As we know, the Sprint Epic 4G was the bastard child of the galaxy S line... horrible.
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Curious as to what everyone thinks
I am thinking of switching to the EPIC and giving my wife the evo ... The Epic seems awesome... Need to see how out turns out though
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i think its too early to tell, i mean the evo has been rooted already and will continue to be supported in a pretty big way by the devs here, theres no telling if the samsung will have the same level of rootability.
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i think its too early to tell, i mean the evo has been rooted already and will continue to be supported in a pretty big way by the devs here, theres no telling if the samsung will have the same level of rootability.
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True..it's just that screen and the processing power with the gyroscope of the epic is very tempting..
Give up an 8MP camera for a QWERTY keyboard... Nah, not worth it.
Gonna go ahead and keep my EVO for a while.
Yeah because our 8mp camera is just soo amazing...
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Heh the evo's camera sucks.
Anyway, I'll hold into my evo until it launches sometime in the future and I'll probably pick it up. Looks to soundly beat the evo and the droid x. At least its already rooted the only issue will be samsungs encoded drivers.
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Yeah because our 8mp camera is just soo amazing...
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Better than the 5MP I upgraded from when I switched from my Hero... Oh wait, that's the same camera on the Epic.
The EPIC is EVO Jr. EVO is the best phone on the market, even better than the iPhone 4.
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Better than the 5MP I upgraded from when I switched from my Hero... Oh wait, that's the same camera on the Epic.
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Comparing the hero's 5mp camera to the epics is just not a fair fight
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The EPIC is EVO Jr. EVO is the best phone on the market, even better than the iPhone 4.
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Care to clarify as to why or how the evo is better??
I dont like how the samsung epic looks ..so no nor i like the iphone look they gave
The evo is better because its in my hands!
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The evo is better because its in my hands!
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I must agree
I don't know, spec-wise the epic is pretty compelling.
The 5MP camera will look better than the evos because the lower mp sensor will undoubtedly have less grain and better low-light pictures.
The qwerty is welcome, im not sure about the size but it's good news to me that it wont be as large as the evo in wideness.
I love the 4.3" screen on my evo, but 4" sounds like a great tradeoff.
It will surely fit better in the hand, which is very welcome for me.
The hummingbird IS a better processor.. GPU is great. End of story.
Super AMOLED is the best screen technology in the mobile biz. End of story.
The samsung is a better phone.
That said i will probably keep my evo because it looks so much better. LOL
If the framerate issues are fixed and froyo comes along quickly there isn't much of a reason to return the evo.
Either way i'm happy, but my 30-day window is ending soon and there isn't much news about when the Epic will arrive.
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I don't know, spec-wise the epic is pretty compelling.
The 5MP camera will look better than the evos because the lower mp sensor will undoubtedly have less grain and better low-light pictures.
The qwerty is welcome, im not sure about the size but it's good news to me that it wont be as large as the evo in wideness.
I love the 4.3" screen on my evo, but 4" sounds like a great tradeoff.
It will surely fit better in the hand, which is very welcome for me.
The hummingbird IS a better processor.. GPU is great. End of story.
Super AMOLED is the best screen technology in the mobile biz. End of story.
The samsung is a better phone.
That said i will probably keep my evo because it looks so much better. LOL
If the framerate issues are fixed and froyo comes along quickly there isn't much of a reason to return the evo.
Either way i'm happy, but my 30-day window is ending soon and there isn't much news about when the Epic will arrive.
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very good points..the only thing bothering me is as you said there is no release date, but i think i might take my chances and wait
The Galaxy S model will be released on every carrier, so the Epic will have plenty of support, if not more than the EVO. The specs are undoubtedly better than the EVO's in almost every way. The 45nm processor especially stands out since will mean better battery life.
I need to buy the EVO as soon as it comes back in stock, so I hope the Epic is released within my 30-day window in case I want to exchange.
EDIT: I just saw a video ( youtube (dot) com/watch?v=x31Tl4_F1Wo ) of Touchwiz and it looks TERRIBLE, even though the iPhone-like icons aren't bad. Unless TW can be easily disabled, I'm going with the EVO.
I use launcherpro anyways and it helps alot
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I use launcherpro anyways and it helps alot
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I just discovered LauncherPro today and I have to say it's amazing! The ability to save your screen from notification bar burn alone is worth it!
Feels like I have a brand new phone today...
i would never return an htc phone for a samsung.. im an htc guy!
My upgrade comes through on March 1st.. I've looked into each of these phones with great detail. This is what I've come up with in a nutshell. And I want everyone's professional opinion as ill be using this phone for a year or two.. thx guys and gals..(is there a girl on xda yet? ;p)
Stock pros of shift: pocket friendly, higher quality exterior, possibly more support on xda, I heart HTC.
Stock pros of epic 4g: better battery life, amoled screen, front facing camera, video card for twice the gaming potential
Both are 99.00 on Amazon with upgrade eligibility (so is the evo, but I don't need a tablet just yet, 4" is quite enough for me) .. I use sprint im not switching its cheap.. I'd rather have a steak then slightly improved cell service. I have wifi at home anyways..
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My wife has a shift and I have an Epic. Her phone is more stable and her camera takes noticeably better pictures. The keyboard is also better on the shift as sometimes the keys skip on the Epic. As far as froyo is concerned it is much more stable on the Shift as well.
When on the shift section of xda I noticed a lot of people got the phone for their wives and not for themselves. They say games don't run as smoothe on the shift such as psx rom.games. and there is no phone on the market that I've layed my hands on that has a prettier screen than the epic. The colors are just plain and simply better. The phone isn't the eye catcher the epic is
I would go personally with the Epic in hopes of sprint and Samsung getting their act together and fixing the numerous bugs that are associated with it. You'll definetely have a love hate relationship with the epic but I believe in the long run you'll be better off with it.
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At this point id say wait for the next round of phones as there'll be dual core options. Also, my gil has the evo and i the epic and they are about the same size overall, not too much difference.
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At this point id say wait for the next round of phones as there'll be dual core options. Also, my gil has the evo and i the epic and they are about the same size overall, not too much difference.
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If you can wait for the next round of phones I would, since they'll probably be out this summer. If you can't, the Epic is a good phone. I'm currently on EB 13 and I did a fresh install and then loaded all of my apps manually. There's still problems with the sport mode in the camera, Time without signal (TWS) being high unless you do the airplane mode toggle, and the camcorder being a little sluggish in low light. These aren't deal breakers for me, because I don't really use the phone for low light recordings or sport mode and I'm fine toggling the airplane mode. However, it would be nice to have this fixed. I haven't experienced any of the other bugs people have claimed, so I'm still very happy with the performance of EB 13, but I'm not holding my breath for a fix. I mainly stay on EB 13 because the battery life for me is drastically better than 2.1 and the performance is no worst than 2.1. The screen is a lot better as well.
Like I said before, I hope they fix the problems, but I wouldn't buy a phone assuming they will......
IMO, it all boils down to this..
If you want a KB, get the Epic, if you don't get the EVO
The EVO shift is simply not a high end phone, no matter how it was marketed.
It is not a matter of speed, but just a lack of to many high end features.
I would really say it boils down to you really wanting to mod it I have an epic and I've been pretty happy with having it rommed to froyo until. Although some of the hardware glitches or software do kinda get annoying. I still think it's pretty descent.
The shift I'm assuming is a descent phone as well and I heard the keyboard is way better then epic, so it really comes down to preference I really think.
Best advice I can say is go to the sprint store and play with both of them for about 30 minutes, like literally 30 minutes.
I own both. Epic has a nicer screen and is faster for games. Shift seems to be better for literally everything else.
But if you like to tweak endlessly, Epic may be more your speed.
Epic by a gazillian times. The screen is simply amazing! And the gpu screams. Along froyo with ext filesystem, it even beats the super dual core tegra Atrix phone. Trust me... Epic is hands down best. I owned a Evo and a shift. Both underperform compared to Epic.
Thanks a lot guys after reading I think I may just wait for next row of phones.. when do you think they'll come out?
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Brah the epic is a MAN PHONE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UB2DtU0UOo
The shift is something I would recommend to my grandma. though i wouldn't recommend a android phone to any tech impaired person( as my grandma is, fuuuu dont even get me started.)
From what it seems, the Shift is a less expensive/toned-down alternative to the Epic and Evo. So you're more or less comparing two differently classed phones.
Also, I love the keyboard on the epic. It's very roomy and comfortable, especially with its five rows. Plus, the Super AMOLED screen is gorgeous and a serious selling point. And regarding support on XDA, the Epic has nearly 10 times more threads and posts in each sub-forum.
I've never actually owned a Shift, but just from the numbers it seems the Epic is a much better deal, especially since they are the same price on Amazon. But waiting for Sprint's next lineup of Android phones seems like a good choice as well.
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There's still problems with the sport mode in the camera... and the camcorder being a little sluggish in low light.
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Not sure if it makes a difference to you or not, but thete is now a fix fir the cameta issues in eb13. Keepin' the faith that sprint will release a more stable update soon. In the mean time get the epic and trust in the great devs we have here.
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Not sure if it makes a difference to you or not, but thete is now a fix fir the cameta issues in eb13. Keepin' the faith that sprint will release a more stable update soon. In the mean time get the epic and trust in the great devs we have here.
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Lol screw samsung and sprint for updates. Devs for the win.
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Shift out performs evo.. epic has it beat on the graphics end. at least according to benchmark apps. I think I'm going to go with the shift for now... ill just add another line late this summer to try and get another phone..
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From what it seems, the Shift is a less expensive/toned-down alternative to the Epic and Evo. So you're more or less comparing two differently classed phones.
Also, I love the keyboard on the epic. It's very roomy and comfortable, especially with its five rows. Plus, the Super AMOLED screen is gorgeous and a serious selling point. And regarding support on XDA, the Epic has nearly 10 times more threads and posts in each sub-forum.
I've never actually owned a Shift, but just from the numbers it seems the Epic is a much better deal, especially since they are the same price on Amazon. But waiting for Sprint's next lineup of Android phones seems like a good choice as well.
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sent from my hero aosp2.2 cause aospcm7 2.3 was not as fast or stable for me.
Heavy
I've had the Epic and the Evo, not the Shift tho. But I've played with the Shift for a while and one thing that surprises me is HOW HEAVY it is! For the weight difference, I'd almost just get the Epic. Regardless... if you want a billion ROM's that's hard to decipher and just really be confused most of the time, get an HTC. Tho, I will say their stock ROM's hand Samy's rear to them. The build quality on all three phones I would say are on par with each other.
The GPS on the Evo is AMAZING! I ALWAYS get a quick lock (within 5-10 seconds of opening up maps), and after 15-20 seconds, it's accurate to 3m (9 feet!), the Epic, not so much. After about 30 seconds, it'd lock, and only be accurate to 20m (60 feet!?!). As for using navigation on the phone, again, I would buy a garmin or tom-tom before I'd use the Epic's navigation.
Bottom line, yeah, if you need a phone that just works, any HTC is the way to go. BUT, the screen, size of keyboard, how good it plays games, did I mention the screen quality? are unmatched on the Epic. Hardware-wise (beyond maybe the GPS), the Epic is unbeaten.
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Shift out performs evo.. epic has it beat on the graphics end. at least according to benchmark apps. I think I'm going to go with the shift for now... ill just add another line late this summer to try and get another phone..
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The answers to all of your questions in this thread. A very nice debate between some of us hardware nuts. (I won. )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907182
noskoviak said:
Shift out performs evo.. epic has it beat on the graphics end. at least according to benchmark apps. I think I'm going to go with the shift for now... ill just add another line late this summer to try and get another phone..
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Untrue. Stop using Quadrant and Linpack (outdated benchmarks that are optimized for Snapdragon) and you'll see that it is simply not the case.
MHz for MHz, the Qualcomm MSM SoCs are slightly more powerful than the Hummingbird, but at 800 MHz they still fall behind the 1 GHz S5PC110.
I was using smartbench what do u think of that one?
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I got the shift by the way... and I'm am loving it. Superior device imo.
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Shift is good, but the epic is on a whole other level, in terms of hardware. Stock the shift has the better software, but if your going to mod your phone with some of the awesome xda dev software.......that's where you'll see what I mean by being on a whole other level. Don't wait to long to trade your new shift in and get a real upgrade
Whos going with whut if thet are both coming to sprint
And why isnt the gs2 the nexus s btw. ?
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The Galaxy s2 has a built in water fountain that shoots out Hawaiian punch. The nexus s does not.
GSII For the winnnn.
Oh, and in other news, OSAMA'S DEATH. BOOYAH
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GSII For the winnnn.
Oh, and in other news, OSAMA'S DEATH. BOOYAH
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The fact that anyone is still considering a Samsung Phone after the update mess reinforces my theory that people love to be screwed over by companies.
And the Osama is a good news bad thing.
On one hand he's dead, on the other it doesn't change anything for anyone and he will be seen as a martyr by his supporters.
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The fact that anyone is still considering a Samsung Phone after the update mess reinforces my theory that people love to be screwed over by companies.
And the Osama is a good news bad thing.
On one hand he's dead, on the other it doesn't change anything for anyone and he will be seen as a martyr by his supporters.
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Ya they can speak for themselves. I'm never getting another samsung phone again.
They have awesome hardware, but the software and cust support blows. And stupid things that should be perfected like registering every button on a keyboard or working led lights or a kickstand, shouldn't be an issue on 500 dollar phone.
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If they dont screw us over with variants samsungs support wont suck as much
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The fact that anyone is still considering a Samsung Phone after the update mess reinforces my theory that people love to be screwed over by companies.
And the Osama is a good news bad thing.
On one hand he's dead, on the other it doesn't change anything for anyone and he will be seen as a martyr by his supporters.
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@the Samsung part, I honestly can't really decide. The GSII is just nice, in my opinion, and I know about the update mayhem but the fact that we've gotten a leak for Gingerbread this quickly gives me a bit hope for the moment.
The Evo 3D is a great phone, and honestly the only reason I didn't choose it was because I like the new TW4.0. Specs wise, Evo 3D wins hands down. But just remember, it's all opinion.
@Osama, yeah, his supporters could be a problem, but without a leader still helps. I mean, after Hitler's suicide (even though it was around the same time as the war ended), his supporters seemed to fade. I don't know; we can only hope for the best and that the death was fortunate.
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@the Samsung part, I honestly can't really decide. The GSII is just nice, in my opinion, and I know about the update mayhem but the fact that we've gotten a leak for Gingerbread this quickly gives me a bit hope for the moment.
The Evo 3D is a great phone, and honestly the only reason I didn't choose it was because I like the new TW4.0. Specs wise, Evo 3D wins hands down. But just remember, it's all opinion.
@Osama, yeah, his supporters could be a problem, but without a leader still helps. I mean, after Hitler's suicide (even though it was around the same time as the war ended), his supporters seemed to fade. I don't know; we can only hope for the best and that the death was fortunate.
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Samsung hasn't done much to prove that they will be able to put enough pressure on Carriers to test updates to get them to users in a timely manner.
Hitler's suicide was a completely different scenario, a country/regime cannot function without some sort of leader, terrorist/guerilla groups can simply fracture and are largely self-sufficient cells.
Also Hitler's supporters didn't so much fade as flee to South America and try to start a fourth reich, just sayin'.
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Samsung hasn't done much to prove that they will be able to put enough pressure on Carriers to test updates to get them to users in a timely manner.
Hitler's suicide was a completely different scenario, a country/regime cannot function without some sort of leader, terrorist/guerilla groups can simply fracture and are largely self-sufficient cells.
Also Hitler's supporters didn't so much fade as flee to South America and try to start a fourth reich, just sayin'.
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I guess you're right on both parts. But hey, I'm only 14, so I'm trying my best here to comprehend
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@the Samsung part, I honestly can't really decide. The GSII is just nice, in my opinion, and I know about the update mayhem but the fact that we've gotten a leak for Gingerbread this quickly gives me a bit hope for the moment.
The Evo 3D is a great phone, and honestly the only reason I didn't choose it was because I like the new TW4.0. Specs wise, Evo 3D wins hands down. But just remember, it's all opinion.
@Osama, yeah, his supporters could be a problem, but without a leader still helps. I mean, after Hitler's suicide (even though it was around the same time as the war ended), his supporters seemed to fade. I don't know; we can only hope for the best and that the death was fortunate.
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Spec wise the evo 3d wins hands down?? How??
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Spec wise the evo 3d wins hands down?? How??
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Okay well maybe a tie.
GSII has a better resolution and thinness, but the evo 3D DOES have 3D, and I've seen how well that works xD.
Then again...the evo 3d has only 8 GB storage on the sd card. Dammit, I gotta word these things better. ._.
Otherwise, same similar 1.2GHz dual-core proccessor, 8 MP camera, etc
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Evo 3D has a higher resolution.
960 x 540 vs 800 x 480.
Performance wise the Evo 3D pulls ahead in some tests while the Galaxy S pulls ahead in some, its mostly a toss up. The difference is nowhere near 1st gen snapdragon vs hummingbird.
I'm pretty sure S2 will kick harder, but Evo's 3D features + higher res screen + the fact that 1st Evo had one of the greatest dev-communities makes me think I will go HTC next time.. =O
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Evo 3D has a higher resolution.
960 x 540 vs 800 x 480.
Performance wise the Evo 3D pulls ahead in some tests while the Galaxy S pulls ahead in some, its mostly a toss up. The difference is nowhere near 1st gen snapdragon vs hummingbird.
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Oh okay, didn't know the GSII's resolution hadn't improved other than the Plus. I feel pretty stupid atm lol
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Spec wise the evo 3d wins hands down?? How??
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I want to know the same thing....higher res crappy display, a chip set that hasn't shown us anything in real world tests, the whole 3D gimmick deal, and will be locked down in some way or another. The sgs2 is completely unlocked and is all straightforward non-gimmicky no frills hardware.
I still doubt I'll own either one thanks to sprints new upgrade rules. If I had to choose one of these awesome phones it would likely be the sgs2, for raw power and simplicity. Oh and the S-amoled+ display, that has 50% more subpixels which is going to make resolution look way higher......read the review its all there.
GSII. The sAMOLED+ display is just too much to pass up. Going back to a lcd screen would be tough. For me at least... plus I love the whole ultra slim design. I am personally voting for a keyboardless sprint variant.
if the GSII comes with a KB. I just can't get rid of the KB>
If the GSII isn't altered to much by U.S carriers I'll have to go with Sammy but if Sprint plays around with the original design it's the Evo 3D.
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SGSII ALL the way. Its confirmed to be unlocked. Dont feel stupid Acer. I didn't mean it like that.
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acer1096xxx said:
Okay well maybe a tie.
GSII has a better resolution and thinness, but the evo 3D DOES have 3D, and I've seen how well that works xD.
Then again...the evo 3d has only 8 GB storage on the sd card. Dammit, I gotta word these things better. ._.
Otherwise, same similar 1.2GHz dual-core proccessor, 8 MP camera, etc
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I'll be grabbing myself an HTC Evo 3D whenever an upgrade becomes available. I'll just use my 16 GB sdcard on my current Epic when I make the switch. I'm also a HTC sense fan, I started out with it when I made my entrance into Android.
Wanted to start by saying, I love my Evo. Especially the last 5 months with figuring out how to put new roms. I was dead set on the Evo 3D, but that fact is, I don't care about 3D and downgrading the camera to 5meg from 8meg sucks. Plus, the possibility of a locked down boot loader, really has me thinking twice. What do you think?
Samsung has nice top of the line phones, but have little to no support after you buy. HTC is where its at, that's my 2cents
I want to add that just because the camera is going from 8mp to 5mp does not mean that it will be worse. I had an old Samsung Behold on T-Mobile with a 5mp camera which took much clearer, sharper and better pictures than my Evo. Now saying that, normally Samsung has better screens and camera's than HTC, but HTC makes better phones IMO and also has much better support when it comes to upgrades to the latest Android. Spec wise it looks like these phones will be very similar except the 3D part of the EVO 3D. Also, 3D can easily be turned off and will still have a beautiful screen in 2D mode. I personally would go with HTC over Samsung, but honestly that Galaxy S2 sounds like a sweet ass phone. This is all opinion and you are in an EVO forum so most everyone is going to be all HTC. You might also think about posting this thread in the Epic forum as well, but they will probably all be Samsung fanboys.
I was dead set on getting the EVO 3D until the annual upgrade got reduced to just $75. Now seeing the S2 and the Sensation, it's probably cheaper for me to jump ship for a new phone.
I may just end up keeping my Evo for awhile longer. I like having new tech toys to play with but the Evo is holding my interest way longer than I thought it would when I got the phone last summer.
I do agree with you about the support, but, don't be surprised if they start to change because of carrier pressure.
Evo 3D
EVO 3D is going to be the way to go. Samsung never has good development for their Galaxy phones.
Yeah, the phone is going to be hot. I just hope HTC keeps doing right by us.
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EVO 3D is going to be the way to go. Samsung never has good development for their Galaxy phones.
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I admit, the GS2 had me tempted, but I keep reminding myself what solid phone the Evo is. I also owned the Touch Pro, and that was great phone for its time as well.
I too debated with this decision but I decided to go ahead and preorder an EVO 3D. I have some concerns that the GS2 on Sprint will have a HW keyboard, something I am not interested in, but everything else about the phone I think is great, in fact I think the GS2 would be a good candidate for the next Nexus phone. The Super AMOLED+ screen on the GS2 will offer superior battery life to the EVO and even with the lower resolution will probably look a little better...
I agree with the arguments about development, but I think that if the EVO 3D has an encrypted bootloader and the GS2 releases in a bar form with only a locked bootloader, then there may be a shift in development towards the GS2.
My plan is this: Get the EVO 3D, if the bootloader is encrypted then I will return it and wait for a GS2 announcement or get a nexus S.
I'm waiting for another phone.
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I too debated with this decision but I decided to go ahead and preorder an EVO 3D. I have some concerns that the GS2 on Sprint will have a HW keyboard, something I am not interested in, but everything else about the phone I think is great, in fact I think the GS2 would be a good candidate for the next Nexus phone. The Super AMOLED+ screen on the GS2 will offer superior battery life to the EVO and even with the lower resolution will probably look a little better...
I agree with the arguments about development, but I think that if the EVO 3D has an encrypted bootloader and the GS2 releases in a bar form with only a locked bootloader, then there may be a shift in development towards the GS2.
My plan is this: Get the EVO 3D, if the bootloader is encrypted then I will return it and wait for a GS2 announcement or get a nexus S.
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I hear you. I have to make that decision. My plan is to get. If the bootloader is locked, i will sell it and get the GS2. I have become addicted to flashing, and i can't see myself with a phone i can't tweak to my desire at a whim.
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I'm waiting for another phone.
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Sprint, or is another carrier an option. Sprint had been light on handset choices recently. Hopefully that will change. I really liked the Sensation, but would never go to T-Mobile. I hope there are more choices later this year.
Dan Hesse mentioned 22 4G devices at CTIA. I can maybe come up with 8. Anybody know what he was referring to?
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Please don't ever ever ever make a decision on a phone based on the number of megapixels in a cell phone camera.
My iPod touch camera takes better pictures than my Evo. Megapixels mean ****.
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Please don't ever ever ever make a decision on a phone based on the number of megapixels in a cell phone camera.
My iPod touch camera takes better pictures than my Evo. Megapixels mean ****.
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My Evo takes great pics. And funny, i heard the camera on the iPod touch sucks. But i hear what you're saying.
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i think a lot of people out there think their cell phone camera sucks, but they also forget to wipe off the pocket lint and finger goo that accumulates on the lens.
The iPhone camera is better than the Evo and it's less megapixel. Tge shutter speed on the iphone us much faster than the Evo and it focuses faster. I've had amazing pictures come out with the iPhone. I'm pretty sure tge same can be said with the touch. I believe the lens on the i devices are better except for the iPad 2 camera sucking gnome ass.
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The iPhone camera is better than the Evo and it's less megapixel. Tge shutter speed on the iphone us much faster than the Evo and it focuses faster. I've had amazing pictures come out with the iPhone. I'm pretty sure tge same can be said with the touch. I believe the lens on the i devices are better except for the iPad 2 camera sucking gnome ass.
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Funny how you don't think a smartphone camera is important until you realize you leave your point and shoot at home all the time. Its a big deal.
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I was just thinking if or when we get a fully functional E3d rom and it runs good on our EVO's I don't see me being in a rush to grab the upgrade... for what 3d pics? Meh. I might just save my upgrade for what Q3/Q4 will have to offer, if anything.
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My Evo takes great pics. And funny, i heard the camera on the iPod touch sucks. But i hear what you're saying.
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My phone only seems to get good pics in sunlight.
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I was just thinking if or when we get a fully functional E3d rom and it runs good on our EVO's I don't see me being in a rush to grab the upgrade... for what 3d pics? Meh. I might just save my upgrade for what Q3/Q4 will have to offer, if anything.
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I was also considering that. That also makes sense, since i have been following the ports threads. These guys are amazing at what they have been able to do with the Evo. Thanks for that perspective.
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So I'm positive everyone see's this question all the time. But they always judge it on the stock phones. Well I'm looking to get one of these phones, but to ROOT them. Which one do you believe I should get and why? I'm also looking into battery life even though buying an extended battery isn't a problem. Also which rom do you think is best for your pick? Thanks in advance.
Will be posting in both sides to get more answers
Epic 4g
Froyo= SyndicateROM Frozen 1.2
Gingerbread= AnonymousROM i3
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Boobs
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your second PWNED
LOL ^ 4th
Btw, I'd choose Epic over Shift.
You don't need more answers lol, just the 1st post, wait! And 2nd... yeah your going to need the 2nd one also.
...5th!
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I would bet that the Epic would perform better and imo the keyboard is also better. Epic is easily rooted and has a nicer display. Easy pick.
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7th..
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The epic pretty much is an all around better phone
An argument could be made on the SW side, but that falls by the wayside if you are not staying stock
Mainly, the EVO Shift is simply missing to many top level hardware items, that make it a upper mid range phone rather than the top tier the Epic is
I was faced with the same question when I bought not long ago.
Screen size favors Epic (4.0" - 3.6" That's a significant difference in Real Estate)
Screen brightness favors Epic (Samsungs Super AMOLED easily tops anything HTC has IMO)
Keyboard favors Epic (the larger size of the phone spaces the keys better, Epic has 5 rows including dedicated number row)
Processor favors the Epic (1.0 Ghz Hummingbird - 800 Mhz Snapdragon)
I believe rated battery stock time is 5.50 hrs for Epic to 6.00 for Shift.
Epic has front facing camera (which I never use, but some people do I'm sure)
The list goes on, but you can google other features.
As far as Flashing ROMs, I am NOT really tech savvy, but after reading through these forums I was not only able to root the phone quickly, but flashing was simple and I have found the ROMs I've used to be stable and functional with very few bugs. Can't beat that.
Epic, all the way.
Epic. Who ever choosed shift needs a swift kick in the wallnuts.
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So I'm positive everyone see's this question all the time. But they always judge it on the stock phones. Well I'm looking to get one of these phones, but to ROOT them. Which one do you believe I should get and why? I'm also looking into battery life even though buying an extended battery isn't a problem. Also which rom do you think is best for your pick? Thanks in advance.
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Even though i love my epic i would go with the shift because it has locked gps in a few seconds and capable of overclocking to 2.0Ghz and 1.6Ghz stable.
Its fun to use but i like epic 4g because of its screen. and Samsung is Easy to manipulate and easy to use like rooting and all that stuff.
But now its easy to get the Shift rooted in all.
I just like the bigger screen and AMOLED is deal breaker. i went with the shift at 1st because Samsung pissed me off as well as thousands more, with a certain phone.
Thanks everybody for your answers .. I'm leaning towards the Epic now.
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Even though i love my epic i would go with the shift because it has locked gps in a few seconds and capable of overclocking to 2.0Ghz and 1.6Ghz stable.
Its fun to use but i like epic 4g because of its screen. and Samsung is Easy to manipulate and easy to use like rooting and all that stuff.
But now its easy to get the Shift rooted in all.
I just like the bigger screen and AMOLED is deal breaker. i went with the shift at 1st because Samsung pissed me off as well as thousands more, with a certain phone.
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Yeah .. I'm leaning more towards the Epic though just because of the screen and 5 row keyboard.. But the thing I heard is that the Epic phones screen black out all the time, and I'm not going to have insurance or be on Sprint (flashing) .. And the HTC build quality is superior to Samsung. So I'm stuck.. any more suggestions?
I figured I would post this here, even though I also placed it in the troll thread, as it was having the same discussion
I haven't heard of the Epic screens blacking out, but mine has held up beyond belief, even after facing harsh abuse.
IMO, it is a not a "power/speed" issue that makes the EVO Shift a lesser phone, but the overall lack of top end hardware features, and those CAN'T be modded in later
Here are several reviews with the conclusions, as well as links to the original reviews, and the Epic is not just a winner, but a CLEAR winner in every case.
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You don’t have to imagine how two Android smartphones would perform when pitted against one another, as the folks at WireFly have done the deed. Pitting HTC EVO Shift 4G against the Samsung Epic 4G, the latter wins out big time.
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So, it seems like the EVO Shift 4G did admirably well for some basic processes, but stumbled badly when it comes to complex 3G graphics. But then again, it has a lower running processor than the Epic 4G with only 800MHz — though that’s not the end all be all performance measurement.
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4G Phone Fight: Evo Shift Battles Epic 4G
Avatar for Brian Barrett Brian Barrett —4G Phone Fight: Evo Shift Battles Epic 4G Let's say you want a 4G phone, because 4 is one more G than your current phone has. If you're deciding between Sprint's finest—the HTC Evo Shift and the Samsung Epic 4G—you're gonna want to watch this.
Both phones are sliders, both are on the same network, and by outward appearances seem pretty much identical. But! The Epic 4G, it turns out, is packing way more horses under the hood. As it should, considering it costs almost twice as much as the Shift.
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The Winner
Unlike other previous battles such as the HTC Thunderbolt vs. Motorola Droid Bionic battle, Samsung Epic 4Gthe HTC EVO Shift 4G vs. Samsung Epic 4G battle seems to have a pretty clear cut winner. The Samsung Epic 4G, even though it came out first, has huge advantages when it comes to display, and features while the HTC EVO Shift 4G manages to win a slight edge in design and software. Overall the advantages of the Samsung Epic 4G are too big to ignore and it easily comes out on top in this battle of 4G keyboard slider smartphones on Sprint.
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heres the thing though Shift is running 2nd Gen Snap. And even @ 800Mhz it pulls double score than Epic @1Ghz both on froyo.
Then Shift on 2.3 just blows the sh*t outta the Epic.
Newer Technology is better.
Older Technology is Wiser.
But in the end its all down to personal preference.
Just mess with both phones see what you really like and want.
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heres the thing though Shift is running 2nd Gen Snap. And even @ 800Mhz it pulls double score than Epic @1Ghz both on froyo.
Then Shift on 2.3 just blows the sh*t outta the Epic.
Newer Technology is better.
Older Technology is Wiser.
But in the end its all down to personal preference.
Just mess with both phones see what you really like and want.
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But official GB is just around the corner for the Epic (and already available if rooted). So with that, its still weigted twords the Epic imo.
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shawayne21 said:
Thanks everybody for your answers .. I'm leaning towards the Epic now.
Yeah .. I'm leaning more towards the Epic though just because of the screen and 5 row keyboard.. But the thing I heard is that the Epic phones screen black out all the time, and I'm not going to have insurance or be on Sprint (flashing) .. And the HTC build quality is superior to Samsung. So I'm stuck.. any more suggestions?
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Never had my screen go black or anything at all for that matter, but that would be covered by manufactures warranty I think.
The screen is amazing.
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shawayne21 said:
Thanks everybody for your answers .. I'm leaning towards the Epic now.
Yeah .. I'm leaning more towards the Epic though just because of the screen and 5 row keyboard.. But the thing I heard is that the Epic phones screen black out all the time, and I'm not going to have insurance or be on Sprint (flashing) .. And the HTC build quality is superior to Samsung. So I'm stuck.. any more suggestions?
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What do you mean goes black out? like the power saving feature? you can set the timer on that...
As for build quality..who told you HTC phones have better build quality? that is a myth created because the samsung phones feel so light..the build quality is top notch, not to mention Gorilla Glass..
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heres the thing though Shift is running 2nd Gen Snap. And even @ 800Mhz it pulls double score than Epic @1Ghz both on froyo.
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What scores? don't tell me quadrant/linpack...
gTen said:
What do you mean goes black out? like the power saving feature? you can set the timer on that...
As for build quality..who told you HTC phones have better build quality? that is a myth created because the samsung phones feel so light..the build quality is top notch, not to mention Gorilla Glass..
What scores? don't tell me quadrant/linpack...
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SmartBench 2010 and other various benchmarks but Quadrant does pull higher but thats not point. the point is its newer technology 45nm instead of 65nm.